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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: The reason I do my surprise.

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Speaker 1: Waukee too is that might go on. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Is it happen a stroke?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Birdlisticless maam Kevin Smith, Quin Smith easiest mark in the world.

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Speaker 1: The You couldn't be around fucking turkeys, bro, because that's

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Speaker 1: all they do. I feel particularly laughed at the insulting them,

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Speaker 1: even though you didn't truly mean it. Okay, ah we

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Speaker 1: the past is the president and the president of the

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Speaker 1: future or the past.

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Speaker 2: No past, the past is the future, in the future

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Speaker 2: is the past passes. You can throw a president in

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Speaker 2: there if you want.

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Speaker 1: The future. In the future is past. But we're in

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Speaker 1: the present. But our present is their past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, our president is their future and this.

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Speaker 1: Is how we get to time. Drow are Our past

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Speaker 1: is their present. As they listened to the show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is all happened to us is the present.

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Speaker 1: So number one, just to let you know where we

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Speaker 1: are in time. The Dogma the Resurrection tour kicked off

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Speaker 1: last night in Los Angeles. We'll talk about that in

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Speaker 1: a minute, but Harley gave me a wax stick. Those

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Speaker 1: watching along at home at that Kevin Smith Club dot com.

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Speaker 1: Uh it looks like a little little deodorant. It's called dart.

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Speaker 1: The palmade stick and it's meant to keep my hair

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Speaker 1: from doing the ship because my kid cannot be bothered

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Speaker 1: to be like hat.

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Speaker 2: I just though I don't. Sometimes I don't want to

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Speaker 2: interrupt you and.

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Speaker 1: You're on a roll. I think what happens is you

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Speaker 1: become like fucking entranced by it. It looks like how

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Speaker 1: stupid it look?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: I wish I could just tell him, but I can't.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let him be stupid hair?

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Speaker 2: Well, my dad looks what don't be like that?

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Speaker 1: I'm sharing? Where can it be married? One day? I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: what's up? My dear hair looks stupid today? Christ?

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Speaker 2: What got me puff? Don't you invoke the Lord and.

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Speaker 1: You gotta puff like dogma?

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Speaker 2: He did? He loved it.

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Speaker 1: He left me a message where he was like, I

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Speaker 1: really liked biblical avengers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he kept saying. People like that's your

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Speaker 2: Marvel movie. That's right, you've never seen it. I've never

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Speaker 2: seen it.

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Speaker 1: So we have the fucking is my hair holding?

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Speaker 2: So far as the watch I was doing? Great?

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Speaker 1: Problem is it feels like there's wax on my head.

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Speaker 2: Ship you can't get it.

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Speaker 1: If you put a wick in there, I could burn

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Speaker 1: for hours as a votive. So we have the premiere

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Speaker 1: at the Grove. Back in the day when you called

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Speaker 1: movie Phone and mister movie Phone would read you the times.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you want to go to a movie,

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Speaker 1: he would say Pacific the Grove showtimes one pm, three

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Speaker 1: varied it. So we've been going to that theater for

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Speaker 1: a while. We had the tour kicked off there. That

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Speaker 1: shit like that. Even though it wasn't like a premiere.

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Speaker 1: It was just the first show. But since some people

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Speaker 1: let's put up the thing. So the kid went to

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Speaker 1: the first show. Now, the last time we had a

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Speaker 1: and again this wasn't a premiere, but last time we

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Speaker 1: had a Dogma premiere or the first time actually was it? No,

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Speaker 1: it was after Can. Yeah, we went to Can first.

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Speaker 1: Second time we showed the films at the New York

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Speaker 1: Film Festival. That's where like we got out of the

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Speaker 1: car with baby Harley. She was wearing angel wings and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and there were a thousand protesters, like just praying the rosary,

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Speaker 1: They were not happy about Dogma playing there. So with

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Speaker 1: Dogma returning to our lives, it's taken on something of

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Speaker 1: a personal turn for Jennifer because she's like that's how

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Speaker 2: She's very sent me.

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Speaker 1: Very cent, which is in truth, rarely is she sentimental.

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Speaker 1: It may be a thing that's changing with and I'll

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Speaker 1: say it in this room but never again age. But yes,

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Speaker 1: walks down you know memory. She doesn't like, you know,

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Speaker 1: high school. Like I mean, do I well in that

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Speaker 1: mean it makes sense. Part of you has to be

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Speaker 2: I I see, I've clocked a few, uh, and that

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Speaker 1: And you didn't have like a fun high school experience.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what her excuse was, because she seemed

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Speaker 1: to be like she loved high school yeah, and cheerleader

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Speaker 1: and shit like that. But you're you also won't have

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Speaker 1: a probably not even twenty years from now, you'd be like,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm rethinking, Archer, Mmm, won't happened if

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Speaker 1: anything with distance would become more bitter.

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Speaker 2: I've become more bitter by the day. I pass it

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Speaker 2: sometimes and I cry, Do you really Yeah? I surely

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Speaker 1: Do you really like cry like I've literally.

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Speaker 2: Passed it and started to cry.

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Speaker 1: With relief or in memory of like, oh.

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Speaker 2: That fucking place, in memory of oh this fucking place.

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it be more relief since you never have

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Speaker 1: to go back to that.

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Speaker 2: I have nightmares about school all the time. You serious,

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Speaker 2: constant nightmares?

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Speaker 1: How do they go?

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Speaker 2: Then? I'm still in school?

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Speaker 3: That's enough.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really sums it up.

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Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not being chased by an axe murder

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Speaker 1: what the fuck? No?

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Speaker 2: I thought this was over.

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Speaker 1: Such your idea of hell, like if you wound up,

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Speaker 1: if there is a hell and you wind up in

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Speaker 1: it and show it's just you going Archer every day? Yes, wow, yes,

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Speaker 1: at least you know how to do that though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could navigate, but you tell something.

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Speaker 1: If there's a hell, then you're there. You should be

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Speaker 1: have to go to school. No, and everyone else in

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Speaker 2: Like, why is what?

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Speaker 1: Can I go to Archer? Why is that a pressure?

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Speaker 1: She did not like it?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, fucking who this hell? Man?

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Speaker 1: How comes she ain't getting flayed? How comes she can

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Speaker 2: People are burning and I'm just at Archer and.

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Speaker 1: You're like, this is the worst life that's ever been

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Speaker 2: Oh god, that place.

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Speaker 1: So Harley and Austin. But let's focus on because she

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Speaker 1: her show at least half of it.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: Has never seen Dogma never. I was never like, watch

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Speaker 1: with any messed up I've never been like, you gotta

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Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: So it stands to reason that I was never like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Well, my thought I loved it. I really loved it.

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Speaker 2: There were some beautiful speeches in there. Yeah, beautiful language.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of my logs, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: something that doesn't happen as much these days in film. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure the actors might might agree, unless you're

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Speaker 1: First Cup seventy two minutes. They were like, it's not

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh so yeah. Watching it last night,

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, it's not like men. It's as slow,

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Speaker 1: or maybe it's just story. The way we consume stories

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Speaker 2: So many wonderful performances.

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Speaker 1: will make people go like, ah, I see, And once

440
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Speaker 1: we get past the clever concept, I just got to

441
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: make sure the movie holds all the way through as

442
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: a three act story.

443
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Speaker 2: And I think it's really interesting that you're coming at

444
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: it from a different perspective now, from a different place

445
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: in your life. I think people will also relate to

446
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: that because there are also people who are now in

447
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: your position, who are past the faith phase of their

448
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: life and are in a new spot. So I think

449
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Speaker 2: I think it will be really interesting issus sided.

450
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Speaker 1: The thing is that movie was hopeful, and the older

451
00:24:48,080 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: I get, you just gotta it's harder to manufacture. Yeah,

452
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: but you know what, that's literally the only thing I'm

453
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: good for, so I can't crap out on it and

454
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: not do it. Like sometimes I'm like, man, I wish

455
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: I was just done. But you know, until I'm done done,

456
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: until the world is absolutely until life is done with me,

457
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: the only reason I'm here is to give people that

458
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: that distraction that oh I feel seen, that momentary respite

459
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: from the you know, ever battling hopelessness and hopefulness that

460
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: living for more than thirty years on planet Earth does.

461
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: Too older I get the more I realized, we were

462
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: never meant to last this fucking long, and we're only

463
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: lasting longer. And shit, and if you last longer, you

464
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: have to continue working and you know, to pay for

465
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: bills and all that makes me. I wish I was like,

466
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: I wish Momily was fucking rich. Man. I wish I

467
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: was one of them trust fun babies and ship, I

468
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: wish you were a trust fun baby, because would borrow

469
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: money from you.

470
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: I wish Momily was rich too. It's all her fault, Momily.

471
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: Come on, she didn't work hardly. Come on, man, are.

472
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: You fucking kidding me? My mother did not My mother

473
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: created me absolutely, but sometimes when you're a parent, you

474
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Speaker 1: create things that you don't intend to create in your kid,

475
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: as we all know. And how she conducted her life

476
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: as like, well that's well, that's how you do it,

477
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: because that was the example I always had. And Momily's

478
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: life is about service constantly, just what do you need?

479
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: How can I help?

480
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: How can it sounds like someone else, I know, how can.

481
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: I, Oh, let me take care of that. Oh, okay,

482
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: we're doing We're.

483
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Speaker 2: Gonna Yeah, it sounds a little familiar.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah, from her, she cares a lot, and you know,

485
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 1: I care a lot too because of Momily.

486
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: And it's a really beautiful thing.

487
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: How it is just get you in trouble sometimes and

488
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: then sometimes you just wish, for your heart's sake, that

489
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: you didn't care so much because.

490
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: It's hard to care. It is. It's a lot easier

491
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: to live in ignorance or to not acknowledge what's going on,

492
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: but it's it's a beautiful thing to care. Yeah, that's

493
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: why we're vegan. Well, actually you were forced to go vegan.

494
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: That's why I'm vegan.

495
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Speaker 1: I mean now I'm absolutely like if somebody was like,

496
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: hey man, you could eat meat and animal products now

497
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: until the day you died, it won't affect your health.

498
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go back so proud because at the end

499
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: of the day, while I wasn't like an ethical vegan,

500
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: somebody was like, well, I just don't want to hurt

501
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Speaker 1: a thing, even far a wife enough from it. And

502
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Speaker 1: it's just like.

503
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Speaker 2: You don't need it.

504
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I could do without, now, you know, very

505
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: why is ass on the Planet's like put you're killing

506
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: and eating plants and they're living things, aren't they?

507
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

508
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will grapple with that somewhere down the road,

509
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: but in a world of like, you know, I can't

510
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: do no harm, but do as little harm as you can. Yeah,

511
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: I'll need a plant based product than.

512
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: Facts.

513
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not even like you know, if I

514
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: was given the fucking magic wand like you can eat

515
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: it all, I'd be like, I'm okay, Like I like

516
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: the foods that I actually eat.

517
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: So proud of you.

518
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had a lot to do with that.

519
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: But anyways, Yeah, Lance Moore said, is God as right,

520
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: absolutely stands and ship so cute, absolutely perfect casting. Yeah,

521
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: but I do really think I loved so many things

522
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: about the movie, and everything was very impressive the story

523
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: or that the performances, the directing. But I do really

524
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: think I was. I was very blown away by the writing.

525
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: In in the I mean.

526
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Speaker 2: You've seen the other movies I made, Yes, So.

527
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Speaker 1: You're saying this is more well written than the other movies, Well,

528
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Speaker 1: we're d more dnse more. I guess it's the creative

529
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: It goes all over place. Most of the other stuff

530
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Speaker 1: I do is like a snapshot of real life. This

531
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: was about this is the Wizard of Oz, where you know,

532
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: Dorothy goes on a fucking journey and ship like that,

533
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: and in place of fantasy fantasy characters, we use biblical

534
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: giants and stuff. Uh so, yeah, I mean definitely like

535
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Speaker 1: the most ambitious thing I ever wrote, would that be right?

536
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Clerk's marsac Amy nearly as ambitious as talk, I would say, so, yeah.

537
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: Jane Sonabob strike Back has ambition to it as well.

538
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: It's big in a different way altogether, but its ideas

539
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: aren't big. Cheersey Girl, no clerks to know.

540
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Tusk was pretty ambitious, but yeah, facts, there's facts.

541
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Speaker 1: These are These are ambitious movies as well, just not

542
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: in the same way Dogma was, like, you know, stuffing

543
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: one hundred pounds of shit into a fucking ten pounds bag. Like,

544
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: we could have used more money to tell that story,

545
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: but we did it for ten millions. A ten million

546
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: dollar movie.

547
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: Really, that movie.

548
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: Costs less than Jane Zambob Reboot. No, the exact same

549
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 1: as Jane Son Bob Reboot.

550
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

551
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, half of Jane Sam Bob strike Back. Oh we

552
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: got more money. I was telling you I was of

553
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: my powers after Dogma.

554
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: Damn.

555
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're giving me like twenty million dollars and shit.

556
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: I think. Uh. The writing also stands out when being.

557
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: Delivered by standout performers.

558
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: Mister Allan Rick, I mean, yes, just absolutely gorgeous.

559
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: Talk about somebody who he didn't execute. He fucking elevated

560
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: every syllable of this shit.

561
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was really good. That was really

562
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: really good. Is this what in your app inside?

563
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Kids? Well, let's quench that thirst little holy water, and

564
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: that holy water is Dogma the Resurrection Man. You can

565
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: go see it on tour. I'm still on tour right now,

566
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: even though I'm having this conversation with you, because we

567
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: recorded this in the past, and the past is the future,

568
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: in the future is the past, and Dogma hits theaters

569
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: everywhere June fifth. I'm trying to think of no, because

570
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: I finished the tour, so we'll be back to doing

571
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: shows week of by the time the movie goes wide. Yes,

572
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: but for now, you can see it on the road

573
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: with me. Kids. Come to the Resurrection store tickets at

574
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: dogminmovie dot com. I want you to pull three questions

575
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Speaker 1: from your list. Okay, take us out of there. I

576
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: have a hard time talking about the things I do

577
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: for a long period of time unless I'm being paid

578
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: to do it in a Q and A format. It's

579
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: somebody you know once said that it sounds bragging shit,

580
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: So I.

581
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: Was like, I you know, I don't. I mean, it

582
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: was a it was a big moment. Last night it

583
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: was It's a really big moment, and I'm very excited

584
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: for you. He's stweeny exciting.

585
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

586
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: It's a really big deal and it felt very special

587
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: to be able to see it in his theater.

588
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: Jay last night was like, you know, I've never seen

589
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: this in a theater really, And I was like, and

590
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: I thought back to the times, and it was like

591
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Speaker 1: that tracks tracks.

592
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: But he still didn't see it because he left.

593
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: He did he has got you know, not one, but

594
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: two kids, so Jordan should have been there. She worked

595
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: like crazy to make all this happen and shit, but

596
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: somebody had to watch the kids. She was saying this morning,

597
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: and she, you know, she was like, maybe I should

598
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: have gotten a babysitter. I was like, yeah, yeah, but

599
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: it was Easter Sunday. We inconveniently kicked off our tour there,

600
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: so tough to get a babysitter on Easter Sunday.

601
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: That's true. There's always the Burbank show, yes.

602
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: And also jam I go to like San Francisco as well.

603
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Oh Nice, which is on sale and selling very well

604
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Speaker 1: that I'll sell out very soon as well.

605
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Speaker 2: I was laughing out loud at Jay so many times.

606
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: He's fucking brilliant in that movie. I mean, I told

607
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: the crowd last night. But like when we showed the

608
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: movie at the New York Film Festival at Alice Tully Hall,

609
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: Jay was there for you know, the red carpet ship,

610
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: and then he got hammered and fucked off and shit,

611
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: never came back for the movie and didn't get back

612
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: for the Q and A. So we're standing sitting up

613
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: on the Alice Tully stage. You know, behind this long

614
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 1: table and it's the entire cast, like Rickman's there, Mat

615
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Speaker 1: bat Men and Matt Ben and Matt Rock, Howard Schure,

616
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: who did the score, was there, Me Mos, Salma, Linda,

617
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: although I don't know if Linda state human. She was

618
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: there for the premiere, but everybody basically up there and

619
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: somebody asks a question and Matt goes, look before we

620
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: go anywhere. I just want to acknowledge that, like Jason

621
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: Muse stole that entire fucking movie from some of the

622
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: most famous people in the world sitting up here right now,

623
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: and you know, everyone applauded and shit. But he wasn't

624
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: there to hear it, but he he was. Matt called

625
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: it man, that guy. He fucking stole that movie.

626
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: He really, he really did.

627
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: Firing on all cylinders, not not like and here it's

628
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: not like. And he never did it again. He always does.

629
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Speaker 1: But prior to that too, you know, clerks were all

630
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: rank amateurs and stuff. Mal rats he's still pretty green

631
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: chasing Amy. He has one scene and I've got most

632
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: of the heavy lifting with the monologue. That's the memorable

633
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: part of that sequence. So Ogma was like ladies and gentlemen.

634
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: Jason mus it was his time to shine and shine.

635
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: He did as the kids say, he ate he ate.

636
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: Floor equals what eight?

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00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: All right, what do you got? What do they want

638
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Speaker 1: to know?

639
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: And then I got all right, all al right, here's.

640
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: A here I cannot see anymore.

641
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 2: I'm like, looking, you need glasses so bad.

642
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: I used to wear them fucking willingly, and now I'm like,

643
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: you really need glasses.

644
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: And he's looking through his phone camera to look at

645
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: something to enlarge it because he did.

646
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: Really, I'm doing the old man'st.

647
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: He's being such an old man.

648
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: Used to have a little magnifiers read the paper.

649
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Speaker 2: Do you need a monocle?

650
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: Fucking monocle?

651
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: If you had a monocle to your look the uh?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean I could, but I

653
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Speaker 1: can kind of see that. I would probably bust a

654
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: nerve trying to hold it in place all the time,

655
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: because you gotta do that, and then I would have

656
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Speaker 1: to like never be able to gain weight, because otherwise

657
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: people be like fucking peg. One of my favorite moments

658
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: in cop Out is Bruce and Tracy around the beach

659
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: and they're fucking staking out of house, and as they're

660
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: talking about it, he starts talking about Tracy's character. Paul

661
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: starts talking about the neighbor, his neighbor, Henry, whose wife

662
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: is always like talking to and shit like that, and he's,

663
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: you know, he fantasizes about like while fucking he's at work,

664
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: they're fucking getting it on or whatever the fuck, and we, uh,

665
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: there's a song playing under it which is like ridhythm

666
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: is it danced and like Henry and slow mo that

667
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: make an eye contact like winking and shit like that.

668
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: And we cut back to like Bruce and Tracy on

669
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: the beach, and you know, the music cuts all together,

670
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: and Bruce says something to him and he goes, he's

671
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: really that bad, and he goes Chasey goes fucking fucking

672
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: Monica wearing motherfucker, And then we cut back to him

673
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: to Henry, the neighbor, and he turns into camera and

674
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: he had a monocle. I had a long, like fucking

675
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: cigarette holder with a cigarette in it. Show like that.

676
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: It was like goofy as fuck, but it was inspired

677
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: by fucking Monica wearing motherfucker. That rocks Warner Brothers. The

678
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: head of Warner Brothers was a guy that now heads Disney.

679
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: Bob Iger, No, my bad, who was it?

680
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: It's like, I feel like Bob Auger's been busy with

681
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: Disney for a minute.

682
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: Alan Horne, Okay, he may not run Disney at this point,

683
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: but he then went to Disney later on. I believe

684
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: Alan Horn ran Warner Brothers. He had this, you know,

685
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: crisis of conscience where he's like, we're never promoting smoking

686
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: in movies again, so there won't you won't see anyone

687
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: smoking in a Warner Brothers movie unless they're a villain

688
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: or something like that. Even then, they're not gonna be

689
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: smoking there, maybe have a cigarette in their mouth. So

690
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: our shot, you know, Henry turning with the monocle and

691
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: the long cigarette holder and the lit cigarette. It wasn't

692
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: even lit, just in there. They flagged that and they're like,

693
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: you gotta pull that out, Like we didn't shoot another

694
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: take and cigarettes isn't even lit. He's not smoking, Like

695
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, no tolerance policy. So the first thing

696
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: we did was cgi out the cigarette. So he just

697
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: had the cigarette holder, the long cigarette holder in his mouth,

698
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: which still kind of worked. And then Warner Brothers is like,

699
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: I can't even have that, but he's not smoking. There's

700
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: it's like having a strong on your mout. Sorry, so

701
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: it's removed. So when you watch the movie, he turns

702
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: he has a monocle and that's it. But really, yeah,

703
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: he's got that fucking uh Henry Cavill Superman mouth from

704
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: those reshoots and ship. But I love fucking Monica wearing mother.

705
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: Oh you could be a monocle wearing motherfucker.

706
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: You know I won't. I won't discount it. All right, Cool,

707
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I've worn many looks over

708
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: my many eras. Yeah, I won't rule out Monica.

709
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wondn't rule it out quite yet.

710
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know then it feels like if you're rocking

711
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: a Monoica, you gotta be like, right.

712
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: You just gotta be the penguin.

713
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: All right, ask a question? All right, this is always

714
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: the hairs doing has my hair?

715
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: It's going great.

716
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Hasn't moved her, hasn't.

717
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: Moved, She's staying in place.

718
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm doing it a what is it

719
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: called R and co? R and Co dart all right.

720
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: It's a special gift from me to you for your tour.

721
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll take it with me and I'll thank

722
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: you every time I use it.

723
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: Thank you, this is a this is a good one.

724
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: You're a good kid, you know what.

725
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: Thank you. You're a good dad. You're a great dad.

726
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how to take a compliment, so it

727
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: always let's just let's just keep it on you. You're

728
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: a good kid, Okay.

729
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: I'll take it.

730
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: Great person, good kid. You get your head on straight.

731
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: I try, I try to keep it straight.

732
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: You do your admirable I you know, I it sounds

733
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: goofy to say, but I look up to you. I

734
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: would like to manage my life the way you manage

735
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: your life. You know, if somebody was like, you should

736
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: take a page out of her book, I'd be like,

737
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: I should, Like that's good.

738
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: It's so nice.

739
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: True, I'm happy with like you know, I'm happy for

740
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: you because it's like, oh I should, you know, dealing

741
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: with ship like everybody else. But at the same time,

742
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: you you can handle it, put in its place and

743
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: still do the things that make you happy. Were the

744
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: things you need to do, Like you're you're doing it well,

745
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: You're doing great. You don't have to dive into the question.

746
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: If I could, if I could make an impact, a

747
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: positive impact on people's lives, even a quarter of the

748
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: impact that you've had on people's lives, I would die happy.

749
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: It's nice. I'll be honest with you. Eric Crosco sent

750
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: me a thing the other day and you saw and

751
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: read it where the guy was like, Clerks three saved

752
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: my life and years hours Like I saw that movie

753
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: and Dante heart attack and stuff. Just last week I

754
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: was feeling a similar way. And then I was like,

755
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: well they went into the hospital in the movie, I

756
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: might as walked, and sure enough you had a heart attack.

757
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: And Eric Crosco is just like, bro, say what you

758
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: will about your work. He's gone. But like one person

759
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: that we know of is alive today because you made

760
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: a movie. And I was like, I met a dude

761
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: on Runyon who told me there are five people I

762
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: know of who are alive today because of because of

763
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: you talking about that heart attack, Like keep doing it.

764
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: The dude told me on the fucking when I was

765
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: walking the dogs on running and shit, He's like, they

766
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: don't always remember your name is going Sometimes you know

767
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: Kevin smith is he was having a heart attack, and

768
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: the way he described it feels like the way I

769
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: feel now. He goes. Sometimes they call you sign the Bob.

770
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're like, you know that guy, and sometimes they

771
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: call you Kevin James. He's going, But it is always

772
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: you and you being out there in the world and

773
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: having talked spoken about it that brought them in. And

774
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: in each instance that I was involved in, the guy

775
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: said because he's an er nurse. He was like, that

776
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: was the difference maker. If they hadn't seen you talk

777
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: about it, they would not have come in. He's going,

778
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: So keep doing it. You're saving lives, And that like

779
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: meant the world to me, because you know, sometimes you

780
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: read fucking bad reviews, you know, fu stupid. What am

781
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: I still doing this? And then like when I watched

782
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: Dogma last night, I'm like, God, it was so easy,

783
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: and I was it was so easy to be good

784
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: back then, Like I like, maybe I should just stop

785
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: and let people remember all the old stuff and not

786
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: give him new stuff to like hate on and shit

787
00:42:52,560 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: like that. But you know that's silly, yeah, yeah, but

788
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: those are those are the thoughts, right, Like it can't

789
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: help them, like they're not mine. They are just thoughts

790
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: that fucking hit me, shower shower me constantly, and I

791
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: can't turn him off. And sometimes the thoughts are cool

792
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: and get me places and sometimes the thoughts are fucking

793
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: maple syrup and just drag me, keep me exactly where

794
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: I am. But wait, what was the point of me saying,

795
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: like talk to last night.

796
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: Is that you've saved many lives?

797
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I have to continue because like even in the

798
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: goofiest ways, like aside from like this is how I

799
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: are in my living, like I know for a fact

800
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: that the ship I do has fucking saved lives.

801
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: A man last night told his beautiful and heartbreaking story

802
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: during the Q and A that yeah, that was such

803
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: a special moment that he almost took his life and

804
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: he didn't because of you.

805
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a dude. During the Q and I said that,

806
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: he was like, I wrote you a letter, but I

807
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: just want to tell you, and he started break it down.

808
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: I was like, hold on, I'll make it more awkward.

809
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: And I went right up to him, held his hand

810
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: and hit and he got reels raincoats man and talked

811
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: about like not you know, almost doing it, and then

812
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: I didn't do it because you're the voice in the

813
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: back of my head. And he's like it a held

814
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: on like shit like that. It's like it doesn't matter

815
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: if I get tired. If it doesn't matter if I

816
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: get like beat up every time I get up to bat,

817
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: because I'm not that Kevin Smith anymore. Like those movies

818
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: that people would hold that I've made recently that people

819
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: would hold up against Dogmen and be like, he's not

820
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: the same anymore. He's not doing the same quality work.

821
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: Are the exact same movies that have saved lives. Absolutely,

822
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: So it's like, as much as I'm open to criticism,

823
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I'm sorry it failed for you as

824
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: a story, but I know for a fact this shit

825
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: worked like way better than I was intending it to,

826
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: and it did something better than fucking tell a story

827
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: in some cases.

828
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: Fuck a hater. You're saving lives.

829
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then you can't think like that too much

830
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: because you get like, like, all right, calm down, you're

831
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: making fucking Jane silly bobbery boot and shit like that.

832
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: But that's true. That brings the positivity and joy to

833
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: people's lives that make the difference, And that's that's the

834
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: most impactful thing you can do, is bring joy to

835
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: people's lives. And that's what you do all the time.

836
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: And I want you to also take care of yourself

837
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: and if you get tired, you got to give yourself

838
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: a break sometimes and make sure you're taking care of

839
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: yourself and eating every day and everything.

840
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: The audience can't hear me nodding, but if they were

841
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: watching on that Kevin Smith Club, they would watch me nodding.

842
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: And just so everyone knows, I try my best to

843
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: take care of this man. But him's kind of him

844
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: a little difficult sometimes.

845
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: Like it's not like I'm like, give me the pork.

846
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: He's eating himself to death, you know.

847
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: I sometimes I just you, you're the hardest working person

848
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: I know, which so track like, no, it really does,

849
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: though it really is.

850
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: It's because it doesn't feel like work that I never feel, yeah,

851
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: like it is work. I know it is. It's time consuming,

852
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: and I know it pays bills, so it must be work.

853
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm always like, you know,

854
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: my father had a real job, you know, fucking Rohelio

855
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: who fixed our house as a real job. Pop had

856
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: a real fucking job, you know what I'm saying, Like

857
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: when he was a cop and ship. You know, I

858
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: just I have a like I'm just I'm very fucking blessed, unfortunate,

859
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: and I just want to like pass that along because

860
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: my Catholic guilt doesn't allow me to enjoy it that much,

861
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, why do you have this and

862
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: why others do not? And you should be thankful for this,

863
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: and you should share it as much as you possibly can.

864
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: I think gratitude and sharing is for sure important and

865
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: absolutely the way I always be grateful. But you also

866
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: got to give yourself some grace. Sometimes you gotta take grace.

867
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: You got to give yourself some momiy.

868
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got momily somewhere. It's just like I hear that.

869
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Kid's right.

870
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: You gotta listen to Harley her Boyfriend's in eight Tide

871
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: commercials this.

872
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: Month from one to two to eight.

873
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh my god.

874
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: He is the face of time.

875
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: He's high time right now, that's what it is.

876
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

877
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: All right, what do we got Let's take a question,

878
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: get out of here.

879
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: All right, this is a good one. Okay, just comes

880
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: from a reader named so true. I always forget that

881
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: Mermaid x ex.

882
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Spirit Mermaid x ex Spirit. Here we go.

883
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: Do y'all have anxiety? It's so you know, I thought

884
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: we'd just continue with the but I mean, I think

885
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 2: I just answered this question, but it also.

886
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Clearly I have anxiety.

887
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, but not.

888
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: The garden variety kind, which is not me dismissing anybody

889
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: else's anxiety, but mine is very Kevin Smith's specific, artist specific,

890
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: relevancy specific.

891
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: The rest of the question is, if so, how do

892
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: you deal? Because like, dealing is hard man.

893
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: Dealing is fucking hard man. Well, when I was in

894
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: the Lonely Ben, they taught me to stay out of

895
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: the past and stay out of the future and live

896
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: in the present, which I try to do as much

897
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 1: as possible. However, a lot of my job, as you've seen,

898
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: like look at last night, my present is all about

899
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: my past and the future.

900
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: Like we're in Dogma game that is pretty complicated, actually.

901
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And most of the stuff I do is similar

902
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: to that because it's like, hey, we're making another one

903
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: and it's predicated on the past because it's a James

904
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: Aubab movie and we've made those before and stuff like that.

905
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: So it's tough to do the thing I was instructed

906
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: to do, the thing I learned to do, because my

907
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: job also requires me to think about what is next

908
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: at all times, because when you're done with this thing,

909
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't have a tradition. I don't have a career.

910
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: A career or even a job is something that is

911
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: there for you, unless you work for the government right now,

912
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: is there for you five days a week and is

913
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: dependable and you could quit it or you can be

914
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: promoted and stuff like that. But my job is me

915
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: and I'm self employed. And even if I make a

916
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: movie that ends, so it's not like, all right, we'll

917
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: see you guys next month.

918
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: There is a lot of uncertainty constantly.

919
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: So I you know, how does one deal with the

920
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: anxiety They taught us to breathe? Yeah, like, which I

921
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: get last night, Like at the premiere, I felt I

922
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: kind of faints at a moment. And at one point Alessandra,

923
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: who was the one that saved the movie, right, she goes,

924
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: you've got to breathe, Kevin, and I was like, oh

925
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: my god. She's one of those people too. She's very like,

926
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, like she took a middle name of Gaya

927
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: because she's like the earth, so you know, she's real,

928
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: like she feels she's empathic and mona. But she sounded

929
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: like one of the people that I was like that

930
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: would have been taking care of me when I was

931
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: in see her too soon, because she was like, you

932
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: just need to breathe. Breathe then, and breathe that, and

933
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: I forgot. I mean that's honestly, like, sometimes you just

934
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: get so preoccupied, so busy, you just forget to fucking

935
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: breathe and that in post people like, that'sn't possible, because

936
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's a automatic, like you don't.

937
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: The focusing on your breath brings you back.

938
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Into you to where you are. And usually the past

939
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: and the future fraught with either regret or fucking anxiety,

940
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: whereas the present. I'm not saying you can't be anxious

941
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: in the present. That's where anxiety begins, is in the present,

942
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: and we let it take us into the future. A

943
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: future doesn't even exist. But staying in the present is tough,

944
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: particularly at this moment in time. Yeah, so, since the

945
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: president is about the pat, pat, the president is the past,

946
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: and the past is also my future for the next month.

947
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: It's getting a little complicated for you.

948
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: And again, but no complaints, because it's like, what a

949
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 1: wonderful gift to be able to take dog mout again.

950
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: You know, I've been separated from her for so long

951
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: and stuff.

952
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: You should take time to reflect during this experience. Agreed

953
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: a little journal would be nice. Maybe having a journal

954
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: would be really nice.

955
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe when I was in the fucking booby Hatch,

956
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: I was writing, like in a journal.

957
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something.

958
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: Supposed to doing this.

959
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: Really lovely about writing in a journal. Yeah, I think

960
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: it's it's important to take this time to reflect because

961
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: it is. It is pretty. It's pretty meta, taking something

962
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: from the past bringing into the future. It's trying to

963
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: stay in the present. It's a lot going on.

964
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: There are a lot of things.

965
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on for you. Yeah, it makes

966
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: you think about the past. What makes you also think

967
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: about your future, But meanwhile you're in the present.

968
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: It's a little mind they're compounding it and making it

969
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: worse by saying it over and over again. I'm like,

970
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: wait a second, she's right.

971
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: And just in case you haven't heard me one more time,

972
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: you are fucked. I just think the most important thing

973
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 2: for you during this next month, it's one to take

974
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: care of yourself. The hair is holding. Take care of yourself.

975
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: Focus on taking care of yourself so you could take

976
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: care of others. Yes, do a little dance here and there.

977
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: That's important.

978
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: Never stop dancing. Never stop dance and keep the dance going,

979
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: and take time to reflects what a special experience it is.

980
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: You're right now. It's clear why I had you for

981
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: this moment.

982
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: You're welcome.

983
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: You saved me.

984
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: I do what I can.

985
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: Your job here is finished. You may I'll go about

986
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: the rest of your life doing whatever you like.

987
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: Goodbye.

988
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to Harley, she was finished. I was fixed.

989
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: Sure she's fixing someone else. Path, don't fucking fix me.

990
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: When I met Puff that I was drawn to him

991
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: because he did need fixing?

992
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: Is that right?

993
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? Really he was in a really, really dark place.

994
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: Do you know that? When I met Puff?

995
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: Did you just hear yourself saying that loud? I realized,

996
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: I call the man that I'm going to marry.

997
00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: Puff, I called him these days, I call him monkey

998
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: monkey monkey, So Puff monkey monkey, Puff.

999
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: Hey, Puff Monkey, come over here monkey.

1000
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1001
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: So when you met him, you want like I can

1002
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: fix pet.

1003
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: I just felt like something was I've.

1004
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: Got the key to this man a monkey.

1005
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: I felt an overwhelming sense of this person needs help,

1006
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 2: and where do you get that's to say. I remember

1007
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: texting him and asking if I could come to his

1008
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: hotel room. And I don't even know this man. I

1009
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: don't know this man at all, and I'm asking if

1010
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: I could come to his room because I wanted to

1011
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: tell him that I consensed that you're carrying a lot

1012
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: of pain and I just want to want to let

1013
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: you know. I know you don't know me, but I'm

1014
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: here if you want to talk. And then later on

1015
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: found out his best friend passed away, his grandpa passed away.

1016
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: He was dealing with all this grief and he was

1017
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: stuffing it down and putting different substances on top of

1018
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: it to forget about it. And I would like to

1019
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: say I helped him come out of it.

1020
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: How can I?

1021
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, helped him, helped him.

1022
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: He's like, I want to marry this one. She's a keeper. Fuck.

1023
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: She dragged me out of a hole. If I ever

1024
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: fallen in another hole, she get me out of it.

1025
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: I just helped him process his grief because he was not.

1026
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: He was trying to ignore it rather than process and

1027
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: deal with it and feel all the things that it

1028
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: came with.

1029
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but one is easier. It's so, And you can't

1030
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: blame somebody for avoidance.

1031
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: Lord knows it's easier.

1032
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, avoidance is just but it will get to you.

1033
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: Oh, I know it will get to you.

1034
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: True. Can you find a less egregious question?

1035
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? What about? What about? Do you two actually enjoy

1036
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: working with each other? Three? Two one? O?

1037
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: God, I enjoy working with the kid. I put her

1038
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: in everything for that reason. I think she's good. Like,

1039
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: of course I think she's good. She reads my dialogue

1040
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, that's that. That sounds great. That

1041
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: sounds better than the way I heard it in my head.

1042
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: And if in terms of this, like this doesn't even

1043
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: feel like work therapy, if anything.

1044
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: Just hanging out, hanging out, man.

1045
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I enjoy working with the kid very very much.

1046
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: It's a very special thing that we get to. We're

1047
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: able to work with you each other.

1048
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: Truth. I mean, yeah, there, you know lucky? Are we crazy?

1049
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: Fucking lucky? Lucky? Blessed one might say, absolutely blessed as

1050
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: blessed as the Biblical avengers aka Dogma The Resurrection Tour

1051
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: in theaters tune fifth. But I'm on tour with it

1052
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: right now. Come see me.

1053
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: I think comes out the door will be over.

1054
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think, well, is this the fifth week?

1055
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1056
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: So if this is like, but it's like it goes

1057
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: on May thirtieth, Like there's the santiscoing purpose.

1058
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, dog movie dot Com, Dog.

1059
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: Movie dot Com. If you want to still see me

1060
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: with the movie on tour, but June fifth, you can

1061
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: just go down to your local movie theater and just

1062
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: see it.

1063
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1064
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: It can be everywhere, like fucking like growing like a weed.

1065
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: A beautiful, beautiful weed that's going.

1066
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: To bloom and die within the span of two weeks.

1067
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: Oh lord, like most movies.

1068
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: All right, well, yes, let's be more optimistic.

1069
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: You want optimism, Come see dog Ma Kids, party like

1070
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: it's nineteen ninety nine.

1071
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: Prepare thyself for the second coming dog Ma coming.

1072
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: To movie theaters June fit. See it on Door with

1073
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: Kevin Smith Live Kids. There's your beardless stickless me. Thank

1074
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 1: you for your patients. While I've been off doing the

1075
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: tour and whatnot, it occurred to me that you could

1076
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: have probably done some shows with Puff.

1077
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: People would be like, wait, what the fuck.

1078
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: She's like, what there if Puff is the host? They're like,

1079
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: which one's beardless and which one's stickless?

1080
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: So true, it's too confusing.

1081
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for your patience. The next episode will be

1082
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: back to somewhat real time.

1083
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the president is the present.

1084
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: We will be able to talk about everything that's happened

1085
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: over the course of the last month that we seemingly

1086
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: refused to address in the show, Like something massive could

1087
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: have happened. Man, Yeah, fucking aliens could have landed and shit,

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Speaker 1: and everyone's like, do you hear the show? This week?

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Speaker 1: They still like talking about Milt need Goddamn, he's going

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Speaker 1: through a thing.

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Speaker 2: She can fucking heal them.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck they're not talking about the aliens?

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Speaker 2: A fucking vapories half of Pittsburgh. Oh fuck, why Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 1: They hate Ketchup?

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Speaker 2: They hate Ketchup?

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Speaker 1: Why the aliens? Oh of course it's like the aliens

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Speaker 1: and fucking signs how they couldn't handle water and ship

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Speaker 1: like that? These ones hate Ketchup. And so the first

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Speaker 1: strike if you're gonna take over the fucking planet is

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Speaker 1: you eliminate the Ketchup centers. And we all know Hines

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Speaker 1: is in Pittsburgh. Wow. Yeah, so true. Maybe I can

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Speaker 1: be as creative as I once was, But Dogma, that's

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Speaker 1: a movie right there.

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Speaker 2: I think I think you're set.

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Speaker 1: If I could just put a moral skeleton on it

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Speaker 1: talk about Catholicism or something like that.

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Speaker 2: You'll get there.

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Speaker 1: We'll try. Uh, kids, there's your beardless stickless meat for

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Speaker 1: this week. Don't you wish you had a kid so

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Speaker 1: you could sit around. I saw somebody at a where

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Speaker 1: it was I. I was someplace recently and I was

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Speaker 1: in front of people. It was small and oh the

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Speaker 1: rocky and bunkle thing. The other night, somebody as I

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Speaker 1: was leaving was like they introduced themselves and they were

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Speaker 1: there with their kids and blah blah blah chur chad

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Speaker 1: and they fucking referenced the show where they were just like,

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Speaker 1: that's why we love fearless sickless meeting. Man. It reminds

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Speaker 1: of our relationship. I was like, you listen to the

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Speaker 1: put it up in your stories? Yes you want shirt? Uh,

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Speaker 1: there it is.

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Speaker 2: Because there's your beardless dickless me for this week. I'm

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Speaker 2: Kevin Smith and I'm Harley Quinn Smith.

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