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A discussion with Leon Grice on what the post-COVID world might look like and the importance of the NZ-US relationship.

Show Notes

This week I’m bringing you a discussion with Leon Grice, chair of the NZUS Council, businessman, former consular general in Los Angeles, a big thinker and big project specialist. 

In today's discussion we focus on New Zealand's international profile coming out of COVID, what will actually change in a post-COVID world, the areas he thinks need to be re-imagined, the trade and foreign policy challenges ahead of us, and current events in the US and why New Zealand's relationship with US remains vitally important. 

It is a thought-provoking, interesting and timely discussion.   

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About the NZUS Council
Established in 2001, we are a non-partisan, non-government organisation focused on advancing New Zealand’s interests in a strong bilateral relationship with the US.

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