Today’s Guests: Kate Atkisson & Clay Black of Ripple Effect
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Guest Links:
Kate Atkisson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateatkisson/
Clay Black: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayblack-creative/
In this episode, Colin sits down with Kate Atkisson and Clay Black from Ripple Effect to explore what it really takes to grow a brand that connects with people. Drawing from their experience as marketing strategists and entrepreneurs, they unpack the realities of brand growth, audience connection, and why embracing chaos is often part of the process.
Kate and Clay discuss why so many businesses struggle with marketing, how listening can become a superpower, and why foundational elements like mission and vision matter more than logos and taglines. They also dive into the role of research, the lessons hidden in failure, and how community and networking can help entrepreneurs navigate uncertainty. This conversation is packed with practical insight for small-business owners looking to build meaningful relationships and sustainable growth.
Key Takeaways
Embrace the chaos in entrepreneurship.
Many businesses struggle with effective marketing.
Listening to your audience is crucial for brand success.
Foundational elements like mission and vision are essential.
Failure is a valuable part of the learning process.
Community and networking provide critical support.
Research helps clarify audience needs.
Flexibility and adaptability drive long-term growth.
Relationships matter more than branding elements alone.
It’s okay - and wise - to seek help from experienced mentors.
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About Colin
Colin Davis is a business and leadership coach with a background in ministry, psychology, and organizational leadership. A former missionary and monk turned entrepreneur, he helps small-business owners create focus, build systems, and achieve lasting growth through First Principles Coaching. He lives in Virginia with his wife and children.
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But First, Principles with Colin Davis is a podcast for leaders, entrepreneurs, and curious minds who want to dig deeper into how things really work. Each episode explores a timeless principle or mental model that drives exceptional decision-making, leadership clarity, and strategic thinking. With guests from business, tech, academia, and beyond, Colin helps listeners peel back the noise and return to what really matters: the principles that stand the test of time.
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