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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, happy Monday. We hope you love Monday's.

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<v Speaker 2>Or just Monday, depending on how you feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have to be happy. Oh I see, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought could just be Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, all right, Well either way it's better because

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<v Speaker 1>now you're listening to the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I'm with you on that. Chris, I'm Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Jeff. We're the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Today it was a rough opener, buddy. They ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get any better than net.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, people, we are diving into Luke fifteen, which

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<v Speaker 1>is continuing our series What If Jesus Had a Podcast? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes with famous sayings and today's famous saying

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<v Speaker 1>is your brother This brother of yours was dead and

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<v Speaker 1>is alive again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is one of my favorite stories. It is

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<v Speaker 2>you and I just preached on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ad Heritage to the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna be great. Well. Hey, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the only segment that has an official theme song,

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<v Speaker 2>yes right, which is mail Bags there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mail bags, we actually have a letter in from

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah L.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Sarah L.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah L says, my husband Lie love listening to you

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<v Speaker 1>to every morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's nice, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah, And she says, what's your quote? I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>this is my job unquote moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can't believe this is my job. Moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't believe this is my job. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I've ever thought that in ministry. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I know the night, the very night.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It was when I first went into youth ministry, and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe that I was getting paid to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with teenagers because when I went in the youth ministry,

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<v Speaker 1>I was only twenty one, and so I'm only a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years removed from being a teenager, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I had an all night video game night. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>back then it was PlayStation one. That's how old that was, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And remember Sega Genesis with Sonic the Hedgehot. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I called it an all night Segathon, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>had basically we locked ourselves in from like eleven o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>at night till six in the morning. It was an

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<v Speaker 1>all nighter, and we had other things also, But one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that we had was like eighteen or

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen video game systems that were all over the church.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow and anyway, And so here I am just like

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<v Speaker 1>staying up all night. The music's going. There's like a

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<v Speaker 1>Strobe wally ball in one room, you know. I'm playing

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel Superheroes on the PS one, you know, on this

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<v Speaker 1>massive projector on the size of a wall that's like

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<v Speaker 1>as huge as you know, it's the whole church auditorium.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually remember thinking to myself, I'm actually getting

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<v Speaker 1>paid right now, Like I'm getting paid to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>to just to have fun all night.

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<v Speaker 2>At least you're getting paid right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Slice of Bolognian old record player. It's my bonus. But

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<v Speaker 1>still yeah, but I'm still getting paid. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>thinking and I said out loud, I said to my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I can't believe this is my job.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Yeah, I have a similar one, except it's

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<v Speaker 2>slightly different. So I worked at a church and I

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<v Speaker 2>was the everything else pastor were you ever the everything

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Wish?

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<v Speaker 2>So this one week felt like it was never going

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<v Speaker 2>to end, and the highs were so high and the

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<v Speaker 2>lows were so low. So I was the worship pastor

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<v Speaker 2>at the church and my wife was also in the

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<v Speaker 2>music department, and after service the pastor had wanted me

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<v Speaker 2>to include both modern worship and some old hymns and

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<v Speaker 2>gospel songs. You want to be kind of those, and

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't ever make anybody happy. Nobody's happy, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lady come up and tell me off

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<v Speaker 2>that I put in the thing for her. She was

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else would like, they had a different style. And

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<v Speaker 2>had somebody come up and tell me I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a coward because I didn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>guts to just go ahead and make the full change, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I had both sides of the aisle were mad

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<v Speaker 2>at me. So that was my Sunday on Monday, normally

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<v Speaker 2>that was our day off. But I got called in

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<v Speaker 2>of the road. Sure there was, and so water's just

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<v Speaker 2>spraying out and we got the water turned off and

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<v Speaker 2>then found out it was gonna be like eleven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to repair it, and the pastor didn't have the money.

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<v Speaker 2>So some farmer brings his back over digs this hole.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like eight feet deep, and nobody wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>in it, so they made me get in it. Water

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<v Speaker 2>spraying everywhere, and I had to take off this old

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<v Speaker 2>keep falling in. So all I'm thinking is I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to get crushed underneath these things. And it was about

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know sixty degrees during the in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>when I was working on it, my feet got numb,

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<v Speaker 2>my hands got numb. I'm just shaking the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was my Monday and my Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it sounds like those are two very lows.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, very low lows. So then Wednesday night, I

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<v Speaker 2>was the youth pastor and I was also overseeing our

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<v Speaker 2>Ajana program. We had about two hundred at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>about two hunredo hundred kids in the i Wana program,

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<v Speaker 2>and both of those nights were big evangelism nights. So

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<v Speaker 2>I ran in and I spoke in the children's thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I ran over and spoke in the teen thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and combined between those two things, we had like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>something kids give the life to Christ right between teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>and children. And it's a big mental shift to shift

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<v Speaker 2>from teaching children walk right out the door and go

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<v Speaker 2>teach teenagers. Right, It's a big mental shof So I

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<v Speaker 2>came away going, this is amazing. I can't believe I

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<v Speaker 2>got to be a part of this. And then on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>I was rushing because we had this massive event coming

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<v Speaker 2>up on Friday night into Saturday. On Saturday, we had

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<v Speaker 2>like four hundred and something teenagers show. We had twenty

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<v Speaker 2>something kids give their life to Christ for that, and

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<v Speaker 2>then on Sunday, the next Sunday, we baptized like thirty

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<v Speaker 2>something teenagers and children in the church. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>remember looking back that next Sunday going, I got beat up,

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<v Speaker 2>I almost got hypothermia, led like fifty kids to Christ

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<v Speaker 2>and baptized thirty of them. What a week. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe I get paid to do this?

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Wow, it was so hard that the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>was hard, But at the same time, the fruit was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was great. Yeah, dude, those were clean

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<v Speaker 2>the bathrooms on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course you did.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, of course you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's it's a pretty humbling experience when you're paying

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<v Speaker 1>your dues at a smaller church and you're the everything

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<v Speaker 1>else pastor. Yeah, well everything else pastor is rough. But

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<v Speaker 1>back then you have so much energy and you have

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<v Speaker 1>so much you know, naivity, right that you're just like

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well I just felt like it needed to be done.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure if I didn't do it, who was gonna do it? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, but you know now, I'm just like

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<v Speaker 1>I think about those days. I one just want to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was amazing. So I can't believe I get

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<v Speaker 2>to do this moment. I can't believe this is my

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<v Speaker 2>job moment. Yeah, yeah, I get it on both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I still get I still get it at

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<v Speaker 1>those moments like Freedom Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>That was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that kind of moment, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe this is our job kind of it was, which

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<v Speaker 1>is wonderful. We baptized but two hundred and fifty people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was amazing, So good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You go there, it is, Well, do you have another one?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have anything else you need to share? For Sarah, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a good microcosm of how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would just say, I would just say ministry

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<v Speaker 1>is the one of the most difficult and the most

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<v Speaker 1>rewarding things in our case, right, because we're both in

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<v Speaker 1>the same profession. Obviously, there's obviously other people listening who

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<v Speaker 1>are thinking, hey, my job's very similar, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's not that much difference sometimes with especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you do with people like customer service, you know, things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I'm not saying that it's harder than

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<v Speaker 1>all of our listeners, but i am saying it is

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<v Speaker 1>very taxing because I'll tell you why. Because let's just say,

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<v Speaker 1>something goes wrong in a church, right if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a bad behind the scenes staff type leadership experience. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is is that it is not only your place

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<v Speaker 1>of employment where you get a paycheck, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your source of you know income, but it's also your church,

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<v Speaker 1>the place you worship, right, And so when you work

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<v Speaker 1>at the place that you worship, sometimes you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see how the sosage gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Made and looking for pastoral care and all those things yere,

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<v Speaker 2>you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on top of that, it becomes your social network.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's like your entire social life is wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up in most cases in the church, and then it's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's like then it's it's a faith kind of

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<v Speaker 1>acting in leadership? And that is that the way that

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<v Speaker 1>Christ would act. So there's this measuring of like business

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<v Speaker 1>versus faith relationship, and sometimes that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Different, pretty difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I think it's I think it's very

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<v Speaker 1>very taxing because even though that other people work at

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<v Speaker 1>other places, the good news is it's not the place

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<v Speaker 1>you worship unless you work at.

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<v Speaker 2>A church, right, right, right, I would say the other

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<v Speaker 2>difficulty of ministry, the other challenge of ministry. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of difficulties, but the challenge would be it's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to seven. There's never a time you're not a

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<v Speaker 2>pastor at the church. Right. So we can have a

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<v Speaker 2>church person go out to a party on a Friday night,

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<v Speaker 2>have one too many, get a little wobbly, and nobody

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<v Speaker 2>will go. I can't And he's an engineer.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And he's an engineer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I can't believe in it there you were an engineer, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody nobody does that. But there. We're always in our

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<v Speaker 2>families are always under the microscope all the time because

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<v Speaker 2>there's never a time you're not the leader of a church.

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<v Speaker 2>So that pressure can be significant. So there's there's some

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<v Speaker 2>challenges that I think people don't see. But the other

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four people on a weekend, it's unbelievable. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the highs end the lows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, what a great question, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And speaking of great questions, Yes, Jesus asked a

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<v Speaker 1>but oftentimes what questions did he ask? Often times he

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, the older brother asks a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well, hey we are we are in Luke chapter fifteen. Boy,

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<v Speaker 2>In Luke chapter fifteen, Jesus said, or the Bible says,

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<v Speaker 2>text collectors and excuse me, wow, this little cough won't

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<v Speaker 2>go away. Text collectors and other notorious sinners often came

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to Jesus teach. This made the pharisees and

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<v Speaker 2>and one of them gets lost, what will he do?

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<v Speaker 2>Won't he leave the ninety nine others in the wilderness

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<v Speaker 2>and go to search for the one that is lost

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<v Speaker 2>until he finds it. And when he has found it,

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<v Speaker 2>he will joyfully carry it home on his shoulders when

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<v Speaker 2>he arrives. So call together as friends and neighbors, saying,

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<v Speaker 2>rejoice with me because I found my lost sheep. In

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<v Speaker 2>the same way, there is more joy in heaven over

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<v Speaker 2>one lost sinner who repents and returns to God than

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<v Speaker 2>over ninety nine others who are righteous and have it

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<v Speaker 2>straight away. Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins

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<v Speaker 2>and loses one, won't she light a lamp and sweep

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<v Speaker 2>the entire house and search carefully until she finds it.

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<v Speaker 2>Once she finds it, she will call in her friends

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<v Speaker 2>and neighbors and say, rejoice with me, because I've found

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<v Speaker 2>my lost coin. In the same way, there is a

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<v Speaker 2>joy in the presence of God's angels when even one

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<v Speaker 2>sinner repents. To illustrate the point further, Jesus told them

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<v Speaker 2>this story a man who had two A man had

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<v Speaker 2>two sons. The younger son told his father, I want

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<v Speaker 2>his father agreed to divide his wealth between his sons.

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<v Speaker 2>belongings and moved to a distant land, and there he

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<v Speaker 2>and he began to starve. And he persuaded a local

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<v Speaker 2>his field to feed the pigs. Young farmer or the

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<v Speaker 2>young man, became so hungry that even the pods he

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<v Speaker 2>was feeding. The pigs looked good to him, but no

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<v Speaker 2>one gave him anything. When he finally came to his senses,

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<v Speaker 2>he said to himself at home, even the hired servants

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<v Speaker 2>have food enough to spare, and here I am dying

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<v Speaker 2>of hunger. I'll go home to my father and say, father,

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<v Speaker 2>I've sinned against both heaven and you, and i am

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<v Speaker 2>no longer worthy of being called your son. Please take

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<v Speaker 2>me on as a hired servant. And so he returned

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<v Speaker 2>home to his father, And while he was still a

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<v Speaker 2>long way off, his father saw him coming. Filled with

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<v Speaker 2>love and compassion, he ran to his son, embraced him,

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<v Speaker 2>and kissed him. His son said to him, father, I've

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<v Speaker 2>worthy of being called your son. But his father said

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<v Speaker 2>to the service, quick, bring the finest robe in the

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<v Speaker 2>house and put it on him, and bring a ring

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<v Speaker 2>for his finger and sandals for his feet, and kill

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<v Speaker 2>the calf we've been fattening. We must celebrate with the feast,

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<v Speaker 2>for this son of mine was dead and has now

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<v Speaker 2>returned to life. He was lost, but now is found.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the party began. Meanwhile, the older son was

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<v Speaker 2>heard the music and dancing in the house, and he

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<v Speaker 2>asked one of the servants, what was going on. Your

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<v Speaker 2>brother is back. He was told, and your father has

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<v Speaker 2>killed the fat and calf. We're celebrating because his safe return.

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<v Speaker 2>The older brother was hungry and wouldn't go in, or

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<v Speaker 2>was angry, I'm sorry, and wouldn't go in. His father

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<v Speaker 2>came out and begged him, but he replied, all these years,

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<v Speaker 2>I've slaved for you and never once refused to do

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<v Speaker 2>a single thing you told me to. And in all

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<v Speaker 2>that time you never gave me even one goat for

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<v Speaker 2>a feast with my friends. Yet when this son of

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<v Speaker 2>yours comes back after squandering your money on prostitutes, you

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate by killing the fattened calf. His father said to him, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>dear son, you've always stayed by me, and everything I

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<v Speaker 2>have is yours. We had to celebrate this happy day

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<v Speaker 2>for your brother was dead and has come back to life.

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<v Speaker 2>He was lost, but now he's found. Well, there you go,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it has to be in my very

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<v Speaker 1>very top teachings of Jesus. Right. So I think Luke

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen sort of drives most of who I am, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of felt that way even back when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a teenager. So when I was a teenager, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a pretty rough go, you know, and even at fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, fifteen's pretty young to receive Christ, but I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of felt like I lived a lot of life

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<v Speaker 1>up until fifteen, you know, and I felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was a pretty rough goal, you know, and our family

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of rough, our background was kind of rough,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it could have been a lot worse,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. But anyway, all that to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember discovering that Jesus loved me. I felt like the

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<v Speaker 1>lost son. I felt like the lost coin. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like the lost sheep. And I felt like God pursued

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<v Speaker 1>me and came out for me and saved me and

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<v Speaker 1>rescued me. And uh. And then almost immediately I had

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<v Speaker 1>a desire to help those far from God right. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in my youth ministry, we always would like have a

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<v Speaker 1>visitor contest where we would bring you know, so many visitors,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or guests. Uh and you know the most,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you brought the most guests for these

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<v Speaker 1>I was just great at it, you know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>do say so myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, well, you know, as humble as you are, we've

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<v Speaker 2>already established.

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<v Speaker 1>You I'm the most humble but you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>used to do. We used to play poker on Saturday nights.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would invite everybody over talk about some Some

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<v Speaker 1>church people are like, I can't believe you're saying this

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<v Speaker 1>on the air, But we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We it's the worst thing you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, but but we used to do. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do My strategy was I would say, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes like to ten people over my house, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for my little house, and we would play poker.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes it would be terrible, but sometimes we play

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<v Speaker 1>all night, not even go to bed, and then say okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's go to church, and which was not a

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<v Speaker 1>good formula. But but you know, we don't only play

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<v Speaker 1>nickels dimes, right, It was just you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>five bucks or something, you know, and then the winner,

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<v Speaker 1>who won all the money, because they would have to

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<v Speaker 1>be a winner, he agreed to buy everybody breakfast, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was really paying for your own breakfast. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, right. But but anyway, that's what we would do,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that was my strategy, and that is how

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<v Speaker 2>And we sort s your y Your first key evangelism

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<v Speaker 2>strategy is running an underground casino in order to get

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<v Speaker 2>people to go to church. Yes, okay, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>honest so that I would not advise that at this

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<v Speaker 2>stage in your Walk with You.

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<v Speaker 1>the most effective method. It is a method, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. But let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 2>Though.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran a contest saying whoever brings the most guests

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<v Speaker 1>from January to May, the top five people gets to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Ocean City, Maryland for free. And in those

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<v Speaker 1>five months, I think I won. I hate you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was going to sound terrible, but I won

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<v Speaker 1>every year. Okay, So all four years I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the youth group, and I think I won with about

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty or one hundred and eighty people, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was bringing one hundred and sixty one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was sometime getting kids and bringing them to church.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sometimes my guests would bring a guest the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>then that would count double for me. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was one hundred and eighty individuals. But I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you was probably one hundred and ten, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, yeah, so that's amazing. How many people

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<v Speaker 2>say yes if you invite them, yes, right? Most people

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<v Speaker 2>just say that they've never been invited, right, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>most people say.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you take a survey amongst our people

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<v Speaker 1>and say how many of you came by personal invitation,

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<v Speaker 1>that's most people, right, not that if.

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<v Speaker 2>You ask them, how many of you invited somebody this week, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't be very many, right, And that's the gap.

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<v Speaker 2>The majority of people who come to faith get invited

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<v Speaker 2>to faith. Yeah, but most people, less than five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of all Christians will ever be a part of leading

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to Jesus personally. Isn't that amazing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there's a gap. There's so much opportunity, so

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<v Speaker 2>much opportunity, and so the whole premise behind these stories

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about the sheep, it's not about the coin,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about the son entirely. It's really about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the shepherd was willing to sacrifice everything to

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<v Speaker 2>find the lost sheep, right, he was willing to do

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<v Speaker 2>everything in order to do it. It's all about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the woman tore her house apart to find the coin.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all about the fact that the father was

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<v Speaker 2>waiting looking for his son, and as soon as he

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<v Speaker 2>saw his son afar off, he ran to him. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the hero of the story is essentially God. God

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And let's not forget as well the details of

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<v Speaker 1>the story. There's so much we could teach, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talked about how God actually ran to both sons, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's like, so he runs out to his

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<v Speaker 1>He goes outside and he says his father went out

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Right. So his father was seeking the older

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<v Speaker 1>Which is so beautiful, right to understand that God the

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<v Speaker 1>Father loves the ninety nine and the one. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>note right here in my quest study Bible that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been using, and it says, why so little concerned for

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<v Speaker 1>the ninety nine sheep left in the open country, and

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<v Speaker 1>it says they were not left unattended. We tend to

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<v Speaker 1>assume there was only one shepherd, but the Middle Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>shepherd would rarely go out alone with one hundred sheep.

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<v Speaker 1>If a sheep was lost, the head shepherd would leave

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the flock safe and content with the

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<v Speaker 1>hired helpers and go and search for it. God does

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<v Speaker 1>not abandon his followers, but he zealously seeks the loss. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So in any shepherd, by the way, hearing that would

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<v Speaker 1>understand that if a man has one hundred sheep, immediately

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<v Speaker 1>you think, okay, what kind of operation is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure that I have contemplated that. People

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<v Speaker 2>might think he left him alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I've thought that all the time, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I guess I've always had the idea shepherds didn't

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<v Speaker 2>work alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, Well I always thought, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing people will think, because it says

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<v Speaker 1>he leaves the ninety nine right, and so that word

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<v Speaker 1>leaves is a well he did strong word. Yeah, he did, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't mean that his operation of a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>sheep is not a one man operation.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's no way it was Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, so any but either way, though, I love

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<v Speaker 1>how the lost Coin and the Lost Sheep stress that

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<v Speaker 1>there's more rejoicing in Heaven over one sinner than over

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine that are already Christians. And so I always

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<v Speaker 1>like to point out that it's more. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it says, more rejoicing. Now, that doesn't mean that there's

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<v Speaker 1>not rejoicing over Christians, right, It doesn't mean that there's

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<v Speaker 1>not plenty of rejoicing over Christians. It just means that

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<v Speaker 1>there's more rejoicing over a single person who comes to Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>which means the heart of God is for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the person who is far from him or who is lost.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know that that idea of going out,

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of that lost sheep, the importance of the coin,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the heart of the Father. The lost son

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<v Speaker 1>shows the heart of the Father, right, like how much

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<v Speaker 1>he loves the lost coin, the lost sheep, the lost son.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, all three stories have that, right, There's

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<v Speaker 2>more joy in having over one lost center repents returns

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<v Speaker 2>to God in the same way there is joy in

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<v Speaker 2>the presence of God's angels, even when one sinner repents

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<v Speaker 2>and then at the end of the one of the

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<v Speaker 2>prodigal suns and so the party began, right, And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of one of our goals. I think about

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<v Speaker 2>this often. I just want to every chance I get

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<v Speaker 2>to start as many parties in heaven as possible. That's

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<v Speaker 2>I think about it all the time. So, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of neat.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember Jonah. Jonah has four chapters, and remember he

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<v Speaker 1>was Jonah was so mad at God. And then God

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<v Speaker 1>teaches Jonah lesson. He gives him like a gourd or

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<v Speaker 1>like a tree, right, and then the tree withers up

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<v Speaker 1>and Jonah gets mad, and so God says to Jonah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're more angry over this plant than you are over

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you know the entire city was far

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<v Speaker 1>from me. And then what happens is the story ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are not given Jonah's reaction, right, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like we don't know if Jonah said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, God. We don't know if Jonah finally came

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<v Speaker 1>around and said, I pent you're so correct. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>are left to assume that he does right. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a there's a master storytelling method here where the

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<v Speaker 1>father in this case looks at the older son and says,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to rejoice. And I love how he says,

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<v Speaker 1>this son of yours. And then the father turns right

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<v Speaker 1>around and says, we had to rejoice because this brother

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<v Speaker 1>of yours, you know, is now found. And then it ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're not given the reaction of the older son.

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<v Speaker 2>And and so I'll tell you what happens. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>younger son goes to work for the older son, and

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<v Speaker 2>the older son inherits everything his father. That's what happened, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That his life, right, right, he just had to adjust

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<v Speaker 2>his attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right. But but in this moment, right in this

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<v Speaker 1>moment there there needs to be a realization, right because

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<v Speaker 1>the son obviously does not get it. He doesn't understand,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's angry and everything else. But but the realization part,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a I love Jesus's as your storytelling kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a thing where you know, we become, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Pharisee in the story. We become the person that's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like the lesson goes to us and we

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<v Speaker 1>are left to decide how are we going to react?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all of this is in response to the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that there are the deeply religious shocked that Jesus is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to reach notorious sinners. Hey wait a minute, right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is all supposed to be for us, and Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>is like it was, No, it's about reaching them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's about the ones that the notorious sys. Jesus wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>becoming a notorious sinner. He wasn't letting them affect him.

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<v Speaker 2>He was trying to reach them and bring them to

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<v Speaker 2>God right and to change their life. And so this

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<v Speaker 2>happens a lot where sometimes church people get mad about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that there's you know, surprising sinners sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the room or whatever, and you know, Jesus just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>tolerate tolerate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember one time, I'll tell you a real

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<v Speaker 1>quick story.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't tolerate the bad attitude about the fact that there

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<v Speaker 2>were sinners in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me say it, yes, yes, I remember. Dave Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>told a story about he was the Lions chaplain for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty something years and they had a Baba study and

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<v Speaker 1>they invited somebody who was not a Christian from the Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a player, and every babble study he would

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<v Speaker 1>bring alcohol and then he would. Then he would like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pour the wine and say everybody, let's drink

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And there were some deeply religious, faithful follower

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<v Speaker 1>people of the Bible Study that says, hey, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to disinvite him, we have to ask him not to

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<v Speaker 1>stop coming. And then Dave Wilson's like, listen, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that bringing alcohol to Baba study is

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea. He goes, but I am not going

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<v Speaker 1>to He goes, do you understand the kind of people

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<v Speaker 1>that we want to come to here? Are those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of people? Because he just doesn't know any better, right,

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<v Speaker 1>He just doesn't know that that's probably not a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do at a Bible study, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, no, we're not going to disinvite him. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to make him feel comfortable as much as

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<v Speaker 1>we can and still being in the guidelines of our

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<v Speaker 1>own conviction that kind of thing. But we're but we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to offend him and ask him to stop coming. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>turns out that they led this guy to Christ eventually

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<v Speaker 1>because they didn't want to shun him, the religious leaders

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<v Speaker 1>shunning somebody whatever. So they so he leads them to Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>And that guy turns out I wish I could remember

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<v Speaker 1>who who was? But this guy leads, Uh he was

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<v Speaker 1>the backup quarterback and he led Baker Mayfield to Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and so who's who's now Dave is mentoring currently?

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<v Speaker 1>And who was it? Stafford was? It wasn't Stafford it

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<v Speaker 1>was but anyway, it doesn't matter, but but but but

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<v Speaker 1>but it's uh, but it was it was somebody on

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<v Speaker 1>the team who ended up coming to Christ and leading

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<v Speaker 1>other people to Christ. And it was all because, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they attracted somebody who didn't know any better, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, it's like that, that's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant thing, right, when people who have no idea who

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<v Speaker 1>God is walking through the door notorious sinners, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have no idea. Like we had one d in

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<v Speaker 1>vacation Bible school who had a shirt shirt on that

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<v Speaker 1>was inappropriate, and I was like, she doesn't know any better,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad she's here, but change your shirt anyway. Well, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's definitely our time, so we'll see you next time

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bible guys,