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Welcome to the Energetic Radio podcast. This episode is brought to you

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by the school of play dotco, hosted by Dale Sibonham and

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Paul Campbell. Each week, we'll bring to you tips, strategies, and ideas

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on how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life and those you

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share with. Welcome back, everybody. This is episode

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number 335. My name is Dale Silebottom, joined by

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the one and only Paul Campbell. How are you, mate? Very well, mate. How are

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you? Good, buddy. Now, you've got a stat for us about number

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335. So it's 335. I got I got 2. I don't

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know if one's true or not. Number 1, 335.

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If you talk about the 335th day in a year, that'll be the

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1st December, potentially. It's like a 1% club. Yeah.

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We we do love that show. That'd be great. I might be a day off

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here, but the 1st December, people put their trees up. Oh, stop it. Nothing but

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joy and happiness. Let's be honest, there are people in the world out there that

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love to get that tree up as early as possible. They do. I'm not sure

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about your household, but in our household we wait for the 1st December to roll

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around to chuck it up. That's good. Not one word of a lie, mate, my

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kids the other day were asking if we can start When you pull up? Yeah.

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Jesus, real king. I'm not sure where they saw Christmas, maybe the shops

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already got that stuff out and about, but, and I might be wrong, listeners

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feel free to correct me, but 300 and 35th day of the year, that might

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be around the 1st December. Oh, I like that one. But then the fact that

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we know is true, so I looked up. The Dutch Sicily war

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lasted 335 years between 1651

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and 1986, but it had no battles or deaths. I'm so

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glad I know that. Thank you. That's a good that's a good war. Right? No

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battles or deaths. Let's have more of them, please. That'd be fantastic. Thank you for

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that, mate. Now, I've got the, I'm in your seat today. I've got the

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camera on me. If people are listening to this, and check out

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our Instagram at energetic radio. I've had the, fresh fade. The ears are

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lowered, looking sharp, I would say. I'm gonna give myself a compliment there. Now

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before we get into the second episode of the best of you series, which,

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we've really enjoyed. The feedback was really nice from, the first one.

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Little bit of a shout out for things we've got coming up. So, obviously, we've

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done our talks all around the world and, a lot of time they're just

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for private companies, corporate, schools, sports clubs. We are

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now branching out and we've booked some big theatres. So in

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October November, we've got shows in Shepparton, Parkdale,

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and Geelong. If you go to episode number 335,

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there'll be a link on that. I'm obviously speaking, you're gonna be emceeing

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Paul, and we've got Paul Watkins coming along as well. So on the link in

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the show notes, you can go and check out and have a read about the

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the evening. It's called elevate your life and really good for partners,

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friends, workplaces, kids, families, anyone to come along.

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Paul and myself, we've got different unique styles. You can see both our

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TED Talks on there. But essentially, we're trying to bring what

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we do to everybody to share that and have a really positive

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experience. So, they are big theaters where a couple of them are about half

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full, couple one isn't. So if you if you wanna,

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obviously, read more about that, go and check that out. But more importantly,

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let's go on with today. It is all about relationships and connections. Oh.

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A 100%. Love this cam boat. How good is it? So,

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yeah, second episode, the best of you series, we're going to bring 4 of these

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2, and it's all about relationships and connections. And let's be honest, right? I

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think that's what life is about. Like seriously, that's what life is about. And if

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we link back episode, you know, the first episode, the first episode in

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the series of the best of you, which was mindfulness and gratitude,

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let's be honest, most of the things we find that we're grateful for or the

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little snippets where we stop and smell the rose and that's awesome comes when we're

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hanging out with people and we have our connections and relationships and they come from

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enjoying them and spending them with people that we care about. Right. So if we're

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going to focus on mindfulness and gratitude, it makes complete sense to now really hone

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in and just plant that seed in listeners is about the importance of

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working really hard and striving to have healthy relationships and

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connections with those around you. And they take effort. They do. Like

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anything in life, I don't know. It's exactly what we spoke about last week.

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Nothing you can't take friends for granted. And I think if,

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it's not that I like doing this, but I I've always passionate, like, not passionate

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about I'm always curious about when people are dying, what they say is important to

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them. Mhmm. And it's always people, like, I wish I had worked not as hard

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and invested more time in my friends or family, or I spent more time

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and was more present, you know, because at the end of the day, that that's

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what really matters. Not what you own, how much money you have, like, your

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job title. Because when you're retired, no one cares what you did. Yep. Just comes

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back to are you a good person, and do you have good people in your

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life? Yeah. So I think it it it is one of those things that you

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don't wanna just cruise through life so focused and fixated on,

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you know, item status and and things like that that when you do

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realize that they don't matter anymore, it's too late. Yep. I think

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it's a currency it's a it's a currency that you can never invest enough

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time in. And the best thing about these currencies, it's free. 100%. And

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and I was a victim of it. I'm sure you've been a victim of it.

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I reckon 98% of the population would be a victim of it, is you go

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through the social norms. Right? Like you you go to school, you think

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about your career, it's jammed down your throat, you get your career, you focus on

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that and what you wanna become, get your house, your mortgage, etcetera, etcetera, cars, your

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holidays. And then you'll probably start to come through that once you've had kids and

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in your forties and you start edging through the Do you come through it?

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alright. No, I think you do. And I think the more you read, the more

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you learn, the more you realize that, you know, holy shit, I'm halfway through my

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life now. Let's just be honest. I'm halfway through it. And I think that's when

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the penny drops that you go, yeah, if you think about what, what you're going

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to think on your death bed, and that's such a powerful thing to think about.

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I know it's pretty morbid, but it does allow you to reset your mindset and

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you're like, man, if I'm on my death bed, what's going to be important to

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me. And you're right. It's not your career. Like, yeah, you might get, it might

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be fulfilling you to impact on people in a really positive way, but the things

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you're really going to care about is how you treated people,

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what you known, who you known as and who you known by and who you're

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remembered by as, and just, yeah,

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those rock solid connections you made along the way and how you treated those people

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that cared about you. That's the most important thing. It's not so much yeah.

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It's important for the people who you care about, but it's the people that care

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about you that you've really gotta work on and give to. And as you said

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before, don't take it for granted. And every one of us do it. Like, I'll

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put my hand up. Oh, we all do. We all get complacent. There's times you

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get complacent and you, and you take certain relationships for granted. They're always going to

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be there. Right. But let's be honest. Shit happens sometimes and

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they're not there forever. You know what I mean? So, yeah. So take

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this as a little moment in time if you're listening and you're in your ears

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and just to go, you know what, let's, let's put some effort in and

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not take anything for granted and, and reach out, reach out to someone you

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haven't spoke to for a little while. Think about those people

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that love you and care about you and have a think about how you're treating

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them. And that's, I've had to do a bit of reflection on that lately massively

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in the last year or 2, for sure. And I'm definitely

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striving to try and be, you know, better husband, better father, better mate, those sorts

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of things. And inadvertently

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when you do put a bit of thought into that side of things, I think

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once again, you feel proud of yourself and you feel a little bit better yourself

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that you are being a better person towards the others, and they get something out

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of it and gives back to you as well. Oh, so true. Now and one

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thing I love is it's always nice when you get messages on your birthday, and

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this is going out on Monday. It is your birthday, Canva. So happy birthday.

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We we're obviously prerecording this because we've got, a full week of

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workshops away all over Victoria. 1st week for you of a full 5

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5 road trip. Well, let's call it a junket. Let's get it. It's it's a

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road trip inside. I'm looking forward to it. It is a junket. But it is

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your birthday today. So happy birthday, mate. Thank you. 20

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7. Oh, I love you. You can you can stay, mate. You can

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definitely stay. It's patronizing and then there's bullshitting again. I know. And there was a

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time when people would say, oh, you still look like me in twenties and thirties,

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but I reckon the gray hair now that you're showing through. Oh, got a story

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before we talk about this. So Go for it. Last week, we're doing a, workshop

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together. And I'm asking me, I don't know why he told me this,

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but, we're we're obviously presenting together. And one of the students, beautiful

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student, obviously, very switched on. I was I could empathize with him. I thought, you're

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you're right. You've got things sorted. I actually said to Cambo, oh, is

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he your son? This is a true

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story, ladies and gentlemen. Let's just put things in line here. The grade 6

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student, right there doing our thing. We look the same. We dress the same.

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We're both idiots. And, and, yeah, this this girl grabbed

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me and she said, hey, is is he your son? And I was

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mind blown. I was like, what? And I said to the little girl, I said,

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is it my grey hair that that that made it? She she

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went, yep. That's pretty much it. Well, I love that you told me. I thought

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that I probably wouldn't have told you if that was yellow. But what I

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what I brought that up is, obviously, happy birthday, mate. But more importantly, don't

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just reach out to somebody when everyone else does. This is probably the thing that

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a long way around going about it. Do it just because.

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Do it because it's just a Wednesday at 9 AM. Do it just because

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nobody else is. It's always nice to let people know happy birthday, but

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on your birthday, predominantly, I'd say you feel pretty good anyway.

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Yeah. Because you're getting love from everywhere. Yeah. So my thing would be, try and

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do it when nobody else is doing it, and just have no agenda just

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because. That's when it's really powerful. Yeah. Because people aren't

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expecting it, You know? That I I think that's the biggest thing.

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Like, awesome that you send someone to ring them on their birthday, but let's be

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honest, they're probably getting 20 calls. I I shouldn't say that because maybe not everyone

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is. Don't just take that for granted, but maybe set aside

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every 6 months. Like, if you if you reach out so reach out to them

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on their birthday and then send a reminder for 6 months time and reach out

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again. Yeah. Say happy half year or something. I don't know. Like, just because

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I think sometimes people worry, you know, like, ah, geez, I haven't

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reached out to that person for quite some time. And then it's just, then some

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Mexican standoff, right? Some Mexican standoff as to who does it. But I

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guarantee it, no one is going to think ill of your or be

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upset if that your name pops up in their phone screen. Never, you

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know, they're going to have a little sense of guilt or jib as I haven't

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contacted them, contacted them for a while either. Right? So 2 way street always takes

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2 to tango. But never feel

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concerned that you haven't reached out for a little while. You're actually gonna put a

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smile on their face and make their day, even if it's been 4 or 5

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months since reaching out and then it's kicked off again. Right? Then it's rekindled and

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then the ball's in their court, but it doesn't have to be in their court

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because you can It's not a game. No. It's not a game. But you're not

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the only one in this world who's hasn't reached out

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to a mate for a long time. I guarantee every single person is right. I

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think every group's got an elite mate that he's awesome at it. You know, I

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think think ours is is a bloke called Ace is always awesome at reaching out

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to everybody. But it doesn't matter if you're not that person

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just pick up the phone and give him a call, you know, leave a voicemail,

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send a text, whatever it might be. I received an awesome one the other day.

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I was telling you about, you know, maybe hadn't haven't spoken to him for quite

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some time. He shot me message, made my day. You know what I mean? It

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was awesome. And then we're back off and running. You know what I mean? So,

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now bite the bullet, be the one that that leads the

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cause, leads away, and reach out to someone. Yeah. Use this as a

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reminder to reach out to 1 person today or tomorrow. Love that. And it doesn't

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just have to be a text message or a call. And this is there are

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a number of different ways to do it. Obviously, they're pretty traditional

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sort of ways you can do it. One that, one of my roommates,

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Pico, does a lot is he would just send a picture of,

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like, me and him, like, doing something over the years. And, like,

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you don't even need words with it, but that picture not only reminds me,

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you know, how lucky I am to have him as a friend in my life,

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but it shows me that he's thinking of me as well. And I know he

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does that to all his friends. It's a it's a really similar one. I think

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that's the best thing about devices, our phones. They've got so many

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photos on them. Yeah. Just scroll like crazy and just randomly pick

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1, send it to that person, and let them know what they mean to you.

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Yeah. You're just right. Like, mate, miss, you remember this time, ta da.

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Whatever it is, but I find that's a really nice reminder of

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things you've done with somebody else that doesn't take a long time. Yeah.

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But like we always say with everything, you've gotta be intentional about it. Unless

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traditionally is we are busy. Our lives go on and we forget about it, and

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you're like, oh, damn. I forgot to do that. Yes, you gotta be intentional

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with it. Like, you know, a podcast or a meeting, or you've got

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work, or kids swimming lesson. Like, you you don't just willy nilly do it.

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It's traditional thing you do each week or whatever it is. I I think this

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has to be the same. You've been intentional. And yet, especially as you age,

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right? Think about when you're younger, you're, you're in the mixer at school, you're surrounded

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by 100 of people. You naturally, you know, you've got a group of friends

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or whatever it might be early twenties, you sort of keep that group of friends,

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whatever it might be. But as you get a little bit older, it gets a

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little bit harder. Your friendship group definitely shrinks. And that's just

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part of life. It's human nature. It's completely fine. Especially when families come

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along. And so that's the time, you know, I think when you've got to go,

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right, I've got to be accountable. We were talking in episode

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1 about who you're accountable for your mental health and well-being, right? It's on you

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to, to make a change. Then you've got to be accountable for putting your hand

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up and going, right. I need to get myself connected. So if you're out there

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and you're not connected really well, and you feel a little bit isolated, then it's

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on you to get yourself connected. And today's day and age with, you know, the,

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the phones we've got and, you know, like I'm a member of the, of the

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Chelsea Facebook group and you can post on there and check on there.

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You know what I mean? Hey, anyone doing this on a Saturday or is there

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anyone I can catch up with to go for a bike ride or anyone keen

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for here to golf, whatever it might be. And what randoms? Yeah. And there'll be,

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there'll be people out there that will throw their hand back to you and go,

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Hey, we're doing this on this day and time, rock down. That's cool. That's awesome.

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Yeah. Even my local footy clubs, I'm still play over 30 fives footy.

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And we get new blokes down all the time that don't know people at the

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club. They rock down and they instantly feel connected

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to 30, 40, 50, 60 blokes. And they walk out of that first session

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loving it. And we generally see them back for session 2, session 3, and then

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they're hooked. Yep. Right. And I'm walking part of that. Like I started playing

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footy Parkdale, footy club and new 1 or 2 blokes. Now I've

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got 30 Heart and soul of the club. Yeah. 30, 30 new mates. You know

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what I mean? So, I feel more connected than ever. And when you do catch

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up with those people, it just absolutely fills your cup and it's unreal. But

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once again, it takes effort. Yeah. Right. You're going to train, you're turning

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up, you're committing, you're playing footy every second weekend. Yep. Cause I would

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say, I would say 50, 60, 70% of the people

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in the track finish work and go, you know, cannot

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be stuck getting there tonight. And I guarantee once they rock up and they feel

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the banter of the mates and they're around people and they're connected and they've got

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some relationships, they walk away going home feeling better

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themselves before they did. And they treat their families better. They're happier.

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They go to work the next day a bit better. Everything flows from there. Correct.

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Right. But it just takes that effort and energy to make it happen. Well, it's

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belonging. It it's being part of something. Yep. And I think I was reading a

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stat the other day that, like, loneliness, particularly between 18

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to 25 year olds, you know, it's like 40 40 to

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45% of those people feel lonely, feel like they've got no

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one in their life. They don't have one person that they could call at any

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time if something was going on. Yep. And that for me is that's so

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sad. But Isn't it? The the like, devices are great. We've spoken

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about them, you know, how easy is to reach out to somebody, but then they're

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not going to be the way to make you feel like you've got relationships. Yeah.

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Yes. You're talking to people, but you're not seeing them. You're not feeling their energy.

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If the pandemic's taught us anything, if you're feeling lonely, the best thing you

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can do is go and join any club or any

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community. You know, it might be a cooking class, sculpture, painting,

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rowing, running, rolling. I don't know what it is. Anything like you said footy. I

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remember when I moved down this way, I didn't really know anyone. I joined up

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at a gym, you know. Like, and you go each day and you see the

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same people. You know, and I've got lifelong friends because of it, but

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not and I suppose this is the thing, like, you know, we've spoken about a

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lot. None of these happen unless, you know, it it it is. Like, you feel

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you will feel anxious because you are stepping somewhere where you don't know

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anybody, but that's where the growth occurs. When you do put yourself in that

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situation and allow yourself to be vulnerable and meet new people, because we've

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all been there before. And that's what you've got to remember, like, if you're going

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into a new situation, everybody else that's already there was in your shoes at

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some stage. It doesn't feel like that now because, like you said, after

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2 or 3 trainings, you got 30 blokes. I still remember, like, because I was

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a PT, I run businesses, and I was walking to a gym, and I, like,

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I felt so nervous, but I should've felt comfortable, you know, like, that's that

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was where I spent, you know, 10 years of my life. Yeah. But now I

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was going into a completely new environment, and I've felt so nervous. Like,

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I was the shyest I've ever been. I was quiet. Now you walk in there,

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it's completely different. You know, I've been gone for 3 years, and

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got brilliant friends in the area. Our kids go to,

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like, daycare and kinder together. Yep. You know, catch up

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out of gym hours and that's just because like minded

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people that, you know, pretty similar, you wanna move your body, you you wanna look

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after yourself, you connect, you know, and those

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relationships worked because I feel there's no alcohol

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involved. Yes. Now when we catch up, I'd love a beer. We always have one

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and things like that, but you meet people outside of

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a a nightclub or a pub or something like that. You're moving your body, connecting.

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You got things in common like you were footy. Do you know what I mean?

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And then you allow those friendships to blossom, and then you can do other things.

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But, that would be my number one tip for anybody that, yes,

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there'll be people in your life that reach out to and, you

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know, old friends, lifelong friends, stay connected with them. But when it

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comes to, you know, our friendships do shrink, you know, and particularly

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when you're having kids and they're starting to make friends, and so you automatically

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become friends with their friends. And I hope my boys' friends'

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parents are cool. But if they're not, you know, I'll be understanding. But the

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thing is, like, you've gotta be actively doing things each

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day, I feel, that not only connects you with the people in your life, friends

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and family already have, but allows you to grow and put you outside your comfort

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zone. And, like, I I suppose I didn't do that for

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a long time, because I didn't have to. Because I just worked all

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the time, I was always meeting new people, but it was always on my terms.

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Yeah. They were coming to me. So people go, are you really confident? And things

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like, yeah, I am. But that's because I always I was always in control.

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So what I'm saying is it's been super rewarding when I

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had to do the like, take the shoes off and go on the other way.

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Yep. And it's been amazing because I actually got to feel what it

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was like. Yeah. And, yeah, it is a lot harder, but it's also

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a lot more rewarding. Yep. So, yeah, that would be my thing. I love that.

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And I wanna pull out one rip from that. I spoke for a long time.

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That's alright. That's alright. That's alright. That's alright. That's alright. That's alright. I was not

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in my listening. It's just that you feel their energy. You know what I mean?

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When you actually yeah. That's about the phone thing and and, you know, young people

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might say, well, we're more connected than ever. Yeah. You are. But let me tell

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you not because you're not feeling their energy. Correct. And we and we're made to

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feel energy of each other. And you know, Shelly, if you're a

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business owner, if you're a manager, if you're a leader of some form and you're

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running a meeting, whatever it might be, make sure here's another tip, like make sure

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you're doing something at the start of your meetings, at the end of your meetings

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or some aspect of your day where you're working to connect

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people in that workplace and actually connect them. You know what I mean? So don't

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just go in your meeting and, and start it right. This is what we need

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to work on. These are our KPIs, whatever it might be, etcetera, etcetera. Actually start

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the meeting with some sort of activity that allows people to share some

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stories with each other or, you know, some moments they're proud of. In a creative

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way, though. Not an awkward way. No. No. Not an awkward way, you know. And

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we do it all the time. We're full of these awesome little ideas and little

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games that we play that connect people and trick them into sharing their stories and

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those things. Cause once you do that and you create a culture at your workplace

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or at your school, wherever it might be in your mateship group, and you create

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a culture where people are open and sharing and a little bit vulnerable,

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it creates such better trust and better bonds. I

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promise you productivity is gonna go through the roof. Everyone's gonna love

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walking that door and the whole place is gonna There's gonna be a great vibe.

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And all of a sudden you're retaining your staff. People wanna stay, people wanna wanna

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rock up to work and it's catch 22, right? Everyone's getting something out of it.

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They're boosting their mental health and well-being. They're feeling bloody good about themselves. And

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lo and behold, your workplace is thriving. Oh, funny that isn't it? Yeah.

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So, you know what I mean? We set this up. We wanna give you guys

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tips and little yeah. We wanna talk candidly, but give you guys some tips and

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strategies. And there's another one. You know what I mean? So yes, use this for

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yourself, but now think about who's around you. Think about your employees, think about

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your work colleagues. You don't have to be the big boss to bring this in.

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You know what I mean? You can rock after the boss and say, hey, let's

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try doing this little activity. And if you're not sure reach out. Yeah. A

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100%. Honestly, if you're not sure if you're like, guys, what's one idea I can

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do? Like, you know, I love gratitude Pictionary. I do. Bloody love gratitude

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Pictionary. We play at the start of our meetings when we're at work. And, it's

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a cracker and it's such a simple game that is so and it's not

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intrusive. Yeah. So if you're not sure, reach out to us. We would happily

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share some ideas with you guys, jump on our jump on the other school of

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play Instagram. There's there's full of them. I think we released,

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gratitude paddocks the other day as a giveaway on Instagram.

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And that's a great, that's a crackle little activity you could do for 5 minutes

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to start a meeting or just rambling with a work colleague or even better yet

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just rambling with a mate. Yes. That's the other thing, right? Like

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we don't, I think we're getting better at it. How

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great are we as friends and family to actually sit down and

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talk about each other? I don't know. We talk about a lot of other

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people in your conversations, you know, a little bit of gossip, whatever it might be,

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what's going on other people's lives or, but but, yeah, how can you actually sit

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down with a mate and actually get a little bit deep and a little bit

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open and and really test the friendship out and get deep with it? And that's,

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yeah, that's another challenge is yeah. Challenge you at some stage get deep with

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the mate. Yeah. I think you need to I think it probably needs to be

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done through some form of play. Yeah. So you sorta and like you said before

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that trust and things, but you gotta feel safe. Yep. And if you don't feel

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safe, then that sharing is not gonna occur. Yeah. Or it's gonna be done in

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an awkward way, and it'll probably have a detrimental effect of what you're trying to

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achieve. Yeah. Going back to when you mentioned, gratitude

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Pictionary. So I've obviously used that in my keynotes for a long time. That's

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how we met. I still remember out of all those keynotes we did,

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you got up and I'd never get people to share, but you got up and

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shared, and you you had the trophy cause you just won it with Parkdale. And

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then I remember that, and then we bumped into each other and so forth.

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This is very true. You are spot on, mate. So I was in the room

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with what, 80 principals? Yep. 80 school principals in the room, and we and you

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played that game with us. And, yeah, and I drew a very average

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picture. I wanna judge it on a new picture. Very average picture

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of, of of us winning a flag. And and, yeah, it was

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brave enough to stand up and and and share that with the with the with

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the crowd. And and I love that that's something that you've remembered to me. Yeah.

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And when people are brave enough to stand up and do something, I think

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that brave is what we're talking about. You've gotta be brave to keep

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connections going, you know, like, particularly if you are the one

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that's often instigating it. You know, like, sometimes it can be hard

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work. Yeah. Yes. You wanna make yourself not hard work, but more

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importantly, you wanna do things that are memorable. Like, I didn't even know you then,

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and I still remember that. I've got quite a good memory, I'll be honest about

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that. But, it's funny what you remember when people share a

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personal story because you feel connected to it. Yep. You know, if you just had

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to go to 0 1 a premiership, like, yeah. But you I you'd say it

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parked down. I'm like, I know your coaches. And you build connections through that, like

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we said, because we know people. Yeah. You remember things

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like that. So I think, as you said, great for connecting with

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a friend, but in a workplace or whatever, like,

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remembering things about people you work with or, you know, their

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lives, that is a really powerful way to make them feel valued. More

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importantly, give them a purpose to come work because they they they wanna be

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there. Yeah. And it's not a corny way of doing it Yeah. But it's a

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great way to remember it yourself. So, I I think that's a brilliant idea.

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Even what I say now, particularly with our student talks is, we get the

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students to do it, but then we challenge them to take it home. So, you

415
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know, you talk about having an open conversation. This is one that anybody

416
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can do tonight or whenever you pick it up. Give everybody a

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piece of paper and a pen, and instead of saying, how was your day? Because

418
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normally how was your day? Good. Rubbish question, rubbish response. How was your weekend?

419
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Good. Rubbish question, rubbish response. Change the narrative. Make it fun.

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So give everyone a pen and paper, say you've got a minute and a half.

421
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Think back over the last 7 days, what is one thing that's made you

422
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smile? Go. You're not allowed to write about it. You're not allowed to share it.

423
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You've gotta draw it. And then at the end of the one and a half

424
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minutes, no one's a good drawer in 1 half minutes, and that's key behind it.

425
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So the drawing's average, which allows you to be a little bit vulnerable and share

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something, go a little bit deeper. See what happens. It'll be amazing thing to

427
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do as a family, as a friendship group, or as a workplace. Instead of coming

428
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in on Monday, how was your weekend? Good. Do something different.

429
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Change it. Yep. That creativity and the fun element behind it,

430
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and that because the drawing's absolutely junk, it allows you

431
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to share and have a really nice meaningful conversation. Yeah. And before you share it,

432
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like, seeding, like it is gratitude dictionary. So try and guess

433
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what they've drawn first before they actually share it with you. Right? And any parents

434
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out there, I what I let me tell you this works. I play this

435
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without, with our kids around the dinner table. My kids are 6 and 4,

436
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and they love it. You know what I mean? They absolutely love it. And we've

437
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played it a couple of times and not once has it missed the mark. And

438
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it's a great little activity around the dinner table. It's unreal. I think, you know,

439
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you play at Christmas time, whatever it might be, that's a cool one to do

440
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it at. Yeah. So listeners out there, there's another there's a challenge we'd like to

441
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throw out to you. Literally have a go at playing gratitude Pictionary. Do it tonight

442
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with your family, do it with your mates, whatever it might be, have a laugh

443
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at it, be vulnerable. And it's just a really simple way to bring a little

444
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bit of joy into your, into your relationships, but also get a little bit deeper

445
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with people in a fun and intrusive way. Spot on. And

446
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that leads me into the next little thing I wanna think about before we wrap

447
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up is, relationships and connections are super

448
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important. We know that, but how what's the quality even like, and, and with all

449
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the knowledge we've got now around mental health and well-being and the importance of being

450
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connected, how are you going about

451
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creating a culture within your relationships, especially your friendships,

452
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We're not so much your family, especially friendships, a culture around

453
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being vulnerable and honest with each other. We suck at it early

454
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in life. We suck at it in early twenties. I think it's a bit taboo.

455
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I think we get a bit better at it during our thirties and forties. And

456
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I don't know what's coming in our fifties. But, I think

457
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the earlier you can create a culture within your friendship circle, that

458
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it's cool to be kind, and it's cool to open up to each other

459
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naturally be runnable and, and tell each other what's going on between your ears.

460
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The better off you're gonna be in the better off your friendship circle is gonna

461
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be. But it takes someone to be the catalyst for that. Right? It takes someone's

462
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gotta be brave. Someone's gotta be the catalyst for that and, and kick that off

463
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and, and, you know, be consistent with it and be purposeful with

464
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it. But I promise you that ripple effect will take will take

465
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on and it will flow into the rest of your friends. And

466
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you said before, you know, rubbish question, rubbish answer. Yeah. We're doing all the time.

467
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Hey, mate. How you going? Yeah. Good. Thanks. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

468
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That's great. And really that

469
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person's probably got a, you know, 2 or 3 things in their mind that they

470
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really wanna, you know, express and deal with, but they're bottling it up. So, yeah,

471
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try and work on your questioning with your mates and be vulnerable yourself.

472
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And as Dale said, you know, be the brave one that is the catalyst and,

473
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and create that culture within your friendship groups. That's that it's okay to speak up.

474
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You know what I mean? And I'd hope with all the things in society that

475
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are going on, we know that young people nowadays are doing so much work around

476
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well-being and mental health and well-being. There's so much knowledge being

477
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shared that will get better and better as that as a society.

478
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And I think we are, I know our mateship group is definitely getting better at

479
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it on a personal level. We're definitely opening up a bit more, which is brilliant.

480
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But it's taken us 20 years. You know what I mean? So, yeah, you know,

481
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:09,830
some are quicker than others, you know, but I think, yeah, we're we're more aware

482
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of mental health. We're doing a lot of work on it, but I don't know

483
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if it's improving. I I think the number one thing you need to do, whatever

484
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you're doing with your mateship or your friendship or your family, it's gotta be fun.

485
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Yeah. But that's one thing we had, like a shameless plug that I think we're

486
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a leader that when we come into corporates, when we work with, you know, team

487
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building activities, when we work with schools and school groups and staff,

488
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a huge part of what we do in the, in our workshops is about

489
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connecting people, but getting them to be open up and be vulnerable and

490
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share some things about them as a human being or what they're proud of or

491
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what's happening in their lives. And we do it through play. So it's, we sort

492
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of trick them into doing it right. They're playing games and they're having fun and

493
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all of a sudden they're opening up to each other. So yeah. You know

494
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what I mean? If, if you're, if you're interested in getting us out, hit us

495
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up. We'd love to come and give you a hand with that. Or even if

496
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you're just one of our mates or not a mate at all, and you just

497
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want some ideas, please reach out to us. We would love to share

498
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some, some examples of how we do it and share some strategies.

499
00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:08,710
Yeah, that's what we're all about. 100%. And if you are in either Shepparton,

500
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Parkdale, or Geelong, check out the link. Obviously, episode number

501
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335. Really sort of cheap way to

502
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:20,135
come and, see Paul and myself in action and the number one

503
00:29:20,135 --> 00:29:23,815
emcee in town. Great one to come along to, and it'll just be a

504
00:29:23,815 --> 00:29:26,875
really fun 2 hour evening that you come to. But more importantly,

505
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take away one thing from today. Try gratitude Pictionary

506
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with a group of people, your family, your friends, workplace,

507
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whatever it is, and just see what happens. The worst thing they can

508
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do is you have a laugh. Yeah. You know, and I think that's the best

509
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:44,570
thing about it. Then that's better than going around a circle

510
00:29:44,885 --> 00:29:48,565
and having the limelight on one person where they feel anxious. At least with

511
00:29:48,565 --> 00:29:51,925
a drawing, they can have a laugh about it Yeah. Because it's no good. Yep.

512
00:29:51,925 --> 00:29:54,485
You know? And then you stick them up, and you got something to remember about.

513
00:29:54,485 --> 00:29:57,845
Oh, I remember Paul when you did that one. More importantly, it is your birthday

514
00:29:57,845 --> 00:30:00,840
today, mate. So reach out to Cam, but as I said, don't just do it

515
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,680
on his birthday, but reach out to him. We are in the car today

516
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,440
for a long period of time. Oh. So obviously, you have a little bit of

517
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,040
time. So if you are listening to this, hit pull up for a message. It

518
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is his birthday today, and he's gotta spend 5 hours in the car with me.

519
00:30:14,975 --> 00:30:18,575
So he probably wants a lot of he probably wants a bit of a free,

520
00:30:18,575 --> 00:30:22,095
but, you like. And before I start off, just to all, you know, I'm gonna

521
00:30:22,095 --> 00:30:24,975
start off to all of my friends and family, you know, everyone who I've built

522
00:30:24,975 --> 00:30:28,299
awesome connections with, you know, thank you. I bloody love you. Honestly, I do. And

523
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I hope you feel that. And I'm very, very, very appreciative and grateful for the

524
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amount of care and love that I get back from all of you. I may

525
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never spoken to you for quite some time, may never reached out, may never caught

526
00:30:37,899 --> 00:30:40,380
up, but that's cool. You know what I mean? And just know that I bloody

527
00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:43,985
value the relationships and connections I've made along the way, and I'm

528
00:30:44,105 --> 00:30:47,705
can't wait for more to come. Oh, ditto. I love that, mate. Very well said.

529
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So, yeah, challenge. Reach out to somebody. More importantly, do it in a fun way.

530
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See what happens. And if it you've never done anything like this, then that's

531
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,000
perfect opportunity to start. So second episode of the best of you

532
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,760
series, we've got 2 to go. So strap in. If you're all

533
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,440
loving this, please share it with somebody else. I know this

534
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,794
podcast been around for 8 years, and it's had a lot of ups and downs,

535
00:31:09,794 --> 00:31:12,995
had a lot of guests, and all different things. But more importantly, it's been really

536
00:31:12,995 --> 00:31:16,274
nice to hear people reaching out saying they love the new direction and and the

537
00:31:16,274 --> 00:31:20,034
way we're going with it. So, yeah. If if an episode has resonated with

538
00:31:20,034 --> 00:31:23,880
you, then please share it with somebody else. But, happy birthday, Cambo.

539
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Thank you. Episode 335. Done. Take care.