WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.519 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:14.599 Hey, everybody, what I thought you were going to sing 5 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:14.960 it again? 6 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:17.839 Oh? No, I I just just okay, I was just 7 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:19.079 sort of snapping. 8 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:21.480 Okay, so I could have done this. I'm sorry to 9 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:22.320 interrupt you. Go ahead. 10 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:25.920 No, no, no, no, he's gonna say welcome because we are 11 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:28.839 in the middle of a really great series called Stump 12 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:32.200 the Pastor, and people have written in and it's my 13 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:36.759 job to say that every day. If you listen to 14 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:39.240 this episode and you think, man, I have a question, yeah, 15 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:41.479 we would love to hear it. So email us at 16 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:45.039 info at the Bible Guys dot com. And who are you? 17 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:47.479 Who am I? Yeah, I'm one of the Bible Guys. 18 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:50.960 Yeah, you didn't introduce yourself, Oh because I interrupted you. 19 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:53.880 I'm Chris and I'm Jeff and we're the Bible Guys. 20 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:55.960 That's right there, you go, just in case, in case 21 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.119 we have a listener going what is happening right now? 22 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.320 By the way, have we these people have we ever 23 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.759 introduced our last names? What about what about people who 24 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:04.799 don't go to heritage. 25 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:06.319 I don't want a bunch of stalkers looking me up. 26 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:09.879 Because they're all obsessed. 27 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:11.920 Yeah yeah, I actually I call you zar Ball all 28 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.359 the time. Oh on the episode, especially when you're not here, 29 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:16.159 I talk bad about you. 30 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:18.640 Oh yeah yeah yeah I've been told that. 31 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:24.680 Yeah. So anyways, Yeah, we're the Bible guys. Yeah, we're 32 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:26.200 glad the people are here and we're in a stumped 33 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:27.280 pastor episode. 34 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:31.359 Yes, and so today we are looking at two questions, 35 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.400 and the first one is can I just go ahead 36 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:35.120 and just read it? 37 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:35.760 Go ahead? 38 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:37.319 Okay, this is written. 39 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:39.840 By Mitchell t Hey Mitchell. 40 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.560 And here's what he says, if God took seven literal 41 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:49.519 days to make all of creation. I think it's written. 42 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:53.760 I think it's written wrong, because if I were, he. 43 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:56.680 Wrote it the way he wanted to read it. But no, 44 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.640 maybe it's a copy copy piste. 45 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:02.159 Yeah, here's the way. Here's the way it reads. If 46 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:05.519 God took seven literal days to make all of creation, 47 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:10.639 or the seven days is being used to describe figuratively 48 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:13.479 how God created the heavens and the earth period. 49 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:15.879 Oh, it's probably start. There's a there's a thing that 50 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:19.280 wasn't included. Yes, correct, My question is right. 51 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:21.680 And so then so then it says it goes on. 52 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:27.199 I lean more towards the seven figurative days because of 53 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.400 things like carbon dating and looking at science in a 54 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:35.759 cool way. God gave us to discover how he did 55 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:37.439 all of these amazing things. 56 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:41.120 So that's a good question. I think a lot of 57 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.759 people ask questions like that. Yeah, So basically he's saying, 58 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:48.639 my question is is it is was creation in a 59 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:52.599 literal seven days, twenty four hours or was it figurative? 60 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.439 Like he's talking about eons of time. 61 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.199 I've heard this too before because even g wears what 62 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:03.879 movie was it where it was one of the great 63 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:09.120 founders of the faith, was like a defense attorney? Was 64 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:16.639 it Amistad? The movie Amistad? Where it was like Thomas Jefferson. 65 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:19.759 I don't know who it was found founders of the nation. 66 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:22.719 Yeah, I don't know what it was, but basically it 67 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.759 was one of the great founders of our faith, of 68 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:28.199 our nation, of our nation. I'm sorry I said faith. 69 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.520 Goodness gracious, that's so funny. You're like, you're like, I 70 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:34.159 know what you're trying to say, and that's not what 71 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.319 you're saying. Yeah, the founders of our nation, fathers, founding fathers, 72 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.639 but he was answering it. And anyway, it was a 73 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:44.120 very supposed sort of you know, a movie wasn't real obviously, 74 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.319 but they were. They were. They were piecing us together. 75 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:48.159 And one of the things that they were trying to 76 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:51.120 stump them on was to break apart in the Bible. 77 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:54.479 And he says, he goes, well, how do you know 78 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:56.960 that it was seven days? And then they basically took 79 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:01.319 the next like thirty minutes to try to say that 80 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:05.120 what if the day wasn't an actual literal day. And 81 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.280 it was interesting because he says, that would mean that 82 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:10.199 nothing could be trusted in the Bible. They tried to 83 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.759 use the argument on the first couple chaps, you know, 84 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.599 first couple of verses and saying like that means that 85 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:17.839 nothing in the Bible was reliable and it all hinged 86 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:19.000 on creation. 87 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.120 Was was that a dramatization of the Scopes monkey trial? 88 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:26.240 It was a really it was a really famous It 89 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:29.240 was not it was a it was because that was 90 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:30.519 a famous trial back here. 91 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.040 It was freeing slaves. It was about freeing slaves. It 92 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.160 was about God. What the Bible says about God's value 93 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:36.560 of the person. 94 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:36.959 Ok. 95 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:38.319 And they were trying to break apart in the Bible. 96 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:38.959 That's okay. 97 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:43.920 Yeah, So anyway, all that to say this, I've seen 98 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:47.040 this argument played out in many times til many times, right, 99 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:49.959 And of course I went to a movie. But what 100 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.160 were you talking about? Monkey trials? What are you talking about? 101 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.680 That was a thing that happened back in the I 102 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:58.600 think it was the end of the nineteenth century or 103 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.319 maybe early twenties. It is, early twentieth century, and it 104 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:05.720 was an argument about faith in society and particularly with 105 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.759 regard to evolution. And so there was this big argument 106 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:11.720 and one of the and it was between two of 107 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:17.160 the great lawyers of the day, a world famous atheists 108 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:19.160 and then a world famous Christian, and so it was 109 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.079 a very very interesting thing, and they debated in court 110 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:26.399 over the veracity of the Bible and creation and all 111 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:27.839 those kind of things. So that's what I thought maybe 112 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.439 you were talking about, because that sounds very familiar. That's 113 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.319 been just been traumatized a couple of times. 114 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:36.319 So okay, okay, Well, I mean so literally, the Bible 115 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:40.959 says in Genesis that he called you know, the sun 116 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.480 and the moon, he created those day and night, and 117 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.439 he said it was night and then day, and he 118 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.360 called it a day, right, do you have that script 119 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:49.879 in front of you? 120 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:52.360 Well, in Genesis chapter one, I know, but. 121 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:54.240 I'm just saying, can you actually read from the Bible? 122 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:55.360 Let me pull it up. 123 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.879 I thought you had it with you, so I didn't, Okay, 124 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:02.600 but he said, but he city called that being the day. 125 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:04.240 So in other words, what I'm trying to say is 126 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:08.160 he literally defines a day, right, right, So he creates 127 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.079 the greater light which is the sun, and the lesser light, 128 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:13.319 which is the moon. 129 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:19.240 So you have, like in the New International version, it 130 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.120 just says, and there was evening and there was morning 131 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:25.399 the first day, oh right, and then the next one 132 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.360 and there was evening, there was morning in the second day, 133 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.160 and then there was evening and morning, and it was 134 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.959 a third day. So that's how God describes each of 135 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.720 the days of creation is just evening and then morning. 136 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:37.120 And that's a day, not. 137 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:41.000 A millennia of evenings and a millennia of mornings. Right, yeah, 138 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:42.800 So we believe. 139 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:47.199 It was literal single yeah, singular Yeah, I lean that way. 140 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:51.920 But let's let's be you know, honest. There are theologians 141 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:55.839 that debate this topic often, so let's give a couple 142 00:06:55.879 --> 00:07:01.079 of different perspectives. One would be seven literal twenty four 143 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:07.600 hour days as we experience them now evening morning, sunset, sunrise, daytime, nighttime, 144 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:12.879 twenty four hours. One spinning of the planet around right 145 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.040 right facing the sun, not facing the sun, facing the 146 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:19.600 sun again, twenty four hours. So that's one. That's the 147 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.680 literal reading on the page, that's the only way you'd 148 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:25.720 really read it literally on the page is evening and 149 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:26.399 morning is one. 150 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:30.279 Day, because the versus before he created the earth. 151 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.319 That's right. So then there's another one, another view that 152 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:39.879 these days are figurative and that they represent seasons of 153 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.720 time or eons of time where God, first of all, 154 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.240 there was nothing and then there was light, and light 155 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.759 was spreading throughout the universe over eons of time, and 156 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:52.279 then you know, over another billion years or whatever, then 157 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:55.319 God creates the heavens and the earth, and so this's 158 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:57.920 the stars and the planet, and then the planet cools, 159 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:02.800 and then finally there needs to be and an atmosphere, 160 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:04.439 and so then that would be the next day, and 161 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:07.279 that's you know, thousands or millions of years, billions of years, whatever, 162 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.160 and so each of these days would represent a phase 163 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:16.040 of creation over billions of years, and that idea was 164 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:20.959 not an idea until after Darwin's theory of evolution. People 165 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.759 weren't trying to figure out how to squeeze you know, 166 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:26.759 seven days or six days into now billions of years. 167 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.920 They weren't doing that until the theory of evolution came out, 168 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:34.639 and then Christians began trying to adapt the literal seven 169 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.519 day thing to billions of years over eons of time. 170 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:41.120 And then there's there's another gap or another idea called 171 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:44.360 the gap theory that falls in between those two, also 172 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.600 trying to accommodate evolution. It's called the gap theory, and 173 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:49.679 that would be that there'd be you know, billions of 174 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:53.120 years or eons of time between Genesis chapter one, verse 175 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.679 one and Genesis chapter one, verse two, and then that's 176 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:59.360 how all the things got created. And then and then 177 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:04.360 God came on this planet and specifically made those things himself. 178 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:07.159 So there's it. I would fall in the idea of 179 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:10.879 seven literal days for a couple different reasons. One the 180 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:13.279 he and I'm not a Hebrew expert, so I'm not 181 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:15.080 gonna argue this too much, but I do believe that 182 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:19.000 the word yam just literally means. The simplest translation is 183 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:21.679 just a twenty four hour day, and that's the word 184 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:27.639 that's used, and another one would be then well, then 185 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:30.519 how do you get all this? You know, my son 186 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:36.000 and I we went into the lou Ray Caverns in Virginia, 187 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:40.399 which are, according to National Geographic the most decorated caverns 188 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:44.360 with salagtites and slagmites in the world. And they're stunning, 189 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.320 just stunning. And so we're going through and the guide 190 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:50.720 is explaining and it takes you know, because it deposits, 191 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:53.919 you know, minuscule amount of limestone every time I drop 192 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.879 drips of water. And so then because of that, you 193 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.320 can work out time. And it took you know, so 194 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:02.600 many million year for this cave to come alive and 195 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:04.759 to have all these things. So on the way out, 196 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:06.240 my son was asking me, so, how do you feel 197 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:08.639 about that? Do you really think it took millions of years? 198 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:13.039 And I said, well, obviously, the science says it only 199 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.480 deposits this much. If the water runs faster, it's not 200 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:18.360 going to deposit. If it runs slower, it's not going 201 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.559 to deposit. If it goes at this speed, deposits a 202 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.399 little bit of limestone every time. That's how long it 203 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.720 takes He goes, well, how you justify that with seven 204 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:29.240 six days of creation? And I said, well, God made. 205 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:35.519 God made plants ready for food. God made birds that 206 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:38.360 could fly and fish that could swim. God made a 207 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:42.200 man and a woman and told them to reproduce so 208 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:44.159 they were old. Right. It didn't say he made a 209 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.919 baby boy and a baby girl and said he made 210 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.080 the man and then he made the woman. 211 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.080 And he didn't make seeds. He made plants right. 212 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:53.799 He made He made the plants with the seeds in them, right, 213 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.639 which means a pomegranate had all those seeds inside. A 214 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:58.960 tomato had all those seeds. It was a fully fleshed 215 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.480 out tomato. I said, here's how I think of it, 216 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:02.799 because my son was having a hard time with it. 217 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.519 He was a teenager. I said, you ever grab the 218 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:11.000 button on YouTube, scroll it and you and then stop it, 219 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.200 rate exactly where you need it in the show, and 220 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.679 then pick up from that point on. So yeah, I said, 221 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.440 what if God just did that? Because God's outside of time. 222 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:21.000 The Bible says that a thousand days day is a 223 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:22.799 thousand years. A thousand years as a day to God 224 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:25.960 basically is saying God isn't really affected by time. He's 225 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:28.360 outside of time. He's the one with the YouTube video 226 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.799 in front of him. We're in the YouTube video. He's 227 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:32.360 the one with YouTube video in front of him, and 228 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:34.039 he just scrolls it to exactly where it needs to 229 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:35.480 be for things to be able to get started at 230 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:37.759 the right point. And so I think he could make 231 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.960 something with age that didn't take that much time, and 232 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:45.159 because God's not affected by time, and so I don't 233 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:47.080 have a problem with it being a six day creation. 234 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.360 But what I do know is this, and I've had 235 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:54.039 conversations with scientists, evolutionary scientists about this, and I said, 236 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.919 here's what I can tell you. Go look at every 237 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.799 four thousand year old document in the world and tell 238 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:05.840 me any other document that gives this order. There was nothing, 239 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:12.039 then bang, there was everything. Light first, nothing, then bang, 240 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:17.480 everything light first. Then from there, as you go through 241 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.039 the list, let me pull it up. The very next 242 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:22.960 thing is the next thing that needed to be an order, 243 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:26.559 even according to evolutionists. So he says, first there's light. 244 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.200 Then he says, hey, we're going to need a cooling 245 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:31.960 planet that's going to need to create water, but we 246 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:33.720 have to have an atmosphere in order to keep the 247 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.000 water on our planet four thousand years ago. How did 248 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:40.960 they know that right? And what other document on the 249 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.039 planet had that idea right? Then he says, let the 250 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:49.240 water under the sky so oceans. Let the water above 251 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:52.919 be an atmosphere. And then he says, hey, now we're 252 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.879 going to need some plants. So before he puts animals on, 253 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.080 he puts food on. Then he puts fish in the sea, 254 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:03.279 he puts birds in the sky. He puts sun, moon 255 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:06.080 and stars for navigation. So now all of a sudden, 256 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.759 we can see the universe. So I'm not saying the 257 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:11.600 universe wasn't there on the first day or whatever, but 258 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:14.120 now we can see it through our atmosphere. So it's 259 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:16.200 thin enough to see through, but thick enough to be 260 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.679 able to keep the air on the planet. Now we've 261 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.440 got living creatures. We've got food for all the creatures 262 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:27.480 at this point. Then after that he makes people. So 263 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:30.600 people have sun, moon and stars, they have an atmosphere, 264 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.720 they have a perfect rotation of the planet, perfect distance 265 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.960 from the star. We've got the right heat, we've got 266 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.039 the right oxygen. We've got the right water, we've got 267 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:42.159 dry land, we've got animals, we've got food. It's in 268 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:45.720 the perfect order that even an evolutionary evolutionist would say, 269 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:48.320 we'd need it in this way. He says, fish and birds, 270 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:52.600 then dry land animals, and then people. It's exactly the 271 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.360 right order. So here's what I do know. God did 272 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:58.759 it the way you said. Just I think he did 273 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:01.360 it in six days inte that is six trillion years 274 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:04.519 or whatever. That's all but the way you say. And 275 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.279 so science is us discovering what God already made. And 276 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.440 I don't think that the issue is how did he 277 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:12.559 do it? The issue is whether he did it or 278 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.679 whether you've decided to just happen by random Yeah, you 279 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:16.440 know processes. 280 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:19.879 Yeah, And so the simple part of the answer to 281 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:23.759 that question is, you know, he says, well, carbon dating 282 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:26.080 suggests it takes this many years, but not if God 283 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:27.960 creates it with age. Yeah. 284 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:29.720 If it was created with age, then of course it 285 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:32.480 shows that kind of carbon right now. Yeah, because it 286 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.240 would take that long for the planet the cool. But 287 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:36.679 if God just fast forward to the point where it 288 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:39.519 was cool, because he's not bound by time, it's not 289 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:41.320 a problem. And I don't think that's too fanciful. I 290 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.000 don't think that's too out there. I mean, man, read 291 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:45.440 some of the crazy articles and popular mechanics and then 292 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.039 come back and tell me that that idea is nuts. 293 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.720 Unlimited universes and time and space and blah blah all 294 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:56.639 this stuff. Right, So it's a plausible response to a 295 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:00.320 big question. And then the difficulty is you're talking millions 296 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:05.360 of years anyways. None of us can fathom two hundred years, right, right, 297 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:08.720 so to talk about billions of years it is it's 298 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:11.759 a hypothetical situation. The question is not how did he 299 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:13.679 do it? The question is do you believe God did it? 300 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:15.559 That's really the biggest issue. 301 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:17.879 Okay, we're going to do the next question. 302 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.440 You're ready, which, by the way, read Lee Strobel's book 303 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.519 The Case for Creator Creator. Yeah, I think it's really solid. 304 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:27.679 Or Norm Geisler's book in Systematic Theology, and he just 305 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:30.320 has an entire section on God in creation that's phenomenal. 306 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.919 Okay, so here we go on. The next question was 307 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:38.879 written by Stephen W. K. Stephen and he says, after death, 308 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:42.519 is the separation of our being simply a division between 309 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:45.519 body and soul? Or does it involve a more complex 310 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.759 process of where body, soul, and spirit each take on 311 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:51.480 distinctive roles or destinations. 312 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:52.440 Yeah, Wow. 313 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:55.559 Yeah, that's okay, pretty great question. 314 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.399 So frame that just a little bit. What do you 315 00:15:58.399 --> 00:15:59.360 think he's asking here? 316 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.440 Well, I think that he is wondering about, at least 317 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:06.720 the way that I read it is, he is wondering about, 318 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.320 is it just like our physical body, right, and then 319 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.639 we have a soul? He's like, or is there is 320 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:19.000 there like a is there a distinct function between the 321 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:21.360 fact that we are made up of three things? So 322 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.919 Paul clearly names three distinct parts of our being. He 323 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:29.679 lists body, soul, and spirit, each meant to be made 324 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.440 holy and to be made whole before God. And so 325 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:36.320 I think he's just wondering more about that. 326 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:39.399 Yeah, right, this is part of what you know. The 327 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:42.559 Bible says that we were created in the image of God, 328 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:45.000 and God is a trinity, the Father's son and the 329 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:49.639 Holy Spirit, the physical body, the Holy Spirit, you know, 330 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:51.399 God being the Father. 331 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:54.159 So God has a way of creating in threes. 332 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:57.080 Yes, and so we are made in His image, and 333 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:59.200 we are also a trinity. We are a body, a 334 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:04.079 soul in our bodies. I mean, that was the easiest 335 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:06.200 one for us to figure out because we can you know, 336 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:12.559 feel them, see here, smell, taste, we experience all of 337 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:14.680 our existence in and through our bodies. 338 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.440 And the Greek word is soma, soa the physical part 339 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:19.559 of us that interacts with the material world. 340 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.599 Our soul is that part of us that is alive. 341 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:27.519 God breathed into man the breath of life, and man 342 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:33.799 became a living soul. The Bible talks about sometimes refers 343 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.000 to animals with the soul, right, So soul, it just 344 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.200 seems to be our life force, which is really interesting. 345 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:41.799 Did you see that article this last week about there 346 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:44.839 seems to be a radiation from all living things and 347 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:47.519 when they die, the radiation goes away the globe. No, 348 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.960 it just was just recent. There's a spectrum and this 349 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.799 is science. It's a scientist that wrote it. I could 350 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:55.400 probably find it if you give me a second here. 351 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:58.079 I just read this article. Is amazing that there's a 352 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:01.519 spectrum where they realize all living things have a radiation 353 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:06.079 glow and when that living thing ceases to live, the 354 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:10.359 glow goes away. Right, And so this non Christian scientist 355 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:12.519 was saying, so is this the soul? Is this the 356 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:15.160 life force of the human or of the living thing. 357 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:17.599 It's pretty interesting. So I could probably find it pretty 358 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:19.160 quickly for you. I should have looked it up before 359 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:23.039 we got into this. It was unmb I forgot what magazine. 360 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:27.680 So then your body is easy to figure out. That's 361 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:30.039 how you're existing, or that's how you're experiencing your existence. 362 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:32.720 Your soul is that life force that we know goes 363 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.519 away when a body dies. Did you know when our 364 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:36.920 human dies they weigh less after the death than before 365 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:38.519 the death. Did you know that? 366 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:40.119 I certainly did not know that. Yeah. 367 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:43.720 Yeah, it's almost immediate. Yeah, so it's really weird. That's 368 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:46.039 your life force is your soul, and then your spirit. 369 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:48.480 That's the thing I think it's confusing for us. Your 370 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.599 spirit is the thing that makes it possible for you 371 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:56.640 to engage with God. That's really who you are, right, 372 00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:58.960 that's really who you were made to be. And the 373 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:02.799 Bible matter that talks about we must worship God in 374 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:05.960 spirit because God is a spirit. So that's the part 375 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:09.240 that allows us to connect to our creator. And that's 376 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:11.759 the part. Remember in the Book of Genesis when God 377 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:14.319 said to Adam and Eve, if you eat this fruit, 378 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.000 you will surely die, and Satan goes, You're not going 379 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.319 to die, you know he did. He was playing He 380 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:23.359 was playing semantics with them. Was it true their bodies 381 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:27.440 didn't die immediately, Their bodies began dying, but didn't die immediately, 382 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:31.559 but their spirit, their ability to connect on the spiritual realm, 383 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:35.480 immediately ended. And so then when you read in First 384 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:38.880 and Second Corinthians, Paul talks about we are dead in 385 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:43.160 our sins, right, so God sees us as spiritually dead. 386 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:45.599 And then he says in First Corinthians, but you were 387 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.160 raised with Christ to walk in a brand new life, right. 388 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:52.160 And so the power of Jesus resurrection then makes it 389 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.160 possible for my spirit to come alive. And that's what 390 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.279 makes it possible for me to have a relationship with 391 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:02.160 God throughout eternity. Bod he goes to the grave. Some day, 392 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.039 you're going to get a new body. The Bible says, 393 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:06.319 a body of flesh and bone is what it says. 394 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:12.400 Doesn't mention blood, which is interesting. But Paul says, you're 395 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:15.839 going to receive a body of flesh and bone, and 396 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:20.079 this new body at the resurrection, we will be caught 397 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:23.880 up to meet him physical resurrection, and then we will 398 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.799 get a new body, and we will be with him 399 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:28.480 and we will be like him, for we should see 400 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:31.440 him as he is is what Paul says. 401 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:36.359