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Coming to you from crash studios
in Music City, USA, Nashville.

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This is the rich Redman show

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what's up, folks? Yep, it's that
time it's time for another

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exciting episode of the rich
Redmond show where we talk about

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all things music, motivation and
success. We love this stuff. We

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revel in it. We bathe in it.
This drives us. It informs us it

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keeps us motivated. I'm really
excited about today's guests.

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Usually, I have my partner Jim
McCarthy, Jim McCarthy.

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voiceovers.com No Jim for a
very, very long time. He's doing

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something life changing today.
He says I'm so sorry to miss

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Jake, but I get them all to
myself. Today's guests. This is

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I've been waiting on this one
for a long long time. Hailing

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originally from Long Island now
calling Nashville home for the

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last 11 years Real Time flies he
attended the University of Arts

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in Philly. And upon moving to
Nashville in 2013 quickly

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acquired a life changing gig
with award winning recording

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artists Luke combs Of course I'm
talking about our friend Jake

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summers. What's up, buddy? Go
good. How you doing? You like

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wow, that was very dramatic drum
roll. So if you guys are just

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listening to this, Jake is in
his recording studio. And I tell

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him the neighborhood you live in
what is it North West Nashville?

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Yeah, West Nashville.

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I've been here in this area for

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seven years now. Well, you're
smart you took you took your

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money and you and you bought a
home and that's the American

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dream right? Especially if
you're a drummer you you got I

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tell the kids all the time you
got to be Boom shmack That that

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beat that you hear a guitar
center the boom being basketball

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good things bank. That's the one
that buys your home and I'm

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looking at your studio it's all
out he muted out from our our

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friend Mitch Zlotnik. What's up
Mitch, how are you buddy and you

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came over it did my studio, you
know, I hammer in a nail and we

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worked and we made the studio
look better and sound better.

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It's a great product that that
Mitch learned a lot from him and

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he does a fantastic job. And
he's gotten to do many drummers

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around the country and probably
I don't know if he's on the

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world yet, but it leaves the
country a lot of knowing that

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guy. He's like, I mean, he is a
go getter. He's got like energy.

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And, and we had it was good. It
was like, it was almost like I

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broke out the gentleman's you
know, we had some like,

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cookies and we had coffee and we
kind of made a day of it. Man.

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That was that was really fun. I
think that was like, what, three

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years ago already? Something
like that. Wow. Yeah, I think

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so. Yeah, man. You didn't mind
that. He was like, Hey, I'm

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gonna come back and do Rich's
coxae with you. I was like, of

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course. Yeah.

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That long. I was like, Sure.
Now, you said you were keeping

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your dogs outside for this
interview? Well, how many dogs

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got you got more than one, two.
Now, what's the what's the make

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and the model of the dog? So

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here's three years old. They're
both girls. She is a boxer like

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a mutant boxer with like a hint
of lab. Okay, other one we

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adopted. She's now one and a
half. We got her at seven

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months. She is a Great Dane.

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She came from a unfortunate
background. I'll say that very

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important situation shows you
you're not a massive Great Dane,

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which is kind of nice. So this
is like like we're talking like

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Marmaduke we're talking like big
poops big food bills, big vet

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bills.

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Your vet bills aren't as bad as
you think. Just because

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thankfully, they don't have to
go to the vet vet often. Food.

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Yeah, yeah. From time to time,
but big poops can be Yeah, but

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it used to it.

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It reminds me of Chevy Chase and
Randy Quaid in the Christmas

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movie where they're shopping.
And he's got has that gigantic

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industrial sized bag of Alpo.
Dog food he puts on the cart.

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Crazy. So let's get into it.
Man, this is so good to do this.

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you know, you moved to town and
we quickly connected and did the

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coffee and collage thing. And he
and you. You did this in such a

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professional manner. You got
connected so quickly. How did

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this happen? Where you moved to
Nashville and within one year,

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you got a life changing
opportunity. Tell us what the

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secret sauces? Yeah, I mean, as
you know, I think networking is

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such a huge proponent in this
industry. And I think you I

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think it's very hard to be an
introvert in our industry,

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because you really have to break
out of that shell to meet people

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and you can't be afraid to talk
to anybody of you know, any

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genre or any type of background
background because you never

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know where it can lead and you
know

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through going to nurse
University of the Arts, and one

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of my former teachers there, he
knew and alumni here that he put

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me in touch with her. Second
day. She was like, the second

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day I was here. She was like,
I'm, you know, going to a party

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on Music Row.

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Do you want to call in the
essence? Sure, I'd love to. I

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spoke to a bunch of people
there. What happened me a

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drummer. Do you know Cody? Lepo?
Yeah, of course. He was there.

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We were chatting. He said, I'm
playing downtown tonight. Come

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sit in if you'd like I said,
Yes, of course. You know, as you

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say, say yes. Whenever you can,
until you essentially don't have

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to. I went sat and played two
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A very inebriated bass player
had happened to walk in. I

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walked off the stage. He thought
it was my gig. I said, I just

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moved here yesterday. He said,
We're all just tuned drummers

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for our group tomorrow come
audition I did.

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About a half hour to an hour
later, I got a text saying, Hey,

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you got the gig. I proceeded to
sit in for the rest of that

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week. And the beginning of the
next week, I post playing

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downtown full time.

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Middle of my second week in
town, which I think is pretty

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unheard of. And then

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even to backtrack, when I first
came to visit Nashville, there

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is a wonderful store in the
gorge called tooled hippies was

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helping me and he was a drummer.

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We connected he say, when you
come to town, let's get coffee

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we did. About five months in the
town, he shot me a text and

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said, Hey, I'm leaving this
group can be a great foot in the

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door for you for touring. I
ended up doing the audition for

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that got that gig the debt for
about six months and was like,

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This is great, but it's not what
I really want to do to the max

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of what I can, my potential can
be. Yeah. So I took a couple

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lessons with Jim Riley.

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Leaving this group and you know,

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what should I do next? How do I
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And he said, Go to writers
rounds. I went to Tinder found a

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Mondrian, there was around
quarter revival. I didn't know a

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single soul there. This was
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a walk in and you've been there.
It's small. It's kind of grungy

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when the cool a lot the tin roof
down on Demonbreun. Yeah, this

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long, it's just a long room.
Now, Jake, I don't know if I

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told you when we connected but I
used to be the drummer in the

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house span there in the year
2000. Wearing my bowling shirts,

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and playing for the sweaty
masses there. And it was with

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this guy name. It was Henry and
the Seahawks. And his whole

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thing is we play for four hours.
No breaks. I was like, Well, you

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might not break. But I'm gonna
pay you when I want to be Yeah.

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But anyways, yeah. So you go to
the tin roof and you're shaking

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hands and doing the shaking
hands and I walked in. It's

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like, I think a lot of this
industry at the same time is

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timing and luck. And, obviously,
yes, hard work and

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determination.

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So I walk in, and I'm watching
this riders round, I'm in make

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my way to the front of the stage
because of how crowded it saw

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watch from the back. It's one
guy, the scroll in Jordan,

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Elena, and then Luke. I didn't
know who any of them were. I

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just went to meet people. And I
caught Luke's last song, which

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was she got the best to me.

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Back to music, guitar, sat it
down number I just went up and

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talked to him afterwards said,
Hey, man, I really liked your

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song and I love your voice. He
said, Thanks, man. You know,

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what do you do? And I said, I
play drums. I went to college

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for here and all that stuff. So
did my whole life. Did he care

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about that part? I don't really
know. Obviously, he also likes

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to tell the story a little
differently. But you know, I

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definitely know that I would not
go and say Hey, buddy, you need

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a drummer.

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Hey, buddy. But he said I need a
drummer for a gig next week you

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want to play and I said I'd love
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I was the first one to the
rehearsal. 30 minutes early with

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all my stuff set up ready to go.

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I'd also say it was slightly my
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Did that did the gig couple days
later. And then we hung out once

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a week, every week for the next
month, month and a half to get

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to know each other's playing
video games and all that stuff.

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And well, that is smart. A lot
of people don't think about

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that. Like, like, the human side
of things. Exactly. You know,

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it's like cool. You put one gig
together. But what are they like

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off the gig? And

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yeah, after that, I think he's
just writing for like, a month

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or so. And then he called me and
said, Hey, I'd love for you to

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be my guy full time. Do you want
to do this? I said, Yeah, I'd

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love to. And that was, I think
still 2014 And so I did a gig in

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2014. And then we were hanging
out a bunch and then we really

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started to get going 2015

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gone over 150 dates a year, the
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weekend warrior stuff. And it
was fantastic. And

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you know, I definitely think I

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have proven myself by I've not
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Incredible. Congratulations. And
that's a decade and you're gonna

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get your watch

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now, you're gonna

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get used to Buddy, I don't know,
maybe you get a Casio. But um,

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but, you know, the funny thing
is is that you changed your life

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by having enough

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confidence in yourself and
enough gumption and enough

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follow through to take the leap
to walk the five feet over to

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shake the guy's hand to
introduce yourself. And you also

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you quickly got in there like,
Hey, I'm not a guy off the

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street. I studied this. This is
my passion. This is my focus.

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I'm putting I put in 10s of
1000s of hours. I think I could

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be of a benefit to you. What I'm
impressed with him about is he

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must have had a great feeling,
but he was willing to hire you

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for a job without ever hearing
you play. Exactly. Well, I

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remember. So apparently, the
bandleader the old bandleader

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was there. And I guess he had
gone up there and said, Hey,

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man, I found the drummer for the
gig and the guy goes, you're

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just gonna hire some guy you
met, you don't even know if he

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could play. He said, I have a
good feeling. You know, with

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something probably along the
lines of that. And that's also I

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do rehearsal. Because if you
can't cut it through the first

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two or three songs, okay, well,
then they gotta go. But I did my

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homework. I was practicing from
9am to 9pm. Every day till then,

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you know, I had all my stuff
ready. I was there. So when they

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got there, it's like, man,

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he's good. He's ready to go. You
were over prepared, which is the

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biggest thing. Yeah. And then I
think if you don't take that

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chance to walk over to whoever
it may be, you don't know who

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you're talking to, or that can
lead to or who they know. Then

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you might miss out on an
opportunity. Yeah, it could be a

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session. It could be, you know,

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a songwriting type of deal.

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Yeah, man. Well,
congratulations. That that that

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is a thing where you had that
willingness to put one foot

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forward and to shake his hand
firm handshake looked him in the

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eyes. He had a great feeling
about you. He gave me the

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opportunity and your way of
saying thank you was 30 minutes

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early waiting on them to arrive,
you were over prepared. And next

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thing you know, you've got the
gig. Here you are 10 years

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later, never missed a show. I
still haven't missed a show

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either. One show the day that my
grandparents died the same day,

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I had to sub the show out and
it's a horrible, horrible reason

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to sell out a show. But that's
the thing is you're you play

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jetlag, you play sick, you play,
you know, it, the show must go

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on. And that is that is a really
great thing. It's pretty wild. I

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remember I was talking to my
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Last year, my grandma is up in
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healthy. Be You know, you kind
of think about okay, like, am I

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gonna get the phone call one day
about that. And I was talking to

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my dad, and I was like, hey,
like, I know, she's up there and

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age and all that stuff. And you
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I said I, you know,

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would you guys want me to sub a
show? If that took place? He

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goes, he said, No Work comes
first. Whenever that happens,

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we'll plan that around. You
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interesting. Yeah. Apparently we
miss a lot, dude.

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Yeah, oh, yeah. You know, I've
missed so many friends, weddings

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and stuff, but they have to
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industry, I mean, my dad, with
what he did for work, he missed

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a lot of weddings to being a
doctor, you know, he was on call

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and all that stuff. So he
understands like Work comes

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first. So I was gonna ask you,
what do your parents do? You got

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a doctor. They're both retired
now. My, my dad was a doctor. He

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was an OB GYN, and my mom was a
headhunter. So wow, I always

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make jokes about headhunters.
Like I don't think our industry

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works on hand, headhunters or
resumes or monster.com. Yeah,

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there were headhunters out
there. The people that would go

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after like, hey, this, this,
this corporation needs this

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position filled, and they go out
look into scalp, scalp skulls

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and find the right person.
Right. Yeah, you know, I kind of

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find it. Interesting that with
the LinkedIn and stuff like, you

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know, I know, we're both on
there and so are plenty of other

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people like Mark showman and
stuff. And I'm like,

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is Clinton really beneficial for
me? Well, I, I have never gotten

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a job from LinkedIn, but you
might as well just be on there.

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Right? Yeah, it's like, do I
really need to be on there? It's

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not like, I feel like that's
more from the corporate world

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than musicians. Yeah, you know,
jam card. Yeah, I like jam cart.

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I was like, an early adapter. It
was. I like it a lot. It's um,

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it's it's more la centric, which
is, you know, makes sense.

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Because Elmo is it lives in Los
Angeles. But you might as well

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be on there. Yeah, I'm on there.
And it's, you know, super cool.

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Yeah. Don't put that anything
past you. Because what I like

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about you is if there's
something to be had, if there's

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some experience that needs to be
soaked up if there's some place

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where you want to you

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You throw your hat in the ring,
you know what I mean? You're

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just like, oh, yeah, I'll be on
there. Oh, tick tock, I better

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get on there. Oh, LinkedIn, I
should probably, you know what I

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mean? And it's like, and that's
why I even saw how you have

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developed your career, you do
look to people that are doing

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what you want to do. And you ask
them and you say, what did you

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do to do it? And then you either
do that exact same thing, or you

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do something very similar to
like, like clinics, I was like,

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okay, when I was out with like,
opening up for the Rascal Flatts

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in the early days, Jim would be
gone every day doing a clinic. I

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was like, How can I get my hands
on that kind of sit? How can I

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get in there and you just do it.
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now you got a twist, where you
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now the last two and a half
years and you know when he

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crazy story about he and I
meeting, before he even got the

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gig was via jam card. We got
coffee. We were talking music

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and talking just life in
everything, just call me in the

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right way. And then like a year
later, so he had played with our

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bandleader. Now,

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when he was like 15, Matt was
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auditioning guys is between Matt
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And our bandleader called
probably each of us and he

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called me and said, hey, you
know, we don't have time to

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audition between these two guys
who do choose. And I said, Well,

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I'm not choosing this guy,
because you and you and him have

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a history together by playing.
But he and I got coffee, and we

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really hit it off. And I just
think it'd be a good fit. And

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that's how that kind of came to
be. And I was doing a clinic at

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Denver for Denver percussion in
2022. And Matt was like, Hey,

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where are you going? I was like,
Oh, I'm doing a clinic at this

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drugstore. He goes, Oh, sweet,
like, I've done some as well.

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Would you want to do it
together. And immediately the

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light bulb went off in my head
of like, nobody else is doing

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this. You never see rhythm
section clinics. And drums and

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bass are the link to everything.
They hold everything together.

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And I just thought

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people can really benefit from
this man do their thing. It's

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like, yeah, you can go on
YouTube and watch any buddy of

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whatever caliber do their thing
but you can't ask questions

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through YouTube, or Instagram or
Tiktok, or whatever. You know.

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is such an important thing to
benefit people of all ages. And

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talk about the importance of
networking, playing to a click.

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You know, for me, I talked about
open handed playing because

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people are always like, Oh, you
playing a righty Kip that you'll

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have Tanda said, yes. But I'm
actually ambidextrous. Because

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my ride I play my right hand
where most lefties would play

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with their left hand. Yeah, like
so I'm gonna fill you with Yeah,

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like Simon Phillips or Carter,
but he actually is. Carter has

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got two rides. But I'm like,
Well, I took my ride and put in

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my lap. There's a huge hole
here. Yeah, the groove doesn't

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change or sound any different.
When we play my hi hat here and

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my ride here. I'm going to do it
because that's all I've ever

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done. So do you really feel like
you're truly like God given

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ambidextrous, or it's as a
result of times in the trenches

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of you focusing in on saying, I
can ride with my ride? I can

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ride with my left, you know what
I mean?

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So I hit a golf ball. Do you
feel like there's one limb that

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has a little bit when you break
out the stick control book? He's

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like, little bit more smart?
Yeah, yeah.

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Honestly, I feel like, in a
weird way, even though left

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handed, I think sometimes my
right hand is better than my

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left.

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Yeah. Because, you know, I'm
always, for the most part, doing

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a tune for my right hand
compared to.

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I mean, they're definitely
equal. But I think just having

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most of your back between two
and four with your right hand is

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going to be your more
comfortable hand. Yeah, and I

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mean, I'm exactly opposite.
Like, I'm the one who wakes up

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in the morning going, God, I can
tell I played about 10,000

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backbeats last night, because
it's the left hand it's like,

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ooh, it's all tingly blue. But
I've seen you from side stage

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pull the open handed trick.
Yeah, well, you know, What first

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got me into it is like, oh,
first of all, you know, it's in

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the Gary Chafee book. The new
breed is like a godsend. Like,

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if you do that book correctly.
It's like, a lot of us at North

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Texas back in the 90s. Yeah, we
had we had two high hats like

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and so it was one that was like,
let's let's get two high hats

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happening. Let's do the Gary
Chester book. And you do it. And

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then I think, you know, back in
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you know, Kenny with Mellencamp
was playing a lot of the same

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beats over and over. But John
wanted him to reinvent the wheel

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on every song so he tried the
openhanded thing to make it

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sound like a little bit more
self taught and sloppy, which is

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which is a great, that's that's
when I do it because I know that

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my left hand is not going to be
as confident and detail oriented

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with these fingers as the

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Right, because the right so he's
gonna deem that getting that

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getting Gaga thing, right? So
that's when I go to it but you

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play very clean this way. And I
mean the idea of going to a

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different hand on that blows my
mind like I would never do that

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in public. I'm asking the cool
thing too is you know, like, my

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setup is somewhat comparable to
yours minus the right hi hat.

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Boy two crashes ride China
China. Yeah. Gotta have that

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even though our bandleader hates
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be No, it's got to be all the
you have a Luke loves it moocow

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Yeah, that's Luke comes over.
And where's the hell out of that

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damn thing. There is finally a
small crack in it that my tech

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pointed out last week. And I was
like, let's just use it till it

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breaks. Is it the holy China?
Yes. And mine still has the Chad

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Smith logo on it. Dude, it so
pull that off the road and save

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it. I'm going to Well, I'm not
going to send it to Stankey

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because I know he'd probably
lose his mind.

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Just to hold on to it. That is
the greatest Chinese symbol ever

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invented. I think it's amazing.
I have never heard a Chinese

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symbol. Sexier that has that.
Tell. I told Chris. Chris stanky

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is our a&r guy at Sabian. For
you kids that are looking for

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endorsements.

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Oh, Chris has email addresses
Chris.

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It's telling you as phone number
is you know, it's the best

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sounding thing China symbol on
the planet. I mean, I just I

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love all their symbols. I use
the complex line. Yeah.

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I've only broken

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two or three of them out of the
I think what they came out in

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2020. Since then, I got them on
SNL for the first time, which

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was super cool. And then yeah,
my high hats other 15 inch big

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cup complex hats, which I love.
Yeah, on as sounds so good. And

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they're thin. But they hold up,
they're very durable. And they

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cut in but they also get it get
in and out of the music quickly.

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It's, it's, you know, going back
to the open handed stuff, yeah,

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you can crash here, you can
crash here. And, you know, I

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learned this from you. You got
to play to the back of the room.

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The people who are in the upper
deck, you got to make them feel

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like they're right in the pit.
So it's like, the bigger the

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motion, the more silly you look,
the better. Upper Deck is a

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polite more polite way of saying
cheap seats but

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there's actually no cheap seats
in the world and nothing is

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cheap in the world. Forget it.
You know, if you're gonna go see

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a concert, you know, that stuff
is still pretty robust and then

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you got to pay for your parking
and your babysitter and then

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you're you're live. You're gonna
be drinking 18 bucks a pop.

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Hey, it's just money. You can't
take it with you. Right?

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When somebody tells me they said
you never see

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a moving truck behind a hearse.

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That's funny, but I'm drinking
out of my I'd hit that coffee

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mug today. I thought I'd give
Dave a little love here. Bassam

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Richard the rich Redmond mugs
are all dirty. They're all in

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the in the dishwasher. So Dave,
we love you, man. Keep the

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thing. We love the warts and all
approach. It's a great podcast,

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right? I listen to I listen to
it. You know, I've never been on

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it. Well, Dave, check this. You
know, Jake wants. He did a whole

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Nashville series and I didn't
make it either. I didn't make

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the cut. Oh, well. It's upon
Dave. You can now it's alright.

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I was on a very early episode
like 12 years ago. That's cool,

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though. He's been doing it for
that long. He knows integrate.

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He's the OG he really is. Okay,
so this openhanded thing. Where

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did where your teachers doubling
down on this? Who are some of

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your teachers list? Those guys
offer us? Yeah, um, so it's a

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you definitely know. Some of
them. Or probably all of them. I

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know. PacSun right. Action.
Jerry Brown. Never met Jerry

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Brown. Be you know who he plays
for right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Dom Femi Bolero guy rest his
soul and peace.

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John for Vicki whenever DOM was
out of the country, I liked and

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Mark de Gianni the Gianni De
Tutsis. The Gianni, I moved here

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and I took a couple lessons with
Riley took one lesson with Ben

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Caesar just for the heck of it.
And I took a few Murphy. And

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yeah, I still like to kind of
have the

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tweaking lessons of like, hey,
what do you think I can improve

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on type of thing. And the last
two are with Kevin and the first

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one was great. And then the
second one was just like Hey,

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can't get the tweaker just to
like, see what you think. And he

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was like, Dude, you're good. I
was like,

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okay, yeah, it's I always want
to get better and grow my

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playing but it's like, I feel
like the fun

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non

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practical things you want to
work out at home, you can't

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really use for the gig.

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But I'm always trying to get
better in some regard of like, I

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saw this guy

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on one of the social media pages
and he was just doing like, left

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kick, kick, left kick, kick,
right kick, right kick kick. And

430
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,810
was like, oh, you know, like I
could, if I worked it up to

431
00:25:21,810 --> 00:25:26,010
speed. Use that in my soul for
this year, which I have. But

432
00:25:26,220 --> 00:25:27,510
just little things like that.

433
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,320
What is your soul this year?
Does it come over a vamp is in

434
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,740
the middle of the song to the
guys leave the stage? So we do a

435
00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:39,480
medley and my solo comes after
our keys player singers dropped

436
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,160
his Jupiter. And it's kinda
like, we actually my solo Cana

437
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:50,070
kicks, the tempo of Dirks
Bentley's, what was I thinking?

438
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,410
So I solo and then our other
guitar player, I kind of at the

439
00:25:55,410 --> 00:26:01,200
end of my solo, build up into
Luke then announcing him into

440
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:07,140
that song, or that tempo. And I
get like a pretty decent solo,

441
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:10,530
decent amount of bars instead of
like one v one type of deal that

442
00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:13,170
we've been doing the last couple
of years. And yeah, not easy to

443
00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:15,930
do that. Like it's like, oh, you
solo for a bar? You You're

444
00:26:15,930 --> 00:26:18,060
trading with the bass player,
and it's every other bar, and

445
00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:19,020
you can't really

446
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:24,720
grow a solo by doing that, like
solo groove, solo groove. And

447
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,940
it's like, yeah, what about just
building the idea? So I'm glad I

448
00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:34,080
finally I get to like, do like a
full solo. Heck, yeah, man. I'll

449
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,970
have to see that I have to come
out and see you guys. Because

450
00:26:36,090 --> 00:26:40,290
now we were on tour together.
2018. And that was fun. What's

451
00:26:40,290 --> 00:26:42,870
the deal with like, you know,
Luke's always telling you to

452
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:45,060
take your shirt off, and you're
like, Yeah, boss.

453
00:26:46,290 --> 00:26:48,810
Are you still doing that? Yeah,
it's kind of become a thing.

454
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,660
I've done it though. I did it
both times last week, just for

455
00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:55,950
the encore. I did it. The last
couple shows. Yeah.

456
00:26:57,930 --> 00:27:00,570
Sometimes he was just like, we
didn't we were in Buffalo a

457
00:27:00,570 --> 00:27:04,050
couple of weekends ago. And it's
freezing cold. So he had some

458
00:27:04,050 --> 00:27:08,670
mercy to long sleeve shirts, a
sweatshirt. And then one of our

459
00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:11,790
buddies Brothers is the long
snapper for the bills. And he

460
00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:13,830
was like, Hey, you got to wear
his jersey.

461
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,780
He's number 69. So I wore it.
And then now I have it at home

462
00:27:18,780 --> 00:27:20,850
because I had him sign it and
all that stuff. Super good,

463
00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:25,590
dude. And Luke was like, Hey,
will you take your shirt off for

464
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:26,550
the encore? And I was like,

465
00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:30,630
yeah, for you. Why not? And our
keys player did it as well. But

466
00:27:30,990 --> 00:27:35,700
if you really want to last with
my nipples, I mean, so they

467
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:37,230
could do that already,
unfortunately, but.

468
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,880
But our keys player did as well.
And he doesn't play that much.

469
00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:46,020
So he's up there doing like
this. Keep him warm. And um, you

470
00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:49,950
know, I'm still playing a little
bit, so I'm fine. But uh, yeah,

471
00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:53,490
it just kind of has become a
thing. I love that. Yeah.

472
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:57,660
Well, things are great. And it
seems like you guys have a

473
00:27:57,660 --> 00:28:00,210
really nice camaraderie with the
band. Like,

474
00:28:01,290 --> 00:28:04,320
it's great. It's really like a
family. It's like, it really is

475
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,740
your I Am I crazy and saying you
see these guys More than you see

476
00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:10,260
anyone else in your life. I
mean, really like friends, blood

477
00:28:10,260 --> 00:28:12,960
family, especially you with the
number of dates you guys are

478
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,450
doing. I mean, you had a huge
world tour last year, where

479
00:28:15,450 --> 00:28:19,830
you're going to Australia and
the UK and the Nordic glands and

480
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:22,530
like you're all over the globe.
You know?

481
00:28:23,580 --> 00:28:27,150
How many shows you guys do it?
How many shows you guys think we

482
00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:31,500
did like 65? I think that's
manageable. But it's when you

483
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,440
get when when you start crossing
international waters, it gets

484
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,220
more time consuming very much
when you're gone for like three,

485
00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:41,190
three and a half weeks at a time
and all that stuff. Yeah, this

486
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:42,660
year, I think we're only doing

487
00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:46,500
it's 13 weakens of the actual
tour. And we're already almost

488
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,560
halfway through. Wow, we're
doing I think a couple of

489
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,510
festivals. And that's kind of
it.

490
00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:54,030
Totally like,

491
00:28:55,170 --> 00:28:58,170
the Hertie are 335 shows of the
year, which is not that at all.

492
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,810
Yeah. So like, last year, like
our first like real light year,

493
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,640
so we have off every holiday so
we've off next. Not this

494
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,220
weekend, but the weekend after
for more Memorial Day and then

495
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:16,380
we got like a couple of weekends
and then we have off after so

496
00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:20,580
far for about two and a half
weeks. Hmm, so fine. I lay dude.

497
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,970
No, I bad buddy. I'm telling
you. It's like, it's so crazy

498
00:29:26,970 --> 00:29:29,430
that you got what? How old? were
you when you got the job? Like

499
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:34,740
24? Yeah, 24 We were both 20
Well, he is 24 I'm like a couple

500
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:35,760
of months.

501
00:29:37,380 --> 00:29:40,470
Older than me. He was. You're
such a young buck buddy. Such a

502
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:43,800
young buck. We're about 24 Now,
you know he's 34 and I'm gonna

503
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,020
be 34 And the day before your
birthday, who got to do a double

504
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:52,500
E Oh, yeah, I'm down. That's so
cool that you that we have a

505
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:54,480
birthday a day apart from each
other. And then my buddy Eric

506
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,810
How big is like a day or? I
think he's on the 27th so your

507
00:29:57,810 --> 00:30:00,000
24th I'm 25th He's the 27th My
brother

508
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,810
Are Jason is the 23rd Well, no,
I'm actually the day after you.

509
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,600
Sorry. You're the 26th Okay,
yeah. And then Eric How big is

510
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,690
the 27th? So it's it's not so
all this Leo's running around

511
00:30:09,690 --> 00:30:13,110
there. You know who else is a
Leo da ru Jones? You know, I

512
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:16,650
still haven't met him. What's
that? I still haven't met him.

513
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,010
Oh, you got you got to meet him.
Yeah, he's he's nice man. He's a

514
00:30:20,010 --> 00:30:22,140
well, you know, the thing is, is
that he makes me feel lazy. He's

515
00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:26,490
always working with some DJ over
and you know, playing some plays

516
00:30:26,490 --> 00:30:31,260
over on the east side, or he's
doing a sweet. He's always doing

517
00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:34,020
so it's actually our bass player
in our doing a Sweetwater

518
00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:39,780
clinic. November 7. Yeah, yeah.
So what should be cool? That'd

519
00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:41,220
be great. Man. We want to have
you guys.

520
00:30:42,390 --> 00:30:46,590
Awesome. That's nice. It's nice.
When when your reputation starts

521
00:30:46,590 --> 00:30:50,790
to precede you, you put in the
hard work and you create this

522
00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:54,870
great product. People enjoy it.
And then before, you know,

523
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:57,180
instead of you having to make
phone calls going, Hey, I'm

524
00:30:57,180 --> 00:31:00,660
going to be in town you want to
they call you and say, I see

525
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:04,680
you're coming to town. Can we do
something? Which is great. I

526
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,290
mean, we actually have often
they're like we are, when are

527
00:31:07,290 --> 00:31:10,170
you guys free? And we're like,
well, we're free this time. But

528
00:31:10,170 --> 00:31:13,920
for all the other clinics that
we do, when we get our schedule,

529
00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:15,480
pretty much like a year out.

530
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:19,260
We're immediate, like we started
calling for this year in

531
00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:22,380
November last year, we call we
make all the calls and all that

532
00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:26,370
stuff. Which I mean it's putting
the work in, but it's worth it.

533
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,060
Totally. Yeah. You're an
educator. And you're also a

534
00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:32,490
recording drummer, you're
sitting there at your place

535
00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:36,990
right there. The tracks come in.
And you engineer yourself. Yeah,

536
00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:41,580
I use Pro Tools. And I just
essentially send raw drums like

537
00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:44,070
I've tracked in the song right
after this.

538
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:47,820
I'm coming over to play
percussion afterwards. Am I

539
00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:50,610
doing shaker temporary and on
your track are more than welcome

540
00:31:50,610 --> 00:31:50,850
to

541
00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:58,500
I got plenty, you know I got one
of those who makes a big fat

542
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:00,330
snare drum I think I don't know
if they still make it that

543
00:32:00,330 --> 00:32:05,430
Brooklyn Lager shaker. It's in
that Brooklyn Lager can but it's

544
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:07,140
a shaker. Oh, wow.

545
00:32:09,150 --> 00:32:11,310
I'm gonna take a precaution. So
I have a bunch of their shakers

546
00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:13,140
and then ice. Yeah.

547
00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:18,780
But doing that after this, and
then I teach from home, I teach

548
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,060
people overseas, I actually
teach the drummer who is in the

549
00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:28,080
Luke combs tribute experience. I
love it. You know, you've made

550
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,500
it when that happens, because
there's an owl Dean. There's

551
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:33,330
several LD attributes, right?

552
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:37,710
What do they call it? Al Dean
unhinged or I forget what it is.

553
00:32:37,710 --> 00:32:40,620
But But yeah, I've never met the
drummer from the band. Have you

554
00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:45,810
seen the guy who obviously does
the part of ElDeen in Vegas

555
00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:49,260
tribute? He has the same exact
tattoos as Jason which blows my

556
00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:53,280
mind. Oh, that's a commitment.
I'm like, how far is this? Like

557
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,600
this guy went full send. I mean,
I would just paint them on or I

558
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,110
don't know. Jeez, like maybe
henna tattoo them on but like

559
00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:02,910
fully them is

560
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:07,260
your branded for life. Well,
also he could probably walk

561
00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:10,170
around Vegas and go like hey,
I'm ElDeen and he gets

562
00:33:10,170 --> 00:33:12,330
preferential seating and
restaurants and such. You know

563
00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:14,580
what I mean? You never know.

564
00:33:16,110 --> 00:33:19,560
Little scheme. You're right
there. That's crazy. So what

565
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,810
about the gear? You and I share
a secret? not so secret. It's

566
00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:28,800
not a big deal. How I love
Yamaha recording customs. We

567
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,780
both love them, but you're
playing crabby out all right.

568
00:33:31,170 --> 00:33:35,580
Yes, I joined Krabi auto
December of 2022. They've been

569
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:36,540
fantastic.

570
00:33:38,130 --> 00:33:42,900
I absolutely love their drums. I
think that they are truly pieces

571
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:46,800
of art. And they really can be
furniture if you just set them

572
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,580
up in your house.

573
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:51,870
All solid shell drums even if
you do stacks, like I have a

574
00:33:51,870 --> 00:33:54,870
snare drum here at the house
that it's on the outside. It's a

575
00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:59,040
black paint, but to Cherry
inlays and in the inside is a

576
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,150
maple cherry and walnut stack 30
degree bearing and it sounds

577
00:34:03,150 --> 00:34:04,020
fantastic.

578
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:12,090
My kit though is a walnut kit,
hybrid edges with cherry inlay

579
00:34:12,990 --> 00:34:15,750
in the hoops of my kick drum or
walnut inlay.

580
00:34:18,450 --> 00:34:22,440
And it just sounds amazing. Have
you had trouble getting backline

581
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:27,000
crabby autos in the in the major
markets or, um, do they know

582
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:32,040
that they're not everywhere? So
we just did a charity event. It

583
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,650
was Matthew McConaughey. Hey,
Jack Ingram and Mac. I think

584
00:34:37,650 --> 00:34:42,330
it's Mack Jones and in Austin,
in Austin a couple of weeks ago

585
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,400
and I told our production
manager since I didn't think

586
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,240
Krabi Otto would probably send
me a kit for that one off which

587
00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:54,480
to them and I understand doesn't
make sense to ship a kit of that

588
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,250
price range for a one off. So I
just told them whenever we have

589
00:34:59,250 --> 00:34:59,970
a one off

590
00:35:00,570 --> 00:35:03,330
Because we still put our logo
head on it and it has Krabi Otto

591
00:35:03,330 --> 00:35:06,270
on there or just kept btw kid
because I'm with them. I'm with

592
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:08,310
DW for penulisan hardware. Nice.

593
00:35:09,330 --> 00:35:11,670
Perfect and you get to hang out
with Chad Cramo right and

594
00:35:11,730 --> 00:35:15,390
kibbutz in Nashville sometimes.
Yeah, if he's in Nashville. I

595
00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:19,320
think he's in town now from my
buddy told me, but uh, I don't

596
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,810
try to like hit him up too much.
I know he's busy. He's still

597
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,680
constantly doing sessions. Yes,
man. He's in LA. He's in New

598
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,230
Orleans. He's all over the
place, which is awesome. I'm so

599
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:34,020
glad that he's still constantly
going, you know? Yeah. You know,

600
00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:36,120
I want to, I'd love to one day.

601
00:35:37,380 --> 00:35:40,800
If he and or the producer would
let me just watch him do a

602
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,970
session one day, just be a fly
on the wall. Because of how many

603
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:48,840
things he's done. I'll just ask.
Just ask him and I'm sure

604
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:49,650
sharing you stop.

605
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,930
Yeah, the cool thing about being
a part of Krabi, Otto has their

606
00:35:54,930 --> 00:35:56,040
factories in town.

607
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:59,760
And my buddy who works there
just sends me he sent me a

608
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,650
picture today. He's like, hey,
what do you think about this?

609
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,650
It's right over nolensville road
there. It's right near forks.

610
00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:05,250
Yeah.

611
00:36:06,540 --> 00:36:10,080
And it's cool to be able to like
say I'm a part of this. Yeah,

612
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,290
they're a smaller company. But
they're very boutique. And one

613
00:36:13,290 --> 00:36:15,480
of my buddies was like, why
would you sign with them? Like,

614
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,140
because they make amazing drums.
Then it Yeah, I was just it was

615
00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:22,890
more finishes. You could do
whatever you want. You can get

616
00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:26,700
them painted? Oh, yeah. You can
get rats. Anything you dream of

617
00:36:26,730 --> 00:36:29,730
they can do? Well, it's good.
It's it's, you know, a cool

618
00:36:29,730 --> 00:36:33,060
thing. Yeah, you know, everyone
thinks oh, it's just wood whip.

619
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:37,200
Okay, it is solid shell wood.
But

620
00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:43,410
but you can get like, if you
want to do like a walnut maple

621
00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:49,020
walnut, as a hybrid, or you can
do say you wanted a, my buddy

622
00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:52,470
just sent me this maple kit. But
the top layer was black and the

623
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:56,010
bottom layer was black. So it
was like black paint, maple,

624
00:36:56,700 --> 00:37:00,660
black paint. And it's beautiful
with the two with maple inlay on

625
00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:04,440
the rent on the hoops of the
kick drum. And then on the kick

626
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,240
drum itself. Were two more maple
inlays. And it just looks

627
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:13,230
fantastic. Nuts. Well,
congratulations, man. It's like

628
00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:15,930
the BMW drums. Everybody's
making great stuff. I feel like

629
00:37:15,930 --> 00:37:20,280
you know, the like, you know, dw
is the Audi of drums, and

630
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,550
everybody's just making great
stuff. You know, I mean, it's,

631
00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:27,690
you can't really go wrong, you
really can't go wrong. So we

632
00:37:27,690 --> 00:37:31,830
were talking about your open
handed thing. And developing

633
00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:34,230
that. And we're talking about
your education component, you

634
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:37,140
being an educator. So eventually
everybody will make their way

635
00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:39,930
over to Dromio. And I'm super
happy and proud of you in

636
00:37:39,930 --> 00:37:42,840
January, you went up to dremio.
They fly up there, they take

637
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,780
care of you, they feed you they
put you up, it's they're great.

638
00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:48,750
And it's a world class facility.
You did some teaching, and then

639
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:52,560
you're getting some viral views
on this video of you hearing

640
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:58,140
Gojira for the first time. And
it did a great job. They

641
00:37:58,170 --> 00:38:01,110
wouldn't they they play it for
you. You get to chart it out,

642
00:38:01,110 --> 00:38:03,780
and then you get to play. Right,
right. Yeah, it was cool. I

643
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:09,870
mean, I think with them doing
that segment is such a unique

644
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:14,520
and cool way to show drummers
that the humanity of drummers

645
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,480
Yeah, yes, the the humanity and
kind of even somewhat humility

646
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,690
of the fact that like, I never
heard that band before. When I

647
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:27,480
heard that song, a there were no
drums in it. It was drumless.

648
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,990
And it's essentially make up
your own part. And I thought,

649
00:38:30,990 --> 00:38:34,440
well, if I was in the studio
recording this and I only had

650
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,460
two or three takes that Vallely
gave me, well, I could have done

651
00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:40,050
a third, but they were like,
Hey, you're good after two? And

652
00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:40,380
I'm like,

653
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:41,970
Okay.

654
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,080
But you kind of think, how would
I play this? How would I

655
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,690
approach this? And it's like, I
always in my head, think simple

656
00:38:48,690 --> 00:38:50,520
is better. And

657
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:55,920
the chart I made was as fast as
I can make it. And then I was

658
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,780
like, You know what, I'm not
going to look at my chart. I'm

659
00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:02,040
gonna listen to the song and see
what comes out. And

660
00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:06,660
I like to hear in there. Look at
the comments of what people are

661
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:09,570
writing, for the most part,
people like it, you know, and I

662
00:39:09,570 --> 00:39:11,310
think for the people who don't
like it, they're probably

663
00:39:11,310 --> 00:39:14,160
sitting in their mom's basement
saying, Well, how'd this guy do

664
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,180
it? Exactly. Jake. Exactly,
buddy. You know, you can't let

665
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:21,300
that stuff get to you. But oh,
it was kind of like the, like

666
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:24,810
the band is? Is the band goes
Jira, or is it another band and

667
00:39:24,810 --> 00:39:29,280
it's band is called Gojira.
Okay, and I forget the name of

668
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,080
the song. But, I mean, I think
that means Godzilla. I love

669
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,810
Godzilla when catching up on all
the movies. And I think it's

670
00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:40,260
Gojira which is just Godzilla. I
believe I'm gonna probably get

671
00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:41,790
all sorts of hate mail. You're
wrong.

672
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,210
But no, it's like, you know,
there's like, it was like really

673
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:45,570
quick.

674
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,650
Like, like, really? So you could
you could get on the X hat. You

675
00:39:49,650 --> 00:39:51,840
could try to Thomas Lang all
that stuff up. But I like

676
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,620
usually you're just like

677
00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:58,020
let everybody do the heavy
lifting and lay down the boom

678
00:39:58,020 --> 00:39:59,970
shmack And it was great.

679
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,630
Eat well, and in the beginning,
you know when I heard that done

680
00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:04,020
and

681
00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:11,460
not done that, I thought, slice
and dice, but I knew that ride

682
00:40:11,460 --> 00:40:15,300
pattern, I did a doughnut on it.
I took that from that corn song.

683
00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:21,120
And I was like, Oh, well, Ray
does this here on this song.

684
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:24,780
This could kind of work here and
then go into the groove. All

685
00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:27,930
right, Ray, great. My God, He
reminds me of like, like

686
00:40:27,930 --> 00:40:30,930
Bissonnette because he goes to
these like drumming melodies

687
00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:34,050
that he has, like, gotta, gotta,
gotta, gotta gotta gotta gotta

688
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,240
gotta gotta get those kinds of
things where there's like these

689
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:40,560
little melodies that will like
rear their ugly head all the

690
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,190
time. And they always work and
it's part of his sound. He's so

691
00:40:44,190 --> 00:40:46,200
good. So these open ended as
well.

692
00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:52,200
Yes, he's open handed. He his
his right on his right. Right

693
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,400
side. His Yes. Hi, hat. I think
he's got two hats. And he got

694
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,210
his signature that China just
straight up middle. Yeah. Which

695
00:41:00,210 --> 00:41:05,100
I think is such a cool look.
Totally. But um, yeah, I mean, I

696
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,020
kind of heard when I heard that
song. I was like, Well,

697
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,340
I don't have a double kick pedal
setup. I didn't even ask for one

698
00:41:11,370 --> 00:41:13,710
because I don't want to really
that Well, anyway, and if I

699
00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:16,560
faked it, God knows how it would
sound. But

700
00:41:17,970 --> 00:41:20,730
that was a good time. Yeah. Um,
I appreciate them having me. And

701
00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:23,970
you know, I had Brandon out to
our show in Vancouver. Before

702
00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:27,720
then, and he was a hey, what are
you doing? What do you have off?

703
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:29,670
We want to have you up here. And
I was like, sweet.

704
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:35,280
Got a great job, right? Oh,
yeah. And he's such a nice guy.

705
00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:39,360
He's so nice. So approachable.
So good. He knows how to read

706
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,820
really transcribing. He's always
getting to copy those cool

707
00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:44,940
styles goes to Chad Smith house,
and then he's doing the

708
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:46,800
interviews. He's a great host.

709
00:41:48,270 --> 00:41:51,120
And he can I mean, he could play
with butter

710
00:41:53,070 --> 00:41:56,190
to be able to do all these
different things and like, Okay,

711
00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:59,310
how long did you practice like
this adventure seven full thing

712
00:41:59,310 --> 00:41:59,670
for?

713
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,910
Because it's not a you could
just play that in a day. I mean,

714
00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:05,370
I guess you can't really sat
there and practice it. But it's

715
00:42:05,370 --> 00:42:08,490
like, you have other stuff going
on throughout your data, I'd

716
00:42:08,490 --> 00:42:11,790
assume. And since play that
stuff is not easy. I remember

717
00:42:11,790 --> 00:42:16,140
trying to play that when that
stuff first came out. I must

718
00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:18,810
have been in like high school
when I was like, Yeah, my double

719
00:42:18,810 --> 00:42:24,090
pedal stuff. Not that great.
Yeah, I had my on your kick. I

720
00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:26,940
always I always have it up
there. It's like, ever use it.

721
00:42:28,170 --> 00:42:30,420
At the ends of songs, you know,
floors and stuff. You know what

722
00:42:30,420 --> 00:42:33,330
I mean? I think that
inappropriate unmusical double

723
00:42:33,330 --> 00:42:38,760
bass use is is the epitome of
amateur. Right. So but it's good

724
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,490
to have up there because you
know, I'm from the

725
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,210
rock Ray Bissonnette Carmine
School of the falling rocks to

726
00:42:48,210 --> 00:42:51,750
in the hands to feed for in the
hands to in the feed. I can I

727
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:54,180
can knock that stuff out. Matter
of fact, they the band gave me a

728
00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:57,720
little drum solo this year
because I guess ElDeen was

729
00:42:57,750 --> 00:43:01,740
reminiscing, looking back at our
wide open and more DVD that was

730
00:43:01,740 --> 00:43:05,490
shot in 2005. And I had a seven
minute extended drum solo where

731
00:43:05,490 --> 00:43:08,970
everybody left the stage. It was
very artistic. And he goes, we

732
00:43:08,970 --> 00:43:12,420
don't want it seven minutes he
goes, but how about 45 seconds

733
00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:18,810
of the most popular knucklehead
go to arena rock drum tropes. So

734
00:43:18,810 --> 00:43:22,560
I said, Okay, so I did, I
composed the 45 second soul that

735
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,220
starts out four bars of like a
Foo Fighters tip of the hat to

736
00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:28,530
the Foo Fighters, and then it
goes into a four on the floor,

737
00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:30,840
and then it goes into kind of
like a bissonnet II thing. And

738
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,810
then he ends with a Carmine type
of thing and then with some some

739
00:43:33,810 --> 00:43:37,380
Redman, you know, over the top
shome and stuff, 45 seconds, in

740
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,230
and out. That's awesome. And
that's how we're starting to

741
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:42,600
show this year and hopefully
we'll make it to the end of the

742
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,600
year. Sometimes we'll we'll come
up with things and we'll do for

743
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,840
about 10 shows and then like app
let's change it up for the rest

744
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,730
of the year. You know what I
mean? I remember when we were

745
00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:53,790
out you guys like the first
weekend? I think it was your

746
00:43:53,790 --> 00:43:56,730
encore you dies at a Bon Jovi
tune and the next night you guys

747
00:43:56,730 --> 00:43:59,610
cut in I was like, That was so
cool. Why did we you know, we

748
00:43:59,610 --> 00:44:02,370
weren't like the audience was
getting it like we're thinking

749
00:44:02,370 --> 00:44:05,790
like, maybe we're old. I don't
think they're reacting to dead

750
00:44:05,790 --> 00:44:08,340
or alive. You know what I mean?
We're like, These people don't

751
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:11,820
know, because there are the 30s
the 40s and 50 Somethings that

752
00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:15,780
know dead or alive for sure.
There's the 30 Somethings that

753
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:20,970
may have done a deep dive or
just like classic rock, but a

754
00:44:20,970 --> 00:44:23,640
lot of kids in their 20s Ain't
gonna know Dead or Alive from

755
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:25,680
which is crazy to me because
that song is

756
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,430
a song that I feel like
everybody should know. Everybody

757
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:34,320
should know Bon Jovi, even if
it's that one, or, you know, one

758
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,110
of the one of these other big
hits Did you watch the Docu

759
00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:40,410
series on who? I'm not watching
you running to get around to

760
00:44:40,410 --> 00:44:43,110
doing that? Check it out
because, well, I'm a Chico guy.

761
00:44:43,830 --> 00:44:49,260
I always liked his, his muscular
playing is his sassiness he just

762
00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:52,590
was a great fit for that band.
But it was so funny. He really

763
00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:56,460
has an oral fixation because in
every shot of him he's smoking a

764
00:44:56,460 --> 00:44:59,970
cigar or a cigarette. Oh
goodness. Yeah.

765
00:45:00,539 --> 00:45:05,339
So, our photographer David
Bergman was Jovi's photographer

766
00:45:05,339 --> 00:45:09,479
for 10 years before he got on
with us. Wow. Well, he's been

767
00:45:09,509 --> 00:45:12,239
everywhere with them. And he's
got some great stories and small

768
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:17,549
world. Bon Jovi, and Luke had
the same birthday. Wow. What did

769
00:45:17,549 --> 00:45:20,969
you see? Well, I don't know
who's doing your videos, but the

770
00:45:20,969 --> 00:45:23,099
videos you load up to Instagram
and it almost looks like it's

771
00:45:23,099 --> 00:45:25,019
like a robotic camera or
something. Because it's got

772
00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:31,170
what's that? I, the videos I
post? Yeah. That's where the

773
00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:34,440
GoPro was generous enough to
send me their max camera, which

774
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,040
is their 361? Well, yeah, you
put in the 360 mode, and then

775
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,520
you edit the 360 like making it
move and stuff after the fact.

776
00:45:41,820 --> 00:45:45,360
Wow. But they were generous.
They liked what I was doing with

777
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:49,260
when I had my hero nine out and
they said, Hey, we want to we

778
00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:52,020
love what you're doing want to
send you a max, what's your

779
00:45:52,020 --> 00:45:54,570
address, so they sent me one,
which was

780
00:45:55,650 --> 00:45:59,520
kudos to them. Thank you. And I
tried to go pro.

781
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,900
At least one of the two shows a
weekend just to have content cuz

782
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:06,750
I think it's cool for people to
be able to see our point of

783
00:46:06,750 --> 00:46:13,200
view. And I take a different
angle. So like, our, one of our

784
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,750
actual video guys, who tells
like, the handheld people, Hey,

785
00:46:18,750 --> 00:46:22,050
cut here, cut here, all that
stuff. They have these arms

786
00:46:22,050 --> 00:46:26,580
called Magic Arm. So we put one
up on my ride cymbal stand to

787
00:46:26,580 --> 00:46:30,000
have it out in front of my kick
drum. So my GoPros facing me. So

788
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,540
I just edited a video yesterday
that I'm going to post today.

789
00:46:33,930 --> 00:46:38,700
And then I have another angle
from Saturday show. That is I

790
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:41,040
just have like this like
gooseneck lamp that's on the

791
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,090
GoPro and have it on my right
crash and facing you this way.

792
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,330
And you could pull like, on when
you edit the videos, you could

793
00:46:48,330 --> 00:46:51,390
pull it out, you could spin it
if you want, which I wouldn't do

794
00:46:51,390 --> 00:46:55,110
because I think people get sick.
But um, but it's really cool

795
00:46:55,110 --> 00:46:58,560
what they came up with. Is that
is that a like a proprietary do

796
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,930
you when you edit? Is it the
GoPro software? Or are you

797
00:47:00,930 --> 00:47:03,720
jumping into the Final Cut or
something like that I use the

798
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,960
GoPro software I just do it from
my phone there's they have their

799
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,190
app called the Quick app. Nice.
You just go in there

800
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,310
you have to sync it to like your
GoPros Wi Fi I guess in a sense

801
00:47:17,370 --> 00:47:22,440
interesting or and or Bluetooth.
And then once it links to that

802
00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:26,340
you go to View media all the
media of whichever show or view

803
00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:30,390
captured pops up. You click on
that and then you just scrub to

804
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:31,590
whatever song you want to

805
00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:37,470
cut to and then you can then cut
however long you want. So I can

806
00:47:37,470 --> 00:47:40,980
do a video and put on my YouTube
page of

807
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,310
trying to think of a song I
don't have on there yet.

808
00:47:45,810 --> 00:47:48,960
What's your YouTube page buddy?
I think this is Jake summers.

809
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,470
And you load up all this
content? How many videos you got

810
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:57,300
hundreds? No, I think I only
have like 10 or 11 videos. I

811
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:59,670
haven't done it this year at
all. I need to get back to doing

812
00:47:59,670 --> 00:48:01,380
that. You know what I haven't
done it too. And it's great when

813
00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:04,080
you get the DM from people that
are like what's going on haven't

814
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,880
seen the footage and while
you're going to you're going to

815
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,260
record this year you get to do a
tour breakdown. You know video

816
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:14,370
they love those tour break the
kit break. Well I loved it last

817
00:48:14,370 --> 00:48:18,570
year and mine hasn't changed.
God forbid if you don't do it

818
00:48:18,570 --> 00:48:21,300
every year. I'm like guys, it's
the same setup. The only thing

819
00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:25,410
that's different is the finish
of the drums. Yeah, I'm like

820
00:48:25,410 --> 00:48:28,320
mine and the only difference so
I've been playing these

821
00:48:28,350 --> 00:48:31,830
accouting custom metal snares on
the road. Yeah, I met that cat.

822
00:48:31,830 --> 00:48:36,660
He's great Cooper. Great guy. So
my sides there is his 14 by six

823
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:41,520
and a half alloy Inconel snare
with a big fat snare drum on it

824
00:48:41,850 --> 00:48:44,760
with the snares off, which I use
for the song one number away.

825
00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:53,640
And then my backup snare is his
T six aluminum. And we've gotten

826
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,140
to become really close friends
and

827
00:48:56,190 --> 00:49:00,510
we were talking August ish of
last year and he was I told he's

828
00:49:00,510 --> 00:49:03,180
like, hey are using the same kit
for next year? I said yes.

829
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,460
Definitely not changing anytime
soon.

830
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:08,940
And he said how's the aluminum
work? And I said I love it.

831
00:49:08,970 --> 00:49:12,330
Everyone does. He said I want to
make you in the same thing but

832
00:49:12,330 --> 00:49:15,720
custom. So he made me like a
piano black aluminum one with

833
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:20,730
his 24 karat badge all the
snares that he's been generous

834
00:49:20,730 --> 00:49:26,340
enough to give me have so now my
main snares is the black T six

835
00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:31,050
one. And then my backup is the
other T six, which just looks

836
00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:33,420
like a I guess a metal snare.
But

837
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:37,320
they're awesome. It's really,
really cool. And then he sent me

838
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,250
a 14 by eight stainless steel
which is at my house that was

839
00:49:41,370 --> 00:49:42,420
made with Brandon net.

840
00:49:43,710 --> 00:49:47,820
That's a big boy, but I love it.
Yeah. Yeah, so I'm playing their

841
00:49:47,820 --> 00:49:50,070
snares. And you know, I tried
out.

842
00:49:51,870 --> 00:49:53,040
I guess it was last year.

843
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:57,510
Probably Otto was generous
enough to also make me a 14 by

844
00:49:57,510 --> 00:50:00,000
five and a half walnut snare
matching.

845
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,720
My kid with hybrid edges and and
a 14 by six and a half maple 45

846
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:07,050
degree like Johnny would have
made. And I tried them out, and

847
00:50:07,050 --> 00:50:10,620
they are fantastic. But I just
think on the record, Jerry Rowe

848
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,550
has been playing metal snares so
I kind of got to do that. And he

849
00:50:14,550 --> 00:50:17,880
likes I think Jerry is known for
he's so tall.

850
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,270
He plays an eight inch eight
inch drum like when I think

851
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:23,100
about eight inch drums, I'm
always thinking, well, it's

852
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:25,590
probably going to be an eight
inch from that. So that's tuned

853
00:50:25,590 --> 00:50:29,700
like mud, but eight inch drums
can have a lot of beef and

854
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:33,600
attack as well. You know, he's
an incredible player, he

855
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,390
actually, couple months ago, I
guess they were tracking me sent

856
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:39,540
me a photo and he said, he said
Sorry, not sorry, guess you're

857
00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:42,180
gonna have to expand your kidney
to three up and one down. And

858
00:50:42,180 --> 00:50:45,810
I'm like, I love you. But damn,
and I hate you at the same time

859
00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:49,050
right now. Well, yeah. And and
you don't have the balls. You

860
00:50:49,050 --> 00:50:51,000
could you could just take the
macro rhythm and like break it

861
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,080
up between what you got right
now, which is fine. But yeah, I

862
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,850
figured with him playing on a
lot of the records, you guys

863
00:50:56,850 --> 00:51:01,470
would be fast friends, like, you
know, like, Dude, I mean, I

864
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:04,710
remember there was one song
where there's not a lot of

865
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:07,980
little bass on Luke stuff. But
there's one song that we haven't

866
00:51:07,980 --> 00:51:12,030
played in a while. And it's a
super cool, double bass part.

867
00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:12,900
It's very quick.

868
00:51:13,950 --> 00:51:17,100
And I text him I said, Hey,
like, how did you play this

869
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:20,250
part? You know, what is your
what was your footpad? And he

870
00:51:20,250 --> 00:51:24,030
goes, he was just adrenaline.
Adrenaline on Mike was just

871
00:51:24,030 --> 00:51:26,610
adrenaline Come on, like you
know that you had a specific

872
00:51:26,610 --> 00:51:29,790
foot pattern or something like
that. But he's a metal guy. You

873
00:51:29,790 --> 00:51:33,030
know, he could play everything.
But he loves metal music and

874
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:35,970
rock music. Yeah. And so does
miles and when and when I had to

875
00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:40,110
do I had to do the taller fire
gig seven for Mark. He had some

876
00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:43,530
really adventurous fills. I was
like man getting away with

877
00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:49,020
murder miles murder. When you
subbed for more? Did you have

878
00:51:49,020 --> 00:51:51,150
charts? Or do you just try? Oh,
heck yeah, you know me, I'm the

879
00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:54,630
charkha I'd rather play with
perfection and not worry about,

880
00:51:55,380 --> 00:51:57,990
you know how people go, what are
the charts, but now iPads can

881
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:59,910
make everything so
inconspicuous. But I still

882
00:51:59,910 --> 00:52:02,940
haven't made the jump to be in
an iPad guide. Now right after I

883
00:52:02,940 --> 00:52:05,160
talk to you, I'm going to talk
to our friend Brian Zack who's a

884
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,760
great, you know, all round
player. And he's like, swears by

885
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,520
the iPad. So I'll probably like,
you know, get him to help me

886
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,950
with the four score and
incorporating the metronome.

887
00:52:14,610 --> 00:52:18,390
When it comes to I'm just still
old school. I like dead paper.

888
00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:21,300
I'd like dead trees. I want
paper. I want to light on the

889
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:23,670
paper. I want to be able to turn
the page. And then when it comes

890
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:27,750
to metronomes I don't want it in
the iPad. I want a rhythm watch

891
00:52:27,780 --> 00:52:32,730
or some sort of standalone
device whose sole purpose is to

892
00:52:32,730 --> 00:52:37,860
create a collect it doesn't
receive phone calls or texts.

893
00:52:38,250 --> 00:52:42,750
It's not doing double duty with
a chart. It's just a collect.

894
00:52:43,170 --> 00:52:47,520
You guys use Ableton No, we're a
Pro Tools. Man. Johnny's got to

895
00:52:47,580 --> 00:52:51,150
Pro Tools rigs running in tandem
back there. Oh, wow. Okay, so we

896
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:53,670
use Ableton, yeah, most most
people do because it's so

897
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:57,090
stable. We just use click, we
don't use any tracks we never

898
00:52:57,090 --> 00:53:01,080
have. And we have two that are
simultaneous in case one

899
00:53:02,550 --> 00:53:05,250
goes down. Yeah, actually. And
what is your click sound? What

900
00:53:05,250 --> 00:53:08,190
is your click sound of
preference shaker. So like on

901
00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:13,260
faster tempo is just quarter
note. And then on everything

902
00:53:13,260 --> 00:53:16,590
else, it's slower. It's just
eighth note shakers. We tried

903
00:53:16,590 --> 00:53:21,900
years ago doing like the eighth
note or quarter note shaker and

904
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:25,170
then doing like a cowbell and a
woodblock on tune for but it's

905
00:53:25,170 --> 00:53:29,040
just like to kind of bizarre. I
know, shaker is beautiful back

906
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,830
in the early days. I don't know
we talked about this, when we

907
00:53:31,830 --> 00:53:37,080
are using and Alesis sr 18. For
click, you can split the sounds

908
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,710
you could pan things. So I would
send the the band a shaker just

909
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:44,310
a shaker. And then mine had had
hand stuff like tambourines on

910
00:53:44,310 --> 00:53:47,190
two and four. And I had a low
tuned conga.

911
00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:51,030
So it was just more robust. That
was kind of fun to play with.

912
00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:55,560
But now it's just shaker baby,
just a dummy shaker. We use the

913
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,490
Oasis sr 18. I saw one in a
photo one time like off to your

914
00:53:59,490 --> 00:53:59,820
left.

915
00:54:00,990 --> 00:54:03,840
So we still say 20

916
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,080
Let's say 19 now

917
00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:12,840
and well that's where the shaker
came from. Because my band loves

918
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,040
the shaker. They would never
ever entertain the idea of using

919
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,040
another sound source. It would
be so weird because it gets in

920
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,710
the way a shaker. If you're
having a great day. It just

921
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:26,760
melts into the fabric of the
music like like like you're

922
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,240
playing with

923
00:54:28,350 --> 00:54:31,590
a man like a Ron Powell or like
one of these, you know, heavy

924
00:54:31,590 --> 00:54:35,520
percussionist cats, man. It's
crazy. Well, what else is what

925
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,620
else is happening that you want
to talk about or promote your

926
00:54:37,620 --> 00:54:42,030
teaching? privately? You are got
your YouTube channel. You know,

927
00:54:42,030 --> 00:54:45,030
you got your videos on your
Instagram. You're constantly

928
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:48,600
being nominated for country
drummer of the year. You're on

929
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,930
these huge world tours. Dude,
I'm so proud of you, man.

930
00:54:51,930 --> 00:54:53,670
Congratulations. Yeah.

931
00:54:55,830 --> 00:54:58,890
Really? No, you know, so we
covered a lot. I mean, it's

932
00:54:58,890 --> 00:54:59,760
definitely been

933
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,060
For a while, fantastic ride that
you can only obviously dream of

934
00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:09,060
and pinch yourself but it's
like, I don't think any of us,

935
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:12,510
especially myself and our
bandleader, and Luke, because

936
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:17,190
our bandleader has been there.
He joined fully a couple of

937
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:20,310
months after I did think the
three of us

938
00:55:21,870 --> 00:55:25,020
ever really thought like, we're
gonna be headlining stadiums one

939
00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:29,760
day, or we're gonna be doing SNL
or the Grammys, and it's like,

940
00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:32,100
you

941
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,510
were there, we've been doing it,
which is amazing. It'd be doing

942
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:38,970
stadium stadiums two years in a
row.

943
00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:42,990
I think it's always just a pinch
yourself moment, like the last

944
00:55:42,990 --> 00:55:47,370
small venue we played was in
Paris last year. And I mean,

945
00:55:47,370 --> 00:55:49,140
aside from like, the charity
event, but like,

946
00:55:50,370 --> 00:55:54,780
our own show, was Paris was like
a 1200 person club and was so

947
00:55:54,780 --> 00:55:58,110
much fun, feeling all the air
from all the instruments and

948
00:55:58,110 --> 00:56:02,220
being so close to everybody.
And, like, you know, Luke's on

949
00:56:02,220 --> 00:56:06,600
the thrust and some other guys
on are walking down the catwalk

950
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,110
and the thrust is huge. And I'm
just back here, like, rocking

951
00:56:10,110 --> 00:56:12,750
out and like open our keys
players here and like our bass

952
00:56:12,750 --> 00:56:15,450
player, sometimes right next to
me, and just having a great

953
00:56:15,450 --> 00:56:19,350
time. And it's wild to think
about but you know, it's, it's

954
00:56:20,790 --> 00:56:21,810
new, really.

955
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:27,210
unbelievable to see that
momentum from 20.

956
00:56:28,380 --> 00:56:33,300
I would say 2015 Realistically,
to now. Yeah. And, you know, to

957
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:37,080
be able to tour with all your
friends is super cool, too.

958
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,320
We've got like, Jordan Davis out
on Saturdays, Mitchell Tenpenny.

959
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,410
Drew Parker, Colby Acuff, and,
you know, I know all the

960
00:56:43,410 --> 00:56:46,800
drummers in those groups like
Jimmy's out with us Kyle's out

961
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,510
Jimmy Alcock. Yeah. And Kyle
Wilkerson. Yep. Jimmy and I were

962
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:55,590
just smacking on your pro logics
pad on Saturday before. Thank

963
00:56:55,590 --> 00:56:58,530
you guys. You guys. Bottom.
Yeah. And

964
00:57:00,030 --> 00:57:03,270
and, you know, I was like, hey,
like Jason Edwards from Pro

965
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:04,590
logics, call me right now.

966
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,450
It's a very small world, but a
very small world. I'm really

967
00:57:09,450 --> 00:57:12,180
proud of Jimmy to we were on
tour last year together, and he

968
00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:17,040
just sounds great. He loves an
athlete back there. He's just

969
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:21,330
doing the thing, man. It's
great. I think he told me that.

970
00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:25,410
A lot of those symbols that he's
using currently are yours,

971
00:57:25,410 --> 00:57:28,860
right? Yeah. I lent it to him
last year. And then I lent him

972
00:57:28,890 --> 00:57:31,380
Maru. One day, he was in town.
And he was like, Hey, do you

973
00:57:31,380 --> 00:57:34,170
want to go to forks? And I was
like, Yeah, let's go. And he was

974
00:57:34,170 --> 00:57:36,270
looking at some ride cymbals and
he was like, What are you like?

975
00:57:36,270 --> 00:57:40,050
And I was like, Well, I've been
playing the 22 inch HHF complex

976
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,490
ride. And I had, I think last
year, switch to the 23. And then

977
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,410
I have another 22 as a backup.
And as I do just come to my

978
00:57:49,410 --> 00:57:52,710
house, I probably have more hate
saved than forks has in my

979
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:57,090
house. And I let him he's been
borrowing that 22 inch dried

980
00:57:57,090 --> 00:58:00,210
since he was on tour with you
guys. And this year. We're on

981
00:58:00,210 --> 00:58:03,360
tour together and I was like,
Hey, man, like, you still

982
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,490
digging. There? He goes, Yeah,
love. I said, Hey, I want you to

983
00:58:05,490 --> 00:58:10,170
have it. Ah, I said, Yeah, dude.
I said, Please, I want you to

984
00:58:10,170 --> 00:58:11,190
keep it. I have a backup.

985
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,760
So sweet. I forget what I lent
him because, because

986
00:58:16,260 --> 00:58:19,950
at this point, Ma, it's the way
we play. It's probably all

987
00:58:19,950 --> 00:58:22,800
toast. You know what I mean?
Because I did, I did give him a

988
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,160
ride. And I don't think he liked
it because he traded, he started

989
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,610
using the one that you lent him.
Jimmy, if you're listening to

990
00:58:29,610 --> 00:58:33,360
this, I still need to get that
waxed denim jacket from your

991
00:58:33,540 --> 00:58:39,210
clothing designer for an LA. So
hopefully I'll get a discount

992
00:58:39,210 --> 00:58:42,810
there. But but, you know, man,
it's just incredible. And it

993
00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:45,840
happens so fast. Like I feel
like the way the world works now

994
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:51,540
with social media and new media.
What usually takes a decade

995
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:56,670
takes five years now. I mean,
like that is a meteoric rise to

996
00:58:56,670 --> 00:59:02,370
success look like through Tik
Tok. I'm buddies with the guys

997
00:59:02,370 --> 00:59:06,990
from Bella Zimmerman's band. His
first full band show was at one

998
00:59:06,990 --> 00:59:12,540
of the whiskey jams that we had
on our tour in 2022. And now

999
00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:15,300
he's direct support from Morgan
Wallen. It's insane. What's the

1000
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:17,880
drummer Mike? I met him in
Austin, Mike Miller, Max Miller,

1001
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:21,750
Max Miller. I know Mike Miller
who's a drum tech with almost

1002
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:24,990
Yeah, Alice Cooper right. Yeah.
Sorry, Mike.

1003
00:59:26,490 --> 00:59:31,200
One night at the jam session in
Hollywood that I always go to

1004
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,340
poor Mike I was

1005
00:59:33,570 --> 00:59:36,930
I know we would do it at the
lucky strike on the corner of

1006
00:59:36,930 --> 00:59:40,290
how Hollywood and Highland it's
a bowling alley and they would

1007
00:59:40,290 --> 00:59:47,040
have rock jams there. And I
totally it Mike in the I was a

1008
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,440
drumstick that and I mean, I
could have totally blinded the

1009
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,070
guy. And I'm like, I'm so sorry.
He's like, Oh, it's alright. So

1010
00:59:53,070 --> 00:59:55,800
sorry, Mike. Still to this day.
very embarrassing, but but he's

1011
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,240
fine. He's totally fine.

1012
00:59:58,500 --> 00:59:59,970
Yeah, I will say one of the
coolest

1013
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,510
things

1014
01:00:01,770 --> 01:00:05,610
since the beginning of this
whole ride and stuff, you know,

1015
01:00:05,610 --> 01:00:08,460
it's like, you look up the
people on stuff and I've told

1016
01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:09,510
you this 1000 times.

1017
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:13,110
But even before me moving to
Nashville, I would get Modern

1018
01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:15,600
Drummer, and all stuff. I
remember seeing you on the

1019
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,680
cover. And then, you know, you
just had this cool persona and

1020
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,730
look, and you know, how your kit
was set up was super cool. And

1021
01:00:23,730 --> 01:00:26,730
you know, for you it's really
comfortable and which, you know,

1022
01:00:26,730 --> 01:00:29,940
and it looks awesome. And then
it was like, Oh, I forgot. I

1023
01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:34,650
remember it was like 20 things
like end of 2017. Yeah, the next

1024
01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:36,810
year, we're going on tour the
Aldi and I was like, Oh, wow,

1025
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,840
this is really cool. I get to
hang with rich, like, as much as

1026
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,500
I obviously can, because you're
busy too. And that was a cool

1027
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:45,510
moment for me because I got to
watch you

1028
01:00:46,590 --> 01:00:48,810
every show from side stage. And
there was a couple of times

1029
01:00:48,810 --> 01:00:51,360
where I watched from out front,
I'd go back and forth to hear

1030
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,800
how it sounded. Yeah. And I'll
remember obviously, watching the

1031
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,230
size change, and you'd see me
watching you then you do the

1032
01:00:58,230 --> 01:01:02,970
open hand thing. I was like,
this guy, just doing everything,

1033
01:01:03,330 --> 01:01:03,540
and

1034
01:01:05,310 --> 01:01:07,590
beating the crap out of the
drum. I mean, beating the crap

1035
01:01:07,590 --> 01:01:11,550
out of the drums in, obviously
the proper way. And they sounded

1036
01:01:11,550 --> 01:01:15,210
amazing. And I remember that one
time I sat at your kit. And I

1037
01:01:15,210 --> 01:01:18,630
was like, man, years ago when I
saw this on Modern Drummer looks

1038
01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:22,890
so like, cool, and it still does
and comfortable. And I sat on a

1039
01:01:22,890 --> 01:01:28,230
go. I can't hit a snare drum at
all. And so I was like, Why are

1040
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:29,760
you sitting on the floor man.

1041
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,480
But it's hard to keep. It's hard
to teach old dogs new trips, but

1042
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,790
yeah, we would. We had a great
time. And there was one night I

1043
01:01:35,790 --> 01:01:37,800
think we were in Raleigh, we got
rained out. Remember, it was

1044
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,770
just Raining Frogs and we all
sat out and just smoked cigars

1045
01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:43,890
in the rain. It was a mess. I
remember I set my kid up for the

1046
01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:46,140
show. And then it was like, hey,
show's canceled. I had to tear

1047
01:01:46,140 --> 01:01:50,340
it down and pack it back up. And
then I don't remember when they

1048
01:01:50,340 --> 01:01:52,680
rescheduled that show. But now I
was like Okay, we're back here

1049
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,920
and setting it up again.
Hopefully no rain. Yeah, way the

1050
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,110
show and all that stuff. But it
was cool. Might be on the

1051
01:01:58,110 --> 01:02:00,840
hangout with all you guys and
kind of hanging out with you

1052
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,000
guys till you guys like I said
great camaraderie. I mean, it's

1053
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:08,820
really fun, man. Really, really,
really fun. And hey, I was gonna

1054
01:02:08,820 --> 01:02:11,250
ask you Who is your drum tech
now who's your drum tech. His

1055
01:02:11,250 --> 01:02:16,140
name is Joe Miller. He currently
out with RJ hail from hailstorm.

1056
01:02:16,260 --> 01:02:19,710
Oh, yeah. He's done. He's worked
with them. He's worked with

1057
01:02:22,350 --> 01:02:25,890
Blackstone, cherry. He's worked
with hunters.

1058
01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:32,370
to Kentucky guy. Yeah, he's,
yeah. So and he's a great guy

1059
01:02:32,370 --> 01:02:36,240
super, super hands on, which is
awesome. And he's always like,

1060
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,440
Hey, you good, like everything
good. And very,

1061
01:02:42,690 --> 01:02:45,930
very onpoint with everything of
like, Hey, have the drums feel,

1062
01:02:46,170 --> 01:02:49,320
you know, and I remember the
first time we met. He's, uh,

1063
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:54,450
hey, my job for you is to make
the drums. Sound and obviously

1064
01:02:54,450 --> 01:02:58,350
look good. Polishing the
hardware and the lugs. He goes

1065
01:02:58,350 --> 01:03:01,140
if they don't play well, that's
all I knew. And I said, You're

1066
01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:05,070
right. You're totally playing.
Well, that's on you. Well, that

1067
01:03:05,070 --> 01:03:08,070
makes sense. Well, it like
obviously he makes him look and

1068
01:03:08,070 --> 01:03:10,470
sound good. But if you know
playing wise, he's not the one

1069
01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:14,190
playing Am. I Am. Yeah, you
know, but yeah, he's awesome.

1070
01:03:14,190 --> 01:03:18,690
And you know, even though it's
our first year together,

1071
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,160
we've gotten really close
quickly. And he's just a good

1072
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,670
guy. And he fits in really well.
And he's always asking like,

1073
01:03:26,670 --> 01:03:30,330
hey, everything good. You good?
Anything you want change and

1074
01:03:30,330 --> 01:03:33,570
very on top of everything.
That's good, man. Is he is your

1075
01:03:33,570 --> 01:03:36,690
age. No, he's, he's a little
older, but

1076
01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:41,910
just really, really nice guy.
And he he actually knew some of

1077
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:45,420
our other guys from Kentucky
prior to being on the gig, which

1078
01:03:45,420 --> 01:03:48,480
works out well and he's a good
hang. He's a really good fit.

1079
01:03:48,660 --> 01:03:52,410
That's a big part of it. I told
him Hey, and as long as this gig

1080
01:03:52,410 --> 01:03:57,420
goes, You're my gear. You're my
guy. I love it. Ah, that's music

1081
01:03:57,420 --> 01:04:00,690
to people's ears. So listen man,
you have received so much great

1082
01:04:00,690 --> 01:04:04,470
advice from all your teachers
from key figures in Nashville.

1083
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,430
Now the year the cat you're 10
years in. We are what advice

1084
01:04:08,430 --> 01:04:11,340
would you give to someone? Is it
the same advice or is it new?

1085
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:12,450
Something different?

1086
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,980
I have a couple piece of advice
some actually learned from

1087
01:04:16,980 --> 01:04:19,170
college from Niven drunk
teachers.

1088
01:04:20,730 --> 01:04:22,680
One being 30 minutes

1089
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:27,990
is technically on time. You have
to be 30 minutes early that will

1090
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:30,570
be on time if you're on time
you're late. I think that's a

1091
01:04:30,570 --> 01:04:33,300
great one. No matter if it's bus
call

1092
01:04:34,380 --> 01:04:38,670
maybe not as much soundcheck you
know type of deal, but like, if

1093
01:04:38,670 --> 01:04:42,330
you're starting out, and you're
the drummer, obviously you have

1094
01:04:42,330 --> 01:04:43,290
to bring all your gear.

1095
01:04:44,340 --> 01:04:48,060
Make sure you have all your
stuff set up as soon as you can,

1096
01:04:48,210 --> 01:04:51,570
and ready to go. So nobody has
to wait on you. I think that's

1097
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:52,020
huge.

1098
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,270
Another great thing I learned in
college was don't suck. Don't

1099
01:04:57,270 --> 01:04:59,730
suck. You know, obviously be
over prepared.

1100
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,400
If you were human things happen,
we make mistakes. Just continue

1101
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,820
on with the song, you can't
start over. You just keep

1102
01:05:08,820 --> 01:05:11,730
pushing through. And don't think
about our next song or else

1103
01:05:11,730 --> 01:05:15,360
you'll just slowly put yourself
in a bad headspace and go

1104
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,710
downhill from there. So don't do
that. And just be nice to

1105
01:05:19,710 --> 01:05:22,530
everybody. You know, it doesn't
matter who you're around don't

1106
01:05:22,530 --> 01:05:23,280
have any ego.

1107
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,180
You know, that's the worst
thing. You can be the best

1108
01:05:27,180 --> 01:05:29,340
player. But if you have a
terrible attitude, no one's

1109
01:05:29,340 --> 01:05:33,150
gonna want to work with you.
Yeah. And always, you know, as

1110
01:05:33,150 --> 01:05:36,120
you said, always say yes to
everything until you don't have

1111
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,570
to, you know, people need to see
you play on all facets. I was

1112
01:05:39,570 --> 01:05:40,080
playing

1113
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,420
kohona wants to every Tuesday
night. Remember that bar south

1114
01:05:45,420 --> 01:05:49,050
on the membrane before they
close? Yeah, I played there

1115
01:05:49,050 --> 01:05:53,310
every Tuesday night go home. For
10 to 12 different artists, two

1116
01:05:53,310 --> 01:05:56,370
songs apiece. I wasn't getting
paid. I was getting free food.

1117
01:05:56,370 --> 01:06:00,660
And if I chose to drink free
alcohol, great exposure. Yeah,

1118
01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:03,000
but it's great exposure. I
remember one artist is like,

1119
01:06:03,660 --> 01:06:06,660
Hey, did you move here to play
Kahala? And I said, No. But

1120
01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:09,840
thank you for asking me that I
thought was very funny. But, you

1121
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,990
know, I play with all these
people to network and to just

1122
01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:17,520
play because I loved it. Yeah.
And not everyone likes to go

1123
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,820
home. I think percussion wise,
we can say it's so hard on your

1124
01:06:20,820 --> 01:06:23,280
back so hard in our back. But I
play it.

1125
01:06:24,510 --> 01:06:27,990
We do an acoustic band full band
song on Friday. So I played that

1126
01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:32,730
one time. And it's not it's not
as bad because I have that dw

1127
01:06:33,330 --> 01:06:34,830
pedal that's connected to it.

1128
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:38,970
Which is we are using the box
kit or using some other

1129
01:06:38,970 --> 01:06:43,890
contraption. I'm just using a
cone from toca. Okay, I was

1130
01:06:43,890 --> 01:06:47,880
saying I have their kickbox
which is super cool. But I think

1131
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,970
they just wanted something quick
that you could bring out. Yeah.

1132
01:06:52,260 --> 01:06:56,370
Perfect for it. So what is what
is your backstage warmup. 30

1133
01:06:56,370 --> 01:07:00,510
minutes to 60 minutes, Singles
Doubles to 45 minutes, I start

1134
01:07:00,510 --> 01:07:04,740
with full strokes. And then I
will do eight on a hand down to

1135
01:07:04,740 --> 01:07:08,010
one and back up. Now I'll do the
same thing but I'll add a double

1136
01:07:08,010 --> 01:07:11,310
at the end. So when you go to
one, you're just doing doubles.

1137
01:07:12,570 --> 01:07:16,650
And then I do pair diddles all
throughout paradores doubles,

1138
01:07:16,650 --> 01:07:20,040
triple pedals. My favorite
rudiment is a periodontal

1139
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,890
diddle. I love doing that. Oh,
very useful.

1140
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:27,270
And then flans flam taps not
just your finger technique and

1141
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:30,540
see how quickly I can get it to
because as you know it gets in

1142
01:07:30,540 --> 01:07:34,710
your forearm and that's got to
be loose as well. Stretch. I

1143
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:39,090
stretch my legs stretch my arms.
I'm hydrated throughout the day.

1144
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,450
Watch what I eat as best as I
can. That desert people so it's

1145
01:07:42,450 --> 01:07:45,030
pretty good. So yeah, that
dessert table. You got to just

1146
01:07:45,030 --> 01:07:46,110
keep on walking.

1147
01:07:47,130 --> 01:07:49,710
You know me and Kurt had figured
it out like my guitar player

1148
01:07:49,710 --> 01:07:52,830
friend Kurt. I know Kurt, he's a
cookie guy. You know, he just

1149
01:07:52,830 --> 01:07:58,020
likes a nice, basic. i We don't
need a seven layer chocolate

1150
01:07:58,020 --> 01:08:01,590
cake and catering. It's It's
It's Wednesday night, right? I

1151
01:08:01,590 --> 01:08:04,140
mean, like who eats the dessert
like that on a Wednesday night.

1152
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,660
We just have cookie, and I mean
or a bite of a cookie and then

1153
01:08:10,170 --> 01:08:12,960
trash. Yeah, that's fine. You
start doing instead of like they

1154
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,600
had churros and Tres Leches
cake. And I had two small

1155
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,750
churros and AAA shows cake. This
was after lunch. And then for

1156
01:08:18,750 --> 01:08:21,660
dinner. They brought in
barbecue. That was fantastic.

1157
01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:24,570
And they had this chocolate
fountain. And I was like, it

1158
01:08:24,570 --> 01:08:28,680
sounds like the Golden Corral.
It was amazing. And I had to

1159
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,230
wait for cookies just dipped
into chocolate. Well, you're

1160
01:08:31,230 --> 01:08:33,870
young man. So what do you do?
And then what are you doing for

1161
01:08:33,900 --> 01:08:36,360
fitness? Are you just doing Are
you like a weights and cardio

1162
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:41,850
cat guy? So I tried to x I've
been pretty consistent with it.

1163
01:08:42,420 --> 01:08:45,600
On the road when we get to the
venue. I'm off the bus bring

1164
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,850
myself in the greenroom and I
just like to walk around the

1165
01:08:47,850 --> 01:08:51,660
venue. I try to get 12,000 steps
before the show, which I usually

1166
01:08:51,660 --> 01:08:55,230
do and I started recently
running the steps like just one

1167
01:08:55,230 --> 01:08:59,100
section going up and down. 10
times, right. Well Don't Tread

1168
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:02,730
back. No, no, definitely not.
But I work out every day I'm

1169
01:09:02,730 --> 01:09:04,080
home to nice

1170
01:09:05,490 --> 01:09:08,850
because you have to be healthy
playing the drums. I don't want

1171
01:09:08,850 --> 01:09:11,040
to keel over and have a heart
attack or something like that.

1172
01:09:11,220 --> 01:09:14,310
Yeah, and you're being fit
anyway. I think it's important

1173
01:09:14,310 --> 01:09:17,370
especially now the take my shirt
off here and there. You look

1174
01:09:17,370 --> 01:09:20,130
great. You look great and your
black shirt. People are always

1175
01:09:20,130 --> 01:09:23,850
asking rich Chris black shirts.
How do you get so many crisp

1176
01:09:23,850 --> 01:09:27,930
black shirts? What's that brand
it looks pretty good. I'm a

1177
01:09:27,930 --> 01:09:30,900
brand ambassador for this
company in LA called built by

1178
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:34,350
basics. That's right. They'll
play bass so I'll you know

1179
01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:37,950
they've been very generous and
you know they make joggers which

1180
01:09:37,950 --> 01:09:40,560
I'm currently wearing. They make
boxer briefs, they make gym

1181
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,950
apparel, they make long sleeve
shirt to this. They make waffle

1182
01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:47,280
shirts, they make all types of
stuff. And I just I was just

1183
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,190
talking to my guy over there
over the weekend because she's

1184
01:09:50,190 --> 01:09:53,430
coming to our Friday night. So
fi show and I like to go on

1185
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:56,400
their app and just kind of see
like, what new things they might

1186
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:56,850
have and

1187
01:09:58,410 --> 01:09:59,970
they make really comfortable

1188
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,410
thing and the logo is very
small. It's right here on the

1189
01:10:04,410 --> 01:10:08,400
bottom of the right side of the
shirt. So when they say oh for a

1190
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,030
TV thing oh, you can't wear any
logos while the logo so small

1191
01:10:12,030 --> 01:10:14,340
you came to see it now they're
just looking for a graphic on

1192
01:10:14,340 --> 01:10:15,240
the chest. They don't.

1193
01:10:16,379 --> 01:10:19,349
But yeah, words are very
comfortable. Nice. Maybe they

1194
01:10:19,349 --> 01:10:22,229
want to maybe they want like a
like a Silverfox type model for

1195
01:10:22,229 --> 01:10:27,929
their. I can see no put you in
touch. I love it. I love it. You

1196
01:10:27,929 --> 01:10:30,719
wear V necks sometimes, right?
Oh, yeah. Like I like these make

1197
01:10:30,719 --> 01:10:34,109
those as well. I love the V's
man. That'll be my thing. I wear

1198
01:10:34,109 --> 01:10:36,479
the V's you wear the colors. It

1199
01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:40,320
works. Because I have to
coordinate sometimes with some

1200
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,540
other friends like hey, you were
in those shoes. Uh, you and I

1201
01:10:42,540 --> 01:10:45,270
both on the same pair of like, I
had breakfast with my buddy

1202
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:47,760
Larry aberaman right before
this. And he and I both have the

1203
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,100
same pair of boots and we have
to like check in with you. We're

1204
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:53,280
in the woods today or what you
know. Hey, listen, let's close

1205
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,060
this out by doing the Fast Five.
It's never Yes. But it's really

1206
01:10:57,060 --> 01:11:00,540
more the favorite five. So
favorite color.

1207
01:11:02,970 --> 01:11:06,780
That's hard. I feel like I don't
always have a favorite color. If

1208
01:11:06,780 --> 01:11:12,480
I'd really choose one. Your own.
I would say black or recently

1209
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:15,120
black because I wear a lot of
it. charcoal or

1210
01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:20,700
be like a light blue. I guess.
So cute. And how about how about

1211
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:22,710
your favorite food you like?
It's like a certain dish a

1212
01:11:22,710 --> 01:11:29,010
certain ethnic. Oh, man. I mean,
I love pizza. If I can eat that

1213
01:11:29,010 --> 01:11:32,910
every day and not gain a pound I
would that are like, I love

1214
01:11:32,910 --> 01:11:35,340
Chinese food. Indian food. Yes.

1215
01:11:37,140 --> 01:11:39,630
can never go wrong obviously
with Italian as well. Yeah,

1216
01:11:39,630 --> 01:11:43,170
let's hit let's hit that Taj
Indian buffet. It's on Nolan's

1217
01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:46,650
Ville road. Now a couple of guys
were talking about that. It

1218
01:11:46,740 --> 01:11:51,090
starts I think it starts at 1130
or noon and it's just really

1219
01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:54,180
good Indian buffet. favorite
drink.

1220
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:58,170
You know, recently I've been
doing a lot of tequila water.

1221
01:11:59,220 --> 01:12:04,470
very skinny. I you know, I did
that whole 30 diet in January

1222
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:06,150
with my girlfriend and I
remember we went to go have

1223
01:12:06,150 --> 01:12:09,300
sushi and you're like I'm doing
the whole 30 Yeah. And he I lost

1224
01:12:09,300 --> 01:12:13,500
15 pounds from it. I feel great.
And I'd like to kill two cos

1225
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:17,100
amigos is my go to look. I
thought you were you in Clooney.

1226
01:12:17,670 --> 01:12:22,230
I love it. I love it. So that's
probably my favorite drink. What

1227
01:12:22,230 --> 01:12:24,750
so that's your probably favorite
drink and then are you coffee

1228
01:12:24,750 --> 01:12:27,060
got your coffee carry? Yeah, how
much coffee and wait consumed

1229
01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:32,460
gallons rivers of coffee. I you
know, funny enough. I had made

1230
01:12:32,460 --> 01:12:35,700
coffee this morning. I didn't
have any. Because I've gotten

1231
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:37,920
back from the gym and I had
showered and I've gotten coffee

1232
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,370
with Steve mesomorph Hi, I'm
overdue. And Steve, we got to

1233
01:12:41,370 --> 01:12:44,370
get you on the show. Because
Steve was one of those guys way

1234
01:12:44,370 --> 01:12:48,090
back when we all had pagers and
fanny packs. He was nice enough

1235
01:12:48,090 --> 01:12:51,120
to let me and Jim Riley and Pat
McDonald and Lee Kelly and

1236
01:12:51,150 --> 01:12:54,120
everybody sit in because he had
the house gig at barbarous,

1237
01:12:54,270 --> 01:12:58,830
which is no longer there. And
anyway, Steve was up. So we just

1238
01:12:58,830 --> 01:13:02,340
got coffee, so I got my coffee
fix. They're nice. And I still

1239
01:13:02,340 --> 01:13:05,250
have coffee. My coffee pot is
probably cold by now so I'll

1240
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:09,000
pour that out. But iced coffee.
Like a cup a cup of day. One

1241
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:14,310
cup. Yeah, I told you kind of
Oh, that's great, bro. Drink it

1242
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:14,880
black.

1243
01:13:15,930 --> 01:13:19,440
I used to not drink it black but
since the whole 30 thing I've

1244
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:23,520
been drinking it black and
although today i i have a sweet

1245
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,530
tooth so I gotta mocha. But

1246
01:13:26,730 --> 01:13:29,670
try to drink it black. So yeah,
one cup. I feel like if I have

1247
01:13:30,060 --> 01:13:30,810
three

1248
01:13:32,010 --> 01:13:36,000
I kind of get a headache. Oh, if
I do like I'll sometimes do a

1249
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,370
second one later on the day on
the road from my kind of field

1250
01:13:38,370 --> 01:13:43,170
on will tire and I didn't get an
app and yeah, our band is that

1251
01:13:43,170 --> 01:13:46,500
we are cough Ontarians like we
are so easy to please we just

1252
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:50,310
like look at when it comes to
bus stock. We gots to have the

1253
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:56,220
strongest darkest French's
boldest roast coffee. And I mean

1254
01:13:56,220 --> 01:13:58,620
there's some days you're like,
Oh my God, you're on your fifth

1255
01:13:58,620 --> 01:14:01,860
cut like me and like I mean,
seriously, I go if I could do if

1256
01:14:01,860 --> 01:14:03,870
I do four cups sometimes I'm
like, I ain't getting a

1257
01:14:03,870 --> 01:14:07,200
headache. I'm getting the
squirts. Why? Especially using a

1258
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,810
porter and Davies thrown that's
why I only try to have one cup

1259
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:14,490
it's tactile Okay, these are
these are the last two. And

1260
01:14:14,490 --> 01:14:18,660
there's so hard and I understand
if you have to have multiple

1261
01:14:19,470 --> 01:14:24,480
answers favorites saw. Is there
a song that comes on in your

1262
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:29,220
car? And you're like, top down
crank it up? It just keeps

1263
01:14:29,220 --> 01:14:31,950
coming into your life favorite
song of the week because of the

1264
01:14:31,980 --> 01:14:34,950
drummer because of the melody.
Oh man.

1265
01:14:37,170 --> 01:14:40,770
I have a couple is kind of a
man. You're Jake summers you can

1266
01:14:40,770 --> 01:14:41,190
have a cup.

1267
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,090
Well, I guess I have to say it's
top up because my car doesn't

1268
01:14:45,090 --> 01:14:45,720
have a sunroof.

1269
01:14:47,490 --> 01:14:47,850
But

1270
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:51,270
I've always loved

1271
01:14:53,340 --> 01:14:54,090
Oh, man.

1272
01:14:56,130 --> 01:14:59,970
I might have JIRA. Yeah, I still
actually need to dig more.

1273
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,280
And then but I've always loved

1274
01:15:04,710 --> 01:15:07,380
can't stand losing by the
police. I love Stewart Copeland

1275
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:13,230
the best. I love that does do
and then and then

1276
01:15:16,049 --> 01:15:18,539
it's either tween these two,

1277
01:15:19,859 --> 01:15:21,689
the pretender or

1278
01:15:24,150 --> 01:15:26,580
it's best if you buy the Foo
Fighters and those drum tracks

1279
01:15:26,580 --> 01:15:29,970
just nice. They're really hard.
And then

1280
01:15:32,910 --> 01:15:35,100
I think it's just something to
salvage with it but uh,

1281
01:15:36,270 --> 01:15:38,790
you know, come together by the
Beatles. All right.

1282
01:15:39,900 --> 01:15:42,540
And your left hand leads, so you
know, you could do it like rink.

1283
01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:47,010
But, you know, I love Ringo. I
think a lot of people kind of

1284
01:15:47,010 --> 01:15:51,480
like, like, Oh, why Ringo? Well,
she was the backbeat of one of

1285
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:52,500
the best bands ever.

1286
01:15:54,060 --> 01:15:56,910
I mean, there's this thing
there's so many different fino

1287
01:15:57,630 --> 01:16:01,440
choices you choose Van Halen,
and Alex Van Halen. Holy smokes.

1288
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,570
You're hot for teacher Sure.

1289
01:16:04,980 --> 01:16:08,910
I haven't even tried playing
that nor will I. But now those

1290
01:16:08,910 --> 01:16:12,210
are great choices man. Two Foo
Fighters tracks and a classic

1291
01:16:12,210 --> 01:16:15,330
police track before Stewart
started cranking up the snare

1292
01:16:15,330 --> 01:16:16,890
drum he had that kind of fat
back

1293
01:16:17,970 --> 01:16:18,360
you know?

1294
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,960
In his hi hat work and Rod were
impeccable. It is I still all

1295
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,730
that stuff. Favorite movie bro.

1296
01:16:27,810 --> 01:16:31,350
Oh man. See someone just asked
me this recently and I don't

1297
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:34,710
think I have one. So I get a lot
of Stephen King you know

1298
01:16:34,710 --> 01:16:41,220
Shawshank Redemption. The Green
Mile Star Wars yaws Close

1299
01:16:41,220 --> 01:16:47,670
Encounters mines. Alien years
alien. Ridley Scott's Alien.

1300
01:16:47,670 --> 01:16:52,080
I've probably seen it 1000
times. I like more of the comedy

1301
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:57,780
stuff. Not that I don't like the
horror stuff. But oh man if I

1302
01:16:57,780 --> 01:16:59,220
think if I had to choose

1303
01:17:02,070 --> 01:17:02,580
comedy.

1304
01:17:03,690 --> 01:17:06,990
So you're talking like Judd
Apatow. This is 40 knocked up

1305
01:17:06,990 --> 01:17:09,930
kind of a vibe. Are we talking
more like like calling brothers

1306
01:17:09,930 --> 01:17:10,890
Farrelly brothers?

1307
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,190
Even like old Adam Sandler stuff
like waterboy that's a great

1308
01:17:17,190 --> 01:17:21,180
one. Yeah. Okay. Happy Gilmore.
Come on.

1309
01:17:23,340 --> 01:17:24,720
It's not even Judd Apatow.

1310
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:32,130
stepbrothers Will Ferrell and
John C. Reilly. I saw you on my

1311
01:17:32,130 --> 01:17:36,270
drums. You were on my drums. I
think those movies are just like

1312
01:17:36,270 --> 01:17:41,130
classics. I saw a shirt that
said, author fucking Catalina

1313
01:17:41,130 --> 01:17:42,210
wine mixer.

1314
01:17:43,830 --> 01:17:46,830
That that's a great movie. I
love those shirts, those kind of

1315
01:17:46,830 --> 01:17:50,100
like kind of like pop, you know,
pop culture shirts, because

1316
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:52,290
there's some really great
phrases on those. But they

1317
01:17:52,290 --> 01:17:56,100
always fit horrible in the arms
and stuff. You know what I mean?

1318
01:17:56,100 --> 01:18:01,170
So then you're tailoring a $30 T
shirt. Sorry, Urban Outfitters.

1319
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:04,410
Yeah, that's probably a good
place to buy him. Do This was so

1320
01:18:04,410 --> 01:18:05,310
fun. And

1321
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,630
I'm so thrilled and happy for
your success. Your parents have

1322
01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:13,890
to be so happy and are thrilled.
There was no plan B either,

1323
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,980
which was nice. Yeah, Plan B and
maybe maybe do a little

1324
01:18:16,980 --> 01:18:19,200
teaching, you know, maybe you
know, but you're already doing

1325
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,980
that. You know? Exactly. I feel
like you can do more teaching

1326
01:18:22,980 --> 01:18:24,810
privately and really

1327
01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:29,490
grasp someone's attention of
what they want to learn,

1328
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,840
compared to teaching to a
roomful of students who are

1329
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:38,130
doing multi different
instruments. Yep. Yeah. Man,

1330
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,020
really, really enjoyable. What's
the best way for people to get

1331
01:18:40,020 --> 01:18:42,930
in touch with you if they want
to ask you a question or a troll

1332
01:18:42,930 --> 01:18:49,560
you? Um, my website is Jake
summers. drums.com. And it's s o

1333
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:55,080
m m e r s? Yes. Correct. And on
there, there's a contact portion

1334
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:56,850
on the website where they can
email me.

1335
01:18:58,110 --> 01:19:03,690
Instagram is Jake summers seven.
Those are probably the two best

1336
01:19:04,170 --> 01:19:06,180
ways to get in contact with me.
Yeah.

1337
01:19:08,970 --> 01:19:13,500
I guess tick tock. I don't
really know. I mean now, but I'd

1338
01:19:13,500 --> 01:19:17,310
probably say email and
Instagram, email and Instagram.

1339
01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:20,550
That is what the kids are doing
these days, man. Incredible. I

1340
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:24,150
hope you guys have a fantastic
rest of the year. I know we got

1341
01:19:24,150 --> 01:19:26,970
to get together soon here and do
the thing. But ladies and

1342
01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:32,700
gentlemen, that is Jake summers.
10 years with Luke. Luke combs

1343
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:35,880
man incredible man. Thanks for
joining us. Thank you for having

1344
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,340
me. I appreciate that. Ken, to
all the listeners out there.

1345
01:19:38,340 --> 01:19:41,820
Thank you so much for listening.
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1347
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,960
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Hey, we'll be here. We'll see

1348
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,680
you soon Jake. Thanks, man.
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1349
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:57,630
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1350
01:19:57,630 --> 01:19:59,970
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