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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>What do I say to her once we get in the car?

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>No problem, Rat. What you need is my special five-point plan.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Come on, Damone, I need real help here.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>What do you mean? Hey, men have died trying to obtain this valuable information, you know.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>But I'll give it to you for free.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Okay, okay, what's your five-point plan?

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>All right.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Now pay attention.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>First of all, Rat, you never let on how much you like a girl.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Oh, Dabby. Hi.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Two, you always call the shots.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Kiss me. You won't regret it.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Now, three, act like wherever you are, that's the place to be.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Isn't this great?

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Four, when ordering food, you find out what she wants, then order for the both of you.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>It's a classy move.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>A lady will have the linguine and white clam sauce and a Coke with no ice.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>And five.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Now this is most important, Rat.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Comes down to making out whenever possible.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Put on side one of Led Zeppelin Forum.

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<v Gary Hill>Hello, folks, and welcome once again to another episode of the Cinema Beef Podcast.

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<v Gary Hill>I'm one of your hosts, Gary Hill.

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<v Gary Hill>With me tonight is one Suzanne Cappelletti.

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<v Gary Hill>How you doing, babe?

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<v Suzanne>Oh, I think we've discussed this

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<v Suzanne>but not as happy

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<v Suzanne>as I wish I could be right now

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<v Gary Hill>Well, Suzanne, you know

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<v Gary Hill>sometimes the world

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<v Gary Hill>makes you fall on a stair and

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<v Gary Hill>just bust your arm

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<v Gary Hill>and sometimes

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<v Gary Hill>you know, where's the line go?

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<v Gary Hill>Sometimes you're the dog

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<v Gary Hill>and sometimes you're the hydrant

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<v Gary Hill>I don't know

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<v Jeffrey X>Sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug

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<v Jeffrey X>There you go

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<v Suzanne>But I was

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<v Suzanne>kind of the hydrant

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<v Suzanne>if you can consider when I was

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<v Suzanne>playing with Nara and she knocked out

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<v Suzanne>four of my teeth.

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<v Gary Hill>So you're like a hydrant player?

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<v Suzanne>Oh no, got that shit repaired

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<v Suzanne>immediately.

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<v Jeffrey X>Is Nara your dog or like a stripper from

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<v Suzanne>Vegas? That's my dog.

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<v Suzanne>That's my Great Dane baby.

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<v Jeffrey X>Oh shit. Ain't no Great

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<v Jeffrey X>Dane babies. Those fuckers are big.

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<v Suzanne>Oh yeah, she's about

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<v Suzanne>125 right now, but she's

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<v Suzanne>a smaller... She's kind of the runt,

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<v Suzanne>so she's a little smaller, but she's not small.

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<v Jeffrey X>Can't confirm that for sure.

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<v Jeffrey X>Y'all dog people freak me out.

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<v Suzanne>Also a cat person

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<v Suzanne>and a snake person and a lizard person.

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<v Suzanne>I like animals. I don't like people.

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<v Gary Hill>Yes, she does. Yes, she does. No, she don't.

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<v Gary Hill>With us at Yurtim talking in the background, so I'll probably introduce him.

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<v Gary Hill>Jeffrey X. Martin is here as well. How you doing, sir?

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<v Jeffrey X>I am well.

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<v Gary Hill>And Dutchess is here, too.

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<v Suzanne>Thank God, somebody is.

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<v Gary Hill>Say hello to Dutchess, too. She's here, too.

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<v Jeffrey X>What's up, Dutchess?

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<v Jeffrey X>My cats are here, too. CD and Twitch are here. You'll hear them running around.

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<v Gary Hill>Yes, indeed. Like cats do. Yes, indeed.

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<v Gary Hill>Keep this cool real loose, you know, because that's the way this show is.

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<v Gary Hill>I'll ask my one co-host, Jeffrey X. Martin, what's he been watching lately?

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<v Jeffrey X>Well, nothing, and let me tell you why.

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<v Jeffrey X>My external hard drive died yesterday.

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<v Jeffrey X>And that was a two-terabyte drive that had all my movies and all my music

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<v Jeffrey X>and my books and my articles on it.

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<v Jeffrey X>And pictures, oh, yes.

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<v Jeffrey X>So now I got nothing.

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<v Jeffrey X>let's see here

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<v Jeffrey X>streaming wise though

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<v Jeffrey X>what was the last thing I watched besides what we covered tonight

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<v Jeffrey X>I've been keeping a list

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<v Jeffrey X>of every movie that I've watched this year

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<v Jeffrey X>on my phone

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<v Jeffrey X>just because at the end of the year

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<v Jeffrey X>I'm going to be like

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<v Jeffrey X>did I actually see that piece of shit?

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<v Jeffrey X>I don't remember

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<v Jeffrey X>so the last thing I watched was

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<v Jeffrey X>oh gods y'all

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<v Jeffrey X>the movie is called

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<v Jeffrey X>We Might Hurt Each Other

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<v Jeffrey X>it is a Swedish slasher movie

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<v Jeffrey X>and I gotta tell you

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<v Jeffrey X>it's the dumbest fucking thing I've seen

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<v Jeffrey X>in years

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<v Jeffrey X>every person in that movie is an idiot

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<v Jeffrey X>they all make terrible decisions

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<v Jeffrey X>they all die in horrible ways

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<v Jeffrey X>and it's their own fault

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<v Jeffrey X>they don't run away from the killer

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<v Jeffrey X>they run toward him

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<v Jeffrey X>why would you do that

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<v Jeffrey X>unless it's the third act

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<v Jeffrey X>and you're the final girl

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<v Jeffrey X>no, everyone

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<v Jeffrey X>there's one point

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<v Jeffrey X>I swear to crap

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<v Jeffrey X>they try to run away so five of them

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<v Jeffrey X>get into a car

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<v Jeffrey X>that won't start but they don't get

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<v Jeffrey X>out of the car

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<v Jeffrey X>so the person who is the killer

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<v Jeffrey X>just punches through the windows

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<v Jeffrey X>and murders all of them

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<v Jeffrey X>are you fucking kidding me

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<v Jeffrey X>why don't you have reflexes

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<v Jeffrey X>so anyway

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<v Gary Hill>that's the last thing I watched

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<v Gary Hill>reminds me of that commercial

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<v Gary Hill>I forget what commercial it's for

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<v Gary Hill>but you know where they're

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<v Gary Hill>let's hide behind the chainsaws

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<v Jeffrey X>the insurance commercial

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<v Gary Hill>I buy the chainsaws

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<v Gary Hill>I buy the running car

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<v Gary Hill>it's so good

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<v Jeffrey X>so anyway I watched that

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<v Jeffrey X>you should not

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<v Suzanne>thank you for your suffering

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<v Jeffrey X>I feel like a martyr

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<v Jeffrey X>I should be canonized

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<v Gary Hill>anything else

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<v Gary Hill>could be a good sir

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<v Jeffrey X>no actually

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<v Jeffrey X>and I've probably talked about this before

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<v Jeffrey X>but my

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<v Jeffrey X>comfort watch

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<v Jeffrey X>when there's nothing else on or I don't have time to get involved

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<v Jeffrey X>in a movie is the

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<v Jeffrey X>Iron Chef channel on Pluto TV

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<v Jeffrey X>and I will just watch Japanese

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<v Jeffrey X>Iron Chef because

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<v Jeffrey X>I love it ever so much it's just like

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<v Jeffrey X>this is battle I don't know

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<v Jeffrey X>fish testicles

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<v Jeffrey X>and the judges are like

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<v Jeffrey X>it's very nice

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<v Jeffrey X>the flavor is

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<v Jeffrey X>really flavorful

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<v Jeffrey X>and I can taste

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<v Jeffrey X>I can taste the fish

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<v Jeffrey X>It's ridiculous, I love it

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<v Jeffrey X>I watch it all the time, and that's it

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<v Suzanne>Oh my god

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<v Suzanne>It is amazing, isn't it?

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<v Suzanne>I love that channel

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<v Jeffrey X>I do too, it's on all the time

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<v Jeffrey X>My wife comes home from work

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<v Jeffrey X>She's like, what are you watching?

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<v Jeffrey X>Oh, is this Battle Scallops?

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<v Jeffrey X>I'm like, yeah, bae

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<v Jeffrey X>Sit down, we're going to town

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<v Suzanne>Oh my god

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<v Suzanne>There was one on Netflix

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<v Suzanne>A couple of years ago

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<v Suzanne>and I can't even remember what the hell

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<v Suzanne>the stupid premise was

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<v Suzanne>but one of the ingredients

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<v Suzanne>was English peas

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<v Suzanne>and one of the women who was

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<v Suzanne>just like I'm not getting that penis

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<v Suzanne>I'm in tears

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<v Suzanne>on the couch

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<v Suzanne>I'm just not getting that

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<v Suzanne>that pea

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<v Suzanne>that she realized

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<v Suzanne>flavor

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<v Suzanne>no you just said you couldn't taste the penis

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<v Suzanne>that was in tears

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<v Suzanne>that was dying

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<v Suzanne>It was amazing.

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<v Jeffrey X>She must have gone to Catholic school.

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<v Gary Hill>Oh, my God.

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<v Gary Hill>Susan, what have you been watching, girl?

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<v Gary Hill>Oh, I actually did it.

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<v Gary Hill>Besides the penis, you know, you were watching that, you know.

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<v Suzanne>Oh, I gotta watch the penis.

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<v Suzanne>No, I actually broke down.

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<v Suzanne>I watched Bratz.

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<v Suzanne>I, from day one, I've never liked Andrew McCarthy.

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<v Suzanne>He just never was one of those characters or actor.

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<v Suzanne>He was a good actor.

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<v Suzanne>Never appealed to me.

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<v Suzanne>And now I was completely correct in my assumption.

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<v Suzanne>He is a fucking whiny bitch.

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<v Suzanne>But I will say this, Emilio, a little bit on the stockier side, but Emilio still looks fucking amazing.

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<v Suzanne>And this was just him wandering through crying about how much he hated the label of the Brat Pack.

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<v Suzanne>It is worth a watch.

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<v Suzanne>I mean, especially my era.

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<v Suzanne>I grew up on all of those movies.

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<v Suzanne>But he is a crybaby.

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<v Suzanne>Oh, my God.

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<v Suzanne>There's a reason I never liked him, and I was correct.

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<v Suzanne>And the other thing I have been watching, several, oh, my God, like mid-90s when Apollo 13 came out, HBO did this little series called From the Earth to the Moon.

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<v Suzanne>And there are a bunch of like one hour episodes about various things that were taking place in the program.

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<v Suzanne>And it's streaming on Macs.

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<v Suzanne>And if you're into that kind of thing, totally recommend it.

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<v Suzanne>When it first came out, maybe I bought the series.

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<v Suzanne>This is probably the second or third time through for me, but I'm just kind of enjoying going through.

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<v Suzanne>episode by episode and kind of reliving all of these because I mean,

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<v Suzanne>just the,

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<v Suzanne>the cast of actors that they had just like it's,

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<v Suzanne>you actually feel like you're back in the sixties is all of these things are

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<v Suzanne>going on.

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<v Suzanne>Totally recommend it.

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<v Suzanne>And then past like,

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<v Suzanne>well,

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<v Suzanne>what about moonshot?

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<v Suzanne>That was the thing that remember Barry Corbin,

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<v Suzanne>who played the astronaut on Northern exposure.

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<v Suzanne>He narrated this little kind of, you know, miniseries about the lunar landings and the missions, which, of course, doesn't exist anywhere except on a VHS tape for way too much money on Amazon.

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<v Suzanne>If anybody's actually hearing this, Moonshot, somebody do something with this, for fuck's sake.

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<v Suzanne>It's fucking great.

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<v Suzanne>I can't stand

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<v Suzanne>if you show me naked and afraid one more time

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<v Suzanne>I'm going to go strip you and throw you in the middle

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<v Suzanne>of downtown Chicago

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<v Suzanne>but that's what I've been watching

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<v Jeffrey X>Would anyone notice if you did that?

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<v Suzanne>Probably not

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<v Suzanne>They'd probably get mugged anyway

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<v Suzanne>and they'd probably shove their hand up his ass

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<v Suzanne>seeing if he had any money heading up there

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<v Jeffrey X>Yeah

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<v Jeffrey X>That's what they do, that's how they're tricky

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<v Suzanne>Watch out for the people running around

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<v Suzanne>with nooses

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<v Suzanne>some ass

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<v Gary Hill>hey turn you the puppets come on now

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<v Gary Hill>oh my god people are

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<v Gary Hill>what have they been watching

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<v Gary Hill>not a ton of new stuff

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<v Gary Hill>I watched

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<v Gary Hill>again it's documentary time

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<v Gary Hill>I sat down but I guess

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<v Gary Hill>I wanted to

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<v Gary Hill>I was looking for a cry I really didn't get one

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<v Gary Hill>because it was very positive all the way through

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<v Gary Hill>even in the end

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<v Gary Hill>remembering Gene Wilder is a documentary

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<v Gary Hill>on Netflix now

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<v Gary Hill>about the life of Gene of course

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<v Gary Hill>and where he came from and his career and his relationship with Gilda

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<v Gary Hill>and his wife before he passed away.

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<v Gary Hill>And it's very well done.

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<v Gary Hill>It's pretty much narrated completely by him through some kind of audio

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<v Gary Hill>describing his career and his life.

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<v Gary Hill>And, you know, so that's, you know, you get the talking heads you want on there.

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<v Gary Hill>And Mel Brooks is on there, of course, talking about his friend.

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<v Gary Hill>And, you know, the ones that are still alive, of course.

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<v Gary Hill>totally worked her time.

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<v Gary Hill>Paired well,

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<v Gary Hill>like a fine meat and cheese

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<v Gary Hill>combo

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<v Gary Hill>with Love, Gilda, which is another

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<v Gary Hill>documentary about

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<v Gary Hill>Gilda Ryder's life, which is

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<v Gary Hill>slightly more sadder.

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<v Gary Hill>It's a lot more sadder, actually, because

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<v Gary Hill>it's actually told through

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<v Gary Hill>audio tapes and

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<v Gary Hill>diaries that she had

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<v Gary Hill>chronicled and kept.

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<v Gary Hill>So she literally

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<v Gary Hill>narrates her whole thing

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<v Gary Hill>through her career

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<v Gary Hill>and her struggles with her bulimia

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<v Gary Hill>and just sickness in general

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<v Gary Hill>and that's very

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<v Gary Hill>well made but it's literally

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<v Gary Hill>her own story is told by

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<v Gary Hill>her that's what makes the Love Guild

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<v Gary Hill>documentary really special

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<v Gary Hill>in my opinion

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<v Gary Hill>sad stuff

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<v Gary Hill>but again

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<v Gary Hill>very positive stuff though

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<v Gary Hill>they try to keep it as positive

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<v Gary Hill>as they possibly can

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<v Gary Hill>you know, until the end where

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<v Gary Hill>Regine

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<v Gary Hill>Alzheimer's gets worse and worse

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<v Gary Hill>and he can't do anything anymore

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<v Gary Hill>and yeah, even then he's smiling

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<v Gary Hill>with the dogs, which makes me

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<v Gary Hill>happy.

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<v Gary Hill>Oh my gosh.

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<v Gary Hill>I was talking X on this

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<v Gary Hill>because I'm trying to sell X on this movie

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<v Gary Hill>because we're going to do it on the show eventually.

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<v Gary Hill>So I would talk a whole lot about it.

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<v Gary Hill>I got a search for

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<v Gary Hill>Bobby Fischer on Laserdisc, so I

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<v Gary Hill>had to watch it and I told X it

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<v Gary Hill>I watched it today, and I was too late to flip the disc over,

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<v Gary Hill>so I watched the second half of that movie a good four times

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<v Gary Hill>while I was editing the podcast and other stuff.

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<v Gary Hill>It just stayed on.

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<v Gary Hill>I've never seen it.

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<v Jeffrey X>I've never seen that movie.

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<v Suzanne>I haven't either.

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<v Gary Hill>It's a great film, great supporting cast, great, great themes.

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<v Gary Hill>We'll talk all about this when we do it eventually.

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<v Jeffrey X>Apparently, we're still searching for it.

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<v Gary Hill>We're still searching for Bobby Fischer.

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<v Gary Hill>a film that's not about Bobby Fisher, people.

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<v Gary Hill>That's another film.

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<v Gary Hill>What was that called?

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<v Gary Hill>Pawn Sacrifice is a film about Bobby Fisher

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<v Gary Hill>and that has

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<v Gary Hill>Liam Shriver in it.

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<v Gary Hill>It's actually pretty decent, actually.

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<v Gary Hill>Go look for both of those movies.

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<v Gary Hill>It will really make you rude

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<v Gary Hill>for a kid to lose.

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<v Gary Hill>Not the kid that you should be loving

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<v Gary Hill>in the movie, but the little bastard

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<v Gary Hill>he has to play.

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<v Gary Hill>You're really rude for that kid to lose

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<v Gary Hill>in search of Bobby Fisher.

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<v Gary Hill>If you really want to root it, I guess a 10-year-old to lose a chess, just go watch that movie.

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<v Gary Hill>It's phenomenal.

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<v Jeffrey X>I have to say, that's one of the things that I appreciate about you, Gary, is that you will watch stuff like Searching for Bobby Fischer, and I'm watching Island of the Fishmen.

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<v Gary Hill>And that's fine.

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<v Gary Hill>Those are two different things, you know, two very different things.

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<v Gary Hill>I will bore you with the context, but I got Riverdale for like 20 bucks one day for the whole series.

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<v Gary Hill>And I missed the last couple of seasons.

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<v Gary Hill>So I've been rewatching my Canadian melodrama and been enjoying myself with it.

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<v Gary Hill>I fall into these shows, people.

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<v Gary Hill>I can't help it.

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<v Gary Hill>Like Pretty Little Liars.

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<v Gary Hill>You would think of something that would appeal to me.

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<v Gary Hill>But, you know, Pretty Rich Girls, you know, murdering, getting any murder plots involved.

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<v Gary Hill>I'm there for it for some reason.

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<v Gary Hill>I blame Degrassi Jr. High for my low Canadian melodrama.

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<v Gary Hill>I blame this because it's something that was on public television,

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<v Gary Hill>and we didn't have cable, so we watched a lot of it.

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<v Gary Hill>So it's that, you know?

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<v Gary Hill>Are the girls in wheelchairs?

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<v Gary Hill>No, no, no.

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<v Gary Hill>No Drake?

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<v Gary Hill>That's New Degrassi, man.

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<v Gary Hill>Come on now.

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<v Gary Hill>Oh, God.

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<v Gary Hill>I'm talking about like bad, like

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<v Gary Hill>square pegs era.

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<v Gary Hill>Degrassi Jr. High.

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<v Jeffrey X>Dude, I can't tell my Degrassi from a hole

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<v Jeffrey X>in the ground.

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<v Gary Hill>So I'm not going to bore you too much with the

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<v Gary Hill>exploits of Archie and Jughead and, you know,

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<v Gary Hill>Veronica and Betty and her

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<v Gary Hill>magical ponytail.

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<v Gary Hill>I got to see it in person. It was...

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<v Gary Hill>Oh, my God.

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<v Gary Hill>I was smitten. I was smitten, brother.

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<v Gary Hill>I'm thinking about right now,

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<v Gary Hill>Betty's ponytail. I dream about the goddamn

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<v Gary Hill>thing. But

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<v Gary Hill>I'm sure there's other stuff. I guess

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<v Gary Hill>NHL, Stanley Cup

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<v Gary Hill>finals, hockey

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<v Suzanne>was very exciting. I watched K7.

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<v Gary Hill>It was very exciting. It was very exciting this year.

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<v Suzanne>Yeah, it was. I'm so

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<v Suzanne>sorry I did not watch that. Yeah, they did.

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<v Suzanne>But I'm so sorry I missed a lot of those games

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<v Suzanne>because it was some amazing hockey. Yeah.

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<v Gary Hill>It makes me happy that it's still alive and well.

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<v Jeffrey X>Did you see the guy eating pasta out of the Stanley Cup?

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<v Jeffrey X>I don't even know who that was because I don't follow hockey.

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<v Jeffrey X>I was just like, God damn, what are you doing with that Chef Bayardee shit?

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<v Gary Hill>Hey, a little fun fact about me.

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<v Gary Hill>My sister thinks this is very disgusting,

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<v Gary Hill>but I still eat SpaghettiOs out of the can without heating them up.

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<v Gary Hill>You know, it's one of those things.

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<v Gary Hill>I'm aware of that.

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<v Gary Hill>Now, Suzanne, I'm aware it's not real spaghetti.

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<v Gary Hill>I just happen to enjoy it, okay?

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<v Gary Hill>You know?

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<v Suzanne>Like I said, to each his own.

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<v Suzanne>I, yeah, I bought a can.

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<v Suzanne>I was feeling nostalgic.

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<v Suzanne>Pat was out of town.

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<v Suzanne>I'm like, oh, you don't want to be really good for lunch, a can of SpaghettiOs.

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<v Suzanne>So I got myself a can of SpaghettiOs, put it in a pot, heated it up, a little salt, a little popper, a little parm.

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<v Suzanne>It was fucking terrible.

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<v Gary Hill>What you're doing is you're expecting more out of something so minuscule.

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<v Gary Hill>and I think that's your fault

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<v Gary Hill>that you did not enjoy the SpaghettiOs

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<v Jeffrey X>I don't think Cootie Bug and I have heated up

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<v Jeffrey X>baked beans in like five years

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<v Jeffrey X>just straight from the can

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<v Gary Hill>my friend Suzanne

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<v Gary Hill>she likes to

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<v Gary Hill>cook delicious food

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<v Gary Hill>and I think she was expecting more

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<v Gary Hill>out of a can of SpaghettiOs

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<v Gary Hill>and I myself am liking a can of SpaghettiOs

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<v Gary Hill>I expect

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<v Gary Hill>very little of myself

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<v Gary Hill>much like that can of SpaghettiOs

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<v Gary Hill>which I'm sure is processed at a factory

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<v Gary Hill>somewhere and maybe

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<v Gary Hill>have a slight tinge of tomato in it

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<v Gary Hill>but you know what god damn it

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<v Gary Hill>it's like fucking Lucky Charms or

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<v Gary Hill>you know those disgusting

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<v Gary Hill>little hugs you used to drink

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<v Gary Hill>as a kid

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<v Gary Hill>they took all the

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<v Gary Hill>sugar out of them which is a bastard thing

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<v Gary Hill>to me

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<v Suzanne>that's blasphemy

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<v Suzanne>that was the point of those things

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<v Suzanne>It was like concentrated sugar

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<v Suzanne>that would make you climb the freaking

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<v Suzanne>walls for hours.

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<v Gary Hill>Well, next time you're in the hood, and I'm sure you'll find

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<v Gary Hill>the hood somewhere, Suzanne, go into

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<v Gary Hill>one of those Arab gas stations. I'm sure they

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<v Gary Hill>have one of those things.

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<v Gary Hill>Go buy a little hug and just

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<v Gary Hill>feel disappointment.

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<v Jeffrey X>It's like you put vodka in it.

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<v Gary Hill>It has no taste.

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<v Gary Hill>It tastes like...

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<v Suzanne>That's what flavored vodka is for.

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<v Gary Hill>My grandfather

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<v Gary Hill>so she would make Kool-Aid with saccharin in it

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<v Gary Hill>instead of sugar.

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<v Gary Hill>That's kind of what it tastes like.

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<v Gary Hill>Or like if somebody took a little hug

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<v Gary Hill>and mixed it together with vitamin water

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<v Gary Hill>and it has that strange aftertaste to it.

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<v Gary Hill>That's what it tastes like now.

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<v Jeffrey X>It tastes like if somebody sucked on a Lifesaver

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<v Jeffrey X>and then spit.

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<v Gary Hill>By the way, they ruined high C as well.

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<v Gary Hill>I used to enjoy putting those high C's in the freezer than just eating them with a spoon.

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<v Gary Hill>But all the sugar is sucked out of those, too.

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<v Gary Hill>But, you know, here's a trade secret.

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<v Gary Hill>You go to McDonald's and you get the orange high C, it still tastes like the real thing.

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<v Suzanne>So does the Hawaiian Punch.

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<v Suzanne>Does it really?

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<v Gary Hill>Yeah.

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<v Gary Hill>And so does the Hawaiian Punch.

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<v Suzanne>Well, Hawaiian Punch has not tasted the same since they put it in a plastic container.

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<v Suzanne>No, you need that aluminum taste.

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<v Suzanne>That is where the flavor is.

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<v Gary Hill>They knocked the sugar out of the Hawaiian Punch, too.

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<v Gary Hill>We're talking about drinks from when we were kids on this show, and I really don't care.

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<v Gary Hill>But again, trade secret.

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<v Gary Hill>Go to McDonald's and get the Hawaiian Punch at McDonald's.

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<v Gary Hill>It still tastes like the real thing.

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<v Gary Hill>You know?

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<v Gary Hill>Here's the thing.

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<v Jeffrey X>It's summer.

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<v Jeffrey X>I don't know if you can get it up where y'all live, but down here, we rely on Milo's tea.

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<v Jeffrey X>And Milo's does a half tea, half lemonade on an Arnold.

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<v Jeffrey X>I can't say it.

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<v Jeffrey X>I can't say his name.

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<v Jeffrey X>Arnold Palmer.

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<v Jeffrey X>That is, okay.

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<v Jeffrey X>Arnold Palmer.

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<v Jeffrey X>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Jeffrey X>But, yeah, if you can find the Milo's Half Lemonade Half Sweet Tea, that is the elixir of life.

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<v Jeffrey X>That is just, that is sandworm bile, and it will get you through anything.

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<v Jeffrey X>It's so good.

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<v Suzanne>Because Tennessee Heat, because I live there, Tennessee Heat is not to be trifled with.

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<v Jeffrey X>Thank you.

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<v Jeffrey X>And my wife, she's out in that all day.

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<v Jeffrey X>We do get that around here.

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<v Gary Hill>I do enjoy the half and half and the Milo's extra sweet tea.

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<v Gary Hill>You might get fucking diabetes from it just by drinking it,

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<v Gary Hill>but it is quite good, the extra sweet tea.

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<v Suzanne>And honestly, the Milo's, the Milo's lemonade,

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<v Suzanne>me and my friend will go through gallons of it

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<v Suzanne>and apparently gallons of fucking vodka with it,

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<v Suzanne>but that is the bomb lemonade.

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<v Jeffrey X>And here's the funny thing.

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<v Jeffrey X>It's because, you know,

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<v Jeffrey X>Cootie grew up watching Ghostbusters 2

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<v Jeffrey X>more than Ghostbusters,

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<v Jeffrey X>so we call it Milos.

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<v Jeffrey X>We call it Milos.

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<v Jeffrey X>Oh, my God.

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<v Jeffrey X>First, it's like the buzzing of flies.

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<v Gary Hill>That's Vigo.

00:21:18.140 --> 00:21:19.740
<v Gary Hill>You were like the buzzing of flies to him.

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<v Gary Hill>Enough of that action.

00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:27.120
<v Gary Hill>And we're here tonight to do a show that Suzanne's been wanting to do for a very long time.

00:21:27.860 --> 00:21:32.020
<v Gary Hill>And spiritual sequels to each other, I guess.

00:21:32.560 --> 00:21:37.700
<v Gary Hill>We are doing The Wildlife from 1984, which is written by Cameron Crowe.

00:21:38.180 --> 00:21:43.860
<v Gary Hill>And we're doing Fast Times Ridge Run High, which is also written by Cameron Crowe based on his book.

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<v Gary Hill>We're going to start these in order, I think.

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<v Gary Hill>Because I think it's important to do that.

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<v Gary Hill>with Fast Times at Ridgemont High,

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<v Gary Hill>from the wonderful year, the best year.

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<v Gary Hill>They're making a documentary about this year, too,

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<v Gary Hill>for film, for 1982, right after this lovely trailer.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Universal Pictures presents

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>everything you always wanted to do in high school

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>with everyone you always wanted to do it with.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Hey, bud, let's party.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>They're the students of Ridgemont High.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Brad Hamilton, the fast food king.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>I shall serve no fries before their time.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>It says 100% guaranteed, you moron.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Listen, if you don't shut up, I'm going to kick 100% of your ass.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Charles Jefferson, a man with a mission.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Oh, gnarly.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Linda Barrett, not exactly the girl next door.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Awesome. Totally awesome.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>And Jeff surfs up Spicoli.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>People on moods should not drive.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>That was my skull.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>I'm so wasted.

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<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>see Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

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<v Gary Hill>Fast Times at Ridgemont High from 1982.

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<v Gary Hill>Cheap applause and options is this.

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<v Gary Hill>A group of Southern California high school students

00:23:42.460 --> 00:23:44.580
<v Gary Hill>are enjoying their most important subjects,

00:23:45.040 --> 00:23:46.320
<v Gary Hill>sex, drugs, and rock and roll.

00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:48.800
<v Gary Hill>That's real fucking cheap, IMDB, but you're welcome.

00:23:49.860 --> 00:23:51.020
<v Gary Hill>directed by Amy Heckerling

00:23:51.540 --> 00:23:53.000
<v Gary Hill>who's made many things

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<v Gary Hill>that I enjoy. Let me

00:23:55.080 --> 00:23:56.960
<v Gary Hill>click on her thing right now.

00:23:58.240 --> 00:23:59.220
<v Gary Hill>Clueless, of course,

00:23:59.360 --> 00:24:00.540
<v Gary Hill>I enjoy very much.

00:24:01.020 --> 00:24:02.560
<v Gary Hill>Look Who's Talking, of course.

00:24:03.280 --> 00:24:04.820
<v Gary Hill>There's more. She did

00:24:04.820 --> 00:24:06.860
<v Gary Hill>the Western Civilization 2

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<v Gary Hill>or she did all of them?

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<v Suzanne>No, no, no, that was

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<v Suzanne>Penelope Spirits.

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<v Gary Hill>I got mixed up, see?

00:24:14.120 --> 00:24:15.540
<v Gary Hill>I'm getting my female directors mixed up.

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<v Gary Hill>But yeah, she makes stuff I enjoy.

00:24:19.380 --> 00:24:21.020
<v Gary Hill>written by Cameron Crowe

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<v Gary Hill>who you know has done many many things

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<v Gary Hill>featuring

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<v Gary Hill>one of the biggest 80s cast

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<v Gary Hill>every 80s casted

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<v Gary Hill>Sean Penn as Jeff Spicoli

00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:32.640
<v Gary Hill>Jennifer Jason Leigh as Stacey Hamilton

00:24:33.340 --> 00:24:34.880
<v Gary Hill>Judge Reinhold as Brad Hamilton

00:24:36.060 --> 00:24:37.260
<v Gary Hill>Robert Romanus

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<v Gary Hill>as Mike Damone

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<v Gary Hill>Brian Backer as Rat

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<v Gary Hill>Phoebe Cates as Linda

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<v Gary Hill>Ray Wallace as Mr. Hand

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<v Gary Hill>Scott Thompson as Arnold

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<v Gary Hill>who you may know from the Police Academy series.

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<v Gary Hill>The great

00:24:50.540 --> 00:24:52.220
<v Gary Hill>Vincent Chiavelli as Mr. Vargas.

00:24:52.820 --> 00:24:54.320
<v Gary Hill>Amanda Weiss, you know,

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<v Gary Hill>from stuff like Megyn Elm Street

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<v Gary Hill>and Better Off Dead.

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<v Gary Hill>Forrest Whitaker as Charles Jefferson.

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<v Gary Hill>This film contains one of the best

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<v Gary Hill>football scenes that ever existed.

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<v Gary Hill>Kelly Maroney

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<v Gary Hill>shows up as Cindy. Eric

00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:10.100
<v Gary Hill>Stoltz shows up as Spicoli's buddy

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<v Gary Hill>and so does Anthony Edwards.

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<v Gary Hill>I will save him

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<v Gary Hill>for the last right now. Great.

00:25:16.460 --> 00:25:19.240
<v Gary Hill>Sonny Carl Davis, because he's a Charlie Band guy,

00:25:19.840 --> 00:25:23.740
<v Gary Hill>shows up as the guy in the restaurant that wants the money back for his breakfast.

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<v Gary Hill>Yeah.

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<v Gary Hill>Love that guy and everything he's ever done.

00:25:29.520 --> 00:25:34.120
<v Gary Hill>That's that guy that's not Reggie Bannister, but he looks like Reggie Bannister.

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<v Gary Hill>You know this guy if you're a genre film fan.

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<v Suzanne>Oh, yeah.

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<v Gary Hill>Oh, my gosh.

00:25:42.590 --> 00:25:45.120
<v Gary Hill>But this is Suzanne's choice.

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<v Gary Hill>I'm going to kick it to X first.

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<v Gary Hill>X, your thoughts on Fast Times and Ridgemont High.

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<v Jeffrey X>There are reasons that Fast Times and Ridgemont High works.

00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.940
<v Jeffrey X>And even today, I mean, there are things that make it dated, obviously.

00:26:01.500 --> 00:26:06.660
<v Jeffrey X>But Fast Times deals with universal themes.

00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:11.960
<v Jeffrey X>Challenging authority, betrayal, egotistical behavior,

00:26:12.940 --> 00:26:22.780
<v Jeffrey X>Stoners and nerds and jocks and the awkwardness of first sexual experiences, especially if they're with the assistant manager of a stereo store.

00:26:23.560 --> 00:26:24.460
<v Jeffrey X>Terrible breakups.

00:26:26.259 --> 00:26:26.940
<v Jeffrey X>Archetypes.

00:26:27.360 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Jeffrey X>All recognizable situations.

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<v Jeffrey X>So people in fast times are almost adults?

00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:35.260
<v Jeffrey X>Not quite.

00:26:35.760 --> 00:26:37.960
<v Jeffrey X>They don't have the nuances down.

00:26:38.550 --> 00:26:40.520
<v Jeffrey X>And they're still learning how to play the game.

00:26:41.040 --> 00:26:47.540
<v Jeffrey X>And I think it's that earnestness that really makes Fast Times work.

00:26:47.860 --> 00:26:52.160
<v Jeffrey X>And it sets it apart from those other teen comedies in the 80s.

00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.060
<v Jeffrey X>There's not a whole lot of wackiness in Fast Times.

00:26:56.060 --> 00:26:56.520
<v Jeffrey X>You know what I mean?

00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:03.880
<v Jeffrey X>It's just these are kids dealing with adult situations that they've pretty much brought upon themselves.

00:27:04.940 --> 00:27:12.080
<v Jeffrey X>So things get convoluted in a realistic and grounded way and not a slapstick sort of way.

00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:13.160
<v Jeffrey X>There's no pie throwing.

00:27:13.800 --> 00:27:17.440
<v Jeffrey X>There's no showing girl panties to the other guys in the bathroom.

00:27:18.260 --> 00:27:22.040
<v Jeffrey X>This is a documentation of the latchkey kids.

00:27:22.670 --> 00:27:25.060
<v Jeffrey X>And this is the generation I grew up in.

00:27:25.500 --> 00:27:29.660
<v Jeffrey X>There's only one parent to be seen in the entire movie.

00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.060
<v Jeffrey X>So Fast Times was just, this is young Gen X, right?

00:27:34.320 --> 00:27:35.760
<v Jeffrey X>Just like when we raised ourselves.

00:27:36.600 --> 00:27:41.280
<v Jeffrey X>When you left 80s kids to themselves, shit went down.

00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.020
<v Jeffrey X>And maybe it hasn't changed that much.

00:27:44.140 --> 00:27:44.800
<v Jeffrey X>I don't know.

00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.020
<v Jeffrey X>But dude, I remember when you could smoke in arcades.

00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.260
<v Jeffrey X>I remember arcades.

00:27:49.800 --> 00:27:52.100
<v Jeffrey X>I remember when you could smoke in cinemas.

00:27:52.760 --> 00:27:55.380
<v Jeffrey X>And you could sit in a restaurant with no shirt on.

00:27:55.900 --> 00:27:58.780
<v Jeffrey X>I remember when concert tickets were that cheap.

00:27:59.300 --> 00:28:01.680
<v Jeffrey X>I remember when chicks tried to look like Pat Benatar.

00:28:02.320 --> 00:28:02.760
<v Jeffrey X>Good grief.

00:28:03.030 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Jeffrey X>It was the Thunderdome out there.

00:28:05.230 --> 00:28:17.620
<v Jeffrey X>And if you were lucky, if you were lucky, you found some other mariners out there who were just drifting along as aimlessly as you, and you helped each other make it through.

00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.360
<v Jeffrey X>And then high school ended, and most of us never saw each other again.

00:28:21.980 --> 00:28:30.840
<v Jeffrey X>So, yeah, but there are elements that date Fast Times, but these themes are ancient and eternal.

00:28:31.360 --> 00:28:33.620
<v Jeffrey X>And that is why this movie holds up.

00:28:34.100 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Jeffrey X>Regardless of your age, there is something to it that you can relate to.

00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:43.600
<v Jeffrey X>Cootie does not like, I always refer to her because, you know, soulmates and whatever.

00:28:44.320 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Jeffrey X>But she doesn't like teen comedy.

00:28:46.040 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Jeffrey X>She hates John Hughes shit.

00:28:47.520 --> 00:28:55.620
<v Jeffrey X>But I'm like, you would probably really like Fast Times at Ridgemont High because it's grounded.

00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:58.320
<v Jeffrey X>And it feels real.

00:28:59.020 --> 00:29:01.240
<v Jeffrey X>And there's no one named Long Duck Dong.

00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Jeffrey X>So I think that she would really like it.

00:29:04.080 --> 00:29:05.380
<v Jeffrey X>And I really like it.

00:29:05.560 --> 00:29:07.460
<v Jeffrey X>I think it's an outstanding film.

00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.180
<v Jeffrey X>Just a great, great dramedy.

00:29:11.380 --> 00:29:13.020
<v Jeffrey X>And I hate that word, but it's a dramedy.

00:29:13.500 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Jeffrey X>But yeah, everybody loves this.

00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:16.120
<v Jeffrey X>You should love this movie.

00:29:16.360 --> 00:29:21.940
<v Jeffrey X>Also, the soundtrack fucking slaps, and fucking Nicolas Cage shows up a couple of times.

00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:22.760
<v Gary Hill>Yep.

00:29:23.380 --> 00:29:32.420
<v Jeffrey X>Eric Stoltz is there, and then he's in the next movie playing another character from this movie, but I'll talk about that later.

00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Jeffrey X>But for me, the best part of Fast Times is Pamela Springsteen and Kelly Maroney as cheerleaders.

00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:42.040
<v Jeffrey X>Fuck yes.

00:29:43.040 --> 00:29:47.660
<v Jeffrey X>That is Sleepaway Camp and Night of the Comet right there.

00:29:48.260 --> 00:29:48.860
<v Jeffrey X>Bada boom.

00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:50.100
<v Jeffrey X>There's your crossover.

00:29:50.560 --> 00:29:51.260
<v Jeffrey X>Love it.

00:29:51.940 --> 00:29:52.080
<v Jeffrey X>Yeah.

00:29:52.540 --> 00:29:53.300
<v Jeffrey X>Fast times rules.

00:29:54.460 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Gary Hill>And by the way, I will defend the donger, you know, for as long as I live.

00:29:59.380 --> 00:30:08.320
<v Gary Hill>Because that guy, you know, for as racially inappropriate as it is, he's the only one that gets the girl early.

00:30:08.900 --> 00:30:10.940
<v Gary Hill>He's probably the only one that gets lucky in that entire movie.

00:30:11.380 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Gary Hill>I'm sure the dog is getting it

00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:15.080
<v Gary Hill>from his large athletic girlfriend

00:30:15.560 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Gary Hill>you know

00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:17.980
<v Jeffrey X>Did Farmer Ted not get lucky?

00:30:18.980 --> 00:30:20.060
<v Jeffrey X>I don't think so

00:30:20.280 --> 00:30:23.120
<v Jeffrey X>I honestly don't remember, it's been years since I've seen that movie

00:30:23.340 --> 00:30:25.080
<v Gary Hill>Farmer Ted, you get a driver home

00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:27.380
<v Gary Hill>but he didn't really touch her

00:30:27.380 --> 00:30:28.120
<v Gary Hill>I wouldn't think

00:30:29.040 --> 00:30:30.700
<v Jeffrey X>That poor son of a bitch

00:30:31.740 --> 00:30:33.480
<v Gary Hill>Suzanne, go for it girl

00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:35.820
<v Suzanne>Oh my god, this is

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:37.940
<v Suzanne>Honestly, I could not

00:30:38.300 --> 00:30:39.699
<v Suzanne>say my thoughts

00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.060
<v Suzanne>any better than X did

00:30:42.350 --> 00:30:44.300
<v Suzanne>because the thing about this movie

00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.040
<v Suzanne>A, it doesn't take itself too seriously

00:30:47.380 --> 00:30:50.340
<v Suzanne>but it's incredibly realistic.

00:30:51.260 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Suzanne>We've all been in some of those situations

00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Suzanne>especially us ancient ass Xers.

00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:01.520
<v Suzanne>We were left to our own devices

00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:06.420
<v Suzanne>We were left to our devices

00:31:06.850 --> 00:31:08.060
<v Suzanne>far too young.

00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Suzanne>By eight years old, I had a list of chores that I had to do after I got home from school.

00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:14.300
<v Suzanne>You know, I let myself in.

00:31:14.340 --> 00:31:15.300
<v Suzanne>I made myself a snack.

00:31:15.380 --> 00:31:16.120
<v Suzanne>I did my Hallmark.

00:31:16.800 --> 00:31:20.720
<v Suzanne>Then I'd run the vacuum or do a couple of little tasks around the house.

00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:25.180
<v Suzanne>And then after all of that was done, maybe I got to go hang out outside for a while.

00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Suzanne>But every part of this movie is, like I said, right down to the breakdown of all the clicks.

00:31:34.520 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Suzanne>I mean, about the time I was in eighth grade, it shifted from Pat Benatar to Madonna.

00:31:39.340 --> 00:31:42.200
<v Suzanne>So I was in school with a bunch of the Madonna wannabes.

00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:43.040
<v Jeffrey X>I'm older.

00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:45.440
<v Suzanne>Oh, really?

00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.540
<v Suzanne>I think the Pat Benatars would have been a lot more fun.

00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:54.060
<v Suzanne>But I was dealing with the Madonna wannabes.

00:31:54.660 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Jeffrey X>The Madonnas didn't hit for me until I went into high school.

00:31:57.760 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Jeffrey X>That's hilarious.

00:31:58.820 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Suzanne>Yeah, I was, like I said, this was about eighth grade when all of the Madonna, seventh, eighth grade when the Madonna stuff hit.

00:32:06.580 --> 00:32:11.100
<v Suzanne>Then all of a sudden somebody would show up with a lace glove and then by, you know, mid eighth grade.

00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:12.480
<v Suzanne>Oh, my God.

00:32:12.630 --> 00:32:15.040
<v Suzanne>People were getting sent to the office for trying.

00:32:15.540 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Suzanne>They would have to wear T-shirts under these stupid ass lace, you know, the bustiers.

00:32:21.580 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Jeffrey X>Yeah.

00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:22.920
<v Suzanne>Oh, my God, people really.

00:32:23.740 --> 00:32:27.980
<v Suzanne>And I guess I've always been cutting a little bit more gothy in my heart.

00:32:28.580 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Suzanne>You know, I throw on my fluorescent shactor striped shirt in a pair of fluorescent socks and jellies.

00:32:35.420 --> 00:32:37.320
<v Suzanne>But, you know, hey, that was the fashion at the time.

00:32:38.080 --> 00:32:39.140
<v Suzanne>No accounting for taste.

00:32:39.460 --> 00:32:41.120
<v Suzanne>No, don't forget to parachute pants.

00:32:42.320 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Suzanne>But it is everything about it.

00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:45.220
<v Suzanne>It's very real.

00:32:45.940 --> 00:32:46.380
<v Suzanne>It is.

00:32:46.410 --> 00:32:49.100
<v Suzanne>And once again, I'm at that age.

00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:50.420
<v Suzanne>I remember going to the arcade.

00:32:50.520 --> 00:32:55.480
<v Suzanne>I remember those ashtrays at McDonald's.

00:32:55.980 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Suzanne>I remember being 15 years old and buying cigarettes and no one gave a shit.

00:33:01.080 --> 00:33:06.260
<v Jeffrey X>Dude, I bought cigarettes and booze and clove cigarettes at 15 and nobody gave a shit.

00:33:07.220 --> 00:33:07.820
<v Suzanne>Exactly.

00:33:09.590 --> 00:33:11.800
<v Suzanne>The only thing that was really weird, we couldn't buy alcohol.

00:33:12.580 --> 00:33:13.519
<v Suzanne>So we had drugs.

00:33:14.840 --> 00:33:15.060
<v Suzanne>Yay.

00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:17.240
<v Suzanne>We had our Spicolis.

00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:24.180
<v Jeffrey X>Yeah, and I had friends who were like, bruv, what do you need? Let me go in here and grab that for you. We're cool.

00:33:25.420 --> 00:33:35.100
<v Suzanne>Yeah, and the other thing that was funny is when I went to, for the first time I went in to see one of our local cannabis, just whatever the fuck they're called.

00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:36.280
<v Jeffrey X>Dispensary.

00:33:36.300 --> 00:33:38.600
<v Suzanne>And the dispensary, thank you.

00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:45.580
<v Suzanne>And I'm like, dude, when I was like 16 years old, you'd go someplace sketchy.

00:33:46.180 --> 00:33:50.220
<v Suzanne>You'd probably get into a car with somebody who was sketchier to go someplace else because they weren't holding.

00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.040
<v Suzanne>So, yeah, how did we even live?

00:33:53.940 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Suzanne>I don't know.

00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Jeffrey X>I never did.

00:33:57.020 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Jeffrey X>By the gods, I did so much.

00:34:01.220 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Suzanne>No, I did my fair share of drinking, too.

00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:05.340
<v Suzanne>the beer of choice when I was in high school

00:34:05.660 --> 00:34:07.340
<v Suzanne>was Milwaukee's best because you

00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.379
<v Suzanne>could get a case

00:34:09.429 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Suzanne>for like $6.99

00:34:11.600 --> 00:34:13.159
<v Suzanne>so you could throw pocket money in

00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:15.300
<v Suzanne>which reminded me of the scene while

00:34:15.399 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Suzanne>they're sitting in All-American Burger

00:34:17.060 --> 00:34:19.040
<v Suzanne>I have a

00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Suzanne>lint and a nickel

00:34:22.080 --> 00:34:23.240
<v Suzanne>I have a cigarette

00:34:24.200 --> 00:34:25.060
<v Suzanne>I have

00:34:25.389 --> 00:34:26.500
<v Suzanne>Uno de Nero

00:34:30.179 --> 00:34:31.620
<v Jeffrey X>Let me tell you

00:34:32.999 --> 00:34:44.659
<v Jeffrey X>I love you, but I need to tell a story real quick, because when I was in high school, which is about the same time, this came in on 84.

00:34:45.409 --> 00:34:47.899
<v Jeffrey X>I would have been a freshman in high school at that time.

00:34:48.389 --> 00:34:50.879
<v Jeffrey X>My drink of choice is what I called Happy Juice.

00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Jeffrey X>And Happy Juice was Seagram's 7 and 7 mixed with Jolt Cola.

00:34:59.620 --> 00:35:07.900
<v Jeffrey X>I am amazed that I'm still alive, but that's what I did, was happy juice, man.

00:35:08.820 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Jeffrey X>And I can't drink whiskey anymore.

00:35:12.680 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Suzanne>Oh, my God.

00:35:13.560 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Suzanne>A couple of girls.

00:35:15.319 --> 00:35:28.660
<v Suzanne>If you want to have the worst concoction ever, one of the girls that I was hanging out with got this brilliant idea to mix Southern Comfort and orange juice.

00:35:29.060 --> 00:35:30.780
<v Suzanne>It tasted like vomit.

00:35:31.740 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Suzanne>Don't ever mix Southern and orange juice.

00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:35.260
<v Suzanne>Vomit.

00:35:35.940 --> 00:35:38.560
<v Jeffrey X>The only Southern comfort I deal with is a Walter Hill movie.

00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:42.520
<v Suzanne>That's probably the best choice.

00:35:44.740 --> 00:35:44.960
<v Jeffrey X>All right.

00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Jeffrey X>I'm sorry.

00:35:45.540 --> 00:35:46.040
<v Jeffrey X>I've interrupted.

00:35:46.080 --> 00:35:46.560
<v Jeffrey X>Go ahead.

00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:47.700
<v Suzanne>Oh, no.

00:35:47.700 --> 00:35:51.160
<v Suzanne>Well, this one, I can seriously wax poetic on this forever.

00:35:52.260 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Suzanne>There's just so many, you know, like I said, you nailed everything.

00:35:59.859 --> 00:36:01.800
<v Suzanne>perfectly and very eloquently.

00:36:02.610 --> 00:36:03.780
<v Suzanne>But it does sum up this movie.

00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.200
<v Suzanne>This is the 80s movie.

00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:08.540
<v Suzanne>This is the one that...

00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:09.400
<v Suzanne>I agree.

00:36:10.500 --> 00:36:12.640
<v Suzanne>I've watched all the John Hughes movies.

00:36:13.600 --> 00:36:16.300
<v Suzanne>They're just a little too saccharine for me.

00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:20.740
<v Suzanne>Everyone who knows me knows I prefer things

00:36:20.790 --> 00:36:23.460
<v Suzanne>that are just a little bit more, I guess, dark.

00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.020
<v Suzanne>Because you have to admit, on top of,

00:36:26.200 --> 00:36:27.200
<v Suzanne>as you said, it's a dramedy.

00:36:27.740 --> 00:36:32.140
<v Suzanne>But there's like a little tinge of darkness to so much of it.

00:36:32.780 --> 00:36:39.700
<v Suzanne>I mean, when he decides when he's going to break up with his girlfriend, then she turns like, I think it's that we've hit that time.

00:36:39.900 --> 00:36:42.160
<v Suzanne>It's time for us to move on.

00:36:42.780 --> 00:36:43.720
<v Suzanne>But I need you now.

00:36:44.240 --> 00:36:46.200
<v Suzanne>And he was getting ready to break up with her.

00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.420
<v Suzanne>And I mean, just the going to the point.

00:36:51.080 --> 00:36:51.960
<v Suzanne>I mean, come on.

00:36:53.340 --> 00:36:55.860
<v Suzanne>And then the encounter with the moan.

00:36:56.040 --> 00:37:04.920
<v Suzanne>It's awkward and sad, and we even have Linda who, okay, let's just say it out loud.

00:37:05.450 --> 00:37:13.980
<v Suzanne>I think everybody who's ever seen the movie, this is probably the most well-known boob scene in all of filmdom.

00:37:14.540 --> 00:37:16.240
<v Jeffrey X>Hey, those tips were moving in stereo.

00:37:20.700 --> 00:37:21.860
<v Suzanne>But it's just...

00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:22.200
<v Gary Hill>Yes, I did.

00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Suzanne>Yeah, I know.

00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Suzanne>I was waiting.

00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:27.780
<v Suzanne>I was waiting and I knew somebody would pick it up.

00:37:29.319 --> 00:37:34.500
<v Suzanne>But man, female, everyone knows that scene.

00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.140
<v Suzanne>There's so much about the movie that's iconic.

00:37:39.140 --> 00:37:44.740
<v Suzanne>I hate using that word because I feel like it's battered around quite a bit lately.

00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:46.700
<v Suzanne>And it shouldn't be.

00:37:47.680 --> 00:37:54.520
<v Suzanne>But it's a real down-to-earth what the 80s were like growing up.

00:37:55.060 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Suzanne>I mean how many people did you know at 14, 15

00:37:57.470 --> 00:37:58.620
<v Suzanne>That had part time jobs

00:37:58.940 --> 00:37:59.640
<v Suzanne>Lots of us did

00:38:00.520 --> 00:38:01.220
<v Jeffrey X>At the mall

00:38:02.520 --> 00:38:03.520
<v Suzanne>Of course we did

00:38:04.620 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Suzanne>You know I swear to god my first job

00:38:06.930 --> 00:38:08.900
<v Suzanne>Was at a fucking coffee shop at the mall

00:38:09.700 --> 00:38:11.400
<v Suzanne>And I was like 15 or 16

00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:13.200
<v Jeffrey X>My first job was at a cinema

00:38:13.410 --> 00:38:13.900
<v Jeffrey X>At the mall

00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:16.060
<v Jeffrey X>Oh you were a rat

00:38:16.180 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Suzanne>You were a rat

00:38:17.660 --> 00:38:19.520
<v Jeffrey X>I was totally a rat dude

00:38:22.940 --> 00:38:24.580
<v Suzanne>The interesting thing to me about this movie

00:38:24.600 --> 00:38:29.540
<v Jeffrey X>He's watching the downfall of Brad Hamilton, Judge Reinhold's character, to see him.

00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:32.840
<v Jeffrey X>I'm a single, independent dude.

00:38:33.140 --> 00:38:39.260
<v Jeffrey X>And then he loses his job and his woman and his shitty fucking car.

00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:41.060
<v Jeffrey X>It's gorgeous.

00:38:41.820 --> 00:38:45.580
<v Jeffrey X>This asshole just completely bottomed out.

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.520
<v Jeffrey X>Because you have to figure he peaked in high school, right?

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.420
<v Jeffrey X>But that didn't last real long.

00:38:52.780 --> 00:38:53.660
<v Jeffrey X>It's amazing.

00:38:54.360 --> 00:39:01.220
<v Suzanne>I mean, you have to admit, when it came time for him to step up and be a good big brother, he did.

00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:02.460
<v Jeffrey X>True, true, true.

00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.500
<v Suzanne>He was, you know, he was an asshole.

00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.660
<v Suzanne>He was a little bit, and you know what?

00:39:10.500 --> 00:39:11.780
<v Suzanne>Pride comes before a fall.

00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:20.320
<v Suzanne>So he did have to take a tumble, but he was, he did end up being the manager of the Mighty March after he thwarted the robbery.

00:39:21.240 --> 00:39:22.080
<v Jeffrey X>Good for you.

00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:22.860
<v Suzanne>Good on you, Brian.

00:39:26.080 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Suzanne>and i mean i've had teachers like mr hands who required you have this list and rigid rules

00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.600
<v Suzanne>but you know when it came down to the end you know they were always there pulling for you it's all

00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:48.819
<v Suzanne>realistic i have to admit one of my favorite things out of this movie is also it's got to be when

00:39:49.260 --> 00:39:52.000
<v Suzanne>the first big tumble for Brad when he gets fired.

00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:54.140
<v Suzanne>And his manager comes down like,

00:39:54.680 --> 00:39:57.140
<v Suzanne>did you threaten this man and use profanity?

00:39:58.220 --> 00:39:59.100
<v Suzanne>Well, yes.

00:39:59.670 --> 00:40:00.200
<v Suzanne>Oh, my God.

00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.120
<v Suzanne>If my boss ever heard me talk to people that got out of hand,

00:40:06.900 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Suzanne>do you know how many times that would have been asked?

00:40:08.500 --> 00:40:10.300
<v Suzanne>Did you threaten this person and use profanity?

00:40:11.160 --> 00:40:11.440
<v Suzanne>Yeah.

00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.360
<v Suzanne>And I also told them they didn't get out of here.

00:40:15.660 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Suzanne>I was going to beat them to death with a baseball bat

00:40:18.820 --> 00:40:21.020
<v Suzanne>to call the police and tell them that they attacked me first.

00:40:22.200 --> 00:40:22.620
<v Suzanne>There you go.

00:40:25.220 --> 00:40:27.380
<v Suzanne>Yeah, it's just one of those movies.

00:40:28.980 --> 00:40:31.620
<v Suzanne>It sums up that point in time.

00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Suzanne>And I don't think it's...

00:40:35.180 --> 00:40:37.020
<v Suzanne>I mean, times have definitely changed,

00:40:37.160 --> 00:40:40.340
<v Suzanne>but I don't think that the core themes of the movie ever will.

00:40:40.940 --> 00:40:41.360
<v Jeffrey X>I agree.

00:40:42.260 --> 00:40:44.840
<v Jeffrey X>Yeah, because they're eternal and archetypal.

00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:46.840
<v Jeffrey X>Yes, I agree with that completely.

00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:49.160
<v Jeffrey X>Hi, we've just gone off. How you doing, Gary?

00:40:49.460 --> 00:40:50.440
<v Jeffrey X>You want to talk about...

00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:50.860
<v Suzanne>Hi, Gary.

00:40:53.059 --> 00:40:55.560
<v Gary Hill>I wouldn't have my view button on because people were talking.

00:40:55.980 --> 00:40:56.680
<v Gary Hill>Yes, they was.

00:40:57.779 --> 00:41:01.020
<v Gary Hill>I, you know, unlike these two, two, two, Remy's,

00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.380
<v Gary Hill>was not born, was not in high school in the 1980s.

00:41:04.939 --> 00:41:07.600
<v Gary Hill>I was barely sperm in 1980.

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:09.740
<v Gary Hill>I was born in December of 1980.

00:41:12.020 --> 00:41:13.560
<v Gary Hill>I get the vibe, I get the love of the movie.

00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.520
<v Gary Hill>I do enjoy the hell out of it.

00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:24.960
<v Gary Hill>Like you said, this is a film in the 80s that has, like, real situations in it that really sticks the landing, you know, as far as, like, taking them seriously.

00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:27.640
<v Gary Hill>And there's no pizza on the record player.

00:41:27.900 --> 00:41:30.100
<v Gary Hill>There's no, you know, archetypal.

00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:37.120
<v Gary Hill>You get, like, one scene of, okay, these are the nerds, these are whatever, you know.

00:41:37.340 --> 00:41:39.500
<v Gary Hill>That's about all you get through this whole movie.

00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:45.160
<v Gary Hill>Besides that, they're pretty united as characters, which I can appreciate about a film like this.

00:41:46.100 --> 00:41:47.900
<v Gary Hill>one mistake this film makes

00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:48.740
<v Gary Hill>is that

00:41:49.550 --> 00:41:51.860
<v Gary Hill>it did indeed

00:41:52.450 --> 00:41:54.160
<v Gary Hill>forget the magnetism of Robin Xander

00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:56.060
<v Gary Hill>and the charisma of Rick Wilson

00:41:56.190 --> 00:41:57.780
<v Gary Hill>because there's no cheap trick song

00:41:57.810 --> 00:41:58.360
<v Gary Hill>in the soundtrack

00:41:59.560 --> 00:42:01.980
<v Jeffrey X>dude I didn't realize that but you're absolutely correct

00:42:02.700 --> 00:42:04.220
<v Jeffrey X>where was Surrender in this

00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:06.640
<v Jeffrey X>Surrender should have been in this film

00:42:07.740 --> 00:42:09.140
<v Suzanne>I want you to want me

00:42:09.230 --> 00:42:10.040
<v Suzanne>should have been in this

00:42:12.240 --> 00:42:13.560
<v Gary Hill>yeah fun times

00:42:13.580 --> 00:42:15.560
<v Gary Hill>I enjoy it every time I watch it

00:42:15.740 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Gary Hill>I've never been to the gallery in California

00:42:18.380 --> 00:42:19.980
<v Gary Hill>but if I watch films like this

00:42:20.040 --> 00:42:21.540
<v Gary Hill>and Commando it's like I've been there

00:42:21.860 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Gary Hill>I can put it that way

00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:25.560
<v Gary Hill>That's right

00:42:25.770 --> 00:42:26.500
<v Jeffrey X>I saw that mall

00:42:28.700 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Gary Hill>But yeah

00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:31.080
<v Gary Hill>I'll have to say

00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.040
<v Gary Hill>lots of young faces that you see

00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.220
<v Gary Hill>young Forrest Whitaker

00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:36.740
<v Gary Hill>but before he became

00:42:38.160 --> 00:42:39.080
<v Gary Hill>to make fun of

00:42:39.720 --> 00:42:41.140
<v Gary Hill>Forrest Whitaker looking up here

00:42:41.220 --> 00:42:43.540
<v Gary Hill>looking down there with the eye

00:42:43.560 --> 00:42:47.080
<v Jeffrey X>Let me say this. Let me interrupt you because I have a point.

00:42:48.410 --> 00:42:51.260
<v Jeffrey X>In this movie, Forrest Whitaker's eye is not lazy.

00:42:51.660 --> 00:42:53.040
<v Jeffrey X>It's just unmotivated.

00:42:56.620 --> 00:42:58.100
<v Gary Hill>He plays Charles Jefferson.

00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:01.480
<v Gary Hill>The star of the football player.

00:43:03.180 --> 00:43:04.060
<v Gary Hill>Of the film.

00:43:05.260 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Gary Hill>I mentioned the football scene. I'm not lying.

00:43:07.990 --> 00:43:10.740
<v Gary Hill>The football action you see in this movie after

00:43:11.220 --> 00:43:13.140
<v Gary Hill>his car gets busted up by Spicoli

00:43:13.230 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Gary Hill>and his little brother.

00:43:16.040 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Suzanne>I got tools.

00:43:17.550 --> 00:43:19.240
<v Suzanne>My dad's a TV repairman.

00:43:21.640 --> 00:43:22.680
<v Gary Hill>Yeah, that's just fucking mad.

00:43:22.680 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Suzanne>I'm sorry, Gary.

00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:24.840
<v Gary Hill>That's okay.

00:43:25.220 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Gary Hill>I'm having issues here, too.

00:43:30.520 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Gary Hill>But yeah, it's like a perfect

00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:33.380
<v Gary Hill>Hayes movie in a sense.

00:43:34.060 --> 00:43:36.120
<v Gary Hill>It gives a little bit of realism.

00:43:36.980 --> 00:43:38.220
<v Gary Hill>Whereas you've got films like this

00:43:38.300 --> 00:43:40.520
<v Gary Hill>and films like The Last American Version,

00:43:40.700 --> 00:43:46.340
<v Gary Hill>which kind of touches on, like, the seriousness of being a teenager, you know, but it gets silly, too.

00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.060
<v Gary Hill>But this is just the right amount of silly.

00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:51.760
<v Gary Hill>And, yes, I did have Mr. Hand in high school.

00:43:52.340 --> 00:43:57.620
<v Gary Hill>He's named Mr. Hayden, and he would do this thing to where you would walk around, and you would say, like,

00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.300
<v Gary Hill>Hey, no, no, some of you used the word dude.

00:44:02.020 --> 00:44:05.400
<v Gary Hill>And then Mr. Hayden would go, dude is the hair of an elephant's ass.

00:44:05.820 --> 00:44:12.660
<v Gary Hill>And then, you know, you look it up and indeed the word D-O-O-D, dude, is a hair on an elephant's ass.

00:44:13.120 --> 00:44:14.340
<v Gary Hill>So it's got that going for it.

00:44:14.620 --> 00:44:17.100
<v Gary Hill>You know, my Mr. Hand.

00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:26.500
<v Gary Hill>And, uh, but no, the soundtracks rock and I will say this and Heavy Metal have two of the best Sammy Hagar songs in them.

00:44:26.700 --> 00:44:29.940
<v Gary Hill>The Fast Times, you know, titular Fast Times song.

00:44:30.500 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Gary Hill>And of course, Heavy Metal and Heavy Metal.

00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:34.580
<v Gary Hill>It's pretty wonderful.

00:44:36.060 --> 00:44:37.740
<v Gary Hill>actually use of American Girl

00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.980
<v Gary Hill>by one

00:44:40.160 --> 00:44:41.460
<v Gary Hill>Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, although

00:44:42.020 --> 00:44:43.720
<v Gary Hill>I usually skip that song now

00:44:44.060 --> 00:44:45.820
<v Gary Hill>because I think Tom Petty's

00:44:46.020 --> 00:44:47.980
<v Gary Hill>ghost is sick of American Girl by now.

00:44:48.100 --> 00:44:49.960
<v Gary Hill>He has to be. He has to be.

00:44:50.300 --> 00:44:50.760
<v Gary Hill>You know.

00:44:52.620 --> 00:44:54.040
<v Gary Hill>There's a lot more to talk

00:44:54.200 --> 00:44:56.160
<v Gary Hill>about. The weirdness

00:44:56.240 --> 00:44:57.060
<v Gary Hill>of Vincent Chevelli

00:44:57.700 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Gary Hill>just, you know, digging around the

00:45:00.180 --> 00:45:01.220
<v Gary Hill>body and, you know,

00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Gary Hill>he just wishes saying,

00:45:03.140 --> 00:45:06.340
<v Gary Hill>It's so good.

00:45:06.640 --> 00:45:07.400
<v Gary Hill>It's so good.

00:45:08.080 --> 00:45:09.880
<v Gary Hill>And like you guys said, a lot of real

00:45:10.500 --> 00:45:12.160
<v Gary Hill>life themes going on in the movie.

00:45:13.940 --> 00:45:14.500
<v Gary Hill>Teen pregnancy

00:45:15.500 --> 00:45:16.580
<v Gary Hill>plays a role in this movie.

00:45:17.140 --> 00:45:19.020
<v Gary Hill>And the douchebag

00:45:19.020 --> 00:45:19.820
<v Gary Hill>that doesn't want

00:45:21.300 --> 00:45:21.960
<v Gary Hill>to help.

00:45:22.120 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Gary Hill>But at the same time,

00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:26.200
<v Gary Hill>Damone, he is trying to help.

00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:27.780
<v Gary Hill>He's trying to get some money together to help her.

00:45:27.900 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Gary Hill>But at the same time,

00:45:30.220 --> 00:45:31.760
<v Gary Hill>Linda, of course, overreacts

00:45:31.780 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Gary Hill>and just lose their fucking mind.

00:45:34.520 --> 00:45:36.420
<v Suzanne>I don't think she overreacted at all.

00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:38.900
<v Suzanne>Well, he was trying to get money together to help her, man.

00:45:39.160 --> 00:45:40.380
<v Jeffrey X>But he didn't.

00:45:41.630 --> 00:45:44.460
<v Suzanne>But he didn't, and he didn't even give her a ride.

00:45:44.900 --> 00:45:46.460
<v Suzanne>Yeah, he's a little prick.

00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:49.260
<v Suzanne>Little prick.

00:45:49.980 --> 00:45:52.420
<v Jeffrey X>I will say this, though, and you are correct,

00:45:52.980 --> 00:45:57.260
<v Jeffrey X>that there are some elements of The Last American Virgin in this movie,

00:45:57.560 --> 00:46:03.200
<v Jeffrey X>which was really based on the old Israeli film series Lemon Popsicle,

00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:05.920
<v Jeffrey X>where a lot of that stuff actually happened.

00:46:06.100 --> 00:46:09.120
<v Jeffrey X>So in some ways, this is a Lemon Popsicle remake,

00:46:10.580 --> 00:46:12.220
<v Jeffrey X>but it's still super good.

00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:13.460
<v Jeffrey X>And Suzanne's right.

00:46:13.940 --> 00:46:15.060
<v Jeffrey X>Motherfucker didn't show up.

00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Jeffrey X>He didn't come up with the money.

00:46:16.780 --> 00:46:17.720
<v Jeffrey X>He's a piece of shit.

00:46:18.260 --> 00:46:22.100
<v Jeffrey X>And the fact that he and Rat ended up as friends at the end of the movie,

00:46:22.380 --> 00:46:23.300
<v Jeffrey X>I wouldn't have done that.

00:46:23.340 --> 00:46:24.820
<v Jeffrey X>I would have cut that son of a bitch off.

00:46:25.640 --> 00:46:26.260
<v Suzanne>Oh, I would have done.

00:46:26.680 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Suzanne>Totally.

00:46:27.580 --> 00:46:30.040
<v Gary Hill>Well, Rat is weak-willed, and according to the end of the film,

00:46:30.890 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Gary Hill>still a virgin, you know, so he's got that going for him.

00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Gary Hill>Which is nice.

00:46:35.660 --> 00:46:35.740
<v Gary Hill>Yeah.

00:46:36.270 --> 00:46:38.240
<v Gary Hill>He did show some balls in the locker room, though,

00:46:38.370 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Gary Hill>and stuff to his friend, you know, so.

00:46:41.380 --> 00:46:41.800
<v Suzanne>Yeah, he did.

00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:43.820
<v Gary Hill>So I'll give Rat.

00:46:43.820 --> 00:46:45.220
<v Suzanne>I think he's going to take him to moan.

00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Gary Hill>Yeah.

00:46:46.460 --> 00:46:47.600
<v Gary Hill>I'll give Rat that much credit.

00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:51.720
<v Gary Hill>He manned up a bit, you know, for his lady friend

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Gary Hill>and against his friend friend, his best friend, supposedly,

00:46:55.780 --> 00:46:57.900
<v Gary Hill>you know but Damone has

00:46:58.100 --> 00:47:00.360
<v Gary Hill>some of the best dialogue in this whole movie

00:47:00.560 --> 00:47:00.720
<v Gary Hill>though

00:47:02.100 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Gary Hill>he's trying to teach Brad how to kick girls

00:47:04.500 --> 00:47:05.380
<v Gary Hill>and he does

00:47:06.300 --> 00:47:08.180
<v Gary Hill>you act like no matter where you are

00:47:08.620 --> 00:47:09.600
<v Gary Hill>that's the place to be

00:47:09.980 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Gary Hill>I love it so much

00:47:12.060 --> 00:47:14.260
<v Gary Hill>talking to the Debbie Harry stand in

00:47:14.740 --> 00:47:16.580
<v Gary Hill>as a cardboard cut out

00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:20.460
<v Suzanne>there's one odd thing in that scene

00:47:21.020 --> 00:47:21.160
<v Suzanne>though

00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.340
<v Suzanne>I don't know if anybody noticed it

00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:25.740
<v Suzanne>there is a movie that came out

00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.540
<v Suzanne>last year, and there was a sign, so I think I know where they stole the name from.

00:47:31.340 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Suzanne>There's a sign, a neon sign, Licorice Pizza.

00:47:34.700 --> 00:47:35.820
<v Jeffrey X>Licorice Pizza, yep.

00:47:37.300 --> 00:47:41.140
<v Suzanne>Same font, same everything, so I think we know where that title came from.

00:47:42.990 --> 00:47:45.780
<v Gary Hill>Yeah, so the relationship gets trained there, and I appreciate that.

00:47:46.150 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Gary Hill>And like you guys said, the decline of Brad Hamilton, I think that, you know, he was a

00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.240
<v Gary Hill>back at first. He came down,

00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:56.020
<v Gary Hill>he had to wear the Captain Hook's

00:47:56.040 --> 00:47:57.780
<v Gary Hill>mission ships outfit, and he was very

00:47:58.380 --> 00:48:00.360
<v Gary Hill>demeaned, but again, came up

00:48:00.520 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Gary Hill>again, because you're

00:48:02.500 --> 00:48:04.340
<v Gary Hill>kind of rooting for him a little bit. Like you guys

00:48:04.500 --> 00:48:06.280
<v Gary Hill>said, he stood up as a big brother, so he kind of

00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.240
<v Gary Hill>had that redemption arc with the

00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:10.160
<v Gary Hill>character, so he kind of wanted

00:48:10.270 --> 00:48:11.780
<v Gary Hill>good things to happen for him again.

00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:14.180
<v Jeffrey X>We rooted for him

00:48:14.230 --> 00:48:16.100
<v Jeffrey X>to grow up, and

00:48:16.300 --> 00:48:18.200
<v Jeffrey X>he sort of did, and

00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.220
<v Jeffrey X>that's where I'm okay with

00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:21.220
<v Jeffrey X>that character arc.

00:48:22.540 --> 00:48:27.540
<v Gary Hill>yeah this is this is um a phil is filled with great character arcs though and there's nothing

00:48:27.780 --> 00:48:36.120
<v Gary Hill>left behind you know on the table and um i i enjoy uh the 80s of it i enjoy the seriousness of it

00:48:36.600 --> 00:48:42.080
<v Gary Hill>i enjoy what x mentioned that the soundtrack is really good and um yeah it's it's it's a

00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:47.760
<v Gary Hill>it's a it's a must watch if you ever seen it before i and no i do not own this on laser disc yet

00:48:48.080 --> 00:48:48.880
<v Gary Hill>one day.

00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:53.000
<v Gary Hill>I'll leave it at that.

00:48:54.050 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Gary Hill>Final thoughts for Sue.

00:48:55.310 --> 00:48:57.040
<v Gary Hill>What was your final thinking, girl?

00:48:57.520 --> 00:48:59.380
<v Suzanne>Okay, well, there's like one thing

00:48:59.530 --> 00:49:00.460
<v Suzanne>I forgot to mention,

00:49:01.380 --> 00:49:02.540
<v Suzanne>and it will come into play again.

00:49:04.260 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Suzanne>The girl in the Corvette.

00:49:06.240 --> 00:49:07.620
<v Suzanne>I think you guys know who that was.

00:49:08.160 --> 00:49:09.260
<v Jeffrey X>Nancy Wilson.

00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:11.940
<v Suzanne>Who was she?

00:49:12.170 --> 00:49:13.820
<v Suzanne>I don't know if they were married at the time,

00:49:14.020 --> 00:49:16.500
<v Suzanne>but who was she eventually married to?

00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:17.760
<v Jeffrey X>Cameron Crowe.

00:49:17.780 --> 00:49:18.700
<v Suzanne>Cameron Crowe.

00:49:19.830 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Suzanne>Yes.

00:49:22.179 --> 00:49:25.660
<v Suzanne>And I just, like I said, for me,

00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:31.800
<v Suzanne>this movie was very realistic about being a teenager in the early 80s.

00:49:32.240 --> 00:49:33.520
<v Suzanne>It doesn't really,

00:49:34.260 --> 00:49:39.240
<v Suzanne>I don't think there's any movie that epitomizes the turmoil and the

00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:43.700
<v Suzanne>idiocy of that more than this film does.

00:49:44.380 --> 00:49:46.200
<v Suzanne>It's almost perfection.

00:49:47.640 --> 00:49:49.100
<v Jeffrey X>well it's a snapshot

00:49:50.060 --> 00:49:51.740
<v Jeffrey X>you know it's a very clear

00:49:53.190 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Jeffrey X>portal

00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:56.260
<v Jeffrey X>into what things were like

00:49:56.780 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Jeffrey X>at that time

00:49:58.560 --> 00:49:59.660
<v Jeffrey X>because when you're in high school

00:50:00.020 --> 00:50:01.720
<v Jeffrey X>everything is just absolutely

00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:03.060
<v Jeffrey X>fucking important

00:50:03.510 --> 00:50:03.680
<v Jeffrey X>you know

00:50:04.420 --> 00:50:07.560
<v Jeffrey X>you don't look at it as you do years on

00:50:07.660 --> 00:50:08.160
<v Jeffrey X>where it's just like

00:50:08.650 --> 00:50:10.080
<v Jeffrey X>oh well that was just high school shit

00:50:10.520 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Jeffrey X>no this was

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:13.180
<v Jeffrey X>happening

00:50:13.790 --> 00:50:15.600
<v Jeffrey X>and of course everything was happening to

00:50:15.620 --> 00:50:17.540
<v Jeffrey X>Jennifer Jason Leigh because good

00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:19.500
<v Jeffrey X>lord that girl

00:50:19.610 --> 00:50:21.380
<v Jeffrey X>wanted to lose her innocence more

00:50:21.780 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Jeffrey X>I mean it took her forever

00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:25.560
<v Jeffrey X>to lose her innocence I was just like

00:50:25.570 --> 00:50:27.480
<v Jeffrey X>I need this shit gone and it was gone

00:50:27.820 --> 00:50:29.640
<v Jeffrey X>bye I got rid of that as soon as I

00:50:29.780 --> 00:50:31.520
<v Jeffrey X>could but no

00:50:31.820 --> 00:50:32.540
<v Jeffrey X>she just really

00:50:33.540 --> 00:50:35.740
<v Jeffrey X>everyone in this movie has a sweet

00:50:36.420 --> 00:50:37.760
<v Jeffrey X>heart with the possible

00:50:38.040 --> 00:50:39.300
<v Jeffrey X>exception of Damone

00:50:39.860 --> 00:50:41.640
<v Jeffrey X>that's debatable but

00:50:41.720 --> 00:50:43.660
<v Jeffrey X>they're just trying to grow up man

00:50:44.140 --> 00:50:45.580
<v Jeffrey X>and that's what makes this

00:50:45.600 --> 00:50:47.900
<v Jeffrey X>movie really relatable.

00:50:48.540 --> 00:50:49.880
<v Jeffrey X>We all just tried to grow up.

00:50:50.240 --> 00:50:51.360
<v Jeffrey X>It doesn't matter what decade

00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:53.380
<v Jeffrey X>or what generation you're from,

00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:55.780
<v Jeffrey X>there's something in this movie that you can

00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Jeffrey X>pull out and be like, oh fuck, that was me.

00:50:58.820 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Suzanne>Well, I mean,

00:50:59.580 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Suzanne>Damone did show heart at the end

00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:03.380
<v Suzanne>when he went and apologized

00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:05.060
<v Suzanne>to Rat

00:51:05.740 --> 00:51:07.860
<v Suzanne>for basically being a horrible friend

00:51:08.040 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Suzanne>and an incredible asshole.

00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:12.580
<v Jeffrey X>Damone can die in a thought.

00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.320
<v Suzanne>But I think that's as close as you're going to get.

00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:17.360
<v Jeffrey X>probably so

00:51:17.980 --> 00:51:18.300
<v Jeffrey X>shithead

00:51:19.500 --> 00:51:21.020
<v Gary Hill>not a complete pass but yeah

00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:22.300
<v Gary Hill>I will agree

00:51:23.619 --> 00:51:25.720
<v Gary Hill>but yeah I dig this quite a bit

00:51:26.040 --> 00:51:26.940
<v Gary Hill>it's a high recommend

00:51:27.680 --> 00:51:29.160
<v Gary Hill>from all of us I'm sure

00:51:29.940 --> 00:51:31.660
<v Gary Hill>if you haven't seen Fast Times

00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:33.860
<v Gary Hill>Ridgemont High it exists many many places

00:51:34.200 --> 00:51:35.820
<v Gary Hill>it's streaming on Prime right now

00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:37.580
<v Gary Hill>there's DVDs

00:51:38.060 --> 00:51:39.560
<v Gary Hill>there's special edition Blu-rays

00:51:39.900 --> 00:51:41.620
<v Gary Hill>I kept telling myself

00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:43.720
<v Gary Hill>I'm going to crack open that Criterion

00:51:43.740 --> 00:51:45.600
<v Gary Hill>Fast Times Blu-ray that I own

00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:47.780
<v Gary Hill>and I still didn't do it. I can tell you

00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:49.900
<v Gary Hill>right now that it is

00:51:50.500 --> 00:51:51.520
<v Gary Hill>it is chock full.

00:51:51.700 --> 00:51:52.420
<v Suzanne>That's what, Gary?

00:51:53.700 --> 00:51:55.560
<v Suzanne>I didn't either, but tonight

00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:57.700
<v Suzanne>after we're done, I'm going to go

00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.800
<v Suzanne>pull out all of those special features

00:52:00.260 --> 00:52:01.780
<v Suzanne>and sit and watch those.

00:52:02.520 --> 00:52:03.980
<v Gary Hill>It is full of special features.

00:52:05.100 --> 00:52:05.980
<v Gary Hill>And except there's

00:52:05.980 --> 00:52:07.740
<v Gary Hill>a sale, which there's always a sale,

00:52:08.140 --> 00:52:09.380
<v Gary Hill>a Criterion sale coming,

00:52:10.040 --> 00:52:11.620
<v Gary Hill>I recommend you guys pick this up

00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:12.520
<v Gary Hill>because it's worth your time.

00:52:13.860 --> 00:52:14.180
<v Gary Hill>but yeah

00:52:15.160 --> 00:52:17.260
<v Gary Hill>good relationships, good times, good tunes

00:52:17.520 --> 00:52:19.380
<v Gary Hill>what's I to love about a film like this

00:52:20.580 --> 00:52:21.480
<v Gary Hill>it's kind of like

00:52:21.580 --> 00:52:21.980
<v Gary Hill>there's like

00:52:22.680 --> 00:52:25.420
<v Gary Hill>there's a hundred bad ones for one good one

00:52:25.780 --> 00:52:26.980
<v Gary Hill>maybe around this time

00:52:27.640 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Gary Hill>and I can't even

00:52:28.540 --> 00:52:29.240
<v Gary Hill>not a hundred

00:52:29.700 --> 00:52:31.000
<v Gary Hill>I mean did you see a film like

00:52:31.420 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Gary Hill>I want to say I've watched other ones

00:52:34.100 --> 00:52:35.440
<v Gary Hill>that are twice in different time frames

00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:37.340
<v Gary Hill>but this is probably the best

00:52:37.520 --> 00:52:39.300
<v Gary Hill>and the most handled one

00:52:39.660 --> 00:52:41.620
<v Gary Hill>of the 80s without being too sleazy

00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:42.640
<v Gary Hill>about it

00:52:42.660 --> 00:52:44.980
<v Gary Hill>It only has a slight tinge of sleaze.

00:52:45.560 --> 00:52:47.100
<v Gary Hill>And most of it is fucking Damone.

00:52:47.340 --> 00:52:49.080
<v Gary Hill>So he's got that going for him.

00:52:49.900 --> 00:52:52.420
<v Gary Hill>And Rob or Ron, the stereo guy.

00:52:54.300 --> 00:52:57.700
<v Jeffrey X>Completely the inspiration for Ben Affleck's character in Mallrats.

00:52:58.560 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Gary Hill>Indeed.

00:52:59.390 --> 00:53:00.240
<v Gary Hill>Indeed, Ron.

00:53:00.940 --> 00:53:04.900
<v Gary Hill>And if you didn't think Kevin Smith had that in mind, I, yeah.

00:53:06.780 --> 00:53:08.000
<v Gary Hill>Like Ron on steroids.

00:53:08.660 --> 00:53:09.560
<v Jeffrey X>Dude, yes.

00:53:10.380 --> 00:53:11.080
<v Gary Hill>Oh my gosh.

00:53:11.600 --> 00:53:15.900
<v Gary Hill>But we're gonna click over to our next 80s jam,

00:53:16.420 --> 00:53:19.080
<v Gary Hill>the spiritual sequel to this movie,

00:53:20.340 --> 00:53:23.200
<v Gary Hill>as Suzanne says, and probably true,

00:53:24.060 --> 00:53:27.100
<v Gary Hill>she'll explain all this, "The Wildlife" from 1984,

00:53:28.180 --> 00:53:30.260
<v Gary Hill>which we'll get to right through this trailer.

00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:32.340
<v Wild Life Trailer>- Hey, this is America, Bill.

00:53:32.540 --> 00:53:34.260
<v Wild Life Trailer>So I want you to live it up, stud man.

00:53:34.720 --> 00:53:36.060
<v Wild Life Trailer>This is the last summer blast.

00:53:39.060 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Wild Life Trailer>- It's a fast life.

00:53:40.900 --> 00:53:41.860
<v Wild Life Trailer>Great. Party Bill.

00:53:41.980 --> 00:53:42.140
<v Wild Life Trailer>Thanks.

00:53:42.380 --> 00:53:43.300
<v Wild Life Trailer>It's a low life.

00:53:43.640 --> 00:53:44.600
<v Wild Life Trailer>Who wants something?

00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:45.480
<v Wild Life Trailer>I do, I do.

00:53:45.780 --> 00:53:46.600
<v Wild Life Trailer>It's a high life.

00:53:48.780 --> 00:53:49.980
<v Wild Life Trailer>It's a wild life.

00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:58.720
<v Wild Life Trailer>Hi, I'm Bill Conrad, and you are...

00:53:59.140 --> 00:53:59.940
<v Fast Times at Ridgemont High>Not interested.

00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:08.240
<v Wild Life Trailer>If you don't get out of here right now, I'm gonna scream.

00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:09.380
<v Wild Life Trailer>You won't scream.

00:54:09.660 --> 00:54:10.140
<v Wild Life Trailer>I'll scream.

00:54:10.560 --> 00:54:11.000
<v Wild Life Trailer>I want to scream.

00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.140
<v Wild Life Trailer>You said you wanted an adventure.

00:54:21.500 --> 00:54:24.060
<v Wild Life Trailer>I just can't believe it's with a car.

00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:31.620
<v Wild Life Trailer>You almost got us killed.

00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:34.340
<v Wild Life Trailer>Hey, as soon as you're scared, you're dead.

00:54:40.660 --> 00:54:42.180
<v Wild Life Trailer>You're the one who needed your freedom.

00:54:42.450 --> 00:54:45.660
<v Wild Life Trailer>Well, I didn't know that was an excuse for you to start going out with the entire male race.

00:54:45.980 --> 00:54:48.660
<v Wild Life Trailer>Born to be wild.

00:54:52.940 --> 00:54:56.360
<v Wild Life Trailer>Now, from the creators of Fast Times at Richmont High,

00:54:57.420 --> 00:54:59.200
<v Wild Life Trailer>comes something even faster.

00:54:59.520 --> 00:55:00.320
<v Wild Life Trailer>Do you like to be my roommate?

00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:02.700
<v Wild Life Trailer>I thought you'd never ask.

00:55:04.060 --> 00:55:04.820
<v Wild Life Trailer>They're doing it.

00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:05.400
<v Wild Life Trailer>It's casual.

00:55:05.700 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Wild Life Trailer>They're saying it.

00:55:06.600 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Wild Life Trailer>It's casual.

00:55:07.240 --> 00:55:10.040
<v Wild Life Trailer>They're living the wildlife.

00:55:10.680 --> 00:55:11.280
<v Wild Life Trailer>It's casual.

00:55:22.520 --> 00:55:27.680
<v Gary Hill>The wildlife from 1984 has a horrible plot synopsis here from the IMDb.

00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:32.500
<v Gary Hill>A high school wrestler parties with his buddy at a swinging singles apartment complex.

00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:39.940
<v Gary Hill>fucking weak sauce shit imdb uh this is directed by art linson who only directed one other thing

00:55:40.220 --> 00:55:44.600
<v Gary Hill>which is um where the buffalo roam which is like the first hunter s thompson film

00:55:45.100 --> 00:55:49.940
<v Gary Hill>with uh bill murray and i think i think randy quaid's in that movie i forget now it's been so

00:55:50.060 --> 00:55:55.460
<v Gary Hill>long since i've seen it no you're right you're right okay um he produced a whole bunch of good

00:55:55.460 --> 00:56:00.280
<v Jeffrey X>shit though so there's that didn't he produce the untouchables diploma's untouchables yeah

00:56:00.300 --> 00:56:10.180
<v Suzanne>yeah he was also the one of the producers on fast time oh shit was he yeah my gosh

00:56:11.660 --> 00:56:18.720
<v Jeffrey X>i associate linson with the untouchables because i love that movie ever so much but okay well of

00:56:19.850 --> 00:56:27.480
<v Gary Hill>course written by cameron crow again um i wouldn't say a lesser 80s cast but a pretty good 80s cast

00:56:27.500 --> 00:56:29.540
<v Gary Hill>nonetheless, because this film has Lee Ving

00:56:29.540 --> 00:56:31.360
<v Gary Hill>in it, so I guess that makes it infinitely

00:56:31.600 --> 00:56:32.940
<v Gary Hill>better than any cast.

00:56:36.220 --> 00:56:37.380
<v Gary Hill>The time where

00:56:37.380 --> 00:56:39.320
<v Gary Hill>you made you think that Chris Penn was a sexy

00:56:39.560 --> 00:56:41.220
<v Gary Hill>man, Chris Penn stars this

00:56:41.620 --> 00:56:43.240
<v Gary Hill>film as Tom, the

00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Gary Hill>bohung jack who wears weights

00:56:45.380 --> 00:56:47.160
<v Gary Hill>out his head while he does set-ups.

00:56:49.040 --> 00:56:49.240
<v Gary Hill>Elon

00:56:49.460 --> 00:56:51.220
<v Gary Hill>Michael Smith, who you will know from stuff

00:56:51.380 --> 00:56:53.260
<v Gary Hill>like The Chocolate War, and of course

00:56:53.380 --> 00:56:55.320
<v Gary Hill>as Wyatt Donnelly from Weird Science

00:56:55.900 --> 00:56:57.040
<v Gary Hill>as Jim Conrad.

00:56:57.660 --> 00:56:59.980
<v Gary Hill>Eric Stoltz as Bill Conrad

00:57:00.060 --> 00:57:01.500
<v Gary Hill>I was forced to watch

00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:04.140
<v Gary Hill>the Fly 2 trailer while I was

00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:06.020
<v Gary Hill>waiting while I had this window

00:57:06.240 --> 00:57:07.080
<v Gary Hill>open so you know

00:57:07.520 --> 00:57:08.940
<v Jeffrey X>I like the Fly 2

00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:11.740
<v Gary Hill>you just get sad about that dog all over again though

00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:13.180
<v Gary Hill>it's a Fly 2 doesn't it

00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:13.640
<v Gary Hill>you know

00:57:15.860 --> 00:57:17.900
<v Gary Hill>like hey hey hey Brundle man

00:57:18.020 --> 00:57:20.140
<v Gary Hill>you got this dog and we're just gonna fuck it up

00:57:20.260 --> 00:57:21.840
<v Gary Hill>for you and just break

00:57:22.140 --> 00:57:24.080
<v Gary Hill>the audience's heart I digress

00:57:24.240 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Gary Hill>though Jenny Wright

00:57:26.100 --> 00:57:26.520
<v Gary Hill>as Eileen

00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:28.880
<v Gary Hill>doesn't get come down in this movie

00:57:29.380 --> 00:57:30.400
<v Gary Hill>like the actual Eileen

00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:32.940
<v Gary Hill>you may know her from Near Dark

00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.800
<v Gary Hill>Leah Thompson who may get come down

00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:39.860
<v Gary Hill>in this movie because she's banging a cop

00:57:40.100 --> 00:57:41.500
<v Gary Hill>she plays Anita

00:57:41.820 --> 00:57:43.400
<v Gary Hill>in this movie which is

00:57:44.040 --> 00:57:44.760
<v Gary Hill>Bill's squeeze

00:57:46.020 --> 00:57:47.700
<v Gary Hill>Rick Moranis as a

00:57:48.120 --> 00:57:49.980
<v Gary Hill>bigger douchebag than he was in Streets of Fire

00:57:50.340 --> 00:57:51.120
<v Gary Hill>as Harry

00:57:51.820 --> 00:57:53.360
<v Gary Hill>the guy who owns the clothing store

00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:54.520
<v Gary Hill>runs the clothing store

00:57:55.340 --> 00:57:57.200
<v Gary Hill>that old Jenny Wright works at.

00:57:57.880 --> 00:57:59.820
<v Jeffrey X>You lead Streets of Fire out of this,

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:01.980
<v Jeffrey X>because that movie is a stone-cold classic.

00:58:02.520 --> 00:58:03.380
<v Jeffrey X>It is a good movie.

00:58:03.560 --> 00:58:05.060
<v Gary Hill>I'm just saying he plays an asshole in it,

00:58:05.060 --> 00:58:05.620
<v Gary Hill>so there's that.

00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:09.400
<v Gary Hill>Hart Bochter,

00:58:10.610 --> 00:58:11.480
<v Gary Hill>if you don't know the name,

00:58:11.530 --> 00:58:12.240
<v Gary Hill>you know the person.

00:58:12.940 --> 00:58:14.680
<v Gary Hill>He is Hans Boobie,

00:58:14.980 --> 00:58:15.740
<v Gary Hill>I'm Your White Knight.

00:58:16.200 --> 00:58:17.460
<v Gary Hill>He's that guy from Die Hard.

00:58:17.900 --> 00:58:18.200
<v Gary Hill>Yes.

00:58:19.300 --> 00:58:20.080
<v Gary Hill>He's in this movie.

00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:22.020
<v Gary Hill>And back to PCU again,

00:58:22.540 --> 00:58:24.040
<v Gary Hill>He directed PCU,

00:58:24.460 --> 00:58:25.600
<v Gary Hill>old Hart Bachner right there.

00:58:25.820 --> 00:58:26.960
<v Gary Hill>He's in a bunch of stuff, though.

00:58:28.980 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Gary Hill>I mentioned Lee Bing.

00:58:30.560 --> 00:58:31.360
<v Gary Hill>He's in this movie.

00:58:32.240 --> 00:58:33.000
<v Gary Hill>Randy Quaid,

00:58:34.600 --> 00:58:35.580
<v Gary Hill>and I could have swore

00:58:35.600 --> 00:58:37.140
<v Gary Hill>that Dennis Hopper was in this movie,

00:58:37.720 --> 00:58:39.620
<v Gary Hill>but I'm thinking of the wrong 80s melodrama.

00:58:39.700 --> 00:58:40.900
<v Gary Hill>That was River's Edge,

00:58:41.160 --> 00:58:43.220
<v Gary Hill>where Dennis Hopper played the crazy

00:58:43.560 --> 00:58:45.220
<v Gary Hill>Vietnam friend who lived in the house

00:58:45.660 --> 00:58:46.640
<v Gary Hill>that they were obsessed with.

00:58:48.640 --> 00:58:49.520
<v Gary Hill>Angel Salazar,

00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:51.720
<v Gary Hill>he'd known for many things, including Scarface.

00:58:53.180 --> 00:58:54.320
<v Gary Hill>I'm just going to get right into this

00:58:55.020 --> 00:58:56.580
<v Gary Hill>I had a much better time

00:58:56.700 --> 00:58:58.380
<v Gary Hill>the second time I watched this than the first time

00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:00.540
<v Gary Hill>I'll kick it to Suzanne first

00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:02.580
<v Gary Hill>what are your thoughts on The Wild Side

00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:04.460
<v Suzanne>babe? I'll be honest

00:59:04.820 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Suzanne>I just

00:59:06.200 --> 00:59:08.400
<v Suzanne>I remember watching it when it first hit

00:59:08.540 --> 00:59:10.220
<v Suzanne>God help me VHS

00:59:10.540 --> 00:59:11.580
<v Suzanne>and I went and rented it

00:59:12.200 --> 00:59:13.400
<v Suzanne>I enjoyed it then

00:59:13.860 --> 00:59:15.220
<v Suzanne>I watched it

00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:18.420
<v Suzanne>a few months ago when we were going to

00:59:18.540 --> 00:59:19.700
<v Suzanne>do this another time

00:59:20.180 --> 00:59:24.780
<v Suzanne>I'm like no I don't know I just maybe I'm missing something so you know watched it again last night

00:59:25.500 --> 00:59:35.440
<v Suzanne>it's just to me it's not a good movie I the characters I mean you know how in fast times

00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Suzanne>I'm going to be drawing a lot of parallels here it's probably not a good thing but we're rolling

00:59:40.820 --> 00:59:50.700
<v Suzanne>with it anyway they're not as real they're they are pretty much cardboard cutouts of what real

00:59:50.940 --> 00:59:55.720
<v Suzanne>people are and i'm just gonna throw this out here which may be one of the things that as i've gotten

00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:04.000
<v Suzanne>older that my distaste for i don't like eric stoltz he's always got that like smarmy wannabe

01:00:04.120 --> 01:00:11.700
<v Suzanne>nice guy bullshit going on i don't like him i don't like his character i really

01:00:12.940 --> 01:00:18.700
<v Suzanne>i mean i guess now for this one for me just it does not hold stand it doesn't hold up at all

01:00:19.240 --> 01:00:24.420
<v Suzanne>him going in getting that apartment my god i've talked to many of my friends who have been

01:00:24.820 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Suzanne>trying to find new apartments now and yeah that was never ever gonna happen um none of the characters

01:00:31.980 --> 01:00:33.360
<v Suzanne>are likable.

01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Suzanne>Even

01:00:36.060 --> 01:00:37.280
<v Suzanne>Anita and Eileen,

01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:38.920
<v Suzanne>they're just kind of

01:00:39.560 --> 01:00:41.700
<v Suzanne>bitchy. And Anita is trying

01:00:41.700 --> 01:00:43.820
<v Suzanne>to be this really sweet,

01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:45.940
<v Suzanne>having her first

01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:47.700
<v Suzanne>real kind of adventurous

01:00:48.620 --> 01:00:49.700
<v Suzanne>thing going on.

01:00:50.340 --> 01:00:51.880
<v Suzanne>And it just comes off

01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:53.040
<v Suzanne>as fake.

01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:55.620
<v Suzanne>I mean, there are a few moments

01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:58.100
<v Suzanne>that the movie has that I find

01:00:58.620 --> 01:00:59.860
<v Suzanne>intriguing, but to be

01:01:00.080 --> 01:01:01.260
<v Suzanne>honest, it's trash.

01:01:02.240 --> 01:01:04.080
<v Suzanne>and once again we do have a Nancy Wilson

01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:06.100
<v Suzanne>cameo were you guys paying attention

01:01:06.380 --> 01:01:06.840
<v Suzanne>to it

01:01:07.660 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Jeffrey X>yes Nancy Wilson

01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:11.980
<v Suzanne>she is the cop that

01:01:12.140 --> 01:01:13.640
<v Suzanne>Anita's banging wife

01:01:14.460 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Suzanne>she's literally on screen

01:01:16.140 --> 01:01:17.380
<v Suzanne>for maybe

01:01:18.180 --> 01:01:19.100
<v Suzanne>15 seconds

01:01:19.670 --> 01:01:20.120
<v Jeffrey X>oh dude

01:01:22.980 --> 01:01:23.660
<v Suzanne>and

01:01:24.600 --> 01:01:25.560
<v Suzanne>Randy Quaid's character

01:01:25.980 --> 01:01:26.320
<v Suzanne>is

01:01:27.700 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Suzanne>once again for me the whole thing we all knew

01:01:29.740 --> 01:01:36.060
<v Suzanne>that one person that was a little bit too obsessed with Vietnam and maybe hung out with somebody that

01:01:36.060 --> 01:01:42.580
<v Suzanne>was a vet that was also a junkie that was about the I think the only stand-up performance in this

01:01:42.680 --> 01:01:52.460
<v Suzanne>for me was that brief the brief bits with Randy Quaid and to be honest I loved leaving he was

01:01:52.560 --> 01:02:00.620
<v Suzanne>the perfect cable installer and i love the fact that he called her a pussy i just i don't like

01:02:00.620 --> 01:02:10.860
<v Suzanne>any of these people i don't care about them their situations are absurd at best the there's no

01:02:11.420 --> 01:02:21.460
<v Suzanne>heart to the story it's it's a very very poor representation and i really don't think it

01:02:21.240 --> 01:02:22.740
<v Suzanne>should ever have been made. I really

01:02:23.220 --> 01:02:25.300
<v Suzanne>have to admit, I don't know if Cameron Crowe

01:02:25.540 --> 01:02:26.520
<v Suzanne>did this for the money.

01:02:27.180 --> 01:02:28.800
<v Suzanne>God, he was trying to make a lightning

01:02:29.600 --> 01:02:31.160
<v Suzanne>strike twice, and it just

01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:32.380
<v Suzanne>was never going to happen.

01:02:33.140 --> 01:02:35.260
<v Suzanne>But there's just very little likable about it.

01:02:36.260 --> 01:02:37.220
<v Suzanne>Like I said, the two

01:02:37.460 --> 01:02:39.220
<v Suzanne>things in the movie I liked, oh yeah, there is one other

01:02:39.780 --> 01:02:41.260
<v Suzanne>weird little thing, because I kept

01:02:41.620 --> 01:02:43.220
<v Suzanne>looking at this scene. Okay, do you remember

01:02:43.240 --> 01:02:44.400
<v Suzanne>when they break through?

01:02:45.380 --> 01:02:47.160
<v Suzanne>Spoiler alert! When they break

01:02:47.220 --> 01:02:49.140
<v Suzanne>into the, they knock down the wall

01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:50.680
<v Suzanne>into his neighbor's apartment.

01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:53.360
<v Suzanne>and those people go

01:02:54.080 --> 01:02:55.440
<v Suzanne>go in the fridge

01:02:56.900 --> 01:02:57.860
<v Suzanne>one of the guys

01:02:58.120 --> 01:02:59.640
<v Suzanne>there was

01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:00.380
<v Suzanne>Ron Wood

01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:03.740
<v Suzanne>so for me I think I spent

01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:05.760
<v Suzanne>most of my time saying is that who I think

01:03:05.770 --> 01:03:07.680
<v Suzanne>it is and trying

01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:09.780
<v Suzanne>not to hate the characters as much as

01:03:09.780 --> 01:03:10.720
<v Suzanne>I actually do

01:03:12.080 --> 01:03:13.880
<v Suzanne>for me it does not

01:03:14.140 --> 01:03:15.900
<v Suzanne>hold up there is no

01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:17.920
<v Suzanne>character there's no

01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Suzanne>it's like I said

01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:21.980
<v Suzanne>it's cheap cardboard cutouts of

01:03:22.180 --> 01:03:24.020
<v Suzanne>real people. I don't like

01:03:24.140 --> 01:03:26.220
<v Suzanne>it. And like I said, Eric Stoltz's

01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.140
<v Suzanne>character is a fucking asshole.

01:03:29.080 --> 01:03:30.080
<v Suzanne>I would punch that

01:03:30.300 --> 01:03:31.180
<v Suzanne>motherfucker in the throat.

01:03:32.720 --> 01:03:33.660
<v Suzanne>He's so smarmy.

01:03:34.520 --> 01:03:35.840
<v Suzanne>He's just, he's

01:03:36.740 --> 01:03:37.620
<v Suzanne>not, he's

01:03:38.040 --> 01:03:39.520
<v Suzanne>no balls. He was a pussy.

01:03:40.300 --> 01:03:42.040
<v Suzanne>I don't like it. I really just

01:03:42.260 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Suzanne>don't, I don't like this movie

01:03:43.970 --> 01:03:45.920
<v Suzanne>at all. Maybe after you

01:03:46.060 --> 01:03:47.860
<v Suzanne>guys have a few things to say, I might find

01:03:47.890 --> 01:03:49.280
<v Suzanne>one or two other things that

01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:51.520
<v Suzanne>I don't hate with a burning passion

01:03:51.860 --> 01:03:53.840
<v Suzanne>but it's bad

01:03:54.240 --> 01:03:55.160
<v Gary Hill>Fair enough

01:03:55.540 --> 01:03:55.740
<v Gary Hill>Thanks

01:03:58.060 --> 01:03:59.740
<v Jeffrey X>Everything good about

01:03:59.980 --> 01:04:01.620
<v Jeffrey X>Fast Times is

01:04:02.120 --> 01:04:03.960
<v Jeffrey X>stupid in about the wildlife

01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:06.020
<v Jeffrey X>There's not a single

01:04:06.820 --> 01:04:08.080
<v Jeffrey X>likable character

01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:09.260
<v Jeffrey X>in this movie

01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:10.940
<v Jeffrey X>except for Hart

01:04:11.200 --> 01:04:12.520
<v Jeffrey X>Bokner's porn stash

01:04:13.420 --> 01:04:13.620
<v Jeffrey X>Okay

01:04:18.540 --> 01:04:19.260
<v Jeffrey X>Maybe

01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:20.380
<v Jeffrey X>She's okay.

01:04:20.930 --> 01:04:28.620
<v Jeffrey X>But Chris Penn plays a different version of Jeff Spicoli, who his brother played in Fast Times.

01:04:29.100 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Jeffrey X>Except this guy is manipulative and insensitive.

01:04:34.460 --> 01:04:40.760
<v Jeffrey X>Leah Thompson hooks up with an older guy before going back to the rat, I mean, Eric Stoltz.

01:04:42.060 --> 01:04:47.160
<v Jeffrey X>Elon Mitchell Smith comes two clicks away from being a Columbine role model.

01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:59.440
<v Jeffrey X>Jenny Wright forgives Chris Penn's character for being a slavering jackal before he puts her in his car against her will.

01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:05.660
<v Jeffrey X>Rick Moranis is a mall creeper with Ghostbusters 2 Janosch hair.

01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:09.980
<v Jeffrey X>And why is there so much cigarette eating?

01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:13.260
<v Jeffrey X>It happens three times in this movie.

01:05:13.600 --> 01:05:19.100
<v Jeffrey X>In the entire decade of the 1980s, I saw it happen in real life once.

01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:20.380
<v Jeffrey X>One time.

01:05:20.940 --> 01:05:21.960
<v Jeffrey X>And that was it.

01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:28.840
<v Jeffrey X>The wildlife leans into ridiculous slapstick, but there's no need for it.

01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:37.060
<v Jeffrey X>I guess this is part of the, uh, let's have a wild and crazy party subgenre, but good grief.

01:05:37.900 --> 01:05:45.120
<v Jeffrey X>With a little more effort and maybe a little less studio meddling, I don't have any evidence of that, but it feels like it,

01:05:45.860 --> 01:05:51.160
<v Jeffrey X>The Wildlife could have been the spiritual sequel to Fast Times.

01:05:51.740 --> 01:05:58.000
<v Jeffrey X>But instead, you've got adults pretending to be in high school, getting into outlandish situations,

01:05:58.220 --> 01:06:04.440
<v Jeffrey X>and in the end, everyone forgives each other for being stupid, and they drive off happy.

01:06:05.060 --> 01:06:06.620
<v Jeffrey X>What the fuck is going on here?

01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:08.200
<v Jeffrey X>This is nonsense.

01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:25.100
<v Jeffrey X>And I think that I am most angry at Elon Mitchell Smith's character because he went from being a Vietnam nerd who blew up the statue in front of the high school to a kid who straightens up after he sees Randy Quaid do heroin.

01:06:25.740 --> 01:06:28.800
<v Jeffrey X>Like, why isn't this kid already on heroin?

01:06:29.180 --> 01:06:33.840
<v Jeffrey X>He should be mainlining heroin in the bathroom at the school.

01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:35.760
<v Jeffrey X>Like, that is his line?

01:06:35.940 --> 01:06:37.500
<v Jeffrey X>Like, he can't cross that.

01:06:37.950 --> 01:06:42.080
<v Jeffrey X>He gets mad because he can't buy weapons at the army surplus store.

01:06:42.720 --> 01:06:45.400
<v Jeffrey X>But heroin is his line?

01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:46.360
<v Jeffrey X>Fuck you.

01:06:46.550 --> 01:06:47.480
<v Jeffrey X>I don't buy that.

01:06:48.100 --> 01:06:52.900
<v Jeffrey X>If you're making a screwball titties and PBR party movie,

01:06:53.420 --> 01:06:56.140
<v Jeffrey X>it's got to be grounded in some sense of reality.

01:06:56.820 --> 01:06:58.460
<v Jeffrey X>And The Wildlife just isn't.

01:06:58.620 --> 01:07:02.060
<v Jeffrey X>It's like a shitty 8-bit simulation of better movies.

01:07:02.980 --> 01:07:04.760
<v Suzanne>Did you see who the

01:07:05.210 --> 01:07:06.520
<v Suzanne>army surplus store

01:07:07.100 --> 01:07:08.300
<v Suzanne>clerk was? That was Ben Stein. Remember

01:07:08.820 --> 01:07:09.920
<v Suzanne>Wayne Ben Stein's money?

01:07:10.610 --> 01:07:12.440
<v Suzanne>And I hated

01:07:12.980 --> 01:07:14.660
<v Suzanne>the catchphrase. That

01:07:14.820 --> 01:07:16.480
<v Suzanne>catchphrase just...

01:07:16.940 --> 01:07:18.520
<v Jeffrey X>It's like fucking fingernails

01:07:18.520 --> 01:07:20.480
<v Jeffrey X>on a chalkboard. Hey, that's casual.

01:07:21.160 --> 01:07:21.680
<v Suzanne>Oh!

01:07:25.590 --> 01:07:25.720
<v Suzanne>Oh!

01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:26.980
<v Suzanne>Oh, God!

01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:28.240
<v Suzanne>It's like...

01:07:29.100 --> 01:07:31.799
<v Suzanne>He got this idea in his head for a catchphrase

01:07:31.820 --> 01:07:34.260
<v Suzanne>and then try to write a movie about it.

01:07:34.820 --> 01:07:36.780
<v Suzanne>It's fucking bad.

01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:39.960
<v Jeffrey X>You shouldn't stop trying to make fetch happen.

01:07:41.200 --> 01:07:41.500
<v Suzanne>Yeah.

01:07:42.780 --> 01:07:43.780
<v Suzanne>That's not how it works.

01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:44.800
<v Suzanne>It's got to be organic.

01:07:46.820 --> 01:07:47.400
<v Gary Hill>Oh, boy.

01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:51.040
<v Gary Hill>Yeah.

01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:54.740
<v Gary Hill>I like this fight way more than I thought I should.

01:07:55.120 --> 01:07:56.880
<v Gary Hill>Because, first of all,

01:07:57.540 --> 01:07:59.140
<v Gary Hill>everything you've seen in Michael Smith then,

01:07:59.640 --> 01:08:01.320
<v Gary Hill>he was kind of like that guy.

01:08:01.580 --> 01:08:02.740
<v Gary Hill>like that nerdy little brother.

01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:05.100
<v Gary Hill>He's still kind of that nerdy little brother in this movie,

01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:08.420
<v Gary Hill>and I think that he's the only one in the film,

01:08:08.780 --> 01:08:12.120
<v Gary Hill>I mean, you guys talk about him seeing Charlie doing heroin in the bathroom,

01:08:12.680 --> 01:08:16.460
<v Gary Hill>who has some kind of redemption arc, in a way,

01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.060
<v Gary Hill>because he doesn't want to live the way he's been living,

01:08:19.140 --> 01:08:24.640
<v Gary Hill>and the old narcissist, you know, heralding, you know,

01:08:25.420 --> 01:08:29.380
<v Gary Hill>wartime, you know, Vietnam people, and yada, yada, yada,

01:08:29.580 --> 01:08:31.500
<v Gary Hill>whatever the fuck the little anarchist is fucking doing

01:08:31.580 --> 01:08:32.960
<v Gary Hill>in the film, but at least

01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:34.400
<v Gary Hill>he changed

01:08:36.100 --> 01:08:37.060
<v Gary Hill>his ideas.

01:08:38.120 --> 01:08:39.319
<v Gary Hill>Now, Eric Stoltz

01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:41.359
<v Gary Hill>in the film, he has no spine

01:08:41.779 --> 01:08:42.779
<v Gary Hill>throughout the entire film

01:08:43.380 --> 01:08:44.080
<v Gary Hill>because he lets

01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:45.620
<v Gary Hill>Tom,

01:08:47.299 --> 01:08:48.279
<v Gary Hill>captain of the wrestling team,

01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:51.400
<v Gary Hill>provoke him

01:08:51.400 --> 01:08:53.180
<v Gary Hill>and make him do just what he wants him to do

01:08:53.779 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Gary Hill>even in the end

01:08:54.980 --> 01:08:56.660
<v Gary Hill>where you have that party

01:08:57.020 --> 01:08:57.699
<v Gary Hill>at the apartment

01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:03.779
<v Gary Hill>and um now if he had any spine he would call the fucking cops because that party is clearly out of

01:09:03.980 --> 01:09:10.339
<v Gary Hill>control you got fucking dumbasses he's fucking knocking a hole in the wall he just casually goes

01:09:10.500 --> 01:09:16.400
<v Gary Hill>next door dancing with anita like yeah here i go i just not living you know these adult

01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:23.599
<v Gary Hill>responsibilities that i'm preaching and uh it's fucking nuts and like you said the other characters

01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.020
<v Gary Hill>are not believable.

01:09:25.740 --> 01:09:27.200
<v Gary Hill>You got Rick Moranis as, again,

01:09:27.980 --> 01:09:29.140
<v Gary Hill>pervy mall skanker

01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:31.560
<v Gary Hill>in this film. I guess he plays that

01:09:31.580 --> 01:09:33.080
<v Gary Hill>role pretty well, I guess.

01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:35.180
<v Gary Hill>I'm sorry.

01:09:38.160 --> 01:09:39.880
<v Gary Hill>It's like watching Teen Witch,

01:09:39.980 --> 01:09:41.960
<v Gary Hill>okay? The girl gets powers in Teen Witch,

01:09:42.339 --> 01:09:43.160
<v Gary Hill>but at the end of the film,

01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:45.600
<v Gary Hill>she still gets to do, she doesn't learn shit

01:09:45.779 --> 01:09:47.740
<v Gary Hill>from her mistakes. None of these people

01:09:47.799 --> 01:09:49.540
<v Gary Hill>in this film do not learn shit

01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:51.500
<v Gary Hill>from their fucking mistakes, except for

01:09:51.799 --> 01:09:53.580
<v Gary Hill>Jim. He learns about

01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:54.540
<v Gary Hill>maybe that's not the way to live.

01:09:55.110 --> 01:09:55.920
<v Gary Hill>Other ones are all like,

01:09:56.320 --> 01:09:56.400
<v Gary Hill>oh,

01:09:56.480 --> 01:09:59.960
<v Gary Hill>I'm still going to hang out with Tom and party down and blah,

01:10:00.160 --> 01:10:00.220
<v Gary Hill>blah,

01:10:00.280 --> 01:10:00.460
<v Gary Hill>blah.

01:10:00.980 --> 01:10:04.160
<v Gary Hill>And these dumb girls will still hang out with us because they're,

01:10:04.260 --> 01:10:05.200
<v Gary Hill>they're those type of girls.

01:10:06.100 --> 01:10:06.160
<v Gary Hill>And,

01:10:06.240 --> 01:10:06.540
<v Gary Hill>um,

01:10:06.860 --> 01:10:08.620
<v Gary Hill>it's just deplorable people.

01:10:09.180 --> 01:10:09.260
<v Gary Hill>And,

01:10:09.320 --> 01:10:10.140
<v Gary Hill>and again,

01:10:10.320 --> 01:10:11.300
<v Gary Hill>like you guys say,

01:10:11.300 --> 01:10:12.380
<v Gary Hill>you don't root for any of them.

01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:13.620
<v Gary Hill>You don't root for any of them.

01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:13.960
<v Gary Hill>And,

01:10:14.910 --> 01:10:15.460
<v Gary Hill>and the,

01:10:15.460 --> 01:10:19.400
<v Gary Hill>the stripper scene with Kit and Navidad is probably one of the best things

01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:19.680
<v Gary Hill>ever.

01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:20.900
<v Gary Hill>If you guys don't know who that is,

01:10:21.060 --> 01:10:23.000
<v Gary Hill>he's a old school porn actress.

01:10:24.360 --> 01:10:24.440
<v Gary Hill>with

01:10:25.700 --> 01:10:27.340
<v Gary Hill>wonderful assets, if you will.

01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:29.160
<v Gary Hill>You know, just shaking

01:10:29.210 --> 01:10:30.740
<v Gary Hill>and being showcased in this movie

01:10:31.380 --> 01:10:32.000
<v Gary Hill>all so well.

01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:33.400
<v Gary Hill>Huge.

01:10:34.180 --> 01:10:34.720
<v Gary Hill>I'm sorry.

01:10:35.310 --> 01:10:36.160
<v Suzanne>I mean, that was the

01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:38.260
<v Suzanne>tits and ass thing

01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:40.220
<v Suzanne>that I guess every 80s movie

01:10:40.480 --> 01:10:41.120
<v Suzanne>had to have

01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:42.560
<v Suzanne>with an R rating,

01:10:43.380 --> 01:10:44.160
<v Suzanne>but it was

01:10:45.410 --> 01:10:46.540
<v Suzanne>just to showcase more

01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:48.480
<v Suzanne>of how much of an ass

01:10:48.940 --> 01:10:49.320
<v Suzanne>Tom was.

01:10:49.510 --> 01:10:51.360
<v Suzanne>If I was those dudes next to him,

01:10:51.400 --> 01:10:53.160
<v Suzanne>I would have fucking thrown his ass out

01:10:53.180 --> 01:10:53.900
<v Suzanne>much earlier.

01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:56.940
<v Gary Hill>Just not your friend. He's not your friend.

01:10:57.120 --> 01:10:58.740
<v Gary Hill>And Bill

01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:00.300
<v Gary Hill>Lord is nothing from the situation.

01:11:00.980 --> 01:11:02.360
<v Gary Hill>There's still buds at the end.

01:11:02.860 --> 01:11:05.080
<v Gary Hill>Like, no, I could possibly fucking get sued

01:11:05.320 --> 01:11:06.680
<v Gary Hill>by the guy that

01:11:07.260 --> 01:11:08.520
<v Gary Hill>makes porno for

01:11:09.320 --> 01:11:10.400
<v Gary Hill>Burt Reynolds and Boogie Nights.

01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:12.740
<v Gary Hill>You know, this could be a major lawsuit.

01:11:12.980 --> 01:11:14.600
<v Gary Hill>I could possibly go to jail for this.

01:11:14.740 --> 01:11:16.660
<v Gary Hill>But you know what? Tom's got some

01:11:16.860 --> 01:11:17.880
<v Gary Hill>PBR in his fridge.

01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:20.700
<v Gary Hill>Let's go party some more and just

01:11:20.810 --> 01:11:22.460
<v Gary Hill>forget about growing up responsibilities

01:11:22.480 --> 01:11:26.940
<v Gary Hill>and, you know, hitting on divorcees by the pool.

01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:31.080
<v Gary Hill>Oh, my gosh.

01:11:31.580 --> 01:11:33.220
<v Gary Hill>That's one redeeming feature.

01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:35.140
<v Jeffrey X>He's attached to his football helmet.

01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:36.660
<v Gary Hill>Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:42.140
<v Gary Hill>One redeeming thing I'll say about this film is he doesn't win anything, Bill.

01:11:42.290 --> 01:11:45.700
<v Gary Hill>He doesn't get the hot divorcees on the poolside.

01:11:46.200 --> 01:11:47.320
<v Gary Hill>He doesn't really get Anita.

01:11:48.100 --> 01:11:49.460
<v Gary Hill>You know, he does.

01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:55.160
<v Gary Hill>But even then, when they get to the party, she's just as dumb and hapless as the rest of them.

01:11:55.540 --> 01:11:59.020
<v Gary Hill>She's like, oh, these morons just knocked down the drywall and, you know,

01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:02.800
<v Gary Hill>ruin these fucking squares evening, playing fucking Scrabble or some shit.

01:12:03.340 --> 01:12:06.740
<v Gary Hill>You know, let's dance and party in their apartment next door.

01:12:07.360 --> 01:12:11.180
<v Gary Hill>Like, no, there's a lot wrong with this situation, and you guys should recognize that.

01:12:11.280 --> 01:12:17.100
<v Gary Hill>And, you know, again, hero of the day is Jim, you know.

01:12:17.820 --> 01:12:18.980
<v Gary Hill>go wide downly

01:12:19.780 --> 01:12:21.540
<v Gary Hill>hold it down for me in this film

01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:23.380
<v Gary Hill>just fucking smoking and

01:12:24.020 --> 01:12:25.120
<v Gary Hill>doing nunchucks and

01:12:25.820 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Gary Hill>carrying a jam box I'm jealous

01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:28.780
<v Gary Hill>of to this day

01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:31.280
<v Gary Hill>it looks like a very good jam box

01:12:31.980 --> 01:12:33.700
<v Jeffrey X>can I slide something in here

01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:34.960
<v Gary Hill>real quick? go ahead

01:12:35.580 --> 01:12:37.780
<v Jeffrey X>sorry but the girl

01:12:38.660 --> 01:12:39.580
<v Jeffrey X>that Jim was

01:12:39.740 --> 01:12:41.580
<v Jeffrey X>attracted to her boyfriend

01:12:42.540 --> 01:12:43.960
<v Jeffrey X>is Dick Rude

01:12:44.440 --> 01:12:45.940
<v Jeffrey X>who was in Repo Man

01:12:46.260 --> 01:12:47.740
<v Jeffrey X>and encouraged people to

01:12:47.940 --> 01:12:55.360
<v Suzanne>do crimes and eat sushi and not pay okay i've been trying to place that boy

01:12:56.140 --> 01:12:59.080
<v Suzanne>the past two times instead of actually going to imdb i'm like

01:12:59.620 --> 01:13:06.040
<v Suzanne>now i was doing the whole way in the before times without internet or cell phones like it'll come

01:13:06.040 --> 01:13:11.940
<v Suzanne>to me it'll come to me holy shit sorry no no no no no and there's one other thing that

01:13:12.180 --> 01:13:13.900
<v Suzanne>He's bugging me about this.

01:13:14.580 --> 01:13:17.080
<v Suzanne>It's a really minute little detail.

01:13:18.040 --> 01:13:18.300
<v Suzanne>Okay.

01:13:19.220 --> 01:13:21.420
<v Suzanne>Bill works at a bowling alley.

01:13:22.100 --> 01:13:23.320
<v Suzanne>What was he getting paid?

01:13:23.460 --> 01:13:25.920
<v Suzanne>Because I remember when he was sitting in the rental office.

01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:28.920
<v Suzanne>Well, I put down the 940 already.

01:13:30.860 --> 01:13:33.100
<v Suzanne>How much are you making at the bowling alley?

01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:36.220
<v Jeffrey X>Honey, he saved up all summer to get that apartment.

01:13:36.780 --> 01:13:37.440
<v Jeffrey X>He said that.

01:13:38.300 --> 01:13:39.540
<v Jeffrey X>Well, I know he did.

01:13:40.340 --> 01:13:41.800
<v Suzanne>He was looking for $5 an hour.

01:13:43.020 --> 01:13:43.800
<v Gary Hill>it's bad

01:13:44.220 --> 01:13:46.200
<v Suzanne>Jesus this is probably back in the day where it was like

01:13:46.380 --> 01:13:46.920
<v Suzanne>335

01:13:47.810 --> 01:13:49.680
<v Gary Hill>well if you worked at the bowling alley my buddy worked at

01:13:50.080 --> 01:13:52.060
<v Gary Hill>you sold weed to the porters in the back

01:13:52.180 --> 01:13:53.660
<v Gary Hill>and you know that's how you made a little bit of money

01:13:53.990 --> 01:13:55.080
<v Gary Hill>right there your extra money

01:13:56.020 --> 01:13:57.980
<v Jeffrey X>Rob that's fair that's completely fair

01:13:58.620 --> 01:13:59.780
<v Gary Hill>but I think

01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:01.440
<v Gary Hill>that Jim is a very

01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:04.040
<v Gary Hill>the only redeemable character in this entire film

01:14:04.360 --> 01:14:05.860
<v Gary Hill>because he realizes

01:14:06.440 --> 01:14:07.880
<v Gary Hill>you know what he was doing was bullshit

01:14:08.480 --> 01:14:10.240
<v Gary Hill>and you could tell that he kind of

01:14:10.940 --> 01:14:12.760
<v Gary Hill>turned it around a little bit for himself.

01:14:13.980 --> 01:14:14.860
<v Gary Hill>So I'll

01:14:14.930 --> 01:14:16.280
<v Gary Hill>commend the Jim character.

01:14:16.820 --> 01:14:18.420
<v Gary Hill>And I'll

01:14:18.790 --> 01:14:20.860
<v Gary Hill>do it. I'm trying to look for redeemable qualities

01:14:21.060 --> 01:14:22.820
<v Gary Hill>in these characters. He's the only one that's

01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:23.980
<v Gary Hill>stretching towards it, okay?

01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:26.160
<v Jeffrey X>No, because

01:14:26.480 --> 01:14:27.720
<v Jeffrey X>he's just like,

01:14:28.160 --> 01:14:29.940
<v Jeffrey X>oh, is there a party going on in my apartment?

01:14:30.450 --> 01:14:31.600
<v Jeffrey X>I don't know where Tom is.

01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:33.740
<v Jeffrey X>We should go somewhere and fuck.

01:14:34.860 --> 01:14:35.780
<v Jeffrey X>Let's find an

01:14:36.080 --> 01:14:37.760
<v Jeffrey X>empty room where we can fuck.

01:14:38.240 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Gary Hill>No, that's Bill.

01:14:40.020 --> 01:14:41.880
<v Jeffrey X>Oh, you're talking about Jim,

01:14:42.340 --> 01:14:43.960
<v Jeffrey X>who suddenly gets straight because

01:14:44.110 --> 01:14:46.060
<v Jeffrey X>he saw Randy Quaid tying one

01:14:46.240 --> 01:14:48.240
<v Gary Hill>off. Yeah, but he has

01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:51.880
<v Gary Hill>a morality moment there.

01:14:52.100 --> 01:14:54.120
<v Gary Hill>To say, hey, maybe I should live my life

01:14:54.190 --> 01:14:56.160
<v Gary Hill>like this. Nobody else has this

01:14:56.420 --> 01:14:56.580
<v Suzanne>movie.

01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:00.340
<v Suzanne>It should have been showcased

01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:02.160
<v Suzanne>a little bit better instead

01:15:02.190 --> 01:15:04.480
<v Suzanne>of him, instead of wearing army fatigues

01:15:04.540 --> 01:15:06.460
<v Suzanne>instead of wearing a flannel shirt and a pair of jeans.

01:15:07.320 --> 01:15:08.400
<v Suzanne>You know, it's like, I know

01:15:08.400 --> 01:15:10.260
<v Suzanne>like I said, we don't need the shit spoon fed

01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:11.220
<v Suzanne>to us, but

01:15:11.740 --> 01:15:14.460
<v Suzanne>you almost kind of need at least

01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:16.240
<v Suzanne>a little bit of redemption there.

01:15:17.440 --> 01:15:17.880
<v Suzanne>And it's

01:15:18.580 --> 01:15:20.360
<v Suzanne>it's, you know, like I said,

01:15:20.420 --> 01:15:22.080
<v Suzanne>we're intelligent, logical people.

01:15:22.430 --> 01:15:24.460
<v Suzanne>So we understood the job.

01:15:25.200 --> 01:15:26.160
<v Suzanne>But I think

01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:28.140
<v Suzanne>it should have been

01:15:28.570 --> 01:15:29.980
<v Suzanne>even just a little bit

01:15:30.440 --> 01:15:32.400
<v Suzanne>showcased like him taking the Vietnam

01:15:32.870 --> 01:15:34.440
<v Suzanne>poster off of his wall

01:15:35.080 --> 01:15:36.360
<v Suzanne>and, you know,

01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:38.440
<v Suzanne>maybe just sitting with his head in his hands

01:15:38.620 --> 01:15:40.460
<v Gary Hill>for a minute. Honey, this isn't

01:15:40.480 --> 01:15:42.500
<v Gary Hill>American History X. This is the wildlife, okay?

01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:43.600
<v Gary Hill>I'll take what I can get.

01:15:44.120 --> 01:15:45.020
<v Suzanne>I don't know.

01:15:46.580 --> 01:15:48.440
<v Suzanne>I'm just saying that, and I do agree

01:15:48.510 --> 01:15:50.020
<v Suzanne>that he is about the only

01:15:50.580 --> 01:15:52.260
<v Suzanne>somewhat redeemable character,

01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:54.320
<v Suzanne>but I just don't

01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:56.480
<v Suzanne>think it was done

01:15:56.700 --> 01:15:58.460
<v Jeffrey X>properly. I agree.

01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:00.340
<v Jeffrey X>His redemption arc was

01:16:00.400 --> 01:16:02.460
<v Jeffrey X>on an arc. It was a straight

01:16:02.820 --> 01:16:04.460
<v Jeffrey X>line, and that bothers

01:16:04.820 --> 01:16:05.880
<v Jeffrey X>me ever so much.

01:16:06.900 --> 01:16:06.960
<v Gary Hill>well

01:16:09.440 --> 01:16:11.240
<v Gary Hill>if you've seen Randy Quaid banging

01:16:11.380 --> 01:16:12.580
<v Gary Hill>another homeless guy you know

01:16:13.160 --> 01:16:15.220
<v Gary Hill>under a boardwalk or something it might make him go a little

01:16:15.400 --> 01:16:16.380
<v Gary Hill>faster then like hey

01:16:17.250 --> 01:16:18.720
<v Gary Hill>shouldn't live a lot this way you know

01:16:19.240 --> 01:16:21.200
<v Gary Hill>but I will say one redeemable quality

01:16:21.200 --> 01:16:22.520
<v Gary Hill>about this film one more

01:16:23.080 --> 01:16:25.200
<v Gary Hill>is that Chris Penn was not too

01:16:25.360 --> 01:16:27.160
<v Gary Hill>attractive a few years later

01:16:27.230 --> 01:16:28.580
<v Gary Hill>after this movie so there's that

01:16:28.830 --> 01:16:30.940
<v Gary Hill>you know that 90s Chris Penn

01:16:31.090 --> 01:16:31.380
<v Gary Hill>was uh

01:16:32.820 --> 01:16:34.480
<v Gary Hill>got a little thicker so there's that

01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:35.940
<v Gary Hill>yeah

01:16:36.420 --> 01:16:37.500
<v Gary Hill>It's like when I tell people

01:16:38.300 --> 01:16:40.000
<v Gary Hill>That Mickey Rourke needs to be attractive men

01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:41.480
<v Gary Hill>And they don't believe me

01:16:41.500 --> 01:16:43.620
<v Gary Hill>I was like well here's this film, this film, and this film

01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:44.760
<v Gary Hill>You know tell me otherwise

01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:48.280
<v Jeffrey X>You know what though

01:16:48.380 --> 01:16:50.680
<v Jeffrey X>If Jim had just stopped in front of the high school

01:16:51.080 --> 01:16:51.480
<v Jeffrey X>And just yelled

01:16:52.380 --> 01:16:53.340
<v Jeffrey X>Shitter's full

01:16:53.740 --> 01:16:55.040
<v Jeffrey X>Then we would have understood

01:16:56.100 --> 01:16:57.420
<v Jeffrey X>Where he was from

01:16:58.260 --> 01:16:59.680
<v Jeffrey X>Through his redemption arc

01:17:00.540 --> 01:17:02.160
<v Jeffrey X>But it just didn't

01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:03.560
<v Jeffrey X>Work for me

01:17:03.580 --> 01:17:05.920
<v Jeffrey X>I was just like oh what

01:17:05.940 --> 01:17:10.080
<v Jeffrey X>You saw a dude doing drugs, and now you're just like, oh, fuck, I don't want to be that.

01:17:10.780 --> 01:17:15.420
<v Jeffrey X>No, dude, I need a little, I need more substance than that.

01:17:16.180 --> 01:17:19.840
<v Jeffrey X>I need more substance for a lot of this film.

01:17:21.200 --> 01:17:26.060
<v Gary Hill>Well, in this film, the shitter is full, because there's a bunch of shit people, so he's got that going for it, you know.

01:17:26.500 --> 01:17:27.400
<v Suzanne>What can this happen?

01:17:28.100 --> 01:17:28.900
<v Suzanne>That's fair.

01:17:32.100 --> 01:17:32.840
<v Gary Hill>Oh, my gosh.

01:17:33.340 --> 01:17:35.620
<v Gary Hill>Suzanne, any final things you want to say about the wildlife?

01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:47.200
<v Suzanne>it's a very badly put together film with highly unlikable characters completely and totally

01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:55.760
<v Suzanne>in stupid situations that will would never happen there is no even going back to my

01:17:56.060 --> 01:18:02.900
<v Suzanne>years in the 80s any situation that could even possibly be realistic it was just

01:18:05.040 --> 01:18:06.580
<v Suzanne>I don't want to say fluff

01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:08.560
<v Suzanne>because I'd be giving fluff a bad name

01:18:08.780 --> 01:18:09.960
<v Suzanne>because everybody needs a little fluff.

01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:12.640
<v Suzanne>No, this was just bad.

01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:17.520
<v Suzanne>Except for Lee Ving.

01:18:18.060 --> 01:18:18.640
<v Suzanne>I'll take Lee.

01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:23.100
<v Jeffrey X>I'll take Lee Ving and Ron Wood

01:18:23.320 --> 01:18:25.340
<v Jeffrey X>dragging a cold turkey into the fridge.

01:18:25.440 --> 01:18:26.320
<v Jeffrey X>That was pretty great.

01:18:28.240 --> 01:18:29.880
<v Gary Hill>Was that a turkey or a ham?

01:18:30.500 --> 01:18:31.800
<v Gary Hill>It looked like a turkey.

01:18:32.440 --> 01:18:34.280
<v Jeffrey X>I could be wrong.

01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:36.400
<v Jeffrey X>I'm willing to be wrong. I don't give a shit.

01:18:37.060 --> 01:18:38.820
<v Jeffrey X>I was just like, fuck, is that Ron Wood?

01:18:38.910 --> 01:18:40.820
<v Jeffrey X>And I was like, oh, that's totally Ron Wood.

01:18:44.320 --> 01:18:47.000
<v Jeffrey X>I will give this movie half a star

01:18:47.090 --> 01:18:48.960
<v Jeffrey X>just because of Hart Brockner's

01:18:49.340 --> 01:18:50.460
<v Jeffrey X>amazing facial hair.

01:18:52.020 --> 01:18:52.460
<v Jeffrey X>Excuse me.

01:18:52.990 --> 01:18:54.660
<v Jeffrey X>But Brub had the

01:18:54.730 --> 01:18:56.240
<v Jeffrey X>Harry Reams mustache going

01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:58.740
<v Jeffrey X>and that was pretty great.

01:18:59.340 --> 01:19:01.140
<v Jeffrey X>He's the best part of this movie.

01:19:01.460 --> 01:19:04.320
<v Jeffrey X>everybody else can suck a fuck.

01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:06.560
<v Jeffrey X>I hate this goddamn movie.

01:19:07.240 --> 01:19:09.100
<v Jeffrey X>Yeah, fucking half a star.

01:19:10.380 --> 01:19:11.880
<v Suzanne>I'm with you on the half a star.

01:19:12.740 --> 01:19:14.200
<v Suzanne>And that's even for me, like I said,

01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:17.400
<v Suzanne>leaving is the reason it has half a star,

01:19:17.460 --> 01:19:19.620
<v Suzanne>and a lot of that is because he called Eric Stoltz a pussy.

01:19:20.780 --> 01:19:21.420
<v Jeffrey X>And that's fair.

01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:24.240
<v Jeffrey X>And leaving is one of the reasons that Clue is a great movie.

01:19:25.260 --> 01:19:26.200
<v Jeffrey X>Oh, yeah, Mr. Body.

01:19:27.200 --> 01:19:27.640
<v Jeffrey X>Fuck, yeah.

01:19:28.020 --> 01:19:30.840
<v Jeffrey X>But also leaving, I mean, fuck, you know.

01:19:32.380 --> 01:19:34.320
<v Jeffrey X>fucking let's have a war

01:19:34.670 --> 01:19:35.760
<v Jeffrey X>fucking fear leaving

01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:38.160
<v Jeffrey X>we know who he is outside

01:19:38.620 --> 01:19:40.060
<v Jeffrey X>of movies

01:19:40.620 --> 01:19:42.140
<v Jeffrey X>which is why we're so impressed

01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:44.060
<v Jeffrey X>but fuck yeah

01:19:44.719 --> 01:19:45.980
<v Jeffrey X>he was great

01:19:46.480 --> 01:19:48.060
<v Jeffrey X>and Hart Buckner's

01:19:48.170 --> 01:19:49.900
<v Jeffrey X>upper lip was great and

01:19:50.180 --> 01:19:51.900
<v Jeffrey X>nothing else in this movie was

01:19:53.780 --> 01:19:56.080
<v Gary Hill>more positive things to say about

01:19:56.550 --> 01:19:57.160
<v Gary Hill>the wildlife

01:19:58.340 --> 01:20:00.040
<v Gary Hill>I get like a one and a half for me

01:20:00.320 --> 01:20:04.800
<v Gary Hill>You know, half a star for Kitten Navidad dancing to the girl can't help it.

01:20:05.240 --> 01:20:06.960
<v Gary Hill>She gets half a star.

01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:13.040
<v Gary Hill>Even with Michael Smith's lackluster, half-hearted redemption gets a half a star.

01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:22.500
<v Gary Hill>And the fact that the soundtrack contains classic rock along with Prince and Bananarama gets a half a star.

01:20:23.040 --> 01:20:26.600
<v Gary Hill>So that's one of the half stars for the wildlife for me.

01:20:27.100 --> 01:20:36.880
<v Gary Hill>Again, a lot of unlikable people, like you guys said, it's hard for you to debate that because at the end of the day, nobody is redeemable in this movie.

01:20:37.480 --> 01:20:38.440
<v Gary Hill>They're just not.

01:20:38.740 --> 01:20:44.120
<v Gary Hill>So you're like, yeah, this is the age when I saw, but there's better stuff out there, you know.

01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:46.560
<v Jeffrey X>And yet they still get redeemed.

01:20:47.040 --> 01:20:48.800
<v Jeffrey X>And I'm angry about that.

01:20:49.940 --> 01:20:54.480
<v Jeffrey X>I'm angry about how Tom and Eileen ended up like, are we okay?

01:20:55.100 --> 01:20:55.280
<v Jeffrey X>Cool.

01:20:55.400 --> 01:20:58.860
<v Jeffrey X>I'm going to pick you up and put you in my car.

01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:01.520
<v Jeffrey X>And Tom and what's-her-face, just like,

01:21:01.980 --> 01:21:03.660
<v Jeffrey X>I'm going to find another place to live.

01:21:03.860 --> 01:21:04.460
<v Jeffrey X>It's cool.

01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:06.280
<v Jeffrey X>Hey, everything's fine.

01:21:06.300 --> 01:21:09.700
<v Suzanne>It doesn't matter that we trashed.

01:21:11.040 --> 01:21:12.920
<v Suzanne>Two apartments and part of a,

01:21:13.400 --> 01:21:15.360
<v Suzanne>Aiden had to have a pool probably cleaned out,

01:21:16.060 --> 01:21:17.340
<v Suzanne>along with hallways and everything.

01:21:17.460 --> 01:21:19.700
<v Suzanne>And sure, nothing's ever going to come of that.

01:21:20.320 --> 01:21:21.480
<v Suzanne>They're not going to get sued.

01:21:22.240 --> 01:21:22.600
<v Jeffrey X>No.

01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:24.820
<v Jeffrey X>Well, dude said they were going to have a lawsuit,

01:21:25.300 --> 01:21:30.720
<v Jeffrey X>But there goes Eric Stolls off to fucking Daniel LaRusso's goddamn motel house.

01:21:31.540 --> 01:21:32.320
<v Jeffrey X>Just no.

01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:34.080
<v Jeffrey X>Stupid.

01:21:35.080 --> 01:21:35.640
<v Gary Hill>Oh, my God.

01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:36.680
<v Suzanne>There's no consequences.

01:21:38.460 --> 01:21:38.820
<v Jeffrey X>Oh, my God.

01:21:39.040 --> 01:21:39.380
<v Jeffrey X>That's it.

01:21:39.860 --> 01:21:40.420
<v Jeffrey X>That is it.

01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:46.200
<v Jeffrey X>There's no consequence to the horrible things that all these assholes did.

01:21:46.660 --> 01:21:52.320
<v Jeffrey X>Also, they're all like fucking 25, 30, pretending to be in high school.

01:21:53.080 --> 01:21:54.640
<v Jeffrey X>Kiss my fucking ass.

01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:57.460
<v Suzanne>I think Elon was the only one

01:21:57.680 --> 01:21:59.260
<v Suzanne>that might have been a teenager

01:22:00.780 --> 01:22:01.820
<v Suzanne>at that time

01:22:01.830 --> 01:22:03.140
<v Suzanne>I think he was

01:22:03.660 --> 01:22:04.540
<v Suzanne>I could be wrong

01:22:04.670 --> 01:22:05.880
<v Suzanne>but everybody else was

01:22:05.990 --> 01:22:06.540
<v Suzanne>yeah you're right

01:22:06.570 --> 01:22:08.440
<v Suzanne>in their 20s, 30s

01:22:09.120 --> 01:22:10.400
<v Suzanne>and I love Jenny Smith

01:22:10.680 --> 01:22:12.300
<v Suzanne>but she did not look like

01:22:12.300 --> 01:22:13.940
<v Suzanne>she was 17, 18 years old

01:22:14.500 --> 01:22:15.940
<v Gary Hill>yeah, that's true

01:22:17.980 --> 01:22:19.680
<v Gary Hill>but yeah that's that

01:22:19.850 --> 01:22:20.780
<v Gary Hill>and we'll be right back

01:22:20.780 --> 01:22:22.040
<v Gary Hill>to close out the show

01:22:28.160 --> 01:22:34.180
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01:22:49.160 --> 01:22:50.380
<v Gary Hill>alright folks that's the end of this one

01:22:51.360 --> 01:22:52.280
<v Gary Hill>not sure

01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:54.360
<v Gary Hill>what we're going to be doing next because

01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:56.740
<v Gary Hill>Suzanne has to have surgery unfortunately

01:22:57.660 --> 01:22:59.300
<v Gary Hill>and Cootie's birthday is coming up

01:22:59.300 --> 01:23:01.040
<v Gary Hill>so you might get to the next thing

01:23:01.140 --> 01:23:02.320
<v Gary Hill>that I'm going to mention right now

01:23:02.900 --> 01:23:04.680
<v Gary Hill>which will be another 80's

01:23:05.660 --> 01:23:06.640
<v Gary Hill>romp of a show

01:23:07.280 --> 01:23:08.120
<v Gary Hill>but dealing with

01:23:09.260 --> 01:23:11.020
<v Gary Hill>addictions and the white folks

01:23:11.020 --> 01:23:12.421
<v Gary Hill>that come along with it

01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:19.140
<v Gary Hill>living straight into the Brat Pack lifestyle.

01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:21.460
<v Gary Hill>We're going to do St. Elmo's Fire

01:23:21.900 --> 01:23:22.920
<v Gary Hill>because I've never seen it.

01:23:23.360 --> 01:23:25.440
<v Gary Hill>And alcoholic white folks

01:23:25.940 --> 01:23:26.980
<v Gary Hill>playing a saxophone.

01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:28.480
<v Jeffrey X>No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:23:28.480 --> 01:23:28.720
<v Jeffrey X>Back up.

01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:31.240
<v Jeffrey X>You've never seen St. Elmo's Fire?

01:23:31.460 --> 01:23:32.540
<v Gary Hill>We had this conversation.

01:23:32.580 --> 01:23:33.680
<v Suzanne>That's what I said.

01:23:34.280 --> 01:23:36.000
<v Suzanne>Gary and I had this not to.

01:23:36.540 --> 01:23:37.160
<v Suzanne>Yes, we did.

01:23:37.570 --> 01:23:38.120
<v Jeffrey X>Oh, my.

01:23:38.620 --> 01:23:38.820
<v Jeffrey X>Okay.

01:23:39.420 --> 01:23:39.920
<v Jeffrey X>Okay, cool.

01:23:40.270 --> 01:23:40.420
<v Jeffrey X>Yay.

01:23:41.160 --> 01:23:47.560
<v Gary Hill>I've watched the music video, and I fully believe a fucking Frank Stallone-looking motherfucker

01:23:48.100 --> 01:23:50.180
<v Gary Hill>could not even get a comatose Demi Moore.

01:23:50.320 --> 01:23:52.320
<v Gary Hill>But, you know, it happens in that video.

01:23:53.340 --> 01:23:55.020
<v Jeffrey X>All games of their own ways.

01:23:55.820 --> 01:23:58.880
<v Gary Hill>And St. Elmo's Fire burning in me as well.

01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:02.060
<v Gary Hill>Like a bad case of VD.

01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:04.840
<v Jeffrey X>Oh, God.

01:24:05.820 --> 01:24:07.800
<v Jeffrey X>St. Elmo's Comedia.

01:24:08.860 --> 01:24:14.320
<v Gary Hill>Or possible herpes, you know, in one scene.

01:24:15.080 --> 01:24:16.840
<v Gary Hill>We're talking about the cocaine-induced

01:24:17.620 --> 01:24:19.180
<v Gary Hill>white folks with problems movie,

01:24:20.220 --> 01:24:21.120
<v Gary Hill>Less Than Zero,

01:24:21.780 --> 01:24:24.140
<v Gary Hill>a film in which James Spader

01:24:24.300 --> 01:24:25.620
<v Gary Hill>literally gets blown by Robert Downey Jr.

01:24:26.020 --> 01:24:27.300
<v Gary Hill>So there's that, you know.

01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:28.640
<v Suzanne>Oh, no, he didn't.

01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:31.860
<v Suzanne>No, James Spader was 10th.

01:24:32.160 --> 01:24:33.280
<v Gary Hill>Just getting in there.

01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:35.340
<v Gary Hill>Well, that's what we're doing next, probably.

01:24:36.020 --> 01:24:37.080
<v Gary Hill>Unless something comes in between.

01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:38.700
<v Jeffrey X>Punks on dope

01:24:39.980 --> 01:24:42.500
<v Jeffrey X>Mom and dad live in Hollywood

01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:47.680
<v Gary Hill>Less than zero

01:24:48.060 --> 01:24:49.060
<v Gary Hill>Insane Elmo's player

01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:51.000
<v Gary Hill>On your probably next

01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:51.720
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01:24:52.740 --> 01:24:53.740
<v Gary Hill>That's the lineup

01:24:54.300 --> 01:24:55.060
<v Gary Hill>That's what we're doing

01:24:56.500 --> 01:24:57.480
<v Gary Hill>All the good endings

01:24:58.120 --> 01:24:59.380
<v Gary Hill>Go head over to the Patreon

01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:00.420
<v Gary Hill>For Legion

01:25:01.080 --> 01:25:03.300
<v Gary Hill>Get some good stuff there

01:25:03.540 --> 01:25:04.701
<v Gary Hill>For two bucks a month

01:25:05.180 --> 01:25:06.260
<v Gary Hill>early releases from

01:25:06.420 --> 01:25:07.640
<v Gary Hill>Cort PsyOps, including

01:25:08.360 --> 01:25:10.560
<v Gary Hill>his pirate radio edits of his show,

01:25:10.940 --> 01:25:12.440
<v Gary Hill>which includes the real music he intended

01:25:12.470 --> 01:25:14.060
<v Gary Hill>to put on the show, and

01:25:14.700 --> 01:25:16.400
<v Gary Hill>early releases, video

01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:18.840
<v Gary Hill>versions of Two Treatment of Commentaries,

01:25:18.980 --> 01:25:20.800
<v Gary Hill>old ones, and the new ones

01:25:20.980 --> 01:25:22.320
<v Gary Hill>are going to be coming, I promise,

01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:24.460
<v Gary Hill>with video on the Patreon.

01:25:26.180 --> 01:25:26.400
<v Gary Hill>Yeah.

01:25:27.220 --> 01:25:28.900
<v Gary Hill>Other stuff. Last Call of Torchies.

01:25:29.440 --> 01:25:30.860
<v Gary Hill>Next week we're scheduled to do a show.

01:25:34.240 --> 01:25:34.680
<v Gary Hill>Supernova

01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:37.260
<v Gary Hill>which I remember being just fucking deplorable

01:25:38.160 --> 01:25:38.400
<v Gary Hill>and uh

01:25:39.180 --> 01:25:40.120
<v Gary Hill>to go with the Patreon

01:25:41.340 --> 01:25:43.080
<v Gary Hill>the Patreon episode we're doing

01:25:43.110 --> 01:25:44.980
<v Gary Hill>Event Horizon so we're redeeming

01:25:45.180 --> 01:25:46.780
<v Gary Hill>Supernova with a good movie

01:25:47.380 --> 01:25:48.840
<v Gary Hill>so there's that

01:25:49.360 --> 01:25:49.680
<v Gary Hill>you know

01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:53.080
<v Jeffrey X>Gary can I talk about my shit

01:25:53.530 --> 01:25:53.960
<v Jeffrey X>real quick?

01:25:54.390 --> 01:25:55.280
<v Gary Hill>yes you can sir

01:25:55.740 --> 01:25:58.600
<v Jeffrey X>I mean I don't want to be an interrupter

01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:00.760
<v Gary Hill>no no this is your shit too brother

01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:01.320
<v Gary Hill>go for it

01:26:02.700 --> 01:26:04.660
<v Jeffrey X>Kiss the Goat has its own

01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:07.500
<v Jeffrey X>and we are coming back in July

01:26:08.460 --> 01:26:08.900
<v Jeffrey X>with

01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:11.640
<v Jeffrey X>whatever the fuck season

01:26:12.260 --> 01:26:14.240
<v Jeffrey X>you know we always play in Kiss the Goat

01:26:14.240 --> 01:26:15.940
<v Jeffrey X>like a radio feeder

01:26:16.540 --> 01:26:17.160
<v Jeffrey X>sort of thing

01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:19.220
<v Jeffrey X>but we are

01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:20.480
<v Jeffrey X>we are

01:26:21.740 --> 01:26:22.820
<v Jeffrey X>trucking across the USA

01:26:23.280 --> 01:26:24.020
<v Jeffrey X>in the next season

01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:27.220
<v Jeffrey X>and the first season should drop

01:26:27.400 --> 01:26:27.880
<v Jeffrey X>in July

01:26:28.619 --> 01:26:30.700
<v Jeffrey X>and I can't remember

01:26:31.280 --> 01:26:32.200
<v Jeffrey X>where we're going

01:26:32.320 --> 01:26:34.420
<v Jeffrey X>Oh, we're going to Louisiana.

01:26:36.140 --> 01:26:37.200
<v Jeffrey X>So, anyway, yeah.

01:26:37.640 --> 01:26:41.200
<v Jeffrey X>Find us on Patreon, and please subscribe to get the newest shit,

01:26:41.420 --> 01:26:44.140
<v Jeffrey X>because we're going to have a whole lot of fun.

01:26:45.340 --> 01:26:49.340
<v Gary Hill>They'll go dancing across the USA.

01:26:54.060 --> 01:26:55.400
<v Gary Hill>Do the whole song for you guys.

01:26:55.480 --> 01:26:56.220
<v Gary Hill>I don't care.

01:26:56.500 --> 01:26:56.840
<v Gary Hill>You know.

01:26:57.460 --> 01:26:58.160
<v Gary Hill>Oh, my gosh.

01:26:58.580 --> 01:27:00.680
<v Gary Hill>But, yeah, just to go to Patreon.

01:27:01.100 --> 01:27:01.780
<v Gary Hill>Go look for that.

01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:04.360
<v Gary Hill>He has all his old episodes on there, too.

01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:09.300
<v Gary Hill>And I'm glad HBK found his smile again, as I'll say about that.

01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:10.360
<v Jeffrey X>God damn it.

01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:12.140
<v Jeffrey X>Don't fucking bring that asshole up.

01:27:13.160 --> 01:27:14.920
<v Gary Hill>But you actually know what that means, okay?

01:27:15.260 --> 01:27:15.560
<v Gary Hill>You know?

01:27:19.200 --> 01:27:19.620
<v Gary Hill>But, yeah.

01:27:20.220 --> 01:27:21.700
<v Gary Hill>This has been a Cinema Beef Podcast.

01:27:22.620 --> 01:27:24.780
<v Gary Hill>Where if you've got beef, we've got the grinder.

01:27:25.420 --> 01:27:26.460
<v Gary Hill>We'll see you all next time.

01:27:26.860 --> 01:27:28.220
<v Suzanne>Don't forget to tip your bartenders.

01:27:28.290 --> 01:27:29.140
<v Suzanne>They put up with your shit.

01:27:58.280 --> 01:27:59.140
<v Suzanne>it.