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Do you have any examples of things that

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are like so out there that you're like,

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"There's no way we can put a jacuzzi in

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the back of this thing."

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I don't think you could.

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You can.

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Can you?

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You can.

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You can.

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How would that work?

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Because the water will slash

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out if you got to do things.

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Tell about the electric covers.

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It does do though.

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I totally want to get a

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jet with a jacuzzi now.

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Sure.

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Welcome to Own the

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Jet by Aspen Aero Group,

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where we share perspectives from some of

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the leading voices in

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private jet ownership and

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business aviation.

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I'm your host, Derek Savage, along with

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my co-host, Jason Spoor.

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President of Aspen Aero Group.

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Our guest today is Sarah Larinaga, an

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interior and exterior

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designer of private jets.

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Sarah works with brands, celebrities, and

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business leaders to transform their jets

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into unique expressions

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that are truly their own.

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Join us as we dive deep into the

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mechanics, mindset, and moments that

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define jet ownership.

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And together, we'll learn

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what it takes to own the jet.

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All right.

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Great.

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Welcome, Sarah Larinaga, to Own the Jet.

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And Sarah, for the uninitiated, Sarah is

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both an interior

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designer and an engineer,

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which is an interesting kind of

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combination of things.

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And you work on

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customizing jets for people, right?

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Thank you for having me.

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It's a pleasure to be here.

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Yeah, much appreciated.

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Wow.

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And you've done some big things.

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Like recently, you

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did a complete redesign.

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So you're just going to come

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right out of the gate with that?

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Just right out of the gate?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Complete redesign.

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I got to hype her up.

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Right?

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Good.

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You did a--

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No small talk.

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No.

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Right.

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I'll just go.

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Well, let me say this.

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We'll get into the projects later.

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But you have done complete custom

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overhauls of jet aircraft

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for brands, for celebrities,

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for people that we

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would recognize if we heard.

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100%.

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Right?

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OK.

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That's awesome.

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How does one get into that world?

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Really, by accident, I

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didn't know what I wanted to do.

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I was going to school to be an engineer.

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My father and all my uncles and family

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were building contractors.

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So I was like, OK, I'm

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just going to be an engineer.

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I'm going to be a building contractor.

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So after that, then I started going to

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interior design school at

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SCAD in Savannah, Georgia.

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And that's Gulfstream's

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main hub is in Savannah.

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OK.

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Are you from Savannah?

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Originally, I was moving there.

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OK, nice.

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Nice.

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Nice.

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So when I was going to SCAD, I started

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working at Gulfstream as an intern

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and fell in love with

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aviation and the restless history.

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That's all I've done

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for the last 18, 19 years.

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And I love it.

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What was your first project where

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somebody was like, yeah, have at it.

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Customize my jet.

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Well, the first few projects, a lot of

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us, as the intern, you're assisting.

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You're helping out.

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But I got some really cool opportunities

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working on Robert Krauss,

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Air Queen for the Patriots.

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And I was like, OK, this is fun.

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Nice.

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A little dip into the sports world.

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And so you started off kind of like, I

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don't know, working with other people,

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helping them do the thing.

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At what point were you

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like, this is my thing.

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You know, I spent a few years working on

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the manufacturing

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side, the Gulfstream side,

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the Bombardier side, just getting to know

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those products well,

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getting to know that the engineering

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piece of it, getting to

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know the design piece of it

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and the behind the scenes build like what

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they're doing, like the full process

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from design ideation to the delivery of

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the plane and what that

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looks like on their side.

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And then after about, you know, three to

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four years, I started then

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working on the customer side

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with brokers.

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So that way we're representing the

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clients and we're

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taking them to the facility.

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We're helping them find a facility and

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then we're taking them there

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and then we're representing

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them from we're doing their design.

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We're communicating that to the

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completion center and then we're

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following their bill for

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the price for quality

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control, schedule control,

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until delivery and then

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delivering it to our client.

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So like, I feel like it was such an

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important piece to be able

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to serve my clients better.

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Was to have the inside track, which was

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to have worked there

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and known the challenges

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that the facility faces and also what

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things I need to look for with just like,

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hey, we got to be really mindful about

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this quality because this

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is something that sometimes

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gets overlooked or something that could

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drag the schedule or

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could drag the costs,

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whatever that may be.

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Well, and I'm thinking about this.

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I'm thinking about this from the

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perspective of like,

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this isn't, you're not just going into

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somebody's house and

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picking out like drapes.

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This is, this has to be engineered.

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There are so many regulations or so many

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safety concerns or so

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many things where it's like,

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you know, yeah, I realize you want a

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jukebox, but you know, we're

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going to have to like figure

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out a way to bolt it down or like, you

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know, you can't just rip

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out the seats and put a

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lazy boy in, you know what I mean?

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Like there's all kinds

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of things to consider.

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So engineering wise, how

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do you approach all of that?

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Of course, like safety first and

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foremost, and you know, that's the

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beautiful part about aviation

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and also the tricky part is just that

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everything has, you know,

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everything has to have its

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certification.

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Everything has to have its place.

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Everything has to

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have taken all that into.

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Yeah.

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So you work then with the manufacturer.

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So if it's something that's like, like he

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brought up a jukebox or

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something out of the norm,

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yeah, then you're

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working with the manufacturer.

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Yeah.

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To try to figure out,

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hey, can we do this?

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And if we can, what does that look like?

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Yeah.

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For example, like, you know, if you, if I

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have a client that has a new Gulf stream,

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that's going to be built, right?

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A new Bombardier 7500 that's going to be

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built and we're sitting

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down in this design phase and

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they're like, you know, I want to have

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this custom, like you

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said, jukebox or custom system

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or whatever it may be something a little

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bit out of the norm or something special.

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We're taking that drawing it up, working

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on that design wise and then

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doing our due diligence and

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then passing that over to the completion

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center and saying, Hey,

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have you done this before?

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What would that look

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like to certify this?

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What would that look like cost

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wise, time wise, product wise?

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And, you know, sometimes it's a no,

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sometimes it's a

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let's see what we can do,

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but we're going to, we're going to run

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the gamut of whatever we can

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to see to make it possible.

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And, you know, sometimes it is a no.

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And that's really important because it

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means that they can't

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find a way to certify.

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They can't find a way to

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make it safe or functional.

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You don't want to put something on the

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aircraft and all of a

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sudden you're having electrical

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issues or lighting issues because you

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integrated something

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that you shouldn't have.

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And that's so important.

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It's like, and sometimes you have to find

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a creative way to say,

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no, we can't do that,

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but this is why.

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But here's an alternative option.

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We can come up with this though.

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There's other amazing.

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It's like, well, we can't have a shark in

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the saltwater fish tank, but.

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But.

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We can have a shark look more like it.

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Might be a place for

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sea horses, you know.

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Exactly. So what is the, I guess the most...

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Well, I mean, yeah.

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Well, I guess I guess.

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Bizarre? I don't know.

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Before we go there, I kind of want to,

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because like OEMs and like, you know,

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we've talked to people that do like, you

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know, maintenance

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programs on jets and et cetera.

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Right.

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A lot of them take it upon themselves to

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be like, oh, you want new upholstery?

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We got you.

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You know, it's like

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things like that, right?

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At what point do they

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need to come to you?

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At what point is it like?

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I mean, if you ask me, I think they

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01:07:38,254 --> 01:07:40,589
should come to me at every point, but.

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But I mean, there's gotta be

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some stuff that's just not,

290
01:07:42,291 --> 01:07:43,959
it's like, oh, you just need cup holders?

291
01:07:43,959 --> 01:07:45,628
I'm not your person, you know?

292
01:07:45,628 --> 01:07:46,796
Right. And the other thing is like, I

293
01:07:46,796 --> 01:07:47,563
would like to say that,

294
01:07:48,631 --> 01:07:50,499
try to be a little bit niche with that,

295
01:07:50,499 --> 01:07:52,201
which is, I really like to

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01:07:52,201 --> 01:07:54,703
do everything from scratch.

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01:07:54,904 --> 01:07:56,205
Like I really want to start, I really

298
01:07:56,205 --> 01:07:58,574
love a good, I know the

299
01:07:58,574 --> 01:08:00,042
aircraft, take it down to

300
01:08:00,576 --> 01:08:02,778
the bare bones and build it back together

301
01:08:02,778 --> 01:08:05,414
and, you know, an unrecognizable project.

302
01:08:05,448 --> 01:08:07,716
So I love that. And I do think that a lot

303
01:08:07,716 --> 01:08:08,851
of the referrals I get are

304
01:08:08,851 --> 01:08:10,052
a client that did something

305
01:08:10,052 --> 01:08:11,554
like that. And then they're like, you

306
01:08:11,554 --> 01:08:12,154
know, okay, you're

307
01:08:12,154 --> 01:08:13,155
buying the shoes, aircraft,

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01:08:13,689 --> 01:08:14,890
you've got to go to her. Cause she's

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01:08:14,890 --> 01:08:16,592
going to help you from the

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01:08:16,592 --> 01:08:18,127
ideation, the planning of that

311
01:08:18,494 --> 01:08:20,229
to the completion and like really get

312
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:21,263
into all those details

313
01:08:21,263 --> 01:08:22,331
and think of everything.

314
01:08:22,665 --> 01:08:24,066
And you know, sometimes there's clients,

315
01:08:24,066 --> 01:08:24,967
it's like, they're like, well,

316
01:08:24,967 --> 01:08:26,635
we're just looking to replace the carpet.

317
01:08:27,236 --> 01:08:28,704
Can we help them? Absolutely.

318
01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:32,108
But that might just be, you know, a quick

319
01:08:32,108 --> 01:08:33,409
piece you don't ever want.

320
01:08:33,442 --> 01:08:35,277
You want to service every client or

321
01:08:35,277 --> 01:08:36,011
whatever their need be.

322
01:08:36,245 --> 01:08:37,947
They're airplane. I have clients that

323
01:08:38,547 --> 01:08:40,549
they buy an aircraft and it's really in

324
01:08:40,549 --> 01:08:42,251
great condition. And so

325
01:08:42,251 --> 01:08:43,586
it's better of me to say,

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01:08:43,586 --> 01:08:45,287
let me help you with that carpet or let

327
01:08:45,287 --> 01:08:46,155
me help you with these,

328
01:08:46,555 --> 01:08:47,823
just recovering these seats.

329
01:08:48,090 --> 01:08:50,593
And let's revisit in a few years because

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01:08:50,593 --> 01:08:52,261
we can do it all. So I kind

331
01:08:52,261 --> 01:08:53,195
of try to take an approach

332
01:08:53,195 --> 01:08:55,331
like that. But you know, if someone's

333
01:08:55,331 --> 01:08:56,565
buying a used aircraft

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01:08:56,565 --> 01:08:57,666
from someone else, I'm like,

335
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,403
call me immediately so we can just get

336
01:09:01,403 --> 01:09:02,905
into it and make a plan.

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01:09:03,606 --> 01:09:05,107
When you're approaching these projects

338
01:09:05,107 --> 01:09:06,942
too, are people looking at these like,

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01:09:07,443 --> 01:09:10,846
is there a spectrum between like, get it

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01:09:10,846 --> 01:09:12,515
back to brand new shape?

341
01:09:13,115 --> 01:09:15,084
And then another side of the spectrum,

342
01:09:15,084 --> 01:09:16,285
I'm imagining just like

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01:09:16,285 --> 01:09:17,453
full pimp my ride mode.

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01:09:17,786 --> 01:09:20,789
Right. So like, where on that spectrum do

345
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:21,524
you usually operate?

346
01:09:21,891 --> 01:09:24,193
Well, I mean, I would always love to

347
01:09:24,193 --> 01:09:25,194
operate and pimp my

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01:09:25,194 --> 01:09:26,729
ride mode. That's the fun.

349
01:09:28,330 --> 01:09:29,765
But you know, it's really important

350
01:09:29,765 --> 01:09:31,700
because I love to work with not only

351
01:09:31,934 --> 01:09:34,170
clients and users, but I'm also working

352
01:09:34,170 --> 01:09:36,105
with a lot of brokers in the industry

353
01:09:36,572 --> 01:09:39,175
that they have aircraft that they've

354
01:09:39,175 --> 01:09:40,376
gotten a great deal on that

355
01:09:40,376 --> 01:09:42,978
they want to turn and sell fast.

356
01:09:43,445 --> 01:09:45,548
So, you know, we're doing less, but like,

357
01:09:45,548 --> 01:09:47,116
I try to just always think

358
01:09:47,116 --> 01:09:48,150
and like, I think that's where

359
01:09:48,150 --> 01:09:50,686
like that engineering rational side of my

360
01:09:50,686 --> 01:09:51,854
brain versus like, we can

361
01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:53,422
really go here, we can go here,

362
01:09:53,455 --> 01:09:55,891
just to think about, okay, this person,

363
01:09:55,891 --> 01:09:56,692
they want to spend this

364
01:09:56,692 --> 01:09:58,294
much. They need to make this,

365
01:09:58,294 --> 01:10:00,663
this and this look better and or function

366
01:10:00,663 --> 01:10:02,164
better for the sell.

367
01:10:02,665 --> 01:10:03,933
Right. Let's do that.

368
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,834
So you can't just be like, Oh, here's

369
01:10:05,834 --> 01:10:07,269
this beautiful $80,000

370
01:10:07,269 --> 01:10:08,337
carpet. This is going to be

371
01:10:08,337 --> 01:10:10,906
amazing. He's like, really? No. Like you

372
01:10:10,906 --> 01:10:12,408
find a good solution for

373
01:10:12,408 --> 01:10:13,642
that person to do what they

374
01:10:13,642 --> 01:10:15,678
need to do. Yeah. But and you know that

375
01:10:15,678 --> 01:10:16,745
like whoever purchases

376
01:10:16,745 --> 01:10:18,147
that for them is still going

377
01:10:18,147 --> 01:10:19,982
to be in good shape with the choices that

378
01:10:19,982 --> 01:10:21,917
you made. But then maybe

379
01:10:21,917 --> 01:10:23,219
then that client is like,

380
01:10:23,652 --> 01:10:25,688
Okay, this is a good looking aircraft.

381
01:10:25,688 --> 01:10:27,089
Like, but what else can

382
01:10:27,089 --> 01:10:28,290
we do? Right? But I mean,

383
01:10:28,290 --> 01:10:29,692
if you go too far in the whole like

384
01:10:29,692 --> 01:10:31,126
resale, and I got to be worried about

385
01:10:31,126 --> 01:10:31,660
that, that's how you end

386
01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:33,529
up with like beige carpet. Right? Like

387
01:10:33,529 --> 01:10:34,897
that's how that's how it ends up boring.

388
01:10:35,664 --> 01:10:38,067
Like I hesitate to say this on a podcast,

389
01:10:38,067 --> 01:10:38,968
but I'm just gonna do it

390
01:10:38,968 --> 01:10:40,936
anyway. Yeah. Like, I know

391
01:10:40,970 --> 01:10:43,305
resell to a lot of people is important.

392
01:10:43,305 --> 01:10:45,307
And I do value it. And

393
01:10:45,307 --> 01:10:47,176
clients ask about that a lot. And

394
01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:50,079
I do I give my honest opinion or I say

395
01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:51,547
like, Okay, you want to put

396
01:10:51,547 --> 01:10:53,882
in Starlink great resale value

397
01:10:53,882 --> 01:10:56,385
there. Sure. You want to change a carpet

398
01:10:56,385 --> 01:10:58,721
to orange? Maybe not. But

399
01:10:58,721 --> 01:11:00,656
do you want that carpet to be

400
01:11:00,656 --> 01:11:02,524
orange? Will you love that? Will you get

401
01:11:02,524 --> 01:11:04,026
the most out of it? Are you

402
01:11:04,026 --> 01:11:04,994
going to have this aircraft

403
01:11:05,527 --> 01:11:08,297
for five years? If you are the next

404
01:11:08,297 --> 01:11:10,165
person that buy it, they need to replace

405
01:11:10,165 --> 01:11:11,033
this carpet anyways.

406
01:11:11,734 --> 01:11:14,136
So like, get the orange. Do enjoy. Yeah,

407
01:11:14,136 --> 01:11:15,437
get what you want. Like,

408
01:11:15,604 --> 01:11:16,872
if you and there's people,

409
01:11:16,872 --> 01:11:18,307
you know, they have different uses, maybe

410
01:11:18,307 --> 01:11:19,308
it's a corporate use, and

411
01:11:19,308 --> 01:11:20,175
they really want to tone

412
01:11:20,175 --> 01:11:22,344
everything down. But if there's something

413
01:11:22,344 --> 01:11:23,345
they really love, and they

414
01:11:23,345 --> 01:11:24,580
want to go for it, I just

415
01:11:24,580 --> 01:11:26,915
try to give them the facts like, Hey, are

416
01:11:26,915 --> 01:11:27,916
you going to have this for

417
01:11:27,916 --> 01:11:31,086
five years? Yeah. Will you love

418
01:11:31,086 --> 01:11:32,821
this carpet for five years? Will you love

419
01:11:32,821 --> 01:11:33,756
these seats for five

420
01:11:33,756 --> 01:11:35,724
years? If so, the next person

421
01:11:35,758 --> 01:11:38,460
honestly needs to replace that. So nobody

422
01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:40,162
wants someone else's old

423
01:11:40,162 --> 01:11:43,032
seat. Yeah. Rug. Yeah. What

424
01:11:43,065 --> 01:11:45,067
would be absolutely fascinating to me

425
01:11:45,067 --> 01:11:48,070
would be to have you just

426
01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:49,371
sit down with Derek for like,

427
01:11:49,972 --> 01:11:51,907
a few minutes and ask him what he'd want

428
01:11:51,907 --> 01:11:53,175
in his airplane. I was

429
01:11:53,175 --> 01:11:54,576
about to do that just now.

430
01:11:55,911 --> 01:11:59,248
What are some of the options? What are

431
01:11:59,248 --> 01:12:01,283
some like, like, if I want to, if I'm

432
01:12:01,283 --> 01:12:02,151
like, you know what,

433
01:12:02,151 --> 01:12:04,053
I want when I get out, I want there to be

434
01:12:04,053 --> 01:12:06,288
a slide, you know, or like, I

435
01:12:06,288 --> 01:12:07,356
don't know, what are some of

436
01:12:07,389 --> 01:12:10,326
the things that emergency evacuation. I

437
01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:13,529
don't know. I was just gonna have fun.

438
01:12:14,263 --> 01:12:19,234
Yeah. Can we install a kegerator? Like,

439
01:12:19,234 --> 01:12:20,636
what are the options? What

440
01:12:20,636 --> 01:12:23,138
can we do? What are some of

441
01:12:23,138 --> 01:12:26,909
the things? Well, I guess, I guess if

442
01:12:26,909 --> 01:12:27,676
we're thinking about some

443
01:12:27,676 --> 01:12:28,177
of the things you've done

444
01:12:28,177 --> 01:12:29,545
in the past, like, give me some examples

445
01:12:29,545 --> 01:12:32,614
of, of like, you know,

446
01:12:32,715 --> 01:12:33,649
maybe what's the craziest

447
01:12:33,682 --> 01:12:35,718
thing you've installed? Or what's the or

448
01:12:35,718 --> 01:12:36,585
what are some things that

449
01:12:36,585 --> 01:12:38,187
like, come up pretty regularly

450
01:12:38,253 --> 01:12:40,389
that are just interesting things that

451
01:12:40,389 --> 01:12:41,590
you've done? Because I know people,

452
01:12:42,191 --> 01:12:43,792
people that have the kind

453
01:12:43,792 --> 01:12:46,729
of means to own their own jet and can get

454
01:12:46,729 --> 01:12:47,796
things the way they want.

455
01:12:48,263 --> 01:12:50,365
They have ideas. They have

456
01:12:50,365 --> 01:12:53,068
ideas, right? They have ideas. They have

457
01:12:53,068 --> 01:12:54,069
thoughts. Maybe I have some

458
01:12:54,069 --> 01:12:55,104
of my own ideas and I want to

459
01:12:55,104 --> 01:12:57,439
design a jet, you know, but but what are

460
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:58,941
some things that that people come up

461
01:12:58,941 --> 01:12:59,708
with? It's honestly,

462
01:12:59,875 --> 01:13:01,643
and that's what makes like every project

463
01:13:01,643 --> 01:13:02,978
fun and special is like

464
01:13:02,978 --> 01:13:04,446
depending on the client and like,

465
01:13:04,446 --> 01:13:05,914
what is their use of the plane? Like,

466
01:13:05,914 --> 01:13:07,316
sometimes they are doing like

467
01:13:07,316 --> 01:13:08,517
something really fun with it.

468
01:13:08,517 --> 01:13:11,220
Maybe it has a promotional value. Like, I

469
01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:12,921
had the pleasure of doing

470
01:13:12,921 --> 01:13:14,590
an aircraft for Puma Sports,

471
01:13:14,823 --> 01:13:16,558
Puma Basketball, and at that time they

472
01:13:16,558 --> 01:13:17,526
were launching this

473
01:13:17,526 --> 01:13:19,495
whole amazing like basketball

474
01:13:19,595 --> 01:13:22,364
shoe line for the NBA. And they were

475
01:13:22,364 --> 01:13:23,766
going to have members of that team. They

476
01:13:23,766 --> 01:13:24,366
were going to be using

477
01:13:24,433 --> 01:13:28,303
the jet to take them around and, you

478
01:13:28,303 --> 01:13:30,172
know, promotional value

479
01:13:30,172 --> 01:13:32,274
there. So we wanted to

480
01:13:33,041 --> 01:13:35,711
needed to have like the fastest Wi-Fi,

481
01:13:35,944 --> 01:13:37,279
needed a backup plan. Like you're

482
01:13:37,279 --> 01:13:38,013
thinking of all those

483
01:13:38,013 --> 01:13:39,848
things. They also wanted to have like,

484
01:13:39,848 --> 01:13:40,382
you know, we're going to

485
01:13:40,382 --> 01:13:41,550
highlight some of these cool

486
01:13:41,550 --> 01:13:43,485
sneakers. Like, so we need a credenza

487
01:13:43,485 --> 01:13:45,721
with special lights. We're going to put

488
01:13:45,721 --> 01:13:47,356
the shoes there so that

489
01:13:47,356 --> 01:13:48,824
like when the players are on you get

490
01:13:48,824 --> 01:13:49,525
like, you see this

491
01:13:49,525 --> 01:13:51,093
person shoe, this person shoe.

492
01:13:51,493 --> 01:13:53,495
So that kind of stuff is fun. Like when I

493
01:13:53,495 --> 01:13:54,730
hear someone say that,

494
01:13:54,730 --> 01:13:55,964
I'm like, oh, I'm into that.

495
01:13:55,964 --> 01:13:57,566
Like, let's see what we can do. Or if

496
01:13:57,566 --> 01:13:59,635
someone, and I feel like I've gotten

497
01:13:59,635 --> 01:14:01,770
really fortunate that

498
01:14:01,770 --> 01:14:03,806
I've had a lot of clients that were like

499
01:14:03,806 --> 01:14:05,107
very brand heavy and they

500
01:14:05,107 --> 01:14:06,575
had like strong branding

501
01:14:06,575 --> 01:14:08,143
that they wanted to carry out in the

502
01:14:08,143 --> 01:14:10,479
aircraft. And I've enjoyed doing that,

503
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,046
you know, when you have

504
01:14:11,046 --> 01:14:14,750
like the Rolex, the WWE, Puma, New

505
01:14:14,750 --> 01:14:15,884
Balance shoes, Nike,

506
01:14:15,884 --> 01:14:17,052
whatever it may be like that,

507
01:14:17,252 --> 01:14:18,987
that's really fun to like dig into that

508
01:14:18,987 --> 01:14:19,755
because they have this

509
01:14:19,755 --> 01:14:20,956
established brand and you're like,

510
01:14:20,989 --> 01:14:22,891
how do I take that into the aircraft?

511
01:14:23,492 --> 01:14:25,060
That's for me, that's fun.

512
01:14:25,794 --> 01:14:27,129
I'm not toning that down,

513
01:14:27,129 --> 01:14:30,165
like ramping that up. But yeah, so you

514
01:14:30,165 --> 01:14:31,934
know, you have your maybe you have your

515
01:14:31,934 --> 01:14:33,068
custom shoe credenza.

516
01:14:35,037 --> 01:14:37,105
Like for Paris Hilton's aircraft, we had

517
01:14:37,105 --> 01:14:38,807
one of her custom eye

518
01:14:38,807 --> 01:14:40,809
masks, bridge like made into the

519
01:14:40,809 --> 01:14:42,878
credenza. So when the passengers come on,

520
01:14:42,878 --> 01:14:44,413
they have her skincare line

521
01:14:44,413 --> 01:14:46,381
there, they can grab a cool eye

522
01:14:46,415 --> 01:14:49,151
mask or the mini fridge and like, you

523
01:14:49,151 --> 01:14:50,319
know, she's treating them well

524
01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:51,453
on there. I wonder why I love

525
01:14:51,453 --> 01:14:53,689
playing. So like that kind of stuff is so

526
01:14:53,689 --> 01:14:55,791
special and fun. Yeah. Well,

527
01:14:55,791 --> 01:14:56,758
tell me, because you brought

528
01:14:56,758 --> 01:14:58,093
it up. So tell me about that project,

529
01:14:58,093 --> 01:14:58,927
right? So one of the things

530
01:14:58,927 --> 01:15:00,696
that that has been going around

531
01:15:00,696 --> 01:15:02,064
on social media a little bit lately has

532
01:15:02,064 --> 01:15:03,131
been the recent project you

533
01:15:03,131 --> 01:15:04,366
did for Paris Hilton's plane.

534
01:15:05,868 --> 01:15:08,570
And I've seen it, it looks amazing. Can

535
01:15:08,570 --> 01:15:09,571
you tell me about it?

536
01:15:09,571 --> 01:15:10,739
They have a wonderful family,

537
01:15:11,206 --> 01:15:14,443
a wonderful brand. I just loved digging

538
01:15:14,443 --> 01:15:15,978
and getting that getting

539
01:15:15,978 --> 01:15:18,046
into my inner pink with

540
01:15:18,113 --> 01:15:20,949
that. Yeah, that project that was that

541
01:15:20,949 --> 01:15:22,484
was amazing. They were she was a

542
01:15:22,484 --> 01:15:24,152
wonderful client to work with,

543
01:15:24,686 --> 01:15:27,356
as was her husband. What are some what

544
01:15:27,356 --> 01:15:28,090
are some of the specific

545
01:15:28,090 --> 01:15:30,192
outside of the, you know, the

546
01:15:30,325 --> 01:15:33,662
credenza with the masks and things? What

547
01:15:33,662 --> 01:15:34,930
are some of the custom

548
01:15:34,930 --> 01:15:36,365
things that they want it done?

549
01:15:37,132 --> 01:15:39,034
So, you know, he bought this present,

550
01:15:39,368 --> 01:15:40,335
this aircraft for her as a

551
01:15:40,335 --> 01:15:42,571
present, and they bought a used

552
01:15:42,571 --> 01:15:44,072
aircraft and they're like, let's just got

553
01:15:44,072 --> 01:15:45,407
it. Yeah, we're gonna put

554
01:15:45,407 --> 01:15:46,475
all the latest and greatest

555
01:15:46,475 --> 01:15:48,043
systems, all the latest and greatest

556
01:15:48,043 --> 01:15:49,311
materials, we want this to

557
01:15:49,311 --> 01:15:52,714
be her, her brand, her, every,

558
01:15:53,615 --> 01:15:56,618
everything that she embodies. Yeah. So,

559
01:15:56,952 --> 01:15:59,054
you know, even from

560
01:15:59,054 --> 01:16:00,322
the moment you get on,

561
01:16:00,989 --> 01:16:02,324
it's, of course, just the small

562
01:16:02,324 --> 01:16:04,893
customizations, like custom format,

563
01:16:05,193 --> 01:16:05,727
you're walking through the

564
01:16:05,761 --> 01:16:08,730
galley, every glass, her brand, heart,

565
01:16:09,031 --> 01:16:12,367
pink, the, there's a custom headliner

566
01:16:12,367 --> 01:16:13,835
with hummingbirds on

567
01:16:13,835 --> 01:16:16,004
it that Tapas Corporation did this

568
01:16:16,004 --> 01:16:17,873
gorgeous and that's going from the front

569
01:16:17,873 --> 01:16:18,740
to the back and it's

570
01:16:18,740 --> 01:16:20,409
a gradient. So by the time you get to

571
01:16:20,409 --> 01:16:21,910
that lavatory, it's all

572
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:24,379
pink clouds. So that's just

573
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,481
these type of details that were so fun.

574
01:16:26,815 --> 01:16:28,951
Every seat belt has a

575
01:16:28,951 --> 01:16:31,420
custom Paris logo. Nice. Itched

576
01:16:31,453 --> 01:16:34,489
onto it. Even the backs of the seat has

577
01:16:34,489 --> 01:16:36,825
her custom Paris sparkle is

578
01:16:36,825 --> 01:16:38,226
embroidered in all of the seats

579
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,729
from the headrest to the bottom cushion

580
01:16:40,729 --> 01:16:44,633
to every cup insert has a different

581
01:16:44,633 --> 01:16:46,034
message on it inside

582
01:16:46,168 --> 01:16:49,071
that's related to her brand. All of the

583
01:16:49,071 --> 01:16:51,006
leather was dyed pink to

584
01:16:51,006 --> 01:16:52,975
her custom pink color that's

585
01:16:53,609 --> 01:16:55,210
patent to her. Yeah, and I think that's

586
01:16:55,210 --> 01:16:56,144
the thing that, you know, when you see

587
01:16:56,144 --> 01:16:56,445
it, that's one of the

588
01:16:56,478 --> 01:16:57,879
first things that stands out. It's like,

589
01:16:57,879 --> 01:17:00,115
wow, like I haven't seen a

590
01:17:00,115 --> 01:17:02,718
jet that had pink leather in it.

591
01:17:02,718 --> 01:17:05,253
This color. Yeah. And I feel like we did

592
01:17:05,253 --> 01:17:07,322
it in a tasteful way. It's like, you

593
01:17:07,322 --> 01:17:08,090
know, you don't look

594
01:17:08,090 --> 01:17:10,158
on and it's these bright pink seats and

595
01:17:10,158 --> 01:17:12,294
you know, it's just like the small

596
01:17:12,294 --> 01:17:13,595
details like the gray

597
01:17:13,595 --> 01:17:15,430
seats with the pink piping and then you

598
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:17,032
go into the aft and there's

599
01:17:17,032 --> 01:17:18,433
like these beautiful divands,

600
01:17:18,433 --> 01:17:20,702
but they have these pink armrests. Like,

601
01:17:21,003 --> 01:17:24,506
I feel like even though

602
01:17:24,506 --> 01:17:25,574
it was a small bit of pink,

603
01:17:25,607 --> 01:17:27,309
it was like done in a powerful way and

604
01:17:27,309 --> 01:17:28,310
same as the carpet. The

605
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:30,045
carpet has her custom pattern on

606
01:17:30,045 --> 01:17:32,614
it with the pink, the pink sparkles and

607
01:17:32,614 --> 01:17:35,450
everything is, everything is just

608
01:17:35,450 --> 01:17:37,786
tailored to her. Yeah. And

609
01:17:38,387 --> 01:17:40,555
even when you open the drawers and the

610
01:17:40,555 --> 01:17:42,391
lavatory, there's a custom

611
01:17:42,391 --> 01:17:44,026
leather there, custom patterns.

612
01:17:44,026 --> 01:17:46,895
It's like, you can't open up a cabinet or

613
01:17:46,895 --> 01:17:47,896
look at the surface in

614
01:17:47,896 --> 01:17:49,064
that plane that doesn't have

615
01:17:49,064 --> 01:17:51,433
something unique and custom to her there.

616
01:17:51,433 --> 01:17:53,301
And that that's fun. Where

617
01:17:53,301 --> 01:17:54,069
do you start on projects?

618
01:17:54,069 --> 01:17:55,971
Like, like they'll come to you and

619
01:17:55,971 --> 01:17:57,172
they'll be like, here's our brand

620
01:17:57,172 --> 01:17:58,440
guidelines. Can you,

621
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:00,375
I mean, is that, is that kind of what it

622
01:18:00,375 --> 01:18:01,710
is? Sometimes it's like

623
01:18:01,710 --> 01:18:02,778
you, especially if it is

624
01:18:02,778 --> 01:18:04,513
for a brand, you do need to know their

625
01:18:04,513 --> 01:18:05,480
guidelines, understand

626
01:18:05,480 --> 01:18:07,816
them. You know, obviously we all

627
01:18:08,383 --> 01:18:11,486
have the, our own logos, even as we know

628
01:18:11,486 --> 01:18:12,688
you have your logo, you don't want to

629
01:18:12,688 --> 01:18:14,122
compromise that. Like

630
01:18:14,122 --> 01:18:15,390
that's really important to you. You don't

631
01:18:15,390 --> 01:18:16,925
want to, so it's just like,

632
01:18:17,125 --> 01:18:18,427
what are they comfortable with,

633
01:18:18,427 --> 01:18:20,195
with the play upon that and how do we

634
01:18:20,195 --> 01:18:21,430
incorporate in the jet? So,

635
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:22,297
you know, you might start with a

636
01:18:22,330 --> 01:18:24,199
brand guideline or you might have a

637
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:28,770
client like, like Paris or Puma or

638
01:18:28,770 --> 01:18:30,272
whoever it may be that they

639
01:18:30,272 --> 01:18:32,140
have a very strong brand presence and

640
01:18:32,140 --> 01:18:34,276
they already had it and you know it. All

641
01:18:34,276 --> 01:18:35,811
you have to do is one

642
01:18:35,811 --> 01:18:37,512
click on Google and like it's very

643
01:18:37,512 --> 01:18:41,016
apparent, like their strong brand and she

644
01:18:41,016 --> 01:18:42,017
has a very strong brand.

645
01:18:42,217 --> 01:18:45,287
So you kind of take that and a million

646
01:18:45,287 --> 01:18:47,756
ideas come rushing to your head and you

647
01:18:47,756 --> 01:18:48,690
start trying to pair

648
01:18:48,724 --> 01:18:51,460
those down. Well, how much of it is

649
01:18:51,460 --> 01:18:53,095
collaborative where you're working with

650
01:18:53,095 --> 01:18:54,229
them and how much, I

651
01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:56,465
mean, what's the process like? You know,

652
01:18:56,465 --> 01:18:57,966
I say it's both depending

653
01:18:57,966 --> 01:18:59,067
on, you know, there's sometimes

654
01:18:59,067 --> 01:19:02,237
there's a client that they don't have

655
01:19:02,237 --> 01:19:04,306
time to work on that or nor do

656
01:19:04,306 --> 01:19:05,440
they want to. They're saying,

657
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,209
I hired you, you're the expert. Go do it.

658
01:19:07,209 --> 01:19:08,643
Give me your ideas. I want

659
01:19:08,643 --> 01:19:10,011
to see what you think about it

660
01:19:10,011 --> 01:19:12,280
at first glance and then a lot of times

661
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:13,348
it's very collaborative

662
01:19:13,348 --> 01:19:15,650
because it's so important to them

663
01:19:15,684 --> 01:19:17,886
and they enjoy the involvement and person

664
01:19:17,886 --> 01:19:18,954
is that way. Like I

665
01:19:18,954 --> 01:19:20,889
initially came up with some ideas

666
01:19:20,889 --> 01:19:23,024
and presented it and so she was very

667
01:19:23,024 --> 01:19:25,060
involved with giving like a few like

668
01:19:25,060 --> 01:19:26,261
wishes and things that she

669
01:19:26,261 --> 01:19:28,663
liked or likes, didn't likes and she has

670
01:19:28,663 --> 01:19:30,132
like a wonderful branding

671
01:19:30,132 --> 01:19:31,266
team that works for her,

672
01:19:31,266 --> 01:19:33,135
of course, on everything that she does.

673
01:19:33,869 --> 01:19:35,036
So you got to work with her

674
01:19:35,036 --> 01:19:35,937
team and you get to work with

675
01:19:35,937 --> 01:19:37,639
her team and they're all amazing, like

676
01:19:37,639 --> 01:19:39,541
creative geniuses. So

677
01:19:39,541 --> 01:19:41,209
that's, that's nice. If every,

678
01:19:41,376 --> 01:19:44,880
if every client had a team like that.

679
01:19:45,614 --> 01:19:48,416
Yeah. So, so it's in that case, it's,

680
01:19:48,416 --> 01:19:49,251
it's a lot of collaboration

681
01:19:49,251 --> 01:19:50,519
with that team. A lot of collaboration,

682
01:19:50,519 --> 01:19:51,253
which is so important

683
01:19:51,253 --> 01:19:52,821
because you really want the product

684
01:19:52,821 --> 01:19:54,523
at the end to be everything they wanted

685
01:19:54,523 --> 01:19:55,991
to be. And like these are

686
01:19:55,991 --> 01:19:57,893
the people and they know her

687
01:19:57,893 --> 01:19:59,728
well, they know the brand and you don't

688
01:19:59,728 --> 01:20:00,729
want to venture off from

689
01:20:00,729 --> 01:20:01,763
that. Like if that's really

690
01:20:01,763 --> 01:20:03,064
important, like you want to make sure

691
01:20:03,064 --> 01:20:04,666
that you have just amplified

692
01:20:04,666 --> 01:20:06,101
that brand. Totally don't want

693
01:20:06,101 --> 01:20:07,769
to miss it. Yeah, you don't want to miss

694
01:20:07,769 --> 01:20:09,471
that. And you, I mean, I love

695
01:20:09,471 --> 01:20:10,705
it when you go into a space and

696
01:20:10,705 --> 01:20:13,775
it's very clear where you are, what brand

697
01:20:13,775 --> 01:20:17,112
it is. So I enjoy that.

698
01:20:17,379 --> 01:20:18,914
What are, what are some, some,

699
01:20:20,549 --> 01:20:23,051
I don't know, I hesitate to say, what's

700
01:20:23,051 --> 01:20:24,286
the most insane thing you've

701
01:20:24,286 --> 01:20:25,687
installed in a plane? But I

702
01:20:25,687 --> 01:20:27,389
mean, like, do you have any examples of

703
01:20:27,389 --> 01:20:29,324
things like that? Well,

704
01:20:30,091 --> 01:20:31,426
outside of, I mean, obviously

705
01:20:31,426 --> 01:20:32,794
people are going to want, you know, their

706
01:20:32,794 --> 01:20:34,796
brand colors in their,

707
01:20:34,796 --> 01:20:36,932
their aesthetic applied to the

708
01:20:36,965 --> 01:20:38,934
plane. But are there other things that

709
01:20:38,934 --> 01:20:40,902
people are looking for? There's

710
01:20:40,902 --> 01:20:42,103
definitely other things.

711
01:20:43,772 --> 01:20:45,407
I mean, I hope it's okay to tell this

712
01:20:45,407 --> 01:20:47,742
story, but you know, I was, I

713
01:20:47,742 --> 01:20:49,978
was young. I love that on the

714
01:20:49,978 --> 01:20:53,648
show. If it's okay. So, you know, if

715
01:20:53,648 --> 01:20:54,983
like, and maybe I would be

716
01:20:54,983 --> 01:20:56,351
the same way if you have,

717
01:20:56,651 --> 01:20:58,153
you've purchased this aircraft, you've

718
01:20:58,153 --> 01:20:59,354
worked so hard for it

719
01:20:59,354 --> 01:21:00,388
your whole life. Like

720
01:21:00,956 --> 01:21:03,558
you want to do what you want to do on the

721
01:21:03,558 --> 01:21:05,594
inside and the outside. So

722
01:21:05,594 --> 01:21:08,563
I've been doing this about 19

723
01:21:08,563 --> 01:21:10,065
years. I was a little younger when this

724
01:21:10,065 --> 01:21:12,267
happened, but I had a

725
01:21:12,267 --> 01:21:14,769
client ask me for my very first

726
01:21:15,203 --> 01:21:17,973
stripper pole to be installed in a G450

727
01:21:17,973 --> 01:21:20,976
in the back. And my first

728
01:21:20,976 --> 01:21:22,477
thought, and they asked me,

729
01:21:22,477 --> 01:21:23,812
they didn't ask me in an email, they

730
01:21:23,812 --> 01:21:25,914
asked me in person in front of their

731
01:21:25,914 --> 01:21:27,249
whole entourage. And so,

732
01:21:27,315 --> 01:21:31,820
you know, here's 12 to 15 or so guys just

733
01:21:31,820 --> 01:21:33,455
looking at you speaking

734
01:21:33,455 --> 01:21:35,523
another language. Okay. You know,

735
01:21:35,523 --> 01:21:36,992
here's the interpreter and you're like,

736
01:21:36,992 --> 01:21:38,126
first thoughts,

737
01:21:38,493 --> 01:21:40,228
engineering wise, structurally,

738
01:21:40,228 --> 01:21:42,364
how do we do that? What location? I was

739
01:21:42,364 --> 01:21:44,132
like, and what location were

740
01:21:44,132 --> 01:21:45,467
you going to have that like in

741
01:21:45,467 --> 01:21:48,570
the back and the aft cabin? And I'm

742
01:21:48,570 --> 01:21:50,772
thinking, well, there's not

743
01:21:50,772 --> 01:21:51,907
gonna be any room for any seats.

744
01:21:52,407 --> 01:21:54,009
Like I was like, okay, so interpreter

745
01:21:54,009 --> 01:21:55,210
like, Hey, you know where

746
01:21:55,210 --> 01:21:56,378
we'd have to, if you're really

747
01:21:56,411 --> 01:21:57,946
going to make use of this, we'd be to

748
01:21:57,946 --> 01:21:58,880
remove these seats. So

749
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,248
then you're losing, you know,

750
01:22:00,348 --> 01:22:01,883
four passengers, six passengers,

751
01:22:02,083 --> 01:22:03,918
depending on your, so it's funny. It's

752
01:22:03,918 --> 01:22:04,519
sort of just judging

753
01:22:04,519 --> 01:22:06,187
the fact that they wanted it. You're just

754
01:22:06,187 --> 01:22:06,755
like, I don't think

755
01:22:06,755 --> 01:22:08,490
that's where we do it.

756
01:22:09,024 --> 01:22:10,959
It becomes like an engineering, like,

757
01:22:10,959 --> 01:22:11,793
this is your dream.

758
01:22:12,027 --> 01:22:13,261
This is your plane. Like,

759
01:22:13,261 --> 01:22:16,364
sure. Absolutely. You worked hard your

760
01:22:16,364 --> 01:22:17,365
whole life. If you're

761
01:22:17,365 --> 01:22:18,266
going to stripper bowl,

762
01:22:18,266 --> 01:22:19,434
we're going to get you a stripper. I'm

763
01:22:19,434 --> 01:22:21,436
not here to judge. That's not my job.

764
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:24,472
Um, there's a higher power for that. No

765
01:22:24,472 --> 01:22:25,607
judgment coming from me.

766
01:22:25,607 --> 01:22:26,508
You want to strip purple.

767
01:22:26,975 --> 01:22:28,743
I'm going to figure out a way to do it,

768
01:22:28,743 --> 01:22:30,679
make that work. But I have

769
01:22:30,679 --> 01:22:32,514
questions like, you know,

770
01:22:33,114 --> 01:22:35,016
so I had questions. I said, you know,

771
01:22:35,016 --> 01:22:35,784
like you're going to lose

772
01:22:35,784 --> 01:22:37,118
these seats. Like, is that,

773
01:22:37,118 --> 01:22:39,154
you know, this is the passengers are

774
01:22:39,154 --> 01:22:40,522
important. There's a large group of

775
01:22:40,522 --> 01:22:41,356
people here. It seems

776
01:22:41,356 --> 01:22:42,724
like you're traveling with a lot of

777
01:22:42,724 --> 01:22:44,025
people. Like, where are they going to

778
01:22:44,025 --> 01:22:45,260
sit? So like, you know,

779
01:22:45,260 --> 01:22:47,796
you have to give them the facts. Sure. So

780
01:22:47,796 --> 01:22:48,663
I say to the interpreter,

781
01:22:48,663 --> 01:22:49,564
you know, these are some of

782
01:22:49,597 --> 01:22:51,333
the things I'm, I just want them to be

783
01:22:51,333 --> 01:22:53,034
aware of because we move

784
01:22:53,034 --> 01:22:53,969
forward with this. It's going to

785
01:22:53,969 --> 01:22:55,904
be very expensive. It's going to be a lot

786
01:22:55,904 --> 01:22:56,871
of changes structurally.

787
01:22:57,172 --> 01:22:59,074
And then granted when you

788
01:22:59,441 --> 01:23:01,376
back to reselling, but like you go to

789
01:23:01,376 --> 01:23:02,110
reselling, there's no

790
01:23:02,110 --> 01:23:04,112
seats back there. So, you know,

791
01:23:04,112 --> 01:23:05,413
there's going to be some things I want

792
01:23:05,413 --> 01:23:06,848
them to be aware of. One

793
01:23:06,848 --> 01:23:08,049
thing is like, logistically,

794
01:23:08,049 --> 01:23:09,584
will this be that much fun? They're going

795
01:23:09,584 --> 01:23:10,218
to, you know, there's not

796
01:23:10,218 --> 01:23:11,252
that much room in the plane.

797
01:23:12,153 --> 01:23:14,022
Whatever the interpreter says, they think

798
01:23:14,022 --> 01:23:15,590
that I say the group

799
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:17,092
thinks that I said that I was

800
01:23:17,125 --> 01:23:20,495
suggesting that they get little people as

801
01:23:20,495 --> 01:23:21,396
strippers. I said, you

802
01:23:21,396 --> 01:23:23,398
know what, this is going to,

803
01:23:24,232 --> 01:23:25,633
it's going to the next time. So this was,

804
01:23:25,633 --> 01:23:27,202
this was not, so there's

805
01:23:27,202 --> 01:23:28,703
an interpreter. So like,

806
01:23:28,703 --> 01:23:31,373
they're not even speaking English to you.

807
01:23:31,639 --> 01:23:32,107
They're speaking through

808
01:23:32,107 --> 01:23:32,907
an interpreter and you're

809
01:23:32,907 --> 01:23:34,042
speaking back through that interpreter.

810
01:23:34,275 --> 01:23:35,176
And we're trying to figure it

811
01:23:35,176 --> 01:23:36,778
out. So I would love to have

812
01:23:36,778 --> 01:23:40,315
been in that room. And I'm looking at the

813
01:23:40,315 --> 01:23:42,617
inter, you know, I'm read as it be like,

814
01:23:42,784 --> 01:23:44,886
that embarrassed room full of men talking

815
01:23:44,886 --> 01:23:46,454
about this. They're looking at me like,

816
01:23:46,788 --> 01:23:48,523
is she shocked? Is she not shocked? Does

817
01:23:48,523 --> 01:23:50,492
she love it? And I'm

818
01:23:50,492 --> 01:23:51,793
looking at the interpreter like,

819
01:23:51,793 --> 01:23:53,628
are you really saying what I said?

820
01:23:53,628 --> 01:23:54,396
Because that doesn't feel

821
01:23:54,396 --> 01:23:55,964
like you said what I said.

822
01:23:55,964 --> 01:23:58,033
A little like here we are, you know, like

823
01:23:58,033 --> 01:23:59,334
what kind of a room is it?

824
01:23:59,634 --> 01:24:01,803
But yeah, so that happened.

825
01:24:02,170 --> 01:24:03,138
Did you do it? Did

826
01:24:03,138 --> 01:24:05,273
you make it happen? Yes.

827
01:24:06,374 --> 01:24:08,042
We will always make it happen. That's

828
01:24:08,042 --> 01:24:09,244
great. That's great. You know,

829
01:24:09,310 --> 01:24:10,812
everything is that everything is like

830
01:24:10,812 --> 01:24:12,614
time and money. You figure it out.

831
01:24:12,881 --> 01:24:14,482
It's a problem solving thing, right? Like

832
01:24:14,482 --> 01:24:15,116
if you're, if you're

833
01:24:15,116 --> 01:24:16,151
approaching it from an engineering

834
01:24:16,251 --> 01:24:18,953
standpoint, it's not like, is this cool

835
01:24:18,953 --> 01:24:20,188
or should I do it? Or is

836
01:24:20,188 --> 01:24:21,322
it even ethical or whatever?

837
01:24:22,123 --> 01:24:23,625
But it's, it's just like from an

838
01:24:23,625 --> 01:24:24,492
engineering standpoint, it's

839
01:24:24,492 --> 01:24:25,960
not for you to decide like what

840
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:27,162
they should or shouldn't do. It's like,

841
01:24:27,162 --> 01:24:28,530
what do they want? Can you make it

842
01:24:28,530 --> 01:24:29,364
happen? And sometimes

843
01:24:29,364 --> 01:24:30,532
I'm like, I don't want to be the

844
01:24:30,532 --> 01:24:31,833
designer. I want to be the problem

845
01:24:31,833 --> 01:24:33,268
solver. Like, and that's part of

846
01:24:33,268 --> 01:24:34,736
it. It's like, you don't want to just be

847
01:24:34,736 --> 01:24:35,970
like, I'm, yes, I'm going

848
01:24:35,970 --> 01:24:37,672
to manage your, the quality,

849
01:24:37,839 --> 01:24:41,076
your budget, the schedule, the design,

850
01:24:41,543 --> 01:24:42,644
the delivery, even after

851
01:24:42,644 --> 01:24:44,412
the delivery, but like solve

852
01:24:44,412 --> 01:24:46,481
their problems. Like it's more than just

853
01:24:46,481 --> 01:24:47,482
picking out some materials.

854
01:24:47,482 --> 01:24:49,250
You'd have to be a problem

855
01:24:49,250 --> 01:24:51,419
solver. Be the person they go to for

856
01:24:51,419 --> 01:24:52,720
everything related to that.

857
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,189
And you solve the issue. Have

858
01:24:54,189 --> 01:24:56,024
you learned that? I'll figure it out.

859
01:24:56,024 --> 01:24:57,225
That's my job to figure it

860
01:24:57,225 --> 01:24:58,293
out. It's not for you to stress

861
01:24:58,293 --> 01:25:00,562
about. Have you ever had to tell somebody

862
01:25:00,562 --> 01:25:03,565
no? Definitely have had to

863
01:25:03,565 --> 01:25:05,567
tell someone no, but just

864
01:25:06,568 --> 01:25:09,504
in a more understanding and creative way,

865
01:25:09,504 --> 01:25:11,272
you say, okay, this we

866
01:25:11,272 --> 01:25:12,841
can't do, but compromise.

867
01:25:13,308 --> 01:25:14,909
Yeah. Here's what we could do instead.

868
01:25:15,543 --> 01:25:16,845
Here's a solution. And I

869
01:25:16,845 --> 01:25:18,413
definitely, because I, I feel

870
01:25:18,413 --> 01:25:20,515
like when I, I have to, of course, then I

871
01:25:20,515 --> 01:25:22,584
become the middleman, which

872
01:25:22,584 --> 01:25:24,385
is here's the facility. Here's

873
01:25:24,385 --> 01:25:26,121
the standard arrow, the West star, the

874
01:25:26,121 --> 01:25:27,522
Gulf stream, the Bombardier.

875
01:25:27,922 --> 01:25:29,491
Yeah. Here's the client. Here's

876
01:25:29,491 --> 01:25:33,194
you. So you're telling them yes and, or

877
01:25:33,194 --> 01:25:34,429
maybe, and then you're

878
01:25:34,429 --> 01:25:35,096
going over here and they want to

879
01:25:35,530 --> 01:25:39,467
say, do you know, or I don't like it. So

880
01:25:39,467 --> 01:25:40,502
I don't want to do you have

881
01:25:40,502 --> 01:25:41,369
any examples of things that

882
01:25:41,369 --> 01:25:42,937
are like so out there that you're like,

883
01:25:42,937 --> 01:25:44,572
there's no way we can put a Jacuzzi in

884
01:25:44,572 --> 01:25:45,473
the back of this thing.

885
01:25:45,473 --> 01:25:49,477
You can, you can't. How would that work?

886
01:25:49,477 --> 01:25:50,278
Because the water will slash

887
01:25:50,278 --> 01:25:51,746
out if you gotta do things.

888
01:25:51,980 --> 01:25:53,448
Tell about the electric covers. It does

889
01:25:53,448 --> 01:25:55,650
do that. I totally want to

890
01:25:55,650 --> 01:25:56,885
get a jet with a Jacuzzi now.

891
01:25:57,085 --> 01:25:59,654
Sure. Yeah. See, it tells you. But you

892
01:25:59,654 --> 01:26:01,322
know, it's very, the extra

893
01:26:01,322 --> 01:26:03,091
water tank you need is very heavy

894
01:26:03,124 --> 01:26:04,859
and then that affects your range. So it's

895
01:26:04,859 --> 01:26:05,693
like, you know, people have

896
01:26:05,693 --> 01:26:08,329
done this and there's even

897
01:26:08,329 --> 01:26:10,832
like, you know, we had like a BBJ that we

898
01:26:10,832 --> 01:26:12,167
put a steam shower in. So

899
01:26:12,167 --> 01:26:13,301
it's like, you need extra

900
01:26:13,301 --> 01:26:15,603
water for that. So like you really, yes

901
01:26:15,603 --> 01:26:18,106
is the answer, but here's

902
01:26:18,106 --> 01:26:19,207
like, it has, you're going to

903
01:26:19,207 --> 01:26:20,775
lose something. Yeah. You have to tell

904
01:26:20,775 --> 01:26:21,676
your clients like the whole

905
01:26:21,676 --> 01:26:23,311
picture, like sure. We need,

906
01:26:23,311 --> 01:26:25,113
we need additional water tanks for this.

907
01:26:25,113 --> 01:26:26,381
That's going to change.

908
01:26:26,381 --> 01:26:28,316
That's the cost. That's the

909
01:26:28,316 --> 01:26:30,151
weight changes to this much. Therefore,

910
01:26:30,151 --> 01:26:31,686
if you're trying to go here

911
01:26:31,686 --> 01:26:32,954
to here, like that changes

912
01:26:33,054 --> 01:26:35,223
your range. So you're going to have to

913
01:26:35,223 --> 01:26:37,192
fuel more like knowing all

914
01:26:37,192 --> 01:26:38,626
these things. Do you want to do

915
01:26:38,626 --> 01:26:40,828
it? If you do, oh, you want a massage

916
01:26:40,828 --> 01:26:42,330
table. You want to have a treadmill. You

917
01:26:42,330 --> 01:26:44,165
want, yes, yes, yes.

918
01:26:44,666 --> 01:26:48,436
But here's the compromises. Right. And I

919
01:26:48,436 --> 01:26:49,270
think that we get into

920
01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:51,639
that. It's like, you know, with

921
01:26:51,639 --> 01:26:53,107
like the football teams, the basketball

922
01:26:53,107 --> 01:26:54,475
team, soccer, like, you

923
01:26:54,475 --> 01:26:55,710
know, they're spending so much

924
01:26:55,710 --> 01:26:58,413
of their time traveling and it's such a

925
01:26:58,413 --> 01:26:59,614
toll on your body. We all

926
01:26:59,614 --> 01:27:01,516
know. So they might need those

927
01:27:01,549 --> 01:27:03,618
resources. They need the doctor on board.

928
01:27:03,618 --> 01:27:04,352
They need the treatment

929
01:27:04,352 --> 01:27:05,753
table, the massage table,

930
01:27:05,853 --> 01:27:07,388
because, you know, their time is so

931
01:27:07,388 --> 01:27:08,556
valuable. You're going from

932
01:27:08,556 --> 01:27:10,325
this city to this city to this

933
01:27:10,325 --> 01:27:12,493
city. They're playing like back to back

934
01:27:12,493 --> 01:27:14,195
games. Sometimes it would be

935
01:27:14,195 --> 01:27:15,897
nice if they can, you know,

936
01:27:15,897 --> 01:27:17,365
everything can be done on board the

937
01:27:17,365 --> 01:27:18,800
aircraft. It's like, there's just so

938
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,769
much, you know, time wasted.

939
01:27:21,970 --> 01:27:24,472
Right. That's three hours, they're in the

940
01:27:24,472 --> 01:27:26,140
air and they need to do

941
01:27:26,140 --> 01:27:27,342
something. Yeah. And then our job

942
01:27:27,375 --> 01:27:29,410
is to figure out like the weights of

943
01:27:29,410 --> 01:27:31,045
things. Like how can we make all of this

944
01:27:31,045 --> 01:27:31,846
furniture like really

945
01:27:31,846 --> 01:27:33,514
lightweight because we already have like

946
01:27:33,514 --> 01:27:34,916
full passengers. So we

947
01:27:34,916 --> 01:27:36,851
know, you know, the do they need

948
01:27:36,851 --> 01:27:38,820
to go to London, LA? What is the deal?

949
01:27:39,153 --> 01:27:40,688
Like how can we get creative

950
01:27:40,688 --> 01:27:42,857
with keeping their range where

951
01:27:42,857 --> 01:27:44,759
it's at or the marketed range that it's

952
01:27:44,759 --> 01:27:47,095
at? And have we been

953
01:27:47,095 --> 01:27:48,429
thoughtful about what we do on the

954
01:27:48,429 --> 01:27:51,132
inside? And I try to like separate myself

955
01:27:51,132 --> 01:27:52,467
in that way without just,

956
01:27:52,834 --> 01:27:53,901
you know, I don't want anyone

957
01:27:54,002 --> 01:27:56,471
to ever be like, oh, who designed this

958
01:27:56,471 --> 01:27:58,406
plane? It can't, the range is down

959
01:27:58,406 --> 01:27:59,240
because everything's so

960
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:00,675
heavy or there's this that and the other.

961
01:28:00,875 --> 01:28:02,510
So I try to think about

962
01:28:02,510 --> 01:28:04,746
that stuff just as much as the

963
01:28:04,746 --> 01:28:06,381
aesthetic. What projects are you most

964
01:28:06,381 --> 01:28:07,415
excited about that you can

965
01:28:07,415 --> 01:28:09,417
talk about? Are there anything

966
01:28:09,450 --> 01:28:11,486
coming out that you're just like, this is

967
01:28:11,486 --> 01:28:12,420
going to be pretty awesome. I have some

968
01:28:12,420 --> 01:28:12,987
exciting stuff coming

969
01:28:12,987 --> 01:28:17,959
up that I'm excited about. I have a 6500

970
01:28:17,959 --> 01:28:19,494
coming up for a WWE

971
01:28:19,494 --> 01:28:21,195
wrestling. I'm excited about that.

972
01:28:21,195 --> 01:28:24,165
I love a chance to, you know, and I think

973
01:28:24,165 --> 01:28:25,233
that's one we want to kind

974
01:28:25,233 --> 01:28:26,634
of help you with. Absolutely.

975
01:28:26,934 --> 01:28:29,671
Be a part of. I love the thought of doing

976
01:28:29,671 --> 01:28:31,072
everything black and red

977
01:28:31,072 --> 01:28:32,407
and like really masculine,

978
01:28:32,407 --> 01:28:34,309
especially on the tails of like this

979
01:28:34,309 --> 01:28:36,911
beautiful pink aircraft.

980
01:28:37,145 --> 01:28:38,212
Right. You did a totally like

981
01:28:38,313 --> 01:28:40,014
feminine aircraft. Now it's a really

982
01:28:40,014 --> 01:28:44,385
masculine. And they're such a great

983
01:28:44,385 --> 01:28:45,319
company and I've worked

984
01:28:45,319 --> 01:28:47,889
with them for a while and I love working

985
01:28:47,889 --> 01:28:48,656
with them. So that's a

986
01:28:48,656 --> 01:28:49,891
really fun one coming up and

987
01:28:49,924 --> 01:28:52,026
we like to just think of all the details

988
01:28:52,026 --> 01:28:53,961
and inside outside and

989
01:28:53,961 --> 01:28:54,929
that's just such a piece

990
01:28:54,929 --> 01:28:56,431
because they're showmen like that. I

991
01:28:56,431 --> 01:28:58,333
mean, yeah, I mean, are you

992
01:28:58,333 --> 01:29:00,268
also doing we talked a lot about

993
01:29:00,268 --> 01:29:01,369
the interiors you're doing the experience

994
01:29:01,369 --> 01:29:03,071
too. Like are you putting

995
01:29:03,071 --> 01:29:04,105
rims on these things? Like

996
01:29:04,105 --> 01:29:06,007
what are you doing? That's a good idea.

997
01:29:06,441 --> 01:29:08,309
You know, just throwing it out there.

998
01:29:08,576 --> 01:29:09,043
Right. We could just

999
01:29:09,043 --> 01:29:11,045
get someone to cooperate with that we can

1000
01:29:11,045 --> 01:29:13,481
really bother. I'm putting

1001
01:29:13,481 --> 01:29:15,049
it out in the world. Yeah.

1002
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:17,518
But yeah, I do the exteriors as well. I

1003
01:29:17,518 --> 01:29:18,886
love, I love that part of

1004
01:29:18,886 --> 01:29:20,121
it. I mean, I love to work on

1005
01:29:20,121 --> 01:29:22,957
the whole process. Just interior

1006
01:29:22,957 --> 01:29:24,592
exterior, even when it's down

1007
01:29:24,592 --> 01:29:26,194
to like the maintenance, how do

1008
01:29:26,194 --> 01:29:27,628
we make that more maintenance friendly?

1009
01:29:27,628 --> 01:29:28,429
You don't want, you don't

1010
01:29:28,429 --> 01:29:29,564
want the clients director of

1011
01:29:29,564 --> 01:29:32,266
maintenance on your tail like you with

1012
01:29:32,266 --> 01:29:33,935
the metallic pink. So,

1013
01:29:34,035 --> 01:29:35,136
you know, you've got to keep

1014
01:29:35,136 --> 01:29:37,038
everybody. Everybody's part of the job.

1015
01:29:37,038 --> 01:29:38,172
Like thinking about that.

1016
01:29:38,172 --> 01:29:39,373
What do our pilots need?

1017
01:29:39,373 --> 01:29:40,842
Like what requests do they have? And like

1018
01:29:40,842 --> 01:29:42,043
a lot of my clients are so

1019
01:29:42,043 --> 01:29:42,944
great. Like when we meet,

1020
01:29:42,977 --> 01:29:45,179
they say, make sure you talk to our crew

1021
01:29:45,179 --> 01:29:46,147
like and see what they

1022
01:29:46,147 --> 01:29:48,015
need up front. You know, like

1023
01:29:48,015 --> 01:29:49,484
you just bought the shoes aircraft. Does

1024
01:29:49,484 --> 01:29:50,251
it have all of the

1025
01:29:50,251 --> 01:29:52,086
equipment they need? We want to make

1026
01:29:52,086 --> 01:29:53,821
sure it's really safe for them. And like,

1027
01:29:53,821 --> 01:29:54,822
there's always new stuff

1028
01:29:54,822 --> 01:29:56,290
coming out and upgrades and like,

1029
01:29:56,591 --> 01:29:57,992
sometimes like the crew, they're so

1030
01:29:57,992 --> 01:29:58,893
great. They don't want to

1031
01:29:58,893 --> 01:30:00,428
ask. They're like, oh, this, you

1032
01:30:00,428 --> 01:30:01,763
know, this could be expensive, but this

1033
01:30:01,763 --> 01:30:03,164
would really make we, we

1034
01:30:03,164 --> 01:30:04,532
do a lot of night landings.

1035
01:30:04,532 --> 01:30:05,933
We're landing in Aspen. We're landing

1036
01:30:05,933 --> 01:30:07,668
here. Like they have things

1037
01:30:07,668 --> 01:30:08,870
that they can advise the client

1038
01:30:08,970 --> 01:30:12,006
on that. And I like to definitely always

1039
01:30:12,006 --> 01:30:13,875
consider that because it's better. Like

1040
01:30:13,875 --> 01:30:14,575
when, when everybody

1041
01:30:14,575 --> 01:30:16,444
is happy and everybody's working together

1042
01:30:16,444 --> 01:30:17,412
and you do have to consider

1043
01:30:17,412 --> 01:30:18,346
that. I mean, it's like the

1044
01:30:18,346 --> 01:30:20,348
pilot may not like the disco ball. It's

1045
01:30:20,348 --> 01:30:21,883
like whatever. It's like

1046
01:30:21,883 --> 01:30:22,984
just stuff like that. It's

1047
01:30:22,984 --> 01:30:24,352
like anything that's distracting or

1048
01:30:24,352 --> 01:30:25,753
anything. It's like, well, yeah, we don't

1049
01:30:25,753 --> 01:30:26,554
need them at the back

1050
01:30:26,554 --> 01:30:31,492
with this report. Yeah. Such an important

1051
01:30:31,492 --> 01:30:32,960
job. And so we try to

1052
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,495
consider all of that stuff.

1053
01:30:34,996 --> 01:30:38,232
Like whatever we're specifying. So I love

1054
01:30:38,232 --> 01:30:39,167
all of that. I love the

1055
01:30:39,167 --> 01:30:40,635
exterior paint, love the inside,

1056
01:30:40,868 --> 01:30:43,371
but love getting into the maintenance and

1057
01:30:43,371 --> 01:30:44,071
love getting into the

1058
01:30:44,071 --> 01:30:45,473
avionics and just following

1059
01:30:45,473 --> 01:30:47,675
that process and love watching everything

1060
01:30:47,675 --> 01:30:49,444
be built and like monitoring like the

1061
01:30:49,444 --> 01:30:50,344
quality of that. Just

1062
01:30:50,344 --> 01:30:53,514
because it's so, it's such a, um, the

1063
01:30:53,514 --> 01:30:55,349
craftsmen in our industry that work on

1064
01:30:55,349 --> 01:30:56,050
this stuff, like their

1065
01:30:56,050 --> 01:30:58,152
hand making, you see covers like every

1066
01:30:58,152 --> 01:30:59,620
detail, like it's not just,

1067
01:30:59,620 --> 01:31:01,355
you know, Paris's embroidered

1068
01:31:01,456 --> 01:31:02,957
headdress, like people are really doing

1069
01:31:02,957 --> 01:31:03,724
all this stuff with their

1070
01:31:03,724 --> 01:31:05,126
hands and it's amazing. And so

1071
01:31:05,359 --> 01:31:08,029
just watching the quality of that, like

1072
01:31:08,029 --> 01:31:10,164
from the build and to the

1073
01:31:10,164 --> 01:31:13,401
end is I think the best part of

1074
01:31:13,401 --> 01:31:15,970
the job. If somebody, if somebody wanted

1075
01:31:15,970 --> 01:31:17,104
to work with you, right.

1076
01:31:17,805 --> 01:31:19,740
And, uh, you know, obviously you

1077
01:31:19,740 --> 01:31:21,042
probably get referrals all over the

1078
01:31:21,042 --> 01:31:24,212
place, but, but if somebody, if

1079
01:31:24,212 --> 01:31:25,146
somebody's like watching this

1080
01:31:25,146 --> 01:31:27,381
and like, you know what, I need to get my

1081
01:31:27,381 --> 01:31:29,150
own custom, I don't know,

1082
01:31:29,350 --> 01:31:30,284
golf simulator on a plane

1083
01:31:30,351 --> 01:31:32,086
or whatever it is, whatever is they're

1084
01:31:32,086 --> 01:31:33,287
trying to do, right. You

1085
01:31:33,287 --> 01:31:35,089
know, we've been thinking about

1086
01:31:35,456 --> 01:31:38,459
a golf simulator situation. Let's do it.

1087
01:31:38,459 --> 01:31:39,927
I'm here all day. I'll

1088
01:31:39,927 --> 01:31:41,195
just come up with crazy ideas

1089
01:31:41,195 --> 01:31:43,064
and we can just see if somebody like a

1090
01:31:43,064 --> 01:31:45,566
situation in like a 7,500

1091
01:31:45,566 --> 01:31:46,968
where they have that beautiful

1092
01:31:47,368 --> 01:31:49,337
bedroom in the back and like, it's a very

1093
01:31:49,337 --> 01:31:50,705
spacious area. Now there

1094
01:31:50,705 --> 01:31:52,173
could be some compromises there,

1095
01:31:52,173 --> 01:31:54,275
but just trying to think of a scenario

1096
01:31:54,275 --> 01:31:57,545
where at some points you

1097
01:31:57,545 --> 01:31:58,579
could have your golf simulator

1098
01:31:58,813 --> 01:32:00,882
on the bulkhead, like, you know, there's

1099
01:32:00,882 --> 01:32:01,916
some things to be worked

1100
01:32:01,916 --> 01:32:02,683
out. You may not be able to

1101
01:32:02,683 --> 01:32:05,820
drive, but maybe the putt, putting green

1102
01:32:05,820 --> 01:32:07,855
absolutely. We can do the

1103
01:32:07,855 --> 01:32:09,624
things. They're on their plane so

1104
01:32:09,624 --> 01:32:11,525
much. They're, they're doing a level of

1105
01:32:11,525 --> 01:32:13,728
exercising, whatever they

1106
01:32:13,728 --> 01:32:15,630
like to do on there. And so it's

1107
01:32:15,663 --> 01:32:18,766
really fun to think of like more creative

1108
01:32:18,766 --> 01:32:20,668
ways that they can instead

1109
01:32:20,668 --> 01:32:22,136
of just doing a little yoga,

1110
01:32:22,136 --> 01:32:23,471
like what else could they do? Right.

1111
01:32:23,471 --> 01:32:26,374
Right. We get that simulator. But if

1112
01:32:26,374 --> 01:32:27,108
somebody, if somebody did

1113
01:32:27,141 --> 01:32:29,210
want to get in touch with you, what's the

1114
01:32:29,210 --> 01:32:31,312
best way for them to do that to get the

1115
01:32:31,312 --> 01:32:32,313
conversation started?

1116
01:32:32,947 --> 01:32:35,349
I think the best way is just email, phone

1117
01:32:35,349 --> 01:32:37,418
call, social media.

1118
01:32:38,386 --> 01:32:39,987
Sadly, I have to check them all

1119
01:32:40,087 --> 01:32:43,124
the time. And, but yeah, like client

1120
01:32:43,124 --> 01:32:45,726
referrals, it's, it's the

1121
01:32:45,726 --> 01:32:46,727
best part of the business doing

1122
01:32:46,727 --> 01:32:48,462
a good job for each client. So they want

1123
01:32:48,462 --> 01:32:49,997
to refer you to the next person, but

1124
01:32:49,997 --> 01:32:52,867
nice. And we'll have,

1125
01:32:52,900 --> 01:32:53,901
we'll have something to put in the

1126
01:32:53,901 --> 01:32:55,002
description of the video in

1127
01:32:55,002 --> 01:32:56,871
terms of the best way or your

1128
01:32:56,871 --> 01:32:58,773
preferred way. Yeah. I don't want to put

1129
01:32:58,773 --> 01:32:59,874
all of your stuff out

1130
01:32:59,874 --> 01:33:01,509
there for everyone because it's

1131
01:33:01,509 --> 01:33:04,145
YouTube and who knows, right? Anything

1132
01:33:04,145 --> 01:33:05,146
before we wrap things up

1133
01:33:05,146 --> 01:33:06,480
though, is there anything else that,

1134
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:08,249
that maybe I didn't ask you that you want

1135
01:33:08,249 --> 01:33:09,116
to, that you want to mention

1136
01:33:09,116 --> 01:33:10,051
or you want to talk about in

1137
01:33:10,051 --> 01:33:11,652
terms of people that are just thinking

1138
01:33:11,652 --> 01:33:12,653
about owning the jet,

1139
01:33:12,853 --> 01:33:15,456
right? And what their options are

1140
01:33:15,690 --> 01:33:18,926
and, and how they should approach just

1141
01:33:18,926 --> 01:33:21,362
the, the ability to do

1142
01:33:21,362 --> 01:33:22,496
whatever they want. Right.

1143
01:33:23,664 --> 01:33:25,933
Yeah. I mean, I would encourage every

1144
01:33:25,933 --> 01:33:28,002
client, like reach out,

1145
01:33:28,002 --> 01:33:29,870
you're thinking about buying a jet,

1146
01:33:30,071 --> 01:33:31,839
you need some advice about what, what

1147
01:33:31,839 --> 01:33:32,873
would be the right one for

1148
01:33:32,873 --> 01:33:34,375
your family, for your business,

1149
01:33:34,375 --> 01:33:38,946
for your fit, for your, for the range

1150
01:33:38,946 --> 01:33:40,181
that you need, et cetera.

1151
01:33:40,548 --> 01:33:42,717
Reach out so we can start planning

1152
01:33:42,883 --> 01:33:45,720
because it's so important to find the

1153
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:46,921
right facility to do the

1154
01:33:46,921 --> 01:33:48,456
work and it's a used aircraft

1155
01:33:48,489 --> 01:33:51,626
or new aircraft. You know, there's a lot

1156
01:33:51,626 --> 01:33:54,061
of great facilities out there, West Star,

1157
01:33:54,428 --> 01:33:58,532
Standard Arrow, Duncan. And so getting

1158
01:33:58,532 --> 01:34:01,836
ahead, like, you know, pre-planning the

1159
01:34:01,836 --> 01:34:03,270
design, the paint slot,

1160
01:34:03,504 --> 01:34:05,406
the maintenance slot, all of these things

1161
01:34:05,406 --> 01:34:06,774
that go into it and just not

1162
01:34:06,774 --> 01:34:07,775
waiting till the last minute

1163
01:34:07,842 --> 01:34:10,978
and like, we help with all of it. So I

1164
01:34:10,978 --> 01:34:12,513
think that's it is like, and you're not

1165
01:34:12,513 --> 01:34:13,848
hesitating about to do

1166
01:34:13,848 --> 01:34:15,249
what you want and thinking it might not

1167
01:34:15,249 --> 01:34:18,919
be possible or you saw this 7X that you

1168
01:34:18,919 --> 01:34:19,520
were really interested

1169
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:20,855
in, but you don't like the color of the

1170
01:34:20,855 --> 01:34:22,456
seats or the walls. It's like, well,

1171
01:34:22,456 --> 01:34:23,658
that's nothing. Like,

1172
01:34:23,658 --> 01:34:25,092
let's get into that. You're going to have

1173
01:34:25,092 --> 01:34:25,926
maintenance and stuff

1174
01:34:25,926 --> 01:34:26,694
you have to do anyway.

1175
01:34:27,194 --> 01:34:29,864
So to me, it's, you know, somebody goes

1176
01:34:29,864 --> 01:34:32,033
and looks at an airplane and, well, I

1177
01:34:32,033 --> 01:34:32,633
just really don't like

1178
01:34:32,667 --> 01:34:35,269
the seat colors. So now I'm going to pass

1179
01:34:35,269 --> 01:34:37,071
on that when it's, yeah, you

1180
01:34:37,071 --> 01:34:38,305
know, that's an easy change.

1181
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:40,641
Great. Great. That's, yeah, we know

1182
01:34:40,641 --> 01:34:41,575
someone that can help them

1183
01:34:41,575 --> 01:34:42,810
on that. We know someone.

1184
01:34:43,110 --> 01:34:44,712
We know someone. I think that happened.

1185
01:34:44,712 --> 01:34:45,913
That might happen a lot.

1186
01:34:45,913 --> 01:34:47,248
And I hate that because

1187
01:34:47,348 --> 01:34:48,849
some of this stuff is such an easy

1188
01:34:48,849 --> 01:34:50,051
change, especially in the

1189
01:34:50,051 --> 01:34:51,085
grand scheme of things of

1190
01:34:51,085 --> 01:34:54,221
what they're doing. And especially when

1191
01:34:54,221 --> 01:34:54,955
you're looking at the used

1192
01:34:54,955 --> 01:34:56,123
aircraft market, because,

1193
01:34:56,123 --> 01:34:57,291
you know, a lot of the people that you

1194
01:34:57,291 --> 01:34:58,659
see in aircraft, it might not be your

1195
01:34:58,659 --> 01:34:59,193
taste, but, you know,

1196
01:34:59,193 --> 01:35:01,028
that person went for it and they did what

1197
01:35:01,028 --> 01:35:02,329
they wanted to do and

1198
01:35:02,329 --> 01:35:03,764
they enjoyed that plane. And

1199
01:35:03,931 --> 01:35:05,900
their crew has like, it's meticulously

1200
01:35:05,900 --> 01:35:08,035
maintained. It's like, you know what

1201
01:35:08,035 --> 01:35:10,271
that's do for new seats

1202
01:35:10,271 --> 01:35:12,273
and carpet and new paint job. Like, you

1203
01:35:12,273 --> 01:35:13,708
know, we encourage people to

1204
01:35:13,708 --> 01:35:15,209
like paint your plane every

1205
01:35:15,209 --> 01:35:16,444
seven years. So you don't have to worry

1206
01:35:16,444 --> 01:35:18,045
about corrosion and like

1207
01:35:18,045 --> 01:35:19,346
these type of things. So it's

1208
01:35:19,346 --> 01:35:22,249
like people maybe worry too much about

1209
01:35:22,249 --> 01:35:23,250
what the current aesthetic

1210
01:35:23,250 --> 01:35:25,086
is. And it's like, no, don't

1211
01:35:25,086 --> 01:35:26,053
worry about it. Does it have good

1212
01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:27,621
equipment? Has it been well maintained?

1213
01:35:27,888 --> 01:35:28,689
Like, because we want to

1214
01:35:28,756 --> 01:35:30,324
do something special for the inside

1215
01:35:30,324 --> 01:35:32,927
anyway. Yeah. I love it. I love it.

1216
01:35:33,127 --> 01:35:34,128
Sarah, thank you so much for

1217
01:35:34,128 --> 01:35:35,096
being on the show. Thanks for having me.

1218
01:35:35,096 --> 01:35:36,730
It was a pleasure. Yeah. I'm looking

1219
01:35:36,730 --> 01:35:37,431
forward to seeing how

1220
01:35:37,431 --> 01:35:39,333
this how this next project turns out.

1221
01:35:39,333 --> 01:35:41,268
Absolutely. I can't wait to share it.

1222
01:35:41,869 --> 01:35:42,570
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01:35:42,570 --> 01:35:44,305
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