Work Less, Earn More

In this episode, I’m joined by success coach Gabe Cox to dig deep into one of the most effective strategies for writing copy that truly resonates: verbatim messaging. We’re breaking down how using your customers’ exact words—not just guessing at what they want—can lead to major boosts in your conversion rates. I’ll also walk you through the DMO framework (Desires, Motivations, Obstacles) that I rely on to uncover those golden insights directly from your audience. If you’ve ever struggled to connect with your customers or feel like your messaging is falling flat, this episode is packed with actionable tips to help you turn things around.


Listen to the full episode to hear:
  • How verbatim messaging can transform your copy by using your customers’ exact words.
  • An introduction to the 100k method and how it leverages customer language to boost conversions.
  • A step-by-step breakdown of the DMO framework (Desires, Motivations, Obstacles) for gathering valuable customer insights.
  • Practical tips for better understanding your audience and crafting messages that truly resonate.


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What is Work Less, Earn More?

Work Less, Earn More is the podcast that explores how to get the most out of every hour you work. Gillian Perkins brings more than a decade of experience as an entrepreneur and educator to help you design a business that's not only flexible and fulfilling, but highly profitable. She shares strategies that are working in her own business to save time and maximize profits. She also features interviews with successful business owners on how they’re achieving big things in their businesses with crazy-little time investment. Share Work Less, Earn More with an overworked entrepreneur you know who could use a change of pace!