WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en-GB 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:12.180 Travis Bader: I'm Travis Bader, and this is the Silvercore Podcast. 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:18.000 Silvercore has been providing its members with the skills and knowledge 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.920 necessary to be confident and proficient in the outdoors for over 20 years, and 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:26.760 we make it easier for people to deepen their connection to the natural world. 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:33.060 If you enjoy the positive and educational content we provide, please let others 00:00:33.060 --> 00:00:37.980 know by sharing, commenting and following so that you can join in on 00:00:37.980 --> 00:00:39.600 everything that Silvercore stands for. 00:00:40.500 --> 00:00:43.560 If you'd like to learn more about becoming a member of the 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:48.360 Silvercore Club and community, visit our website at Silvercore.ca 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:56.760 navy Seal turned entrepreneur, founder of Half Face Blades, war Paw 00:00:56.760 --> 00:00:58.860 Wine and Apparel Company, and an. 00:00:58.860 --> 00:01:02.340 Ammunition company starring in Hollywood blockbusters like Logan 00:01:02.340 --> 00:01:06.360 and Transformers, and when he isn't doing all of that, he'll find him in 00:01:06.360 --> 00:01:07.980 the back country hunting and fishing. 00:01:07.980 --> 00:01:11.640 Welcome to the Silvercore podcast, Andrew Arrabito. 00:01:12.180 --> 00:01:13.380 Great to be here, brother. 00:01:13.380 --> 00:01:15.660 I've been looking forward to this one for a while. 00:01:15.660 --> 00:01:21.600 I do research before every single podcast, and I want to know what's gonna bring 00:01:21.600 --> 00:01:26.700 the maximum value to the audience and to my guest and doing research on you. 00:01:26.700 --> 00:01:33.120 I came to the very quick realization that there is no possible way in a 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:36.600 single podcast that will come close to conveying the positive and inspirational 00:01:36.600 --> 00:01:39.780 lessons that give you learned from your life experience thus far. 00:01:39.780 --> 00:01:42.420 So I'll gonna take my best stab at it. 00:01:42.420 --> 00:01:46.260 You got a pretty storied history so far in life. 00:01:47.100 --> 00:01:48.523 Damn excited to see where 00:01:48.523 --> 00:01:48.900 Andrew Arrabito: it goes. 00:01:48.900 --> 00:01:50.100 Uh, good to be here brother. 00:01:50.100 --> 00:01:51.000 Let me know. 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:54.900 Uh, you ask the questions and I'll answer them and I'll probably go on a few, 00:01:54.900 --> 00:01:59.460 uh, sidebars, which I generally do in podcasts and catch myself and come back. 00:01:59.460 --> 00:01:59.760 So, 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.400 Travis Bader: well, I was having a hard time thinking of where 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:03.600 do we even start this thing? 00:02:03.600 --> 00:02:07.140 And I finally came down cuz I wanted, I tried to have things in 00:02:07.140 --> 00:02:10.260 somewhat of an organized fashion because I'm like, you, I'll go on 00:02:10.260 --> 00:02:11.760 sidebars all over the place and yeah. 00:02:11.760 --> 00:02:13.860 It's kind of hard for people to keep up. 00:02:13.860 --> 00:02:18.120 So, uh, I thought I would start with your tattoo, your recent tattoo 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:19.663 you got in your back, the lion. 00:02:19.663 --> 00:02:21.840 Andrew Arrabito: Ah, yeah, that was a painful one. 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:23.340 It's massive. 00:02:23.340 --> 00:02:24.180 Yeah. 00:02:24.180 --> 00:02:27.420 And you know, I kept my back open kind of specifically for getting that 00:02:27.420 --> 00:02:28.860 tattoo and I wanted to for a long time. 00:02:28.860 --> 00:02:29.340 Mm-hmm. 00:02:29.340 --> 00:02:32.460 But, uh, you know how painful they are and once you start, you kind of 00:02:32.460 --> 00:02:35.220 like, oh man, like, why'd I start this? 00:02:35.220 --> 00:02:36.480 This is horrible, this pain. 00:02:36.480 --> 00:02:39.780 But, uh, I got, uh, the, I'm gonna. 00:02:39.780 --> 00:02:43.860 Go back in on the 27th, 28th of this month and do another, you know, seven 00:02:43.860 --> 00:02:48.360 or eight hours, just fine tuning and making it darker and putting 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:49.380 myself through a little more misery. 00:02:49.380 --> 00:02:53.640 Travis Bader: Well, there's some special significance that you've been very public 00:02:53.640 --> 00:02:57.420 about on that tattoo, which is why I'm figured this is a place to start it, 00:02:57.420 --> 00:02:59.160 otherwise I probably wouldn't bring it up. 00:02:59.160 --> 00:03:03.780 But, uh, that was, uh, you come from a family with an artistic background and 00:03:03.780 --> 00:03:07.320 that was a, if I'm not mistaken, the. 00:03:08.160 --> 00:03:11.160 Derived from a drawing and a painting that, uh, your father did? 00:03:11.160 --> 00:03:11.863 Yeah. 00:03:11.863 --> 00:03:12.360 Andrew Arrabito: Yeah. 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:18.180 We've had it in my home for, I mean, since actually I'm not, you know, when 00:03:18.180 --> 00:03:20.640 I was seven, I'm trying to remember if it was on a house then, or if somebody 00:03:20.640 --> 00:03:24.960 else had it and after my father died, it may have been gifted back to my family. 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:26.460 Mm, I would assume so. 00:03:26.460 --> 00:03:29.220 Cause a lot of the early on paintings he did, you know, he sold 00:03:29.220 --> 00:03:32.880 for minor amounts or probably gave to friends here and there, but, 00:03:32.880 --> 00:03:34.860 uh, it probably was gifted back. 00:03:34.860 --> 00:03:39.300 So it's Ben Andrew's my home and my mom's home in Northern California for a long 00:03:39.300 --> 00:03:40.680 time and it's a pretty big painting. 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:41.040 It's probably. 00:03:42.480 --> 00:03:46.140 You know, close to three feet wide, you know, and three and a half 00:03:46.140 --> 00:03:48.360 to four feet tall in my house. 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:50.400 And it's just a big, big lion's head. 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:54.360 It's a really beautiful painting and I've always, you know, grew up 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:58.860 looking at it and I wanted to kind of give that, that honor back and 00:03:58.860 --> 00:04:00.900 that owed back and to my father. 00:04:01.860 --> 00:04:06.840 Um, and kind of the significance of what Allian does mean, um, as well. 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:09.883 Travis Bader: Did it take you a while to find the right artist to draw this one? 00:04:09.883 --> 00:04:14.040 Andrew Arrabito: Yeah, I'd been looking kind of all over and some, you know, 00:04:14.040 --> 00:04:18.060 some artists were just good at different things and I had, uh, chosen a few 00:04:18.060 --> 00:04:21.480 different artists and just trying to line up the timing didn't work and I 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:25.680 was like, eh, generally the artists I found were in a different state, so it 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:28.320 was about me trying to take the time to go fly somewhere and get it done. 00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:30.960 And I was really wanting to find somebody here in San Diego so I could just 00:04:30.960 --> 00:04:32.700 really put those hours and that time in. 00:04:32.700 --> 00:04:36.300 So I found a guy actually really interesting with him. 00:04:36.300 --> 00:04:37.860 He lived in multiple countries. 00:04:38.820 --> 00:04:42.540 Um, From Germany to, I don't know, Turkey. 00:04:42.540 --> 00:04:44.280 And, and, uh, he was living here. 00:04:44.280 --> 00:04:48.780 I contacted him and we lined it up and I went in and I had to cancel one day and 00:04:48.780 --> 00:04:50.340 the lady actually canceled all the days. 00:04:50.340 --> 00:04:51.720 And so I was like, disappointed. 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:55.080 And I contacted another guy cause I was like, oh, you know, I, I had prepped, I 00:04:55.080 --> 00:04:59.160 like mentally prepped to have these, you know, 20 plus hours on my backup pain. 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.940 And once he mentally prepped and I got in there and like ordered burritos went in. 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:06.780 You know, I took, you know, one of the, the copies of the image to 00:05:06.780 --> 00:05:09.780 the guy, and he is like, uh, and somebody else was in the, in the 00:05:09.780 --> 00:05:11.280 tattoo shop, like, no, it's my turn. 00:05:11.280 --> 00:05:13.200 I was like, oh, no, dude, it's my turn. 00:05:13.200 --> 00:05:16.620 And they're like, oh, oh, we're sorry we canceled your days. 00:05:16.620 --> 00:05:19.260 And I was like, okay, I'm gonna find someone else. 00:05:19.260 --> 00:05:20.160 You don't get to do this. 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:22.740 You know, and, and a piece like that, you know, guys are really 00:05:22.740 --> 00:05:25.680 good artists, really look forward to doing pieces like that mm-hmm. 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.920 For people and really, um, show expressing. 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:30.180 They're the, they're the artists, right. 00:05:30.180 --> 00:05:32.940 Expressing what they can do and, and showing people what they can do and how 00:05:32.940 --> 00:05:34.680 good of, um, a tattooing they can do. 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:36.900 So, uh, I was like, all right. 00:05:36.900 --> 00:05:41.520 And I, I had actually ordered like food for the guy too, like to get dropped 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:45.060 off and I laughed before the food got there, so he had hit me up, you 00:05:45.060 --> 00:05:47.460 know, a few hours later he was like, there's all this food here, you know? 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.340 Um, and I was like, just eat it and give it away to the guys, and 00:05:50.340 --> 00:05:51.600 yeah, I'm gonna find somebody else. 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:52.260 And he. 00:05:52.260 --> 00:05:53.100 Oh man. 00:05:53.100 --> 00:05:55.260 So he kept hitting me up and he was like, Hey. 00:05:55.260 --> 00:05:56.040 And he moved. 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:56.512 Okay. 00:05:56.512 --> 00:05:59.520 He used to Colorado and I was like, I'll find somebody else. 00:05:59.520 --> 00:06:01.860 And he kept hitting me up and he was like, man, I'd really like to do it. 00:06:01.860 --> 00:06:05.520 I'm coming back to town to San Diego for a month, you know, can, can I do it? 00:06:05.520 --> 00:06:07.080 And I was like, yeah, let's do it, man. 00:06:07.940 --> 00:06:08.940 Wow. 00:06:08.940 --> 00:06:12.480 Met up with him and we did five hours one day, seven hours the next 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:14.760 day, and then four more days late, five hour, four more days later. 00:06:14.760 --> 00:06:15.286 Five hours, 00:06:15.286 --> 00:06:16.140 Travis Bader: man. 00:06:16.140 --> 00:06:17.880 And you just got a bit of touch up now? 00:06:17.880 --> 00:06:18.660 Left hour. 00:06:18.660 --> 00:06:19.063 Yeah. 00:06:19.063 --> 00:06:19.980 Andrew Arrabito: It's, you know, it's all done. 00:06:19.980 --> 00:06:21.600 I'm gonna go, I'm, I'm gonna do more than that. 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.780 I'm gonna, I like, I want it really dark and I want, you know, that shading, so 00:06:24.780 --> 00:06:30.180 I'll probably do, you know, I'd like to do an hour, that'd be really awesome, 00:06:30.180 --> 00:06:34.666 but I probably do four or five, six hours just getting, getting after it. 00:06:34.666 --> 00:06:42.300 Travis Bader: So I'm just trying to get a, uh, a grasp on, What builds a fire within 00:06:42.300 --> 00:06:47.580 an in, within an individual to achieve a fraction of the things that you've been 00:06:47.580 --> 00:06:49.260 able to achieve in your life so far. 00:06:49.260 --> 00:06:54.060 And I, I think after doing my research, I have a bit of an idea 00:06:54.060 --> 00:06:55.440 of some of the driving factors. 00:06:56.640 --> 00:07:01.980 Um, I figured since you've openly talked about it in the past about, uh, losing 00:07:01.980 --> 00:07:06.660 your father and your brothers on a plane crash when you're, was it seven years old? 00:07:06.660 --> 00:07:07.380 Yeah. 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.443 And they were heading to Alaska. 00:07:11.443 --> 00:07:14.460 Andrew Arrabito: Yeah, they were coming back, but they had, my dad had gone 00:07:14.460 --> 00:07:18.960 up there a few times interviewing, uh, these, these people that lived in this 00:07:18.960 --> 00:07:21.000 little village and why they lived longer. 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:22.920 My dad was really one into the outdoors. 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:27.480 He was an artist, uh, he was a minister, um, real outdoors family. 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.220 We were always, you know, camping, backpacking. 00:07:29.220 --> 00:07:31.680 And my older brothers loved the outdoors, obviously as well. 00:07:32.220 --> 00:07:35.400 And, uh, he want them to just see how incredible Alaska was. 00:07:35.400 --> 00:07:39.120 So on that second or third, fourth trip, he had taken them up there. 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:42.480 So they, they'd run around the woods and do some fishing as well as while he 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:43.680 was out there interviewing these people 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.380 Travis Bader: as a minister. 00:07:46.380 --> 00:07:51.180 I guess it was a faith played a big part of your, your upbringing. 00:07:51.180 --> 00:07:51.540 Yeah. 00:07:51.540 --> 00:07:51.900 Yeah. 00:07:51.900 --> 00:07:52.620 Does it still? 00:07:52.620 --> 00:07:57.060 Andrew Arrabito: Yeah, I mean, uh, I mean, I don't go to church as, as much 00:07:57.060 --> 00:08:00.420 as my mom would like me to, but, uh, I still, uh, I'm still a believer. 00:08:01.020 --> 00:08:01.560 Fair enough. 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:02.340 Absolutely. 00:08:02.340 --> 00:08:10.320 I think the amount of times I've, you know, I've been saved overseas or, um, You 00:08:10.320 --> 00:08:13.800 know, and buddies been saved and, I don't know, just all the ups and downs in life. 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:18.180 I think, um, I've got a good base of, of faith and, and value and 00:08:19.080 --> 00:08:23.880 good morals and, uh, good people and how I want to run my life. 00:08:23.880 --> 00:08:27.840 Travis Bader: I find that's a common thread in people who are high achievers. 00:08:27.840 --> 00:08:31.440 They seem to have a strong grounding and whatever their background of faith 00:08:31.440 --> 00:08:36.240 might be, but they, uh, they have some sort of a guiding light within them 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:39.900 that they can, uh, look towards, I guess when things get tougher to kind 00:08:39.900 --> 00:08:41.203 of keep 'em on this, on a straight and 00:08:41.203 --> 00:08:41.880 Andrew Arrabito: narrow on the path. 00:08:41.880 --> 00:08:44.880 Well, I mean, yeah, along with, with that, I know it's like kind of 00:08:44.880 --> 00:08:49.020 living for others as well, so you, you know, you can better yourself 00:08:49.020 --> 00:08:51.180 and, and your immediate surroundings. 00:08:51.180 --> 00:08:54.540 And that's a big goal is, is, uh, people that you love and 00:08:54.540 --> 00:08:56.580 people, uh, you care about a lot. 00:08:56.580 --> 00:08:59.700 You wanna support them and see them do well and see them prosper and 00:08:59.700 --> 00:09:02.640 career development and see them loved and know they're cared for 00:09:02.640 --> 00:09:05.580 and, Um, and not look inward as much. 00:09:05.580 --> 00:09:07.620 And obviously in the long run, that helps you out too. 00:09:07.620 --> 00:09:11.760 Travis Bader: Yeah, I find that to be a bit of a, a life hack, honestly, the more 00:09:11.760 --> 00:09:15.600 you're able to be of service to others, the more you're surrounding yourself 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:22.200 with positive people and the more that you'll see residual, um, benefits from 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:23.760 that, either directly or indirectly. 00:09:23.760 --> 00:09:24.660 Sure. Absolutely. 00:09:24.660 --> 00:09:27.540 So you were a youngster. 00:09:27.540 --> 00:09:31.320 You get a book, workout book on Navy Seals and Yeah. 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:32.160 How old were you when that happened? 00:09:32.160 --> 00:09:33.060 Oh Andrew Arrabito: man. 00:09:33.060 --> 00:09:36.600 Probably somewhere between sixth and seventh grade timeframe. 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:40.620 My mom's cousin, Ethan, uh, I don't know what drove him to do it. 00:09:40.620 --> 00:09:42.420 I don't know why he got that book. 00:09:42.420 --> 00:09:44.340 I, I think it was just interesting to him too. 00:09:44.340 --> 00:09:47.280 And, uh, he was like, oh, Andy would enjoy. 00:09:47.280 --> 00:09:52.380 Travis Bader: So I guess seventh grade were you, uh, you're going 00:09:52.380 --> 00:09:54.223 to, uh, Catholic school at the time? 00:09:54.223 --> 00:09:56.880 Andrew Arrabito: It wasn't, it was a Christian, uh, Christian school. 00:09:56.880 --> 00:10:00.646 Yeah, it was a Christian, small Christian private school up in Northern California. 00:10:00.646 --> 00:10:03.900 Travis Bader: And was this one that, uh, you were able to see through 00:10:03.900 --> 00:10:05.400 the completion or did you Uh, 00:10:05.400 --> 00:10:08.940 Andrew Arrabito: I didn't get kicked out of element of any elementary 00:10:08.940 --> 00:10:10.726 schools, just high schools. 00:10:10.726 --> 00:10:15.960 Travis Bader: I'm cur I got kicked out of a couple high schools myself and a couple 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:19.783 of them were, uh, what Christian Brothers of Ireland high schools I went to. 00:10:19.783 --> 00:10:22.620 Andrew Arrabito: Yeah, man, those, there was some. 00:10:22.620 --> 00:10:25.980 You know, they think some of those schools were just a bit too strict for me. 00:10:25.980 --> 00:10:28.320 I wasn't, you know, I wasn't ever a bad kid. 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:33.000 Just, you know, sneaking out was a lot of fun and, uh, BB gun wars, you know, 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.946 you're getting a few fist fights here and there and I guess, uh, they don't like 00:10:36.946 --> 00:10:37.920 Travis Bader: that. Yeah. 00:10:37.920 --> 00:10:43.440 I think, uh, first one was because it wasn't based on what I did, it was 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:47.803 based on the fact that, uh, apparently I had an us against them mentality 00:10:47.803 --> 00:10:49.006 Andrew Arrabito: and, uh, didn't like authority 00:10:49.006 --> 00:10:51.360 Travis Bader: perhaps. 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:56.580 And, uh, I learned how to pick locks when I was in grade four, and That's awesome. 00:10:56.580 --> 00:10:59.760 So when I just looked at locks as a puzzle. 00:10:59.760 --> 00:11:02.340 Right. And same with, uh, it's challenging. 00:11:02.340 --> 00:11:03.720 It is, it's a challenge, right. 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.360 And it's, it's not that I want to do something nefarious 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:08.100 once I'm in there, it's Right. 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:09.480 It's just, it's a puzzle. 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:09.926 Right. 00:11:09.926 --> 00:11:10.440 Andrew Arrabito: New block, Travis Bader: new puzzle. 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.620 And, um, same with computers. 00:11:13.620 --> 00:11:15.780 I was interested in that and I learned how to get into the 00:11:15.780 --> 00:11:17.520 back end of their, their system. 00:11:17.520 --> 00:11:25.860 And anyways, I made a master key to the school and, um, I and I sold a 00:11:25.860 --> 00:11:30.120 couple copies of it to other people who wanted to be able to get into wherever. 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:30.840 I don't know. 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:30.990 Sure. 00:11:30.990 --> 00:11:33.120 I don't think anyone really did anything nefarious. 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:33.900 Yeah. 00:11:33.900 --> 00:11:37.140 And, um, I changed some grades never for myself, but for other people. 00:11:37.140 --> 00:11:40.243 And then, um, was very kind of you, very kind of me, very 00:11:40.243 --> 00:11:41.798 Andrew Arrabito: magnanimous think a good Samaritan. 00:11:41.798 --> 00:11:41.820 Travis Bader: Totally. 00:11:41.820 --> 00:11:46.500 I mean, really they should be, I should be rewarded for such efforts. 00:11:46.500 --> 00:11:47.280 That's what I'm thinking. 00:11:47.280 --> 00:11:52.860 And, um, well, up until I locked them out of their own system and they had to 00:11:52.860 --> 00:11:57.660 back everything up off of tape drives or, sorry, take it back off of tape drives and 00:11:57.660 --> 00:12:03.300 make up for several months worth of grades that, uh, they said none of that would've 00:12:03.300 --> 00:12:05.580 really mattered if it wasn't for my in. 00:12:05.580 --> 00:12:09.120 Like, I, they wanted to know why I sold the keys to, and I wouldn't tell 'em. 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:09.943 And uh, and so that's even. 00:12:09.943 --> 00:12:11.760 Andrew Arrabito: Right. 00:12:11.760 --> 00:12:14.700 So, and then you, you show your, your loyalty very young. 00:12:14.700 --> 00:12:18.000 Travis Bader: Well, they said you've got an US against EM mentality. 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:22.620 And since the brothers lived upstairs and they felt that their 00:12:22.620 --> 00:12:25.793 security was threatened and all the rest, and anyways, so, uh, 00:12:25.793 --> 00:12:27.720 Andrew Arrabito: they've gotten suspended for not giving up names as, as well. 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.160 Yeah, yeah. 00:12:29.160 --> 00:12:29.640 Oh 00:12:29.640 --> 00:12:31.260 Travis Bader: yeah. 00:12:31.260 --> 00:12:36.953 I, um, I was looking at a number of things that kind of happened in your childhood. 00:12:36.953 --> 00:12:36.958 Yeah. 00:12:36.958 --> 00:12:40.560 I was, you know, there's a couple of similarities all up until you go off 00:12:40.560 --> 00:12:45.600 into deciding that you want to be a Navy seal, which is, um, a little 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.480 different path in myself and most people. 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:53.760 Uh, what was, what was sort of driving you there? 00:12:53.760 --> 00:12:57.180 Like when I'm looking at the difficulties and troubles that 00:12:57.180 --> 00:12:59.940 you must have been encountering as a youngster, both with the. 00:13:00.780 --> 00:13:05.880 Loss of your family members as well as, um, perhaps a little bit of oppositional 00:13:05.880 --> 00:13:10.260 defiance sort of, uh, mentality that seems to come out in the research I've done. 00:13:10.260 --> 00:13:13.140 I don't know if anybody has ever accused you of having adhd, 00:13:13.140 --> 00:13:15.060 but, uh Oh yeah, absolutely. 00:13:15.060 --> 00:13:20.100 When, when you talk about, uh, the artistic gene in your family, 00:13:20.100 --> 00:13:23.700 uh, being able to put pen to paper and your penmanship looks 00:13:23.700 --> 00:13:25.320 like you can barely read it. 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:30.300 Like there's a lot of similarities in here that, that I can see that 00:13:30.300 --> 00:13:34.500 perhaps makes a person very well suited in a sort of contrary sort 00:13:34.500 --> 00:13:37.200 of way to the military environment. 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:41.578 Like why would somebody who's sort of oppositional defiant a h 00:13:41.578 --> 00:13:46.380 d go into a system of very strict, regimented structure and thrive? 00:13:46.380 --> 00:13:46.860 Yeah. 00:13:46.860 --> 00:13:50.100 And that, that was sort of an interesting piece for me on all of this. 00:13:50.100 --> 00:13:50.983 Do you have thoughts on 00:13:50.983 --> 00:13:51.180 Andrew Arrabito: that? 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.720 Um, I mean, I think that the challenge side of it, obviously there's 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.120 that, that you, you have right? 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:57.780 Challenging yourself. 00:13:58.980 --> 00:14:05.820 Um, being able to do what special operations do obviously requires, um, a 00:14:05.820 --> 00:14:07.860 lot to get there, which is a challenge. 00:14:07.860 --> 00:14:09.720 And then it's also a lot of fun. 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:10.140 Mm-hmm. 00:14:10.140 --> 00:14:13.440 So I was like, well, I don't mind somebody telling me what 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:15.480 to do if it's for a reason. 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:21.060 And once I do that and I accomplish what they're demanding of me or asking of me 00:14:21.060 --> 00:14:24.960 to do, I can hit certain qualification levels and become better and better, 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:26.880 better at some, at a goal, at a job. 00:14:26.880 --> 00:14:30.480 And being, having that end goal, being a protector, having that end goal 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:32.160 going in and taking out bad dudes. 00:14:32.160 --> 00:14:37.260 And the end goal also being with a really good brotherhood, um, is amazing. 00:14:37.260 --> 00:14:38.400 Did you have that? 00:14:38.400 --> 00:14:39.300 I knew Travis Bader: there was an end goal. 00:14:39.300 --> 00:14:41.340 Did you have that feeling of brotherhood grow? 00:14:41.340 --> 00:14:43.380 Andrew Arrabito: Uh, yeah. 00:14:43.380 --> 00:14:46.440 You know, my, my older brother's best friend, Steve Hamilton, 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:47.520 really incredible dude. 00:14:47.520 --> 00:14:49.860 He became a youth pastor and he's a pastor now. 00:14:49.860 --> 00:14:51.480 Um, he, you know, became one of my older brothers. 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:55.200 There was another guy, Scott Davis, who had, um, lived close to us, older 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.760 fella, and he loved a rock climb. 00:14:56.760 --> 00:15:00.300 And, uh, he was an old sea and diver in Abilene, diver in Mendocino, 00:15:00.300 --> 00:15:01.680 which is a tough, tough dude. 00:15:01.680 --> 00:15:05.100 And, um, did tree working and he kind of looked out for me and I used to 00:15:05.100 --> 00:15:07.860 rock climb with him growing up after my brothers died all over the United States. 00:15:07.860 --> 00:15:10.920 And I had a lot of really good. 00:15:10.920 --> 00:15:14.220 Uh, older buddies that, that looked out for me. 00:15:14.220 --> 00:15:15.286 Mm. You know, 00:15:15.286 --> 00:15:16.740 Travis Bader: you still climbing, 00:15:16.740 --> 00:15:19.680 Andrew Arrabito: you know, not, not very much. 00:15:19.680 --> 00:15:22.800 In a while I climbed a bit when I was in the SEAL teams and now Joshua Tree 00:15:22.800 --> 00:15:25.260 and it helped start a, another league climbing school on the west coast 00:15:25.260 --> 00:15:30.780 here for guys that just with the right gear one, um, doing rock type stuff. 00:15:30.780 --> 00:15:33.780 And a lot of it was urban climbing and oil platform takeover climbing. 00:15:33.780 --> 00:15:37.380 Travis Bader: If you didn't decide to go the the military route, you 00:15:37.380 --> 00:15:39.060 didn't decide to go into seals. 00:15:39.060 --> 00:15:40.980 Uh, what do you think? 00:15:40.980 --> 00:15:43.020 Where was your life trajectory prior to that? 00:15:43.020 --> 00:15:49.260 Andrew Arrabito: Um, I probably wouldn't have, uh, I grew up skateboarding, BMXing. 00:15:49.260 --> 00:15:51.660 I probably would've continued down the route of skateboarding 00:15:51.660 --> 00:15:52.980 and tried to go pro. 00:15:52.980 --> 00:15:53.880 Yeah. 00:15:53.880 --> 00:15:54.660 At some point. 00:15:54.660 --> 00:15:55.620 Yeah. 00:15:55.620 --> 00:16:00.480 I mean, yeah, I think that probably would've been, I was good. 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:01.320 Good at skateboarding. 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:05.580 Travis Bader: It's kind of neat that whatever it is that you're looking at, 00:16:05.580 --> 00:16:07.260 you're looking at pro level anyways. 00:16:07.260 --> 00:16:10.140 Like that's in your sights for a lot of people that never even 00:16:10.140 --> 00:16:11.323 crosses their mind as being 00:16:11.323 --> 00:16:13.260 Andrew Arrabito: something that it's gotta be, you know, you're gonna 00:16:13.260 --> 00:16:16.980 be good at something, you gotta be better at it than other people. 00:16:16.980 --> 00:16:17.940 And, and why not? 00:16:17.940 --> 00:16:19.140 Like, be the best at something, 00:16:19.140 --> 00:16:23.460 Travis Bader: you know, I was in Army Cadets as a youngster and you know, 00:16:23.460 --> 00:16:28.920 ADHD goofing around, you'd spend your whole summers off at a, uh, at a, um, 00:16:28.920 --> 00:16:33.480 an old base doing kid Army Cade stuff. 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.420 And I remember a, uh, a captain came up to me once and he says, look 00:16:36.420 --> 00:16:37.740 at, you're, you're coming up here. 00:16:37.740 --> 00:16:40.320 You're spending, you get off school, you spend two months up 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:41.340 here and then you go back to school. 00:16:41.340 --> 00:16:43.020 You basically don't have a, have a break. 00:16:43.020 --> 00:16:46.680 Why would you come up here to goof around and not to your best or something? 00:16:46.680 --> 00:16:48.960 Right? 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:51.333 And you know, everyone says, do your best, take it seriously. 00:16:51.333 --> 00:16:51.339 Right? 00:16:51.339 --> 00:16:53.266 Andrew Arrabito: But if you're forced to, that's a little different 00:16:53.266 --> 00:16:53.940 Travis Bader: story, you know? 00:16:53.940 --> 00:16:55.320 Right. And I'm like, okay, good point. 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:59.040 He said, so wouldn't it suck if you went, threw this whole thing and fail. 00:16:59.040 --> 00:17:00.900 And then you just wasted your entire summer. 00:17:00.900 --> 00:17:01.920 I'm like, yeah, it totally suck. 00:17:01.920 --> 00:17:04.980 So if you're not gonna fail, why not be the best? 00:17:04.980 --> 00:17:06.960 I thought, huh? 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:07.843 I don't wanna get as much 00:17:07.843 --> 00:17:08.626 Andrew Arrabito: out of it as possible. 00:17:08.626 --> 00:17:09.300 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:17:09.300 --> 00:17:11.940 And for whatever reason that clicked with me, despite it being the same thing 00:17:11.940 --> 00:17:17.460 that everyone tends to say, um, what was, what was seal tr uh, I mean, everyone 00:17:17.460 --> 00:17:20.940 talks about selection, even though that's just like the very first part of things. 00:17:20.940 --> 00:17:23.700 I, I've heard you refer to that as enjoyable. 00:17:24.600 --> 00:17:27.960 Andrew Arrabito: I mean, it's, it's like misery loves company, right? 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:31.920 So you meet such incredible, uh, guys going through the same training 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:34.860 and you build these friendships and it's like, I'm not gonna quit. 00:17:34.860 --> 00:17:35.640 You're gonna quit. 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:37.500 And it's like competition, you know what I mean? 00:17:37.500 --> 00:17:40.920 And yeah, not is it competition when you're both just so miserable and you're 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:43.200 just like, like, I'm not quitting. 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:43.980 You're not quit. 00:17:43.980 --> 00:17:45.780 Like, all right dude, let's, let's roll. 00:17:45.780 --> 00:17:46.980 You know what I mean? 00:17:46.980 --> 00:17:48.060 It's, it's, it's rad. 00:17:48.060 --> 00:17:49.666 It's a lot of fun training. 00:17:49.666 --> 00:17:52.980 Travis Bader: What's the attrition lake on attrition rate on that? 00:17:52.980 --> 00:17:55.800 Andrew Arrabito: Um, you know, it varies per class and 00:17:55.800 --> 00:17:56.760 depends kind of a little bit. 00:17:56.760 --> 00:18:00.420 Summer, winter class, winter classes, they use the cold more just crushes people. 00:18:00.420 --> 00:18:02.400 And during the summer class they, you know, physical 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.680 beat downs is, is a bit more. 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:09.300 And, um, you know, there's a class recently and it also 00:18:09.300 --> 00:18:10.440 depends the time of war. 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:12.840 And if there's a lot going on, they really need team guys. 00:18:12.840 --> 00:18:14.760 The classes are a lot bigger, so you have, mm-hmm. 00:18:14.760 --> 00:18:19.838 I think our class started, um, the class 2 46 and started like a hundred eighty five, 00:18:19.838 --> 00:18:23.340 a hundred eighty six, and there's like 22 original guys that graduate that class. 00:18:23.340 --> 00:18:24.540 Wow. 00:18:24.540 --> 00:18:27.480 And, uh, there's some, there's a recent class, I'm not sure how many 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:29.700 guys started, but thinking there was like eight guys after hell week. 00:18:30.360 --> 00:18:31.020 Wow. 00:18:31.020 --> 00:18:35.580 So not that, you know, they could have been a little smaller class, could have 00:18:35.580 --> 00:18:38.820 just, you know, some of the instructors just a little bit more mean or miserable 00:18:38.820 --> 00:18:40.860 or, you know, it's hard to tell. 00:18:40.860 --> 00:18:44.640 Maybe they just didn't get the quality of guys that, my belief 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.300 also is the last 10 years, the quality of guys coming through is. 00:18:48.300 --> 00:18:50.520 Yeah. You know, um, or tourists especially. 00:18:51.540 --> 00:18:51.660 Yeah. 00:18:51.660 --> 00:18:55.800 Guys who, it became such a cool guy job with every movie and every book 00:18:55.800 --> 00:18:57.360 that every kid wanted to go do it. 00:18:57.360 --> 00:19:00.900 And, and that's a great thing for, um, you know, the purpose of 00:19:00.900 --> 00:19:02.580 getting more people to training. 00:19:02.580 --> 00:19:08.280 But with that, they got, you know, they had to get more, I 00:19:08.280 --> 00:19:12.600 wouldn't say streamlined, but, um, more structured at training. 00:19:12.600 --> 00:19:15.360 And so it was like, there was somebody who wrote a book like How to Beat 00:19:15.360 --> 00:19:16.980 Buds and stupid stuff like that. 00:19:16.980 --> 00:19:19.920 And they explained like on Fridays, they can only beat you till, you know, 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:24.540 6:00 PM and they have to do paperwork if they, the class screws up more and they 00:19:24.540 --> 00:19:26.640 wanna beat you in the surfer longer. 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.300 And so with this information, it's hard to break someone's, uh, break 00:19:30.300 --> 00:19:34.560 someone's mind to the point where one, their only option is not to quit. 00:19:34.560 --> 00:19:38.220 If you already know that in three hours, they can't, they can't do 00:19:38.220 --> 00:19:39.180 anything more after three hours. 00:19:39.180 --> 00:19:40.260 Like you just hold. 00:19:40.260 --> 00:19:43.800 You know, instead of getting to the point where it's like, I'm just not 00:19:43.800 --> 00:19:47.940 gonna quit, um, they just hold out for those three hours, you know? 00:19:47.940 --> 00:19:51.360 So I think the quality of guys went down for a while. 00:19:52.080 --> 00:19:55.080 Now that there's not a lot going on, operational tempo is down. 00:19:56.100 --> 00:20:02.160 Um, well, I think the more recent couple years there probably is a, a push to get 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.200 more guys, uh, with what the future holds. 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:08.040 But there was a timeframe where it was, um, you know, a bit of a timeframe where 00:20:08.040 --> 00:20:12.120 they were like, Hey, you know, guys aren't going a lot, a ton of missions. 00:20:12.120 --> 00:20:13.320 We don't need a ton of seals. 00:20:13.320 --> 00:20:19.620 So they were willing to kind of not push classes, maybe not push classes as hard. 00:20:19.620 --> 00:20:23.460 So more guys went through and then now it's like, Hey, you know, 00:20:23.460 --> 00:20:25.980 let, we can push really hard and only the best guys get through. 00:20:25.980 --> 00:20:26.220 Maybe. 00:20:26.220 --> 00:20:29.220 I think there's something to do in there, you know, it's not strict 00:20:29.220 --> 00:20:30.420 like that, like I said, but. 00:20:30.420 --> 00:20:34.380 Travis Bader: I'm wondering about the mindset when you went in, did you 00:20:34.380 --> 00:20:37.080 know that you're gonna come out, like in the gut, you're just like, yeah, 00:20:37.080 --> 00:20:38.520 there, there's no way I'm failing. 00:20:38.520 --> 00:20:40.680 And were you able to look around and identify other people? 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:43.080 You're like, yeah, that, that person's not making it. 00:20:43.080 --> 00:20:43.479 I can tell. 00:20:43.479 --> 00:20:44.940 Andrew Arrabito: Uh, a few. 00:20:44.940 --> 00:20:48.480 Not everybody, you know, there's definitely a few guys that, uh, you meet. 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:51.600 They, they're just, they're there for the right reasons and they joined for reasons. 00:20:51.600 --> 00:20:54.780 Like, I didn't know any Navy Seals before, you know, I've watched one 00:20:54.780 --> 00:20:58.860 or two, you know, you know, I've read some old books and stuff like that. 00:20:58.860 --> 00:21:06.180 But, um, you know, I, I didn't look at it like, like a pass or fail kind of thing. 00:21:06.180 --> 00:21:07.620 I looked at it like, it was just training. 00:21:07.620 --> 00:21:10.560 Like you ha you had to do it to become here, you know, to get here, 00:21:10.560 --> 00:21:11.640 you had to go through all this stuff. 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:12.060 You had to do it. 00:21:12.060 --> 00:21:14.700 It was told you had to put out, you had, you just had to do it. 00:21:14.700 --> 00:21:16.380 And that's kind of a mentality. 00:21:16.380 --> 00:21:17.580 I know a lot of the guys had. 00:21:17.580 --> 00:21:18.960 It wasn't like a quitting. 00:21:19.500 --> 00:21:20.520 I don't know. 00:21:20.520 --> 00:21:22.920 I, it's kind of, people say quitting wasn't an option, 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:23.880 but that's really what it was. 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:25.500 It was, you just gotta do it. 00:21:25.500 --> 00:21:30.120 And luckily, you know, in high school I ran all the time and I, you know, 00:21:30.120 --> 00:21:33.780 was in cold water all the time and was very outdoorsman all the time. 00:21:33.780 --> 00:21:36.300 And I was lean, you know, and, um, strong. 00:21:36.300 --> 00:21:41.460 And I think, you know, if you go into training more physically fit, 00:21:41.460 --> 00:21:44.220 your body doesn't break down as faster and your body heals faster. 00:21:44.220 --> 00:21:44.520 Right. 00:21:44.520 --> 00:21:47.220 So in training a lot of it is just, they break you down so physically 00:21:47.760 --> 00:21:49.440 that all you have left is your mental. 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:53.340 And I think you can, if you have both, it's gonna be easier on you. 00:21:53.340 --> 00:21:53.700 Mm-hmm. 00:21:53.700 --> 00:21:55.380 Easier on your body, you know what I mean? 00:21:55.380 --> 00:21:57.300 So if guys are recovering and you don't have time to recover, 00:21:57.300 --> 00:21:58.560 your body just breaks down. 00:21:58.560 --> 00:22:03.300 And then one, you're either failing, uh, time stuff and that paperwork can 00:22:03.300 --> 00:22:05.400 stack up and then you just get the boot. 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:05.930 Yeah. 00:22:05.930 --> 00:22:07.920 You know, or your body breaks down and you have an. 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:09.840 Then they get the boot or get rolled. 00:22:09.840 --> 00:22:13.980 So going into it really physically fit with the right, obviously mental mentality 00:22:13.980 --> 00:22:16.020 you have just that, that much better. 00:22:16.020 --> 00:22:19.620 A lot of guys younger, you know, the younger guys in classes quit more. 00:22:19.620 --> 00:22:23.580 And then one I, my belief is they haven't had as much life experience of 00:22:23.580 --> 00:22:25.740 ups and downs that they've been through. 00:22:25.740 --> 00:22:30.240 They have been a bit crushing whether, you know, physically or just emotional, 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.900 you know, putting out and pushing through lack of sleep, whether it's, 00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:37.080 you know, getting through stuff in college or just family stuff or whatever. 00:22:37.800 --> 00:22:41.880 So in general, younger guys end up quitting more because at that moment 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:43.260 of time it's just they're in anguish. 00:22:43.260 --> 00:22:46.740 They're physically and mentally, you know, just so beat down that they 00:22:46.740 --> 00:22:49.980 just make that, you know, that that kind of irrational decision to quit. 00:22:49.980 --> 00:22:52.320 And then there's obviously after that, so bummed didn't wanna come 00:22:52.320 --> 00:22:53.340 back in two years or whatever. 00:22:53.340 --> 00:22:54.660 Yeah. 00:22:54.660 --> 00:22:57.300 Um, you know, a lot of guys are like, well, it just wasn't for. 00:22:57.300 --> 00:22:59.160 Okay, fair enough. 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:03.540 You know, I, I quit a, i, you know, after I quit, after hell week, or, you 00:23:03.540 --> 00:23:07.140 know, the, the excuse, there's a reason you, the excuses you hear are like, 00:23:07.140 --> 00:23:12.000 well, you know, they didn't realize that, you know, my legs were too, the 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:13.320 stretch rashes were just too much. 00:23:13.320 --> 00:23:15.180 Like, if you have stretch fractures, they'll pull you out. 00:23:15.180 --> 00:23:18.060 They check you, and if they're, they're bad, you get rolled. 00:23:18.060 --> 00:23:19.500 If you're a good dude, you get rolled. 00:23:19.500 --> 00:23:20.940 They heal, go through again. 00:23:20.940 --> 00:23:23.926 So, mm, you, I've heard every excuse in the 00:23:23.926 --> 00:23:24.060 Travis Bader: book. 00:23:24.600 --> 00:23:25.140 Yeah. 00:23:25.140 --> 00:23:28.560 It's funny, the, um, you're, you're talking about the younger 00:23:28.560 --> 00:23:30.600 folk, the pain is so relative. 00:23:31.800 --> 00:23:35.100 If you've never felt pain and you all of a sudden feel some, that's 00:23:35.100 --> 00:23:35.940 the worse than they were life. 00:23:35.940 --> 00:23:36.900 So Andrew Arrabito: far. 00:23:36.900 --> 00:23:37.740 Yeah. 00:23:37.740 --> 00:23:40.680 And then after they quit, they're, they're, you know, the pain of 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:43.440 telling their dad they quit, or their family and disappointment, they're 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:44.580 like, Ugh, we gotta live with that. 00:23:44.580 --> 00:23:45.060 Yeah. 00:23:45.060 --> 00:23:47.580 And there's guys who go to the point where their legs are, you 00:23:47.580 --> 00:23:49.800 know, they have stress fracture in their femurs, not quitting, and they 00:23:49.800 --> 00:23:50.984 can't walk and they get pulled out. 00:23:50.984 --> 00:23:50.991 Mm-hmm. 00:23:50.991 --> 00:23:53.580 They're, the instructors are like, that's what we wanna see. 00:23:53.580 --> 00:23:58.140 Not these injuries, but this can heal like your non equipt mentality that 00:23:58.140 --> 00:24:00.600 you're gonna accomplish it and be a part of the team is what we wanna see. 00:24:00.600 --> 00:24:01.440 Totally. 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:01.846 I 00:24:01.846 --> 00:24:05.040 Travis Bader: remember reading the, I, I forget what it was in, it was. 00:24:06.600 --> 00:24:08.700 Popular mechanics or something like this. 00:24:08.700 --> 00:24:10.620 It, it was a weird place for it to be in. 00:24:10.620 --> 00:24:13.020 But I think they're talking about, um, the psychology of 00:24:13.020 --> 00:24:14.580 individuals during World War ii. 00:24:14.580 --> 00:24:18.780 And they would have these old guys out there and with the young guys 00:24:18.780 --> 00:24:24.000 and in situations, let's say they're out at sea and they're without food 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:27.060 and water for a bit of time, and they figured, you know, logically 00:24:27.060 --> 00:24:28.200 the young guys are gonna do better. 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:29.820 They're younger, they're healthier, they're stronger. 00:24:29.820 --> 00:24:33.480 But by and large, in all of these, uh, arduous situations, the 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:35.700 old guys were, were prevailing. 00:24:35.700 --> 00:24:39.420 And these are people who'd already seen a war before and sure, maybe 00:24:39.420 --> 00:24:41.820 their last divorce was worse than what they're going through right now. 00:24:41.820 --> 00:24:42.420 Right. Through 00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:45.540 Andrew Arrabito: a lot of stress, you know, mental stress and 00:24:45.540 --> 00:24:48.526 physical stress and just outlast, 00:24:48.526 --> 00:24:51.180 Travis Bader: there's a saying, everyone's heard it, that which 00:24:51.180 --> 00:24:52.560 doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. 00:24:52.560 --> 00:24:57.840 Well, all of that stress, I mean, some people will say, well, except 00:24:57.840 --> 00:24:59.160 for radiation poisoning, right? 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.320 Andrew Arrabito: I mean, there's some exceptions there, but Right. 00:25:01.320 --> 00:25:01.800 Overall, 00:25:01.800 --> 00:25:05.700 Travis Bader: Finding a way to frame that stress in a positive 00:25:05.700 --> 00:25:07.380 fashion, I think is interesting. 00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:12.840 What would you do in order to be able to operate through these stressful situations 00:25:12.840 --> 00:25:15.420 and then come back in, in a healthy way? 00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:20.580 Andrew Arrabito: Uh, like training stuff or now, you know what I mean? 00:25:20.580 --> 00:25:21.226 What's, uh, 00:25:21.226 --> 00:25:24.154 Travis Bader: you know, do you employ, there's different, a different structure. 00:25:24.154 --> 00:25:28.680 Andrew Arrabito: I don't, yeah, I think now, well, let's go back to then, 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.500 you know, through those tough times. 00:25:31.500 --> 00:25:33.240 Then let's, let's say training. 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:35.700 Um, and then let's encompass that into the SEAL teams and your 00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:36.900 training in the SEAL teams as well. 00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:39.180 Then you have, you have an end goal, right? 00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:40.680 You have an end goal and a lot of that. 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:44.580 You know, it's such a team oriented thing, and they make sure that they 00:25:44.580 --> 00:25:47.820 make sure there's individually based tests and then there's team oriented 00:25:47.820 --> 00:25:53.280 tests, and they want the mentality of you versus them in training too. 00:25:53.280 --> 00:25:57.060 So you build that camaraderie with your buddies and work with them to 00:25:57.060 --> 00:25:59.040 like, not undermine the instructors. 00:25:59.040 --> 00:26:01.920 But there's little things like, you know, we have like a 10 mile run 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:06.180 and they were like, Hey, you can't put, um, you can't put, you know, 00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:08.100 padding on your, on your ruck sacks. 00:26:08.100 --> 00:26:12.360 So the guys we like cut, um, cut some old wet suits up and taped them on 00:26:12.360 --> 00:26:13.680 our bodies, you know what I mean? 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.500 So at the end, end of the run, we're doing pushups and they're like, 00:26:16.500 --> 00:26:19.140 everybody take their shirts up and they take, and there's like five or 00:26:19.140 --> 00:26:22.140 six of us in the class, you know, and they're like, they lose their minds. 00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:22.980 They make us get wet. 00:26:22.980 --> 00:26:27.720 They call us back and they realized, they never said, you're not allowed 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:28.440 to put patting on your bodies. 00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:28.852 That's right. 00:26:28.852 --> 00:26:32.640 So they took us aside and they were like, you guys, you, you got us. 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:33.480 Okay, you're good. 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:34.380 You guys can go. 00:26:34.380 --> 00:26:35.520 You know what I mean? 00:26:35.520 --> 00:26:36.780 So I love that thinking. 00:26:36.780 --> 00:26:39.900 And they like, they like that, think outta the box, think a different way. 00:26:39.900 --> 00:26:43.800 You know, they, they appreciate that those instructors think about how if I was an 00:26:43.800 --> 00:26:47.580 instructor going back and teaching those, I'd be like, oh, you got one up on it. 00:26:47.580 --> 00:26:48.540 You know, that's really cool. 00:26:48.540 --> 00:26:49.140 And they like that. 00:26:49.140 --> 00:26:52.320 So then, you know, back then it's really about your, your buddy 00:26:52.320 --> 00:26:53.880 next to you and your teammate. 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.060 And if you quit, what if they're gonna be put in such a stressful 00:26:57.060 --> 00:26:58.860 situation that they can't handle it? 00:26:58.860 --> 00:26:59.220 Possibly. 00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:02.940 And what if your mentality flows over to theirs and you know, for a fact that 00:27:02.940 --> 00:27:04.320 their mentality is flowing over to you? 00:27:04.320 --> 00:27:08.160 You know, obviously you're stronger as a team, um, and 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:09.300 you want your buddy to succeed. 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:10.860 Wow. 00:27:10.860 --> 00:27:11.236 You know? 00:27:11.236 --> 00:27:12.540 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.600 Yeah. That's a very strong way of looking at it. 00:27:15.600 --> 00:27:18.840 As much they, as much as they try and build you up as a team and break you 00:27:18.840 --> 00:27:22.380 down as an individual, the more you just lean into that team mentality. 00:27:22.380 --> 00:27:23.503 Yeah. And you're part 00:27:23.503 --> 00:27:23.700 Andrew Arrabito: of it. 00:27:23.700 --> 00:27:27.480 You, you, you know, you don't realize how big an impact you know, 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:30.240 you have on your buddies then. 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.300 Right, and I've thought about it now, and that really comes into 00:27:33.300 --> 00:27:35.640 now as well and how much of an impact you have on your friends. 00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:38.700 And I don't realize a lot of people don't realize the impact 00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:40.080 you have on other individuals. 00:27:41.100 --> 00:27:47.220 Um, and I've, I've come to a few points in my, in my life where I kind of just, 00:27:47.220 --> 00:27:54.240 you know, saw, um, the impact that such incredible impact that not only like 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:57.360 growing up, you know, my buddies growing up, looking out for me before I was in, 00:27:57.360 --> 00:27:59.520 my buddies that were in that are out now. 00:28:00.600 --> 00:28:03.900 Um, guys like Dan Luna, uh, guys, seal team buddies, Ryan Bates. 00:28:04.740 --> 00:28:08.340 Um, thinking about my mom, thinking about some of my very close friends that have 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:14.040 been in, you know, such an impact in me that I wouldn't be the guy I am today. 00:28:14.040 --> 00:28:15.060 I wouldn't be the man I am today. 00:28:15.060 --> 00:28:17.220 I wouldn't have, I would've given up before, maybe not worked as 00:28:17.220 --> 00:28:20.820 hard or something could have possibly a different path. 00:28:20.820 --> 00:28:26.280 And I, I've, you know, come to some, some pretty huge points in my life 00:28:26.280 --> 00:28:30.420 where I just like, It really blew my mind, the level of love that I've been 00:28:30.420 --> 00:28:37.260 given, the level of faith that people have given and put on me faith in me. 00:28:37.260 --> 00:28:38.220 Mm-hmm. 00:28:38.220 --> 00:28:42.240 Um, that I'm like, uh, I've just gotta be so blessed and I, I should always 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:48.840 try to recognize it and give that back and hope and like, hope that I can be 00:28:48.840 --> 00:28:54.600 the level in which I've, you know, feel blessed by the people I love that I 00:28:54.600 --> 00:28:58.440 could, I, I want to spend the rest of my life trying to show them that I can be 00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.106 that for them too, and hopefully I can. 00:29:00.106 --> 00:29:02.700 Travis Bader: I think that's a really key concept too. 00:29:02.700 --> 00:29:06.600 Victor Frank called the Father Modern Logo Therapy, wrote a book, man's Search 00:29:06.600 --> 00:29:14.400 for Easy Man's Search for Meaning, and he says, uh, there is meaning in suffering 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:19.020 and there's ways to find meaning in suffering, which people look at, look 00:29:19.020 --> 00:29:20.460 at how terrible things are for me. 00:29:20.460 --> 00:29:25.260 Uh, there is no reason for all of this suffering, but your ability, 00:29:25.260 --> 00:29:27.060 your ability to identify that. 00:29:27.060 --> 00:29:29.940 And I think, uh, one of the, uh, research things I looked at, it 00:29:29.940 --> 00:29:33.480 says, uh, it was you, you said, if, if you can use adversity 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.220 correctly, you can do great things. 00:29:36.120 --> 00:29:39.180 And that kind of struck with me is basically the exact same thing 00:29:39.180 --> 00:29:42.300 that Victor Frankls saying, sing, find a way to use that adversity. 00:29:42.300 --> 00:29:44.340 How do you use adversity correctly? 00:29:44.340 --> 00:29:49.560 Andrew Arrabito: Um, well my, you know, one of my, one of my beliefs 00:29:49.560 --> 00:29:53.460 is, uh, you know, bad things happen to good and bad people alike, and 00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:54.840 sometimes there's no good reason. 00:29:54.840 --> 00:29:55.380 Mm-hmm. 00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:57.180 You know, and a lot of people search for a reason. 00:29:57.180 --> 00:30:02.400 Not that you can't, like we're talking about take adversity and, you know, 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:06.780 whether it gives you drive or just you're like, Hey, that's really disappointing. 00:30:06.780 --> 00:30:07.380 That really sucks. 00:30:07.380 --> 00:30:08.269 That's really heartbreaking. 00:30:08.269 --> 00:30:08.276 Mm-hmm. 00:30:08.276 --> 00:30:12.480 Um, I don't need a reason, you know, I don't have to understand 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.420 that bad things happen to good people and bad people alike. 00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:20.460 But, uh, there can always be a lesson to teach yourself out of it. 00:30:20.460 --> 00:30:21.120 You know, 00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:27.000 Travis Bader: so you got, what was the most difficult part 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:28.800 of your, uh, your seal career? 00:30:28.800 --> 00:30:33.840 Andrew Arrabito: Um, I mean, losing buddies has gotta be the most difficult, 00:30:33.840 --> 00:30:36.300 you know, uh, physical difficult. 00:30:37.320 --> 00:30:41.460 I mean, you can always, you know, work out, you know, work out more, 00:30:41.460 --> 00:30:43.920 be stronger, um, study harder. 00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:47.220 You can always do those things, but sometimes you, obviously 00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:50.760 you would save your friends if you could, and you, you cannot. 00:30:50.760 --> 00:30:51.360 Mm-hmm. 00:30:51.360 --> 00:30:54.180 It's one of those, those things in life where you can't bring 00:30:54.180 --> 00:30:55.020 people back from the dead. 00:30:55.620 --> 00:30:59.820 You can be the best absolute, you could be the most stellar operator in the world, 00:30:59.820 --> 00:31:01.860 and you're still gonna lose close friends. 00:31:01.860 --> 00:31:03.540 That's, that's what war does. 00:31:03.540 --> 00:31:07.740 There's, you just can't save everybody, obviously. 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.300 Um, the most, you know, it's gotta be the most rewarding. 00:31:12.900 --> 00:31:17.340 Rewarding job in the world and all the, and also the most heartbreaking, you 00:31:17.340 --> 00:31:21.780 know, and that's the value of the value of extremes, I guess, and the value of 00:31:21.780 --> 00:31:25.500 love and the value of friendship and the value of growth and the value of meaning. 00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:30.600 You know, you live a, a gray life that you don't have a lot of extremes. 00:31:31.320 --> 00:31:32.760 I mean, what do you compare? 00:31:32.760 --> 00:31:34.020 How do you compare that? 00:31:34.020 --> 00:31:35.400 You know, how do you compare that level of love? 00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:36.660 How do you compare that level of hard work? 00:31:36.660 --> 00:31:41.100 You know, if you've been surrounded by people who don't work super hard and, 00:31:41.100 --> 00:31:44.760 and, uh, then you go to the next job and they're like, and you, or, but they 00:31:44.760 --> 00:31:47.400 think they work hard and you go to the next job and these people are like, 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:51.420 you're, you know, this guy doesn't work hard and you think you do well, maybe 00:31:51.420 --> 00:31:54.840 that whole group you're surrounded, were yourself with just doesn't work hard. 00:31:54.840 --> 00:31:57.060 And there's, and this next group really does. 00:31:57.060 --> 00:31:59.760 And I've had some of these not quite arguments with guys. 00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:03.180 I'm like, guys, like, you know, I've worked hard my whole life. 00:32:03.180 --> 00:32:07.200 Like, I'm, I Well, you haven't worked, you haven't worked 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:08.940 with the guys I know, right? 00:32:08.940 --> 00:32:11.640 You know, there's another level of hard Yeah. 00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:12.646 You know, 00:32:12.646 --> 00:32:15.840 Travis Bader: that's, I think it was Elon and, uh, whoever 00:32:15.840 --> 00:32:17.940 the, the new CEO of Apple is. 00:32:18.540 --> 00:32:21.240 There was an article I read a while ago, and they're talking 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:25.020 about individuals who come into a high performing, uh, environment. 00:32:25.020 --> 00:32:28.560 They hire a new person in, they come from a low performing environment. 00:32:28.560 --> 00:32:31.140 They're now in a high performing environment, and how quickly 00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:33.780 that person will adapt to the culture of high performance. 00:32:33.780 --> 00:32:38.340 And likewise, that high performing individual who prides himself on their 00:32:38.340 --> 00:32:42.720 high performance when put into a low performing environment in workplace, 00:32:44.220 --> 00:32:48.540 how that person will just fit in with a low performing crowd unless they leave. 00:32:48.540 --> 00:32:50.923 If they, if they get on their Well, I mean, or you 00:32:50.923 --> 00:32:51.840 Andrew Arrabito: have. Yeah. 00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:54.960 I mean, have you ever heard of guys that, you know, a new guy comes into work and 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:56.760 he crushes it and the other guys are mad? 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.480 You know, that's a union thing they're making, they're making us look bad. 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:01.620 That guy's making us look bad. 00:33:01.620 --> 00:33:02.160 Right. 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:02.760 Oh man. 00:33:02.760 --> 00:33:04.080 Step your game up or something. 00:33:04.080 --> 00:33:04.740 Right. You know? 00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:07.740 Cause some people just have, some people aren't there just for the nine to five. 00:33:07.740 --> 00:33:09.600 Some people really love their job, some people are good at it, 00:33:09.600 --> 00:33:10.740 some people have natural ability. 00:33:10.740 --> 00:33:11.130 Mm-hmm. 00:33:11.130 --> 00:33:14.160 You know, versus just, just, you know, some have this, some 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:15.600 people just have a talent for it. 00:33:15.600 --> 00:33:18.000 Whether it's a physical attribute or a mental attribute growing up. 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:20.880 Cause we all grew up different and I've heard it many times. 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.140 Oh, that guy's making us look bad. 00:33:22.140 --> 00:33:24.480 Well, well you better up your game. 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.420 You know, that guy got a raise in three months and I didn't get one for eight. 00:33:28.380 --> 00:33:32.160 Well, I mean, try to sit there and recognize what they're doing different. 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.100 You know, like maybe they just want to perform. 00:33:35.100 --> 00:33:37.500 Maybe they're being held back by everybody else. 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:41.700 Um, I, I, it's a good thing to emulate those people, obviously. 00:33:41.700 --> 00:33:44.400 Maybe it's just the sad sacks that don't wanna work harder. 00:33:45.420 --> 00:33:47.460 Um, not that, listen, people get overlooked. 00:33:47.460 --> 00:33:49.020 There's, there's people who work hard, they get a little 00:33:49.020 --> 00:33:49.980 overlooked here and there. 00:33:49.980 --> 00:33:53.760 Whether it comes to financial gain, uh, maybe there's not a position somebody 00:33:53.760 --> 00:33:57.172 can hop in a leadership position or a responsibility position in a business. 00:33:57.172 --> 00:33:58.800 Hmm. Um, that they deserve. 00:33:58.800 --> 00:34:00.420 Just that position doesn't exist yet. 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.940 Um, there are people that can perform better. 00:34:03.660 --> 00:34:06.120 Finding those individuals and putting 'em in the right positions where 00:34:06.120 --> 00:34:09.180 they are challenged so they can keep going up is, is really ideal. 00:34:09.180 --> 00:34:13.080 Some people don't want, you know, they, they want what somebody else 00:34:13.080 --> 00:34:16.080 has, but they didn't, they don't wanna put the time and effort in to get it. 00:34:16.080 --> 00:34:18.660 Travis Bader: That that is very often the case. 00:34:18.660 --> 00:34:21.600 People will look at the whole grass is greener on the other side. 00:34:21.600 --> 00:34:22.920 Right. Well, look at what you. 00:34:24.060 --> 00:34:25.440 How do I get there, man? 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:26.280 This is a lot of work. 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.740 How do I just emulate you? 00:34:28.740 --> 00:34:29.572 Steal from you cheeks. 00:34:29.572 --> 00:34:30.480 How can I be better? 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:31.740 How can I shortcut it? 00:34:31.740 --> 00:34:36.420 Quite often you see those people who don't want to put that work in Right. 00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:37.423 To try and shortcut 00:34:37.423 --> 00:34:39.840 Andrew Arrabito: it over and, and even if you get overlooked, you know, like, 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.140 like I was saying, like sometimes you put the effort in and it doesn't happen. 00:34:43.140 --> 00:34:43.530 Hmm. 00:34:43.530 --> 00:34:45.900 It doesn't mean you say, you know, you throw your arms up. 00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:50.580 It doesn't mean you give up on working that, doing that extra, 00:34:50.580 --> 00:34:51.780 you know, going that extra mile. 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.020 Like what, where's the self pride in your own? 00:34:55.020 --> 00:34:55.500 That's it. 00:34:55.500 --> 00:34:56.700 Your own, your own growth. 00:34:56.700 --> 00:34:58.980 Where's the self pride in your own career development? 00:34:58.980 --> 00:35:03.946 Where's the self pride in your own mental capacity and drive and honor or 00:35:03.946 --> 00:35:04.560 Travis Bader: integrity? 00:35:05.640 --> 00:35:10.680 So I, I remember as an 18 year old, uh, got a union job, was working for an 00:35:10.680 --> 00:35:14.220 armored car company and it was one of, at the time, one of the, one of, if not 00:35:14.220 --> 00:35:17.940 the youngest individuals hired by an armored car company up here in Canada. 00:35:17.940 --> 00:35:23.940 Now how much they pay the armor car workers, uh, If they didn't have young 00:35:23.940 --> 00:35:26.880 people coming into the game, they wouldn't have people working for 'em. 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:33.120 And it was a really weird mindset because I would hustle and I look at 00:35:33.120 --> 00:35:36.120 this, I'm like, well, Jesus, if I put an eight hour shift in, but I finish it 00:35:36.120 --> 00:35:40.560 in four, then I go to the beach right then, then I'm out doing something 00:35:40.560 --> 00:35:42.660 else, and I get the same, same pay. 00:35:42.660 --> 00:35:44.100 And they would say, oh, slow down. 00:35:44.100 --> 00:35:46.140 This eight hour shift can be turned into 10 hours. 00:35:46.140 --> 00:35:47.040 We make overtime. 00:35:47.040 --> 00:35:48.180 This is where we make our money. 00:35:48.180 --> 00:35:48.480 Right. 00:35:49.140 --> 00:35:53.340 I ended up starting other jobs in the time that I had off. 00:35:53.340 --> 00:35:56.940 Uh, so I'd do my four hours and I'd look for something else I could do. 00:35:56.940 --> 00:35:57.780 I started welding. 00:35:57.780 --> 00:36:01.920 I started, uh, uh, gunsmith things and doing, doing other things. 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:03.480 Andrew Arrabito: So, so good career development. 00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:05.460 Your own, your, your, your own personal. 00:36:06.420 --> 00:36:07.020 Right. 00:36:07.020 --> 00:36:10.260 And you, you are the one who drove your own personal growth, which is awesome. 00:36:10.260 --> 00:36:14.580 You can have individuals greater than you that just have more life experience, that 00:36:14.580 --> 00:36:16.380 have that same drive that push you there. 00:36:16.380 --> 00:36:18.240 But not all the individuals have that. 00:36:18.240 --> 00:36:21.240 That's where you have guys like Jocko come in and he, you know, and 00:36:21.240 --> 00:36:24.480 he speaks on this all the time, and he is like, your individual growth. 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.520 You're not gonna always have somebody there cracking the whip. 00:36:26.520 --> 00:36:26.820 Mm-hmm. 00:36:26.820 --> 00:36:29.820 Showing you how to be better or saying this is, you know, do 00:36:29.820 --> 00:36:31.740 this, that you have to do it. 00:36:31.740 --> 00:36:35.640 And it's very easy to become a little bit slack on it if you don't 00:36:35.640 --> 00:36:36.780 have those people driving you. 00:36:36.780 --> 00:36:37.140 Mm-hmm. 00:36:37.140 --> 00:36:38.520 You know, that's for you. 00:36:38.520 --> 00:36:39.946 I mean, that's really, that's excellent. 00:36:39.946 --> 00:36:43.260 Travis Bader: Well, you know, one thing I've always kind of just, and 00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:46.920 I, and I haven't figured out the answer quite yet, but you hear a lot 00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.100 of people just saying, go out and crush it, keep driving, keep going. 00:36:50.100 --> 00:36:50.520 Right. 00:36:50.520 --> 00:36:54.660 You can always work harder and it doesn't matter how hard you work in one. 00:36:54.660 --> 00:36:58.560 The parter you work in one area, the less attention you're putting to another area. 00:36:58.560 --> 00:37:00.420 We all need rest, right? 00:37:00.420 --> 00:37:01.440 We all need to recover. 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:01.830 Yeah. 00:37:01.830 --> 00:37:06.600 We all need physical and emotional and spiritual, and we have to 00:37:06.600 --> 00:37:07.740 somehow balance these things. 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:13.140 But, uh, the mantra that seems to be pushed out is you have to 00:37:13.140 --> 00:37:14.160 work harder than the next person. 00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:15.660 You gotta keep pushing and pushing. 00:37:16.380 --> 00:37:19.603 And I don't know if that's a, a sustainable sort of 00:37:19.603 --> 00:37:19.860 Andrew Arrabito: model. 00:37:19.860 --> 00:37:23.880 Maybe the work isn't always the best word to put it, you know, growth, 00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:25.140 maybe a better way to put it. 00:37:25.140 --> 00:37:28.800 And growth isn't always just physical labor growth isn't always just, um, 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.600 you know, more hours at work either. 00:37:30.600 --> 00:37:34.440 You know, growth can be, well obviously your mental growth and 00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.980 learning capacity, whether it's, you know, listening to books on tape or 00:37:37.980 --> 00:37:40.800 I guess they're not on tape anymore, you just download 'em on the phone. 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:42.300 But, um, how old are we? 00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:44.460 I'm, I'm getting up there. 00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:46.380 Um, you know what I mean? 00:37:46.380 --> 00:37:46.650 Um, totally. 00:37:46.650 --> 00:37:48.660 No, a lot of that have relationship growth. 00:37:48.660 --> 00:37:52.740 You know, what I, um, um, spiritual growth, that's all part of that work 00:37:52.740 --> 00:37:56.340 harder, I guess work isn't always the best, maybe term for it, but 00:37:56.340 --> 00:37:59.880 Travis Bader: find finding that balance and always striving for betterment. 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:00.960 Yeah. 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.540 Andrew Arrabito: Um, you, mental health, mental health, 00:38:03.540 --> 00:38:06.046 betterment, you know, not just work 00:38:06.046 --> 00:38:06.480 Travis Bader: effort. 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.100 What do you do for the mental health side? 00:38:08.100 --> 00:38:10.440 Because I have a feeling you do what I do and that's go outside. 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:11.563 Yeah. 00:38:11.563 --> 00:38:12.660 Andrew Arrabito: I love it, man. 00:38:12.660 --> 00:38:13.860 I, you know, I. 00:38:13.860 --> 00:38:15.900 I kind of have a thumb roll. 00:38:15.900 --> 00:38:18.420 Don't say no to any good new adventure. 00:38:18.420 --> 00:38:18.480 Yeah. 00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:21.660 I try to live, live by that and uh, I've been really blessed. 00:38:22.500 --> 00:38:23.760 This business itself. 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:28.140 Growing this has, has been obviously a blessing with, uh, mental health wise, 00:38:28.140 --> 00:38:32.280 as you know, starting this kind of, you know, for fun, starting the knives. 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.800 Like I was gonna make knives for my seal buddies and that kind of grew and 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.280 hired my roommate, hired my other buddy, my one roommate, you know, was, you 00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.100 know, parking cars, um, civilian guy. 00:38:41.100 --> 00:38:46.140 And I was like, Hey, like, I need help, you know, and I think he probably took 00:38:46.140 --> 00:38:49.440 a pay cut and he just started working in my backyard and hired my other buddy, 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.040 hired my buddy I grew up in since ninth grade and he's my, my manager now. 00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:55.320 And both the other guys lived with me for 10 years. 00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:56.220 They both work here. 00:38:57.720 --> 00:39:01.860 I created a little, you know, it was kind of back in the platoon was awesome. 00:39:01.860 --> 00:39:03.780 You're with your good close buddies all the time, so 00:39:03.780 --> 00:39:04.980 getting out that kind of sucks. 00:39:04.980 --> 00:39:09.540 So everybody's, you know, everywhere out in the world with their families 00:39:09.540 --> 00:39:13.140 and their businesses and their, their careers and you miss your buddies 00:39:13.140 --> 00:39:14.160 and you try to spend time with them. 00:39:14.160 --> 00:39:17.460 But, you know, creating a little shop here and having your close friends 00:39:17.460 --> 00:39:18.840 around you, that is good mental health. 00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:20.340 You would run together and we hike together. 00:39:20.340 --> 00:39:23.400 We have, I mean, even now, like I've been looking for a bigger shop for a while. 00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.180 I wanna build a little gym in my new shop, put a skate ramp in the back of it Nice. 00:39:27.180 --> 00:39:28.860 So we can skate together and guys can lift together. 00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:32.880 And we have, we have like a whole ton of guys who like to camp and hike and 00:39:33.660 --> 00:39:35.100 kind of create a whole hiking crew. 00:39:35.100 --> 00:39:38.220 And we like, okay, let's find in this new hike this weekend is 20 miles. 00:39:38.220 --> 00:39:39.060 Oh, who's in? 00:39:39.060 --> 00:39:39.360 You know? 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.700 And guys are like, oh, we're in, we have at five in the morning go 00:39:41.700 --> 00:39:43.080 do a big hike, a bunch of the crew. 00:39:43.080 --> 00:39:46.380 And it's really created a cool little environment that's mentally healthy. 00:39:47.160 --> 00:39:49.680 Um, for myself even personally. 00:39:50.220 --> 00:39:54.300 You know, and outside of that, this job affords the time and 00:39:54.300 --> 00:39:56.040 for me to go hunt and fish. 00:39:56.040 --> 00:39:59.940 And I have such an incredible team, uh, that I spend a lot of 00:39:59.940 --> 00:40:01.486 time, you know, in the outdoors. 00:40:01.486 --> 00:40:06.960 Travis Bader: I've seen people who come from a military background and they're 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.900 ambitious individuals and they're doing a similar thing to what you're doing. 00:40:09.900 --> 00:40:13.080 And basically they're recreating their platoon within their business 00:40:13.080 --> 00:40:14.640 and they got their buddies coming in. 00:40:14.640 --> 00:40:18.540 And quite often it's gonna be in something that's in an area that they 00:40:18.540 --> 00:40:19.920 have an interest in or they know about. 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:25.740 So I often see it in security fields and I've seen a lot of relationships 00:40:25.740 --> 00:40:28.920 go, Aw ride, because they are trying to recreate what they've found 00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.880 in the military structure without having that same military structure. 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.420 And one of them tries to assume a more superior role and maybe someone 00:40:36.420 --> 00:40:37.860 gets their knows how to join. 00:40:37.860 --> 00:40:39.720 Have you experienced much of that? 00:40:39.720 --> 00:40:42.900 Andrew Arrabito: No, I don't micromanage and. 00:40:42.900 --> 00:40:46.800 I kind of, you know, put guys in in positions where they're capable. 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.680 And I do have an expectation of just working hard. 00:40:49.680 --> 00:40:56.460 And, um, I haven't had, I've been blessed to not have I got outta the military, 00:40:56.460 --> 00:41:00.720 you know, a hundred percent through the va, disabled, you know, from injuries. 00:41:00.720 --> 00:41:05.700 And I would've stayed in, you know, had there been the war kicking off and ISIS 00:41:05.700 --> 00:41:07.080 kicked off, I probably would've stayed in. 00:41:07.080 --> 00:41:07.620 Mm-hmm. 00:41:07.620 --> 00:41:12.180 Um, I kind of, when guys get out of the military and they go right back into 00:41:12.180 --> 00:41:14.640 something outside of that for a little more money with the same structure, 00:41:14.640 --> 00:41:17.340 I'm always like, why not just stay with the boys with the best group ever? 00:41:17.340 --> 00:41:17.880 Mm-hmm. 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:18.900 You know what I mean? 00:41:18.900 --> 00:41:22.560 So I didn't, I didn't want, I didn't want to be in that same structure, 00:41:22.560 --> 00:41:26.160 the same environment, you know, the environment, the awesome part of it 00:41:26.160 --> 00:41:27.420 with your buddies all time is great. 00:41:27.420 --> 00:41:31.200 I don't wanna be in that same kind of, I don't know if it's too structured 00:41:31.200 --> 00:41:33.480 or, you know, it's not too structured. 00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:34.500 I think you just get a lot. 00:41:34.500 --> 00:41:37.500 You know, uh, politics and stuff like that. 00:41:37.500 --> 00:41:39.406 So yeah, you don't really have politics in 00:41:39.406 --> 00:41:39.780 Travis Bader: my shop. 00:41:39.780 --> 00:41:44.400 So you used sustained a few injuries actually, and that was, you ended 00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.820 up leaving on a hundred percent disability, if I'm not mistaken. 00:41:47.820 --> 00:41:48.163 Yeah. 00:41:48.163 --> 00:41:50.040 Andrew Arrabito: My, I was, you know, supposed to do mad board 00:41:50.040 --> 00:41:53.040 and I ended up just doing my e o s and not doing the mad board. 00:41:53.040 --> 00:41:57.240 So I went to try to do the med board again after I got out and they 00:41:57.240 --> 00:41:58.380 were like, no, you're already out. 00:41:58.380 --> 00:42:04.500 So I have all my paperwork for my medical retirement's been in for years, and it's 00:42:04.500 --> 00:42:09.240 just, you know, the Navy has to go, like, VA paperwork has to go back to the Navy 00:42:09.240 --> 00:42:12.240 and then they have to look at it and be like, oh yeah, we should have med boarded. 00:42:12.240 --> 00:42:15.120 You, we were going to, but we didn't for, you know, so it's 00:42:15.120 --> 00:42:17.640 just a, it's a long process. 00:42:17.640 --> 00:42:20.160 Travis Bader: What were those injuries? 00:42:20.160 --> 00:42:23.520 I know you held up your hand there, but you had more than one, didn't you? 00:42:23.520 --> 00:42:25.200 Yeah, I Andrew Arrabito: mean, I mean, from. 00:42:25.980 --> 00:42:26.580 I dunno. 00:42:26.580 --> 00:42:32.160 Falling off roofs and breaking my nose and broken my left leg and you know, my, all 00:42:32.160 --> 00:42:35.760 my fingers got smashed in the steel ship hatch the wind from a blackhawk caught 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.940 the door and slammed me and I got my leg out the door, put my hand on the wall, 00:42:38.940 --> 00:42:41.880 pulled my leg outta the door as I was slamming and caught all my fingers in the 00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:45.420 hinge sign, broke all those, and damn, I broken these fingers on my right hand. 00:42:45.420 --> 00:42:48.826 Just, you know, I used to fight probably a little too much. 00:42:48.826 --> 00:42:49.500 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:42:49.500 --> 00:42:51.480 That was something else I picked up, it looked like. 00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:56.460 Uh, and that's where I started tweaking into the possible O D d, oppositional 00:42:56.460 --> 00:42:59.160 defiance, 80 ADHD sort of thing. 00:43:00.300 --> 00:43:04.500 Um, that fight's great when you're a seal, uh, doesn't jive as 00:43:04.500 --> 00:43:06.240 well when you're outside, right? 00:43:06.240 --> 00:43:06.751 The civilian 00:43:06.751 --> 00:43:06.951 Andrew Arrabito: environment. Yeah. 00:43:06.951 --> 00:43:09.660 You get, you get in trouble a bit more when you're in, in the 00:43:09.660 --> 00:43:11.220 teams here and there, you know. 00:43:11.220 --> 00:43:14.460 But it really depends, depends when and how you're fighting. 00:43:14.460 --> 00:43:17.760 You're not going out drunk just picking fights at the bars, you know what I mean? 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:22.380 Generally, if you're out, you know, somewhere, four or five people, people 00:43:22.380 --> 00:43:25.500 really, you know, if they find out, if you're on trip and they find out you're. 00:43:25.500 --> 00:43:28.800 You know, a team guy of some sort, they end up getting chips on their shoulders 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.960 and guys like to test their might. 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:32.146 Yeah, I hear 00:43:32.146 --> 00:43:33.300 Travis Bader: ya. It's funny. 00:43:33.300 --> 00:43:34.260 Funny how that works. 00:43:34.260 --> 00:43:35.460 Well, you're a tough guy, huh? 00:43:35.460 --> 00:43:38.760 Well I bet you if I can, if I can take you on, that must make me a tough guy. 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.546 Andrew Arrabito: You're like, okay buddy. 00:43:40.546 --> 00:43:42.000 Travis Bader: See how this goes. 00:43:43.140 --> 00:43:47.940 Um, There is something about, uh, a beehive or bee stings. 00:43:47.940 --> 00:43:48.780 What was this one about? 00:43:48.780 --> 00:43:49.423 Oh, man, 00:43:49.423 --> 00:43:52.080 Andrew Arrabito: I got, I got blown off this roof in Afghanistan 00:43:52.080 --> 00:43:56.100 and, uh, come flying off a roof, like kind of half with it. 00:43:56.100 --> 00:44:01.140 I have my gun in my hand, but I'm kind of angled out into the compound and I 00:44:01.140 --> 00:44:04.920 pretty much, in my mind, I don't know, for a split second, thinking maybe if I run 00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:09.060 with my legs like this and I hit, I can run it out like a cartoon or something. 00:44:09.060 --> 00:44:10.080 It didn't happen. 00:44:10.080 --> 00:44:14.100 I just remember hitting and my gun hit and I just, and pulled my arms down like that. 00:44:14.100 --> 00:44:17.700 So my face went forward and I hit like this little pile of logs and, 00:44:17.700 --> 00:44:21.300 you know, cut my face open here, like, broke my nose again and got knocked 00:44:21.300 --> 00:44:22.920 out, but my gear slid up my back. 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.980 So my blur back was showing and there's these bumblebees, there's 00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:29.400 just monster bumblebees that live in the walls over there, and they just 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:33.000 attacked my back too while I was knocked out and just stung my back a bunch. 00:44:34.140 --> 00:44:37.020 So it took a minute and my buddies were like, all right, well I'm not 00:44:37.020 --> 00:44:39.940 getting stung, so I'm just gonna wait till Beto wakes up, you know? 00:44:39.940 --> 00:44:44.040 So pretty soon that I kind of get nudged and I start getting up and 00:44:44.040 --> 00:44:49.800 uh, um, hi Curl and uh, Brad Cameron was like, Hey dude, you good? 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:51.600 I'm like, yeah, man, I'm good. 00:44:51.600 --> 00:44:53.400 Uh, man, something. 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:54.840 I broke my, my back, man. 00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:56.160 My back hurts really bad. 00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:57.720 He was like, no, man. 00:44:57.720 --> 00:44:59.880 You should have seen the amount of bees on there though, you know? 00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:02.760 I was like, oh, okay. 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:03.720 It's just bee sting. 00:45:03.720 --> 00:45:04.189 He's like, yeah. 00:45:04.189 --> 00:45:04.890 He's like, you're allergic. 00:45:04.890 --> 00:45:06.780 I'm like, I don't, I don't think so. 00:45:06.780 --> 00:45:10.320 I don't never been stung by these monster bumble bees in the walls and Afghanistan. 00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:12.000 I was like, yeah, I'll be all right. 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.300 So, yeah, get a little quick little cleanup and back at it. 00:45:15.300 --> 00:45:18.480 Travis Bader: God, love your maid chair, huh? 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:18.960 He'll be okay. 00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.463 I'm not going in there getting those bees off him. 00:45:21.463 --> 00:45:24.120 Andrew Arrabito: Yeah, he was like, you know, he was like leaning back like 00:45:24.120 --> 00:45:25.440 this, like pushing me with his foot. 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:26.220 You good dude? 00:45:26.220 --> 00:45:27.960 Like still bees around? 00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:28.560 He is like, no. 00:45:28.560 --> 00:45:29.460 I was like, you could have just. 00:45:29.460 --> 00:45:30.720 But, you know, woke me up normal. 00:45:30.720 --> 00:45:33.360 Travis Bader: That's funny. 00:45:34.020 --> 00:45:38.520 So you're out and you decide, hey, I want to, I want to be a businessman. 00:45:38.520 --> 00:45:39.960 I want to be an entrepreneur. 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:42.360 He just took a stab at it. 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:43.376 Or if you had a little bit of background. 00:45:43.376 --> 00:45:44.383 Um, there's 00:45:44.383 --> 00:45:45.780 Andrew Arrabito: another, another team guy that wanted 00:45:45.780 --> 00:45:46.800 start a brewery and distillery. 00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:51.060 Uh, and I, he was getting out around the same time and I was like, cool man. 00:45:51.060 --> 00:45:54.840 And interesting enough, before when I hurt my hand, I was, you know, about nine 00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:56.640 months before my end of active service. 00:45:56.640 --> 00:46:01.140 And my, I had just had to do all this physical therapy and stuff, so my master 00:46:01.140 --> 00:46:03.900 chief was like, well, you're gonna, you know, make a lot of your own schedule. 00:46:03.900 --> 00:46:07.740 And I was like, man, you know, I was like, distilling would be cool. 00:46:07.740 --> 00:46:10.980 So he, you know, he was like, cool, you know, you have all this leave 00:46:10.980 --> 00:46:13.920 saved up, so you wanna take leave and start going to distilling school. 00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:18.180 So I went to Chicago and, um, I forgot where else I went to some, you 00:46:18.180 --> 00:46:19.560 know, two week distilling courses. 00:46:19.560 --> 00:46:21.600 So another guy wanted to do a brewery. 00:46:21.600 --> 00:46:23.160 So I was like, all right, well let's combine forces. 00:46:23.160 --> 00:46:26.520 So immediately when I got out, I went into doing that and, uh, ended 00:46:26.520 --> 00:46:27.720 up having some really dishonest. 00:46:27.720 --> 00:46:33.960 Uh, business partners there that, uh, just, you know, really dishonest 00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:38.400 people and, uh, eventually just pulled away from that and spent a long time 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.860 in court, uh, with that whole thing. 00:46:40.860 --> 00:46:42.840 But was worst doing work? 00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:43.920 Worst? Oh man, it's crazy. 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:47.280 Like, you know, you get, you trust people so much in the SEAL teams and 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:49.800 you get out and like these people Yep. 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:51.540 Just once they, I don't know. 00:46:51.540 --> 00:46:53.520 Travis Bader: And then you're stuck in the legal battle and 00:46:53.520 --> 00:46:54.825 that's a whole different ballpark. 00:46:54.825 --> 00:46:54.829 Yes. 00:46:54.829 --> 00:46:58.140 You gotta, and that's not a game where you can just reach out and punch them. 00:46:58.140 --> 00:47:01.068 Andrew Arrabito: No, that'd be, I mean, that, that'd be ideal. 00:47:01.068 --> 00:47:02.100 Punching in the least. 00:47:02.100 --> 00:47:02.820 Yeah, exactly. 00:47:02.820 --> 00:47:06.900 You know, but um, yeah, so dealing with that and then I've, you know, met some 00:47:06.900 --> 00:47:09.900 good people up in LA and I was doing some military advising and stuff like that. 00:47:09.900 --> 00:47:13.440 And while I was doing that, I met a guy, Garrett Warren, he's a stunt director, 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.900 uh, and second unit director as well. 00:47:15.900 --> 00:47:18.420 Did Avatar Logan at the first hour time. 00:47:18.420 --> 00:47:22.500 I mean, his, his, uh, work up there as a stunt man, a stunt director, and, and, and 00:47:22.500 --> 00:47:24.720 director is like absolutely incredible. 00:47:24.720 --> 00:47:28.020 So made really good, good friends with him, one of my best friends. 00:47:28.020 --> 00:47:30.420 So when stuff came up, I'd go work up there. 00:47:30.420 --> 00:47:34.740 It's not something I want to, um, I didn't wanna live in la I didn't wanna 00:47:34.740 --> 00:47:36.660 hustle like that just for a penny. 00:47:36.660 --> 00:47:39.300 That you gotta spend 90% of that penny, you know? 00:47:39.300 --> 00:47:40.080 Yeah. 00:47:40.080 --> 00:47:41.100 Living in the city. 00:47:41.100 --> 00:47:45.420 So that's, but I did enjoy working with good people up there. 00:47:45.420 --> 00:47:49.080 So that's, I was kind of doing that and then I was like, man, you 00:47:49.080 --> 00:47:51.900 know, to get back in the outdoors, I started kind of hunting again and 00:47:51.900 --> 00:47:55.380 getting into that and I was like, man, like, you know, I know knives. 00:47:55.380 --> 00:47:57.480 I made some knives to my older brothers. 00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:01.740 I grew up with knives using them, you know, wilderness survival stuff, and 00:48:01.740 --> 00:48:05.040 uh, the knives and the teams and I was like, man, I should just make some 00:48:05.040 --> 00:48:07.260 knives for my buddies that are still active duty and some of my friends. 00:48:07.260 --> 00:48:10.680 And so I just started studying and, you know, want the best steel nowadays 00:48:10.680 --> 00:48:15.000 for what purpose, you know, looking at grinders, just doing that whole 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:20.100 process and, um, kind of just, you know, got what I needed and started 00:48:20.100 --> 00:48:24.300 doing stuff under the awning in my backyard and, Um, just grew from there. 00:48:24.300 --> 00:48:25.006 What kind of 00:48:25.006 --> 00:48:25.800 Travis Bader: grinders are you using? 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:26.580 Just Andrew Arrabito: personal. 00:48:26.580 --> 00:48:27.120 Oh man. 00:48:27.120 --> 00:48:28.560 I mean, I have a couple. 00:48:28.560 --> 00:48:31.140 My first, my first grinder was just a Beaumont Kmg. 00:48:31.140 --> 00:48:32.220 Yeah. And I still have it. 00:48:32.220 --> 00:48:32.820 It's in back. 00:48:32.820 --> 00:48:33.240 They're good. 00:48:33.240 --> 00:48:33.660 Yeah. 00:48:33.660 --> 00:48:34.200 Yeah. 00:48:34.200 --> 00:48:35.160 Good little grinder. 00:48:35.160 --> 00:48:36.660 I, I have two of those that we do a lot of. 00:48:36.660 --> 00:48:40.230 We still hand grind probably 40% of our knives, so, um, wow. 00:48:40.230 --> 00:48:42.000 That, and I have a lot of Travis Wetz. 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:42.826 Uh, I 00:48:42.826 --> 00:48:43.603 Travis Bader: was gonna ask about them. 00:48:43.603 --> 00:48:44.700 Andrew Arrabito: They're pretty good. 00:48:44.700 --> 00:48:46.020 Yeah. I have about six or seven. 00:48:46.020 --> 00:48:46.680 They amazing. 00:48:46.680 --> 00:48:48.540 Yeah. And Travis is a good guy, man. 00:48:48.540 --> 00:48:49.200 Yeah. 00:48:49.200 --> 00:48:51.300 Like, he's like this engineer minded. 00:48:52.140 --> 00:48:53.914 He's just a, he's very intelligent guy. 00:48:53.914 --> 00:48:56.280 So I have a bunch of those and I forgot what else. 00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:57.120 I have two others. 00:48:57.120 --> 00:48:58.260 I forgot what their names are. 00:48:58.260 --> 00:48:59.100 Any beaters? 00:49:00.780 --> 00:49:01.140 No. Nope. 00:49:01.140 --> 00:49:01.440 Nope. 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:04.740 I beaters They all, they all get, they all get a lot of work on them. 00:49:04.740 --> 00:49:05.446 Yeah. 00:49:05.446 --> 00:49:08.280 Travis Bader: I was looking at a debater only cuz that shares my same last name. 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:10.500 But the Travis works, they've had some back and forth with 00:49:10.500 --> 00:49:11.940 him and I mean, they look good. 00:49:11.940 --> 00:49:14.259 I maybe off air. 00:49:14.259 --> 00:49:15.129 I'll pick your brain a little bit. 00:49:15.129 --> 00:49:16.080 Debaters are good. Andrew Arrabito: Yeah. 00:49:16.080 --> 00:49:16.140 Yeah. 00:49:16.140 --> 00:49:18.060 Those, I mean, they're supposed to be good. 00:49:18.060 --> 00:49:19.800 There's a lot of, a lot of good machines out there. 00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:24.540 Travis Bader: So what did you, what was sort of the biggest takeaway 00:49:24.540 --> 00:49:29.040 from the first business venture that didn't quite go out the way you 00:49:29.040 --> 00:49:31.500 wanted, that you've been able to apply to your future business ventures? 00:49:31.500 --> 00:49:37.620 Andrew Arrabito: Um, you know, one of the biggest things I saw 00:49:37.620 --> 00:49:40.800 originally when I, when of the Brewer distillery, is people just paying 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:42.420 themselves before we are successful. 00:49:42.420 --> 00:49:44.040 Mm. You know what I mean? 00:49:44.040 --> 00:49:46.140 And, um, like, what are you doing? 00:49:46.140 --> 00:49:47.640 Like money needs to go back in that business. 00:49:47.640 --> 00:49:50.340 There's no, there's no promise you're gonna be successful. 00:49:50.340 --> 00:49:54.840 There's no promise that you're not gonna, um, you know, you're gonna make the best. 00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:55.560 There's no prob. 00:49:55.560 --> 00:49:56.400 There's always people better. 00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.140 There's always people, you know. 00:49:58.140 --> 00:50:00.360 It's good to have good ideas and bounce those ideas off 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:01.800 smarter people and better people. 00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:05.640 And then you gotta really enjoy what you do and you want to learn everything 00:50:05.640 --> 00:50:07.200 about it and do really good at it. 00:50:07.200 --> 00:50:09.420 You know, you can't just be like, well, this is the best thing. 00:50:09.420 --> 00:50:11.700 It's gonna, it's gonna take off, it's gonna do good no matter what. 00:50:11.700 --> 00:50:16.800 Like, and then, you know, Like I said, like we're talking about, one of the 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:20.220 biggest things take back was keep that money in the business, you know? 00:50:20.220 --> 00:50:20.640 Mm. 00:50:20.640 --> 00:50:21.600 Keep growing it. 00:50:21.600 --> 00:50:24.240 Keep just putting that back in, putting that back in, putting it into 00:50:24.240 --> 00:50:25.920 a team, putting into your buddies. 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.580 You know, even to this day, uh, we have a few cool little programs 00:50:29.580 --> 00:50:33.000 we do in my shop where we work on some just really beautiful one-off, 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.810 you know, originally, so we take custom orders obviously, um mm-hmm. 00:50:36.810 --> 00:50:39.420 People email and they talk to Kelsey and they, what do you want? 00:50:39.420 --> 00:50:39.660 Blah, blah, blah. 00:50:39.660 --> 00:50:44.520 We get into it and they, but we don't, we used to do these really incredible one-off 00:50:44.520 --> 00:50:48.000 pieces for people and then we'd see six or months later, a year later, two years 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:49.560 later, they'd go for 20, 30,000 bucks. 00:50:49.560 --> 00:50:51.540 And I was like, wow, I sold that for two grand. 00:50:51.540 --> 00:50:52.800 You know what I mean? 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:54.180 And that's awesome for them. 00:50:54.180 --> 00:50:55.080 I'm really happy for them. 00:50:55.080 --> 00:50:58.380 But it kind of came to a point, where're like, Hey, we need to do these ones 00:50:58.380 --> 00:51:02.340 in-house and we need to fair out a way, whether we auction it or do that 00:51:02.340 --> 00:51:05.700 limitation sticker and a giveaway where that money can come back into the guys, 00:51:06.540 --> 00:51:09.300 um, and, and make these guys lives better. 00:51:09.300 --> 00:51:13.980 Obviously if somebody, if, you know, we sold a hundred dollars sticker, you know, 00:51:13.980 --> 00:51:16.140 All those stickers are worth more now too. 00:51:16.140 --> 00:51:18.780 So not only can you resell that sticker for a hundred bucks, you 00:51:18.780 --> 00:51:20.070 can make 20 bucks off or 40 bucks. 00:51:20.070 --> 00:51:21.480 Mm-hmm. Off or 50 bucks off it. 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.840 And the one person who got that Tom Hawk can make 25,000 off it. 00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:27.000 So everybody wins in the end and that money comes back. 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.660 So when we do these one-offs and I have my main top guys, we say, Hey, 00:51:30.660 --> 00:51:31.860 let's do, let's do another project. 00:51:31.860 --> 00:51:32.760 Let's work on this. 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.280 So those guys will work on stuff throughout, while we're 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:36.000 working on everything else. 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:40.800 You know, let's say it goes for 25 grand, take 10% of that, and I 00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:43.500 pull cash out and, you know, hook the guys up, they've worked on it. 00:51:43.500 --> 00:51:44.640 Cool little thing there. 00:51:44.640 --> 00:51:48.660 And then we take 20% for charities from there, and then the rasco into 00:51:48.660 --> 00:51:50.280 account and we pay for bonuses. 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.731 Pay half of everybody's healthcare in the shop with that. 00:51:52.731 --> 00:51:52.736 Nice. 00:51:52.736 --> 00:51:55.740 Um, you know, a movie comes out, we went to theater out and everybody 00:51:55.740 --> 00:51:57.000 goes and watches a movie together. 00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.960 Uh, we have money put aside for, you know, if somebody gets in a little car 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:02.880 wreck and needs help there, a new vehicle. 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:04.980 And we need to help somebody get a little down payment to 00:52:04.980 --> 00:52:05.940 get a better interest rate. 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:11.700 You know, we, I want that going back to the guys and put value, more 00:52:11.700 --> 00:52:15.300 value than just their paycheck into the business they're working in. 00:52:15.300 --> 00:52:16.200 You know, 00:52:16.200 --> 00:52:18.720 Travis Bader: that's pretty amazing. 00:52:18.720 --> 00:52:23.280 Like you've, you've done a lot to create a, a strong team culture within 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:28.800 your company, and it seems like, uh, you have a bit of a guiding light. 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.920 And I, I look at people who have businesses that don't kind of know 00:52:33.180 --> 00:52:34.920 what their value proposition is. 00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:38.040 They can't say it in a very short and succinct way, or they don't have 00:52:38.040 --> 00:52:42.780 something that, uh, they can use to measure whether they, like, for 00:52:42.780 --> 00:52:47.940 example, if, if your guiding light is to provide, uh, top quality and this 00:52:47.940 --> 00:52:50.940 type of knife or whatever it might be, anything that doesn't meet that 00:52:50.940 --> 00:52:52.260 threshold, you don't even have to look at. 00:52:52.260 --> 00:52:52.620 It's easy. 00:52:52.620 --> 00:52:53.100 It's out. 00:52:53.100 --> 00:52:54.660 You have a very clear kind of path. 00:52:54.660 --> 00:53:00.000 What is your sort of north star with, with half face? 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:07.200 Andrew Arrabito: Uh, honestly providing, provide, you know, uh, Outside of 00:53:07.200 --> 00:53:12.360 the obvious of, of providing, you know, quality tools, um, to people 00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.940 and things that, you know, and tools that are really meaningful, you know, 00:53:14.940 --> 00:53:16.440 like using people's ashes and stuff. 00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:20.310 But as an overall arching, you know, company, I wanna provide, uh, 00:53:20.310 --> 00:53:23.760 I wanna provide a good life, you know, for these guys who work here. 00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:25.260 I wanna provide a good life for myself. 00:53:25.260 --> 00:53:29.040 I wanna provide a good life for my fans, my friends and my family, 00:53:29.040 --> 00:53:35.820 and my mother and my sister, and be able to be, uh, a huge asset in the 00:53:35.820 --> 00:53:38.040 people I love, uh, in their lives. 00:53:38.700 --> 00:53:41.280 And I want these guys to be able, I want these guys to be able to, 00:53:42.120 --> 00:53:44.520 you know, career development. 00:53:44.520 --> 00:53:47.040 You know, there's, there's not a lot of positions right now for guys 00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:49.260 to step up in, in, in the shop. 00:53:49.860 --> 00:53:51.360 They, I still want them. 00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:55.800 So even in my shop career development wise, if guy, you know, somewhere in 00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:59.400 the teams I went to, like free running schools and cool stuff like that. 00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:02.940 And it was like, Hey, if this school is gonna help you be better at your 00:54:02.940 --> 00:54:06.780 job in here, I'm like, you know, go take a class and we'll pay for it. 00:54:06.780 --> 00:54:10.620 You know, like you guys, you know, some of the guys, you 00:54:10.620 --> 00:54:11.820 know, wanna learn scuba diving. 00:54:11.820 --> 00:54:12.600 So I'm like, all right, cool. 00:54:12.600 --> 00:54:14.640 Let's, I'll pay for you to learn scuba diving. 00:54:14.640 --> 00:54:15.540 And that's even outside work. 00:54:15.540 --> 00:54:19.140 It's not making better work, but it's, it's really, uh, personal growth. 00:54:19.140 --> 00:54:19.620 Yeah. 00:54:19.620 --> 00:54:23.220 You know, and what's it cost, you know, a thousand bucks to, you know, here's 00:54:23.220 --> 00:54:25.920 a thousand dollars bonus, I'm gonna pay for you to go to scuba diving. 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:26.940 That's if guys wanna do that. 00:54:26.940 --> 00:54:27.180 Awesome. 00:54:27.180 --> 00:54:30.660 Guys, you know, that's amazing too, guys to enjoy life. 00:54:30.660 --> 00:54:31.130 Yeah. 00:54:31.130 --> 00:54:33.960 You know, I don't wanna just, some, some, you know, it's an, 00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:35.760 it's an already an awesome shot. 00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:39.870 What more can you do, you know, to be happy and develop your own, own 00:54:39.870 --> 00:54:41.940 self and enjoy life outside of work? 00:54:41.940 --> 00:54:46.080 Travis Bader: You know, they oftentimes it's quoted that 00:54:46.080 --> 00:54:47.460 money is the root of all evil. 00:54:47.460 --> 00:54:50.820 And I think the correct quote was, uh, the coves love of 00:54:50.820 --> 00:54:53.160 money is the, uh, root of evil. 00:54:53.160 --> 00:54:54.660 I Andrew Arrabito: am an agreement. 00:54:54.660 --> 00:54:57.930 I think money can buy time to an extent, right? 00:54:57.930 --> 00:54:58.200 Mm-hmm. 00:54:58.200 --> 00:55:01.920 So I have time, you know, these guys have time. 00:55:03.060 --> 00:55:08.220 Um, with that money that we work, uh, we work and make, goes back in the business. 00:55:08.220 --> 00:55:09.480 We have a team. 00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.260 I am able to, you know, support my mom a little more. 00:55:13.260 --> 00:55:15.060 I'm able to go on these hunting trips. 00:55:15.060 --> 00:55:17.520 I'm able to buy some time with those I love the most. 00:55:18.060 --> 00:55:21.960 So I'm not stuck, you know, driving two and a half hours to work eight 00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:24.720 hours, two and a half hours home, like in LA for that extra buck. 00:55:24.720 --> 00:55:26.160 But where's my time in the gym? 00:55:26.160 --> 00:55:26.940 Where's my time outside? 00:55:26.940 --> 00:55:28.080 Where's my time with my kids? 00:55:28.080 --> 00:55:29.640 Where's my time with my family? 00:55:29.640 --> 00:55:30.900 You know, stuff like that. 00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:33.120 So, How old are your kids? 00:55:33.120 --> 00:55:35.460 I'm, I'm saying my kids as in general, I don't have any. 00:55:35.460 --> 00:55:36.046 Okay, okay. 00:55:36.046 --> 00:55:37.620 Travis Bader: Cause I didn't think I was like, oh, no, 00:55:37.620 --> 00:55:38.216 Andrew Arrabito: no, no, no, bing. 00:55:38.216 --> 00:55:41.520 I'm just, you know, overall arching of Gotcha, gotcha. 00:55:41.520 --> 00:55:44.520 People to look at, you know, time with those you love has gotta be 00:55:44.520 --> 00:55:45.600 the most valuable thing we have. 00:55:45.600 --> 00:55:52.800 Travis Bader: I, I see that as the thing that I, I really respect in people who can 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.080 identify that as their number one driver. 00:55:55.080 --> 00:55:59.280 Uh, I've always had that as a driver for myself and in my businesses. 00:56:00.420 --> 00:56:01.560 I don't care about the money. 00:56:01.560 --> 00:56:06.600 Money will come if you provide a good quality product and you're providing a 00:56:06.600 --> 00:56:08.700 good service and it's desirable by people. 00:56:08.700 --> 00:56:09.060 Yep. 00:56:09.060 --> 00:56:14.220 I care about the adventure of building it and the ability to spend my days 00:56:14.220 --> 00:56:18.780 and my time in a way that's going to be enjoyable and Absolutely. 00:56:18.780 --> 00:56:19.527 And those people around 00:56:19.527 --> 00:56:21.780 Andrew Arrabito: look, put that, you know, look at, look, we talked about, 00:56:22.380 --> 00:56:24.300 um, how you don't quite underst. 00:56:24.300 --> 00:56:27.300 Uh, what you do for others and impression you have on others. 00:56:27.300 --> 00:56:29.400 Like just with half face alone, it's a tool at the end of the 00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:33.360 day, for me, it's a tool and we've built so many cool friendships and 00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:35.100 relationships through just knives. 00:56:35.100 --> 00:56:36.360 You know what I mean? 00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:39.840 Uh, with the Hfv enthusiast group gets together and they hunt every year and they 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:44.640 bring guys in and help them learn how to shoot and cut up animals and like, uh, the 00:56:44.640 --> 00:56:46.920 fishing and these guys have built outside. 00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:49.440 They've just supported half us have so much gratitude. 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:50.640 That's the other thing you gotta have. 00:56:50.640 --> 00:56:52.950 They have so much gratitude and they're like, look what you've done. 00:56:52.950 --> 00:56:55.200 And I'm like, me, look what you guys done. 00:56:55.200 --> 00:56:58.440 You've valued this company so much and put much effort and time and money, 00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:02.100 and you've built, you know, you've built friendships with other people 00:57:02.100 --> 00:57:05.760 that you share in common with that love this brand that support this band too. 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.560 And look at what you're doing for the guys in my shop. 00:57:07.560 --> 00:57:09.240 So we have so much g. 00:57:09.240 --> 00:57:15.420 It's so cool to see this, this, this second, you know, this second group of 00:57:15.420 --> 00:57:18.660 people that support the brand, becoming friends and raising money for people 00:57:18.660 --> 00:57:19.800 and raising money for foundations. 00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:19.980 Wow. 00:57:19.980 --> 00:57:23.160 And a guy gets in trouble, they help him, A guy can't get a knife and they 00:57:23.160 --> 00:57:28.440 give him a knife and they buy and sell and trade and create this, um, you know, 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:34.740 this whole other group of excellence and friendship and, and just, just 00:57:34.740 --> 00:57:37.066 from a, a tool company, how did Half 00:57:37.066 --> 00:57:37.423 Travis Bader: Face, 00:57:37.423 --> 00:57:38.220 Andrew Arrabito: oh, go on. 00:57:38.220 --> 00:57:38.460 Sorry. 00:57:38.460 --> 00:57:41.617 No, I was just saying like, I gotta have so much gratitude for that and 00:57:41.617 --> 00:57:43.770 Travis Bader: for that. Yeah, totally. 00:57:43.770 --> 00:57:46.020 How, how did you come up with the name Half Face Blades? 00:57:46.020 --> 00:57:51.240 Andrew Arrabito: Um, well I used to paint my face half black and a few ops overseas. 00:57:52.080 --> 00:57:56.820 Um, and then, uh, you know, speak softly and carry a big stick and then 00:57:56.820 --> 00:57:58.320 see another that's your other half. 00:57:58.320 --> 00:57:58.860 Gotcha. 00:57:58.860 --> 00:58:01.320 Might not be a big stick, you know, but a lot of people, when you first 00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:04.620 get to know somebody, you know just a little bit of them and you 00:58:04.620 --> 00:58:05.940 get to know their other half and. 00:58:05.940 --> 00:58:08.460 You know, not that it's a bad half or a violent half. 00:58:08.460 --> 00:58:11.460 Doesn't have to be that, but you know, that's what he, the duality. 00:58:11.460 --> 00:58:13.440 Travis Bader: Correct. 00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:14.100 Yes sir. 00:58:14.100 --> 00:58:16.020 The yin, the yang love the big stick one. 00:58:16.020 --> 00:58:16.500 Would Dr. 00:58:16.500 --> 00:58:19.260 Seuss say, I've heard there's troubles of more than one kind. 00:58:19.260 --> 00:58:21.060 Some come from a head, some come from behind. 00:58:21.060 --> 00:58:22.020 But I've got a big stick. 00:58:22.020 --> 00:58:24.660 I'm already, you see now many troubles are gonna have troubles with me. 00:58:24.660 --> 00:58:25.560 I dunno. 00:58:25.560 --> 00:58:26.340 That's always gonna so good. 00:58:26.340 --> 00:58:27.360 Stuck with me. 00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:28.500 So good. 00:58:28.500 --> 00:58:30.120 Um, so you just came back from a fishing trip. 00:58:30.120 --> 00:58:31.380 I'm curious about that one. 00:58:31.380 --> 00:58:35.400 I came back from hunting my, my first hunt for access deer in, in the States. 00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:36.120 Oh yeah. 00:58:36.120 --> 00:58:38.400 And, uh, did a little bit of spear fishing. 00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:39.420 I wanna hear about your spear. 00:58:39.420 --> 00:58:41.100 Andrew Arrabito: That was a great trip. 00:58:41.100 --> 00:58:43.680 There's a, a company, kinetic spear fishing. 00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:45.660 Uh, a guy is still active duty. 00:58:45.660 --> 00:58:50.220 Uh, him and another guy just got out, moved to, uh, Montana, and they 00:58:50.220 --> 00:58:54.900 build really, really cool, really killer fishing, uh, spear guns. 00:58:54.900 --> 00:58:55.200 Mm-hmm. 00:58:55.200 --> 00:58:59.280 And, and the guy himself is like a really, really credible, I mean, you know, if 00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:02.280 I'm spear fishing for a while, I get some good dives in for some good time. 00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:06.480 But, uh, I mean, this trip he was diving, you know, 70, 80 feet. 00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:07.440 Yeah. 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:08.220 You know, down. 00:59:08.220 --> 00:59:11.520 And I, I think my longest, my deepest dive was probably 45 or so. 00:59:11.520 --> 00:59:12.240 And I did. That's good. 00:59:12.240 --> 00:59:14.040 I did like a 43 for a minute. 00:59:14.040 --> 00:59:18.060 My longest one, I did like a 20 foot for two minutes and nine seconds, you know. 00:59:18.060 --> 00:59:18.651 That's good. 00:59:18.651 --> 00:59:21.480 But, uh, the bigger an, you know, the bigger fish are a little deeper. 00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:22.980 Um, really incredible trip. 00:59:22.980 --> 00:59:24.180 You know, there's another guy. 00:59:25.140 --> 00:59:27.360 He retired, another team guy went on the trip. 00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:32.580 Um, there was some random guys that at Spearfished that the guy Blake knows from 00:59:32.580 --> 00:59:37.440 around the country from Texas, another guy from here, uh, that, the guy from 00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:39.180 Northern California as well that flew in. 00:59:39.180 --> 00:59:42.840 We met and flew down to Panama, off of Panama. 00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:44.040 There's little islands. 00:59:44.040 --> 00:59:47.940 There's, uh, koa, which is a, a state, well, it's a protected area. 00:59:47.940 --> 00:59:49.260 That's, we didn't dive there. 00:59:49.260 --> 00:59:50.340 Obviously it's not allowed. 00:59:50.340 --> 00:59:50.580 Right. 00:59:50.580 --> 00:59:54.540 But you go past that way out to uh, uh, a little island. 00:59:54.540 --> 00:59:55.500 Tiny, tiny little island. 00:59:55.500 --> 00:59:56.760 No one lives there whatsoever. 00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.460 It's, I don't know how many acres, but you can drive around at, 00:59:59.460 --> 01:00:01.980 you know, in about 30 minutes. 01:00:03.240 --> 01:00:03.630 Um, sweet. 01:00:03.630 --> 01:00:04.680 Such an incredible place. 01:00:04.680 --> 01:00:08.220 And, you know, we went out there, they had a whole, whole crew, three boats, 01:00:08.220 --> 01:00:12.240 you know, the, the locals that drove the boats and the, they, some of those 01:00:12.240 --> 01:00:16.920 guys dive and we catch the fish during the day or dive for lobster and cook 'em 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:18.300 at night and start again the next day. 01:00:18.300 --> 01:00:19.320 Wow. 01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:19.860 Incredible. 01:00:19.860 --> 01:00:22.380 Saw, you know, saw a bunch of sharks. 01:00:22.380 --> 01:00:22.980 They were all small ones. 01:00:22.980 --> 01:00:26.640 One of the guys was diving and he, I guess he just kind of felt like 01:00:26.640 --> 01:00:29.700 something was looking at him and he was down at like 30 feet and turning. 01:00:29.700 --> 01:00:32.520 There was a 12 foot, uh, hammer head, and it was kind of following. 01:00:32.520 --> 01:00:33.597 And it came, it turned, went by him. 01:00:33.597 --> 01:00:36.420 It turned, came straight toward him, then took off and went away. 01:00:36.420 --> 01:00:40.200 And, uh, I was diving over my buddy and uh, maybe a four and a half at, uh, 01:00:40.200 --> 01:00:43.920 white tip was following him and it was getting a little close, so I went and 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:45.300 poked it on the head and it took off. 01:00:45.300 --> 01:00:51.120 And, but I mean, I diving, you know, I don't dive a whole lot here, but getting 01:00:51.120 --> 01:00:54.480 out and diving again, I've done it quite a bit in the past, which I really loved. 01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:57.540 Like diving in Fiji and diving in Moray a little island off Tahiti. 01:00:57.540 --> 01:01:02.520 Uh, man, that it's something I dove vehicle in Collibra off of Puerto Rico. 01:01:02.520 --> 01:01:03.360 Why? Incredible. 01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:05.220 Like I fall in love with it again. 01:01:05.220 --> 01:01:09.240 Every time I go, you know, man, but I am scared of sharks the entire time. 01:01:09.240 --> 01:01:09.960 Are you really? 01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:10.906 Absolutely. 01:01:10.906 --> 01:01:11.520 Travis Bader: Yeah. 01:01:11.520 --> 01:01:14.040 Always in the back of the head looking over your shoulder 01:01:14.040 --> 01:01:14.923 every time you go down there. 01:01:14.923 --> 01:01:16.666 Andrew Arrabito: Always like every two seconds 01:01:16.666 --> 01:01:20.100 Travis Bader: just watch a clip of somebody, uh, jumping in the water. 01:01:20.100 --> 01:01:22.740 And I think it was a great white just came out and they're Oh, yeah. 01:01:22.740 --> 01:01:23.820 Coming up back of the boat. 01:01:23.820 --> 01:01:25.140 Yeah, you saw that one, eh? 01:01:25.140 --> 01:01:25.723 Yeah. 01:01:25.723 --> 01:01:27.000 Andrew Arrabito: But no thanks. 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:27.646 Yeah, 01:01:27.646 --> 01:01:31.560 Travis Bader: no, I, I just turned my brain off when I'm down there about 01:01:31.560 --> 01:01:34.260 the sharks and I just assumed that if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. 01:01:34.260 --> 01:01:34.963 It's kinda like 01:01:34.963 --> 01:01:35.460 Andrew Arrabito: bears. 01:01:35.460 --> 01:01:37.440 I'd assume it's gonna happen to somebody else. 01:01:37.980 --> 01:01:39.660 Travis Bader: And you know what? 01:01:39.660 --> 01:01:42.960 With that mindset, whatever it is, it usually does, doesn't it? 01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:43.800 I don't know what it is. 01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:45.360 You put that vibe out there. 01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:46.860 Andrew Arrabito: Yeah. I don't know, man. 01:01:46.860 --> 01:01:48.180 It's, yeah. 01:01:48.180 --> 01:01:51.900 I mean, I'd rather be out, like I'm more comfortable with a rifle 01:01:51.900 --> 01:01:53.220 out in the middle of bear country. 01:01:53.220 --> 01:01:54.540 Yeah. 01:01:54.540 --> 01:01:56.100 You know, a spear gun. 01:01:57.120 --> 01:01:59.700 With an animal that weighs way more than a bear. 01:01:59.700 --> 01:02:01.290 And that's all you got, like mm-hmm. 01:02:01.290 --> 01:02:04.440 One shot with a spear gun just pisses off at least with a good shot with 01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:05.594 a big rifle, he is going down with 01:02:05.594 --> 01:02:05.615 Travis Bader: a bear. 01:02:05.615 --> 01:02:05.640 Yep. You know what I mean? 01:02:05.640 --> 01:02:09.360 You got any hunts lined up this year? 01:02:10.200 --> 01:02:12.120 Andrew Arrabito: Um, yeah. 01:02:12.120 --> 01:02:15.240 Caribou in the fall with my buddy Matt DeLuca, lives in Anchorage. 01:02:15.240 --> 01:02:16.200 Just incredible outdoors man. 01:02:16.200 --> 01:02:20.040 One of my best friends now last two years, been going up to Alaska with 01:02:20.040 --> 01:02:24.720 him and going out and, and, uh, hunting nine, 10 days out and just way 01:02:24.720 --> 01:02:26.220 back Countrying, the Alaskan range. 01:02:26.220 --> 01:02:27.600 Really incredible man. 01:02:27.600 --> 01:02:29.700 It's Alaska's one of my favorite places on earth. 01:02:29.700 --> 01:02:33.900 Travis Bader: Thinking about the Alaska one, it kind of brings 01:02:33.900 --> 01:02:35.820 us full circle to where we're talking about at the beginning. 01:02:36.660 --> 01:02:39.960 Uh, if I understand correctly, there was a fellow in a villager that 01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:42.300 was having dreams and he was, yeah. 01:02:42.300 --> 01:02:45.975 Did you ever find out what those dreams were about or what, what he was, uh, 01:02:45.975 --> 01:02:51.240 Andrew Arrabito: So the guy was, uh, Mank and um, that's who my dad was 01:02:51.240 --> 01:02:52.680 up there interviewing that village. 01:02:52.680 --> 01:02:55.620 I don't think he was alive when I think he had died, probably previous, 01:02:55.620 --> 01:02:56.880 before my dad went up there. 01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:59.820 But he was having these visions of just how to live better and healthier. 01:02:59.820 --> 01:03:02.460 And that village was living, you know, 20 years longer. 01:03:02.460 --> 01:03:04.440 And that was kind of a interesting thing up there. 01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:09.060 Why, you know, well all these villages, you know, I'm not sure what the mortality 01:03:09.060 --> 01:03:11.700 rate was, or not mortality, but, you know, old age dying rate, that's mortality rate. 01:03:11.700 --> 01:03:13.140 I can't think. 01:03:13.140 --> 01:03:15.600 But it was like, um, you know, 50 to sixties and these people 01:03:15.600 --> 01:03:17.100 were, you know, 70 to eighties. 01:03:17.100 --> 01:03:21.360 I wanna do a little documentary on that, which was kind of cool, but I haven't 01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:23.760 been out there, out in the middle of nowhere where that little village was. 01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:25.560 Hmm. It's up on the coast somewhere. 01:03:25.560 --> 01:03:30.000 You know, one, one of the biggest goals I have, which I wanted to do it, you know, 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.880 last year wasn't able to, uh, this year. 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:33.960 Sorry about that. 01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:36.120 Of course. 01:03:36.120 --> 01:03:36.840 Okay. All good. 01:03:38.160 --> 01:03:43.620 Um, this year, I'm not sure if I'll have time, um, but I wanna get the prop off 01:03:43.620 --> 01:03:46.380 the airplane that's up in the mountains, which would be really cool to do. 01:03:46.380 --> 01:03:47.580 Still up there, eh? 01:03:47.580 --> 01:03:49.020 Yeah, still up there. 01:03:49.020 --> 01:03:51.360 I went up there, uh, I go up in June. 01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:55.500 There's a really good, uh, it's a five one three now called Arctic Guardian. 01:03:55.500 --> 01:03:55.830 Mm. 01:03:55.830 --> 01:03:57.300 This guy James Drayton runs out. 01:03:57.300 --> 01:04:01.620 I go up, uh, they invited me up last year and kind of help set up a Carine course. 01:04:01.620 --> 01:04:06.540 So all the guys like law enforcement, fbi, swat, you know, the Army guys up there. 01:04:06.540 --> 01:04:09.240 It's uh, they're all invited for this one day. 01:04:09.240 --> 01:04:13.020 And there's, we set up some sniper stuff, carbing and Pistol, and it's competition. 01:04:13.020 --> 01:04:16.080 And there's a bunch of companies get involved and give away gear to 01:04:16.080 --> 01:04:19.260 winners and everybody involved and it supports all those guys up there. 01:04:19.260 --> 01:04:20.640 So we're, we do that every year. 01:04:20.640 --> 01:04:22.980 Wow. It's called the Arctic, Arctic Guardian. 01:04:22.980 --> 01:04:24.120 If guys wanna look it up. 01:04:24.120 --> 01:04:24.840 Really cool. 01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:27.480 Um, they always need as much support as. 01:04:28.260 --> 01:04:28.920 Totally. 01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:30.000 So I'm going up there again. 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:31.500 That's in June. 01:04:31.500 --> 01:04:34.680 We went last June and we went out to see if we could see the crash 01:04:34.680 --> 01:04:35.640 that it was still covered in snow. 01:04:35.640 --> 01:04:37.380 So I think I'm gonna have to go later in the year. 01:04:37.980 --> 01:04:38.820 Try to get that. 01:04:38.820 --> 01:04:40.006 Well, I'll get 01:04:40.006 --> 01:04:43.860 Travis Bader: some links up of course, to your business and your company and 01:04:43.860 --> 01:04:45.660 social where people can find out more. 01:04:45.660 --> 01:04:48.540 And Arctic Guardian, I'm gonna have to look that up and see what opened. 01:04:48.540 --> 01:04:49.783 Some really 01:04:49.783 --> 01:04:51.120 Andrew Arrabito: good, really good guys. 01:04:51.120 --> 01:04:52.020 Really good people. 01:04:52.020 --> 01:04:53.386 And it, it's just a good program. 01:04:53.386 --> 01:04:56.400 Travis Bader: I know we kind of jumped around a little bit here, but is 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:58.860 there anything that we haven't talked about that we should talk about? 01:04:58.860 --> 01:05:03.720 Andrew Arrabito: I don't know, man. 01:05:03.720 --> 01:05:07.020 You know, as long as we're having fun business life business, yeah. 01:05:07.020 --> 01:05:12.480 I mean we got, you know, I got the ammo company with my very close friend, Ryan. 01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:13.800 Ryan Bats really good. 01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:15.000 Just one of my best friends ever. 01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:16.500 Uh, working on that. 01:05:16.500 --> 01:05:20.460 Working on a new, with another guy Bill Cant retired, team guy. 01:05:20.460 --> 01:05:24.300 And Johnny Leblanc, another retired team guy working on a new, um, Kind 01:05:24.300 --> 01:05:26.220 of a search engine for ammo as well. 01:05:26.220 --> 01:05:29.700 That's kind of, there's a, you know, there's manufacturers and there's buying 01:05:29.700 --> 01:05:32.040 groups, and then there's two middlemen, and then there's a wholesaler and 01:05:32.040 --> 01:05:35.520 retailers, and there's just, people always want their cut and people at the end 01:05:35.520 --> 01:05:36.720 of the day don't get the best pricing. 01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:40.980 And so we're working on a way to get people closer to a 01:05:40.980 --> 01:05:42.360 manufacturer and better pricing. 01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:44.040 Travis Bader: Oh, that's brilliant. 01:05:44.040 --> 01:05:48.240 That's sort of like the, the Shark Tank guy who did it with, uh, medicine. 01:05:48.240 --> 01:05:49.740 Have you heard of that one? 01:05:49.740 --> 01:05:54.300 Uh, uh, I, so somebody here, I'm sure will correct me if I get this totally off base, 01:05:54.300 --> 01:06:00.060 but from my understanding, one of the guys from Shark Tank, uh, has set up a, um, 01:06:00.060 --> 01:06:05.160 pharmaceutical supply company where they have relationships with the manufacturers 01:06:05.160 --> 01:06:10.560 and they only charge whatever that drug is, plus whatever percent. 01:06:10.560 --> 01:06:12.300 It's like plus 4%, right? 01:06:12.300 --> 01:06:15.900 Whatever It is incredible for people, massive for the world. 01:06:15.900 --> 01:06:17.203 Massive in absolutely 01:06:17.203 --> 01:06:18.090 Andrew Arrabito: the buried entry. 01:06:18.090 --> 01:06:18.960 And that's how it should be. 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:19.860 That's how it should be like. 01:06:20.460 --> 01:06:24.420 You know, not that, you know, there's whole series and retailers, they gotta 01:06:24.420 --> 01:06:28.020 have something, you know, and you gotta have, there's just been, you know, with 01:06:28.020 --> 01:06:31.440 the ammo company we've had just, you know, from manufacturers, and there's 01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:34.560 certain people that only have those relationships and they keep them. 01:06:34.560 --> 01:06:36.660 And they'll come into with six, seven, 8 million bucks, and then 01:06:36.660 --> 01:06:39.840 they'll hold it and they'll release some, and then they'll really just 01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:41.280 control, try to control everything. 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:44.160 And they're, and you have, and then you have the guys selling, you have 01:06:44.160 --> 01:06:48.420 like four people between these to the, even the retailer that want 01:06:48.420 --> 01:06:50.760 their, you know, 2 cents to 5 cents. 01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:54.300 And now the retailer is the one with the brick and mortar, with 01:06:54.300 --> 01:06:55.500 the insurance, with the employees. 01:06:56.340 --> 01:07:01.140 And now he needs really to make, you know, you know, 10, 15 cents around. 01:07:01.140 --> 01:07:06.060 And, and now he can't charge that because the, the customer itself, 01:07:06.060 --> 01:07:09.600 the guy needing the ammo to shoot it is like, I can't pay that much. 01:07:09.600 --> 01:07:10.140 Right. 01:07:10.140 --> 01:07:15.420 You know, so we, we are working on this, this way that guys get to skip 01:07:15.420 --> 01:07:18.000 a few middlemen, greedy middlemen, 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:21.840 Travis Bader: you know, I, I was hearing you talk about, and it was, 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:23.340 it was an interesting perspective. 01:07:23.340 --> 01:07:26.100 If you own your own business, you're gonna have people with their handout 01:07:26.100 --> 01:07:28.860 and people are always gonna be like, well, what can you do for us? 01:07:28.860 --> 01:07:31.620 We've got a charity, we've got this, we've got whatever it might be. 01:07:31.620 --> 01:07:33.120 We've got a special interest group. 01:07:33.120 --> 01:07:36.240 And you started to take a little bit of a different approach, at least 01:07:36.240 --> 01:07:39.300 at the beginning of your, of your business and how you dealt with this. 01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:40.740 Can you tell me a bit about that? 01:07:40.740 --> 01:07:44.160 Andrew Arrabito: Um, are you talking about like, wow, like every other day starting 01:07:44.160 --> 01:07:48.060 out like foundations just wanted free stuff, which Listen, I, I'm not blaming 01:07:48.060 --> 01:07:49.500 foundations because that's what they do. 01:07:49.500 --> 01:07:53.400 They get product auction it and it raises, you know, for good cause. 01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:58.140 But it was like, you know, it did seem a lot that no one cared about the person 01:07:58.140 --> 01:08:01.860 trying to start their own business or, you know, when it comes to my background being 01:08:01.860 --> 01:08:06.720 a veteran, you know, disabled veteran 10, 11 years, starting their own business. 01:08:06.720 --> 01:08:08.520 Everybody wanted free stuff. 01:08:08.520 --> 01:08:13.500 And I was like, what about the guys like me are out there getting out, you know, 01:08:13.500 --> 01:08:17.420 all over the military that are trying to start something, you know, support 'em. 01:08:17.420 --> 01:08:19.020 Um, So I won. 01:08:19.020 --> 01:08:20.160 I mean, I just start saying no. 01:08:20.160 --> 01:08:20.520 Mm. 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:22.740 And then, you know, some of them that I was really close to with 01:08:22.740 --> 01:08:24.000 close buddies, I did what they could. 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.640 And then I was doing like, you know, 50% off. 01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:31.440 And then some of those, you know, good, good guys who had those foundations like, 01:08:31.440 --> 01:08:35.100 no, we want, we wanna pay full price because the knives are going for two 01:08:35.100 --> 01:08:36.300 or three times the full price anyway. 01:08:36.300 --> 01:08:36.780 Mm. 01:08:36.780 --> 01:08:39.240 You know, when they Oxygen, I'm gonna go to foundation events. 01:08:39.240 --> 01:08:43.680 So a lot of those, you know, people like, um, you know, whether seal, 01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:46.800 future Foundation, stuff like that, and I, I'm in a position I don't 01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:49.260 want people to be like, oh, that's, you know, I'm kind of messed up. 01:08:49.260 --> 01:08:51.720 But I'm in a position now when the business has grown that I'm able to 01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:55.440 support a lot more foundations and donate, you know, free stuff here and there. 01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:01.620 Um, but you know, People like, uh, folds of honor, they'll, you know, generally 01:09:01.620 --> 01:09:05.160 they're buying 50 knives a year of really beautiful customs, and they're 01:09:05.160 --> 01:09:06.240 like, no, we wanna play full price. 01:09:06.240 --> 01:09:10.020 So it, it comes back to the business, you know, like a little bit of profit on it. 01:09:10.020 --> 01:09:12.900 But you gotta think of all the, I have half my guys are veterans, right. 01:09:12.900 --> 01:09:16.200 You know, like, take care of the businesses, buy two. 01:09:16.200 --> 01:09:16.550 Right. 01:09:16.550 --> 01:09:19.620 You know, don't ask for a discount, you know, and I do that, like people, 01:09:19.620 --> 01:09:22.500 people hit me up and offer like, Hey, I wanna send you some hats and 01:09:22.500 --> 01:09:23.880 shirts or, or something like that. 01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:24.600 I'm like, dude, chill. 01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:25.740 Like, how about this? 01:09:25.740 --> 01:09:27.480 Like, I'll get on and I'll order stuff. 01:09:27.480 --> 01:09:27.960 Mm-hmm. 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:30.840 You know, and, and that just doesn't just mean veteran owned businesses. 01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:32.700 Like these are just other small businesses in general. 01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:37.380 I'm like, the other day there's, there's, um, a couple that's bought eyes before 01:09:37.380 --> 01:09:42.720 and they have some businesses out east and, um, She makes sourdough bread, and 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:45.360 actually it reminds me of another buddy in northern California makes sourdough bread 01:09:45.360 --> 01:09:48.420 and a couple times a year, like I'll see the Instagram pop up and I'm like, cool. 01:09:48.420 --> 01:09:51.300 Hey, can I order 35 loaves of sourdough? 01:09:51.300 --> 01:09:52.860 And, uh, like, I don't care. 01:09:52.860 --> 01:09:54.120 Shipping don't care the cost. 01:09:54.120 --> 01:09:58.020 Like, you know, if he makes some money, I'm happy and, you know, we'll get a bunch 01:09:58.020 --> 01:10:01.860 of boxes of sourdough here and two days later and handle lofa bread out to all 01:10:01.860 --> 01:10:03.300 the guys in the shop to eat that weekend. 01:10:03.300 --> 01:10:04.080 You know what I mean? 01:10:04.080 --> 01:10:06.900 It's, I, it's fun to be able to give that back and support those 01:10:06.900 --> 01:10:09.212 small businesses, uh, financially. 01:10:09.212 --> 01:10:09.219 Know I, 01:10:09.219 --> 01:10:12.480 Travis Bader: there, there's a number of things here that I'm looking at that I 01:10:12.480 --> 01:10:16.920 see in other successful entrepreneurs, and if you're to try to distill it, um, 01:10:17.700 --> 01:10:19.560 you know, it's a passion for what you do. 01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:21.600 It's clear, it comes out in what you're doing here. 01:10:22.980 --> 01:10:28.080 Um, your, the office will often say, you know what, Trav, I, I know when, 01:10:28.080 --> 01:10:31.140 uh, I know who, who your friends are and who they aren't, right? 01:10:31.140 --> 01:10:32.580 I'm like, oh yeah, how's that? 01:10:32.580 --> 01:10:35.100 Because people will call up and they say, Hey, I'm Travis's friend 01:10:35.100 --> 01:10:36.120 and I'm looking for a discount. 01:10:36.120 --> 01:10:36.660 Right? 01:10:36.660 --> 01:10:40.200 And, uh, And the office says, well, why don't you just call Travis? 01:10:40.200 --> 01:10:40.680 Right? 01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:43.260 And they say, okay, I, I know your friends. 01:10:43.260 --> 01:10:46.260 Because they'll show up on the back end and they just, they just pay 01:10:46.260 --> 01:10:47.880 full price and they buy things. 01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:48.210 Yeah. 01:10:48.210 --> 01:10:51.300 I would give it to 'em for free, but they never ask of that. 01:10:51.300 --> 01:10:52.560 Right. Andrew Arrabito: Yeah. 01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:54.300 You know, I, I have a problem with that. 01:10:54.300 --> 01:10:55.620 I'm always like, oh, man. 01:10:55.620 --> 01:10:58.080 Like I don't, I know I don't deal with the money side of the 01:10:58.080 --> 01:10:59.040 business cuz I don't like that. 01:10:59.040 --> 01:11:01.126 That feels like I'm taking, you know what I mean? 01:11:01.126 --> 01:11:01.980 Right. I don't want to give so much. 01:11:01.980 --> 01:11:02.460 Right. 01:11:02.460 --> 01:11:05.040 You know, but I, I got some pit bulls here at work, you know, 01:11:05.040 --> 01:11:08.460 like Kelsey that runs the office here, she's a, she's like, no way. 01:11:08.460 --> 01:11:10.920 And she, I mean, to the point where we'll make a knife in the 01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:12.960 back or I'll make a knife and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna keep this. 01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:13.980 And she's like, no, you're not. 01:11:13.980 --> 01:11:14.319 You're son. 01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:15.840 You know what I mean? Oh. 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:17.280 She's like, I'm the one who pays the bills. 01:11:17.280 --> 01:11:17.940 Well, oh dang. 01:11:17.940 --> 01:11:23.100 Okay, well gotta sell it, you know, but, Yeah, I, I, I mean, I create 01:11:23.100 --> 01:11:26.940 discounts now that we're, you know, I didn't do a, didn't really do a 01:11:26.940 --> 01:11:29.190 discount right in the beginning because I wanted my business to flourish. 01:11:29.190 --> 01:11:29.340 Mm-hmm. 01:11:29.340 --> 01:11:32.220 And the more my businesses flourishes, I can do more for others. 01:11:32.220 --> 01:11:35.700 And one, one of my big things I've told guys, you know, Mac Belt, he's 01:11:35.700 --> 01:11:36.900 another team guy, really good guy. 01:11:37.980 --> 01:11:40.620 Um, you know, you know, at the beginning he's like, man, I want to, 01:11:40.620 --> 01:11:43.800 and he would extend knives, like, stop giving stuff away for free. 01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:44.130 Hmm. 01:11:44.130 --> 01:11:47.040 Like, listen, if someone's you, if someone's gonna, you know, talk about 01:11:47.040 --> 01:11:49.140 you on a podcast or something like that, and you wanna hook 'em up, okay? 01:11:49.140 --> 01:11:52.320 But like, do one or two here. 01:11:52.320 --> 01:11:53.040 That's it. 01:11:53.040 --> 01:11:56.040 And if any of your buddies want discounts, that's not your buddy. 01:11:56.040 --> 01:11:57.060 I've said, that's it. 01:11:57.060 --> 01:11:57.900 Listen, that's it. 01:11:57.900 --> 01:11:58.800 I should buy two. 01:11:58.800 --> 01:11:59.450 Right. 01:11:59.450 --> 01:12:01.980 You know, I'm gonna come to you and I'm gonna buy two, I'm gonna 01:12:01.980 --> 01:12:05.220 put an order in, you know, for 30 of 'em, for my guys in the shop. 01:12:05.220 --> 01:12:10.200 Or, you know, I, I, that's how you support other businesses, whether you. 01:12:10.200 --> 01:12:14.760 It doesn't need to be a law enforcement, first responder, military veteran-owned 01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:15.720 business, just small business. 01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:16.140 Mm-hmm. 01:12:16.140 --> 01:12:17.400 You want people to succeed. 01:12:17.400 --> 01:12:18.840 We want our economy to succeed. 01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:20.220 We want 'em there to, to succeed. 01:12:20.220 --> 01:12:20.880 You know what I mean? 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:24.600 And yeah, those people want to create a business, something they enjoy and, and, 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:28.620 uh, they got, you know, their kids' mouths to feed and you can't eat ramen every day. 01:12:28.620 --> 01:12:28.846 So, 01:12:28.846 --> 01:12:31.440 Travis Bader: you know, I know my kids would like that. 01:12:31.440 --> 01:12:32.850 At least one of 'em would True. 01:12:32.850 --> 01:12:33.760 Loves his Robin. 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:40.140 Um, and but you're also surrounding yourself with people who, uh, Compliment 01:12:40.140 --> 01:12:42.000 or they make up for your deficiencies. 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.160 You're like, I, I don't want to deal with the money. 01:12:44.160 --> 01:12:45.540 I'll find someone, I'll find Kelsey. 01:12:45.540 --> 01:12:45.878 Kelsey can 01:12:45.878 --> 01:12:46.300 Andrew Arrabito: deal with the money. 01:12:46.300 --> 01:12:46.980 That's like, good team. 01:12:46.980 --> 01:12:49.440 And some people are just better at some things than others. 01:12:49.440 --> 01:12:50.400 Mm-hmm. 01:12:50.400 --> 01:12:50.880 You know? 01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:54.600 Oh, and you're also given the, you know, one of the things with, you know, that 01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:58.020 leadership is you're always learning leadership, but you're also seeing, you're 01:12:58.020 --> 01:12:59.880 empowering them and not micromanaging. 01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:01.680 So you're empowering them to get, be better at their job. 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:03.120 And you're also saying, I got faith in you. 01:13:03.120 --> 01:13:03.600 Mm-hmm. 01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:04.740 You know, you're good at this. 01:13:04.740 --> 01:13:06.420 I expect a lot from you. 01:13:06.420 --> 01:13:09.630 You're gonna get, you know, the better you do, the more you get paid, and 01:13:09.630 --> 01:13:10.920 the more we flourish as a business. 01:13:11.700 --> 01:13:13.800 Um, but I do expect you to do your job well. 01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:16.740 And here's where I think you might be lacking. 01:13:16.740 --> 01:13:17.640 Here's what you missed. 01:13:18.540 --> 01:13:19.500 Um, I can't do what you do. 01:13:19.500 --> 01:13:21.180 I wouldn't en wouldn't enjoy what you do. 01:13:21.180 --> 01:13:24.360 So I want to give you the faith that you, you can do it well 01:13:24.360 --> 01:13:26.323 and grow in your own aspect. 01:13:26.323 --> 01:13:26.326 Uh, 01:13:26.326 --> 01:13:31.560 Travis Bader: one of my coworkers at, um, he worked with me for a number 01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.740 of years and then moved on to another job and we've become good friends. 01:13:34.740 --> 01:13:42.360 Uh, when he was, uh, working with me, he says, Uh, there's a Chinese, uh, curse 01:13:42.360 --> 01:13:48.360 that says, I wish you so much success that you have many employees and, uh, because 01:13:48.360 --> 01:13:51.660 the management of all of that, all of a sudden you're no longer dealing with. 01:13:51.660 --> 01:13:54.600 What was that you first started that you really loved and now you're trying to 01:13:54.600 --> 01:14:00.720 deal with all these different personality types and have you had difficult, I I 01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:04.440 mean, Gary Vanerchuk will say, don't get good at hiring, get good at firing. 01:14:04.440 --> 01:14:04.920 Right. 01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:08.400 Just find a nice way where you can let somebody go who isn't working 01:14:08.400 --> 01:14:12.540 up to standard and assist them to get onto something that maybe 01:14:12.540 --> 01:14:14.160 another job or connection you have. 01:14:14.160 --> 01:14:17.863 Or what are your thoughts on, on those things? 01:14:17.863 --> 01:14:21.360 Andrew Arrabito: Uh, I mean, we, turnover would really suck for 01:14:21.360 --> 01:14:23.992 us cuz it takes a while to teach somebody, you know what I mean? 01:14:23.992 --> 01:14:26.940 So, and it takes away from the time of my, my guys who've been here a 01:14:26.940 --> 01:14:28.020 long time to teach somebody new. 01:14:28.020 --> 01:14:30.540 Mm. Um, so we don't like turnover, obviously. 01:14:30.540 --> 01:14:31.020 Hmm. 01:14:31.020 --> 01:14:35.340 Um, takes six months, seven, eight months for guys to get. 01:14:35.340 --> 01:14:35.880 Okay. 01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:40.140 And then, you know, good year, year and a half, our guys are very proficient. 01:14:40.140 --> 01:14:40.470 Hmm. 01:14:40.470 --> 01:14:44.760 And I do let the guys, when guys hit a certain level here in the shop, I let 'em 01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:46.500 get pretty damn creative on their own. 01:14:46.500 --> 01:14:47.400 Yeah. Within reason. 01:14:47.400 --> 01:14:49.260 Yeah. And then guys really enjoyed that. 01:14:49.260 --> 01:14:50.880 You know, I wanna see, yeah. 01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:54.180 You know, I could take five guys, give 'em all the same knife design, 01:14:54.180 --> 01:14:56.640 say these are the three handle materials you're each gonna use. 01:14:56.640 --> 01:15:00.271 And all the knives would end up different, you know, which is really cool. 01:15:00.271 --> 01:15:00.284 That is cool. 01:15:00.284 --> 01:15:04.920 So want guys to be creative in their own way and, and see where they're, you 01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:06.780 know, they flourish, which I really like. 01:15:06.780 --> 01:15:09.480 Travis Bader: What's your favorite knife for hunting? 01:15:09.480 --> 01:15:13.140 Andrew Arrabito: Um, I mean, I ran my crow Jr. 01:15:13.140 --> 01:15:14.340 Probably more than anything else. 01:15:14.340 --> 01:15:14.760 Yeah. 01:15:15.300 --> 01:15:18.300 Um, I used that little feather light a lot when I was in Alaska. 01:15:18.300 --> 01:15:22.020 I used, uh, like a full size crow and a feather light pretty much for everything. 01:15:22.020 --> 01:15:26.820 And I took a, I took a Skinner with me, um, which I love those two little new 01:15:26.820 --> 01:15:28.200 little Skinner, so it kind of depends. 01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:34.260 Um, You know that feather line is a really killer little blade for almost everything. 01:15:34.260 --> 01:15:36.810 It's just a little small for doing big, big game. 01:15:36.810 --> 01:15:36.960 Mm-hmm. 01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:39.900 It's great for Caping for parts of big game obviously. 01:15:39.900 --> 01:15:47.400 Uh, but you know, I did a buffalo, almost a buffalo with the Skinner Jr. 01:15:47.400 --> 01:15:49.560 Did, uh, oryx. 01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:51.660 We've done obviously multiple Elk mm-hmm. 01:15:51.660 --> 01:15:52.860 With Mike Crow, Jr. 01:15:55.080 --> 01:15:58.126 There's multiple, there's multiple 01:15:58.126 --> 01:15:58.380 Travis Bader: knives. 01:15:58.380 --> 01:16:02.220 Having the background of being able to look at a problem from a 01:16:02.220 --> 01:16:06.360 different angle, and I find perhaps that's an ADHD thing as well. 01:16:06.360 --> 01:16:10.080 You just, you look at something completely different than somebody else would. 01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:13.140 You didn't say, you can't put padding under my shirt. 01:16:13.140 --> 01:16:15.000 Right, right, right. 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:19.740 Um, massive benefit to having a business cuz you can find all the areas that need 01:16:19.740 --> 01:16:22.500 servicing that other people aren't because they just haven't looked at it yet. 01:16:22.500 --> 01:16:23.023 Sure. 01:16:23.023 --> 01:16:25.800 Andrew Arrabito: Or they learned a certain way and the way they learned. 01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:27.300 They've only thought about that way. 01:16:27.300 --> 01:16:30.540 Travis Bader: Do you find there's people copying your style and like, 01:16:30.540 --> 01:16:32.520 or just blatantly ripping off Hfp? 01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:33.660 It's insane. 01:16:33.660 --> 01:16:34.140 Yeah. 01:16:34.140 --> 01:16:35.460 How do you protect that? 01:16:36.780 --> 01:16:37.380 I. 01:16:37.380 --> 01:16:38.203 No, 01:16:38.203 --> 01:16:40.500 Andrew Arrabito: no, I mean, there's, there's, obviously, there's 01:16:40.500 --> 01:16:42.960 patents you can do, like, on a certain knife, a certain thing 01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:44.149 like the, you know, the wave. 01:16:44.149 --> 01:16:44.156 Mm-hmm. 01:16:44.156 --> 01:16:47.520 Uh, like Emerson did, like he can protect, there's certain patents, 01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:50.640 uh, that people have, like a certain thing, a certain design on 01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:52.800 a knife that does a certain thing. 01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:57.420 So you, that's, that's pretty much all you can protect, um, 01:16:57.420 --> 01:16:58.680 obviously within the industry. 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:00.120 Like, you're not supposed to copy people. 01:17:00.120 --> 01:17:01.920 That's, that's a big no-no. 01:17:02.460 --> 01:17:05.880 Um, So what people do is they get really close with the design 01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:07.140 and then they copy the handle. 01:17:07.140 --> 01:17:07.800 Almost exact. 01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:11.880 And, and our aesthetics have been copied heavily last, you know, three 01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:16.440 years, three years, four years, very heavily aesthetic copying. 01:17:16.980 --> 01:17:20.520 Um, you know, there's a level in which people like, well, it's flattery. 01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:25.380 And I'm like, well, you know, there's a point where it detracts, it does detract 01:17:25.380 --> 01:17:27.960 right from our business and what we did. 01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:31.680 And I didn't see any split materials like we did before, and we made that up. 01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:32.760 Mm. You know what I mean? 01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:39.240 Um, I'm, I'm so stoked if we can be a good influence on either knife making, 01:17:39.240 --> 01:17:42.300 and I've had people that I look up to and look up to in the industry 01:17:42.300 --> 01:17:46.440 that are really incredible knife makers and bladesmiths that, um, uh, 01:17:46.440 --> 01:17:49.680 are amazing and do incredible stuff and, and we're all a bit different. 01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:57.480 Um, so seeing people that they aren't original, um, I'm like, you can be. 01:17:57.480 --> 01:18:02.220 You know, but, you know, does somebody want a real, you know, somebody 01:18:02.220 --> 01:18:04.380 you want to knock off of something? 01:18:04.380 --> 01:18:06.300 Mm-hmm. No, it doesn't hold value, so. 01:18:06.300 --> 01:18:07.080 Mm-hmm. 01:18:07.080 --> 01:18:10.200 Plus it's challenging when people, you know, try to rip our stuff off. 01:18:10.200 --> 01:18:11.640 They're like, all right, well, what can we do better? 01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:18.226 What can we challenge ourselves to change or make new or, um, and just do 01:18:18.226 --> 01:18:18.420 Travis Bader: better? 01:18:18.420 --> 01:18:22.140 I always wonder how much attention, because I'm a similar mindset. 01:18:22.140 --> 01:18:23.340 Someone wants a copy. 01:18:23.340 --> 01:18:23.820 That's great. 01:18:23.820 --> 01:18:24.360 I'll pivot. 01:18:24.360 --> 01:18:25.560 They're already behind me, right? 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:26.220 They're already. 01:18:26.820 --> 01:18:29.160 But on the same breath, if you've got something that's really popular 01:18:29.160 --> 01:18:33.000 that people are liking and it's gonna devalue your brand in the way that 01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:36.240 they're trying to copy it, because people start associating you with 01:18:36.240 --> 01:18:39.540 perhaps an inferior quality product, how much of your attention do you 01:18:39.540 --> 01:18:46.980 put towards protecting the brand as opposed to, um, innovating and pivoting? 01:18:46.980 --> 01:18:50.640 Andrew Arrabito: Uh, minimal on the, protecting the brand side cuz 01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:51.840 you can't, one, you can't do a lot. 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:54.819 And two, we've built such a good, uh, loyal group of, um, 01:18:54.819 --> 01:18:57.900 of follow, good following. 01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:01.860 Um, you know, obviously it's a business, their product and 01:19:01.860 --> 01:19:02.520 who's behind the business. 01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:07.200 So we've built such a good, loyal group of people that know, uh, know the projects 01:19:07.200 --> 01:19:12.180 that know us and have built personal relationships with, so, Hmm, excuse me. 01:19:12.180 --> 01:19:12.660 Yep. 01:19:12.660 --> 01:19:14.760 It's on them to protect the brand as well. 01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:18.540 And we've had these conversations with, you know, HSE enthusiast group or somebody 01:19:18.540 --> 01:19:22.620 is, you know, rehandling taking knives and rehandling 'em and trying to sell 'em 01:19:22.620 --> 01:19:28.080 and, and then, you know, contacting them and they'll be like, Well, why I'm letting 01:19:28.080 --> 01:19:31.440 the person know that I'm selling it too, that I rehanded it and those little, you 01:19:31.440 --> 01:19:34.440 know, taking a production knife, unbolting the handle and doing another handle on it. 01:19:34.440 --> 01:19:37.380 If you did, if they had their own style in totally different grip Hmm. 01:19:37.380 --> 01:19:39.000 I, I'd still think that's a little shady. 01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:40.500 Like go out and be selling it. 01:19:40.500 --> 01:19:40.860 Yeah. 01:19:40.860 --> 01:19:44.220 Like, like it's a, you know, they're always like, oh no, it's not a half face. 01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:44.940 I did the handle. 01:19:44.940 --> 01:19:48.180 Well, why are you selling as much as one of the custom Our customs would be, right. 01:19:48.180 --> 01:19:51.420 Because you know someone, and here's the deal, let's say the first person 01:19:51.420 --> 01:19:55.140 knows that that person rehandle the knife, but it's a half face weights bag. 01:19:55.140 --> 01:19:59.520 Well the second guy, he may not sell that to cuz he wants to get 1500 bucks for it. 01:19:59.520 --> 01:19:59.850 Mm-hmm. 01:19:59.850 --> 01:20:02.760 Or whatever, or, you know, and then that guy gets a knife and he is like, 01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:05.460 well this handle's kind of whack this, it's not lined up properly. 01:20:05.460 --> 01:20:06.420 This, this off. 01:20:06.420 --> 01:20:08.340 If there's still scratches on it, we'll look at. 01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:12.780 Look at now their first impression of a half face blade's knife. 01:20:12.780 --> 01:20:13.800 Right. 01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:17.280 So having this, you know, having these conversations with guys who've have 01:20:17.280 --> 01:20:20.760 put a lot of money and invested a lot into half face, and having these 01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:25.500 good conversations of like, listen, it behooves you to protect this brand 01:20:25.500 --> 01:20:27.180 because of your investment in it. 01:20:27.180 --> 01:20:27.510 Mm-hmm. 01:20:27.510 --> 01:20:31.500 And you want the knives to remain valuable forever or in gain, in value. 01:20:31.500 --> 01:20:31.830 Mm-hmm. 01:20:31.830 --> 01:20:35.520 So be careful of letting you know, or supporting other brands that are copying 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:36.900 our stuff and knocking our stuff off. 01:20:36.900 --> 01:20:41.700 Because if it devalues our, you know, the half face in any way, it's 01:20:41.700 --> 01:20:43.560 devaluing your investment in this brand. 01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:44.340 So it's on everybody. 01:20:44.340 --> 01:20:45.240 Protect a brand. 01:20:45.240 --> 01:20:47.083 Travis Bader: That's such a good way of looking 01:20:47.083 --> 01:20:47.400 Andrew Arrabito: at it. 01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:50.760 But you know, again, like I said, I don't spend a whole lot of time on it. 01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:56.280 Um, it's kind, you know, like people are gonna do it and they know it's dishonest. 01:20:57.240 --> 01:20:58.486 Um, well, what you've done 01:20:58.486 --> 01:21:02.100 Travis Bader: is you've made a very clear and concise way to help mobilize 01:21:02.100 --> 01:21:04.080 other people to spend time on it. 01:21:04.080 --> 01:21:04.920 Correct. 01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:06.060 That's brilliant. 01:21:06.060 --> 01:21:06.891 Why? 01:21:06.891 --> 01:21:08.640 Why, why do you need to put your attention there when it's 01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:09.720 gonna take you off the eye? 01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:11.880 Your, the prize that you're looking at. 01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:12.420 Correct. 01:21:12.420 --> 01:21:17.640 Just that's, uh, that's a, a valuable trait in a leader is to be 01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:21.360 able to, oh, it's leadership, the art of influencing human behavior. 01:21:21.360 --> 01:21:24.300 So it's accomplish a mission in the manner, so desired by the leader. 01:21:24.300 --> 01:21:24.480 Right. 01:21:24.480 --> 01:21:28.140 But you can, if you can distill that down and have others just 01:21:28.140 --> 01:21:29.400 pick up the slack and go with it. 01:21:29.400 --> 01:21:29.923 Right. 01:21:29.923 --> 01:21:31.440 Andrew Arrabito: Individual based. 01:21:31.440 --> 01:21:34.320 And we, you know, like I said, we've built those good relationships and we 01:21:34.320 --> 01:21:36.120 wanna make the best stuff for people. 01:21:36.120 --> 01:21:39.240 And there's so many people who have, who, you know, buy, selling, trading. 01:21:39.240 --> 01:21:41.940 They've made a lot of good money off of buying, selling, and trading. 01:21:41.940 --> 01:21:44.160 And I think they have gratitude as well. 01:21:44.160 --> 01:21:46.740 And we have so much gratitude for that, that values the brand. 01:21:46.740 --> 01:21:49.860 So protecting it is a, is a, it's a protecting. 01:21:49.860 --> 01:21:50.580 It's really big. 01:21:50.580 --> 01:21:51.180 Yeah. 01:21:51.180 --> 01:21:55.260 Uh, I don't spend a whole lot of my, my time on that, my personal time. 01:21:55.260 --> 01:21:58.980 I expect people to have invested in, in the business and built these relationships 01:21:58.980 --> 01:22:02.700 with us here at the shop personally and the brand itself to, to do that. 01:22:02.700 --> 01:22:04.126 Where's responsibility? 01:22:04.126 --> 01:22:05.820 Travis Bader: Where's the most of your time spent? 01:22:05.820 --> 01:22:10.560 Andrew Arrabito: Uh, I'm working on my own projects and, you know, working 01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:14.160 on up and coming collaborations and new designs and refining old stuff. 01:22:15.360 --> 01:22:19.740 Um, and building those friendships, man, and, and you know, spending time with 01:22:19.740 --> 01:22:21.180 my guys in the shop, in and outta work. 01:22:21.180 --> 01:22:21.766 That's 01:22:21.766 --> 01:22:22.200 Travis Bader: ticket. 01:22:22.200 --> 01:22:23.160 I love it. 01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:25.860 Well, uh, should we wrap things up there? 01:22:25.860 --> 01:22:28.440 Is there anything else we should plug before we re before we do? 01:22:28.440 --> 01:22:33.480 Andrew Arrabito: Um, I mean, I guess we did talk about War Paw a little bit. 01:22:33.480 --> 01:22:37.740 Just, I grew up up in Napa Valley and it's kind of my ode to, to, uh, the wine 01:22:37.740 --> 01:22:41.880 country and I really wanted to do it for a long time and I'd come up with some, you 01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:47.340 know, ideas and, and name stuff and what, you know, what I wanted to add into that. 01:22:47.340 --> 01:22:52.680 And I ran into a guy, uh, GW Luci and he has his own wine and he joined the 01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:56.460 Army and he got out and married a woman up in Napa Valley that I knew and became 01:22:56.460 --> 01:22:58.440 a wine maker and has his own label. 01:22:58.440 --> 01:23:00.000 And he became my wine maker. 01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:03.360 And it kind of like, Just fell into place and he's, I was talking to him 01:23:03.360 --> 01:23:04.860 and he was like, yeah, I'm making wine. 01:23:04.860 --> 01:23:05.700 I have my own label. 01:23:05.700 --> 01:23:09.900 And I was like, Hey, you know, would you consider, you know, 01:23:09.900 --> 01:23:12.240 managing and making wine with me? 01:23:12.240 --> 01:23:17.580 And, you know, and I put my trust in him and yeah, we go and find, you know, 01:23:17.580 --> 01:23:21.060 vineyards with good grapes and walk those vineyards and get those contracts 01:23:21.060 --> 01:23:24.240 and buy the barrels and, and make wine. 01:23:24.240 --> 01:23:25.560 So that's small and it's growing. 01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:29.580 It's a cool side project I really love, um, if you get a chance, people 01:23:29.580 --> 01:23:34.800 can go there and there's only, you know, two, uh, two varietals, two 01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:36.180 uh, wines up right now on the site. 01:23:36.180 --> 01:23:40.140 And then I have a pinot noir that's dropping in the fall, but read the back 01:23:40.140 --> 01:23:42.060 of the, read the back of the bottle. 01:23:42.060 --> 01:23:43.200 People really like that. 01:23:43.200 --> 01:23:43.620 Yeah. 01:23:43.620 --> 01:23:47.100 The meanings, the symbols, there's, there's little symbols on the back 01:23:47.100 --> 01:23:50.820 and each symbol stands for, stands for something that I think people really jive. 01:23:50.820 --> 01:23:51.600 Really cool. 01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:52.740 I have to Travis Bader: check that out next time. 01:23:52.740 --> 01:23:54.060 It's been a few years I've been in Napa. 01:23:54.060 --> 01:23:54.163 The 01:23:54.163 --> 01:23:57.047 Andrew Arrabito: lion, the lion is one of the lo little logos on the back as well. 01:23:57.047 --> 01:23:57.060 There you go. 01:23:57.060 --> 01:24:02.160 You know, for, you know, the, you know, the lion provides and he protects his, 01:24:02.160 --> 01:24:05.280 he protects his family and his tribe and he protects the land he grew up on. 01:24:06.120 --> 01:24:06.766 So, 01:24:06.766 --> 01:24:09.300 Travis Bader: and it's war and they, well they ship to Canada. 01:24:09.300 --> 01:24:11.323 If I don't make it down to Napa, I don't 01:24:11.323 --> 01:24:11.640 Andrew Arrabito: think so. 01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:12.692 Yeah, I don't think so either. 01:24:12.692 --> 01:24:14.040 Might have now as of figure something out. 01:24:14.040 --> 01:24:17.340 You know, it's all, I have it, you know, stored up at a spa in Napa 01:24:17.340 --> 01:24:19.620 Valley and a place called Veno Shipper ships it cause they have the 01:24:19.620 --> 01:24:20.760 licensing for the different states. 01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:22.680 Okay. So it's all direct. 01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:25.320 Um, there's, you know, I just need to be really proactive with it, 01:24:25.320 --> 01:24:28.440 with my limited time and um, there's some really nice restaurants that 01:24:28.440 --> 01:24:32.040 have asked for it that just haven't been able to get it to him yet. 01:24:32.040 --> 01:24:34.740 But I have, my cab cab will be two and a half more years till 01:24:34.740 --> 01:24:36.300 the Cabernet gets released. 01:24:36.900 --> 01:24:40.200 Um, Pinot Navarro will be this year, next year, another Shein Blanc. 01:24:40.200 --> 01:24:43.440 Next year I'm working with the guy Mario Cullo up there. 01:24:43.440 --> 01:24:44.940 He's got some really amazing wines. 01:24:44.940 --> 01:24:47.090 So working with him and I have some good mentors. 01:24:47.090 --> 01:24:48.886 Very cool for the outside of the fence. 01:24:48.886 --> 01:24:51.540 Travis Bader: I might have a couple connections in that area as well that 01:24:51.540 --> 01:24:53.040 might be able to assist with exposure. 01:24:53.040 --> 01:24:55.260 So we can talk, uh, always appreciate it. 01:24:55.260 --> 01:24:56.700 Talk off, off air here. 01:24:57.420 --> 01:25:01.080 Um, Andrew, thank you so very much for being on the Silvercore podcast. 01:25:01.080 --> 01:25:02.700 Really enjoyed talking with you. 01:25:02.700 --> 01:25:03.223 Hey, 01:25:03.223 --> 01:25:06.000 Andrew Arrabito: did we not talk about our own project? 01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:07.426 We didn't, did 01:25:07.426 --> 01:25:11.600 Travis Bader: we? Let's, let's talk about that one really. 01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:12.900 Yeah. 01:25:12.900 --> 01:25:13.860 Oh, that's exciting. 01:25:13.860 --> 01:25:16.020 Yeah. How, how can I miss that one? 01:25:16.020 --> 01:25:16.500 Right? 01:25:16.500 --> 01:25:23.100 Uh, so yeah, we've got some, uh, half face blades coming out with, uh, special 01:25:23.100 --> 01:25:25.440 limited edition run for Silvercore. 01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:29.160 And we're gonna have, once those are up and ready, anybody who's, 01:25:29.160 --> 01:25:33.420 uh, uh, interested in seeing that, we'll have links in the mailer 01:25:33.420 --> 01:25:36.283 and through social media and you can check it out through, uh, half 01:25:36.283 --> 01:25:36.900 Andrew Arrabito: face plates. 01:25:36.900 --> 01:25:40.440 So we'll have, uh, the, the first five done today, they're 01:25:40.440 --> 01:25:41.220 probably done right now. 01:25:41.220 --> 01:25:45.540 We're going gonna get 'em up to you to start getting some, uh, photography. 01:25:45.540 --> 01:25:48.540 And as the other ones get done, we'll get some photography and stuff down here. 01:25:48.540 --> 01:25:52.260 We'll get all the, the specs and, you know, we'll, we'll find a date 01:25:52.260 --> 01:25:54.900 and time where you wanna release them and we'll put that out. 01:25:54.900 --> 01:25:57.060 Uh, we'll put that out as well. 01:25:57.060 --> 01:25:59.520 Date and time and images and all the specs. 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.880 And it's a really cool, it's one of my favorite little blades, you 01:26:02.880 --> 01:26:03.886 know, outdoor blades, so, mm-hmm. 01:26:03.886 --> 01:26:05.880 Travis Bader: I'm so stoked for that one. 01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:11.160 It's, um, Yeah, and like it's been said a few times by yourself, but very 01:26:11.160 --> 01:26:14.640 grateful for the connections and being introduced to you and what you do. 01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:16.560 I'm sure we'll be talking more in the future. 01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:19.003 I'm actually looking forward to coming down and checking out your 01:26:19.003 --> 01:26:20.592 Andrew Arrabito: shop. Absolutely, man. 01:26:20.592 --> 01:26:21.300 Always welcome. 01:26:21.300 --> 01:26:22.066 So 01:26:22.066 --> 01:26:24.060 Travis Bader: we'll have all of that up on social media and 01:26:24.060 --> 01:26:25.560 of course sir Mueller as well. 01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:27.163 Andrew, thanks so 01:26:27.163 --> 01:26:28.500 Andrew Arrabito: much. Absolutely, man. 01:26:28.500 --> 01:26:29.520 It's been a pleasure to be here. 01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:33.240 It's, that's, uh, I'm glad we connected and we could work together and get to.