WEBVTT 00:00:03.544 --> 00:00:08.644 You are listening to the USDN on the DFPN. 00:00:40.401 --> 00:00:41.027 Thanks for watching! 00:01:11.864 --> 00:01:13.545 what is up everybody it's 00:01:13.564 --> 00:01:14.784 the chairman of the united 00:01:14.825 --> 00:01:15.765 states department of nerds 00:01:15.784 --> 00:01:17.006 where we are for the people 00:01:17.445 --> 00:01:19.225 by the people and of the 00:01:19.245 --> 00:01:21.706 people and tonight we are 00:01:21.746 --> 00:01:23.287 doing it big and we're 00:01:23.387 --> 00:01:25.447 going hard for fight's 00:01:25.487 --> 00:01:27.087 grace as he gets ready to 00:01:27.128 --> 00:01:29.509 release issue number four 00:01:30.028 --> 00:01:32.170 of zip his comic 00:01:33.030 --> 00:01:35.210 that is a little about disabilities, 00:01:35.271 --> 00:01:39.054 but it's a great and fantastic read. 00:01:39.713 --> 00:01:40.515 I will swear on that. 00:01:40.575 --> 00:01:42.036 It is a fantastic read. 00:01:42.876 --> 00:01:44.117 Mike, how are you doing? 00:01:44.177 --> 00:01:46.177 I know we had you on not that long ago, 00:01:46.298 --> 00:01:47.118 and you were still working 00:01:47.138 --> 00:01:49.319 through some stuff to get this book live. 00:01:49.881 --> 00:01:51.141 And now we're about to go live. 00:01:51.180 --> 00:01:51.501 How's that? 00:01:51.641 --> 00:01:52.421 How's that feeling? 00:01:52.822 --> 00:01:53.362 It sounds great. 00:01:53.403 --> 00:01:54.063 And thank you for saying 00:01:54.102 --> 00:01:55.864 that it's a great read. 00:01:56.424 --> 00:01:56.825 It is, dude. 00:01:57.305 --> 00:01:58.385 I really enjoyed this one. 00:01:58.525 --> 00:01:59.947 It was good. 00:02:00.007 --> 00:02:01.548 Yeah, well, launch party! 00:02:09.004 --> 00:02:09.145 Wait, 00:02:09.185 --> 00:02:10.766 did I just kill the conversation by 00:02:10.806 --> 00:02:11.326 doing that? 00:02:12.949 --> 00:02:13.568 I had asked, 00:02:14.250 --> 00:02:15.110 now that you've got through 00:02:15.131 --> 00:02:16.973 all the stuff and everything, 00:02:17.513 --> 00:02:19.074 how does it feel to finally be here, 00:02:19.155 --> 00:02:20.116 getting ready to launch 00:02:20.336 --> 00:02:21.757 this issue finally? 00:02:21.796 --> 00:02:22.638 I know it was a little bit 00:02:22.777 --> 00:02:23.758 of a struggle there as you 00:02:23.778 --> 00:02:25.040 were trying to figure out dates. 00:02:26.322 --> 00:02:26.981 Now we're here. 00:02:27.082 --> 00:02:29.185 You're releasing tomorrow on Kickstarter. 00:02:30.455 --> 00:02:31.895 How we feeling, man? 00:02:31.915 --> 00:02:34.078 Yeah, dates are always tricky. 00:02:34.237 --> 00:02:37.060 I mean, I feel good, but, you know, I mean, 00:02:37.099 --> 00:02:38.320 it's my fourth Kickstarter, 00:02:38.341 --> 00:02:39.361 so really things are... 00:02:41.912 --> 00:02:43.052 you know, going to go fine. 00:02:43.453 --> 00:02:45.293 But Kickstarter is always, 00:02:45.932 --> 00:02:47.054 there's so much to think about. 00:02:47.074 --> 00:02:49.753 And, you know, 00:02:50.354 --> 00:02:51.395 it's sort of like a kind of 00:02:51.414 --> 00:02:52.854 thing where the next month 00:02:52.895 --> 00:02:53.914 of my life is just going to 00:02:53.955 --> 00:02:56.515 be nothing but Kickstarter, Kickstarter, 00:02:56.536 --> 00:02:57.235 Kickstarter. 00:02:57.656 --> 00:02:58.776 And that can be a bit daunting. 00:02:59.616 --> 00:03:00.497 It's thirty days. 00:03:02.217 --> 00:03:03.858 So I know a lot of people 00:03:03.877 --> 00:03:04.858 don't really understand that. 00:03:05.497 --> 00:03:07.699 It's thirty days to get the book funded, 00:03:07.758 --> 00:03:08.579 start to finish. 00:03:09.932 --> 00:03:10.813 then after that there's 00:03:10.913 --> 00:03:14.516 usually um some type of 00:03:14.977 --> 00:03:16.579 they have like reach goals 00:03:16.598 --> 00:03:17.819 I don't know if you're are 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:18.759 you doing reach goals on 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:20.020 this one or I think you 00:03:20.061 --> 00:03:21.141 might be so well they are 00:03:21.582 --> 00:03:22.723 so I think you might be if 00:03:22.743 --> 00:03:24.264 you're talking about after 00:03:24.305 --> 00:03:26.225 the campaign ends yeah yeah 00:03:26.286 --> 00:03:27.867 yeah so if you end early 00:03:28.367 --> 00:03:29.049 and then there's certain 00:03:29.088 --> 00:03:30.270 other goals that you can oh 00:03:30.289 --> 00:03:32.211 okay all right so see I 00:03:32.230 --> 00:03:32.812 thought you were talking 00:03:32.852 --> 00:03:34.013 about late pledges for a 00:03:34.092 --> 00:03:36.495 second there there's like pledges as well 00:03:36.895 --> 00:03:37.235 All right. 00:03:37.514 --> 00:03:37.996 So no, no. 00:03:38.015 --> 00:03:38.776 So the campaign, 00:03:39.216 --> 00:03:41.257 if the if the campaign meets its goal, 00:03:42.177 --> 00:03:43.397 it doesn't technically end. 00:03:43.437 --> 00:03:45.899 It continues until the thirty days are up. 00:03:45.939 --> 00:03:46.319 But yeah, 00:03:46.340 --> 00:03:47.800 some people will do stretch goals 00:03:48.281 --> 00:03:51.861 where they will do a set of goals that 00:03:53.323 --> 00:03:54.965 uh you can unlock by going 00:03:55.064 --> 00:03:57.447 above the um the target 00:03:57.486 --> 00:04:00.368 goal um I generally don't 00:04:00.449 --> 00:04:01.629 tend to do stretch goals 00:04:01.650 --> 00:04:03.651 myself because if you 00:04:03.692 --> 00:04:04.632 actually look into 00:04:04.692 --> 00:04:05.893 kickstarter's official 00:04:05.932 --> 00:04:07.395 advice they advise against 00:04:07.435 --> 00:04:10.717 doing stretch goals um it's basically 00:04:11.818 --> 00:04:13.459 because stretch goals incur 00:04:13.519 --> 00:04:15.780 like additional costs um 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:17.000 and essentially like I mean 00:04:17.100 --> 00:04:18.382 if you've pledged to a 00:04:18.401 --> 00:04:19.622 kickstarter that has made 00:04:19.661 --> 00:04:21.122 its goal you're still going 00:04:21.142 --> 00:04:22.744 to get rewards uh and 00:04:22.764 --> 00:04:23.324 you're still going to 00:04:23.345 --> 00:04:25.064 support the project that's 00:04:25.105 --> 00:04:28.627 being funded um so it's you 00:04:28.646 --> 00:04:29.447 know I mean you're just 00:04:29.487 --> 00:04:30.949 gonna get the rewards that 00:04:30.968 --> 00:04:32.829 you pledged for I mean if I 00:04:32.970 --> 00:04:36.271 if we went massively over the um 00:04:37.608 --> 00:04:38.809 uh the goal amount I have 00:04:38.869 --> 00:04:40.410 had you know ideas about 00:04:40.591 --> 00:04:41.851 things we may do for that 00:04:42.391 --> 00:04:43.713 but generally speaking I 00:04:43.733 --> 00:04:45.134 haven't done stretch goals 00:04:45.173 --> 00:04:46.814 in the past just because 00:04:47.516 --> 00:04:48.617 they're they can be a bit 00:04:48.677 --> 00:04:51.759 more um logistically uh 00:04:51.778 --> 00:04:54.360 difficult to pull off than 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:56.523 you might imagine uh and I 00:04:56.543 --> 00:04:57.423 wouldn't want to let anyone 00:04:57.463 --> 00:04:58.903 down so I try to keep 00:04:58.944 --> 00:04:59.985 things realistic as to what 00:05:00.045 --> 00:05:00.946 I can actually fulfill 00:05:03.153 --> 00:05:03.653 Gotcha. 00:05:03.975 --> 00:05:04.654 So real quick, 00:05:04.815 --> 00:05:06.257 let's go back to your beginning. 00:05:06.276 --> 00:05:07.437 I know we talked about this 00:05:07.458 --> 00:05:10.339 a little bit when we had you on last time, 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:13.642 but just real quick, 00:05:14.043 --> 00:05:15.845 what got you into writing comics? 00:05:17.706 --> 00:05:23.471 Well, I mean, a number of things, really. 00:05:23.492 --> 00:05:24.413 The one and only. 00:05:26.100 --> 00:05:29.463 I've always been a writer 00:05:29.502 --> 00:05:30.524 ever since I was small. 00:05:30.543 --> 00:05:34.185 When I was very, very young, I would ask, 00:05:34.547 --> 00:05:35.627 how do you make a book? 00:05:36.168 --> 00:05:37.389 And my parents would explain 00:05:37.408 --> 00:05:41.071 it to me in terms of binding a book. 00:05:41.091 --> 00:05:42.012 They didn't realize I was 00:05:42.112 --> 00:05:44.112 asking how you write one. 00:05:46.127 --> 00:05:49.228 I learned that you could be 00:05:49.247 --> 00:05:51.809 creative for a living from my dad, 00:05:52.348 --> 00:05:54.348 who was working for a 00:05:54.389 --> 00:05:58.209 company called CMTB at the time. 00:05:59.810 --> 00:06:01.211 They were a studio who made 00:06:01.451 --> 00:06:03.651 a British TV show called The Trap Door. 00:06:04.471 --> 00:06:05.612 And they did a few other things, 00:06:05.673 --> 00:06:06.673 but The Trap Door is what 00:06:06.773 --> 00:06:08.593 people know them for the most. 00:06:09.514 --> 00:06:12.353 And he went from that studio 00:06:12.394 --> 00:06:13.675 to a few other studios 00:06:14.654 --> 00:06:15.435 and eventually ended up 00:06:15.475 --> 00:06:17.276 working for Artman Animations. 00:06:18.377 --> 00:06:19.677 He was a model reg 00:06:19.798 --> 00:06:21.678 technician for a long time. 00:06:22.500 --> 00:06:24.901 That is because it's stop 00:06:24.940 --> 00:06:26.581 motion and they're working with models. 00:06:28.103 --> 00:06:29.803 Anytime the model leaves the 00:06:29.824 --> 00:06:33.206 ground or has maybe like a 00:06:33.245 --> 00:06:34.245 position they're in where 00:06:34.305 --> 00:06:36.387 it's difficult to keep them balanced, 00:06:37.588 --> 00:06:38.369 they would need to build 00:06:38.468 --> 00:06:40.529 like a rig to hold the model up. 00:06:41.310 --> 00:06:42.391 And my dad was in charge of 00:06:42.550 --> 00:06:43.692 building those rigs. 00:06:43.872 --> 00:06:45.553 And the other thing was that 00:06:45.853 --> 00:06:46.673 you would have to try and 00:06:46.735 --> 00:06:47.795 hide them from the camera 00:06:47.834 --> 00:06:48.675 as much as possible. 00:06:49.216 --> 00:06:49.896 Because, yeah, 00:06:50.637 --> 00:06:51.838 the more you hide them from the camera, 00:06:51.858 --> 00:06:52.699 the less they have to take 00:06:52.718 --> 00:06:53.360 them out in post. 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:56.622 So he worked on Chicken Run. 00:06:56.682 --> 00:06:58.624 He worked on the Wallace and 00:06:58.644 --> 00:06:59.564 Gromit feature film. 00:06:59.605 --> 00:07:01.125 He worked on Pirates and Adventure. 00:07:02.586 --> 00:07:03.408 Wallace and Gromit is 00:07:03.468 --> 00:07:04.869 probably hands down one of 00:07:05.149 --> 00:07:06.269 the best ones ever done. 00:07:07.509 --> 00:07:08.870 I still need to watch the new one. 00:07:09.250 --> 00:07:10.091 I know there's a new one. 00:07:10.411 --> 00:07:11.451 It was delayed a couple of 00:07:11.471 --> 00:07:12.512 years because they couldn't 00:07:12.531 --> 00:07:14.213 get the correct modeling 00:07:14.252 --> 00:07:15.634 clay during COVID. 00:07:15.653 --> 00:07:17.334 Oh, yeah. 00:07:17.415 --> 00:07:19.175 So I know it's out now. 00:07:19.235 --> 00:07:20.697 I just need to sit down and watch it. 00:07:20.716 --> 00:07:21.658 But Wallace and Gromit's 00:07:21.718 --> 00:07:22.377 always been one of my 00:07:22.418 --> 00:07:23.579 favorite stop motions. 00:07:23.598 --> 00:07:25.379 That's out, period. 00:07:25.980 --> 00:07:27.961 Outside of some of the other things, 00:07:27.980 --> 00:07:28.601 you know, but... 00:07:31.324 --> 00:07:33.125 If you watch Curse of the 00:07:33.146 --> 00:07:35.165 Were-Rabbit and A Matter of 00:07:35.225 --> 00:07:35.906 Life and Death, 00:07:35.947 --> 00:07:37.906 you'll see my dad's name in the credits. 00:07:37.927 --> 00:07:39.166 Curse of the Were-Rabbit is 00:07:39.807 --> 00:07:40.827 probably one of my favorite 00:07:40.848 --> 00:07:42.728 Wallace and Gromits. 00:07:43.168 --> 00:07:43.947 I actually did work 00:07:43.987 --> 00:07:45.269 experience on that myself. 00:07:45.889 --> 00:07:46.468 That's really dope. 00:07:46.928 --> 00:07:47.908 I'm not in the credits, 00:07:47.968 --> 00:07:50.250 but I shot some animatics on it. 00:07:51.209 --> 00:07:52.930 That's really cool, man. 00:07:52.971 --> 00:07:54.031 My dad taught me that it was 00:07:54.091 --> 00:07:56.250 possible to create things for a living. 00:07:57.132 --> 00:07:58.432 That's basically how I ended up 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:00.600 you know, 00:08:00.620 --> 00:08:01.901 wanting to write things and 00:08:02.901 --> 00:08:04.922 essentially just the 00:08:05.101 --> 00:08:06.601 natural progression followed from there, 00:08:06.622 --> 00:08:09.944 really. 00:08:09.963 --> 00:08:10.903 That's really cool, dude. 00:08:11.543 --> 00:08:12.644 Kelvin, appreciate you, man. 00:08:12.684 --> 00:08:13.725 Kickstarter interviews are 00:08:13.745 --> 00:08:15.125 probably one of my favorite 00:08:15.425 --> 00:08:16.826 interviews to do. 00:08:17.466 --> 00:08:18.326 And the fact that we're 00:08:18.346 --> 00:08:19.387 getting to follow up with 00:08:19.447 --> 00:08:20.607 Mike the day before the 00:08:20.646 --> 00:08:21.947 release is something really 00:08:22.007 --> 00:08:23.548 special for me. 00:08:24.327 --> 00:08:25.088 And it's awesome that he 00:08:25.209 --> 00:08:26.629 asked to come back and kick 00:08:26.649 --> 00:08:28.569 this off the proper way and kind of 00:08:29.721 --> 00:08:31.060 Bring something new, man. 00:08:31.641 --> 00:08:32.601 It's really dope. 00:08:34.602 --> 00:08:38.683 So do you have any characters or moment or, 00:08:38.783 --> 00:08:39.423 like, 00:08:39.443 --> 00:08:40.745 did you base any of your characters 00:08:40.784 --> 00:08:43.525 from Zip on real people that you knew or, 00:08:43.625 --> 00:08:45.125 like, seen on TV? 00:08:45.166 --> 00:08:47.386 Like, how did you go about that? 00:08:47.907 --> 00:08:48.267 Yeah, I mean, 00:08:48.346 --> 00:08:50.668 it's like you kind of have to 00:08:50.988 --> 00:08:57.010 base your characters on – 00:08:55.211 --> 00:08:57.552 something um so if you look 00:08:57.633 --> 00:09:00.154 at uh I mean a lot of the 00:09:00.414 --> 00:09:01.796 moments in the comic are 00:09:01.895 --> 00:09:02.956 inspired by things that 00:09:02.976 --> 00:09:04.138 have really happened to me 00:09:04.577 --> 00:09:07.279 um like if you look at in 00:09:07.299 --> 00:09:08.620 the second issue when mr 00:09:08.701 --> 00:09:11.023 untouchable is talking as a 00:09:11.062 --> 00:09:13.725 child uh talking to his 00:09:14.085 --> 00:09:16.547 like head teacher um about 00:09:16.567 --> 00:09:17.447 you know his bullying and 00:09:17.467 --> 00:09:18.509 stuff and the head teacher 00:09:18.528 --> 00:09:19.590 doesn't believe him there's 00:09:19.610 --> 00:09:21.010 a moment where um mr 00:09:21.051 --> 00:09:22.491 untouchable says will you look at me 00:09:23.011 --> 00:09:24.251 And I based that on the fact 00:09:24.272 --> 00:09:25.572 that a lot of times when 00:09:25.753 --> 00:09:26.972 I'm out with my partner or 00:09:27.013 --> 00:09:28.734 I'm out with somebody and I 00:09:28.754 --> 00:09:30.653 mentioned that like I'm visually impaired, 00:09:32.394 --> 00:09:33.514 the moment they hear that, 00:09:33.534 --> 00:09:34.535 they'll start talking to 00:09:34.556 --> 00:09:36.855 the other person instead of me, 00:09:36.975 --> 00:09:39.277 as if I can't, you know, 00:09:39.297 --> 00:09:40.177 as if I'm not intelligent 00:09:40.236 --> 00:09:42.557 enough to understand, you know, 00:09:42.758 --> 00:09:43.477 what's going on. 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:46.639 And so I wrote that in 00:09:46.658 --> 00:09:47.840 because you often find like 00:09:47.860 --> 00:09:48.720 as a disabled person, 00:09:49.460 --> 00:09:51.681 that people will treat the 00:09:51.721 --> 00:09:52.822 person you're with as like 00:09:52.841 --> 00:09:54.602 a carer automatically even 00:09:55.602 --> 00:09:57.764 if they're not you know um 00:09:57.783 --> 00:09:58.965 so that's one thing I kind 00:09:59.024 --> 00:10:00.525 of based that on real life 00:10:00.546 --> 00:10:01.927 experiences but speaking 00:10:01.966 --> 00:10:03.748 about mr untouchable I mean 00:10:03.908 --> 00:10:05.067 he's the premise of him is 00:10:05.107 --> 00:10:06.208 that he's a martial artist 00:10:06.229 --> 00:10:07.649 who's so good at martial 00:10:07.710 --> 00:10:09.730 arts that um as long as he 00:10:09.770 --> 00:10:11.251 sees an attack coming he 00:10:11.272 --> 00:10:13.613 can always evade or counter it 00:10:14.472 --> 00:10:15.573 I kind of base that a little 00:10:15.594 --> 00:10:16.734 bit on a friend of mine who 00:10:16.774 --> 00:10:17.754 I used to do martial arts 00:10:17.794 --> 00:10:19.355 with who wasn't very good 00:10:19.395 --> 00:10:21.356 at taking a punch, so he just got very, 00:10:21.376 --> 00:10:22.758 very good at avoiding them. 00:10:24.158 --> 00:10:24.379 Hey, 00:10:25.259 --> 00:10:27.679 that's the best way to do it right there. 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:27.980 Yeah. 00:10:28.640 --> 00:10:29.160 That is the best way. 00:10:29.782 --> 00:10:31.042 He was like, I don't know, 00:10:31.062 --> 00:10:32.663 like some kind of like a 00:10:32.702 --> 00:10:33.442 pigeon or something. 00:10:33.484 --> 00:10:33.724 You know, 00:10:34.344 --> 00:10:35.904 there's no way you can sneak up on them. 00:10:35.924 --> 00:10:40.647 Hey, you don't want to get punched. 00:10:40.667 --> 00:10:41.748 That's the best way to do it. 00:10:42.227 --> 00:10:42.889 Yeah, ideally. 00:10:42.908 --> 00:10:43.168 Ideally. 00:10:44.238 --> 00:10:45.740 Real quick, Mike, 00:10:46.541 --> 00:10:47.903 for new readers who are 00:10:47.942 --> 00:10:51.767 just now be discovering Zip, 00:10:52.248 --> 00:10:55.351 what's the quick elevator pitch for Zip? 00:10:55.831 --> 00:10:56.873 Sell it to everybody. 00:10:57.734 --> 00:10:57.934 Well, 00:10:58.534 --> 00:11:00.216 Zip is a comic about imperfect 00:11:00.258 --> 00:11:00.817 superhumans. 00:11:01.767 --> 00:11:03.349 Or is it because there is an 00:11:03.408 --> 00:11:04.610 outside chance that it 00:11:04.650 --> 00:11:06.614 might secretly be about disability? 00:11:07.434 --> 00:11:09.118 So it uses superhumans as an 00:11:09.217 --> 00:11:11.961 analogy for disabilities. 00:11:13.143 --> 00:11:14.765 So it takes a look at the 00:11:14.806 --> 00:11:17.328 human body and the delicate balance 00:11:17.970 --> 00:11:20.211 that allows the human belly to function. 00:11:20.892 --> 00:11:23.193 And it's like when you take 00:11:23.293 --> 00:11:25.514 one thing and change it, 00:11:25.695 --> 00:11:27.716 that balance gets thrown out of whack. 00:11:28.157 --> 00:11:29.677 And that counts even when 00:11:30.999 --> 00:11:32.460 those things are superpowers. 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:35.001 So our main character, Zip, 00:11:35.221 --> 00:11:36.201 she has super speed, 00:11:36.682 --> 00:11:38.024 but she also has super 00:11:38.423 --> 00:11:39.904 reflexes because you need 00:11:40.105 --> 00:11:42.767 super reflexes to cope with it. 00:11:43.628 --> 00:11:44.729 And it means that the entire 00:11:44.769 --> 00:11:45.610 rest of the world is moving 00:11:45.629 --> 00:11:47.231 in slow motion from her perspective. 00:11:47.292 --> 00:11:53.480 So everybody else sounds like this, 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:54.821 making it very difficult 00:11:54.841 --> 00:11:55.501 for her to have a 00:11:55.562 --> 00:11:56.623 conversation with anyone. 00:11:58.044 --> 00:11:59.966 She's also got an accelerated heart rate, 00:11:59.986 --> 00:12:00.947 which gives her the energy 00:12:00.967 --> 00:12:02.910 she would need to be super fast. 00:12:04.427 --> 00:12:07.090 And that essentially just 00:12:07.129 --> 00:12:08.610 means that her heart is 00:12:09.272 --> 00:12:10.513 working on borrowed time. 00:12:10.533 --> 00:12:12.214 She's got like a reduced lifespan. 00:12:12.254 --> 00:12:13.875 She's only going to live to around fifty. 00:12:15.379 --> 00:12:16.500 And all kinds of things like 00:12:16.539 --> 00:12:18.299 that and every superhuman 00:12:18.340 --> 00:12:19.220 in this world has 00:12:19.259 --> 00:12:21.760 complications Based on 00:12:21.780 --> 00:12:23.402 their powers that kind of 00:12:23.442 --> 00:12:24.981 make their powers as much 00:12:25.022 --> 00:12:26.162 of disability as it is a 00:12:26.222 --> 00:12:28.043 power It's kind of 00:12:28.082 --> 00:12:29.023 basically like if you've 00:12:29.043 --> 00:12:29.943 ever played that game with 00:12:29.964 --> 00:12:30.903 your friends where somebody 00:12:30.943 --> 00:12:32.303 suggests a superpower And 00:12:32.323 --> 00:12:33.205 then somebody else finds a 00:12:33.225 --> 00:12:38.485 way to mess it up Yes, 00:12:38.546 --> 00:12:40.326 well I made a comic out of that game 00:12:41.760 --> 00:12:43.644 So real quick, Kelvin asks, 00:12:45.167 --> 00:12:46.509 how have you been able to 00:12:46.629 --> 00:12:50.996 use your disability as a strength? 00:12:51.678 --> 00:12:54.222 Well, I mean, I think that... 00:12:56.129 --> 00:12:59.832 Being blind, and when I say blind, 00:12:59.873 --> 00:13:00.894 I mean most people don't 00:13:00.913 --> 00:13:02.576 realize that the majority 00:13:02.615 --> 00:13:04.857 of blind people have some vision. 00:13:05.938 --> 00:13:08.160 Not every blind person is totally blind. 00:13:08.181 --> 00:13:11.965 We typically have some useful vision. 00:13:15.287 --> 00:13:17.929 The way I have found it is 00:13:17.950 --> 00:13:20.152 basically because I look at 00:13:20.172 --> 00:13:20.972 things differently, 00:13:21.072 --> 00:13:23.575 I can kind of see things 00:13:23.595 --> 00:13:25.937 visually and come up with 00:13:25.977 --> 00:13:26.999 ideas that maybe other 00:13:27.019 --> 00:13:27.779 people wouldn't just 00:13:27.820 --> 00:13:30.802 because I have to get 00:13:30.842 --> 00:13:32.965 closer to things to see them, 00:13:33.205 --> 00:13:34.706 to read and things like that. 00:13:35.408 --> 00:13:36.548 And I may kind of like... 00:13:37.625 --> 00:13:38.525 You know, I mean, 00:13:38.686 --> 00:13:39.905 I'm not as susceptible to 00:13:40.027 --> 00:13:42.227 optical illusions as other people are, 00:13:42.268 --> 00:13:44.048 for one thing, because, you know, 00:13:44.149 --> 00:13:46.029 I just don't... I'm looking 00:13:46.070 --> 00:13:46.770 at them closer, 00:13:46.831 --> 00:13:48.631 and I'm not looking at them 00:13:48.731 --> 00:13:50.753 at the right distance to be 00:13:51.033 --> 00:13:52.673 caught out from the optical illusions. 00:13:53.195 --> 00:13:54.375 Oh, and the other thing is, 00:13:54.434 --> 00:13:55.615 I don't have any irises. 00:13:55.816 --> 00:13:57.417 I have a condition called aniridia, 00:13:58.378 --> 00:14:00.119 so I was born with irises. 00:14:00.198 --> 00:14:01.539 I just have giant pupils. 00:14:02.780 --> 00:14:04.562 No colour in my eye whatsoever. 00:14:05.341 --> 00:14:05.961 Still wild. 00:14:07.043 --> 00:14:11.690 Yeah, so essentially I have, like, 00:14:12.150 --> 00:14:13.192 my vision is twice as 00:14:13.231 --> 00:14:14.374 bright as everyone else's, 00:14:14.453 --> 00:14:16.297 so I have better low light 00:14:16.317 --> 00:14:17.458 vision than anyone you've ever met. 00:14:19.607 --> 00:14:21.269 The man is seeing like a cat 00:14:21.328 --> 00:14:22.908 walking into a dark room. 00:14:23.149 --> 00:14:24.889 Yeah, well, it's a very rare condition. 00:14:24.929 --> 00:14:26.350 So unless you've met someone 00:14:26.390 --> 00:14:27.451 else with Aniridia that 00:14:27.510 --> 00:14:28.510 doesn't have any irises, 00:14:28.571 --> 00:14:29.892 some people with Aniridia 00:14:29.951 --> 00:14:32.993 have small irises, but some leftover, 00:14:33.013 --> 00:14:33.993 but I don't have any at all. 00:14:34.494 --> 00:14:35.894 So unless you've met anyone 00:14:36.014 --> 00:14:37.315 else who doesn't have any irises, 00:14:37.394 --> 00:14:38.414 you probably haven't met 00:14:38.475 --> 00:14:39.875 anyone in your life. 00:14:39.895 --> 00:14:42.035 I personally have not until I met you, 00:14:42.076 --> 00:14:42.756 good sir. 00:14:43.697 --> 00:14:45.778 And I'm happy to have met 00:14:45.798 --> 00:14:46.658 you and happy that you're 00:14:46.677 --> 00:14:48.418 here and sharing Zip with us. 00:14:49.231 --> 00:14:50.893 So without spoilers, 00:14:52.095 --> 00:14:53.696 how does issues one through 00:14:53.735 --> 00:14:55.697 three set the stage for 00:14:55.738 --> 00:14:56.979 what's coming up next? 00:14:59.020 --> 00:15:00.922 I think that at the moment, 00:15:01.062 --> 00:15:03.784 the arc we're on is kind of 00:15:04.946 --> 00:15:08.249 openings it up to other people. 00:15:09.269 --> 00:15:10.530 When we meet her in the comics, 00:15:10.571 --> 00:15:11.751 she is kind of very 00:15:11.871 --> 00:15:13.192 insulated in her own world. 00:15:15.979 --> 00:15:17.980 The reason being that the 00:15:18.019 --> 00:15:19.721 world wasn't designed for superhumans. 00:15:20.621 --> 00:15:21.881 And so she kind of has her 00:15:22.022 --> 00:15:23.984 own little safe space that she lives in, 00:15:24.844 --> 00:15:28.365 like a comfort space where 00:15:28.405 --> 00:15:29.706 everything is kind of... 00:15:30.918 --> 00:15:33.679 know set up her way um you 00:15:33.700 --> 00:15:35.519 know she she has she takes 00:15:35.539 --> 00:15:37.441 these jobs that uh you know 00:15:37.461 --> 00:15:38.520 she tries to muddle through 00:15:39.041 --> 00:15:41.201 um because she needs money 00:15:41.221 --> 00:15:42.562 to live but essentially you 00:15:42.581 --> 00:15:43.881 know any other time she can 00:15:43.942 --> 00:15:45.222 she's out doing the 00:15:45.263 --> 00:15:47.023 superhero thing because in 00:15:47.062 --> 00:15:49.083 this world you know doing 00:15:49.124 --> 00:15:50.224 the superhero thing is what 00:15:50.464 --> 00:15:51.683 makes people with 00:15:51.724 --> 00:15:54.004 superpowers feel like they have a purpose 00:15:54.825 --> 00:15:58.708 um but as time goes on in 00:15:58.729 --> 00:15:59.990 the comic she's going to 00:16:00.009 --> 00:16:01.990 find she's finding herself 00:16:02.672 --> 00:16:05.413 uh kind of running into 00:16:05.455 --> 00:16:07.917 people and meeting people 00:16:08.017 --> 00:16:09.618 and kind of coming out of 00:16:09.638 --> 00:16:11.360 that comfort space and 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.822 possibly finding that um 00:16:15.756 --> 00:16:19.500 that there may be a place 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:21.162 for her outside of this 00:16:21.221 --> 00:16:22.363 comfort space as well. 00:16:23.323 --> 00:16:23.943 However, 00:16:24.465 --> 00:16:27.167 there are dangers to her leaving that 00:16:28.686 --> 00:16:30.346 you know, leaving her comfort zone. 00:16:31.547 --> 00:16:33.707 And they come in a very 00:16:34.107 --> 00:16:37.149 literal way in the form of 00:16:37.190 --> 00:16:38.289 Pinstripe and Dog's Body, 00:16:38.330 --> 00:16:39.890 the two mysterious lab 00:16:39.931 --> 00:16:41.471 technicians who have been stalking her, 00:16:42.392 --> 00:16:43.192 but possibly some 00:16:43.231 --> 00:16:44.613 metaphorical ways as well. 00:16:46.173 --> 00:16:50.095 Now, Zip is gaining something to lose. 00:16:50.735 --> 00:16:54.216 So, well, time will tell if she loses it. 00:16:54.236 --> 00:16:55.477 I'll say that. 00:16:57.797 --> 00:16:59.076 I enjoyed issue four. 00:17:00.457 --> 00:17:01.937 Actually, I've enjoyed reading all four. 00:17:02.538 --> 00:17:02.979 Thank you. 00:17:03.019 --> 00:17:05.078 So what's something that 00:17:05.138 --> 00:17:07.059 readers often miss on the 00:17:07.140 --> 00:17:08.400 first read-through that you 00:17:08.460 --> 00:17:11.901 wish they would have caught? 00:17:12.060 --> 00:17:14.021 Oh, I don't really know. 00:17:14.041 --> 00:17:15.142 I mean – 00:17:15.900 --> 00:17:17.280 That's a good question. 00:17:17.921 --> 00:17:19.241 I actually I did see a 00:17:19.281 --> 00:17:22.002 review I did see a review 00:17:22.702 --> 00:17:24.864 that that's that said So 00:17:24.903 --> 00:17:26.164 that summarized the plot 00:17:26.585 --> 00:17:27.164 and then they said 00:17:27.204 --> 00:17:29.705 something very interesting about what? 00:17:30.066 --> 00:17:31.467 Spin-striping dog's body 00:17:31.487 --> 00:17:34.208 were after and I'm not sure 00:17:34.228 --> 00:17:35.608 if I can really mention it 00:17:35.648 --> 00:17:38.009 because It might give away spoilers, 00:17:38.029 --> 00:17:39.349 but basically this reviews 00:17:39.529 --> 00:17:40.611 might give spoilers. 00:17:40.651 --> 00:17:40.671 I 00:17:41.242 --> 00:17:42.583 Well, 00:17:43.183 --> 00:17:45.443 I'll say it because I don't think it 00:17:45.463 --> 00:17:46.785 will give away too much. 00:17:46.904 --> 00:17:49.565 But what I will say is that 00:17:50.045 --> 00:17:51.726 I spread a review that said 00:17:52.766 --> 00:17:54.027 that Pinstripe and Dog's 00:17:54.047 --> 00:17:57.007 Body are looking for Zip 00:17:57.027 --> 00:18:00.587 because they are after her power. 00:18:01.749 --> 00:18:02.469 They're looking for Zip 00:18:02.489 --> 00:18:03.528 because they're after her power. 00:18:03.548 --> 00:18:06.990 And I sat there and go, ah, there you are. 00:18:07.849 --> 00:18:09.750 I wonder if that is true. 00:18:12.409 --> 00:18:13.009 We do see that. 00:18:13.048 --> 00:18:14.910 Interesting interpretation. 00:18:15.270 --> 00:18:16.050 You do see that. 00:18:16.151 --> 00:18:16.912 We do see that, yeah. 00:18:17.551 --> 00:18:18.553 Do you, though? 00:18:20.597 --> 00:18:22.719 As good as I can. 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:24.299 That's as much as I'm going to say. 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.161 You know, I have the E version. 00:18:26.201 --> 00:18:27.541 I have to zoom it in to like 00:18:27.721 --> 00:18:29.462 one twenty five to read script. 00:18:30.683 --> 00:18:32.825 So you may you may see that, 00:18:32.904 --> 00:18:34.705 but it may be that I am 00:18:35.266 --> 00:18:36.866 leading you down the garden path. 00:18:36.906 --> 00:18:37.688 I don't know if you have 00:18:37.728 --> 00:18:41.088 that expression on in America, 00:18:41.148 --> 00:18:43.790 but that may be a bit of a misdirection. 00:18:44.804 --> 00:18:46.144 Okay. 00:18:46.204 --> 00:18:46.904 I like it. 00:18:46.984 --> 00:18:47.846 I like it. 00:18:47.905 --> 00:18:49.787 So, you know, 00:18:50.067 --> 00:18:51.188 pay attention and stay on 00:18:51.208 --> 00:18:52.387 your toes because that 00:18:52.448 --> 00:18:55.349 might be a little red herring. 00:18:56.150 --> 00:18:58.192 I do like a good swerve in a comic book. 00:18:59.311 --> 00:19:01.753 So let's continue on with this. 00:19:01.794 --> 00:19:05.776 So disability in fiction 00:19:06.036 --> 00:19:08.817 often falls into these harmful tropes. 00:19:09.417 --> 00:19:10.357 What are some of the key 00:19:10.397 --> 00:19:13.099 things that you didn't want to do in Zip? 00:19:14.243 --> 00:19:15.644 Oh, with the disabilities. 00:19:16.605 --> 00:19:16.884 Yeah, 00:19:16.904 --> 00:19:18.546 so you know how sometimes in 00:19:18.586 --> 00:19:20.186 television and comics, 00:19:20.227 --> 00:19:21.326 sometimes they're created, 00:19:21.528 --> 00:19:22.407 they fall into this, 00:19:23.048 --> 00:19:25.429 like you were saying earlier, 00:19:25.469 --> 00:19:26.930 where people, instead of talking to you, 00:19:26.950 --> 00:19:28.211 they talk to your partner. 00:19:28.330 --> 00:19:29.411 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:19:29.431 --> 00:19:30.011 You know what I'm saying? 00:19:30.051 --> 00:19:31.031 So what are some of the 00:19:31.051 --> 00:19:33.472 things that you didn't want to do in Zip? 00:19:33.492 --> 00:19:34.614 Like some of the things that 00:19:34.653 --> 00:19:35.894 you kind of avoided because 00:19:35.913 --> 00:19:38.415 you didn't want that in your book. 00:19:38.496 --> 00:19:39.036 Right, yeah. 00:19:39.096 --> 00:19:40.676 I mean, there are a few. 00:19:40.696 --> 00:19:42.917 As a kid, I often noticed, like, you know, 00:19:43.815 --> 00:19:45.076 Whenever a disabled 00:19:45.096 --> 00:19:46.217 character would come up in 00:19:46.237 --> 00:19:48.738 a TV show or something, 00:19:48.798 --> 00:19:49.919 it was always a pay party 00:19:49.939 --> 00:19:51.019 and that kind of annoyed me. 00:19:51.420 --> 00:19:52.861 There is something that a lot of 00:19:54.653 --> 00:19:57.135 I find a lot of fiction and 00:19:57.155 --> 00:19:59.797 TV shows and movies do with 00:19:59.817 --> 00:20:00.738 disabled characters. 00:20:01.077 --> 00:20:02.659 And it's funny because we've 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:04.079 now unfortunately come to 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:05.941 the part of the show where 00:20:06.020 --> 00:20:07.701 I am forced to praise the 00:20:07.741 --> 00:20:09.022 Big Bang Theory because 00:20:09.063 --> 00:20:10.384 there was actually a funny 00:20:10.443 --> 00:20:12.565 bit that I had to give credit for. 00:20:13.025 --> 00:20:13.546 There was a bit... 00:20:14.425 --> 00:20:17.667 Big Bang deserves all the 00:20:17.688 --> 00:20:18.509 credit in the world. 00:20:18.669 --> 00:20:20.109 That's one of my favorite shows. 00:20:20.369 --> 00:20:21.330 Okay, well, fair enough. 00:20:21.631 --> 00:20:22.511 I know that it's not very 00:20:22.551 --> 00:20:23.291 popular these days, 00:20:23.311 --> 00:20:24.472 but there's one bit where 00:20:24.553 --> 00:20:26.775 Penny goes... There was one 00:20:26.795 --> 00:20:30.557 bit in the show where Penny goes, oh, 00:20:30.596 --> 00:20:31.698 she's got... I think she 00:20:31.738 --> 00:20:32.598 might have actually said 00:20:32.618 --> 00:20:33.439 the word handicapped. 00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:35.121 I think she said, oh, she's handicapped. 00:20:35.461 --> 00:20:36.340 She must be nice. 00:20:36.662 --> 00:20:37.342 And I thought that was 00:20:37.382 --> 00:20:39.384 really funny because there 00:20:39.423 --> 00:20:40.683 is often this weird... 00:20:41.644 --> 00:20:42.806 um assumption that like 00:20:42.846 --> 00:20:43.787 disabled people just 00:20:43.907 --> 00:20:44.969 automatically just like 00:20:45.108 --> 00:20:47.211 angelic can do no wrong and 00:20:47.351 --> 00:20:49.232 you know that we're all 00:20:49.252 --> 00:20:50.515 just I've met a few rude 00:20:50.615 --> 00:20:52.636 ones oh yeah no I know but 00:20:52.696 --> 00:20:53.778 like it's just weird that 00:20:53.877 --> 00:20:55.940 that I I see that trope in 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:59.284 a lot of um yeah movies you 00:20:59.304 --> 00:21:00.744 know it's one of those like 00:21:00.826 --> 00:21:01.926 it's penny being penny 00:21:03.932 --> 00:21:06.194 Yeah, no, but I did... The earlier seasons, 00:21:06.275 --> 00:21:08.576 Penny, like in the later series, 00:21:08.656 --> 00:21:11.660 Penny was more mature and grown up. 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:13.740 Well, sure. 00:21:13.760 --> 00:21:14.922 I don't remember where it was, 00:21:14.981 --> 00:21:17.605 but I thought it was funny 00:21:17.625 --> 00:21:19.086 that they pointed out that 00:21:19.125 --> 00:21:21.327 that was a trope because I 00:21:21.347 --> 00:21:22.269 haven't really seen anyone 00:21:22.308 --> 00:21:23.990 else point that out. 00:21:24.009 --> 00:21:25.431 That's a good one. 00:21:25.491 --> 00:21:26.712 It just happened to reference one of my 00:21:27.474 --> 00:21:29.675 my all-time faves okay wow 00:21:29.776 --> 00:21:32.778 okay um and uh yeah I mean 00:21:32.798 --> 00:21:33.617 that that kind of thing 00:21:33.637 --> 00:21:35.459 just like um and then 00:21:35.479 --> 00:21:36.519 there's also just sort of 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:37.920 the ones where I was on 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:39.080 another podcast talking 00:21:39.121 --> 00:21:41.082 about daredevil recently 00:21:41.142 --> 00:21:43.643 where um you know kind of 00:21:43.663 --> 00:21:45.044 like sometimes they'll give 00:21:45.064 --> 00:21:46.105 a character a disability 00:21:46.125 --> 00:21:47.805 and then they won't really 00:21:47.846 --> 00:21:48.945 give them that disability 00:21:49.886 --> 00:21:52.268 um the character will just kind of have 00:21:53.393 --> 00:21:54.452 Disabilities sort of like an 00:21:54.472 --> 00:21:55.534 almost a specific thing, 00:21:55.574 --> 00:21:57.054 but it won't really affect anything. 00:21:57.334 --> 00:21:57.513 Yeah, 00:21:57.794 --> 00:21:59.295 which daredevil were you talking about? 00:21:59.674 --> 00:22:01.295 Oh the the two thousand and 00:22:01.355 --> 00:22:03.816 free one I'm terrible at 00:22:03.855 --> 00:22:04.596 remembering actors. 00:22:04.635 --> 00:22:08.156 Yeah I'm more like current stuff. 00:22:08.176 --> 00:22:09.636 I haven't really dived back 00:22:09.698 --> 00:22:11.478 into any of the early two 00:22:11.498 --> 00:22:13.638 thousand stuff yet however, 00:22:13.679 --> 00:22:14.558 I did just to finish 00:22:14.618 --> 00:22:21.121 reading the Daredevil which one was it? 00:22:21.260 --> 00:22:22.040 All right shite 00:22:23.057 --> 00:22:24.038 I am very out of the loop 00:22:24.057 --> 00:22:26.179 with mainstream Marvel stuff. 00:22:26.199 --> 00:22:27.819 Yeah, and I'm brain farting. 00:22:28.140 --> 00:22:29.461 But it was another one of 00:22:29.500 --> 00:22:31.560 those where Elektra picked 00:22:31.621 --> 00:22:33.001 up the mantle of the 00:22:33.041 --> 00:22:35.923 Daredevil because the real Daredevil, 00:22:37.104 --> 00:22:38.044 he couldn't get out of his 00:22:38.144 --> 00:22:39.243 own way to be Daredevil, basically. 00:22:39.263 --> 00:22:41.404 Right. 00:22:41.424 --> 00:22:44.105 But the writer, the artists, 00:22:44.226 --> 00:22:46.727 everybody was just spot on on that one. 00:22:47.827 --> 00:22:48.028 But... 00:22:49.813 --> 00:22:51.394 So you're still going, 00:22:51.934 --> 00:22:54.436 Mercosia is still your publisher. 00:22:54.777 --> 00:22:56.097 Yeah. 00:22:56.317 --> 00:23:01.721 And how's the relationship with them and, 00:23:02.482 --> 00:23:03.864 and using Kickstarter to 00:23:04.344 --> 00:23:05.664 like to fund the comic. 00:23:05.826 --> 00:23:07.446 And so how, how, what, 00:23:07.586 --> 00:23:09.228 like what's that relationship like? 00:23:11.769 --> 00:23:14.271 Cause I know you're published by them, 00:23:15.053 --> 00:23:16.074 but in terms of like the 00:23:16.134 --> 00:23:17.694 Kickstarter and stuff like that, how, 00:23:17.734 --> 00:23:18.796 how does that work with them? 00:23:19.468 --> 00:23:19.887 Yeah, 00:23:20.188 --> 00:23:24.330 Marcosia will help us to advertise 00:23:24.371 --> 00:23:26.913 the Kickstarters intermittently. 00:23:29.114 --> 00:23:31.115 We'll send off maybe a design, 00:23:31.134 --> 00:23:32.836 because now that we're published by them, 00:23:33.215 --> 00:23:34.797 previously our merchandise 00:23:34.817 --> 00:23:35.538 didn't really have 00:23:36.438 --> 00:23:37.259 uh their logo on it because 00:23:37.439 --> 00:23:38.179 it was before we were 00:23:38.199 --> 00:23:39.220 published by them but now 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:41.901 it is so um for continuity 00:23:41.921 --> 00:23:42.761 reasons you know I've been 00:23:42.922 --> 00:23:45.123 adding the marcosia logo to 00:23:45.202 --> 00:23:47.364 our merch uh so I've needed 00:23:47.403 --> 00:23:49.244 to contact them just to 00:23:49.265 --> 00:23:50.165 make sure that they're okay 00:23:50.185 --> 00:23:51.145 with the way that I've used 00:23:51.226 --> 00:23:54.048 it um and essentially I mean 00:23:54.907 --> 00:23:56.808 I mostly handle everything myself. 00:23:57.509 --> 00:23:58.690 They will advertise when I 00:23:58.710 --> 00:24:00.250 send an important link their way. 00:24:01.171 --> 00:24:02.652 But once the comic's 00:24:02.672 --> 00:24:05.093 fulfilled and we get the 00:24:05.113 --> 00:24:06.554 backers their comic, 00:24:06.614 --> 00:24:08.233 I'll send it off to Marcosia. 00:24:08.354 --> 00:24:09.634 I do always make sure that 00:24:10.234 --> 00:24:11.036 our backers get their 00:24:11.076 --> 00:24:13.237 digital copy before I send 00:24:13.257 --> 00:24:14.336 it off to Marcosia so 00:24:14.356 --> 00:24:15.137 they've got it first. 00:24:16.077 --> 00:24:17.939 And then Marcosia puts it on 00:24:17.979 --> 00:24:19.779 their various e-reader 00:24:19.819 --> 00:24:22.080 marketplaces and we go from there. 00:24:23.540 --> 00:24:24.102 Eventually, 00:24:24.162 --> 00:24:26.501 we are building towards a 00:24:26.821 --> 00:24:28.803 volume one trade paperback. 00:24:31.663 --> 00:24:32.864 But that's in the future. 00:24:32.884 --> 00:24:34.265 I don't exactly know how 00:24:34.285 --> 00:24:35.005 that's going to work just 00:24:35.045 --> 00:24:35.984 yet because we haven't done it. 00:24:36.005 --> 00:24:36.085 Yeah. 00:24:36.105 --> 00:24:39.987 Okay. 00:24:40.007 --> 00:24:43.107 So for this one, what can... 00:24:45.250 --> 00:24:46.891 fans that spent in issue 00:24:46.951 --> 00:24:49.092 four I've read it I know 00:24:49.112 --> 00:24:50.133 there's some cool twists 00:24:50.173 --> 00:24:52.834 coming and some tone shift 00:24:52.953 --> 00:24:54.134 I know there's we get to 00:24:54.275 --> 00:24:55.414 introduce to some of the 00:24:55.474 --> 00:24:57.276 new superheroes that that 00:24:57.296 --> 00:24:58.297 are kind of a part of this 00:24:58.336 --> 00:25:01.638 big superhero teams I guess 00:25:01.659 --> 00:25:02.219 that you could say they 00:25:02.239 --> 00:25:04.279 were teams well I'd say 00:25:04.299 --> 00:25:06.601 it's more of a community really yeah yeah 00:25:08.277 --> 00:25:11.640 mean uh we are we learn 00:25:11.660 --> 00:25:13.780 about a like a bar like a 00:25:13.862 --> 00:25:16.042 superhero bar yeah I really 00:25:16.063 --> 00:25:17.364 like that scene in that 00:25:17.423 --> 00:25:19.465 issue I saw I've met you 00:25:19.486 --> 00:25:20.426 know kind of wrote in the 00:25:20.446 --> 00:25:21.607 script that this place is a 00:25:21.627 --> 00:25:22.828 little bit like a gay bar 00:25:23.489 --> 00:25:25.871 um kind of tucked away um 00:25:25.891 --> 00:25:28.633 uh like like a gay bar may 00:25:28.653 --> 00:25:30.335 have been uh you know in 00:25:30.394 --> 00:25:31.855 like the seventies and things when 00:25:32.516 --> 00:25:34.156 you know, it was, you know, 00:25:34.176 --> 00:25:35.076 illegal to be gay. 00:25:36.798 --> 00:25:37.778 And so, you know, 00:25:37.798 --> 00:25:39.317 they were usually quite hidden away. 00:25:40.098 --> 00:25:40.358 But that's, 00:25:40.398 --> 00:25:42.098 this is all part of the whole 00:25:42.318 --> 00:25:43.940 breaking zip out of her comfort zone, 00:25:44.099 --> 00:25:45.079 having her meet people. 00:25:45.980 --> 00:25:47.441 So that's one aspect of the plot. 00:25:47.580 --> 00:25:48.661 Another aspect of the plot 00:25:48.740 --> 00:25:53.042 is like a time travel, kind of. 00:25:53.083 --> 00:25:56.443 Yeah, that little section was really cool. 00:25:57.825 --> 00:25:58.265 Oh, yeah. 00:25:58.384 --> 00:25:58.625 Well, 00:25:59.105 --> 00:26:02.948 the story with time travel is 00:26:03.009 --> 00:26:04.630 actually based upon the 00:26:05.589 --> 00:26:09.573 real-life testimonies of an 00:26:09.692 --> 00:26:12.615 ex-con who served a life 00:26:12.654 --> 00:26:13.996 sentence for stabbing 00:26:14.036 --> 00:26:16.458 someone as a teenage boy. 00:26:17.258 --> 00:26:21.520 So all of the stuff that the 00:26:21.560 --> 00:26:24.303 characters talk about in 00:26:24.343 --> 00:26:25.864 the comic related to that 00:26:26.203 --> 00:26:27.125 is essentially like, 00:26:28.164 --> 00:26:29.605 based on notes that I made 00:26:31.307 --> 00:26:33.426 from this news article I 00:26:33.487 --> 00:26:35.587 read about this ex-con. 00:26:36.848 --> 00:26:37.788 So it's all kind of like 00:26:37.888 --> 00:26:39.750 authentically kind of 00:26:39.769 --> 00:26:40.990 researched from what this 00:26:41.050 --> 00:26:41.810 ex-con was saying. 00:26:44.178 --> 00:26:44.758 And, of course, 00:26:44.959 --> 00:26:46.400 Pinstripe and Dog's Body are back. 00:26:47.040 --> 00:26:48.461 They're the ones that 00:26:48.501 --> 00:26:50.263 spearhead the whole time 00:26:50.284 --> 00:26:52.586 travel science fiction 00:26:52.645 --> 00:26:53.567 aspect of the story. 00:26:54.507 --> 00:26:55.508 So you've got essentially 00:26:55.808 --> 00:26:58.411 three aspects of Pinstripe 00:26:58.431 --> 00:27:00.573 and Dog's Body and them 00:27:00.613 --> 00:27:02.114 having kind of like a 00:27:02.134 --> 00:27:02.934 little bit of trouble in 00:27:02.974 --> 00:27:04.957 paradise where Pinstripe 00:27:05.176 --> 00:27:06.178 feels like he's moving up 00:27:06.218 --> 00:27:06.858 in the world and 00:27:07.713 --> 00:27:08.914 Dog's body's getting fed up with him. 00:27:09.575 --> 00:27:10.895 And them going off and doing 00:27:10.915 --> 00:27:12.076 their time travel experiment. 00:27:13.436 --> 00:27:15.258 Zip breaking out of her 00:27:15.298 --> 00:27:17.419 comfort zone and finding a 00:27:17.439 --> 00:27:19.681 community in the superhero 00:27:19.701 --> 00:27:20.881 bar known as The Lair. 00:27:21.421 --> 00:27:24.202 And this teenage boy 00:27:24.222 --> 00:27:24.762 who's... I like that name. 00:27:24.782 --> 00:27:25.243 It's perfect. 00:27:25.263 --> 00:27:27.424 The Lair. 00:27:27.825 --> 00:27:29.006 Yeah, I know. 00:27:29.125 --> 00:27:30.465 I was quite pleased with that one. 00:27:31.326 --> 00:27:32.326 If I don't say so myself. 00:27:32.647 --> 00:27:32.867 Actually, 00:27:32.887 --> 00:27:34.868 the one I was really pleased with myself, 00:27:34.888 --> 00:27:35.328 I thought I... 00:27:37.349 --> 00:27:38.050 there would be you know 00:27:38.070 --> 00:27:38.892 because obviously like how 00:27:38.912 --> 00:27:39.834 do all these superheroes 00:27:39.874 --> 00:27:41.796 now how to sew costumes and 00:27:41.817 --> 00:27:42.897 how do they know how to do 00:27:42.917 --> 00:27:44.220 this and that and so I was 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:45.201 like wouldn't it be funny 00:27:45.221 --> 00:27:46.563 if if there were like a 00:27:47.223 --> 00:27:49.166 like a zine that they all 00:27:49.227 --> 00:27:49.988 circulated amongst 00:27:50.028 --> 00:27:50.949 themselves and this is how 00:27:50.989 --> 00:27:51.851 they learn all this stuff 00:27:51.871 --> 00:27:52.912 they got their own end now 00:27:53.673 --> 00:27:55.993 Yeah. 00:27:56.015 --> 00:27:57.654 The Incredibles had Edna in 00:27:57.695 --> 00:27:59.076 the sense that she was like 00:27:59.096 --> 00:27:59.817 a fashion designer, 00:27:59.836 --> 00:28:01.137 but they're all doing it at home. 00:28:02.778 --> 00:28:05.099 But the way that they 00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:06.201 distribute information on 00:28:06.300 --> 00:28:07.961 how to do all this stuff is 00:28:08.001 --> 00:28:08.922 through just like a zine, 00:28:08.942 --> 00:28:10.083 like a newsletter. 00:28:10.643 --> 00:28:12.403 And I called the zine in 00:28:12.423 --> 00:28:16.026 this world the Caped News Aider. 00:28:16.046 --> 00:28:19.347 Oh, I like it. 00:28:19.407 --> 00:28:20.568 I was really pleased with that one. 00:28:22.924 --> 00:28:24.046 I forgot I think I was 00:28:24.086 --> 00:28:25.106 saying oh yeah well I was 00:28:25.126 --> 00:28:26.107 just capping off to say 00:28:26.147 --> 00:28:27.929 like you know the the third 00:28:28.009 --> 00:28:29.089 element of this story is 00:28:29.690 --> 00:28:30.770 zip breaking out of her 00:28:30.790 --> 00:28:31.691 comfort zone and meeting 00:28:31.711 --> 00:28:36.154 this community I like it I 00:28:36.174 --> 00:28:37.715 love a good pun on anything 00:28:38.336 --> 00:28:39.957 so given this is going to 00:28:39.977 --> 00:28:41.417 be your fourth kit starter 00:28:41.438 --> 00:28:42.638 that you're launching how 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:44.480 did you use lessons learned 00:28:44.500 --> 00:28:46.061 from the third one other 00:28:46.102 --> 00:28:48.002 from the first three going 00:28:48.042 --> 00:28:48.983 into this fourth one 00:28:51.077 --> 00:28:51.598 Yeah, I mean, 00:28:52.038 --> 00:28:55.561 I think that when it comes to 00:28:55.662 --> 00:29:01.926 our reward tier for getting 00:29:01.946 --> 00:29:03.188 your name into the comic, 00:29:03.749 --> 00:29:04.990 that can always be a bit of 00:29:05.150 --> 00:29:07.711 a tricky thing when we're 00:29:07.731 --> 00:29:08.531 doing fulfillment, 00:29:08.571 --> 00:29:10.614 because if we don't catch 00:29:10.773 --> 00:29:12.154 our letter of Theron when 00:29:12.255 --> 00:29:13.977 he has some free time, 00:29:14.978 --> 00:29:15.778 it can actually take quite 00:29:15.798 --> 00:29:17.038 a while to get the whole 00:29:17.058 --> 00:29:18.220 thing fulfilled after the 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:19.000 campaign's over. 00:29:19.761 --> 00:29:20.143 Um, 00:29:20.182 --> 00:29:22.185 so I always try and make sure to get as 00:29:22.266 --> 00:29:24.871 much work completed with him before, um, 00:29:25.050 --> 00:29:26.753 as possible so that, um, 00:29:27.214 --> 00:29:28.356 we can kind of trying to 00:29:28.376 --> 00:29:30.059 breeze through that, um, uh, 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:31.663 when the campaign's over. 00:29:32.278 --> 00:29:34.441 I am kind of debating maybe 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:35.803 whether we should continue 00:29:36.282 --> 00:29:37.023 doing that reward. 00:29:37.064 --> 00:29:38.325 I mean, I'm doing it for this one. 00:29:38.746 --> 00:29:39.605 I'm not going to change 00:29:40.166 --> 00:29:43.810 things so close to lunch date. 00:29:43.891 --> 00:29:44.151 Yeah, 00:29:44.211 --> 00:29:45.932 but I think I want to get people's 00:29:46.452 --> 00:29:48.454 opinion on this as to whether, you know, 00:29:48.474 --> 00:29:49.236 they really want it to 00:29:49.276 --> 00:29:50.718 continue or if they'd 00:29:50.778 --> 00:29:53.961 rather we let you do a poll on it. 00:29:56.459 --> 00:29:56.898 Yeah, well, 00:29:56.999 --> 00:29:58.220 maybe there's something for us 00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:00.201 to talk about once the campaign's over, 00:30:00.482 --> 00:30:02.023 because if we talk about it 00:30:02.064 --> 00:30:03.586 while it's live, it's almost kind of like, 00:30:03.605 --> 00:30:06.949 oh, it's poo-pooing our own reward. 00:30:06.969 --> 00:30:08.711 Yeah, you don't want to do that. 00:30:08.730 --> 00:30:10.071 I mean, I love doing the reward. 00:30:10.153 --> 00:30:11.794 It's just that I do wonder 00:30:11.913 --> 00:30:14.998 about the fact that it does 00:30:15.077 --> 00:30:16.038 mean that we have to 00:30:17.115 --> 00:30:18.880 delay part of making the 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:20.703 comic until the Kickstarter 00:30:20.743 --> 00:30:21.645 campaign's over, 00:30:22.868 --> 00:30:25.674 which does slow down fulfillment. 00:30:26.155 --> 00:30:27.679 Yeah, especially when you've got to 00:30:28.253 --> 00:30:30.454 know a penciler or a letter 00:30:30.515 --> 00:30:32.276 that's busy in other work 00:30:32.316 --> 00:30:35.657 as well yeah so that could 00:30:35.678 --> 00:30:36.738 be something that uh we 00:30:36.778 --> 00:30:37.578 might need to think about 00:30:37.618 --> 00:30:40.160 going forward but uh I I've 00:30:40.180 --> 00:30:41.941 uh taken on your feedback 00:30:42.040 --> 00:30:42.980 actually from the last time 00:30:43.020 --> 00:30:44.201 we spoke you mentioned that 00:30:44.221 --> 00:30:44.942 you'd be interested in a 00:30:45.001 --> 00:30:47.083 t-shirt and uh I know I've 00:30:47.202 --> 00:30:48.943 seen that dude that was I 00:30:49.064 --> 00:30:52.445 love that like the the 00:30:52.546 --> 00:30:54.106 picture on the t-shirt 00:30:55.017 --> 00:30:56.778 that was really dope that is 00:30:56.798 --> 00:30:59.381 uh francesco tomaselli's uh 00:30:59.421 --> 00:31:00.923 cover art for our third 00:31:01.002 --> 00:31:02.584 issue uh and that was 00:31:02.663 --> 00:31:04.105 really great uh we put that 00:31:04.145 --> 00:31:05.247 on quite a lot of stuff 00:31:05.287 --> 00:31:07.368 because it was really uh 00:31:07.388 --> 00:31:09.651 she's a brilliant brilliant artist too 00:31:10.689 --> 00:31:14.053 Yeah, he is a brilliant idea. 00:31:15.473 --> 00:31:16.174 Francesco is, 00:31:16.796 --> 00:31:18.176 I think you may have heard Francesca, 00:31:18.277 --> 00:31:18.998 but no, Francesco. 00:31:19.018 --> 00:31:20.880 Yeah, yeah, okay. 00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:23.522 Yeah, he's great. 00:31:24.564 --> 00:31:27.606 So, I mean, yeah, so I mean, 00:31:27.626 --> 00:31:28.448 basically you mentioned 00:31:28.468 --> 00:31:29.128 that you'd be interested in 00:31:29.148 --> 00:31:30.390 a t-shirt and one of my 00:31:30.410 --> 00:31:31.510 personal friends said that 00:31:31.530 --> 00:31:32.852 they might be interested in a t-shirt. 00:31:33.593 --> 00:31:34.173 And, I mean, 00:31:34.234 --> 00:31:35.616 I've never really had people 00:31:36.137 --> 00:31:37.460 coming to me with specific 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.582 requests before. 00:31:38.602 --> 00:31:40.444 You know, I always tend to be the one. 00:31:41.547 --> 00:31:42.509 That's what I do. 00:31:42.568 --> 00:31:43.390 I just toss ideas out. 00:31:43.430 --> 00:31:45.914 Some stick, some don't. 00:31:47.096 --> 00:31:48.436 yeah well I mean so we've 00:31:48.457 --> 00:31:50.258 got the t-shirt um and 00:31:50.278 --> 00:31:51.638 because it's kickstarter we 00:31:51.659 --> 00:31:53.900 can kind of like um ask 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:55.480 people what sizes they want 00:31:56.060 --> 00:31:57.382 and then you know print 00:31:57.402 --> 00:31:58.343 whatever sizes are in 00:31:58.383 --> 00:31:59.702 demand so we don't have to 00:31:59.742 --> 00:32:02.964 like guess what sizes yeah 00:32:03.265 --> 00:32:04.165 we don't have to guess what 00:32:04.226 --> 00:32:05.386 sizes it'd be kind of cool 00:32:05.406 --> 00:32:06.027 to take those to 00:32:06.047 --> 00:32:07.307 conventions with you as well 00:32:07.788 --> 00:32:08.248 Yeah. 00:32:08.327 --> 00:32:08.769 Well, I mean, 00:32:08.808 --> 00:32:09.808 it's a little bit of a shame really, 00:32:09.828 --> 00:32:10.670 because we're doing a 00:32:10.710 --> 00:32:11.951 convention while the 00:32:11.971 --> 00:32:15.252 campaign's in process, uh, progress and, 00:32:15.432 --> 00:32:16.032 um, 00:32:16.093 --> 00:32:18.034 we won't have the t-shirts ready for them, 00:32:18.474 --> 00:32:20.476 but hopefully by the next, uh, 00:32:20.496 --> 00:32:21.696 convention we do, we'll, 00:32:21.737 --> 00:32:22.656 we'll have t-shirts and we 00:32:22.696 --> 00:32:24.317 can actually wear them 00:32:24.377 --> 00:32:25.739 while we're at the store. 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:27.779 Nice bit of advertisement for us. 00:32:27.921 --> 00:32:29.361 That's why I rock my, my, 00:32:29.421 --> 00:32:31.282 my chairman t-shirts everywhere. 00:32:31.542 --> 00:32:31.823 Yeah. 00:32:32.693 --> 00:32:34.035 I don't go out in public often, 00:32:34.055 --> 00:32:35.395 but when I do go out in public, 00:32:35.915 --> 00:32:37.778 I'm rocking a USDN chairman shirt. 00:32:37.798 --> 00:32:37.897 Yeah. 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:42.080 Shout out to Khan's Custom 00:32:42.121 --> 00:32:43.761 Creations for the hookup. 00:32:46.344 --> 00:32:50.406 But, see, let's remind everybody, 00:32:51.288 --> 00:32:54.410 the Kickstarter starts tomorrow. 00:32:55.393 --> 00:32:57.713 The sixteenth of September, everybody, 00:32:57.773 --> 00:32:58.694 the sixteenth. 00:32:58.775 --> 00:32:59.954 Add that to your calendars. 00:33:00.796 --> 00:33:01.955 Make yourself a note. 00:33:02.497 --> 00:33:04.698 I've added that link to the 00:33:04.758 --> 00:33:05.979 Kickstarter prelaunch, 00:33:05.999 --> 00:33:06.719 which will become the 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.861 launch under all my ads 00:33:10.020 --> 00:33:13.122 I've done for this interview tonight. 00:33:13.481 --> 00:33:14.603 So if you just go click on 00:33:14.682 --> 00:33:16.064 any of my social media posts, 00:33:16.544 --> 00:33:17.984 go down to the Kickstarter link. 00:33:19.137 --> 00:33:20.298 Create an account if you got 00:33:20.338 --> 00:33:21.460 to and make sure you're 00:33:21.500 --> 00:33:24.060 back in this book because it's a really, 00:33:24.101 --> 00:33:25.182 really good one to back. 00:33:26.823 --> 00:33:27.663 Thank you. 00:33:27.683 --> 00:33:29.003 Go on, Onets. 00:33:30.105 --> 00:33:31.766 I think I asked you this last time, but... 00:33:33.463 --> 00:33:35.484 What's your writing workflow like? 00:33:35.505 --> 00:33:36.664 Do you like to do your full 00:33:36.684 --> 00:33:38.305 script and then art, 00:33:38.365 --> 00:33:38.904 or do you like to 00:33:38.924 --> 00:33:40.286 collaborate all at the same 00:33:40.326 --> 00:33:41.746 time with your writer? 00:33:42.727 --> 00:33:45.826 You don't use colors, not your writer, 00:33:45.846 --> 00:33:47.208 but your artist and your 00:33:47.548 --> 00:33:48.768 letter and that kind of stuff, 00:33:48.847 --> 00:33:50.788 or you just write it out and send it off? 00:33:50.808 --> 00:33:51.108 I mean, 00:33:51.288 --> 00:33:53.009 I write a script to begin with from 00:33:53.068 --> 00:33:54.009 start to finish, 00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:57.651 but then we'll send it off. 00:33:58.030 --> 00:33:59.790 We've got an editor who will 00:34:00.671 --> 00:34:02.332 typically give me a few little notes 00:34:04.061 --> 00:34:06.003 we'll polish after that. 00:34:06.644 --> 00:34:08.144 And then we'll send it off to our artists. 00:34:08.666 --> 00:34:08.746 Oh, 00:34:08.846 --> 00:34:10.626 and we've also added a sensitivity 00:34:10.668 --> 00:34:11.447 reader now too. 00:34:11.487 --> 00:34:13.090 So there is that stage as well. 00:34:14.150 --> 00:34:15.190 Question coming up because I 00:34:15.231 --> 00:34:17.393 was gonna because that's 00:34:17.413 --> 00:34:20.255 how you you want things to be right. 00:34:20.275 --> 00:34:20.896 And you want them to be 00:34:20.956 --> 00:34:21.936 proper when you're talking 00:34:21.976 --> 00:34:24.338 about disabilities and that 00:34:24.358 --> 00:34:24.918 kind of stuff. 00:34:24.958 --> 00:34:25.940 And you do have somebody 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.222 that sensitivity chats all that now. 00:34:28.775 --> 00:34:29.556 Yeah, well, I mean, 00:34:29.576 --> 00:34:31.896 I know it sounds a little bit, you know, 00:34:31.916 --> 00:34:32.777 some people may have an 00:34:32.858 --> 00:34:33.998 average reaction to it. 00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:35.900 But essentially, I mean, you know, 00:34:35.940 --> 00:34:37.481 I'm only one disabled person. 00:34:38.902 --> 00:34:40.262 So I can't speak for everybody. 00:34:40.302 --> 00:34:41.322 So I think that just having 00:34:41.463 --> 00:34:45.146 another perspective is a 00:34:45.206 --> 00:34:46.166 good thing to have. 00:34:47.086 --> 00:34:48.148 uh and I think that's it's 00:34:48.208 --> 00:34:49.710 really helped the uh 00:34:49.750 --> 00:34:50.891 quality of this issue uh a 00:34:52.172 --> 00:34:54.295 lot uh so yeah from from 00:34:54.315 --> 00:34:55.856 this point I'll do my 00:34:55.896 --> 00:34:56.697 script to send it off to 00:34:56.717 --> 00:34:58.438 the sensitivity reader then 00:34:58.478 --> 00:35:00.780 we'll get the editor in uh 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.503 then it'll go to san san 00:35:02.543 --> 00:35:04.724 typically is just very very 00:35:04.764 --> 00:35:05.666 accommodating it doesn't 00:35:05.686 --> 00:35:07.367 really make any changes uh 00:35:07.447 --> 00:35:08.568 I mean you know great 00:35:08.668 --> 00:35:10.230 artist too man well yeah of course 00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:13.012 and black and white so for 00:35:13.032 --> 00:35:14.293 those who haven't read or 00:35:14.333 --> 00:35:15.514 checked it out it is a 00:35:15.574 --> 00:35:17.795 hundred percent black gray 00:35:17.994 --> 00:35:21.036 white scale beautiful og 00:35:21.076 --> 00:35:22.817 style comic which I really 00:35:22.916 --> 00:35:24.197 absolutely love that there 00:35:24.257 --> 00:35:26.338 is no color whatsoever all 00:35:26.378 --> 00:35:27.739 the tones and the blends 00:35:27.780 --> 00:35:28.701 are and everything like 00:35:28.721 --> 00:35:30.221 that are done through the 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.563 art and it's very hard to 00:35:32.623 --> 00:35:36.985 do but sand pulls it off amazingly 00:35:38.570 --> 00:35:38.769 Yeah, 00:35:38.849 --> 00:35:41.952 I'm a huge fan of the original Mirage 00:35:41.972 --> 00:35:44.092 Comics Ninja Turtles run. 00:35:44.112 --> 00:35:46.833 That's a perfect choice right there. 00:35:46.914 --> 00:35:48.215 Yeah, well, 00:35:48.235 --> 00:35:49.494 they were always in black and white. 00:35:49.896 --> 00:35:50.635 And also there's just sort 00:35:50.655 --> 00:35:52.217 of like a tradition in 00:35:52.257 --> 00:35:53.416 British comics of black and 00:35:53.436 --> 00:35:54.617 white comics as well, you know, 00:35:54.637 --> 00:35:56.139 like at two thousand AD and all that. 00:35:57.219 --> 00:35:59.780 And so I just thought, you know, 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:00.561 it seemed right, 00:36:01.061 --> 00:36:02.461 especially with how good 00:36:02.641 --> 00:36:05.902 Sans art style is in black and white. 00:36:05.943 --> 00:36:06.903 I mean, I did consider 00:36:07.949 --> 00:36:08.670 get in color, 00:36:09.030 --> 00:36:11.634 but sans art style just looks so good, uh, 00:36:12.795 --> 00:36:14.637 in black and white, you know, some, 00:36:14.697 --> 00:36:15.438 some of these issues, 00:36:15.458 --> 00:36:16.338 there are these like little 00:36:16.438 --> 00:36:18.320 introspective moments that 00:36:18.661 --> 00:36:21.043 really look great, uh, 00:36:21.103 --> 00:36:22.164 in black and white and the 00:36:22.204 --> 00:36:23.164 black and white makes them 00:36:23.206 --> 00:36:24.626 feel more introspective. 00:36:26.572 --> 00:36:28.193 no I I really like it and 00:36:28.213 --> 00:36:29.393 you you brought up two 00:36:29.414 --> 00:36:30.653 thousand a.d I have a 00:36:30.713 --> 00:36:32.775 couple of issues sitting in 00:36:32.835 --> 00:36:34.735 one of my short boxes down 00:36:34.755 --> 00:36:37.277 in my storage and um I 00:36:37.297 --> 00:36:38.157 never realized they were 00:36:38.197 --> 00:36:39.396 british I just enjoyed them 00:36:39.416 --> 00:36:40.197 because I love the 00:36:40.237 --> 00:36:42.557 scientific sci-fi you know 00:36:42.577 --> 00:36:43.699 that kind of stuff has 00:36:43.778 --> 00:36:46.019 always been phenomenal but 00:36:46.059 --> 00:36:46.699 no that's really cool I 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:47.519 didn't know that they were 00:36:47.539 --> 00:36:50.001 british so but to this moment or 00:36:50.989 --> 00:36:53.130 No, I just, I have a couple, like I said, 00:36:53.150 --> 00:36:54.190 I have a couple of, you know, 00:36:54.231 --> 00:36:55.612 two thousand AD comic books. 00:36:55.771 --> 00:36:56.391 Oh, no, no. 00:36:57.052 --> 00:36:59.152 Two thousand AD is the British comic book. 00:36:59.193 --> 00:36:59.833 Like if you ask. 00:36:59.853 --> 00:37:01.434 I had no idea. 00:37:02.873 --> 00:37:04.635 No, no, it's very much is. 00:37:04.695 --> 00:37:04.894 Yeah. 00:37:05.215 --> 00:37:05.534 Well, I mean, 00:37:05.554 --> 00:37:07.815 like Judge Dredd is like was 00:37:07.856 --> 00:37:09.916 written as like how a 00:37:09.956 --> 00:37:11.456 British person views America. 00:37:11.797 --> 00:37:13.197 When you when you like look 00:37:13.237 --> 00:37:14.639 at what it how it is. 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:15.159 Yeah. 00:37:16.059 --> 00:37:17.860 It's where you kind of, 00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:19.400 it's kind of a big parody 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:20.581 of American culture because 00:37:20.641 --> 00:37:21.621 it's all about, you know, 00:37:22.262 --> 00:37:24.782 cops who have just like the 00:37:24.842 --> 00:37:26.403 right to just do anything they want, 00:37:26.423 --> 00:37:27.445 where they could just go up 00:37:27.485 --> 00:37:28.764 and shoot someone and 00:37:28.804 --> 00:37:29.606 decide that they're going 00:37:29.626 --> 00:37:31.365 to execute someone. 00:37:31.405 --> 00:37:33.467 Well, yeah, but I mean, 00:37:33.507 --> 00:37:34.487 you can understand that 00:37:34.507 --> 00:37:35.929 when you're looking at what 00:37:35.949 --> 00:37:37.648 happens in the US from outside. 00:37:37.668 --> 00:37:38.090 Yeah. 00:37:38.110 --> 00:37:39.230 You could have an idea like that. 00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:39.329 Yeah. 00:37:39.349 --> 00:37:39.570 I mean, yeah. 00:37:46.045 --> 00:37:46.945 Yeah. 00:37:46.985 --> 00:37:48.447 Let's not dive too deep into that. 00:37:48.467 --> 00:37:50.028 I don't want to, you know. 00:37:50.289 --> 00:37:50.829 Well, yeah, I know, 00:37:51.028 --> 00:37:52.010 but I'm just trying to 00:37:52.070 --> 00:37:55.132 explain what the 00:37:55.652 --> 00:37:57.014 inspiration for it was 00:37:57.034 --> 00:37:58.295 because you can kind of see 00:37:58.715 --> 00:38:01.036 how someone looking outside. 00:38:01.496 --> 00:38:02.498 Yeah, I can a hundred percent see that. 00:38:02.557 --> 00:38:02.657 Yeah. 00:38:03.998 --> 00:38:04.559 Given everything. 00:38:04.780 --> 00:38:07.402 Yeah, I can see that. 00:38:07.621 --> 00:38:10.443 Um, let's see. 00:38:11.244 --> 00:38:11.364 Ah. 00:38:14.103 --> 00:38:16.286 So this is your fourth issue 00:38:16.306 --> 00:38:17.407 you've written of Zip. 00:38:17.427 --> 00:38:19.250 Have you had like just the 00:38:19.289 --> 00:38:20.271 scene that was like 00:38:20.411 --> 00:38:22.612 emotionally difficult or 00:38:22.632 --> 00:38:23.675 just kind of was like, 00:38:23.775 --> 00:38:24.876 do I really want to write 00:38:24.936 --> 00:38:27.900 this like this or anything like that? 00:38:28.340 --> 00:38:29.101 Because I can't remember 00:38:29.161 --> 00:38:30.081 anything that kind of just 00:38:30.302 --> 00:38:32.103 jumped out and just said, oh, like. 00:38:32.900 --> 00:38:34.222 Like, you know? 00:38:34.262 --> 00:38:36.103 But... Well, I mean, 00:38:36.143 --> 00:38:38.784 if you look at the first issue, you know, 00:38:38.885 --> 00:38:39.766 obviously there's... Yeah, 00:38:39.786 --> 00:38:40.826 that was the one issue I 00:38:40.865 --> 00:38:42.708 was thinking that might have had, like, 00:38:42.847 --> 00:38:43.748 a scene that was kind of, like, 00:38:44.409 --> 00:38:45.710 a little emotional, you know? 00:38:46.610 --> 00:38:47.471 Yeah, well, I mean, 00:38:48.050 --> 00:38:51.172 the whole idea of Zip going 00:38:51.233 --> 00:38:55.096 to train tracks to kill herself, I mean, 00:38:56.376 --> 00:38:58.739 I live near a set of train tracks, 00:38:59.958 --> 00:39:01.460 and there have been periods 00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:02.260 of my life where 00:39:02.884 --> 00:39:04.304 Every morning when I went to work, 00:39:04.405 --> 00:39:06.447 I would cross the bridge 00:39:06.547 --> 00:39:08.027 and look at the train tracks and think, 00:39:08.949 --> 00:39:09.188 actually, 00:39:09.228 --> 00:39:10.869 maybe I'd rather just sneak onto 00:39:10.909 --> 00:39:12.010 those instead of going to 00:39:12.070 --> 00:39:14.193 work today and just kind of lie down. 00:39:14.833 --> 00:39:16.213 We are very happy that you 00:39:16.253 --> 00:39:17.014 never made that choice, bud. 00:39:18.516 --> 00:39:18.795 Yeah. 00:39:19.135 --> 00:39:20.496 So that's kind of where that decision, 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:23.500 that story beat came from. 00:39:24.219 --> 00:39:24.500 Okay. 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:25.900 Especially, you know, 00:39:26.442 --> 00:39:30.505 explicitly being train tracks as well. 00:39:35.259 --> 00:39:36.019 Well, you did ask. 00:39:37.481 --> 00:39:38.161 You were correct. 00:39:38.202 --> 00:39:38.943 I did ask. 00:39:39.844 --> 00:39:40.384 So real quick, 00:39:40.403 --> 00:39:41.264 we're going to jump into a 00:39:41.344 --> 00:39:43.706 real quick lightning round. 00:39:44.588 --> 00:39:47.170 And we'll go favorite 00:39:47.190 --> 00:39:48.952 British comic of all time. 00:39:49.853 --> 00:39:49.934 Oh, 00:39:49.974 --> 00:39:51.655 that would have to be Fleetway's Sonic 00:39:51.675 --> 00:39:52.135 the comic. 00:39:53.998 --> 00:39:55.119 When they inspired Zip. 00:39:56.539 --> 00:39:58.360 it did uh you know I mean 00:39:58.380 --> 00:39:59.681 that was the comic that I 00:39:59.742 --> 00:40:02.585 read yeah that was my first 00:40:02.644 --> 00:40:04.867 comic um and it was 00:40:04.907 --> 00:40:07.951 essentially for some 00:40:07.971 --> 00:40:09.773 reasons uh sega decided to 00:40:09.813 --> 00:40:10.934 commission a comic book in 00:40:10.954 --> 00:40:12.795 the uk as well as in the us 00:40:13.036 --> 00:40:15.978 um and the uk writers over 00:40:16.018 --> 00:40:17.000 here just decided to go 00:40:17.019 --> 00:40:18.782 completely wild with it and um 00:40:19.402 --> 00:40:20.443 mean they did at the time 00:40:20.623 --> 00:40:21.884 they really only had like 00:40:22.423 --> 00:40:23.443 you know some mega drives 00:40:23.463 --> 00:40:24.603 games to go on that didn't 00:40:24.623 --> 00:40:25.684 really have you know they 00:40:25.704 --> 00:40:26.625 didn't have voice cut 00:40:26.664 --> 00:40:28.846 scenes so there wasn't you 00:40:28.865 --> 00:40:30.465 know like a huge wealth of 00:40:30.885 --> 00:40:33.387 um you know explicit story 00:40:33.427 --> 00:40:36.967 to go on and so um but even 00:40:37.027 --> 00:40:37.947 still they kind of just 00:40:38.608 --> 00:40:39.889 made it their own and really 00:40:41.010 --> 00:40:42.010 I mean, in that comic, 00:40:42.952 --> 00:40:44.213 the transformation that 00:40:44.793 --> 00:40:45.693 Sonic goes through when he 00:40:45.713 --> 00:40:47.356 gets all the Chaos Emeralds, Super Sonic, 00:40:47.795 --> 00:40:50.239 is not just a power boost. 00:40:50.318 --> 00:40:52.802 It's this crazy wild card 00:40:53.782 --> 00:40:55.244 that Sonic becomes when he 00:40:55.364 --> 00:40:56.746 gets too stressed or if he 00:40:56.766 --> 00:40:58.947 gets exposed to Chaos Radiation. 00:40:59.427 --> 00:41:00.048 And he essentially just 00:41:00.088 --> 00:41:02.010 becomes this unstoppable demon who 00:41:03.092 --> 00:41:04.974 has powers very similar to Superman, 00:41:05.014 --> 00:41:10.137 but he is not... Yeah, he's... I mean, 00:41:10.177 --> 00:41:11.519 he just wants to destroy everything. 00:41:12.219 --> 00:41:14.601 He wants to kill and destroy everything. 00:41:15.083 --> 00:41:16.423 And the only way that... 00:41:18.382 --> 00:41:19.182 And the only way that you 00:41:19.222 --> 00:41:20.543 can survive him is 00:41:20.583 --> 00:41:22.605 basically he loves to toy 00:41:23.065 --> 00:41:25.967 with his victims before he finishes them. 00:41:26.547 --> 00:41:28.269 So you can only hope to 00:41:28.289 --> 00:41:29.811 stall him until he turns 00:41:29.851 --> 00:41:31.612 back into regular Sonic. 00:41:31.632 --> 00:41:33.273 He goes from Sonic the 00:41:33.313 --> 00:41:34.514 Hedgehog to Art the Clown. 00:41:35.295 --> 00:41:37.297 Yeah, pretty much. 00:41:40.496 --> 00:41:41.898 And because this character 00:41:41.918 --> 00:41:43.137 can come out at any moment, 00:41:44.619 --> 00:41:45.818 he comes out when Sonic 00:41:45.838 --> 00:41:46.938 becomes his most stressed. 00:41:47.498 --> 00:41:48.460 So typically, 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:50.500 whenever they had a story 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:52.181 where the stakes were really high, 00:41:52.661 --> 00:41:53.721 Super Sonic always had a 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:55.702 chance of coming out and 00:41:56.081 --> 00:41:58.081 making the story's stakes even higher. 00:41:58.943 --> 00:41:59.822 It was great. 00:42:01.902 --> 00:42:03.443 Love it, dude. 00:42:03.463 --> 00:42:05.806 Sonic the Hedgehog is so good. 00:42:05.885 --> 00:42:07.106 Yeah, well, I mean, 00:42:07.126 --> 00:42:09.307 the British comics is quite 00:42:09.347 --> 00:42:11.128 different to a lot of the 00:42:11.168 --> 00:42:13.150 interpretations you might have heard. 00:42:13.351 --> 00:42:16.552 Sonic in that is kind of an ass. 00:42:18.635 --> 00:42:21.476 He's a brave person that fights evil, 00:42:21.516 --> 00:42:22.878 but he's also not like... 00:42:23.677 --> 00:42:24.958 he's not particularly polite 00:42:24.998 --> 00:42:27.539 about it um basically um 00:42:28.139 --> 00:42:29.820 rich nigel kitchen with the 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.081 writer his ethos was that 00:42:32.141 --> 00:42:33.182 just because you're like a 00:42:33.242 --> 00:42:34.702 brave confident person does 00:42:34.742 --> 00:42:35.844 not necessarily mean that 00:42:35.864 --> 00:42:36.943 you're particularly nice 00:42:37.485 --> 00:42:38.224 you know if you think about 00:42:38.244 --> 00:42:39.365 all of the popular people 00:42:39.385 --> 00:42:40.106 you've ever met in your 00:42:40.146 --> 00:42:40.666 life they're not 00:42:40.686 --> 00:42:42.407 necessarily you know the 00:42:42.447 --> 00:42:44.427 most agreeable people yeah 00:42:44.728 --> 00:42:46.668 um and so yeah he typically 00:42:46.708 --> 00:42:47.889 does like berate his 00:42:47.949 --> 00:42:49.431 friends for you know not 00:42:49.471 --> 00:42:51.012 being as hot as he is and 00:42:51.271 --> 00:42:53.273 um you know he's he's very 00:42:53.353 --> 00:42:55.135 kind of like oh whatever 00:42:55.275 --> 00:42:56.576 I'm the best and everything 00:42:56.835 --> 00:42:58.916 he's very very vain and um 00:42:58.956 --> 00:43:00.777 but but he is the one who's 00:43:00.998 --> 00:43:01.958 you know skilled enough in 00:43:01.998 --> 00:43:04.201 a lot of cases to fight 00:43:05.041 --> 00:43:06.402 you know, the tyrants and things. 00:43:07.583 --> 00:43:08.985 So he gets the job done, 00:43:09.144 --> 00:43:10.306 but he doesn't necessarily 00:43:10.346 --> 00:43:11.746 do it in a way that you're going to, 00:43:13.228 --> 00:43:13.469 you know, 00:43:13.509 --> 00:43:15.289 be happy with him for dealing 00:43:15.309 --> 00:43:16.050 with you afterwards. 00:43:16.371 --> 00:43:16.871 Yeah. 00:43:17.211 --> 00:43:17.652 All right. 00:43:17.693 --> 00:43:18.253 Next one up. 00:43:18.532 --> 00:43:20.554 Most underrated disabled 00:43:20.695 --> 00:43:22.456 character in fiction. 00:43:22.896 --> 00:43:24.396 Oh my god, there was this, 00:43:24.797 --> 00:43:26.396 I don't know if you've ever heard of it, 00:43:26.416 --> 00:43:28.097 but there was a cartoon in 00:43:28.398 --> 00:43:30.338 the nineties that was an 00:43:30.378 --> 00:43:31.739 offshoot of Ghostbusters 00:43:31.898 --> 00:43:35.400 called The Extreme Ghostbusters. 00:43:35.420 --> 00:43:37.900 And one of the characters in 00:43:37.940 --> 00:43:39.541 that was in a wheelchair, 00:43:39.641 --> 00:43:41.400 but they were kind of like a daredevil, 00:43:41.701 --> 00:43:43.541 like a, you know, like a thrill seeker. 00:43:44.581 --> 00:43:45.262 I remember. 00:43:47.302 --> 00:43:48.503 And it's interesting to go 00:43:48.543 --> 00:43:49.563 back and watch that show 00:43:49.603 --> 00:43:51.123 because I completely forgot 00:43:51.143 --> 00:43:52.045 that that character was 00:43:52.244 --> 00:43:53.105 even in a wheelchair. 00:43:53.144 --> 00:43:55.445 They were like a complete 00:43:55.485 --> 00:43:56.766 character unto themselves. 00:43:57.146 --> 00:43:57.686 Good reference. 00:43:58.327 --> 00:43:59.527 We got a good friend, Rob. 00:43:59.586 --> 00:44:01.487 He's all about the Ghostbusters, man. 00:44:01.827 --> 00:44:04.728 He loves some Ghostbusters. 00:44:04.768 --> 00:44:04.849 Yeah. 00:44:04.869 --> 00:44:05.750 I guarantee he would know 00:44:05.769 --> 00:44:06.869 their name and everything. 00:44:08.121 --> 00:44:08.802 Yeah, 00:44:08.822 --> 00:44:12.804 I forgot What's on your playlist when 00:44:12.844 --> 00:44:15.065 you write or do you like it quiet? 00:44:15.085 --> 00:44:16.106 Um, 00:44:16.146 --> 00:44:18.887 well for this issue Like a lot of time 00:44:18.907 --> 00:44:20.068 travel type stuff. 00:44:20.329 --> 00:44:21.630 So like Huey Newt Lewis and 00:44:21.650 --> 00:44:23.391 the news like that, 00:44:23.530 --> 00:44:25.291 you know back to the future 00:44:25.811 --> 00:44:28.072 soundtrack and Great 00:44:28.112 --> 00:44:29.313 soundtrack the original one 00:44:30.139 --> 00:44:31.804 Yeah, well, I mean, all of them, really. 00:44:32.123 --> 00:44:34.789 I'm kind of a defender of the third movie, 00:44:34.849 --> 00:44:36.693 to be honest with you. 00:44:36.733 --> 00:44:37.996 I'm a huge fan of the eighties, man. 00:44:38.036 --> 00:44:38.878 The eighties rock. 00:44:39.259 --> 00:44:39.420 Yeah. 00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:41.483 Back to the Future came out. 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:44.880 yeah well I mean the third 00:44:44.981 --> 00:44:46.342 one was early nineties at 00:44:46.382 --> 00:44:47.264 that point there wasn't a 00:44:47.824 --> 00:44:49.025 long gap between the first 00:44:49.125 --> 00:44:50.246 one and the second one but 00:44:50.867 --> 00:44:52.007 like yeah the original 00:44:52.068 --> 00:44:56.251 score uh by uh alistair uh 00:44:56.952 --> 00:44:58.152 sylvester I want to say uh 00:44:58.172 --> 00:45:00.514 yeah I think so uh 00:45:02.179 --> 00:45:04.081 And, you know, 00:45:04.121 --> 00:45:05.221 just the popular music was 00:45:05.240 --> 00:45:07.003 in the movies as well, like ZZ Types, 00:45:07.222 --> 00:45:09.103 Double Back, you know, 00:45:09.143 --> 00:45:10.525 Back in Time by Huey Lewis, 00:45:10.565 --> 00:45:12.947 and obviously The Power of Love, you know, 00:45:13.206 --> 00:45:14.969 Michael Jackson, all that kind of stuff. 00:45:15.009 --> 00:45:21.012 I like it. 00:45:21.032 --> 00:45:23.434 All right, so if Zip becomes a TV series, 00:45:24.175 --> 00:45:25.556 who gets to play Zip and 00:45:25.637 --> 00:45:26.878 why is it not me? 00:45:29.047 --> 00:45:30.148 I mean, you can try it if you want. 00:45:30.208 --> 00:45:32.990 Hey, let's get the comic open. 00:45:33.291 --> 00:45:34.072 Read a few lines. 00:45:34.293 --> 00:45:35.474 Let's see your audition. 00:45:36.914 --> 00:45:38.556 I don't think Zip was bearded, but hey, 00:45:38.936 --> 00:45:40.699 we can make an exception. 00:45:41.019 --> 00:45:42.061 I mean, if it's animated, 00:45:43.121 --> 00:45:44.023 you can get away with it. 00:45:44.043 --> 00:45:45.965 If that is my back hurts right now, 00:45:45.985 --> 00:45:48.648 it'd be me playing Zip with a walker. 00:45:50.384 --> 00:45:50.543 Well, 00:45:50.563 --> 00:45:52.445 I mean like if say for example if it 00:45:52.465 --> 00:45:53.585 was an animated show or 00:45:53.625 --> 00:45:55.166 just who who would you I 00:45:55.186 --> 00:45:56.465 just interested to know now 00:45:56.907 --> 00:45:58.507 Who would you want to play yourself? 00:45:59.126 --> 00:46:00.007 Who would play me? 00:46:00.068 --> 00:46:01.047 Oh, well, 00:46:01.088 --> 00:46:02.648 who would you want to play if you 00:46:02.809 --> 00:46:04.530 if you had a chance to? 00:46:07.570 --> 00:46:09.771 Either I would go Timothy 00:46:09.851 --> 00:46:13.733 Oliphant Or what's his name? 00:46:15.594 --> 00:46:16.855 The dude that plays 00:46:19.853 --> 00:46:24.454 opposite of him uh or and 00:46:24.594 --> 00:46:25.853 what's that cv series shit 00:46:25.893 --> 00:46:26.673 I can't even think of it 00:46:27.153 --> 00:46:28.253 but the guy who put he was 00:46:28.313 --> 00:46:31.875 in um fallout he plays the 00:46:31.894 --> 00:46:33.655 um the guy with no nose I 00:46:33.675 --> 00:46:34.876 can't I'm brain farting 00:46:34.896 --> 00:46:37.496 today muscle relaxers are 00:46:37.556 --> 00:46:42.396 getting me man um oh yeah 00:46:42.436 --> 00:46:43.516 walter coggins I think is 00:46:43.556 --> 00:46:47.617 his name I can see one of 00:46:47.637 --> 00:46:49.297 those two guys playing me oh yeah 00:46:50.594 --> 00:46:51.054 Well, I mean, 00:46:52.295 --> 00:46:53.617 you asked me this question last time, 00:46:53.677 --> 00:46:54.277 and I really should have 00:46:54.297 --> 00:46:55.278 gone away and thought about it. 00:46:55.318 --> 00:46:58.260 But I would say that... You 00:46:58.280 --> 00:46:59.402 don't get time to think about it. 00:46:59.422 --> 00:47:02.003 It just pops in your head. 00:47:02.465 --> 00:47:02.744 Yeah. 00:47:02.885 --> 00:47:03.284 Well, I mean, 00:47:03.385 --> 00:47:04.746 I would say that although I 00:47:04.766 --> 00:47:06.288 don't have any names in 00:47:06.327 --> 00:47:07.849 mind for Zip herself, 00:47:08.188 --> 00:47:11.851 I would cast Dog's Body as Timothy Spall. 00:47:11.871 --> 00:47:12.012 Okay. 00:47:12.672 --> 00:47:14.875 Do you remember Timothy Spall? 00:47:15.635 --> 00:47:16.996 I think I know who you're talking about. 00:47:18.157 --> 00:47:19.498 He was... I mean, I think the... 00:47:20.409 --> 00:47:21.550 Character the most people 00:47:21.590 --> 00:47:23.452 are gonna know him for is 00:47:23.552 --> 00:47:25.173 Peter Pettigrew from the 00:47:25.213 --> 00:47:26.034 Harry Potter films. 00:47:26.213 --> 00:47:28.536 Yes You know, yeah, 00:47:28.556 --> 00:47:29.376 you'd know him from a lot 00:47:29.436 --> 00:47:33.920 more if you Really watched 00:47:34.340 --> 00:47:35.681 like British TV and movies. 00:47:35.822 --> 00:47:37.362 I mean he was the have you 00:47:37.382 --> 00:47:37.983 ever seen any box? 00:47:38.023 --> 00:47:40.985 I don't have Brit box. 00:47:41.045 --> 00:47:43.286 I Thought about it was the 00:47:43.327 --> 00:47:46.309 original British office Okay. 00:47:46.349 --> 00:47:47.670 Have you ever seen any red dwarf? 00:47:48.442 --> 00:47:49.543 I have not, no. 00:47:49.663 --> 00:47:51.244 I really recommend Red Dwarf. 00:47:51.304 --> 00:47:52.106 It's a great show. 00:47:52.126 --> 00:47:52.726 I'll track it down. 00:47:53.045 --> 00:47:54.248 So imagine if, like, 00:47:54.688 --> 00:47:55.789 so the premise of Red Dwarf 00:47:55.889 --> 00:47:58.612 is take the starship 00:47:58.692 --> 00:48:00.152 Enterprise and imagine if, like, 00:48:00.313 --> 00:48:02.735 everyone on the crew got wiped out, 00:48:02.755 --> 00:48:03.255 just killed, 00:48:03.757 --> 00:48:06.599 except a bunch of hatless redshirts. 00:48:07.740 --> 00:48:08.320 And they're just, like, 00:48:08.340 --> 00:48:09.222 a bunch of space slobs. 00:48:09.242 --> 00:48:10.784 But redshirts are only there to die. 00:48:11.592 --> 00:48:11.932 Yes, 00:48:12.012 --> 00:48:15.295 but these guys are just the rank and 00:48:15.315 --> 00:48:15.715 file. 00:48:16.375 --> 00:48:18.335 They're the lowest rank on the ship. 00:48:18.657 --> 00:48:19.697 They're the plebes. 00:48:20.137 --> 00:48:20.818 Yeah, 00:48:20.918 --> 00:48:23.958 and they're just... There's one guy 00:48:23.998 --> 00:48:27.420 who aspires to rise in ranks, 00:48:27.460 --> 00:48:29.161 but he's kind of just inept 00:48:29.222 --> 00:48:29.762 at everything. 00:48:30.161 --> 00:48:30.943 And there's another guy 00:48:30.963 --> 00:48:34.605 who's just there to make a little living. 00:48:35.625 --> 00:48:37.045 But he's just a massive slob. 00:48:38.186 --> 00:48:38.327 And 00:48:39.186 --> 00:48:41.748 due to shenanigans basically 00:48:41.788 --> 00:48:43.487 they end up getting frozen 00:48:43.527 --> 00:48:45.329 in time for three million 00:48:45.369 --> 00:48:49.510 years um and they're just 00:48:49.550 --> 00:48:51.351 like lost in space drifting 00:48:51.391 --> 00:48:53.572 around trying to find their 00:48:53.592 --> 00:48:55.791 way back home um but yeah I 00:48:55.811 --> 00:48:56.932 mean it's it's like imagine 00:48:56.972 --> 00:48:59.293 if everyone on the starship 00:48:59.353 --> 00:49:02.715 enterprise died except for some hapless 00:49:03.735 --> 00:49:04.195 slobs. 00:49:04.996 --> 00:49:05.916 It's really funny. 00:49:06.257 --> 00:49:07.438 But I was going to say that 00:49:07.478 --> 00:49:09.340 Peter Pettigrew, not Peter Pettigrew, 00:49:09.501 --> 00:49:12.744 Timothy Spall is in Red Dwarf. 00:49:13.304 --> 00:49:14.246 And the thing that I know 00:49:14.286 --> 00:49:16.628 him from is him doing a 00:49:17.188 --> 00:49:19.891 really thick Birmingham accent going, 00:49:20.012 --> 00:49:21.454 it's a plain clue, isn't it? 00:49:22.458 --> 00:49:23.759 But that means nothing to 00:49:23.798 --> 00:49:25.139 you if you haven't seen this show. 00:49:26.121 --> 00:49:26.721 It doesn't. 00:49:26.740 --> 00:49:27.641 I'm going to have to track 00:49:27.661 --> 00:49:29.222 it down and give it a watch. 00:49:29.302 --> 00:49:30.583 I really recommend Red Dwarf. 00:49:30.603 --> 00:49:31.525 It's one of my favorite. 00:49:31.804 --> 00:49:32.405 How about you? 00:49:32.425 --> 00:49:33.606 We've got to catch some of 00:49:33.626 --> 00:49:36.128 those hot moments from the show. 00:49:36.588 --> 00:49:36.969 Oh, yeah. 00:49:37.088 --> 00:49:39.271 It's one of my favorite shows of all time. 00:49:39.371 --> 00:49:40.070 I'm definitely going to 00:49:40.090 --> 00:49:40.472 check that one out. 00:49:40.492 --> 00:49:40.672 All right. 00:49:40.831 --> 00:49:43.914 We're going to bring it home, man. 00:49:43.934 --> 00:49:45.394 All right, Mike. 00:49:45.514 --> 00:49:47.916 Where can everybody find you 00:49:48.097 --> 00:49:48.878 and your work? 00:49:50.532 --> 00:49:50.733 Yeah, 00:49:50.753 --> 00:49:55.054 so the website for Zip is zipcomic.co.uk. 00:49:56.835 --> 00:49:57.114 Obviously, 00:49:57.155 --> 00:50:01.657 the Kickstarter is linked by the 00:50:01.777 --> 00:50:03.717 United States Department of Nerds. 00:50:04.818 --> 00:50:05.697 But I mean, 00:50:06.338 --> 00:50:07.619 I've got a bunch of short links 00:50:07.699 --> 00:50:08.739 for the Kickstarter. 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:12.219 So if you're viewing this on Facebook, 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:13.541 you could, for example, type 00:50:14.987 --> 00:50:20.070 kface.zipcomic.uk and you'll 00:50:20.090 --> 00:50:21.952 get the Kickstarter comment for that. 00:50:22.773 --> 00:50:24.233 But yeah, check us out on Kickstarter. 00:50:24.773 --> 00:50:26.496 I believe that if you put 00:50:26.635 --> 00:50:28.396 zip Kickstarter in Google, 00:50:28.597 --> 00:50:29.097 we're actually... Yeah, 00:50:29.677 --> 00:50:32.059 if you just Google Kickstarter, 00:50:32.099 --> 00:50:33.280 go to Kickstarter, 00:50:33.782 --> 00:50:35.282 you type in zip under the 00:50:35.342 --> 00:50:36.623 comic book category, 00:50:37.043 --> 00:50:38.085 I think it's like the first 00:50:38.204 --> 00:50:39.045 one that pops up. 00:50:39.443 --> 00:50:40.704 yeah we often do have pretty 00:50:40.724 --> 00:50:42.965 good uh seo in that 00:50:42.985 --> 00:50:44.186 department which I do work 00:50:44.286 --> 00:50:46.568 quite hard I do have all I 00:50:46.588 --> 00:50:47.829 have the kickstarter linked 00:50:48.510 --> 00:50:50.132 underneath all my social 00:50:50.172 --> 00:50:53.173 media that I did for you 00:50:53.213 --> 00:50:55.936 coming on so multitudes of 00:50:55.956 --> 00:50:57.436 ways for people to find 00:50:58.077 --> 00:51:02.641 find you you're on threads you're on um 00:51:03.621 --> 00:51:04.822 Instagram, Facebook, 00:51:05.364 --> 00:51:06.264 and I swear if you just go 00:51:06.284 --> 00:51:09.666 to all of them and type in Zip Comic Book, 00:51:10.887 --> 00:51:11.648 you're going to find it. 00:51:11.809 --> 00:51:12.590 You cannot miss it. 00:51:13.050 --> 00:51:14.291 The easiest way is to go to 00:51:14.331 --> 00:51:15.311 our website and link us to 00:51:15.351 --> 00:51:16.193 all of our socials. 00:51:16.733 --> 00:51:20.755 Zipcomic.co.uk There you go. 00:51:21.456 --> 00:51:22.898 Cannot miss it. 00:51:23.418 --> 00:51:28.282 And reminder, it goes live tomorrow, 00:51:28.882 --> 00:51:32.206 the sixteenth of September. 00:51:33.251 --> 00:51:34.291 Before I let you go, 00:51:34.612 --> 00:51:36.213 and before we close it out officially, 00:51:37.054 --> 00:51:38.675 I want to give you this sentence again, 00:51:38.715 --> 00:51:39.076 Mike. 00:51:40.556 --> 00:51:42.079 Zip is the kind of comic 00:51:42.659 --> 00:51:45.521 that... Zip is the kind of 00:51:45.541 --> 00:51:47.543 comic that you should 00:51:47.583 --> 00:51:48.985 pledge to tomorrow when it 00:51:49.005 --> 00:51:51.347 goes live at six p.m. 00:51:51.387 --> 00:51:53.869 British Standard Time for one p.m. 00:51:53.949 --> 00:51:54.688 Eastern Standard Time. 00:51:57.653 --> 00:51:57.974 Love it. 00:51:57.994 --> 00:51:59.474 That is the best answer, dude. 00:51:59.695 --> 00:52:01.335 That seals it. 00:52:02.114 --> 00:52:03.976 Dude, that was perfect. 00:52:04.036 --> 00:52:05.396 Huge thanks to you, Mike, 00:52:05.416 --> 00:52:07.056 for coming back through and 00:52:07.556 --> 00:52:09.518 talking to us once again about Zip. 00:52:10.018 --> 00:52:12.818 And again, it goes live tomorrow. 00:52:13.478 --> 00:52:14.938 And if you're listening to this, 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:18.139 go read issues one through three. 00:52:18.380 --> 00:52:19.721 You can find them on Amazon 00:52:20.001 --> 00:52:22.121 or DriveThru Comics. 00:52:22.181 --> 00:52:22.822 And again, 00:52:22.882 --> 00:52:25.101 don't miss the launch tomorrow 00:52:25.742 --> 00:52:26.742 on Kickstarter 00:52:27.682 --> 00:52:28.704 It will be phenomenal. 00:52:28.724 --> 00:52:31.570 And this issue will be live next Wednesday, 00:52:31.610 --> 00:52:33.393 wherever you find your podcast. 00:52:35.382 --> 00:52:36.563 And it will still be there in the show. 00:52:36.603 --> 00:52:37.344 So everybody who listens 00:52:37.364 --> 00:52:38.945 next week will get another 00:52:38.985 --> 00:52:42.507 reminder that this is still live. 00:52:42.907 --> 00:52:44.429 It'll be live for the next thirty days. 00:52:44.469 --> 00:52:47.010 So it will go until October 00:52:47.692 --> 00:52:50.333 sixteenth will be the 00:52:50.373 --> 00:52:52.695 closeout of this Kickstarter. 00:52:53.155 --> 00:52:54.556 It is a fantastic read. 00:52:54.617 --> 00:52:55.938 I cannot encourage you 00:52:56.018 --> 00:52:58.701 enough to get out there and support Mike, 00:52:59.141 --> 00:53:01.262 support the comic book, support Zip, 00:53:02.210 --> 00:53:04.271 And that's all I got for Mike. 00:53:04.530 --> 00:53:05.351 Coming up for me, 00:53:06.052 --> 00:53:09.012 I have... Let's see who I got coming up. 00:53:10.713 --> 00:53:11.574 Let me go to my email. 00:53:12.914 --> 00:53:13.534 Let's see here. 00:53:13.635 --> 00:53:17.717 I have... Ben Lacey coming 00:53:17.777 --> 00:53:21.539 up on the twentieth with 00:53:21.699 --> 00:53:23.760 Shark Award number nine, 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:30.322 followed by... I have... 00:53:32.474 --> 00:53:36.518 See Ethan Coogan and Jessica 00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.001 Silvetti coming up with 00:53:39.121 --> 00:53:41.583 shock headed Peter on the twenty fourth. 00:53:41.603 --> 00:53:43.545 So I'll be quick turning shows that week. 00:53:44.266 --> 00:53:46.268 It has been a fantastic 00:53:46.427 --> 00:53:47.768 month of interviews. 00:53:48.489 --> 00:53:49.230 I love it. 00:53:49.811 --> 00:53:50.972 I can't wait for it. 00:53:51.713 --> 00:53:52.793 I'm telling you right now. 00:53:54.157 --> 00:53:54.818 Keep them coming. 00:53:55.139 --> 00:53:56.420 I love talking to everybody 00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.260 with Kickstarters and just 00:53:58.300 --> 00:53:59.762 about their work in general. 00:54:00.242 --> 00:54:03.425 So, Mike, once again, you, sir, 00:54:03.985 --> 00:54:07.947 in Zip Comic is USDN approved. 00:54:08.648 --> 00:54:09.829 And with that, everybody, 00:54:10.309 --> 00:54:14.693 enjoy and see you on the next one. 00:54:14.733 --> 00:54:14.952 See ya.