Jonathan López (00:00)
Say you are in a battlefield with your team, you are walking, you are dehydrated, for example, that device with the sensors can say, this person is dehydrated, let's administer X quantity of this compound to maintain him. I check my central unit, I see that something is happening to you, you're not responding. And since you're not responding, my device can tell me the location where you are, so I can go there. And that's team awareness.

Heath Fletcher (00:27)
It's measuring real time, my heart rate, my pulse, the oxygen, the blood, the salt in my system, all those things. And it's also taking into account my location geographically. It's like wearing an Iron Man suit.

My guest is Jonathan López He's a medical doctor and founder of karē Corp. Jonathan is building next gen biotech platforms for compound drug delivery across healthcare, emergency room response, and defense. The kind of tech that makes the sci-fi idea of a super soldier feel a lot more like reality. Jonathan, he's driven by a bigger mission to inspire fellow Puerto Ricans to believe they can build anything, compete anywhere, and show the world that Puerto Rico has the skill and knowledge and passion.

to make a global impact.

Alright, so Jonathan, thanks for joining me today for this episode. Looking forward to hearing your story, hearing about karē your company, and what your vision is for the future of that business. So why don't you start with an introduction of yourself and the company.

Jonathan López (01:34)
Yeah, good afternoon, my name is Jonathan López. I am a doctor in medicine. I graduated from biology here in Puerto Rico. Then I decided to go to med school. So I went to med school. I studied here, Puerto Rico biology. Then I went to Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara in Mexico. I was there for two years. Then I made my rotations in Tucson, Arizona. I was there for two more years.

Then I came back to Puerto Rico and you know the idea came up again and start working on it.

Heath Fletcher (02:11)
So ⁓ now what is that idea? What hit you? What was it? What? guess maybe explain what the company does and what it is. And then let's go into sort of when you recognize this problem or gap that you wanted to fill.

Jonathan López (02:26)
All right, so the company started just one day I was with my friends. It was in the middle of the summer. I was playing video games with my friend, Pex Lane. Then we were talking about cannabis and I was talking about the smoke, edibles, all that stuff and the ways that cannabis help people and don't help. So that was my thought that I want to make a way to administer cannabis because it have a lot of good

compounds to help people, but you know, it's also dangerous. So what I have to do to make that safer for people. So that was my main idea, but I was in med school. I didn't have time to write anything. So I just went and when I finished med school, I was studying one night. I was there. I was finishing and I went outside and remember the idea and start searching for patents. said, does this exist? I started looking for patents and start working on it.

And here we are, Carecorp built a platform level system for control subcontinental administration in precarious and extreme environments. So I saw the problem that when people in different institutions, for example, defense, NASA, ⁓ in the city where when fire departments, police, sometimes things happens, for example, accidents.

And right now our medicine is not proactive. We just wait for things to happen so we can work to work with what is happening. So I was looking at that and I told myself, what if I made a platform that can tell me what is the actual physiology of this person at the time and make an algorithm that can tell me

what will happen to that physiologic state if something external happens? For example, let's say dehydration, let's say a bullet in the arm, let's say that. Let's say the oxygen, let's say compounds because every compound that is in our body is physiologic. So if we can measure those compounds and bring external things that can happen and disrupt these compounds, we can prevent

When things happen, we can work in that golden hour, that is 60 minutes in the money community to save that person before something happens. So we give that person more time to survive in that precarious and extreme environment.

Heath Fletcher (05:05)
Okay. So when, how, who's going to be using this in the moment when this situation happens, who's going to be actually administering this or working with this platform?

Jonathan López (05:16)
Okay, right now, is the good thing. This is a dual use platform. It's modular, you know, it has different sections. It is an ecosystem. And the good thing about this ecosystem is that it's made of little pieces that, for example, I want to work with defense, but the solder doesn't need the same thing as the astronaut, you know? The astronaut is up there, he's working. ⁓ You can take...

a lot of heavy object to the space because it's heavy, it's costly, you know, and the soldiers need ⁓ other things, for example, like ⁓ constant monitoring of their heart rate, ⁓ oxygen, and also all the stuff that can happen, you know, in the battlefield is not the same in the NASA and are not the same ⁓ in, for example, the fire in California is not the same as the pilots that were

with the midnight hammer operation to Iran. They were in the airplane for 30 hours. So there are lot of different uses that I can, since it's modular, I can work around all those institutions. And I did to make ⁓ a platform, thinking about every institution with different pieces for different institutions, but it's all the same. It's the same body, the same soul, the same ⁓ essence.

Heath Fletcher (06:42)
And so is this, ⁓ so this platform, how do, so if I'm, if I'm going to be ⁓ utilizing this platform, where am I accessing it? Is it a mobile app? Is it a desktop platform? Like where am I re where am I using it?

Jonathan López (06:57)
All right, so the administration, platform is subcutaneous and the platform will have, we're working on the software. It will have the independent software for the process, the algorithm and all those, the sole of the device, the software is going to be worked by us. So we already start talking with ⁓ software engineers to make an operative system that is safe.

to store the data of our soldiers, our astronauts, and our personnel in the stream places so their data and all this stuff are secure. So to bring our system, so I can bring my system home. I made everything, I know what is here, and I know this won't fail you because I did it. I worked with it, I worked with my team, I'm not bringing anything from the outside. So I can give you more guarantees with that.

Heath Fletcher (07:56)
So let me see if I get this. ⁓ So I have ⁓ a team of, let's just say firefighters as an example. So firefighters, you have a team of firefighters from one ⁓ of the districts. Are you identifying each individual who works in that ⁓ fire station? And you're defining who they all are.

information about them ⁓ with their health, their existing health. And then when if something happens to one of them in an emergency situation, ⁓ you have all those all that detail in order to determine how to treat that person based on the situation that they're in or ⁓ the emergency that they're being affected with.

Jonathan López (08:54)
That's correct. The best way to understand it. Let me give you an example. Let's say you are in a battlefield, you know, with your team. Let's say you are five. So you are with your friends, you and four, and four more. So let's say you're walking in this desert. The system have sensors that can detect the chemistry and some other things in the sweat and

For example, sweat, can also measure heart rate, oxygen with different sensors. Those sensors are distributed around the body. So they are in the extremity.

Heath Fletcher (09:33)
It's all wearable. It's a wearable device system.

Jonathan López (09:37)
Correct, yeah. That's correct.

Heath Fletcher (09:40)
very cool. So it already it's already it's measuring real time. My heart rate, my pulse, ⁓ the oxygen level in my blood, the salt in my system, all those things. It's it's already and it's also taking into account my location geographically.

Jonathan López (09:58)
That's correct. The main thing is here, if you are with your team, for example, in a desert and you are walking, you are dehydrated, for example, that device with the sensors can say, this person is dehydrated. Let's administer X quantity of this compound to maintain him hydrated. So if he's going to work for six hours, he now can work seven hours with being optimist in the physiologic state.

Heath Fletcher (10:00)
Temperature, weather, okay.

Jonathan López (10:27)
not also that, you The system know how you are because of these sensors. And that's the system. That's just one part of the system. That's you. You know your parameters, your physiologic parameters, because there's the systems, there's the administration system, there's the central unit that we are working right now is going to be, we have two, two central units, will have the screen, the information. Right now we are thinking about

just for the prototype, we're thinking about like a watch, you know, a small screen with small details. So you can see how are you internally, you know, you know how you feel, but now you know how are you internally and not, and it's not that it's just one part, but the, the, your friends, your colleagues next to you, they also know how you are because they have access to your, to your situation. So let's say you are dehydrated, you are walking, you, you are with your friend, ⁓ one mile ahead.

I am writing to you, you don't answer. I check, okay, let me see how is he doing. I check my central unit. I see that something is happening to you. You're not responding. And since you're not responding and something is happening to you, my device can tell me the location where you are. So I can go there and not only the location, but the status of your your official estate. And that's that's team awareness.

And that's another part. The other part is base awareness where soldiers in the base know also your physiologic state. They know your physiologic state and they can have also the remote state. And lastly, that's the last resort of this system is automation. Automation is going to... We talked about automation since day one.

because this is the future. I put automation last because I'm walking and I don't feel yet comfortable with something I'm administering, something in me that I don't know, I didn't choose. It's just doing it. People don't like that yet because we are in the boom of AI. We are looking what we can do. So that's why automation is last. If you are in the floor, your friends can get to you.

the soldiers in the base can get to you and nothing can help you. Then, came up. The sensor can be type, okay, this person is having this, is having that, is having this. The algorithm goes and select, okay, this is the most probable outcome here. And if nobody stopped that, for example, like a false alarm, then the system starts making things automatic to maintain that people alive for the period being, you

for him being rescued and stuff. And that's the last part. And the other part, this is the last part, the compounds, the hardware, the administration system, it has multi cartridges. So it's not one compound, it's more than one.

Heath Fletcher (13:38)
Right. Right. So I mean, compounds like, yeah, obviously if you're dehydrated, you know, some sort of fluid electrolytes, steroids, to stimulate some sort of neuro response or physical response of some sort. Right.

Jonathan López (13:57)
That's correct, because not every compound can be administered ⁓ via subcutaneous because, for example, if you have ⁓ a compound that loves water, know, like ⁓ it can't enter because that zone is made of lipids, so the water won't be absorbed good. So you have to work with compounds that are lipophilic and can be administered at that end. So there's a lot of different compounds, for example, ⁓

Ketorolact I think is the name for example for pain. There's pain management for hydration. There's a lot of compounds that can be work. So yes.

Heath Fletcher (14:31)
Yeah. ⁓

Very interesting. It's like wearing an Iron Man suit.

Jonathan López (14:42)
Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. They told me, they told me that when I was here, I went to the engineer to talk to him about the device, the idea. Fun fact, he found me actually on LinkedIn. I was talking about the idea of cannabis and he reached to me and he talked to me and said, okay, well, this sounds great. And the cannabis stuff, then I said, okay, I'm going to make this. But then three months passed and I went to him, okay, look, Alex, I have this.

And he said, whoa, that is promising because Alex is contracted by Caret to the hardware. He's the engineer in the hardware system. And I don't know how that happened, but that guy Alex contacted me, the engineer, and when I saw his head as a man stuff, I found out that he worked for Socom. He worked for the Department of Defense. He have devices approved by FDA. He worked with Striker.

and he worked in Amazon robotics. So I got ⁓ a senior that has all the experience I needed for the work. I don't know how that engineer reached me. don't know how he found me, but it was perfect for the project. And he told me that you're working with a super soldier. That's what he mentioned.

Heath Fletcher (16:00)
Super

Soldier. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's really good. Wow. I mean, it's very cool. I mean, it's and I mean, how many like, you know, like you said, I mean, sure in defense, but like, in other forms of first responders, you know, you can see this application being very successful and

Jonathan López (16:20)
California, for example, the wildfire, there was a lot of people working, including Canada, they had to help. But the problem there was that if a person can work, for example, eight hours, that place didn't help them because there's fire, smoke. So if a human can work four hours, they have to work for three, then rest. So it was hard to keep track because people enter.

They can be there for maybe one, two hours. They have to get back because they inhale, they inhale smoke, you know, they get tired stuff. So with this device now, one of the main thing that I read about in papers about physiologic states in those people that work in those environments that they get dehydrated fast. For example, when they go to work, almost more than half of them are dehydrated already. So they go to the, for example, for the fire department.

And more than half are dehydrated already. They are not working, but they are there. And if an emergency surges, they have to go there dehydrated. They also don't sleep well. They told me. I went to Pompeii in Florida and one of my colleagues and talked to them. And I put in a table all the problems. My colleague is a soldier. He's an Army Sergeant. So I know also my final customer. ⁓

with one of them. So I have different customers in different areas, for example, soldiers, paramedics, in some of doctor, I know doctors, and I put all the problems, you know, in a global and start looking at it. So that's when I decided, okay, medicine is, it has been static for a lot of years. We are working with computers. Now computers are very intelligent. We have AI, we have everything. We are not ⁓

We're getting, for example, a layoff because AI is getting our jobs because we are working with machines and we left the humans behind. So that's why I want to work with humans because what is ⁓ a powerful system if there's nobody to operate it? And we are the brains behind all this stuff. AI is nothing without me. AI ⁓ is nothing without you. So I want to work with the humans so the human is in optimal condition to work.

with the optimal technology that we have. So we can catapult United States again in this area, the AI booming and stuff. So we can stay in that market.

Heath Fletcher (18:53)
So where are you now in the production journey? What stage are you at?

Jonathan López (19:00)
All right, right now, okay, so let me mention this. The company was founded in January 2nd, 2025. And right now, I was invited by, I submitted a pitch for the National Science Foundation and they accepted, so that's ongoing. I'm right now in two incubators in Puerto Rico. I'm in the Science Trust and I'm in the UPR.

EMA-C, that's the public university on Puerto Rico. And I was accepted in those two accelerators. And ⁓ we also have ⁓ a letter of intent to work in the Molecular Science Research Center here in Puerto Rico. That is the most advanced research center in the Caribbean. It's here in Puerto Rico. So I have a place to work there in the sixth floor. So I'm happy for that.

That's right now what we have. also we have the, when I started this, main focus, my main focus was, okay, what is the thing that is most valuable here? It is the device. is the concept. is it? And I thought, oh no, it is the IP, the intellectual property. At that time, I didn't know what was USPTO. Never heard of it. I was going to buy a psychiatrist all my life. That's what I thought.

When I start looking and see what is important, I start working with intellectual property. So I submitted a provisional patent that was on December 27, 2024, before the founding of the company. And then in April, I submitted another one that was for the defense sector. And then in August, I submitted a non-provisional for

for the defense sector and the space sector. So ⁓ I put different parts, condense it in a patent and submit that patent to a non-provisional. So right now we are patent pending. We have the statement of work. We have the place. We have the team. So right now we are font pending to start working with this prototype.

Heath Fletcher (21:26)
And funding stage, have you gone through funding already more than once? What round are you in of that?

Jonathan López (21:32)
No, I haven't had any rounds yet. I started this year. The whole year I did everything by myself. I found my resources stuff because I founded the company and I said to myself, if I go with this idea to a ventures capital and I have nothing, they will want to take a lot of equity. I said, I don't want to give my job, my work to anybody. So I decided to make

that sacrifice for this year, I left out some things for chain man and some other stuff irrelevant to focus on this project. I took everything that I had and focused on this project. So the patents, the funding of the company, everything has been me out of my pocket. did everything myself. yeah.

Heath Fletcher (22:26)
And so you're kind of really preparing to get to the stage where maybe you might be able to present ⁓ and pitch to a potential investor. Is that right?

Jonathan López (22:39)
That's correct. Right now, we are working with federal institutions in the defense sector with the National Science Foundation. We're working with different institutions to get grants, working with grants. We were waiting for the fiscal year to open. The grants opened in January 7.

So there's a lot of grants open and we are working with the project since we have different parts. We're looking for different grants and we are working with that. So right now we have two, three under our scope working actively with that. yeah, funding is, we're working with the fund part.

Heath Fletcher (23:21)
Yeah, yeah. Very interesting. your ⁓ what's been what's been some of your biggest challenges that you've you've had to step through for yourself. I mean, you're you're the founder. So the founder has a unique role in the sense that it's your idea. It's your baby. You're you're kind of getting it to the point where you're feeling comfortable about presenting it and maybe bringing on more more participants or partnerships or what have you.

So what's for you, what's been kind of the biggest growth for you as a founder and maybe some of the challenges you've kind of worked through.

Jonathan López (24:01)
The hardest challenge, think, it has been that, you know, here in Puerto Rico, for you to be a medic, that's the whole standard of the family. So if you're a medic, you know, you're on top of the family. So when I mentioned, ⁓ I'm going to dedicate myself to this, that didn't go well. The first time when I mentioned was cannabis, God, my family is, you know, very religious.

I have my confrontations, the doubt, know, because that's too ambitious. They don't understand the project. tell me why do you, why you don't work as a medic and then you, you, you do that. But, ⁓ so doubt it has been, it has been the, I think the worst part because everything else, you just look for it in Google. You look for it in AI, you just read, read, apply, read, apply. I'm not.

I'm not a founder. I knew nothing about patents. I knew nothing about all this thing I'm working. I just sat down with the technology and start reading. I use my medical skills, know, the ability to sit down for hours and just read. And I just did that and work, work, work. But the hardest part for me was the external doubt, you know, I don't know, maybe friends, family.

everything. you want to do that? Why? You're a doctor. You have your future secure. Why you do that? But people have to understand that it's not always about status. It's not about money. It's about making an impact. And I want to be part of this new era where we work hard with the machines. And I want to work with humans to make that step for the future generations to start building. And that's step that I

that I construct, example, like Steve Jobs, that guy did an awesome job with the phones. Look what they have now. We have a lot of Thanks to that guy sitting under the tree thinking about, know, that's not why. But yeah, so that's my, the hardest thing was the doubt. That was the hardest thing for me, the execution part and all that was relatively easy. But if you want to know about the technical parts, I think the hardest part was

⁓ redact, ⁓ the part of the reduction of the patent because you have to be very careful. You have to, okay, you have to see, for example, I have to sit down and read about metronik, read about, ⁓ pandens, lean all those, all those companies that, that made the insulin pump, for example, that, ⁓ that I wasn't, ⁓ doing using something, ⁓ from then in my, in my invention. So

Technical wise, it was the patent part.

Heath Fletcher (26:53)
Right. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. ⁓ you know, when you were, when you were, when you were thinking about this project and thinking about this idea, ⁓ at one point did you, you, you probably, you sound like you were looking for a lot of different avenues, but at what point did you kind of say, that's it. I'm going after that.

Jonathan López (27:19)
Well, the cannabis was the first idea, like I told you.

Heath Fletcher (27:25)
And maybe explain what was the cannabis idea originally? What was it about?

Jonathan López (27:32)
It was mostly the same. was, was, uh, uh, hard work, the administration of cannabis. So the device was, was going to be called, the device was going to be called. The device was going to, was in the name of the company was the name of the device, the cannabis. And it was for administration of cannabis, so could honestly, and that, that part was the hardware search.

And then I was talking with my colleagues, pharmacy for example, to work with compounds so we can administer cannabis in experience ways. example, this is cannabis wise, but for example, cannabis has, there was a study this year that came with 75 million people that cannabis have compounds that they adhere to some receptors in the heart, the CV2 I think.

and those receptors when they add to those receptors they cause the, for example, the heart to pump harder. The veins and arteries to contract themselves. for example, the heart rate raises, the blood pressure raises, all this stuff. I thought, if I administer cannabis compounds with, for example, antagonists of those receptors? So

I can get the people to feel the effects, to feel the good part, to feel the therapeutic part of cannabis. And the bad part that is, that is for example, the strain in the heart and stuff, I just put a lock so these enzymes can, can enter the door and they just keep flowing. So you get the status, you get the cannabis, you get the feeling, but the bad part stayed out that part. And also the smoke you're not inhaling. So.

That also helps with the health and all this stuff. And for the defense, so I was in cannabis and I saw, I was waiting for cannabis to move from schedule one to schedule three. And I was thinking, if I stay here, I will have to make that device, that device have to go through FDA.

Heath Fletcher (29:29)
Right.

Jonathan López (29:46)
and that's years and cannabis is still legal so that will be hard for me to get ⁓ capital for this project so then I was

Heath Fletcher (29:59)
You kind of a barrier or a wall. so instead of trying to go through that, you pivoted and then went the other direction to go for compounds instead of cannabis.

Jonathan López (30:11)
That's correct because I have seen in this world, for example, Ventures Capitals, when you're working with Deep Tech, I have read that I have seen most Ventures Capitals want to invest, but if you will return the money 10 times in two or three years in Deep Tech, that doesn't happen. So if you are, for example, a tight time like Striker, Microsoft, maybe you can

I can do something like this in, I don't know, maybe a month, but you know, it's not the case here. So yeah, and I decided, after I decided to go to the defense sector, I talked to the engineer and I saw the big picture. said, okay, cannabis is fine. Cannabis is good, it help people, but I want to make a bigger impact. So that's when I said,

I sat down and said, okay, let's work. Let's work with one of the hardest or the hardest industries here in the United States, which are, you know, NASA. Yeah. And yeah, I decided to go that way because you know, Puerto Rico, we have a lot of talent here. We have a lot of good people, but the opportunities here are not that great. So for example, I'm working here with the, with the science dress. I have a grand writer and we were having, you know, kind of, uh, some problems with that.

Uh, but, but we have, we have that and I know a lot of people here, but you know, I just want to people to know Puerto Ricans to know mostly because I'm from here. I'm from Puerto Rico. I'm right now in a mountain with trees and you know, latins, chickens running around. So I'm here and I want to Puerto Ricans to know that you can, you can do global things from here, you know, from, from rural area, you know, I'm here. My grandma lives next to me. Yeah. So the.

They need to know that the brightest, the brightest mind are not necessarily in Silicon Valley, unnecessary in Boston. You know, you can do everything in every place you have. don't have to wait for, yeah, you don't have to wait for the, for the moment. You don't have to work. You don't have to wait for the, for the appropriate time. If you want something just to go. And I want to demonstrate to Puerto Ricans that

We can do stuff globally. are part of the United States. have a great country that you can go there, we can work there. So we can bring, for example, grants here to Puerto Rico, NASA. So I want to put Puerto Rico in the map eventually with, you know, when people say, there's a technology that United States are using and that technology is from a guy, right, from Puerto Rico. So I want to...

Puerto Ricans to see that that is possible. And me doing that, ⁓ working with that, eventually bringing works to Puerto Rico, manufacturing, science. So my main goal right here is impact globally, because I want to make an impact globally in every people and impact locally because I know we have the talent to be in the world. So we have sports, we have artists, we have everything.

We can do it. just want to people, Puerto Ricans, to know that things are possible. Because you were born here in an island, you are condemned to stay here, to be whatever people want you to be. So you can be whatever you want if you work for it. That's all.

Heath Fletcher (33:52)
You got a great story, Jonathan, and ⁓ I think he'll be an inspiration to a lot of people ⁓ when this takes off. So, okay, right now, what's your ask? What are you looking for right now for you for your vision? If you could ask for anything right now, what would it be?

Jonathan López (34:15)
Like for like, like let's say you have a magic lamp or something like that.

Heath Fletcher (34:21)
Anything that you what you're looking for to take you to help you get to the next level.

Jonathan López (34:31)
I don't know how this sounds, right now, since I'm working with the government, with all further entities, I'm working with grants, I'm working with all that.

Right now, like I said, I don't know how this sounds, but right now what I just need is energy to keep working. I have been working, everything has been moving more than great. I didn't thought I was going to be this far off since I started in January. Now I have institutions, have grants, grant writers, I have science trust. I have a lot of eyes on me and that's good because

First, I started out in my inner circle and, know, naturals. Now I have eyes of people, you know, with education and all that stuff looking to me, asking me things. So I just need, you know, like, I need energy to keep working. Eventually, we're going to work on those grants. And when I have the prototype, then we're going to open the rounds for ⁓ capital to enter so we can expand to other things.

eventually.

Heath Fletcher (35:45)
great. Great. That's good. It's good to know what you want next, right? And uh yeah, I uh man, this has been a great story. I'm really uh glad I had this opportunity to hear hear about you and karē and what you're doing uh for the defenses right now. I think it's very inspiring and I'm sure I'm sure a lot of people are gonna be wanting to hear more about this. So, hopefully the podcast helps and you can get this story out a little bit more and uh

can reach newer audiences and maybe find the energy and energy can be in the support in the form of many, it can come in many forms, Energy can come in the forms of other people who can do other things to help you get this across the finish line. So thank you. Hey, if someone's listening to this and they want to track you down and find out more information, where can they go to get that?

Jonathan López (36:39)
Well, my information right now in the company we have, are working with LinkedIn. We are working on our webpage. It's on the construction, but right now mostly my LinkedIn, which ⁓ this is ⁓ post. You have it. I have to say my name for the linking or.

Heath Fletcher (37:00)
That's okay. I'll put the link in the description. But the website's not up and running yet. Is there a URL that people can check back on with it? The website address?

Jonathan López (37:12)
The website, the website address is actually, is actually the name is, is care, care corp.com. ⁓ that under construction, that's, it's the one on the construction, but we are working because of the name, you know, for the webpage, the earth, that, that E is a problem for people and, cutting without the E is taken. So I will eventually have to pay for that domain for me to write.

got it easier so people don't have to, oh, where is that E?

Heath Fletcher (37:44)
Yeah, yeah. So and karē, let's can you I probably saying it wrong. karē, I think I got it somewhat right. karē?

Jonathan López (37:53)
Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, Puerto Rican pronunciation.

Heath Fletcher (37:56)
⁓ What does it mean again? Explain it again.

Jonathan López (38:00)
I feel embarrassed because I thought it meant square because the device is going to be square. I searched, said, karē karē means squares. I don't know, maybe somewhere I read. And I select karē. And then when I ⁓ went and registered the company and all this stuff, I read that karē was a Japanese dish or something. said, well, it's fine, not in Japan. So nobody will know, probably Japanese people, it's fine.

So, karē is a dish but, yeah. Just don't eat it, please.

Heath Fletcher (38:36)
It's not edible. That's funny. Awesome. Well, Jonathan, thank you so much for your time today. I really appreciate you joining me for this conversation and I hope the listeners enjoyed it as well.

Jonathan López (38:48)
Thanks for the opportunity, have a good one.

Heath Fletcher (38:51)
Loved meeting Jonathan, talking to him about his very cool biotech and he's proving what's possible when talent meets purpose. It's a great message for anybody. Thanks for tuning in and we'll see you next time on The Healthy Enterprise.