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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to kick off this episode with one

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<v Speaker 1>of our favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that I like to do. That's right, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>because we are dedicated to giving you great news.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and and and now us being you know, both

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<v Speaker 3>of us quite gifted athletes in our day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, yeah, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a sports edition.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you say that tongue in cheek, but

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<v Speaker 1>that that is true your Yeah, were you? I was?

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<v Speaker 2>I was? I was a decent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah so yeah, yeah, and so this is a sports

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<v Speaker 3>edition of a new segment. Right, So we're doing a

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<v Speaker 3>sports segment today, and this is incredibly important. We only

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<v Speaker 3>bring from the finest sources, and of course we think

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<v Speaker 3>the finest source of any kind of news on the

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<v Speaker 3>Internet is the Babylon b Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so, which is more reliable than most news.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, you can trust them more. There's more truth in

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<v Speaker 3>what they write. If you don't know the Babylon Bez

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<v Speaker 3>a satire website, very very funny, you should look them

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<v Speaker 3>up anyways, Here's what it says. Here's the article today.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the sports edition. Referees annoyed as football game

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<v Speaker 3>keeps interrupting their penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Calls, which is accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City, Kansas referees at a recent Chiefs game were

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<v Speaker 3>reportedly less than thrilled to find that an NFL football

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<v Speaker 3>game kept interrupting their penalty calls. According to several reps

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<v Speaker 3>at the game, the teams of players lining up and

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<v Speaker 3>trying to move the football across the field quote totally

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<v Speaker 3>messed up their attempts to keep calling random calls from

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<v Speaker 3>the favorite Patrick Mames. I blame the coaches, always trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get their players to get another play going, said

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<v Speaker 3>head referee Chut Brand as he adjusted his inch and

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<v Speaker 3>a half thick glasses.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. Nice, We're all.

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<v Speaker 4>Busy here trying to invent calls people never even seen before,

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<v Speaker 4>so that our homie Mames could kick butt by all

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<v Speaker 4>these loser football players keep getting in the way, really

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<v Speaker 4>really disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 3>While fans have tended to take rather dim views of

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<v Speaker 3>the referees complaints, one source here referred to as quote

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Metric poems to protect his identity, claims that the

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<v Speaker 3>ref's grievance is completely valid. At publishing time, NFL referees

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<v Speaker 3>had decided to teach those upstart players a real lesson

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<v Speaker 3>by awarding the next three games to Mahomes. Is a

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<v Speaker 3>penalty for starting a play that's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>So, because that was such a quick segment, let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this question. Do you believe I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a skeptic. I always had said that from the stage, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I truly am a skeptic. I'm not sure people

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<v Speaker 1>understand just how skeptical my brain actually is. But like

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<v Speaker 1>when I start to see things that really look fishy

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<v Speaker 1>and they're hard to believe, Like I'm absolutely convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, when you watch NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, there's no way there's a conspiracy, no way

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<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to control an outcome. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way that Patrick Mahomes will slide, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>not cross the end zone. He's gonna let the clock

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<v Speaker 1>run down the last twelve seconds because that would have

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<v Speaker 1>covered the spread. And by the way, the swing is

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<v Speaker 1>one billion dollars of bets.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's sliding.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to be on the take for a

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars, or the referees want Mahome to win, Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>to win because the Chiefs bring in so much momentum

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<v Speaker 1>with Taylor Swift and all those kind of things. I

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<v Speaker 1>am actually convinced that there is some of that going

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<v Speaker 1>on in.

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<v Speaker 3>His favor for the Chiefs. I'm for Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean not just that.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think in general the refs are on the take.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there's some of that that goes.

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<v Speaker 3>On, you know, so on an individual basis perhaps, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think for advantage, but more as a fan.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's impossible for refs not to

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<v Speaker 3>be fans and to have maybe rose colored glasses for

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<v Speaker 3>the ours versus the average player, you know that kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of like in their hearts, they want to see my

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<v Speaker 2>home succeeds.

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<v Speaker 3>They believe he did succeed right, right, right, So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that there's there's some of that, But to think

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<v Speaker 3>that there's a conspiracy behind it. The refs just don't

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<v Speaker 3>get paid enough money. So somebody would have told the

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<v Speaker 3>world because they would make more money writing a book

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<v Speaker 3>about it than they would than they ever will in

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<v Speaker 3>their careers. Yeah right, yeah, So so if they ever

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<v Speaker 3>if somebody actually broke that in a in a book

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<v Speaker 3>or in a news thing, they would be so rich

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<v Speaker 3>and they're not. So you know, man alive when you

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<v Speaker 3>have the vice president United States turn on a president

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<v Speaker 3>in what eleven days or something right dere in Watergate,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was offering to protect everybody, right, So you

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<v Speaker 3>get the most powerful person in the world offering to

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<v Speaker 3>protect you, and they roll over on them and then

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<v Speaker 3>they all go right. Books later, I think it would

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<v Speaker 3>happen some ref over the one hundred and some odd

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<v Speaker 3>years that football has been going would have exposed it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well it was conspiracy as opposed to just bias.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that it's going to happen in some ref

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're saying, but I'm saying it's way bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than that. So like, for instance, it happened for me

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<v Speaker 1>last year when it was an unlikely comeback. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs, and I remember like they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, and he was running toward the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>and there was nobody around him within like fifteen yards

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<v Speaker 1>and all he had to do was cross the end zone.

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<v Speaker 2>But he takes a slide on the two yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>What all he had to do was take a knee

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<v Speaker 1>on the next drive, right on the next down, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because he got the first down, and had he just

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<v Speaker 1>taken two more steps, the industry, the betting industry, would

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<v Speaker 1>have lost a billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how many seconds were left in the clock, like twelve?

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's why. That's why. So he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>score a touchdown and give the ball back to the

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<v Speaker 3>other team with top seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>I do understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe that's the clock management thing there.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm wrong then, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, all I know is all of our non football

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<v Speaker 3>fans are like, why are you guys talking about them?

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably true, that's pubbly true. Yeah, I guess because

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<v Speaker 1>we read a football thing, right. Yeah, I actually believe

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<v Speaker 1>that there are conspiracy things. Okay, and my wife gets

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<v Speaker 1>mad at me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that way.

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<v Speaker 3>He also Chris also has aliens peeking in his window.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't say all that, but I do think

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<v Speaker 1>government conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he sleeps with a moon land.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm talking about like I'm talking about like us

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<v Speaker 1>being sheep and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I started buying a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the whole Roman Empire had that idea of give them,

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<v Speaker 3>give them bread and games, right, remember that right, freedom,

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<v Speaker 3>and let them give them some entertainment that they won't

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<v Speaker 3>overthrow us. Is that what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Colosseum?

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<v Speaker 3>So this is these stadiums are colosseums. No, there are

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<v Speaker 3>gladiators that far. But but yeah, I think some of

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<v Speaker 3>it's rigged. I really do. Okay, Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>You have it. Now, if Chris disappears, it's because he

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<v Speaker 3>said something. He exposed NFL now, and somebody's going to

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<v Speaker 3>catch you in the afternoon. Put a hood over head

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<v Speaker 3>through you in a white van. You're just going to disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I did not say anything about with shove Obama.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be clear.

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<v Speaker 3>No. No, we just got we just got canceled. We

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<v Speaker 3>just got shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>I said I did not, Yes, I know I did not.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so it's your transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So, speaking of making good calls, no, no, no, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang it. Why don't you just do it? That was

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<v Speaker 2>really good. I can't talk that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. No, we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do bad ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of making good calls, Solomon is about to execute

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant good call in this scenario, demonstrating how much

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom he has.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang it, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I blew it.

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<v Speaker 3>Good job.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you, it's you. It's all about you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about me. Let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes you, you do.

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<v Speaker 3>You see the difference if you've never seen Brian Reagan's

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<v Speaker 3>comedy special I Walked on the Moon, Yes, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to watch it. Yea, it still holds up well, it

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<v Speaker 3>still defines a lot of our interaction with each other. Right, okay, anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>here we go. Solomon judges wisely in First Kings Chapter three,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna start with verse sixteen. So he's been

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<v Speaker 3>sitting on the throne, he's doing all kinds of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>God gives him wisdom. And then it says, sometime later,

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<v Speaker 3>two prostitutes came to the king to have an argument settled,

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<v Speaker 3>please my Lord. One of them began, This woman and

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<v Speaker 3>I live in the same house. I gave birth to

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<v Speaker 3>Three days later, this woman also had a baby. We

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<v Speaker 3>were alone, there were only two of us in the house,

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<v Speaker 3>but her baby died during the night when she rolled

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<v Speaker 3>over on it. Then she got up in the night

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<v Speaker 3>and took my son from beside me while I was asleep,

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<v Speaker 3>and she laid her dead child in my arms and

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<v Speaker 3>took mine to sleep beside her. In the morning, when

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to nurse my son, he was dead. But

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<v Speaker 3>when I looked more closely in the morning light, I

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<v Speaker 3>saw that it wasn't my son at all. Then the

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<v Speaker 3>other woman interrupted, it certainly was your son, and the

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<v Speaker 3>living child is mine. No, the first woman said, the

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<v Speaker 3>living child is mine and the dead one is yours.

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<v Speaker 3>And so they argued back and forth before the king.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the king said, let's get the fact straight. Both

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<v Speaker 3>of you claim the living child is yours, and each

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<v Speaker 3>says the dead one belongs to the other. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>bring me a sword. So a sword was brought to

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<v Speaker 3>the king, and then he said, just cut the living

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<v Speaker 3>half to the other. Then the woman, who was the

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<v Speaker 3>real mother of the living child and who loved him

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<v Speaker 3>very much, cried out, oh no, my Lord, give her

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<v Speaker 3>the child. Please don't kill him. But the other woman said,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, he'll be neither of ours, neither yours nor mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Divide in between us. And then the king said, do

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<v Speaker 3>not kill the child, but give him to the woman

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<v Speaker 3>who wants him to live, for she is his mother.

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<v Speaker 3>When all Israel heard the king's decision, the people were

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean, what a brilliant, absolutely brilliant thing

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<v Speaker 1>Then, I'm sure that this kind of thing probably happened

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<v Speaker 1>Proof, right, you know, so so so yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's What's a way to discover who the real

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<v Speaker 2>It's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so yeah, and so what where's the sermon

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<v Speaker 1>in here? The sermon in here is that either a,

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<v Speaker 1>among your people or your organization, or b. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing that we all need to hear. If

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<v Speaker 1>because you can see the benefit of wisdom, right, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>The benefit of wisdom here is unbelievable. And to have

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<v Speaker 1>is a priceless thing that we should never overlook. You

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<v Speaker 1>discernment wisdom, then surround yourself with somebody who does.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many decisions that are more than just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you read this story. You go, wow, he was so

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<v Speaker 3>smart and the right lady got the baby. Yep, But

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<v Speaker 3>what you're talking about is the lives of an innocent

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<v Speaker 3>woman and an innocent child. A kidnapper, right, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>an actual crime, an innocent mother, and and and the life,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole life of this child. So if this woman,

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong woman, had gotten that baby, that baby would

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<v Speaker 3>have grown up probably in a miserable situation, his whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, there's been a resentment and right, well, wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>never known perhaps or the other way. She's she's already

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<v Speaker 3>a bad person. She's trying to kidnap him, uh and

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<v Speaker 3>and all these things. And so it's more than just

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<v Speaker 3>the moment that the decision needs to be made. It

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<v Speaker 3>really has uh life impacts on three different people. And

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<v Speaker 3>instead of of her maybe going on and doing more

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<v Speaker 3>criminal things. We don't know what she did, but she

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<v Speaker 3>was exposed as a criminal in that moment. That there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these things that the kingdom is better

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<v Speaker 3>and the lives of his people are better. Innocent people

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<v Speaker 3>get justice, Guilty people find justice, right, And it's more

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<v Speaker 3>than just a good decision in the moment, right, We

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<v Speaker 3>could just read this stroying. Wow, he's so smart. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is a demonstration. This is why people loved him

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<v Speaker 3>so much. Right when all Israel heard the king's decision,

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<v Speaker 3>that people were in awe of the king because they

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<v Speaker 3>saw the wisdom that God had given him for rendering justice.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's not only this circumstance. People began to believe

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<v Speaker 3>Solomon has answers right, it's solidified as leadership. Even more right,

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<v Speaker 3>David had several coups. Even his generals sometimes turned against

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<v Speaker 3>him because they would wonder, man, he's a little reckless,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was. Now he always landed on top, but

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<v Speaker 3>he was reckless, right, And now they see this stable thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>this deep wisdom, and it's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>caused his people to love him deeply. They made significant

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<v Speaker 3>sacrifices for him because they believed in him. They really

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<v Speaker 3>trusted him. And so it's the life impact of these

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<v Speaker 3>women and this baby. But it also affected the entire

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<v Speaker 3>kingdom where they began to go, oh, wow, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>a good one. We've got a good king. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've seen in our in our nation over

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<v Speaker 3>the last few presidencies. Our nation doesn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of trust in our leaders. Right, So the whole nation

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<v Speaker 3>is unstable, right, Right. When there's a lot of trust

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<v Speaker 3>in a leader, the nations tend to stabilize, right, because

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<v Speaker 3>the leader is able to build confidence in the people.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what you see in Solomon's reign from

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<v Speaker 3>here on out, that people sacrifice, that people work extra hard,

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<v Speaker 3>they give even more of their resources. They're willing to

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<v Speaker 3>do whatever it takes for the betterment of the kingdom

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<v Speaker 3>because everything is getting better because they have a great leader.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is one of those things that establishes that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I love it. I think it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so, of all the spiritual gifts, wisdom is a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual gift.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yes, huh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there's knowledge, there's wisdom, there's discernment, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>those three.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, what is the difference. We've already talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>difference in knowledge and wisdom. What about discernment?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, so I maybe misspoke this a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday I lumped wisdom and discernment together. So knowledge is

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<v Speaker 3>knowing stuff, yeah, facts, right, Right, it's the lowest on

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<v Speaker 3>this scale.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Wisdom is knowing the right thing to do. Discernment is

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<v Speaker 3>all about the right thing, the right way, with the

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<v Speaker 3>right people in the right moment, right right. It's Discernment's

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<v Speaker 3>all about applying wisdom. So discernment has no use apart

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<v Speaker 3>from wisdom. So that's why wisdom is the principal thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So is discernment the one that's connected to God hearing

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<v Speaker 1>from God? Is there a God component to discernment that

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<v Speaker 1>does not exist with wisdom because wisdom can be either

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<v Speaker 1>godly or worldly.

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<v Speaker 3>Wordly wisdom, Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think good

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<v Speaker 3>question as a spiritual gift. Certainly wisdom is a spiritual gift.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that all those are God connected as opposed

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<v Speaker 3>to worldly wisdom and worldly discernment. I think that there

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<v Speaker 3>are people who are discerning that that are able to

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<v Speaker 3>put too and two together. Usually highly discerning people have

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<v Speaker 3>a strong sense of logic, right, which is the science

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<v Speaker 3>side of it, but then also have this instinct of

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<v Speaker 3>being able to see through the words being said or

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<v Speaker 3>the circumstances. Right. There's some people just have that good

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<v Speaker 3>instinct like that. That's not necessarily the spiritual gift side.

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<v Speaker 3>But what God does with spiritual gifts is he takes

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<v Speaker 3>things that would be a normal strength that somebody has,

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<v Speaker 3>and he says, I'm going to supernaturally enhance that in

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<v Speaker 3>you as you you know, all of God's if then

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<v Speaker 3>promises with Solomon, if you choose to do these things,

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<v Speaker 3>they pour this out on you. And yeah, so the

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<v Speaker 3>discernment side is in my mind, when you have somebody

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<v Speaker 3>who has like the gift of prophecy or a word

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<v Speaker 3>of knowledge as if, I will say that those have

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<v Speaker 3>discernment kind of gifts to them are supernatural. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been told in the past, and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny because there are times where you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>never you never can rate yourself right. Other people have

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<v Speaker 1>to rate you right. It's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>When well one Corinthians chapter fourteen says, when it's talking

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<v Speaker 3>about spiritual gifts, says, the profits are subject to the prophets.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, meaning those who have certain gifts are only

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<v Speaker 3>the only ones that can really affirm it in others.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, if you have the gifts of teaching,

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<v Speaker 1>you recognize the gifts of teaching, and then you say, hey, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have the gift of teaching, you're a good teacher. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why everybody else might say I like his teaching, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but somebody with gifted teaching goes, here's why you're a

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<v Speaker 3>good teacher. This is what makes you a good teacher.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. I see you. I see the potential in

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<v Speaker 3>you as being a great teacher, right right, I see

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<v Speaker 3>this gift in you. And so spiritual gifts are often

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<v Speaker 3>affirmed by or should be affirmed by the ones who

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is incredibly wise, and it's a great rule

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<v Speaker 3>So wisdom is one of those things you can begin

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<v Speaker 3>to believe maybe God's given you some wisdom, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>only affirmed in others. Others will affirm it in you.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's here's what I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>There are times in my life where I was I've

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<v Speaker 1>been told by others and it's been affirmed where I

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<v Speaker 1>have wisdom. And so it's like, so you know the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing to do in the moment. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have some of that. You know, now, is it incredibly high?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it's on the higher end. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's as high as some. But then there

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<v Speaker 1>are times in my life where again this is just

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<v Speaker 1>where the weird part falls.

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<v Speaker 3>In.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are times where I think I have good discernment.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that there have been other areas of

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<v Speaker 1>my life where where there's a gaping hole. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the part that lacks discernment. So I've been told

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<v Speaker 1>by others who says, who tell us, hey, man, you

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<v Speaker 1>get good knowledge, you demonstrate great wisdom in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways, but there are times in your life where

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<v Speaker 1>you lack discernment, and and I think that that is

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<v Speaker 3>What we can have competing things that can challenge even

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<v Speaker 3>the spiritual gifts we have sometimes, right, So it's uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I can I can see that, I think in all

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<v Speaker 3>of us and everybody that has So if I ever

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<v Speaker 3>take spiritual gifts, test wisdom and discernment both come in

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<v Speaker 3>my top five. Right, So those are both there. But

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<v Speaker 3>I also found myself making dumb decisions and then later on, look,

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<v Speaker 3>bang go, I knew better than that, right, but I

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<v Speaker 3>had some other my heart. I was chasing my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing something where I had some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>competing thing working against me in the moment, and I

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<v Speaker 3>wound up making a dumb decision. That didn't mean I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have wisdom and discernment. It just meant in that moment,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't surrender to it. I surrendered to another part

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<v Speaker 3>of my life that pulled me away from wisdom to discernment,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the dichotomy of Solomon's life. Right, he has

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<v Speaker 3>the most wisdom of anybody in history, and yet he

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how does he do that? I've always careful to

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<v Speaker 1>follow your heart, don't follow your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Guard your heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was wise enough to warn us, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he did.

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<v Speaker 2>It right, don't do what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's possible to be a godly person didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>the right answer and still not do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I was gonna say, I'm always careful to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that nobody will ever be wiser than.

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon, because that's what God says.

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<v Speaker 1>That God says, nobody, you know, I'm gonna give you wisdom,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody nobody has been more wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Or ever will be.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, wow, what a claim, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>so thousands of years ago, He's like, the billions of

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<v Speaker 1>people that come and go on this earth, this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the pinnacle. You're looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. You mentioned surround yourself with with people with

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<v Speaker 3>wisdom and discernment, you know. And and I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 3>a very very quick story. I had a number of

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<v Speaker 3>years ago an attempted coup in my leadership from a

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<v Speaker 3>young leader that I was trying to develop. Uh, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a significant confrontation. He had been doing a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of things behind the scenes to pull away a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the top leaders and the best leaders. It was

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<v Speaker 3>all secret. Was his name, I'm not saying at anjec

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely yeah. So some great

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<v Speaker 3>key leaders, people that I love deeply turned on me

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<v Speaker 3>very very hard based on his accusations of this confrontation

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<v Speaker 3>we had. So we were trying we meet with the elders,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to have this meeting with these families.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had a friend that I've always felt had

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<v Speaker 3>some wisdom and discernment. I have friends who go, why

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<v Speaker 3>is he your friend? Right right? And I'm always like,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy has a wisdom and a discernment that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that I have. He calls me right before

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<v Speaker 3>this gathering and he goes, I've had a few conversations

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<v Speaker 3>with these people, nothing has actually been said. I have

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<v Speaker 3>a sense and I feel like maybe the Lord is

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<v Speaker 3>causing me to discern there's a recording. Be very careful

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<v Speaker 3>what you say. So my wife and I pray about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We met with a couple of the elders and we

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<v Speaker 3>prayed about this. God give us wisdom and discernment this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I help us not to say the wrong things, bring

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<v Speaker 3>to remembrance the conversation, help us to be humble. We

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<v Speaker 3>go into the meeting. About ten minutes into the meeting,

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<v Speaker 3>they start asking very precise questions when I'm talking in

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<v Speaker 3>general things because the event happened in the past, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're about fifteen twenty minutes in and the Lord

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<v Speaker 3>just said there is a recording. And I said, let

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<v Speaker 3>me pause before I answer that question. Is there a recording?

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<v Speaker 3>And if there is, have you heard it? And the

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<v Speaker 3>room went dead and they got red in the face.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody want to answer. It was forty five seconds of silence,

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<v Speaker 3>and finally the guy who was coming after the heart

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<v Speaker 3>had said, h yes, there is a recording I have

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<v Speaker 3>heard it. I went, oh, okay, so this is an

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<v Speaker 3>entrapment meeting. Right. It pivoted, So my entire board wasn't sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we trusted those other great leaders. My entire board

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<v Speaker 3>immediately came over to my side, yepiate, and it established.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was early in my leadership at Heritage Church.

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<v Speaker 3>Came over and it was because of my friend who

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<v Speaker 3>has this discernment that I don't have. I have discernment,

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<v Speaker 3>but not on his level. And he rescued me and

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<v Speaker 3>rescued our leadership. And I believe the church in general,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the value of having somebody with the spiritual

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<v Speaker 3>gift of wisdom and discernment, you know, in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was in pain. So I also have wisdom

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<v Speaker 3>and discernment. Right, That's been a firm minum many times.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was in pain, and I was a little

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<v Speaker 3>fearful in this. I wasn't at my peak performance. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was surrounded with people who do have wisdom and discernment.

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<v Speaker 3>They could speak it in my life, and I trusted

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<v Speaker 3>them in a moment. And then because I had an

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<v Speaker 3>awareness maybe there's something out there, then I treaded lightly

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<v Speaker 3>and then discovered there was, and it rescued us. And

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<v Speaker 3>so there's tremendous wisdom and hanging out with people with

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<v Speaker 3>wisdom and then having friends that have discernment and those

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<v Speaker 3>kinds of things. And the only way that you can

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<v Speaker 3>prove those is by the proof of their life, right right,

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<v Speaker 3>And uh so you don't just automatically assume why they

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<v Speaker 3>said a smart thing that must be true. What I

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<v Speaker 3>see as the trajectory of this guy's life, and at

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<v Speaker 3>least my experience with him, is he continues to grow

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<v Speaker 3>in wisdom and a discernment and following God, leaning into

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<v Speaker 3>his words. And he brought me several scriptures in that

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<v Speaker 3>same conversation to say, you know, be strong and courageous

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<v Speaker 3>and then also to a soft answer, turns away wrath.

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<v Speaker 3>He brought me a few verses that he just felt

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<v Speaker 3>like God was telling him in that moment. So he

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<v Speaker 3>affirmed his own wisdom and discernment with scripture in my

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<v Speaker 3>life and it wound up being true. That's great, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's very powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well hey let that be Let that be a

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<v Speaker 1>listen for all of us, right, need wise people in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, wise people in your life, and let's listen

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<v Speaker 1>to them even when we don't feel like we understand

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<v Speaker 1>it fully.

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<v Speaker 2>Just trust, trust in the gift.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so all right, well, hey that's our time, so

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you next time on the Bible Gush