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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, we're the Bibble guys, and if you're just

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<v Speaker 2>some of our greatest hits.

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<v Speaker 1>So today we're talking about fighting against God, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least the idea of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's Chris, I'm Jeff, and we're the Daily Baba guys.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, okay, dude, So hey, you know what, we

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to shake up the format a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we thought we would start off by actually

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<v Speaker 1>just reading you something that someone else wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, are you familiar with The Babylon But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really not, you're not really The Babylon b is a

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<v Speaker 2>satire website that does all kinds of fake news stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but from a it's all satire, okay, and it's led

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<v Speaker 2>by Christians. So there's a lot of Christian funny things

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<v Speaker 2>in there. It's not all Sometimes they do politics, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they do social commentary, but there's always almost every time

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<v Speaker 2>they publish, there's something funny about Christianity. So this one

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<v Speaker 2>today is what your favorite book of the Bible says

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<v Speaker 2>about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, So we're just going to read through a

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<v Speaker 3>few of them.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, here's what your favorite book of the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>says about you. If your favorite book is Song of Solomon,

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<v Speaker 1>that means you're a teenage boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, because it's kind of a racy book, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely tell me that when you were a teenage boy

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't giggle at least once reading through the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Song of Solomon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>If Joel is your favorite book, it's because your name

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<v Speaker 2>is Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this one says two Corinthians. That means you're

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<v Speaker 1>a huge fan of the Bible, maybe the biggest fan ever.

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<v Speaker 1>No one has done more for Christianity than you.

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<v Speaker 3>You hate fake news.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a certain famous politician who said two Corinthians

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<v Speaker 2>instead of second Crithians.

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<v Speaker 3>Huge. He was uge, he was so popular, that's right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the best he's the greatest of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>So hulbak. I thought that was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>If if Hubacic is your favorite book, it's because you

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<v Speaker 2>like to shut down people who say, so, what's your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite book of the Bible, because you know they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>read habakk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, it says uh, it says I. If your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite book is Leviticus, that means you're a rabbi or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe amish. I guess that's it. There's only two things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's the only two that you could be.

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<v Speaker 2>If Ruth is your favorite book, every time you close

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<v Speaker 2>your eyes you dream about Boas.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, Bos. Wow. So it says it's romantic, Yes, yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know everybody loves the name Bos.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're Esther, it means you're a huge fan of

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<v Speaker 1>historical fiction novels, will strong female league characters sett in

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<v Speaker 1>Bible times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, there you go. That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So Psalms, right, yeah, this is a true one. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, this isn't a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people who say that they're spiritual but

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<v Speaker 2>not religious say that the Book of Psalms is their favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this one says if you don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>favorite book, they're all just so good.

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<v Speaker 3>It just says you're a teacher, you're the teacher's pet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really good. Yeah, yeah, so those are funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, what's your favorite book in the Bible?

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<v Speaker 3>Book of James, Book of James. Yeah, because it's short,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get to it quick. That would be incorrect.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you, because because he's always the one worried

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<v Speaker 2>about us reading too many verses on the podcast, because

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<v Speaker 2>it takes up so much time.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not even close. It's not, no misunderstood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe so is it, because it just takes a

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<v Speaker 3>No, not even it's not even a time issue. It's not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an issue content issue. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So my issue is less is more when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to talking about, you know, the topic. So instead of reading,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, a whole chapter, time is not the issue

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is if we're only going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say twelve verses in that chapter, only read

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve verses. Because what you're doing is is you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're adding information that doesn't add to the concentrated topic

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<v Speaker 1>of conversation. So for me, it's all about the study strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>So less is more, meaningless is more. Just because you

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<v Speaker 1>throw more verses in there doesn't mean it is better.

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<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, less is more, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we were going to read Acts five seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>through forty two, but now let's just read seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>Just very severe things. Officials who are sadducees were filled

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<v Speaker 3>with jealousy. Let's talk about that. No, Okay, I get

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<v Speaker 3>what you're saying. Okay, big jerk.

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<v Speaker 2>I get well, I've poked fun at you in the

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<v Speaker 2>past over there, and I thought that this was a

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<v Speaker 2>great opportunity to cover that because I think it is

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<v Speaker 2>fair for you to say, you know, sometimes it's not

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<v Speaker 2>necessary to read fifty two verses if we could have

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<v Speaker 2>covered the same major content in selective fifteen verses, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes total sense to me. So, in all fairness,

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<v Speaker 2>that poked fun. Yes, but I think that was a

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<v Speaker 2>very good.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're throwing me a bone of bone of seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I think that's that's a good thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a good thing for you.

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<v Speaker 3>To explain that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways we are reading now. In Acts chapter five,

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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday, Wait, what's your favorite book? Oh, my favorite book? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So I love Ephesians. Yeah, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>I really yeah, And let me just say Ephiesians. Ephesians

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<v Speaker 2>be my favorite book. Ephesians in luke, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>my two favorites.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't get two, I said favorite, Well, I said Ephesians.

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<v Speaker 3>Ephesians is my favorite book. Okay, Okay? Is that? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, move on, Okay, man, I feel like I'm being

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<v Speaker 2>grilled here. Grilled yeah, yeah, yeah, like I'm on a

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<v Speaker 2>stand and you're just coming after me or something.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're the one that put fun of me. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't put fun of you at all. Okay. I just

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to say two. You'll let me say one. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So Act chapter five, we've already said that persecution was

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to ramp up, and there's been a little

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<v Speaker 2>heat's really going to get turned up. And from this

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<v Speaker 2>point to the end of the Book of Acts it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty rough, and then for the next one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years it's going to be rough. For the Christians.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what it says. In verse seventeen. The High

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<v Speaker 2>Priest and the officials, who were sadducees, were filled with jealousy.

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<v Speaker 2>They arrested the apostles and put them in the public jail.

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<v Speaker 2>But an angel of the Lord came at night, opened

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<v Speaker 2>he told them go to the temple and give the

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<v Speaker 2>people this message of life. So at daybreak the apostles

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<v Speaker 2>entered the temple as they were told, and immediately began teaching.

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<v Speaker 2>When the High Priest and his officials arrived, they convened

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<v Speaker 2>the High Council, the full assembly of the elders of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they sent for the apostles to be brought from

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<v Speaker 2>the jail for trial. But when the temple guards went

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<v Speaker 2>to the jail, the men were gone. So they return

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<v Speaker 2>to the council. Report of the jail was surely securely locked,

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<v Speaker 2>guard and the leading priests heard this, they were perplexed,

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<v Speaker 2>wondering where would all end. Then someone arrived with startling news.

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<v Speaker 2>The men you put in jail, are standing in the

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<v Speaker 2>temple teaching the people. The captain went with his temple

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<v Speaker 2>guards and arrested the apostles, but without violence, for they

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<v Speaker 2>were afraid that people would stone them. Then they brought

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<v Speaker 2>the apostles before the High Council.

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<v Speaker 3>Were the high.

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<v Speaker 2>Priests confronted them. Didn't we tell you never again to

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<v Speaker 2>teaching this man's name, he demanded. Instead, you filled all

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<v Speaker 2>Jerusalem with your teaching about him, and you want to

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<v Speaker 2>make us responsible for his death. But Peter and the

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<v Speaker 2>apostles replied, we must obey God rather than any human authority.

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<v Speaker 2>The God of our ancestors raised Jesus from the dead

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<v Speaker 2>after you killed him by hanging him on across. Then

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<v Speaker 2>God put him in the place of honor at his

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<v Speaker 2>right hand as Prince and savior. He did this the

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<v Speaker 2>people of Israel would repent of their sins and be forgiven.

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<v Speaker 2>We are witnesses of these things, and so is the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit, who is given by God to those obey him.

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<v Speaker 2>When they heard this, the High Council was furious and

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<v Speaker 2>decided to kill them. But one member, a Pharisee named Gamelio,

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<v Speaker 2>who was an expert in religious law and respected by

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<v Speaker 2>all the people stood up in order that the men

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<v Speaker 2>be sent outside the council chamber for a while. Then

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<v Speaker 2>he said to his colleagues, men of Israel, take care

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<v Speaker 2>of what your planning to do to these men. Some

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<v Speaker 2>time ago there was that fellow, Theudius or Theudas, who

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<v Speaker 2>pretended to be someone great.

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<v Speaker 3>About four hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Others joined him, but he was killed, and all his

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<v Speaker 2>followers went their various ways. The whole movement came to

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<v Speaker 2>nothing after him. At the time of the census, there

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<v Speaker 2>was Judas of Galilee. He got people to follow him,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was killed too, and all his followers were scattered.

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<v Speaker 2>So my advice is leave these men alone, let them go.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're planning and doing these things merely on their own,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll soon be overthrown. But if it is from God,

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<v Speaker 2>you will not be able to overthrow them. You may

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<v Speaker 2>find yourselves fighting against God. The others accepted his advice,

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<v Speaker 2>and they called in the apostles and had them flogged.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they ordered them never again to speak in the

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<v Speaker 2>name of Jesus, and let them go. The apostles left

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<v Speaker 2>the High Council rejoicing that God had counted them worthy

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<v Speaker 2>to suffer disgrace for the name of Jesus. And every

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<v Speaker 2>day in the temple and from house to house they

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<v Speaker 2>continue to teach and preach this message. Jesus is the Messiah.

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<v Speaker 2>There is what a cool ending to the story, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's let's start with the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I love, I love whenever somebody is bold

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<v Speaker 1>enough to you know, not be intimidated or not be threatened.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, here are.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sadducees and and all the religious leaders. They were

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<v Speaker 2>So just as a reminder, the High Priests and his officials,

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<v Speaker 2>Pharisees to kind of two parties within the Jewish religious system.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pharisees were deeply religious. The Sadducees were highly political,

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<v Speaker 2>preaching about Jesus, making them look really bad because the

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<v Speaker 2>of the Christians and going, yeah, you're right, that Jesus guy,

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<v Speaker 2>he really did raise from the dead. What do we

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<v Speaker 2>do about that? And they all start turning to faith

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<v Speaker 2>in Christ. These miracles that were happening, we read about

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<v Speaker 2>them yesterday. Even Peter's shadow just passing over sick people,

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<v Speaker 2>would heal them? All these incredible miracles that are happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Where evidence is to all the people that the resurrection

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<v Speaker 2>and that the power the Holy Spirit is real and

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<v Speaker 2>we want that. And the Sadducees are like, dude, this

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so they bring them in front of the council.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically saying, you know, we've already commanded you not

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to obey we have to obey God,

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<v Speaker 1>and his authority, not yours. And then, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>he reiterated what they just accused him of. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, the God of our ancestors raised from

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<v Speaker 1>the dead, whom you put on the cross, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>he says it right back in their face.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and and I love Gameleio.

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<v Speaker 1>So so the apostle Paul actually trained under Gameleeel.

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<v Speaker 2>to miss this. They had done miracles, the apostles. Yea,

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<v Speaker 2>all these miracles were happening, yeah, everything, and and God

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<v Speaker 2>gave them courage to face off with the most powerful

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<v Speaker 2>people in their world at the time. These sadd season

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<v Speaker 2>the high priests and the note you know we love

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<v Speaker 2>that Life Application Study Bible. It says the apostles for

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<v Speaker 2>seven teen and eighteen. It says the apostles experience power

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<v Speaker 2>to do miracles. They did great boldness in preaching and

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<v Speaker 2>God's presence in their lives. Yet they were not free

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<v Speaker 2>from hatred and persecution. They were arrested, put in jail, beaten,

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<v Speaker 2>and slandered by community leaders. And then here's the sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>Faith in God does not make troubles disappear. It makes

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<v Speaker 2>troubles appear less frightening because it puts them in the

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<v Speaker 2>right perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>What a great phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't expect everyone to react favorably when you share something

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<v Speaker 2>or threatened. Expect some negative reactions, and remember that you

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<v Speaker 2>must be more concerned about serving God than about the

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<v Speaker 2>reactions of people. So we think man alive. When we

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<v Speaker 2>trust Jesus, all our problems are go away. And in reality,

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<v Speaker 2>faith in God lets us be able to face these

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<v Speaker 2>struggles with a different perspective. They're not so scary when

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<v Speaker 2>you have a God as big as our God to

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<v Speaker 3>Right. So that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why he was able to say the one that

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<v Speaker 2>you killed has risen from the dead. And then now

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<v Speaker 2>begin to Gameleio. Being this kind of voice of reason

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit is pretty amazing. So you said, Paul

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<v Speaker 2>studied under a Gameleia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And by the way, let me just tell you

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<v Speaker 1>It came to my mind when you were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>not worrying about what people think, and you know, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like we want to get in people's face and

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<v Speaker 1>rub God's word in a negative way and in a

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<v Speaker 1>wrong judgy way, you know, and then say.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't care about what you think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the heart of it all. It's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>doing what is right and then you know, going up

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<v Speaker 1>against people who oppose that which is right. Yes, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually thinking my senior year, we were going

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of kids in study hall. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>our first time having sex, and we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of like waiting and being a virgin until

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<v Speaker 1>you're married. I'm the only one in the entire crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>the only one, and every and every and everybody's making

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<v Speaker 3>Not not that even necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>That I even was, but the fact that I that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that that was a good idea to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be to hold yourself back until marriage. Yes, so, like

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<v Speaker 3>you're an advocate.

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<v Speaker 2>For abstinence, what I was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you, thank you for saying it plainly. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So I had said that I was dating my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>And and so basically they were just all, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the fact that ohaha, you know, it was more

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<v Speaker 1>like why, and I said because, And I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so stupid and so outdated it's a religious

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<v Speaker 1>And that was a case where it's like, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually remember in that moment thinking, I am

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<v Speaker 1>proud to be the one standing up, and I'm proud

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<v Speaker 1>I almost wore it like a badge of honor, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so proud of myself in that moment, for

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<v Speaker 1>I have enough guts to say, yes, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. Right, And so you know, Peter or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys coming out of the prison who got flogged,

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<v Speaker 1>they said that they were counting it. They were rejoicing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that they had counted themselves worthy, God kind

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<v Speaker 3>Worthy, you know, for the pursuit, worthy to disgrace.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so most of us don't think that that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing. Yeah, right, for Christ, most of us would

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<v Speaker 2>fear that we would be afraid of having people mock us,

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<v Speaker 2>or that we might lose our job, or that people

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<v Speaker 2>for promotion. You know, these guys have been put in prison,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when they were let the angels let them

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<v Speaker 3>Is super cool, by the way. We just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Super cool that the angel lets them out of prison.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they go out and start preaching immediately, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to obey God rather than men. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they get beat again and then released, and these guys

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<v Speaker 2>are like, hey, it's a privilege to suffer for Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, our savior suffered for us. It's a privilege

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<v Speaker 2>to suffer for him. If that's what we have to do, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>None of us want to suffer.

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<v Speaker 2>But they looked at it totally different than you and

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<v Speaker 2>I would look at it, and maybe maybe it would

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<v Speaker 2>faith and say, you know what, whatever it takes to

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<v Speaker 2>get the good news of the message of Jesus Christ out,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do it now. They weren't fighting over

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<v Speaker 2>political positions, they weren't fighting over social issues. Were What

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<v Speaker 2>they were pushing back on was Jesus Christ is the

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<v Speaker 2>only way to heaven. Jesus Christ's sacrifice is the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to get your sins forgiven. That's what they were

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<v Speaker 2>pushing on. They weren't making political fights, right, so, they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't being put persecuted because of who they were going

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't being.

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<v Speaker 2>Persecuted for their position on some social issue that you

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<v Speaker 2>disagree with, you know, with the person across the street.

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<v Speaker 2>They're here suffering persecution, specifically for the gospel.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>And they count it great worthy, you know, a great

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<v Speaker 1>So the the Bible note says, have you ever thought

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<v Speaker 1>about persecution as being a blessing? As something worth rejoicing about?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it is a really great question for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so anyway, when I was going back to Gamaliel,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just referring to the fact that when Paul

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, when he was Saul and became Paul. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a point in time where he actually studied under Gamaliel.

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<v Speaker 1>And so keep in mind that Gamaliel, you know, was

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<v Speaker 1>intertwined with these religious people, so is Paul. Paul is

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<v Speaker 1>a Pharisee. Paul was right there with that crew and Gimaliel.

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<v Speaker 1>It is no wonder why he's such a great teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's demonstrating incredible wisdom, because he's saying, listen, you

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<v Speaker 1>think they're a sham, but what if they're not? And

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<v Speaker 1>if God is real, could you imagine fighting against God?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's saying, he's saying, so leave them alone, because

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<v Speaker 2>You know, historically, Goammelliel was one of the at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>the premier religious leaders. He sat on the High Council,

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<v Speaker 2>which would be the highest It would be like their

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<v Speaker 2>version of the Supreme Court. Right, what did they call

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<v Speaker 2>the High Council, by the way, Yeah, the Sanhedrin. Man

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<v Speaker 2>as John a blank there. So he sat on the Sanhedrin.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the most respected guys. And then

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<v Speaker 2>among the Sanhedrin, he was, you know, a man among

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else, and so he becomes an unexpected ally to these,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to Peter and the rest of the disciples,

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<v Speaker 2>not because he was supporting their position, but rather, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>unquote messiahs have sprung up, and he mentions a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of incidences where people had gotten up and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this happen. A bunch of times the founder is dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let it run.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll run out of gas. There's no reason. So what

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to do is trying to not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>encourage the Sanhedron and the rest of leaders to not

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<v Speaker 2>expose themselves to some kind of uprising. Ignore it and

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<v Speaker 2>it'll go away. So he wasn't endorsing their position. He

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<v Speaker 2>was just saying they're of no consequence. Ignore them, and

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing will go away unless it's of God.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's a tongue in cheek statement he's

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<v Speaker 2>making here. I don't think he thinks it's of God.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's saying, if it's of God, hey, then

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to fight against God. But come on, it

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<v Speaker 2>always goes away.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying right here, And sure enough, they wind up going, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some wisdom in that, we don't need to stir

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<v Speaker 2>the pot. And they just beat these guys and say

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<v Speaker 2>you can't speak in Jesus name anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's actually fun to think about what Gamellel really

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<v Speaker 1>did think because the phrase that it reads, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's translated in different ways in different books, but the

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<v Speaker 1>way it translates here is you may even find yourselves

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<v Speaker 1>fighting against God. Well, there's a part of me that

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<v Speaker 1>likes to believe that maybe he did think perhaps it

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<v Speaker 1>could be true. He gave no indication to your point, right,

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<v Speaker 1>no indication, But there's a part of me that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>hopes kind of like Nicodemus, you know, Nicodemus, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>never really truly turned the corner. But we find Nicodemus,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a religious leader that Jesus approached in John

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<v Speaker 1>chapter three, right, and he gave the most famous version

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<v Speaker 1>all the Bible to Nicodemus, John three sixteen, the most

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<v Speaker 1>famous verse and explained in Nicodemus. And Nicodemus was not

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<v Speaker 1>ready to leave his position as a religious leader and

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<v Speaker 1>follow Jesus. But after Jesus died, Nicodemus went to the tomb, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so we know that he was a believer and

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<v Speaker 1>follower in Jesus. And so yeah, so I just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of view Gamaliel as like a not as far along

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<v Speaker 1>maybe perhaps as Nicodemus, right, but maybe perhaps you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you never know here, but I do know what

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing, and I think that we as Christians should

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<v Speaker 2>be this similar in this He's showing tolerance to a

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<v Speaker 2>religious viewpoint that's not violent, right, They're not oppressive, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to overthrow a government. But they're saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no reason to fight these people just because of

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<v Speaker 2>their beliefs. And there's some wisdom in that for all

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<v Speaker 2>of us today to offer a little bit of tolerance.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not talking about violence and hurting other people

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<v Speaker 2>and they have a different opinion from mine, I can

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<v Speaker 2>make room for them in a free society.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think that in.

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<v Speaker 2>His wisdom, in his age, in his experience, he was like, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not fight about stuff that's not worth fighting about.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of wisdom I think in that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not you're not endorsing another viewpoint just because you

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<v Speaker 2>allow that viewpoint to exist, right, Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So as we wrap up our time, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the good thing to take away from today is let

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<v Speaker 1>us not be afraid to stand up for God to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if we consider ourselves being persecuted, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>time and you know, made fun of whatever, whatever, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to start thinking like Peter and John and saying

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually a blessing right that God has considered

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<v Speaker 1>me worthy to stand up, make a difference and take

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<v Speaker 1>a stand for the truth in this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and count yourself worthy, right, Let God count

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<v Speaker 2>you worthy in that. So tomorrow we're going to pick

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<v Speaker 2>up with some some organizational difficulties that they're having within

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<v Speaker 2>the church, and then the first martyr in Christian in Christianity, Stevens.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's going to be a really powerful, i think

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<v Speaker 2>discussion tomorrow. So that's what we're gonna be talking about tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>So join us then,