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Welcome to the Amy Egan podcast, where
each week during the season and every

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other week in the off season, Lindenwood
University head women's basketball coach

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Amy Egan talks about women's basketball
and much, much more.

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And as we head through the March madness
season and out of the regular basketball

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season, we'll be doing the podcast every
other week.

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And in these coming months, Coach Egan
will be inviting high school coaches,

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members of the Lindenwood community and
the community at large to join her for

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more discussions about women's sports,
careers.

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athletics and anything else that we would
think has value to listeners in our

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audience.

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So, Coach Egan, welcome back.

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It's always a pleasure to have you on the
podcast.

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So excited to be here as always.

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And you're probably not winding down
because there's still a lot of basketball

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going on.

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And I, you know, I've I've got my my March
Madness picks in the other room.

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So my wife is going to tease me
mercilessly in the next couple of weeks as

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I miss miss my picks.

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Are you going to be watching some
basketball?

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I don't even know if I'm going to have
time to watch basketball because of all

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this transfer portal stuff.

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No, I love, love, love March Madness.

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And I honestly, I haven't filled out
brackets yet because we've been so busy,

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but I'd like to fill out a bracket, but I
do have my two winners picked.

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I'm picking Yukon for the men and I'm
picking South Carolina for the women.

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So I do know that.

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So.

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stretch, man.

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You're going out on a limb, coach.

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know, like I'm really not picking any, you
know, I know upsets to win it, but, you

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know, I feel like those two have a really
good shot.

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So, so we'll see.

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I need to pick the games in between now.

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Well, first season wrap.

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Tell us, Coach, what went well and what
you and your staff will work to improve on

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for year two at the New England
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I think there's so many things both sides
that you just mentioned.

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I think so many things went well and I
think there's so many things that we

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learned and have opportunities to change
and grow and put our kids and our program

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in a better position.

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So that really, really excites me because
we have found a lot of both.

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I think when you talk about the things
that went really, really well, I mean,

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could sit here and, you know,

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say, hey, you know, we won seven games,
but that's definitely not what we expect.

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That's not where we want to be.

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You know, that's not even average.

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But we did so many things great within
that process of winning their seven games.

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And I think the biggest thing is, you
know, I just loved I love this team that

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we had.

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I love the kids that we had.

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I love the base of the program that we
set, the culture that we set.

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Um, and I think that's so, so important in
your first year is to have the right

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people and the right kids and really laid
that groundwork to build on for further

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going forward and so forth.

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And I think we really, really did that.

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Um, you know, I, we started postseason
this week and I looked at, you know, our,

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our kids just are, they're just working
like they're, they're excited for that

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next step.

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And, uh, they want to continue to build
this into something really, really

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special.

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And we just have a very special group.

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Really excited about that.

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I think that's the number one thing that,
you know, my takeaway from the whole thing

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is we're not where we want to be.

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Uh, but I think we, we are headed in a, in
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direction.

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Um, you know, when you talk about like
changing things, I think there's a lot you

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talk about some of, uh, the X's and O's
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I mean, we kind of came in with a general
idea of, Hey, you know, this is what's

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been successful for us in the past.

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Let's try to stay as true to that as we
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And we did make some adjustments from that
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But now, you know, I think going through
the OVC, we found some stuff that we want

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to change.

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You know, we were switching one through
five.

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We feel like we probably shouldn't switch
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So I think there's some things that we can
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our kids in a more successful position.

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The other, the flip side of that is now I
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You know, like we knew a lot of these kids
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you, you get to know them, you watch a lot
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So you feel like, you know, their game,
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to transition to the college level.

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And so like, you know, we look at, you
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a great example.

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Like we knew she was going to be able to
shoot it, but there's so many things now

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that we know that we need to add to her
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that can continue to take her to the next
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I think we found that out with a lot of
our kids.

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Hey, this is where they're really good at
catching the ball and scoring.

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This is where they're not.

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And so I think one year helps you with
that so that next year, we're not trying

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to figure all that out during the year
with our kids.

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We kind of already have the base of our
kids that we know what they're good at and

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can put them in better positions
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Again, a lot, a lot of things, both sides
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and a lot of things that we want to get
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And I'm really, really excited for that.

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And we've talked a couple of times about
the University of Southern Indiana and

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you've mentioned how pleased and impressed
you are with what they've done there.

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And yet, like Lindenwood, they've got two
more years left on the waiting period

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before they can be eligible for the big
dance to use that term.

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What are your thoughts on that for your
waiting period?

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You knew it coming in, but what are your
thoughts?

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Yeah, I mean, you know, I understand why
the NCAA does it and has done it.

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And I think a lot of that is because there
is a really big jump when you look at

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budgets from D2 to D1 and the number of
scholarships from D2 to D1.

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And then you're not just talking about
women's basketball, you're talking about a

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whole athletic department that's making
that jump usually, you know?

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So like that's a lot of money, you know?

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the NCAA reasoning, a lot of it is to help
with that transition of step by step.

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This year you add another scholarship, you
add more to your budget.

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The next year you add another scholarship.

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One of the things I really feel at
Lindenwood is that we're already there.

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And can things, can we continue to get
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Can we continue to add to our budget,
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Yes, but they've already given us.

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the scholarships and the budgets that we
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So that was a big part of me taking over
and knowing that, hey, we still can't play

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in the NCAA tournament.

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We're going to have to build it anyways a
little bit, but we can still play in the

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WNIT and some of the other postseason
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So, you know, to me, you know, winning a
conference championship and cutting down a

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net, of course we want to get to that
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Yes, but.

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If we can play in the WNIT and still cut
down nets, I'll take that right now for

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sure.

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And I'm guessing, Amy, it was about this
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opportunity might have started to appear
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And now you've had a year to get settled
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And I know from the conversations you and
I've had that the summer was tough because

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you had to put in so much.

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How are you going to do things differently
this summer to get your players ready for

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year two?

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Well, I don't know if you noticed, but I
was smiling when you said that.

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I have just really, really enjoyed this
year at Leonardwood and not just on the

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floor with our kids, but off the floor
with the people on campus, with the

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administration, with people like you,
Gary.

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I mean, it's just been a really, really
good year.

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And people ask me all the time, how do I
feel?

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I'm like, I just love it.

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And they're like, well, you won seven
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I'm like,

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I know it's going to get better, but I
just love it.

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You know, uh, so, um, I think, you know,
that's, that's always, I think, really,

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really exciting is that, um, I'm in a
really, really good place with it, but I

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do think there's a lot last, last summer
was we were still piecing together.

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Even some of our core of our roster, you
know, I had no clue how any, I was still

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piecing together my staff.

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I had no clue how anything worked at
Lindenwood in regards to scheduling the

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gym or.

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How do we get them gear or, you know, all
those kinds of things.

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Now we know all that.

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I would say the biggest, probably the
biggest thing though, is that last summer,

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you know, we spent last summer with our
kids really working on our overall

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schemes, like our defensive scheme, some
of our offensive scheme to kind of lay the

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groundwork for that because we knew it was
going to take a long, long time.

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Well, this summer we won't do as much of
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We'll do a lot more, which we've already
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a lot more like IQ stuff, individual skill
work with them, helping build a lot of

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their games and helping also build a lot
of our IQ.

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And so whether it's coming off screens or
reading screens, just all those little

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things that you just don't have extra time
during the year to do that I think we

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missed out on last summer with this group
because we were all so new, we're still

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piecing everything together.

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So I think that...

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our kids will really, really benefit from
that.

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And I think they're really, really going
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So you mentioned being at Leonard Wood now
for a year, so year two, you know where

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the coffee pot is and all the other stuff
associated with the coffee pot.

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And you know, and it's not been...

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Okay, I did not know that.

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In every organization, there's people who
get things done, people not quite so much.

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And Amy, you've built successful programs
everywhere you've been.

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How will you use year two and the
relationships you've developed both inside

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and outside the university?

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to move that program, to move your program
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Well, I think as a coach, you're always
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be successful.

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And that's definitely something that we
are, we're really working really hard on.

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You know, I think, you know, you look at
like, I mean, I'll give you an example,

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kind of our even team camp last year, you
know, you know, a lot of that was, Hey,

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you know, you've been to our camps before,
you know, would you be interested in

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coming up here to camp?

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And we were able to steal some kids that.

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or some teams that we had consistently a
jury and those kinds of things because

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they enjoyed the way we ran camps and so
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I expect now, you know, last summer we
asked some coaches to take chances on us

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in the St.

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Louis area.

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Hey, come to our camp, see what it's
about, you know.

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I think we got a lot of really good
feedback from it and some things that we

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could grow from as well with that.

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But I think our team camp right now, we
probably have already exceeded with sign

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up the amount of teams that we had last
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And so I expect everything to kind of
continue in the direction we're headed,

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but to go kind of to that next level with
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And I feel like, you know, when you talk
about like, like relationships with kids

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in the area or relationships with high
school coaches in the area, you know, we

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had a kid in the transfer portal today
that I talked to and some parents are

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And she's kind of from the area and she's
said, Hey, we have heard a lot of really

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good things that's happening, not only at
Lindenwood, but within your program.

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So I think words getting out there.

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Um, and I think a lot of positive things
are being said, uh, and that's something

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we want to continue to grow.

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We want to continue to get our name out
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So I guess it was, I stopped by the gin
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with Ellie and Maya.

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They were in one of the sub rooms shooting
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And there was some mutual, yeah, you're
Jim Rans.

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There was some mutual teasing me about
being old, but I've got some games.

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So I teased them and I teased Maya.

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She was shooting some threes that the
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shots went in and hers did not.

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Those are the kind of...

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spontaneous events that I think help make
a college experience memorable.

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You know, relationships across the board,
whether they're all boards like me or

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others.

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And what can you do as a coach to get your
players the opportunities to have those

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community member development experiences
in the four years they're with you?

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I think a lot of that is number one, the
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type of people that you have in your
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I think our kids are really good at
building those relationships.

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You know, we talk in with them that when
you talk about like a relationship,

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whether it's with your significant other
or a relationship with a professor, like

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it's a two -way street and you have to
play your part in that.

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And so our kids understand that like they
have to give.

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you know, if they're going to take and
those kinds of things with it.

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And so I think our kids have really
understood that that's part of, you know,

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within the community, like you have to
give if you want back, you know, and I

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tell them a lot, the more you give, the
more you get.

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Right.

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And so I think they have really bought
into that and invested in that.

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And not only just in our program and
within each other, but also within the

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community of Linda would, you know, our.

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kids, if you talk to, you we have
postseason meetings and that our kids

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generally just really like being at Linda
wood and that's not just basketball.

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You know, that's the campus life.

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That's the professors.

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That's the academic side of things.

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Like, you know, someone will say, I don't
really enjoy school, but if I'm going to

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do school, I like doing it at Linda wood,
you know, but, um, but you run into some

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of that, but they generally just like.

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their everyday life at Linda Wood.

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And I think that says a lot about not only
the people in our program, but the people

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on campus and the people that communicate
on a day -to -day basis, our professors,

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all those people that are involved in this
process are, even if you go as deep as our

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athletic trainer, our strength and
conditioning coach, Maya Wallace is our

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academic advisor, the kids just really
like them.

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And that just helps in their overall
experience that just makes it that much

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better.

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Cool.

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And then one final question before I wrap
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And I know you can't talk about specific
recruits, but you're sitting in the head

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coach's chair.

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And how are you feeling as you're putting
together your second recruiting class at

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London Wood?

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Yeah, I mean, you know, I feel really,
really good because I think we got a lot

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of kids coming back that are really super
good and super talented and have a taste

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of everything, you know, right now.

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They're no longer freshmen, so they have
no excuses anymore.

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So I feel really good first and foremost
because of that, because those kids are

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taking another, you know, another chance
on us, as I like to say, and coming back

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for another year, even though this year
was really hard.

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But, you know, we feel like we got to go
get four kids and some missing pieces that

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we just didn't have this year.

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You know, we weren't great at rebounding.

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We weren't very deep in the post.

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You know, we're losing one of our best
defenders.

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So there's some pieces that we feel like
could, that if we can get out of the

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portal or a JUCO transfer could really,
really benefit our overall program that.

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We're working on it's too early right now.

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I think in the process because the portal
just opened two days ago to really know

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where anything sits with any of those
transfers.

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But I feel like we've had some really good
conversations already.

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We've had some really talented kids reach
out to us already and we've done the same

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thing reaching out to some talented kids.

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So I think we are right now sitting in a
really good spot, but it's way, way too

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early to see where things will will end or
fall.

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I will always say I'll be picky in regards
to it's got to be the right kid, not just

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a kid for us to continue to do what we're
doing and continue to build on what we're

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building.

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Good.

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Well, we've come to an end of this podcast
episode with Lyndenwood University Head

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Women's Basketball Coach Amy Egan.

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And again, we'll be on every other week
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For Gary Stocker and Amy Egan, we'll talk
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