Source doesn't see anything as negative. It's just
like this is an experience you're having in
physical that separate you from source energy so
that you can suffer a little bit and
create something new through that suffering experience
and then that expands your being, which expands
source, which is the reason we come to
physical. We are taught to demon eyes all
suffering and demon it for life. Oh, that
horrible thing that happened to when with your
child that's so terrible. It's awful. That should
have never been, and I'm like, no. That
was the best thing that ever happened to
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Welcome,
good see you... Happy... Yeah. Lovely to talk
to you again. I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah. I was just on your podcast. Maybe
just a week ago or so? Yeah. Yeah.
And it was an interesting conversation. I think
we worked out that we could talk all
day if we were let loose So... And
and very similar in the way that we
look at things and explore things, which I
really love. Always
no to meet a kindred spirit.
Yeah. I looked... I I'm not gonna say
that I read your book because that would
not be true. I looked through your book
in great detail.
I kept stopping and thinking yes. Yes. Yes.
This is it. This is
and the part that really struck me that
I like that I didn't haven't really talked
to a lot about.
Is
spiritual ego.
Yeah.
Love to get into because that... That's a
that's kind of a thing in our world
isn't.
Oh, absolutely. And and the way that I
write all my books is so that you
can open a page and just explore a
concept.
And in especially the other book that I've
got. That's the idea of it. You know,
it's it's a bit heavier,
But it's about just opening a page and
getting a concept to explore.
And and when we're looking at
spiritual ego, what I found.
And I've done it myself, this isn't a
criticism on anyone. Because I've done it myself
is that we follow trends and we look
for results. If I do this, will I
feel this way will I get what I
want?
And that feeds our ego,
and it makes us lose that sense of
individuality.
And sometimes people confuse,
individuality and ego together. You know I'm defending
my rights. I'm, you know, I've watched people
use. Oh, I'm I'm just telling the truth
and they're offend people and they're being nasty
and spite, but it's the truth that this
truth.
And at that's that's ego feed. But when
you you might understand the truth and you
can explain it in a way
that lets you hold to your individuality without
causing extreme harm to other people.
So when we're looking at ego, it's where
you discount everything, and you actually put a
coverage
over your soul and operate from that that
camouflage
of
often saying the right words but the energy
and the words aren't matching.
So...
And 1 of the reasons I sort of
really started to explore spiritual. I had a
she was an abuse victim, and she was
really struggling.
And she had a few sessions and then
she, you know, I didn't hear from her
again, and then she come back
Probably about 2 or 3 years later, and
she said that she met someone
who talked very similar to me, and she
followed him, but she actually walked into, like
a halt like
situation,
and it would got extreme very extreme,
but she kept just
trusting these words and I said no. What
what did you see that backed up any
of those words, How did it feel? She
was constantly scared
I was doing the wrong thing,
and I said, he was then using your
victim hood and getting you to a align
with ego
you know, I'll get this right, and then
I'll be a special person too. That was
his theme.
And I said, you just got caught in
the trap. So she's doing really well now,
which is brilliant.
But I thought there's a real danger in
this if we don't understand
spiritual ego
because it opens a door to a lot
of people that walking with really good intentions.
And they walk into something that they can't
recognize.
And and
especially for people that are, you know, that
had had abusive or toxic
relationships or, you know, really struggling to understand
their own individuality.
When you're looking for something, if you you
will
pull into your shame of I'm not getting
this right
instead of recognizing
everything in within me saying this isn't right.
So that's why spirituality goes really important to
at least explore and be very open to
how easy it is for us all to
fall into that trap.
Certainly.
I I always say that Ego serves to
overs shadow source. It's sort of this duality.
I think we talked about this. Right? This
duality that we operate in. And your ego
is sort of overs that. And then when
you get into
something new that you found that you're really
excited about it, it starts changing your life.
That's something that's sort of a phase of
spiritual awakening,
you wanna shot up from the rooftops, which
is great, but you also now believe that
you have the keys to the universe, and
therefore,
you're superior in some way.
You know, I'm a star seed. I'm of
this. I I've heard all of this stuff
before. And
it's okay to believe that you're worthy of
the universe because we're all expressions of source.
But soon as you start getting into that,
I'm superior thing,
source is not present in that.
Because source is very clear, the person that
doesn't believe in source the atheist, you know,
the somebody that really believes in in religion
in a very devout way,
they they are no better or worse than
anyone else, we're all the same in that
regard.
Yeah. And I 1 thing, I... I did
this very early, which I think was, I
call it my saving grace
is... And I refer to sources
truth, you know, Like I, I...
And it comes in many forms and it
comes in lots of different ways. But I
look at it as
it's a
a friendship, and a friendship needs to have
mutual respect for it to work.
And
source
is really happy to walk beside me as
a friend.
But I also have to be really prepared
to be a good friend to source,
and that mutual respects
respect keeps that
that level of
honesty
in the relationship. If we then use
truth or source or the the concept of
it because we're not really using it once
we go into ego, we're not We're not
of it. We're not aligned with it. We're
not having a friendship with it. We're abusing
source.
And I used to years ago get really
offended when I'd see it. And and now
I understand that somebody else's path. So don't
it just where they are in their experience
and some people would stay there, and some
people move through that and move I certainly,
when I when I first started doing what
I do
I had a little bit of a savior
thing going on. A little... I'm gonna save
the world. I'm gonna change the world with
this, and I saw very quickly that no.
That was never what this was about that
this is
aligning
with people who are aligned with it. And
sometimes, I'll even say, like ready for it.
And even that has a ego in. Right?
That's sort of like, you know, you have
to progress to be ready for stuff.
Not to catch myself because when I say
ready for it, I don't mean
you've... You're worthy of it now. I just
mean that you're aligned with it. We really
do have to watch our words sometimes because.
Spirituality is a big tent. Probably a bigger
tint of religion if you think about it.
And there's just so many different
mindset and modalities, and it kind of just
encompasses either your religious, you're an atheist or
your spiritual. And that's
spiritual part means so many different things to
so many people.
Yeah. And it's... And then sort of why
I wrote a lot about individuality and uniqueness.
Because we're we're herd animals, you know, like
we're tribal. We want to fit into a
tribe. We want to feel a sense of
belonging.
And it's very strong, It's extremely strong in
us, and there's nothing wrong with that. But
a real honest,
collective of people like consciousness is a collective
is all individuals holding to their individuality
within that collective.
And as soon as we start dictating and
molding,
what someone should think,
feel,
behave, all those kind of things,
then all of a sudden, we've got to
dictate a shit, which is now you're turning
into a religion. That that's how I appreciate
the 2. Right? Is is okay. You'd layer
on rules,
in deities and worship. Well, now you're not,
you know, spiritual religion certainly intersect, but Yeah.
They be more into the direction of religion.
And I was at a, a spiritual event
in Palm Springs years ago. It's actually where
I met Debbie g on my show quite
a bit.
And this it all kinds of different... The
big tent. There was even a woman there
with a cape and a wand.
Not thought interesting. And I was brand new
to this world
publicly.
And this this young lady got up, and
she led us in a prayer, and it
was a very christian prayer,
and I am... I don't identify as Christian.
I'm not a Christian you know, I have
not been in a long time. But it
was a lovely prayer, and I part took,
and I bowed my head, I gave it
power. You know, sheep she, this is what
she believes and and this is a lovely
moment. If the woman next to me. I
don't know she was she grabbed me. She
says, she's not doing it right. We're supposed
to be outside and bare feet.
I'm like, well, you know, if there's whether
it's source or God, I don't think we're
getting canceled because we're not doing it.
And and all those things have a place,
you know, like, if if that works for
you and sometimes in... When especially when people,
you know, Our will turned upside down. We're
looking for rituals where we're looking for something
for comfort.
So could have a pint, but it's just
that
dictatorship and you know, I always... I, this
is terrible, but I always look for... When
I'm in a religious
at a religious person's funeral. I wait for
the
the ind inauguration
conversation to start from the pulpit, You know,
like, okay. And I've seen this...
I won't say what church, and I won't
say what funeral was. But I seen this
guy put his arms out. He said all
those here
today
that aren't part of this church. You're damned
to hell.
I was like, we're here to celebrate someone
else's locked. Yeah. That has nothing to do
with you. Yeah. Yeah. And your ego is
so great. That you have used her funeral
for that moment. Yeah. Could you imagine morning
the loss of someone that you loved and
then hearing that you're gonna burn in hell
from, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And then with silence, you could
hear everyone to
hold their breath and just sort of, like,
what just happened And I was like, how
what part of christianity is that? It was
a hijacking. Of a few... Was a high...
Or, definitely. I... When you said, I just
fell back because my father passed away last
September and 1 of his former students as
a minister and did the Eu g, and
my brother got up and said a few
things. I did not. So I'm like, okay.
My belief system is probably not gonna work
in room. And
the... Because my belief system is... This is
all perfect. This is exactly what it should
be, and he's released now. And he's... You,
nobody wants to hear that know, not somebody
that's not into what we're doing So I'm
not here to push my thing, that's why
I didn't get up and speak. But he
did a really good job not going down
that path. You all. Now that now that
you're saying that I really do appreciate that
it was a very,
you know, the very secular
eu, and it was really a a celebration
of him and of him. And then this
person actually had a greater relationship with my
father than I did. So which was... Interesting
experience for me, but I digress. So the
notion But that's what a funeral should be.
Yeah. You know, it's about that person
and comforting the people
in celebration of their life.
Yeah.
More than, you know, by the way, I'm
gonna doctor All of you know my religion.
You're gonna burn an hell if you don't
think like I do, take a pile on
the way out.
Basically growth. Yeah. You know, It's it's like,
if you if you believe in God or
the concept of God that most religions have
some sort of concept of that, Does that
powerful energy that is a creator of all
things
really need you to sell it that way?
Yeah.
Yeah. And 1 of things are stream said
all long time ago was very early on
is we are source. I do channel source.
I think we all do in our own
way.
We don't need you to worship us? Why
would the source of all creation need to
be worship or even obeyed? And it just
made so much more logic to me
that you know, vengeful God. You... I'm gonna
create you so you can worship me. I'm
gonna give you desires. But if you act
on, I'm gonna Daniel you to hell. Yeah.
Here's like here's the rule book. And by
the way, the world gonna gonna come out
in the last the most recent 2000 years.
Of all history of the universe.
Yeah. And someone's gonna have a lot of
power because they hold the rule book. You
know, which is which is where
mankind has, or, you know, you... I I
call mankind, those
of us who have forgotten that we are
sole in a, a physical body. And I
call humanity. We're in our humanity when we
remember we're souls in a human. Mh. Physical
body. And I... That's how I gotta run
the 2.
But with mankind energy and when we operate
from that has made those rules and and
has
altered stories and changed it to suit the
control structures that they wanted.
And, you know,
there was a time where that was the
power, and nobody was
thinking
individually and thinking about their uniqueness and thinking
about their own
relationship
with source.
Truth it's empowering, really, It's... You know, you're
you're not the creator of your well being,
I call it abundance, but you're well being
God is and it's taking that power away
from you. Yet you really are still creating
because there are people in that church that
are very wealthy and healthy and and and
living a whole different life than other people
that are in the same building.
Mh So,
I... That's the problem that I always have
because I grew up in a Christian religion,
and it was sort like, okay, God loves
all of us,
why are only white people in this building
and then in my hometown, everyone that wasn't
white was in another building across town and
we were separated.
Because of solving of course our building was
much nicer than they're building. And why does,
you know, my aunt who is so religious
tell me that God gave her a cadillac
for Christmas.
What do you know God made me too?
I want I wanna porsche. What's going on?
Joke. You know,
Wonky stuff that, okay, people tell themselves that...
Well, well, that's that's the thing, you know,
actually in I've got another book coming out
at the end of the year called emerging
awareness.
And it's for that stage of... You know
where your... Awareness is lightning, and your Ego
can run a mark, Well, all of us
got a story about it. Ego goes running
them up. And and it talks about that
a lot, but it your awareness is high,
but your comprehension and your understanding hasn't called
up. So I talk about that time and
then I... Also at the back of the
book Remind you of your actual essence, you
know, kindness,
compassion, all those are your natural essence.
But in there, I wrote a story about
my grandmother on my father's side.
And she was the... You know, there were
farmers and she go to church each,
Sunday
And his father
wasn't a religious man, but apparently was what
I never met him but he was 1
of the nicest men, generous, compassionate.
Men could ever meet. And I believe that
when you look at his the his children,
they're all of that.
And
the that... My father adds a little fellow.
It was only 2 or 3. He used
to play with the the
we call them originals back then now now
we call them first Nation people that live
down the road, and they were best of
mates, sort of same age, best of mates
and
And my his father had made him like
this truck out of ward. So he made
the same for, Warren
was the little boy's name and dad's name
Reg.
And these kids would play together and the
mothers would talk and you know, beautiful friendship.
And the church ladies organized to come out
and discuss something with Na. And so she
made tea, you know, Gone and tea, and
all the rest of it. And the kids
were playing. Like, you know, she had both
the boys are playing.
And they give it to her. I absolutely
slammed them for it. And then she got
up. The story goes, she got up, and
from the veranda could see these 2 little
kids playing with their wooden trucks
and said I don't know what you see,
but I see 2 little boys
having a beautiful friendship.
And gods in that. Mh. And then anyway,
apparently, there was a, you know, Donor as
they left the thing, and no 1 spoke
to her again. So she still went to
church,
but she sat at the back and no
1 spoke to her. And and and my
pops said, why do you keep going and
she goes, k God knows why I'm there.
They've got their own story, but I go
there to say,
I know you exist. I know you love
me, and I'm loving you back.
And that to me means she's the most
Christian woman
coming from a beautiful
sense of self
as well as being part of that, but
she got os size for it.
That's always interesting to me because if you
follow repeat, I was raised Christian, as I
said. And if you follow the teachings of
Christ,
Yes. That none of that ego is really
there. It's all about loving each other it's
very
hippie. It's very woke. You know, It's it
really is. And that's been so worked out
of it, especially, you where I am in
the United States, you know, kris Christianity is
morph, and I know not for everyone. And
I will say with a caveat here. I
give... I'm all about appreciation of all things.
So my appreciation of religion is that created
structure that kept humanity sort of, you know,
together and kept... Things moving forward it's the
basis of a lot of education and government
and stuff that served us to a point,
but we're sort of waking up from that
place now. But how can you say that
you're a Christian
and then turn around and judge and hate
people and say that you're in and pull
something out of the old testament,
which is definitely, you know, or they call
it a cafeteria catholic, When you you kinda
pick and shoes, you know, what what you're
gonna follow, pull something out of the old
testament to justify,
what's really complete ego.
No god the research present in this judgment
and domination of other people and
dictating customers things have. And forgetting all of
that,
judge not lest you be judged stuff that's
in there also.
Yeah. Which is, you know, it's a key
point. Isn't it. It's a it's a bit
of the advertisement to get you in the
door.
And then we'll tell you what to judge
You know, that I that... That their community
just ends up being we're superior. We know
better. We won't our way. And we're going
to force everyone to be. And there's a
lot of that. And it's it's. You know,
we we started kind of creating a destruction
of it, and now it's... At least where
I am, and I think this is happening
in other places too. It's coming on stronger
now. It's like, no. No No. We don't
wanna go away. I call this the matrix.
You know m.
We don't wanna go away. We don't wanna
be d att. We don't wanna be cast
aside. We're gonna really assert ourselves now. Because
now it's being... It's being ind.
Are being infiltrated into our schools and stuff
where that hasn't been in quite some time.
And we're being fed, you know, like I
said, whatever my belief. Fears. As soon as
I go on social media, it's gonna get
pumped at me. So I'm not I'm not
exploring anything. You know, I come from a
family where if you had an opinion, you
had to tell why you had that opinion.
Why why do you think that? Oh, because
of this is well actually you're missing a
fact. He's a fact. Going...
Go and look at that and find you
know, like, especially good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Especially
with history. You know, like, oh, mean, why
do you think though? Well, because it. Well
go on and research that. So it'd be
like, oh, I didn't know this. You know?
And I still do that now. You know,
I'll, hear something like yes. I didn't know
that. But now that I do it changes
my perceptions. And but I realize that my
perception is constantly changing. And when you're talking
about...
Spiritual ego,
it will latch on.
It will be you latching onto something that
feeds something within you. That probably needs resolving.
Not feeding.
And then you'll hold to that position and
your fight like hell to hold onto it.
Whereas
spirituality is about being open and ready to
explore.
And constantly dynamically
changing. My my perception today is very different
to what it was. 2 years ago. 6
It will continue to evolve. You know you
probably know that now. Right? It would just
be, absolutely.
Yeah. We're beings and and we don't stop.
Every time I thought, I I reached the
ceiling. I know it all now. I really
understand the universe. I'm really there. I've crossed
the threshold and life's gonna be perfect.
I'm gonna create some sort of massive spin
out of my life to show me. You
don't know what damn thing. You're just getting
started with it. So I I told her
if I love the game because it doesn't
end. You're you're always d tuning things, you're
always learning more, you're you're getting a clear
picture. I just think it just doesn't end.
Oh, I agree. It's available right nowhere near
the, you know, the end of it. If
they're... I don't think there isn't an end
of it. I think it just...
Expansion is just eternal.
Yeah. I agree with that. And it and
it's interesting. When I go back right back
just when I started first exploring things.
And I... Because I could always see things.
I could always see, you know, what people
refer to a ghost or spirits or... And
sometimes I would hear things. And, you know,
all that sort of stuff. And it wasn't
made...
My family didn't make a big thing of
it. They were just like, okay. That's what
you do and You're okay. And I used
to freak people out. So I learned not
to sort of say what you could hear,
especially if it was someone's thought,
And you went, oh, you know, da,
and they'd be, like, yeah. So I I
sort of shut it down. And then when
I sort of hit that that sort early
twenties, I started looking at things again just
really tentatively walking in there and exploring things.
And I can remember seeing I was laying
on a lounge,
and I could see this being standing in
front of me, and it was like, you
can have whatever you want now I thought.
Okay.
This is good.
And
so and then it disappeared, and I went
and had a bath, and my ceiling sort
of went all this motley
like spun gold over the ceiling. I was
impressive, and
I was like, right. I can tell you
I had for someone that had a bath
every now and then, was having a bath
every night just in case that would come
back. So all these things were reassuring something
was happening.
And then this being the standing at the
end and said, we can make you the
greatest
clair. We can make you the greatest medium.
We can do all this... What do you
want?
And I looked at it and I thought,
I got a funny feeling in your word
source
does not bargain.
So I think you're all
full of nothing. I want nothing to do
with you. And I think in that moment
for me was choosing
spiritual ego
over honesty.
And I I needed the honesty. I needed
to feel it, and that felt wrong, and
I felt shallow.
So I call that my saving grace that
in those moments, I realized that authenticity
was more important than game playing. Because that
thing would have played with me and then
destroyed me it would have it made me
imp in on myself, which I... I didn't
know that then, but I do know that
now that that's how it would have played.
So it's real... I really feel for people
that have been caught up in those kind
of experiences, and that can be done with
a person.
It can be done with thought
It can be done with an outside influencing
you, something dark, influencing you and you don't
realize.
So there's lots of traps and it's that
authenticity,
it's trusting uniqueness and really trusting how it
feels.
It's gonna give you an idea of whether
you're walking the the right direction that's gonna
serve your purpose of evolving, because I think
we're here to
resolve what we have created that is not
of us.
And then so that we can
evolve into the truth of who we are.
We don't have to create it. It's already
there. We're just walking into it.
No.
Yeah. I'm gonna veer off for just a
moment into something you just shared though. So...
Yep. When you're having these Clair
experiences,
do you think
that that is something that is coming to
you
and appearing to you, or do you think
that that's something that your mind is creating
so that you're sort of channel energy in
a way that that you can connect with
it?
That's a really good question. That's a really
good question.
In that case, that was something coming at
me. And I could feel the at. So
that's something
outside coming at. Something was playing with me.
So that's not of source,
Alright?
When it is of source, it comes through
you, you feel it internally.
And sometimes I feel it very separated
from me, but I'm I'm,
you know, I think I talk in Friendship,
You know, It's like, a friends turned up.
And I and I feel that.
And sometimes
Can feel it a part of me.
It's it's my own awareness,
and and I've... It's taken me a long
time, and I'm sometimes still confused, but I
generally can tell
if it's...
From what our class is consciousness, something of
pure
purity,
and whether it... But but anything coming at
me from outside. I am quick to dismiss.
So
unless it is
someone's
crossed over seoul, like a
someone visiting
that way, that there's a completely different feel
for that. So...
Because my awareness is so broad,
I'm very aware of the dark forces as
well, like W
Energy and things like that. I'm not sure
if you're aware of all those kind of
things, but
that that there. So I'm very
cautious before
I align, and I don't
as far as
like, the old... I'm gonna say the old
fashioned version of channel, and letting something in
your system, which I think is very different
to what you do.
That's a access point where whereas
when I was, you know, in the... In
my twenties and early thirties, I was doing,
you know, visiting a lot of different and
looking at what they were doing.
And
I experimented
I would say about 5 minutes with that
because
it felt very dirty, It felt very gritty.
And as you would know, that's not when
you're accessing source,
that's not how it feels.
So
you know, And even there, I, you know,
I'm I'm sorry. I'm just having a little
internal giggle. I, you know, so leave my
grandmother story. I got little lost os size
from
1 particular group because I was went, this
is gritty. It's dirty, and I can see
really dark energy and and they just said
it. Aren't you, you know, you're you're not
aligning. You're not giving your heart, and I
was like, I'm out of here because this
don't feel right. I feel scared.
I've never felt scared,
at any time when there is consciousness,
energy, whether it's crossed soul or whether it's
part of source
in any form. So...
But you need all those experiences to learn.
Mh. You know, we're we're experienced based. And
well especially those of us that sort of
seek we have a little bit of it
that happens naturally, especially when we're young. But
if you continue forward and you start seeking
it, then you do need to understand what
it is. You're tapping into... I used to
use a pendulum.
Before I was really chatting with you now,
I would use a pendulum, and I got
very clear
Yes no in in this pendulum.
And every once well, I would be desperate
about something. This is a long time ago.
And I would want desperately want an answer
to something, and I grab that pendulum. I
dive in, And I'm like, I don't I
don't feel right right now
with this because, of course, the the pendulum
is reading your... You may not move at
all, but it's just... Still your vibe as
moving the pendulum. And I try to be
as still as I possibly can. I don't
wanna control it at all.
So
I remember I would do this little test.
Whatever I got there. I would if I
would ask something. I realized that I raced
into it. I didn't clear. I didn't raise
my vibration. I didn't meditate. I didn't do
anything. I just grabbed that up desperation. What
do you think you're connecting to energetically?
And I would... A couple of questions in?
I would say, should I kill myself and
the pendulum would say yes.
Like, okay. I know what I'm talking to
now. And I I don't personally believe in
evil spirits that are out there projecting. I
think it's more human more earth bound stuff
that's
it's energy for sure, but I think it's
more the density of earth and the the
polarity of earth. And certainly, there is negative
We we talk about the matrix. There's a
negative matrix. There's people that think gosh, If
I just kill enough people. I'll get my
way. You know? So how can we label
that? Source. Source isn't like that. Not. So...
So so that's what III realized oh, I'm
talking Yeah. No that because I'm desk it.
And my vibe is low and my ego
is more at play than source in this
moment.
Yeah. And when you when you hear, like,
Wat and that kind of energy, You're talking
about a collect of energy. So
come with me for a minute. Is when
when we're coming from our natural essence. So
say, you know, we're we're having an honest
conversation and reject got this general respect for
1 another. So we're creating a safe space
for each other to to express and talk
and and and we're not hitting each other
with judgment we're be excited to tell each
other out what we understand and all those
kind of things. So there's there's a really
good
truthful energy happening So we could refer that
to that as having a conscious
vibration.
If I came with the agenda, and I
wanted to prove you wrong, and I wanted
to judge you and I wanted to put
you down, I wanted do all those nasty
things.
I'm counting from what what is my soul
unconscious it's, my emotional baggage because I'd be
doing that to feed
something within myself. I wanna feel superior or
whatever it is.
That energy generates. And that's the energy that
is in the mankind collective.
Alright? So we've got our
humanity collective, which is the truth of us
within assault, you know, souls within a human
body, and we've got our natural essence, and
we've got our mankind collective.
Which is all the emotional baggage and and
an and all those different kinds of vibrations
that we create.
When we're opposing each other, when we're against
each other. When we feeding it, whatever ego,
you know, all those things.
That energy is what you can tap into.
Now there are certain things that will feed
off that energy, and they will have their
own agendas.
But some people feed off that energy and
they have their own agendas. If you've ever
been in a room with someone that air,
you know, that's gas lighting you every time
you say, the skies blue their around here
the point with you. Every time you say
something they're sc at you and try and
get the crowd to join them. All those
kind of things that's pulling,
you know, as there is people that we
use that energy, there's also other dark stuff
that we use that energy. But we also
have
things that are using the conscious energy and
of conscious energy. And it's where the interface
between the 2
and we're deciding what energy we work with.
And sometimes we've got to deep into our
lower vibrations because they're in our system
and part of the evolutionary process is to
pull them up,
deal with them and convert them into something
conscious, which could be wisdom. You know, if
you think, you know, you're like me. If
you go back when you were first exploring
it,
what you understand now is is miles away,
but all those experiences and all those things
that we had, We had to experience. Right.
It got you here.
Yeah. Here. It's all expansion of consciousness. All
of the dark bad, low carb stuff exists
to inspire new positive creation.
That's why source doesn't believe anything is... Source
doesn't see anything as negative. It's just like
this is an experience you're having in physical
that separates you from source energy so that
you can suffer a little bit and create
something new through that suffering experience, and then
that expands your being, which expands source, which
is the reason we come to physical.
And
understanding that is such a life changing thing
because we are taught to demon all suffering
and fear, and, you know, demon it for
life. Oh, that horrible thing that happened to
you when as your child that's so terrible.
It's awful. That should have never been, and
I'm like, no. That was the best thing
that ever happened to me.
You know, and the things that happened throughout
my lifetime now. I can look back at
all of them and see how it just
propelled me forward.
Yeah. And you can only do that if
you've been on a you know, a healing
resolving process.
For those that are stark,
they can't... They're stuck. You know. So they
don't they don't feel that. And they need
argue with you, which I don't engage in
that, but they... Like, on my Tiktok,
they wanna argue that, no No. And I...
Whatever I have a Tiktok that I put
out, and it does really well. It always
starts with all the people that are pushing
against it.
I know I had another 1 that did
really well this week and I, I didn't
notice it for like, a whole day. And
I just logged on. Like, oh, wow. This
got a lot of use. What's going on
here. And, like, it's never the 1 and
I think is gonna do well by the
way. So I just stopped trying. So I've
looking through the comments, and the comments are
just a... Oh, my gosh. This is wonderful.
This is great. I love this. I agree.
And all really positive. And then you get
down lower into the beginning comments, and it
was all the this is crazy. Oh, you're
a white male. What do you know? All
this, you know, all this nasty trolling stuff.
And I'm just so appreciative of that. Now,
so Like, yeah. Thank you all for boosting
my video. Now it's reaching the people that,
you know, want it and connect with it,
but it's sort of, like that algorithm.
But is so much like
is so... I don't wanna say source like,
but it's so, like, universal creation.
And that you're getting what you're focusing on
in real time. And I noticed my feed
today. I was sitting relaxing and just kind
of thumb through. I don't know if you're
a Tiktok. And it was really political. I'm
like well, that's because I'm stopping and listening
to some of the stuff. I don't want
all these politics. So I went and watch,
like, house videos. Like, I wanna see more
about Spanish architecture. And then suddenly, everything's about
Spanish architecture. I'm like, oh, this is my
vibe. I love this so much better. And
that's and that's that's why people are getting
stuck because they they're cord in it. And
in in my books, I'm always... As you
would have noticed, there's places where there's questions.
Mh. And there's no.
It's it's it's kind of a living workbook.
Beauty is. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. At the
end of the in the end of the
podcast, we're gonna tell you already to get
her book by the way, everybody. Thank you.
Bye... Why don't take a quick break?
Yep. Go ahead. Finish your thought. And we'll
take a about. Oh, I was gonna say
the reason why I do that is so
that you're pulling more into your own individuality,
and you're pulling more into your own understanding.
But it is important to know it's gonna
keep moving. That's a good. It's a really
good teaching book. I could tell, by the
way you laid it out. And I I
spent 5 years writing the tire practice book.
And then at the last minute decided, you
know, I should put some extra exercises this
and it's a 4 and 76 page book.
And I'm preaching, you know, Not preaching, but
still, you know, I'm teaching the whole way,
but
stopping and putting the case studies in the
exercises, I think made... And it's it's very
well received now because I think we did
those things. So it's it's good that your
book has all of that like take this
and apply it to yourself
before you just race through the book because
these books you we... If we really resonate
with these books, going back to them again
and again and again is the way to
do it. Instead of, you know, putting that
down and saying, well, that didn't work and
move on to the next thing, no, everything
is the power that you give to it.
If this resonates with you stay with this
for a while.
Yeah. And even even what I do in
workshops as you start off with a questionnaire,
we do the workshop for 2 days. Then
you come back And the question is it's
written differently, but it's written the same. And
then you compare the 2 and you can
actually see how far you come.
And what you're... What what you have expanded
and what how your perceptions change and the
book is designed the same way. So you
can go back to any of those questions.
6 months, 2 weeks, whatever,
and and compare them. So you've got a
contrast and you can go, oh, okay. I
get this now.
So... And that's where I was. And that's
where I am. Just. Yeah. Yeah. Brand.
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Hello?
You have questions for us?
Yeah. I I'm on my podcast, I ask
every guest.
What does humanity need to acknowledge and understand
for us to evolve? So I'd really like
to know how you would answer that.
Our stock answer if you will would be
that humanity doesn't truly need to do anything.
You're you're going to evolve no matter what.
Your your evolution of consciousness is guaranteed because
of the polarity of your environment and and
the ever expansive
ego consciousness that humanity is created for itself.
All life is expansive
by nature. And even life that is dying
out is coming back as something that's perhaps
more suited and more efficient for the environment.
So you're your all internal beings,
and you're on this journey of expansion of
consciousness and in physical form, no matter what
you do in your physical journey, you're going
to expand your consciousness. So in that regard
there's no need, but we very well understand
that your question has a deeper
request than that.
So we will give you an answer. And
and the answer to that would be that
that you are all
d tuning the matrix of thought that you
have created for ourselves. Around the last 50
years in in in earthly time,
you have all started this what you may
have begun calling a a new age movement.
Where you were starting to question things that
that very much were were considered facts
with your parents and grandparents and so forth.
And in your collective questioning, you're exploring, and
you're exploring the energetic realm in different ways.
And you're coming to understand that a lot
of the things that were attached by humanity,
to the energetic realm or not necessarily so
and are certainly not necessarily serving you any
longer. You don't need these tools anymore. So
as you exit the matrix,
and you come to understand conscious creation, which
is how all creation occurs. And you come
to understand your unique independent nature in creating
your what you call life experience or your
reality,
1 of the the
functions of the matrix, which doesn't want to
be d tune even though you're all collectively
d tuning it via
communication and in the things that you've created
with technology that allow you to collectively get
together in question.
You're looking at things very differently, and and
you're looking at them differently and understanding them
on a deeper level,
you are causing them to fracture and sort
of fall away.
Because you're you're not fearing them anymore, you're
understanding them so deeply that they simply aren't
a factor for you. So as you do
this, and you have this journey out of
the matrix.
The function of the matrix that typically draws
you back in at this stage of awakening
as you call it
is the concern for others.
Yes, you create your own reality, and you
can allow your own well being regardless of
what's going on in the world around you,
but this
idea that humanity is created that you have
to be the savior of others that you
have to be concerned for them. And therefore,
you have to demon
any suffering they're experiencing.
That is that is the next thing To
give a singular answer. That is the next
thing for all of you that are on
our awakening journey is to understand that
allowing others to have their journey, whatever it
looks like to you without judgment. Or fear
on their behalf
is the path to mass awakening.
Because when you are
d tuning your life trans, and you are
making peace with wherever you've been and wherever
you are, you're raising your vibration. And doing
so, your life personally is just going to
get better and better and better. Abundance is
going to flow, well being is going to
flow,
love of everything that you are experiencing is
going to be a natural state, and it's
a glorious way to be as you well
know.
You want that for other beings
and we understand that. But in you're desi
that for other beings, when you slip into
the judgment
of what they're experiencing as this should not
be.
This war should not be. This genocide should
not be. This hunger should not be this
dirty water they're having to drink should not
be in your fierce judgment of those things,
you're actually fueling those things.
You are are inadvertently helping to create more
of that on their behalf. And you're bringing
some things like that into your own experience
when you do that.
So the the next the next frontier for
all of you that are at the forefront
of what you call awakening is to understand
that in your
appreciation of them and their experience.
As we appreciate them in their experience.
You are aligning with our energy, which is
healing, solving energy for all topics,
universally.
We we are often asked,
why do you allow such things to occur?
It is because we are not allowing it.
We are
understanding
that this ego driven experience that you're in
in this polarized environment
is create is is simply an experience. First
of all, and the creation of the physical
environment exists
so that you can separate so that you
can have a little bit of suffering as
you call it, and you can want for
something because as long as you're wanting for
something you're creating.
In your eternal state of consciousness you want
for nothing. It it is absolutely a glorious
way to be, but there's no expansion offered
in that. You spanned by coming into physical
life
situations. And in doing so,
experience polarity where your ego kicks in, and
you want something for yourself. You discern some
preferences you want to experience those things. You
are all of the earth environment, so you
love the earth environment. You love the elements
especially when you believe that you can experience
them. And so when you come and have
these experiences, yet, you have the illness or
the the poverty, or the
relationships that go sour on you and things
like this, and it creates a little suffering
a little disconnect. You you generally come through
that and out of That is your real
natural state to move through that experience come
out of it, and you can come out
of it, a more evolved being not only
as a human being, but an eternal friend
of consciousness and the having of that experience,
and especially in the solving of it. So
if you are believing that,
but the matrix is still drawing you back
in and your judgment of others experiences.
You're not allowing them to have their own
expansive journey.
Is that. That is the 1 thing.
But isn't it, like, if you're coming at
it from compassion
and kindness,
and you see someone suffering, if you're coming
from
that if, you know, if you can say
that pure intent if you're pure and. I
know we can think we're coming from compassion
and we're not.
But if you're coming from compassion and kindness,
isn't that part of the solution to,
seeing
especially mass suffering, you know,
like, people unjust like people
experiencing things that are completely out of their
control but causing them a lot of harm.
Isn't it through our compassion and kindness that
that can create a solution?
The solution would be created in that scenario.
And we will add here that when you
are operating in source consciousness primarily
with a little bit of ego in and
more source present.
We refer to this as is up your
spiral.
When you are that way, you are naturally
appreciative of all of their beings.
You are not concerned about being harmed by
them, you want the very best for them.
That that is that is to be expected
when you're up your spiral.
Because you you are
wanting
others to experience what you were experiencing,
but that desire is still has some ego
in it.
When you move even further up your spiral,
you can view and compassion still, but not
needing anything to change for them because you're
understanding that they are having their experience
and that their soul came here to have
the exact experience that they're having and even
in suffering they're expanding their consciousness.
And it really is about understanding that their...
The healing power is in the appreciation of
them
even in their experience of suffering.
Loving them,
wanting the very best for them.
Certainly, if you are guided to Lend a
hand in some way,
we are not going to judge that.
But the lending hand is in loving
appreciation of them even though they're in their
suffering experience,
knowing that they can pull themselves out of
it.
Knowing that moving through it even if they
don't physically survive it, their soul is eternal.
And they're ever hair having this temporary experience,
So it's the energy behind the compassion.
I I see you. I love you. I
want the very best for you.
I appreciate what you're experiencing now, and I
appreciate that you can make it a temporary
experience if if you deem so.
That is different energy than
that is so wrong, that is so terrible
that is so awful that shouldn't not be.
Those horrible people are doing this thing to
you. This is so unfair. The world is
terrible. Your vibration is going down and and
down and down when you're doing that, and
you don't have as much to offer in
lower vibration to anyone, as you do in
higher vibration. So help all you want, be
compassionate all you want. We are not here
against that certainly.
Just understand that that loving
appreciation of them,
even in their suffering state and focusing on
their well being,
is doing more for them and focusing on
their well being without need. We would guide
you to do the same thing focusing on
your well being without need because a need
is going to lower the vibration. Need is
going to be answered with more need as
you're well aware. So
think about the nuances of how you're feeling
in your compassion.
There is a compassion that is I love
you. I want the best for you. You
are having your expansive journey. You're having your
experience
you're moving through this experience and regardless of
the outcome, you are going to be an
expanded being in the process.
That is that is healing powerful energy. And
it is reverb out across humanity
across Earth and into the universe and and
helping more than you can even imagine.
Much more so than the judgment of what
1 is experiencing.
Yeah. I can follow that. So how is...
Are we
becoming...
I don't know. Are we becoming darker? Or
are we in general becoming lighter?
In in our
evolutionary process.
You are absolutely
ever becoming lighter.
Understand that your recorded histories
present to you
far more darkness
because that is appealing to you that that
fear mechanism is so well developed across humanity
at this time, and it does not have
to stay that way, but that fear mechanism
is so well developed. It is tripped when
you read something about the horrors of the
past or the horrors of the present,
and you are you are drawn to it,
and you're being drawn to it in judgment
of it is fueling more of it. That's
why it keeps reoccurring in your world.
You... Your personal life experience is a reflection
of humanity,
of the earth environment, end of the entire
universe.
So your personal life experience, you've all moved
through these down flow dark periods in your
lives.
And they can end you in physical, for
sure. They do not end you your eternal
consciousness at all. Your eternal consciousness does not
judge any of that. The dart period from
your sole perspective is an expansive period as
much as the the light high period where
you were at your very best from an
ego perspective.
So you're moving through these dark periods, and
you were able to in time usually look
back and say, that was hard to experience,
but I'm so glad that I did.
It expanded me. I'm wiser now. I'm smarter
now. I know what it's like when someone
else tells me they're suffering, I can identify
with that because I have suffered as well.
Take that and apply that to all of
humanity.
These dark periods that you speak of
exist to span, we often use the analogy
of think of a of a forest,
untouched by humanity that is completely self sufficient
and and in in a beautiful place,
yet, there is still going to be what
you might call contrast. The animals are eating
1 another. There's predatory practices going on in
nature of course. And storms are going to
come through and create destruction. But every time
the storm comes through and creates destruction, the
forest grows back more lush more green stronger
than ever the physical beings that perish, whether
it's through a storm or a predatory practice
or just through a natural death if there's
such a thing that in in that environment.
The the d physical vehicle feeds
the environment it fertilize fertilizer the environment.
Life feeds life in your world, but the
consciousness
behind all of that is eternal.
So when when a when a platform or
a life form is becomes prey for something
else or is destroyed in a storm,
The consciousness that creates that simply moves on
to another form, typically a more sophisticated form
because that's just the next logical step or
natural step in the journey?
Yeah. I like that. So what why do
we get so stuck? What what is the
cause of us
emotionally
and mentally getting stuck.
This this matrix of beliefs that humanity has
created.
That
there is absolutely nothing wrong with. The matrix
of beliefs as his humanity has created is
the very thing that propelled you to this
point where you're coming back around to what
you all knew all along.
You are the creators of reality that your
physical vehicle is simply an experience that you're
having, It is meant to have a a
beginning a middle in and end. There is
no right amount of time or right type
of experience to have in it. You're all
coming to understand that. But all of the
suffering and all of the structures and the
religions and the governments and all of the
things that you've been speaking about, those are
things that you all created to move you
here. And the reason that you are experiencing
such a magnificent time in your environment and
it's truly magnificent. We we are not judging,
but we are speaking in human terms.
That this is an interesting time for all
of you because your earth environment is maturing.
It's moving up
rapidly to this different level. And this different
level those of you that are listening to
things such as this are understanding it you're
feeling it. And you may be a little
challenge to fully comprehend it, but you're curious
you're drawn to it. There's a reason for
that. Your your soul is calling you into
it. Your soul is saying this way, this
way, come this way. This is where you're
heading. And all of the work that you've
done which includes all of your suffering experiences
and notice that many of you that are
at the forefront of thoughts such as this,
have had more suffering experiences than the typical
person often.
Your suffering experiences
made you question everything.
If if if my judgmental
loving God truly loves me, how did this
happen? Well, maybe it's not what it was
described as in in these Sunday school that
I attended.
Or or whatever it was, Whatever the scenario
is, you start questioning.
I am not the way that society tells
me I'm supposed to be what's wrong with
me. I feel different.
You're you're not different. You're just at a
different place in your journey than others are
at this time. But it takes that entire
spectrum
of beliefs to create the earth environment. Everything
from someone who believes in absolutely nothing to
someone who believes in an salute powerful vengeful
God and everything in between that entire spectrum
creates the environment. So you need the very
worst very most what what you may consider
evil, physical being and the most ben ambivalent
and everything in between that. You will always
have some version of that. No matter what
you do, but
how it plays out is going to continually
evolve. And what humanity is doing now that
is making this such a as we are
using your terms magnificent time
is because you are starting to create technology
in your own image.
Some of your books will say that God
created man in his own image.
There is some wisdom in that because now
you are the ones
becoming the gods of your world.
You are creating technology to serve you
And in creating this technology to serve you,
you are absolutely
changing your matrix
because your matrix is largely built on commerce,
which is created and built on exchange and
fear and judgment.
So you're wanting to move away from fear
and judgment and you were seeing the inequities
in the exchange system.
Because inevitably, with an ego driven consciousness and
and and all physical life has a version
of what you call ego, there's always going
to be someone who wants a little more.
Because you all want, You all want to
experience the earth environment. And if you tried
to flat line your vibration, that would be
the only path to true Utopia,
but that's not going to happen for you
by design because there's always going to be
1 being that clicks just 1 click up
and says yes, I want my...
My hut to be just a little bigger
than the hut next door. To be a
little nicer, a little newer. I I want
my physical vehicle to be a little more
appealing. Whatever it is, whatever it is. That's
all it takes to disrupt all of that,
and you were back in what you make
chaos once again. But it's not really chaos.
Everyone's experiencing their own version of this reality.
It's all being served up to you all
the time.
But now you've created,
and you have challenged yourself so much, and
you you have begun to collectively find
collective disdain for your system of commerce and
you're destroying it.
You're destroying it because you're creating technology that's
going to unemployed
most of humanity at some point. There is
nothing that your tu technology cannot replace you.
So is it going to truly replace you?
Or is it going to be in service
of you? That is up to all of
you. So this this changing, this becoming so
intelligent yourselves. That you are able to create
in your own image.
That is a massive energetic turning point for
your environment.
And we are guiding you to be thrilled
by this. We're not guiding you to fear
this. We are guiding you to the awareness
that you are becoming so aware of your
own ability to create consciously
that you don't need the old system of
exchange anymore, that you don't need to work
or or offer anything
to live a joyous abundant life.
And many of you are beginning to teach
yourselves that. You're allowing your abundance to flow
in magical ways that are not necessarily attached
to exchange.
And and that is where you're heading. So
you're going to break the system that has
broken you, and you're going to emerge from
that wiser beings in that process.
I like, break the system that's broken ass.
I like that. You needed to break yourselves
in order to to be forced to break
it. You... You... You you were a stubborn
lot. And that's not unusual. But sometimes you
have... And and this is true in your
personal life. Sometimes you have to get all
the way down to 0. At the edge
of the cliff, to allow the miracle to
actually trans. You don't have to do that,
but you do that for yourselves. You... But
but when you do though, you show yourselves
how powerful you are. We're guiding you to
understand that that works all the time on
all topics. The only reason that things don't
show up is because you still have some
disbelief to work on. But the work is
also your expansion of consciousness. So allow it
to take however long it takes, Just understand
that it's you doing it. It's always coming
in internally when you are prolong something or
you're suffering in something. It is always in
your mind is always your mindset every single
time.
K. Very interesting.
Yeah.
Thank you. We have shared quite a bit.
And and as always, we share a lot
of information a few words, and and we
guide you to go back and watch this
if you find it appealing again and again
and again, all of you that are listening
with much love.
That is what we have.
Thank you.
Good questions.
Interesting is interesting. And it is. For that,
but I don't 5 minutes or now Won't
remember any of.
Yeah. Oh, to be honest to me else
we, I'm gonna have to go back I
can listen to it too because I... Yeah,
just to to sort of sit
and and actually hear it without
still thinking. You know, and you you're thinking
just just to actually hear it. So... Well,
I like to say there was there was
something in there
that
you were challenged by
that their audience is going to be challenged
by 2, and you went deeper as... That's
why, like, interaction where there's follow up. With
the stream. I used to just come on
and just do this. Because excited know I
talked. I didn't know anybody and this is
why I first started the podcast in in
2017.
But when I started having en inclusive people
that would come on and challenge a little
bit and say, well, what about this? And
what about that? That's when I'm in the
background thinking Yeah. That's a great question because
we do need to address that for people.
I can remember...
And I'll tell you, I can explain why
I do that because
and then this is a pivot... You don't
have pivotal moments where you go, yeah. That's...
That makes sense.
I was in, Jack,
concentration camp,
of, back, you know,
25
years ago. And there was an ex american
cons soldier who was the tour guy. And
I happened to arrive, the day they had
their most visitors ever, and he crammed us
all into 1 of the
the places where the people slept,
and we're all crammed in it and any
and he just stood in the middle and
he didn't start talking
and everyone people were complaining and we're all
pushed up to together, and it was hot
and and sweaty. And and then he let
us go for a while, and then then
he said, oh, by the way, all of
you that are un uncomfortable comfortable. You can
leave at any time, the people that were
originally here, they couldn't.
And and
you know, and there was just as many
people crammed into here and, you know? So
he he lets you feel that. Mh. And
he and he had this I wish I
could repeat it because it was it was
funny, but
you said all you tree hug have... You
know, hip his. How did you think this
was going to stop?
If we didn't come in with some sort
of force.
And and it kind of put in perspective
for me, we can sit back and we
can say love and light.
But there also has to be an action
that says
due to compassion,
we can't stand still and watch these people
suffer. Now throughout the world we do.
And sometimes we do it with lip service,
you know, just with spin over the top
of it. And we're not really, you know,
getting in there and being honest about how
how humanity should be treating humanity. So that's
why I questioned on the
compassion. If we want change, how do we
create change? Yeah. Well it's and it's always
the... With
the source, it's always the energy behind everything.
Because we... Again, we're looking at it from
the ego perspective that these human beings
were suffering, and it's always disturbing anything around
the holocaust is always disturbing.
Of course, it is. Rounding up people. Should
be disturbed. Yeah. Yeah. You know, short.
It it know, this doesn't stop me for
being a disturbed by it. I'm not nearly
as a store as I used to be
though? Simply because, okay, this happened,
what's what's the energy of me sitting and
being disturbed by it and and judging it,
But I can certainly say that is absolutely
not my preference.
How do we shift the energy so that
that doesn't happen again?
And that's it. And that's that's where I
chime in with acceptance. You know what I
mean? Like? So when something's disturb us, to
me, that's our soul.
Recognizing we're hurting
another part of ourselves. If you wanna put
in that terminology,
but we're where, you know I look at
equality, it doesn't matter who you are, what
you where you're from,
what your... How much money you got your
bank account is an inequality between your soil
and I side we're the same.
So
So it's kind of, like, where where I
chime in, and it's like, I have to
allow myself to be disturbed because it's disturbing.
I don't have to wear it, and I
don't have to go or, you know,
you know, stand and, you know, due to,
you know, all that sort of thing
I've got be... But I've gotta be honest
about it. I've gotta be honest that this
is harmful,
and this is
hurting people.
And it's... My understanding is is the more
truthful and honest that I can be
and feel the truth of my feelings.
You know, that... That's really sad or that's,
you know,
disturbing.
Then then it will move
Right? But if I gloss over it,
what I'm really doing is suppressing the truth.
And whenever truth is suppressed,
change can't happen and
acceptance of reality doesn't occur, and that opens
up the field.
For lip service,
deception,
all those kind of things. That's just that's
how I see it. So I get
I get... That's that's why I challenged it
in the in new channel
because I wanted to hear what their perspective
of of that. Yeah. It's it's a different...
Yeah know, it's definitely not an Ego driven
perspective at all because the ego is, like,
we can't let that happen. We've gotta get
in there. And, you know, again, if somebody
were beating a dog up in front of
my house, I would go out and probably
beat the crap out of the person and
say to the dog Of course I would.
Of course I would. Yeah. But
how do you really solve these things? Because
we still
haven't solved genocide
we still haven't involved, you know, people being
enslaved and prison. That's still... That energy keeps
moving. Right? Like, we we might battle it
and kind of stop it out here and
then it just pops up over there. So
what their thing is is that
have your experience do what you do. And
if they're gonna have the experience of being
murdered in a concentration camp, there's nothing wrong
with sending in an army to
annihilate the people that are doing it because
it's it's, you know, it's the same. But
understand the bigger picture is they're are all
internal beings, they're all internal friends of here
having with temporary experience. And humanity will finally
move toward
understanding conscious creation in that
the real solving of that
is in the deeper understanding of it, not
the fear and judgment of it because a
lot of fear and judgment people never again,
never again, we can't let that happen all
I hear right now from, you know, I'm
a gay man. I live in a very,
promptly gay town, and everybody just keeps saying
this is, you know, this is Germany right
now happening the United States, This is the
Hitler playbook. They're gonna round all the gaze
up and put us in a concentration camp.
All this fear mon of around all of
the stu.
And I don't want any part that because
I'm like, I'm not going to c create
that. I'm not gonna create that. My well
being is a shirt, I would love to
be able to jump into that group and
say, hey, Guess what? All you have to
do is think that, you know, you're okay
and you'll be okay. I do believe in
that. I believe that, yeah, if it starts
looking... I I I'll be portable. I'll get
the hell out of here. But...
I see is created
can.
Yeah. What the matrix draws us in is
that I can't go say that to other
people at this point because not everybody is
in this mindset. They're gonna say what the
hell is wrong with you. And don't you
care about everybody else that's left behind. My
answer is yes, I do, but I know
s the fear and judgment is not the
path to solving that. Yeah. I agree with
that. Yeah. And and it is that... That's
why I say acceptance of reality and being
truthful,
feel of feelings. That is very different to,
you know,
jumping in and and saying this is what
we gotta do it. It's about really allowing
the truth of what we're experiencing.
To be witnessed by. I can't see it.
So... Talking about another phase of spirituality is
the phase where people think they have to
hide from everything. I don't watch the news.
I don't watch Tv. It's all evil. It's
all dark. I don't, I have to tune
this off and turn this off. I think
if that's your preference it's fine. I don't
watch much Tv myself, but
I don't think we should have to run
if you're really connected to source, sources and
all things.
Sources and the stuff that we don't like.
So
like you're saying, we we can't get out
and run from it and pretend like it
doesn't exist, Experience it, but try to experience
it from a higher perspective. So I haven't
visited a concentration camp.
You know, my
intention would be to visit it through the
high perspective of source as much as possible.
And when I feel myself dipping into the
judgment, which I'm sure those those places are
sort of telling you a version that won't
you to know how horrible it was. They
want you to experience that for a reason
to try to experience it from a higher
perspective
instead of just going into... Oh, this is
terrible. It was awful. And now I see
that happening over here, and we've gotta go
push against that and fight it. I do
think that that energy feeds it. And so
how do we shift? That's what this... That's
what source is saying is how do we
shift that energy? We're so
much awakening into our own ability to create
and we're getting it for ourselves independently,
But as a people, we've got a long
way to go but who start not d.
Yes we do. Yes. We do. We're slow
learners.
We are. And again, we make it... We
make it slow. We do it to ourselves.
So Lorraine told everybody where they can find
you in your book.
So.
Okay. Books... And multiple books,
evolution and awakened consciousness is the 1 that
is going to challenge
you to think and feel for yourself
I also have a book called breaking free,
breaking free from the chains of silence. That
is written.
From a sole perspective for people that have
been
sexually abused as children. And the idea is
to understand what you're dealing with. So... And
then there's another 1 coming out. That's a
good time for a lot of people. And
on are your books available on? The... Yeah.
On all all,
Amazon all leading things. And and the the
podcast is where I explore...
All different things like you could self and
and look at how do we evolve, How
do we resolve? How do we heal?
And how do we get really honest with
ourselves. So
I wanna thank you for having me as
a guest. I've really enjoyed yet again, another
conversation with Yeah. We... We could talk all
day for sure. Oh, what's the name of
your podcast real fast? Is
spiritual explorer. The right nominal spiritual explorer. Yeah
rain Nylon. Am I saying right? Yeah. Yeah.
You are saying perfectly.
I never asked you that. And it says
rain on the screen, but not. Yeah. So
thank you so much for being on. Thank
you for talking to the stream. It's always
fun to be able to channel for somebody
that that that has some really deep good
questions, and then you absolutely did.
And thank you all for listening. And if
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