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<v Speaker 1>Well today can be summarized by saying, Holy living Batman.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that was not how I thought you were going

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<v Speaker 3>to introduce this. Well, let's find out what we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about. He's Chris, I'm Jeff, and we're the

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<v Speaker 3>Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know that Robin said holy whatever?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the original Batman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well today Paul's talking about Holy living Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, yeah, you just caught me off guard there. That

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<v Speaker 3>was not how I thought you were going to induce that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't want to say nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Jeff never knows what I'm going to say.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, just so you're wondering in case anybody wonders

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<v Speaker 1>at all, we don't really know what anybody's We don't

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<v Speaker 1>rehearse these at all, So these are just prepared the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Other than other than the Bible part. But yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But but a lot of these, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions, every single one of them that we ask

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<v Speaker 1>each other, for the most part, we don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>other person's going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So today is another segment on Stump the pastor where

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<v Speaker 1>people have sent in questions, and we're doing this all

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<v Speaker 1>info at the Bible Guys dot com and we would

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<v Speaker 1>love to just take any questions and maybe in a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks we'll do another segment with your question. So

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<v Speaker 1>this comes from Michael V. And the question today is this,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the difference between an Israelite and did you?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So manlife. There's so many answers to that. Can we

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<v Speaker 3>just throw in Hebrew?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we just throw that one into yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the word Hebrew Israelite in jew just to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of give you the short answer first, are all used

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<v Speaker 1>interchangeably synonymously almost with Paul and and and the word

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<v Speaker 1>Hebrew started with Abraham, and it's referred to as descendants

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<v Speaker 1>of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. In fact, nobody really knows why,

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<v Speaker 1>but Abraham was actually called the Hebrew and but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really referred to the descendants of God's promises

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<v Speaker 1>and the promises of Abraham specifically.

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<v Speaker 3>So the word Hebrew comes from the the root word

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<v Speaker 3>that means ever. So it seems like you know that

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<v Speaker 3>God is saying because remember God said your your people

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<v Speaker 3>will last forever. It seems like maybe that might be

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<v Speaker 3>the root of that part of it where Hebrew really

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<v Speaker 3>references relationship to to Abraham specifically. But then from there

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<v Speaker 3>Israelite winds up being more of a nationality. We would

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<v Speaker 3>say Israeli today it's the same same word. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>nationality thing, But that doesn't necessarily mean you're Jewish.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, the word the word jew was Jews were

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<v Speaker 1>first used when in the second Kings, when when the

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<v Speaker 1>nation was divided and you had Israel and you had Judah.

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<v Speaker 1>The people in Judah referred were referred to as Jews.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and Judah is where Jerusalem is Judah is where

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<v Speaker 3>Bethlehem is. Well, Bethlehem is in Benjamin. But Judah and

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<v Speaker 3>Benjamin were one group and Israel was the other group

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<v Speaker 3>up above.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, and so and so.

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<v Speaker 1>And then later on when they became one nation again,

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<v Speaker 1>then they were all referred to as Jews and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and and some suggest the reason why is because there

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<v Speaker 1>were more in the southern region than there were in

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<v Speaker 3>But either way, and not long after that time that

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<v Speaker 3>they came back together, the Greeks came in and took

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<v Speaker 3>them all over, and so they're all Jews now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So the answer is.

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<v Speaker 1>This, So Hebrews and Jews and Israelites are used synonymously

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<v Speaker 1>to refer to the same group of people. However, there

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<v Speaker 1>is some confusion. In fact, it's been a debate for

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of years. In fact, I have very good friends

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<v Speaker 1>who are Jewish, and they would even tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>even people in their own families disagree on some of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, because sometimes you can say, oh, I'm Jewish,

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<v Speaker 1>and what you're meaning is I'm religious, Yes, I'm of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish faith, right, I belong to Judaism. And then

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<v Speaker 1>some people would say, oh, I'm Jewish, and they're referring

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<v Speaker 1>to nationality, ethnicity, ethnicity, yesity, yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 3>The word jew references ethnicity and or religion.

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<v Speaker 4>And which is why it's so confused, right.

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<v Speaker 3>For Jewish, But in the Jewish culture of the New

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<v Speaker 3>Testament and of the Old Testament, you couldn't separate the two.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I was with a Sicilian lady when we

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<v Speaker 3>were in Sicily, and I asked her if she was

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<v Speaker 3>a Christian, and she said, I'm Sicilian, I'm Catholic, right right,

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<v Speaker 3>those two in her mind are synonymous. You can't. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't separate Catholicism from being Sicilian. You can't separate Secilia

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of the same thing that in Jesus Day

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<v Speaker 3>and before Jesus Day, Jewish meant this is my nationality

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<v Speaker 3>and my religion. Today Jewish can mean my nationality and

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<v Speaker 3>my religion, or my nationality or my religion, right right.

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<v Speaker 3>Israeli is purely Israelite. It's purely nationality. So you could

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<v Speaker 3>be a Muslim Israeli, you could be or you could

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<v Speaker 3>be an atheist Israeli because Israeli Israelite just means nationality,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Hebrew would be recognizing I'm you know, my

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<v Speaker 3>ethnicity comes from Abraham. So there's some complexity in that

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<v Speaker 3>each of those words has its own precise meaning, but

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<v Speaker 3>we find ourselves sometimes interchanging them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was corrected by a good friend of mine, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>who I used to work with at my church in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Jewish, and I had made some kind of joke.

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<v Speaker 4>We met up.

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<v Speaker 1>I went down for a conference and we met at

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<v Speaker 1>at a restaurant called the Varsity by the way. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, and among other things that wake you up

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<v Speaker 4>O'clock in the morning to eat it. But we were down.

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<v Speaker 1>There talking and I had made a reference and he

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<v Speaker 1>had told me he's like, hey, he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>former President Trump recognized this, and he actually signed a

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to take an identity crisis away from this conundrum.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he actually with regard to how the State

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<v Speaker 3>Department used the words yes, yes, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So he tried to dissolve it by saying, every time

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<v Speaker 1>you say he's Jewish, you are referring specifically just to ethnicity, nationality.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jewish is now supposed to be. Although I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not it was effective.

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<v Speaker 3>Or not, I'm not sure the US government gets to

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<v Speaker 3>make those definitions. But what he was saying is it

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<v Speaker 3>was for the sake of how the State Department yes

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<v Speaker 3>wrote the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. And then if you were to describe your faith,

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<v Speaker 1>then you would have to specifically refer to it as that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, say like I'm the Jewish faith, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Jewish, right right, So that's I think that more

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<v Speaker 3>of the standard. Lately, at least among my Rabbi friends,

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<v Speaker 3>they would say I'm Jewish and they would say I

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<v Speaker 3>practiced the Jewish faith, which those two things would be

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<v Speaker 3>would be, you know, somewhat separate.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, so I bet you a lot of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners didn't understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of complexity in that. So

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<v Speaker 3>just understand, Jewish usually means both nationality and or I

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<v Speaker 3>mean ethnicity and or faith. Hebrew means connected to Abraham's family,

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<v Speaker 3>Israelite means or Israeli is part of the nationality of Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Those be the three. So good question. Hey, as you

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<v Speaker 3>read through the Bible and come across those, those kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of words. It's fun to ask them and try to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out what it means. And you know, we will

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<v Speaker 3>take seven minutes to answer a two minute question if

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<v Speaker 3>we can. Yeah, wow, yeah, okay. So what verses are

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<v Speaker 3>we reading today? Chris?

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<v Speaker 1>The First Thessalonians, Chapter four, verses one through twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>One through twelve very good. So remember now Paul is

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<v Speaker 3>in corinth yep, he's there for a year and a half,

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<v Speaker 3>and he writes a couple of letters back to the

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<v Speaker 3>church in Thessalonaika that he had helped start in you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years before that, and he loves them

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<v Speaker 3>so much. Right, this is so great, So he says, finally,

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<v Speaker 3>dear brothers and sisters, we urge you in the name

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<v Speaker 3>of the Lord Jesus, to live in a way that

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<v Speaker 3>pleases God. As we've taught you. You live this way already,

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<v Speaker 3>and we encourage you to do so even more. For

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<v Speaker 3>remember what we taught you by the authority of the

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<v Speaker 3>Lord Jesus. God's will is for you to be holy,

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<v Speaker 3>so stay away from all sexual sin. Then each of

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<v Speaker 3>you will control his own body and live in holiness

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<v Speaker 3>and honor, not in lustful passion like the pagan's who

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<v Speaker 3>not know God and his ways never harm or cheat

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<v Speaker 3>a fellow believer in this manner by violating his wife,

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<v Speaker 3>For the Lord avenges all such sins. As we have

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<v Speaker 3>solemnly warned you before, God has called us to live

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<v Speaker 3>holy lives, not impure lives. Therefore, anyone who refuses to

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<v Speaker 3>live by these rules is not disobeying human teaching, but

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<v Speaker 3>is rejecting God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.

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<v Speaker 3>But we don't need to write to you about the

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<v Speaker 3>importance of loving each other, for God himself has taught

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<v Speaker 3>you to love one another. Indeed, you already show your

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<v Speaker 3>love for all the believers throughout Macedonia. Even so, dear

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<v Speaker 3>brothers and sisters, we urge you to love them even more.

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<v Speaker 3>Make it your goal to live a quiet life, minding

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<v Speaker 3>your own business and working with your hands, just as

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<v Speaker 3>we instructed you before. Then people who are not believers

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<v Speaker 3>will respect the way you live and you will not

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<v Speaker 3>need to depend on others.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Does your version say believers are Christians?

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<v Speaker 3>Believers?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the NLT Yeah, mind's of NLT and it

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<v Speaker 1>says Christians.

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<v Speaker 4>Well huh and I'll tee yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Interesting, Well, we probably have a slightly different addition.

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<v Speaker 3>Mine's the third edition.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, that's really good to point out.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually it is nifty believers in Christians.

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<v Speaker 4>It's nifty gifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you're a believer, you're a Christian.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. So that's all Christians are believers. Is

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<v Speaker 3>it possible to be a Christian not be a believer?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it possible to be a Christian and not be

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<v Speaker 1>a believer? I would say no?

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<v Speaker 3>Can it goes along with the answer we just gave

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<v Speaker 3>a minute ago. Well, sometimes people would use it. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's different from being.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're talking about semantics, because I was thinking, in

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, which means they may call themselves Christians. But

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm agreeing with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So so Paul here is writing and it's really a

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<v Speaker 3>So it's really cool, Yeah, and I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't pull any punches. He's not coming off in

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to hurt you. I've already taught you this.

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<v Speaker 3>You've already been kind of heading in this direction, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to remind you there are consequences to

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<v Speaker 3>consequences like God hates you. These are just the natural consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>But he does say God will avenge sexual sin when

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<v Speaker 3>you're going after somebody else's wife or you know, an

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<v Speaker 3>adultery kind of a thing. So we shouldn't be surprised when,

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<v Speaker 3>even as Christians, when we do choose to participate in

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<v Speaker 3>some sense, there are significant consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>What we want is we want no consequences. We only

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<v Speaker 3>want grace and mercy. Oh, I wanted to go with

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<v Speaker 3>it too. Right, And Paul's just reminding them God will

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<v Speaker 3>avenge these sins. So I'm not judging you. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>telling you off. I'm just reminding you be very cautious

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this brings up sort of the bigger topic.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we joked about the fact that some people

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<v Speaker 1>But almost serendipitously, those things actually are pretty appropriate. They're

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<v Speaker 1>connected because there are a lot of people who would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I call myself a Christian, but doesn't mean that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to change my way of living at all. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so people would say, oh, I love God. It's one

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I'd like to thank my creator, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or whatever, and it's like it's like that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's their whole that you know, that that summarizes all

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<v Speaker 1>their dedication right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Right he's my good luck time God helped me hit

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying everybody who does that is that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but but but all have to say this. Paul is

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<v Speaker 1>saying that God still wants us to live righteously. He's

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<v Speaker 1>saying that it's it's not just about grace, although God

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<v Speaker 1>gives it to us freely. It's not just about mercy,

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<v Speaker 1>although God gives it to us endlessly. It's about striving

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<v Speaker 1>to live holy And if you have Jesus Christ truly

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, you're going to live that way already.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not about obeying because you have to. It's

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<v Speaker 1>obeying because you want to. And so it's it's so

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a difference between the Old Testament and the

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<v Speaker 1>New Testament. And the Old Testament they were looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cross of Christ. They're looking forward to the

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<v Speaker 1>miss Ayah who would come and take away their sin problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet what they were, what they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward, you know, to to doing these things to

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<v Speaker 1>absolve their sins. Jesus Christ has performed all the action

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<v Speaker 1>necessary to wipe away and absolve all of our sins.

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<v Speaker 1>So we look back to the cross, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>realize we don't have to obey for salvation.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But but Paul, because of salvation.

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<v Speaker 4>We obey because of salvation.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we will because we we will because we want

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<v Speaker 1>to out of gratitude, out of and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then if we can understand that God's laws are not

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<v Speaker 3>in Paul says in other passage, God's laws are not burdensome.

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<v Speaker 3>So if they are burdensome, if you're trying to earn

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<v Speaker 3>a way to heaven, it's not possible, right, But they're

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<v Speaker 3>not burdensome as far as they make your life better.

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't have to worry about struggling in sexual

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<v Speaker 3>intimacy with your partner if you know that you've been

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<v Speaker 3>pure and holy with each other only right. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to worry about bringing STDs into the family if

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<v Speaker 3>you've been holy. Right, So there's all these benefits to

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<v Speaker 3>just doing things God's way. And you know, I love

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<v Speaker 3>to tell the story about when I used to work

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<v Speaker 3>with gangs in Chicago, and I told you the story before.

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<v Speaker 3>I think where dudes walking this massive Rottwiler down the street.

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<v Speaker 3>But the menus dog I've ever known was these people.

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<v Speaker 3>this little chiny chihaha pound for pounds medus dog I've

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<v Speaker 3>that giant rottweiler and that whitewader, I'm honestly one of

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifteen pounds, and he never even made eye

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<v Speaker 3>contact with that little dog. That little dog is losing

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he just wanted to tear into that rattweiler.

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<v Speaker 3>That rottweiler was so big he could have just inhaled

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<v Speaker 3>where was that little chihuahua safest. That chihuahua thought he

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<v Speaker 3>But this loving master had the fence in the right

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<v Speaker 3>places that little chiuhaha was completely free and safe inside

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<v Speaker 3>that fence. Outside that fence, he would have been a

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<v Speaker 3>scooby snack for that great big jam rat wider. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of the same thing for us. We think

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. We want to get out. We're digging

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<v Speaker 3>underneath the fence, trying to get out away from all

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<v Speaker 3>the safety and protection that our loving Master has for us.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Bible says Peter says, the devil walks around

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<v Speaker 3>And if we just understand God's the guidelines for holiness

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<v Speaker 3>are not oppressive. They give us a better life, a

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<v Speaker 3>cleaner life, a safer life, a gentler life, a more

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<v Speaker 3>peaceful life. So I don't think it's a mistake that

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<v Speaker 3>he ties sexual purity and holiness to so live a

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<v Speaker 3>ties both of those together almost one breath to the

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a bad life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's isn't it funny how today when

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that in quotes, the old fashioned idea

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<v Speaker 1>that God actually designed sex for marriage. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is just I thought it was. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was not a popular idea thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the eighties, I thought, wow, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a popular idea. But holy Christmas, this thing has come.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Christmas, bat man, it has come to the point

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<v Speaker 1>to where people just don't don't want you to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's like, it's like, please just change the subject,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about anything else. Because as a couple dating, we're

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to be the mentality.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. All talked more about sexual parity than he did

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<v Speaker 3>about heaven.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he did, oh for sure. He talked.

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<v Speaker 3>He talked more about sexual parity and answer prayers. He

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<v Speaker 3>talked more. We can just going down the line all

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<v Speaker 3>the things and all the reasons why people go to church,

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<v Speaker 3>or all the reasons why people like to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>how important faith is to me. He talked more about

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<v Speaker 3>sexual purity than any of those topics. And so if

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<v Speaker 3>it's important to God to make sure that that's preserved

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<v Speaker 3>in scripture, it should be important to us too. We

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<v Speaker 3>should just understand that there's a couple of things that

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<v Speaker 3>where your treasure is that's to your heart is also

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<v Speaker 3>and then our sexual purity. Those two issues really define

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<v Speaker 3>are we running towards God or from God? And so

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<v Speaker 3>this is a it's kind of a it's almost a

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual litmus test. Paul's not saying I'm measuring you this way.

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<v Speaker 3>Just understand, if you're heading towards God, you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>flee these these these other issues you're gonna gonna And

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<v Speaker 3>it's not through just pure will power and personal character

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<v Speaker 3>that he's talking here. It's because of what Christ has

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<v Speaker 3>already done for us. Then we are free now to

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<v Speaker 4>That's great. Yeah, yeah, I think that overall.

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<v Speaker 1>When Paul, you know, writes back, you know it is

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like to me it is in loving context,

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<v Speaker 1>are already living this way anyway. That's another angle for

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<v Speaker 1>us to think about. Whenever we decide to encourage somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to live holy, you know, we do it most effectively

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<v Speaker 1>in the context of loving relationship. Yeah, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>what is more effective for the guy standing on the

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<v Speaker 1>street corner in New York with a sign that says

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<v Speaker 1>the end is near? You know, with people walking around,

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<v Speaker 1>how many converts you're going to have right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the millions of people who see you. How effective is

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<v Speaker 1>that really going to be? Versus sitting one person down

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<v Speaker 1>and leveraging your love, your relationship and your influence and

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<v Speaker 1>you say, can we talk about something that's important to

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<v Speaker 1>me and it should be important to you, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you decide to give them the message.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, again, it's it's just very evident

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And that was you know, yesterday's conversation was all

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<v Speaker 3>about that he loved them like a father, he worried

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<v Speaker 3>about them like a mother, that's right, right, and all

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<v Speaker 3>these things. And so in this context he kind of

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<v Speaker 3>in the Life Application Bible, which I love you should

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<v Speaker 3>get one, it says sexual standards were very low in

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<v Speaker 3>the Roman Empire, and in many societies today they're not

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<v Speaker 3>any higher. The temptation to engage in sex outside of

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<v Speaker 3>marriage has always been powerful. Giving into that temptation can

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<v Speaker 3>have disastrous results. Sexual sins always hurt someone, individuals, families, businesses, churches,

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<v Speaker 3>and more. Sexual desires and activities must be placed under

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<v Speaker 3>Christ's control. So it's not my character and my will power,

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<v Speaker 3>it's I'm surrendering it to Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>God created sex for procreation and pleasure, and it is

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<v Speaker 3>an expression of love between a husband and wife. The

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<v Speaker 3>sexual experience, therefore, must be limited to marriage. Besides the

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<v Speaker 3>physical consequences and sexual sin, they're also spiritual consequences. We

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<v Speaker 3>go on and on. He's going to talk about more

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<v Speaker 3>about that in First Corinthians, as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 3>because while the Thessalonians we're having trouble with this, corinth

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<v Speaker 3>is rife with it. They worshiped with sex, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's a whole other issue. And he talks about that

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<v Speaker 3>in Romans or First Crinthians six and seven quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll talk about it more. But I love the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that he's speaking with authority and he's not ashamed,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's doing it like a loving father, like a

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<v Speaker 3>worried mother for these people that he genuinely loves. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he goes okay. So then in verse eleven, make

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<v Speaker 3>it your goal to live quiet lives. So he talks

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<v Speaker 3>about loving each other, respecting each other, caring for one another,

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<v Speaker 3>and then just live a good life. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that he warns about here is idleness,

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<v Speaker 3>really right, Christian should be industrious people. We should be producing,

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<v Speaker 3>We should be making a difference, you know, regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in America, our goal is to save up

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<v Speaker 3>enough money to finally we don't have to do any

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<v Speaker 3>work ever. And God didn't make us that way. Even

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<v Speaker 3>if you are well off enough to not have to

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<v Speaker 3>work the nine to five grind, you should still be

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<v Speaker 3>productive for the kingdom. And so this is what he's saying,

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<v Speaker 3>to make your goal to live a quiet life, minding

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<v Speaker 3>your own business, working with your hands, and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, then people who are not believers will respect

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<v Speaker 3>the way that you live and will not and you

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<v Speaker 3>won't have to depend on other people. And so he's saying,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a testimony to other people that Christians would still

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<v Speaker 3>be producing and be productive in their life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it seems like there's a lot to learn from

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<v Speaker 1>just these few verses. Which is which is the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bible? That's right, because there's always an application

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<v Speaker 1>for God's truths.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever, every one of these passages. We could talk for

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<v Speaker 3>hours on, yeah, right, for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well that's all we have time for.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we'll see you next time on the Bible, guys,