WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.579 Adilya: I truly enjoy building a tech company. 00:00:02.950 --> 00:00:05.609 I can see that I can make a difference. 00:00:06.019 --> 00:00:07.529 I can see. 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:12.670 That flame in other people's eyes when they hear what I do and that 00:00:12.770 --> 00:00:14.890 they can join me to do the same. 00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:18.640 Because right now there is a whole generation of Gen Z's 00:00:18.889 --> 00:00:20.460 who care about the planet. 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:21.859 They're ready for climate action. 00:00:22.110 --> 00:00:24.940 It's really hard to be sustainable on your own. 00:00:24.979 --> 00:00:26.660 It's a lot easier when you can join the movement. 00:00:27.110 --> 00:00:31.120 Like my favorite example, would you recycle if that wouldn't 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:32.419 been picked up from a curbside? 00:00:33.051 --> 00:00:35.231 It's the volumes. 00:00:35.601 --> 00:00:38.331 When it is picked up biweekly from your curbside. 00:00:38.331 --> 00:00:39.141 I mean, I can do that. 00:00:39.141 --> 00:00:39.891 I can handle this. 00:00:39.891 --> 00:00:40.761 I'm a mom of three. 00:00:40.801 --> 00:00:41.701 I run the startup. 00:00:41.701 --> 00:00:45.361 I still can do this because it's easy for me and same for the clothing. 00:00:45.383 --> 00:00:46.013 Thronmax MDrill One Pro & USB Video: Hey folks. 00:00:46.043 --> 00:00:50.543 And welcome to this latest episode of the small tech podcast. 00:00:50.573 --> 00:00:56.063 I'm Raph co-founder of EC, the digital product studio, building technology 00:00:56.063 --> 00:00:58.073 for a more sustainable future. 00:00:58.373 --> 00:01:01.523 And today we have another wonderful guest. 00:01:01.823 --> 00:01:06.353 I met her originally at Startupfest a few weeks ago, or actually I guess 00:01:06.353 --> 00:01:07.733 a couple of months at this point. 00:01:08.063 --> 00:01:13.223 And I was just really struck by how driven she seemed to be to. 00:01:13.523 --> 00:01:18.713 Reduce textile waste and have a positive impact on the fashion industry. 00:01:19.013 --> 00:01:20.993 We are all about sustainability. 00:01:21.293 --> 00:01:22.643 And environmental impact. 00:01:22.673 --> 00:01:25.493 And I really connected with her vision and her mission. 00:01:25.793 --> 00:01:28.973 I feel like I learned a lot from her about how to think about customer 00:01:28.973 --> 00:01:32.413 discovery and really how to understand the market that you're operating in. 00:01:32.413 --> 00:01:38.523 I also really felt motivated and inspired by her desire to create a better world, 00:01:38.583 --> 00:01:44.463 , for herself, for her kids, for other people, and for the environment and be 00:01:44.463 --> 00:01:48.843 part of a movement that, that really creates a better world for the future. 00:01:49.143 --> 00:01:52.443 I really enjoyed the conversation and I think you will too. 00:01:52.743 --> 00:01:59.553 She is Adilya Dragan founder and CEO of StarLuv, which is a marketplace 00:01:59.583 --> 00:02:05.223 that is AI driven and helps people buy and sell gently used clothing 00:02:05.523 --> 00:02:11.553 and is on a mission to fight the fast fashion garment to landfill pipeline. 00:02:11.853 --> 00:02:12.783 Here's the interview. 00:02:13.233 --> 00:02:13.773 Enjoy it. 00:02:14.300 --> 00:02:15.680 Raphaël: Hey, Adilya, how are ya? 00:02:16.418 --> 00:02:16.668 Adilya: Hi! 00:02:16.668 --> 00:02:18.168 Raphaël: ready to, ready to talk? 00:02:19.266 --> 00:02:19.796 Adilya: How was 00:02:19.796 --> 00:02:20.116 your day? 00:02:20.688 --> 00:02:22.038 Raphaël: Yeah, it's going all right. 00:02:22.038 --> 00:02:24.288 I mean, it's just getting started here in Vancouver. 00:02:24.758 --> 00:02:27.638 Um, but I like to get up nice and early. 00:02:27.698 --> 00:02:28.418 Get started. 00:02:28.418 --> 00:02:29.108 Adilya: What's the time? 00:02:29.108 --> 00:02:29.918 Is it in Vancouver? 00:02:30.160 --> 00:02:33.250 Raphaël: It's, uh, it's eight, 8:15 AM here. 00:02:33.610 --> 00:02:35.970 Adilya: When I was booking, I was surprised. 00:02:36.030 --> 00:02:39.200 Why do you only have time starting midday? 00:02:39.230 --> 00:02:41.640 Because right now it's like one o'clock in Newfoundland. 00:02:41.820 --> 00:02:43.940 We have a bright sunny day. 00:02:44.681 --> 00:02:49.921 Raphaël: Yeah, no, here, uh, here at 8am, and I already had one, uh, one 00:02:49.921 --> 00:02:51.761 meeting before, before recording, 00:02:51.771 --> 00:02:52.041 so. 00:02:52.630 --> 00:02:53.914 Adilya: So, today we're meeting. 00:02:54.715 --> 00:02:57.395 One shore to another shore, east coast to the west 00:02:57.651 --> 00:02:58.491 Raphaël: We are 00:02:58.685 --> 00:02:58.715 Adilya: over 00:02:59.541 --> 00:03:00.941 Raphaël: ocean to ocean, 00:03:00.981 --> 00:03:01.961 coast to coast. 00:03:02.035 --> 00:03:02.485 Adilya: ocean, 00:03:02.485 --> 00:03:03.055 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:03:03.460 --> 00:03:09.720 So I'd love to learn more about you and about StarLuv and about 00:03:09.720 --> 00:03:11.370 everything that you've been doing. 00:03:11.600 --> 00:03:14.730 So I'll just dive right into it. 00:03:15.200 --> 00:03:22.200 I'm curious how, what, situation in your life, in your career led you to say, you 00:03:22.200 --> 00:03:23.880 know what, I'm gonna start this platform. 00:03:23.880 --> 00:03:25.790 I'm gonna create this thing called StarLuv. 00:03:26.190 --> 00:03:29.530 Also, maybe tell us a little bit more about what actually is StarLuv? 00:03:29.530 --> 00:03:34.740 Adilya: Well, Starluv is an AI powered marketplace for clothing resale, 00:03:34.740 --> 00:03:41.200 where environmentally conscious people can buy and sell pre loved clothes. 00:03:41.690 --> 00:03:46.890 But the original idea came to me 10 years ago, I lived in New Orleans, Louisiana 00:03:46.890 --> 00:03:50.310 at that time, and I had a newborn baby, 00:03:51.170 --> 00:03:55.510 so I had my son, and I was feeding him all the time. 00:03:55.510 --> 00:03:59.440 He was hungry all the time, and when you're feeding the baby, 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:02.020 you basically has nothing to do. 00:04:02.050 --> 00:04:05.890 So I was crawling the feed, then it was, it got boring. 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:09.790 Then I got into shopping somehow to entertain myself. 00:04:10.480 --> 00:04:13.480 And at that moment we didn't have much money. 00:04:13.480 --> 00:04:19.120 So it was, and I also wanted to be sustainable, to give clothes another life. 00:04:19.750 --> 00:04:22.280 So I was looking into secondhand clothes. 00:04:22.526 --> 00:04:22.926 Raphaël: yeah, 00:04:22.926 --> 00:04:24.866 I 00:04:25.125 --> 00:04:27.955 Adilya: two platforms at a point, and they were very successful. 00:04:27.955 --> 00:04:34.395 And at the same time, I could see logic problems, and they were so, I 00:04:34.415 --> 00:04:36.285 got tired from them really quickly. 00:04:36.505 --> 00:04:40.785 And my question was, how are they so successful being this bad? 00:04:40.835 --> 00:04:41.985 I can do better. 00:04:42.656 --> 00:04:43.126 Raphaël: love it, 00:04:43.585 --> 00:04:47.285 Adilya: I had another child, then we moved to Canada. 00:04:47.325 --> 00:04:48.685 I had another child. 00:04:48.950 --> 00:04:55.260 And then, then COVID hit and during the COVID, there were so many layoffs and 00:04:55.280 --> 00:05:01.700 people, they moved to their houses from the well lit offices to sometimes messy 00:05:01.700 --> 00:05:07.370 houses and sometimes cluttered houses and people were talking about depression. 00:05:08.235 --> 00:05:15.495 And I had an idea, what if I can help people to declutter their houses, 00:05:15.765 --> 00:05:21.405 starting from their wardrobes and to generate another stream of revenue because 00:05:21.435 --> 00:05:23.875 like of the layoffs to help somehow. 00:05:24.325 --> 00:05:28.105 And I thought if I can help at least one person, then my mission will be complete. 00:05:28.975 --> 00:05:34.055 So that's how I started StarLuv and we basically started working on it. 00:05:34.645 --> 00:05:40.065 Three years ago, like the development and everything and I made a huge mistake. 00:05:40.425 --> 00:05:44.295 I started with a product, like I started building, okay, I know what I'm doing. 00:05:44.325 --> 00:05:46.375 I'm going to build this platform. 00:05:46.375 --> 00:05:47.335 It's going to be amazing. 00:05:47.335 --> 00:05:48.915 Everyone is going to love it. 00:05:49.836 --> 00:05:50.316 Raphaël: yep, 00:05:51.105 --> 00:05:55.765 Adilya: two years later, I ran out of money, I was devastated, and 00:05:55.765 --> 00:06:00.675 then I went into the ecosystem and I was told, Adilya, you know, boy, 00:06:00.675 --> 00:06:04.795 you need to go and do the discovery, the customer discovery interviews. 00:06:04.885 --> 00:06:05.465 What is that? 00:06:06.125 --> 00:06:10.335 Like do I need to go out there and to talk to random people about what they like? 00:06:10.865 --> 00:06:15.145 hahaha And moreover, it's, people lie. 00:06:15.945 --> 00:06:18.715 if you ask them, like, do you like this? 00:06:18.795 --> 00:06:19.845 They want to be polite. 00:06:19.865 --> 00:06:24.475 They will say yes, and then you will go and build what they say yes to, 00:06:24.475 --> 00:06:26.125 and actually they didn't like it. 00:06:26.211 --> 00:06:26.611 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:06:27.535 --> 00:06:32.835 Adilya: So, I learned the hard way how to learn and how to 00:06:32.835 --> 00:06:34.325 find out what people actually 00:06:34.325 --> 00:06:34.835 Raphaël: want. 00:06:34.835 --> 00:06:35.175 Yeah. 00:06:35.298 --> 00:06:37.638 Adilya: How do they solve their current problem? 00:06:38.008 --> 00:06:39.358 How can I make it better? 00:06:39.878 --> 00:06:43.878 What can be done if they had a magic wand and they can just 00:06:43.878 --> 00:06:46.498 wave it and wow, magic happened. 00:06:46.508 --> 00:06:49.498 They have a perfect product for them that solves all their problems. 00:06:49.498 --> 00:06:53.678 Yes, 10 years later, I come here where I am. 00:06:54.435 --> 00:06:54.885 Raphaël: Yep. 00:06:55.765 --> 00:06:59.395 What, what was actually with, with specifically like that, like, what 00:06:59.395 --> 00:07:01.195 did you find was the most helpful? 00:07:01.195 --> 00:07:04.125 Like, how do you get the right information out of people? 00:07:04.125 --> 00:07:07.255 Adilya: I was I'll give you an example. 00:07:07.255 --> 00:07:10.325 You basically ask the why questions. 00:07:11.365 --> 00:07:14.705 For example, What was your last purchase? 00:07:14.986 --> 00:07:15.466 Raphaël: Okay. 00:07:16.665 --> 00:07:17.865 Adilya: What was your last purchase? 00:07:18.526 --> 00:07:19.006 Raphaël: Oh, me? 00:07:19.356 --> 00:07:19.696 Okay. 00:07:20.295 --> 00:07:21.515 Adilya: or any products. 00:07:21.565 --> 00:07:22.665 Raphaël: like, are we going through it right 00:07:22.665 --> 00:07:22.865 now? 00:07:22.865 --> 00:07:23.565 Like, so, okay. 00:07:23.785 --> 00:07:24.125 Okay. 00:07:24.135 --> 00:07:24.455 For me, 00:07:24.523 --> 00:07:24.553 Adilya: go. 00:07:24.553 --> 00:07:25.293 Go for it. 00:07:25.685 --> 00:07:27.845 Raphaël: my last purchase, any kind of purchase? 00:07:27.845 --> 00:07:30.725 Adilya: Oh, maybe like business related or any electronics, 00:07:30.825 --> 00:07:32.365 basically like to do the job. 00:07:32.411 --> 00:07:34.131 Raphaël: Okay, electronics. 00:07:34.131 --> 00:07:37.951 I bought, this is a while ago, but I bought a camera. 00:07:38.061 --> 00:07:40.081 I have this camera that I'm using right now. 00:07:40.331 --> 00:07:41.251 Yeah, yeah. 00:07:41.255 --> 00:07:42.865 Adilya: So why did you buy this camera? 00:07:42.865 --> 00:07:44.235 What did you want it to achieve? 00:07:44.285 --> 00:07:45.975 What kind of work did you want to do? 00:07:46.051 --> 00:07:50.211 Raphaël: The other camera that I was using was, frustrating me. 00:07:50.291 --> 00:07:55.071 There were too many, like, issues with the way that it was connecting to my machine 00:07:55.091 --> 00:08:00.511 Adilya: so the issues were more painful than the money you were 00:08:00.841 --> 00:08:02.521 about to spend on a new camera. 00:08:02.521 --> 00:08:03.971 And what did you want to do with your 00:08:03.971 --> 00:08:04.401 camera? 00:08:04.401 --> 00:08:07.131 Raphaël: Uh, with my old camera or my new camera? 00:08:08.145 --> 00:08:08.995 Adilya: Your new camera? 00:08:09.811 --> 00:08:10.361 Raphaël: Oh, okay. 00:08:10.521 --> 00:08:13.781 I wanted to record podcasts and videos and stuff like that. 00:08:13.821 --> 00:08:14.071 Yeah. 00:08:14.176 --> 00:08:15.366 Adilya: Like why, um, 00:08:15.366 --> 00:08:19.291 Raphaël: wait, are you asking me why we're doing this podcast? 00:08:19.291 --> 00:08:24.266 Um, yeah I wanted to do this podcast, I've wanted to create 00:08:24.266 --> 00:08:28.246 sort of content around how to build tech products for, for a long time. 00:08:28.246 --> 00:08:31.451 And I started doing some videos about a year and a half, two years 00:08:31.451 --> 00:08:36.871 ago and I feel like it was a good way to tell the world what I can do. 00:08:36.871 --> 00:08:40.661 And then eventually I realized it was a good way to sort of connect with other 00:08:40.661 --> 00:08:44.321 people also in this space and tell stories about what we're all doing, 00:08:44.321 --> 00:08:46.691 building uh, building tech products. 00:08:46.691 --> 00:08:48.341 So, yeah, I guess that's why, 00:08:48.341 --> 00:08:48.651 Adilya: Okay. 00:08:48.721 --> 00:08:55.711 So you decided to switch the camera because you wanted to build the product. 00:08:55.931 --> 00:09:02.361 Can I make your life any, how better so you can do your podcast better? 00:09:02.621 --> 00:09:04.611 Any new tech you want to get 00:09:04.611 --> 00:09:09.231 Raphaël: uh, if someone could at this point, I think it's a pretty good setup. 00:09:09.231 --> 00:09:13.551 If someone could make sure that I never had a audio, audio 00:09:13.551 --> 00:09:18.496 connection issues and stuff like that again, that would be amazing. 00:09:21.006 --> 00:09:23.096 . But yeah, other than that, I think it's pretty good. 00:09:23.106 --> 00:09:27.506 But if someone could build a platform or tooling or hardware that like everyone 00:09:27.506 --> 00:09:32.826 could just have like consistent high quality video audio, that would be great. 00:09:33.476 --> 00:09:33.926 I would love 00:09:34.160 --> 00:09:34.980 Adilya: like a business model 00:09:35.206 --> 00:09:35.856 Raphaël: It does. 00:09:35.906 --> 00:09:36.566 All right. 00:09:37.136 --> 00:09:37.646 All right. 00:09:37.766 --> 00:09:38.176 Is it 00:09:38.380 --> 00:09:39.260 Adilya: business opportunity, yeah, 00:09:39.516 --> 00:09:40.156 Raphaël: for a pivot? 00:09:40.157 --> 00:09:43.276 Totally. 00:09:43.343 --> 00:09:49.670 Adilya: that was like a, mostly a joke, but you felt the idea, you keep talking 00:09:49.690 --> 00:09:55.240 to the people and try to find where their pain is, what annoys them the most, 00:09:55.290 --> 00:09:59.320 so it annoys them that much so they're ready to switch to a different product. 00:09:59.470 --> 00:10:01.550 They're ready to change their habit. 00:10:01.550 --> 00:10:02.020 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:10:02.540 --> 00:10:04.350 That makes, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 00:10:04.380 --> 00:10:09.710 It's funny, like, yeah, it was just kind of a fun exercise, but also, yeah, you 00:10:09.710 --> 00:10:15.020 have me also thinking about, all right, like, why and how does, does this podcast 00:10:15.030 --> 00:10:19.500 come together and, and is there, now I'm wondering, are there tools that could make 00:10:19.500 --> 00:10:21.540 my life easier with, all of the recording? 00:10:21.603 --> 00:10:24.113 Adilya: the days, people only shopped in person. 00:10:24.433 --> 00:10:28.503 They said, I want to go through the racks because I want to feel the material. 00:10:28.503 --> 00:10:29.813 I want to try it on. 00:10:30.763 --> 00:10:33.523 But today they want to save that time more. 00:10:33.583 --> 00:10:35.803 They don't want to go to the mall. 00:10:35.803 --> 00:10:38.613 They don't want to put that effort actually going through the racks. 00:10:38.613 --> 00:10:40.813 It's a lot easier just to swipe everything. 00:10:41.878 --> 00:10:46.058 When stuff is delivered to your door, you can try it on and send it back in at your 00:10:46.058 --> 00:10:48.488 house when you're in the perfect mood for 00:10:48.770 --> 00:10:49.500 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:10:50.090 --> 00:10:55.330 So with that, actually, I'm curious, because I guess I'm not your target 00:10:55.330 --> 00:11:00.580 customer because I love touching the things before I buy them. 00:11:00.680 --> 00:11:03.650 I occasionally, like actually this shirt I bought without touching it, 00:11:03.650 --> 00:11:08.750 but mostly I just love to be in a store and like see the thing and hold it 00:11:09.150 --> 00:11:09.950 Adilya: they're all different. 00:11:10.020 --> 00:11:10.430 That's right. 00:11:10.476 --> 00:11:13.256 Raphaël: yeah, I guess even, like, the logistics of, like, 00:11:13.256 --> 00:11:15.646 making online clothes work? 00:11:15.646 --> 00:11:20.386 I guess you have that segment who wants to just be able to see it, visualize it 00:11:20.941 --> 00:11:24.991 and have access to it without the hassle of going to see if you can find a store 00:11:24.991 --> 00:11:27.811 that has the thing that you want in stock. 00:11:27.811 --> 00:11:29.531 And is that part of 00:11:29.550 --> 00:11:29.710 Adilya: yeah, 00:11:29.710 --> 00:11:34.390 most of the, most of the retails have online presence so you can 00:11:34.430 --> 00:11:37.180 either order online or be in person. 00:11:37.420 --> 00:11:43.070 Like I always order online and I check the ingredients, what it's made of 00:11:43.340 --> 00:11:45.260 so I kind of know how it will feel. 00:11:46.266 --> 00:11:47.436 Raphaël: Oh, that makes sense. 00:11:47.460 --> 00:11:50.140 Adilya: Yeah, I always check their materials. 00:11:50.190 --> 00:11:53.670 Raphaël: Do you find that it's like, essentially on some level you're competing 00:11:53.740 --> 00:11:55.480 with these massive retailers, right? 00:11:55.510 --> 00:11:56.320 Or are you not? 00:11:56.400 --> 00:11:56.840 I don't know. 00:11:57.040 --> 00:11:58.850 Is that a thing that freaks you out? 00:11:58.923 --> 00:12:03.523 Adilya: more, I'm trying to upend the fashion industry market. 00:12:04.233 --> 00:12:10.653 So right now, it's about 400, 000 in the fast fashion industry Market. 00:12:10.653 --> 00:12:15.393 And that 20 percent is contributed to the industrial water pollution. 00:12:15.393 --> 00:12:20.363 They use synthetic fibers like polyester, which is not biodegradable, 00:12:20.753 --> 00:12:25.313 and it takes years to break down, and they release toxic chemicals in 00:12:25.313 --> 00:12:31.183 the process and people who work for them, they live in poverty, and they 00:12:31.183 --> 00:12:36.763 actually are surrounded with all those toxins, and I feel this is not right. 00:12:37.183 --> 00:12:45.663 I know we can do better, and I'm encouraging people to give clothes 00:12:45.703 --> 00:12:48.803 another, a second life, to upcycle, 00:12:49.768 --> 00:12:55.508 I even have a challenge, how can you restyle and upcycle, vintage garment? 00:12:56.058 --> 00:13:01.438 Some people, they like vintage, some do not, and they, I saw beautiful 00:13:01.438 --> 00:13:08.878 examples how they transferred some outdated outfit to a super fashion. 00:13:09.268 --> 00:13:10.558 And fashion isn't bad. 00:13:10.768 --> 00:13:12.808 The bad is that, it's not sustainable 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:13.650 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:13:14.078 --> 00:13:17.218 Adilya: So I like to look pretty, I like to look stylish. 00:13:17.658 --> 00:13:22.448 I don't have to, like, wear everyday same clothes and be boring. 00:13:22.508 --> 00:13:22.838 It's not 00:13:22.838 --> 00:13:23.478 about that. 00:13:23.608 --> 00:13:25.928 It's about wearing items, actually. 00:13:25.938 --> 00:13:29.908 Raphaël: So one of the things, like when we first, so we met at Startupfest a 00:13:29.928 --> 00:13:33.568 few weeks ago or like a couple months ago at this point, and I was just really 00:13:33.568 --> 00:13:40.048 excited to talk to you because you have this like impact driven, like vibe about 00:13:40.068 --> 00:13:43.018 you like you seem really committed to, 00:13:44.097 --> 00:13:45.337 Adilya: you know, you know why 00:13:45.968 --> 00:13:46.658 Raphaël: well, why? 00:13:46.707 --> 00:13:46.867 Adilya: to it? 00:13:48.417 --> 00:13:54.977 Because right now in Chile in Chile desert, there is a mountain of apparel 00:13:54.977 --> 00:13:57.587 waste that is now visible from space. 00:13:57.963 --> 00:13:58.623 Raphaël: obscene. 00:13:58.623 --> 00:14:04.253 Adilya: The waste of clothes is comparable to the size of the city 00:14:05.030 --> 00:14:07.470 Raphaël: That's, that's disturbing. 00:14:07.933 --> 00:14:14.233 Adilya: yeah, we are talking to you and out there in South America there is such 00:14:14.233 --> 00:14:20.803 a mountain it's growing because every year 90 million tons of apparel end up 00:14:20.803 --> 00:14:25.453 in the landfill and that this number is projected to double over the next five 00:14:25.453 --> 00:14:30.913 years if we don't make a difference, and I'm building a movement to stop that 00:14:30.913 --> 00:14:36.463 I'm on a mission to fight the waste and I encourage responsible consumption. 00:14:36.470 --> 00:14:43.930 And at Starluv, people can resell items and here I want to dive to the persona. 00:14:44.017 --> 00:14:44.487 Raphaël: Okay. 00:14:45.295 --> 00:14:49.375 Adilya: Because we're all drops in the ocean, we all make decisions, and this led 00:14:49.375 --> 00:14:55.435 to a bigger, right now, to a massive waste every time when you think, okay, this is 00:14:55.435 --> 00:15:00.815 a t shirt, and I want to sell it, but do I want to spend time listing the item? 00:15:01.375 --> 00:15:03.145 What do I put in that description? 00:15:03.145 --> 00:15:04.495 Okay, maybe I'm too lazy. 00:15:04.495 --> 00:15:05.675 I can't just throw it away. 00:15:05.735 --> 00:15:06.565 Nobody will know. 00:15:06.925 --> 00:15:07.505 That's fine. 00:15:07.505 --> 00:15:12.995 But And at StarLuv, we decided, okay, we're going to step in 00:15:13.045 --> 00:15:16.665 here and put our AI to work. 00:15:16.735 --> 00:15:18.185 And we asked for the picture. 00:15:18.315 --> 00:15:22.795 So if you can take a picture of this T shirt and upload to the website, 00:15:22.835 --> 00:15:27.405 we will analyze it and we'll generate the title and the detailed description 00:15:27.445 --> 00:15:31.085 and pick up the category and the color and the size and the brand 00:15:31.085 --> 00:15:32.365 so you don't have to do the job. 00:15:32.535 --> 00:15:34.525 So you provide the picture and we do the rest. 00:15:34.695 --> 00:15:39.165 So it is five times faster to live on StarLuv than on anywhere else. 00:15:39.442 --> 00:15:40.032 Raphaël: Awesome. 00:15:40.695 --> 00:15:44.005 Adilya: And actually, a little sneak peek, eBay will be using 00:15:44.015 --> 00:15:45.925 this technology in the future. 00:15:46.405 --> 00:15:48.615 I know they're developing this already and we already have it. 00:15:48.742 --> 00:15:49.302 Raphaël: Aha. 00:15:51.342 --> 00:15:56.042 So wait, are you going to be like, are you selling this to eBay or is eBay, 00:15:56.695 --> 00:15:58.745 Adilya: No, eBay is trying to build the same 00:15:59.022 --> 00:15:59.582 Raphaël: okay. 00:15:59.842 --> 00:16:02.202 That's yeah, actually, do you want to talk about that? 00:16:02.232 --> 00:16:03.382 How do you feel about that? 00:16:04.205 --> 00:16:05.425 Adilya: I feel very proud. 00:16:05.985 --> 00:16:09.625 I'm very proud of my team because they're very knowledgeable. 00:16:09.925 --> 00:16:14.525 They're great engineers they're leaders in AI and they're simply amazing. 00:16:14.975 --> 00:16:17.815 They also are passionate about stopping the 00:16:17.815 --> 00:16:18.275 Raphaël: waste. 00:16:18.275 --> 00:16:18.645 Yeah. 00:16:19.255 --> 00:16:25.125 Adilya: and they, they do start off not for the money, but for the bigger idea and 00:16:25.135 --> 00:16:27.305 the impact that we all can bring together 00:16:27.305 --> 00:16:27.655 yeah. 00:16:27.692 --> 00:16:28.322 Raphaël: I love it. 00:16:29.030 --> 00:16:33.390 Adilya: Yeah, especially I'm proud that we did it a year ago already by using 00:16:33.390 --> 00:16:36.030 it while eBay only thinking about it. 00:16:36.182 --> 00:16:36.562 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:16:36.862 --> 00:16:37.122 That's 00:16:37.190 --> 00:16:38.950 Adilya: That's also validates my idea, 00:16:39.172 --> 00:16:39.782 Raphaël: yeah. 00:16:40.352 --> 00:16:41.422 That's really cool. 00:16:41.792 --> 00:16:44.982 Um, actually, do you want to talk a little bit about like, how, like, what, 00:16:45.062 --> 00:16:49.842 what's it like to build an AI like that, an AI AI driven system like that? 00:16:49.842 --> 00:16:53.412 Adilya: I can feel limitless because I can do whatever I want. 00:16:53.432 --> 00:16:57.902 It's all in my mind if I can expand it and to look further 00:16:57.932 --> 00:17:00.092 like what actually bothers people. 00:17:00.552 --> 00:17:05.487 And moreover, I can see that in the future we'll have AI built in almost everything 00:17:05.487 --> 00:17:10.647 because it's really does the job really well and it does it better day by day. 00:17:10.663 --> 00:17:11.343 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:17:12.407 --> 00:17:16.037 Adilya: And why not to use the technology to simplify our lives and 00:17:16.037 --> 00:17:19.247 focus on what's more important to us. 00:17:19.457 --> 00:17:24.107 For example, like back to the clothes, if I wanna sell like say 30 outfits, 00:17:24.107 --> 00:17:28.277 so I did the declutering, I have a pile of clothes 30 items, so to 00:17:28.277 --> 00:17:31.432 list them on StarLuv it will take 20 00:17:31.843 --> 00:17:32.153 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:17:32.852 --> 00:17:36.732 Adilya: but on our competitors it will take two and a half hours. 00:17:37.462 --> 00:17:42.562 I would use those two hours just to read with my kids, to dance with 00:17:42.562 --> 00:17:45.152 them, to sing, to eat, to take a walk. 00:17:46.057 --> 00:17:51.792 walk And I can see that if we can Keep saving our time and 00:17:51.792 --> 00:17:54.182 do what actually brings us joy. 00:17:54.182 --> 00:17:58.512 By the way, yesterday I was a judge at the pitch competition, and one of 00:17:58.522 --> 00:18:01.312 the guys, he started his speech with. 00:18:01.312 --> 00:18:04.902 Do you know Warren Buffet and the amount of money that he has? 00:18:04.902 --> 00:18:07.642 Also, did you know that he is 93 years old? 00:18:08.122 --> 00:18:11.142 Would you exchange his money to your life? 00:18:11.142 --> 00:18:12.052 Like, no, 00:18:12.113 --> 00:18:12.533 Raphaël: yep, 00:18:13.242 --> 00:18:13.412 Adilya: no, 00:18:13.453 --> 00:18:14.723 Raphaël: yeah, yeah, 00:18:14.972 --> 00:18:16.402 Adilya: but you keep your money. 00:18:16.892 --> 00:18:17.452 I'm good. 00:18:17.452 --> 00:18:20.732 So time is the most important, value that we have I believe? 00:18:21.143 --> 00:18:21.473 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:18:21.492 --> 00:18:21.802 Adilya: Yeah. 00:18:22.623 --> 00:18:23.343 Raphaël: I agree. 00:18:23.392 --> 00:18:24.372 Adilya: we can't save it 00:18:24.372 --> 00:18:24.752 Raphaël: Yep. 00:18:24.772 --> 00:18:26.282 Adilya: Yeah, that's how I feel about it. 00:18:26.512 --> 00:18:31.052 Like I technically saving other people's lives in the area. 00:18:32.093 --> 00:18:33.673 Raphaël: That makes a lot of sense to me. 00:18:33.723 --> 00:18:34.993 I like that way of thinking. 00:18:35.043 --> 00:18:38.893 It's funny, like, when you were asking about the camera I feel like one of 00:18:38.893 --> 00:18:44.388 the things that comes, the, the actual issue, Is the time wasted, right? 00:18:44.408 --> 00:18:47.988 Like I was thinking about, you know, I have to fiddle like with my 00:18:47.988 --> 00:18:51.858 other camera and I have to use this software that always like breaks down 00:18:51.858 --> 00:18:55.778 or doesn't work properly and it gets fiddly and then I'm just wasting time. 00:18:55.838 --> 00:19:01.928 I've lost an hour trying to like, and yeah, those, it's weird how sometimes 00:19:01.928 --> 00:19:05.888 those efficiency gains tend to be like framed in a very sort of, you know, 00:19:06.258 --> 00:19:09.748 financial terms or in productivity terms. 00:19:09.748 --> 00:19:14.938 But when it comes down to it, like it's a human who's gaining that 00:19:14.938 --> 00:19:17.608 time it's a person who can, yeah. 00:19:17.608 --> 00:19:19.778 Like go play with their kids or yeah. 00:19:19.828 --> 00:19:24.508 Adilya: Yeah and people will say that the product will fly if it saves the 00:19:24.508 --> 00:19:31.498 time or, and saves the money and, or the risk stuff three components, 00:19:32.468 --> 00:19:32.928 better if 00:19:32.948 --> 00:19:34.558 all three, but it's super 00:19:34.558 --> 00:19:35.008 Raphaël: rare 00:19:35.008 --> 00:19:38.298 yeah is it your first time building stuff in tech? 00:19:38.299 --> 00:19:38.678 Yeah. 00:19:38.678 --> 00:19:39.228 Adilya: Yeah. 00:19:39.748 --> 00:19:43.858 I was talking to my husband, he calls me over optimistic person. 00:19:45.295 --> 00:19:45.655 Raphaël: Yeah, 00:19:45.843 --> 00:19:51.083 Adilya: Because to start from this complicated tech product, you can be 00:19:51.103 --> 00:19:56.933 over ambitious or truly believe in the outcome, was the case, is still the case. 00:19:56.933 --> 00:19:59.763 But I truly enjoy building a tech company. 00:20:00.133 --> 00:20:02.793 I can see that I can make a difference. 00:20:03.203 --> 00:20:04.713 I can see. 00:20:05.343 --> 00:20:09.853 That flame in other people's eyes when they hear what I do and that 00:20:09.953 --> 00:20:12.073 they can join me to do the same. 00:20:12.463 --> 00:20:15.823 Because right now there is a whole generation of Gen Z's 00:20:16.073 --> 00:20:17.643 who care about the planet. 00:20:17.663 --> 00:20:19.043 They're ready for climate action. 00:20:19.293 --> 00:20:22.123 It's really hard to be sustainable on your own. 00:20:22.163 --> 00:20:23.843 It's a lot easier when you can join the movement. 00:20:24.293 --> 00:20:28.303 Like my favorite example, would you recycle if that wouldn't 00:20:28.303 --> 00:20:29.603 been picked up from a curbside? 00:20:30.285 --> 00:20:30.875 Raphaël: yeah, 00:20:31.523 --> 00:20:35.773 Adilya: You don't have to answer this question, but sometimes it's like 00:20:35.913 --> 00:20:40.143 easier to put it in the trash rather to collect the recycle and then to spend 00:20:40.143 --> 00:20:44.723 your time to drive somewhere to the dump and to bring your recyclables. 00:20:44.863 --> 00:20:47.083 Some people will do that still but 00:20:47.083 --> 00:20:49.263 it's the volumes. 00:20:49.633 --> 00:20:52.363 When it is picked up biweekly from your curbside. 00:20:52.363 --> 00:20:53.173 I mean, I can do that. 00:20:53.173 --> 00:20:53.923 I can handle this. 00:20:53.923 --> 00:20:54.793 I'm a mom of three. 00:20:54.833 --> 00:20:55.733 I run the startup. 00:20:55.733 --> 00:20:59.393 I still can do this because it's easy for me and same for the clothing. 00:20:59.415 --> 00:20:59.845 Raphaël: huh. 00:21:00.353 --> 00:21:03.683 Adilya: If it's easy for you, you might opt it in and do 00:21:03.683 --> 00:21:04.043 that. 00:21:04.043 --> 00:21:04.403 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:21:04.782 --> 00:21:05.112 Adilya: Yeah. 00:21:05.473 --> 00:21:07.683 Raphaël: that makes, yeah, that makes sense to me. 00:21:07.783 --> 00:21:08.773 I'm curious. 00:21:09.043 --> 00:21:13.353 When you first decided, okay, I'm going to actually go in and build this platform, 00:21:13.723 --> 00:21:15.453 and I'm going to build a tech product. 00:21:15.453 --> 00:21:16.983 What was the most surprising thing? 00:21:16.983 --> 00:21:21.603 What was the thing that you're like, oh this is something I have to do now 00:21:21.613 --> 00:21:23.443 if I'm going to build a tech platform. 00:21:23.443 --> 00:21:28.093 Adilya: Um, that was never the question, but I remember how I started. 00:21:28.513 --> 00:21:33.863 I think the most difficult thing was to file the incorporation. 00:21:34.265 --> 00:21:34.475 Raphaël: Okay. 00:21:34.475 --> 00:21:39.205 Yeah. 00:21:39.623 --> 00:21:40.843 Adilya: It took me 30 minutes. 00:21:40.843 --> 00:21:44.043 30 minutes to fill out the form and to get the documents, 00:21:44.045 --> 00:21:44.515 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:21:45.093 --> 00:21:46.053 Adilya: get the papers done. 00:21:46.053 --> 00:21:49.123 And it took me, I was really nervous when I opened that 00:21:49.503 --> 00:21:52.003 website to fill out everything. 00:21:53.033 --> 00:21:54.543 I mean, I swear that was the hardest thing. 00:21:54.553 --> 00:21:54.573 Yeah. 00:21:56.955 --> 00:21:57.505 Raphaël: Yep. 00:21:58.298 --> 00:22:04.528 Adilya: And I also wanted to add something about the Gen Zs, how truly care they are. 00:22:04.578 --> 00:22:08.358 They recently finished schools, they're late teens, early twenties, 00:22:09.008 --> 00:22:13.818 and they've been taught at school to now care about the planet. 00:22:13.818 --> 00:22:19.198 And I can see that also in my son, even though he's younger, he's 10. 00:22:19.738 --> 00:22:22.668 Let's say we take a hike, take a trail. 00:22:22.668 --> 00:22:25.878 And if he can see garbage on the trail, he will pick it up. 00:22:26.098 --> 00:22:27.288 Like for me, that's yuki. 00:22:27.448 --> 00:22:31.478 I mean, like, if I'm not wearing gloves, I would just, maybe not the best of me, 00:22:31.478 --> 00:22:34.578 but I will walk by, but he doesn't care. 00:22:34.628 --> 00:22:36.988 He will pick it up and put it, in the trash can. 00:22:37.338 --> 00:22:41.208 I'm very proud of him because like, and this is amazing. 00:22:41.258 --> 00:22:43.858 And I love it that it is taught at schools. 00:22:44.438 --> 00:22:46.058 So I believe in the future. 00:22:46.068 --> 00:22:47.368 Like we have a bright future. 00:22:48.345 --> 00:22:49.485 Raphaël: Yeah, I agree. 00:22:49.545 --> 00:22:54.645 I feel like you can sort of feel the shift in thinking and it is 00:22:54.645 --> 00:22:58.025 really encouraging and I feel like I still have moments sometimes where 00:22:58.025 --> 00:23:00.525 I'm like, oh what are we doing? 00:23:00.535 --> 00:23:04.645 But then you see like this shift and it feels like, okay, no, 00:23:04.665 --> 00:23:06.485 like we can get through this. 00:23:06.545 --> 00:23:06.835 Yeah. 00:23:07.128 --> 00:23:07.418 Adilya: Yeah. 00:23:07.808 --> 00:23:08.018 A hundred percent. 00:23:08.485 --> 00:23:11.025 Raphaël: Yeah um how old is your eldest? 00:23:11.025 --> 00:23:12.155 Adilya: My odyssey is 10. 00:23:12.355 --> 00:23:16.025 I have three, have five, seven and 10 year old boys. 00:23:16.292 --> 00:23:16.842 Raphaël: All right. 00:23:17.182 --> 00:23:17.612 Cool. 00:23:18.042 --> 00:23:18.792 Um, 00:23:18.792 --> 00:23:22.562 Adilya: So I'm also a, otherwise like I'm founder and CEO of a startup. 00:23:22.562 --> 00:23:28.622 I'm also a hockey mom, a soccer mom, like a driver, a cooker, a psychologist. 00:23:30.098 --> 00:23:30.278 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:23:30.278 --> 00:23:32.588 So you need those extra hours that you get back using 00:23:32.588 --> 00:23:33.058 StarLuv 00:23:33.302 --> 00:23:33.702 Adilya: Oh yes. 00:23:33.712 --> 00:23:34.512 A hundred percent. 00:23:35.067 --> 00:23:37.337 And yeah, I'll take it. 00:23:37.337 --> 00:23:38.757 I'll take any minute I will have. 00:23:39.137 --> 00:23:41.037 And kids are growing. 00:23:41.727 --> 00:23:47.637 My oldest one, he doesn't want to spend as much time as he wanted earlier. 00:23:48.637 --> 00:23:49.647 So, right. 00:23:49.687 --> 00:23:53.587 My middle son, who is seven, if I want to give him a hug in public, 00:23:53.647 --> 00:23:55.647 he'll like hold on mom, at home. 00:23:56.107 --> 00:23:56.347 It's like, 00:23:56.993 --> 00:23:58.008 Raphaël: That's, that's so 00:23:58.013 --> 00:23:58.133 funny. 00:23:58.249 --> 00:24:00.712 Adilya: still can't hug you outside. 00:24:01.282 --> 00:24:05.932 So this is, I wanna spend as much time as possible to them because they're growing 00:24:05.992 --> 00:24:09.352 and one day there will be last time. 00:24:09.352 --> 00:24:14.212 Then when they crawl into my bed at night because there was a nightmare, or 00:24:14.872 --> 00:24:17.122 one day they'll like, leave my house. 00:24:17.437 --> 00:24:18.657 I'm gonna cry here. 00:24:18.657 --> 00:24:18.947 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:24:19.730 --> 00:24:23.565 Adilya: But I would really, I think the time that we have 00:24:23.565 --> 00:24:26.055 is the, has the most value. 00:24:26.252 --> 00:24:29.882 Raphaël: What's a single piece of advice that you would give yourself if you had 00:24:29.902 --> 00:24:32.482 to go back to when you started Starluv? 00:24:33.152 --> 00:24:35.272 What's the, the main thing you would say? 00:24:35.272 --> 00:24:37.232 Hey, keep track of this or, I don't know. 00:24:37.232 --> 00:24:40.692 Adilya: would say don't listen to anyone, trust your gut, 00:24:40.793 --> 00:24:41.143 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:24:41.552 --> 00:24:45.832 Adilya: and go for it, be fearless, because nobody knows that you're 00:24:45.832 --> 00:24:50.882 in fear, not nobody, but nobody thinks that you're in fear, and 00:24:50.932 --> 00:24:53.292 life is too short not to do stuff. 00:24:54.097 --> 00:24:58.847 And just start early because you can fail early and start over again. 00:24:59.013 --> 00:24:59.603 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:24:59.717 --> 00:25:03.137 Adilya: You can learn faster if you start doing stuff. 00:25:03.137 --> 00:25:03.467 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:25:03.467 --> 00:25:07.127 Adilya: Yeah because I remember when I had thoughts about StarLuv 10 00:25:07.127 --> 00:25:09.697 years ago, I thought I am too young. 00:25:09.707 --> 00:25:11.127 Nobody will listen to me. 00:25:11.393 --> 00:25:11.903 Raphaël: Okay. 00:25:11.903 --> 00:25:15.503 Adilya: That was, I mean, I was young I was 24, 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:15.930 Raphaël: hmm. 00:25:16.793 --> 00:25:17.173 Adilya: but. 00:25:19.483 --> 00:25:22.693 I would, if I started when I was 24, then 00:25:22.693 --> 00:25:23.883 where would I be today? 00:25:25.800 --> 00:25:26.220 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:25:26.383 --> 00:25:27.343 Adilya: and Yeah. 00:25:27.963 --> 00:25:29.523 I would definitely start earlier. 00:25:29.943 --> 00:25:33.773 Because some people think they won't have any support. 00:25:33.873 --> 00:25:34.763 This is not true. 00:25:34.763 --> 00:25:35.963 There are lots of support. 00:25:36.393 --> 00:25:42.843 There are ecosystems in like every city, in every province. 00:25:43.598 --> 00:25:45.578 There are lots of funds available. 00:25:45.728 --> 00:25:51.848 There is a lot of different programs available to get to learn you for free. 00:25:52.478 --> 00:25:57.158 And other entrepreneurs for a little bit down further down the road, they 00:25:57.158 --> 00:26:02.448 are happy to provide you with coaching, like with the business coaching, which 00:26:02.808 --> 00:26:08.208 is very important and sometimes it's a lot easier to ask a coach or a mentor 00:26:08.208 --> 00:26:10.953 and to save you time and nerves, 00:26:11.260 --> 00:26:11.480 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:26:11.773 --> 00:26:16.703 Adilya: not, not to overthink, just to go talk out and sometimes the problem 00:26:17.173 --> 00:26:19.633 looks big, but it's actually teeny tiny. 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:20.120 Raphaël: Yep. 00:26:20.580 --> 00:26:21.510 That makes sense. 00:26:21.560 --> 00:26:26.820 Actually with that, so you moved to Newfoundland, how many years ago you said? 00:26:26.830 --> 00:26:27.750 Six, years? 00:26:28.083 --> 00:26:28.613 Adilya: Six, yes. 00:26:28.810 --> 00:26:29.400 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:26:29.790 --> 00:26:32.560 Um, how do you find the ecosystem there? 00:26:32.560 --> 00:26:34.020 Is there anything that you think? 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:39.500 Um, or not just generally how do you find the ecosystem, but are there things 00:26:39.510 --> 00:26:43.920 that you think would have been difficult to do if you were not in Newfoundland? 00:26:43.930 --> 00:26:47.710 Like this particular community was really helpful in serving a particular 00:26:47.710 --> 00:26:52.670 need, or how does it compare to other, like, being in louisiana. 00:26:52.670 --> 00:26:55.670 Adilya: I would compare that not to Louisiana, but to Toronto. 00:26:55.670 --> 00:27:01.150 In Newfoundland, there is a small community and people, they 00:27:01.150 --> 00:27:03.480 are very kind at their hearts. 00:27:03.610 --> 00:27:06.800 They are very supportive, not only in business, but overall. 00:27:06.800 --> 00:27:11.470 They always will come up together to solve one problem. 00:27:11.740 --> 00:27:14.630 And when it comes to the business perspective. 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:18.110 I would call the ecosystem young, and it's very diverse. 00:27:18.277 --> 00:27:18.847 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:27:19.300 --> 00:27:24.010 Adilya: This shows that, um, the climate is very supportive. 00:27:24.127 --> 00:27:24.647 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:27:25.590 --> 00:27:28.910 Adilya: I can feel like I'm like fish in the ocean here. 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:34.870 Know that I can go and talk to more experienced guys, or talk to the Genesys 00:27:34.870 --> 00:27:39.560 Center And I'll get the feedback and I'll get the support or they'll help 00:27:39.730 --> 00:27:46.470 solve my problem or give some advice that actually will help me to push through, 00:27:47.052 --> 00:27:47.532 Raphaël: Awesome. 00:27:47.590 --> 00:27:50.520 Adilya: even like counting like those Montreal Startupfest 00:27:50.542 --> 00:27:51.002 Raphaël: Yeah. 00:27:51.660 --> 00:27:55.100 Adilya: I'm bootstrapping Starluv and, I didn't have enough funds to 00:27:55.210 --> 00:27:56.830 actually travel to the conferences. 00:27:57.300 --> 00:28:02.940 Then I, Spoke about that and they said, Hey, the department of IET, which is 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:07.430 innovation, energy, and technology, they have that fund that they will give 00:28:07.430 --> 00:28:12.840 you money for the conferences and the travels and hotels, everything, if it 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:14.850 will help to your business to develop. 00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:16.570 And that was exactly the case. 00:28:16.780 --> 00:28:17.180 Yeah, 00:28:17.272 --> 00:28:18.222 Raphaël: That's so cool. 00:28:18.672 --> 00:28:20.442 I had no idea there were programs like that. 00:28:20.452 --> 00:28:21.732 That's yeah, that's awesome 00:28:21.752 --> 00:28:26.512 Adilya: And moreover, there are some programs to support women entrepreneurs. 00:28:27.112 --> 00:28:31.142 There is a Leveling It Up program and they are paying for my education. 00:28:31.152 --> 00:28:33.952 Let's say I need to do the marketing. 00:28:34.412 --> 00:28:37.872 And as a founder and CEO, I want to know the basics in every 00:28:38.263 --> 00:28:38.733 Raphaël: mm hmm. 00:28:38.792 --> 00:28:41.222 Adilya: I don't just hire a person that who is smarter than me. 00:28:41.602 --> 00:28:43.512 I want to know something as well. 00:28:43.752 --> 00:28:47.162 So right now Leveling It Up is paying for my education at the 00:28:47.162 --> 00:28:51.132 university, so I learned the marketing so later on, I can make right 00:28:51.142 --> 00:28:52.982 decisions with the professional. 00:28:53.358 --> 00:28:54.038 Raphaël: That's awesome. 00:28:54.088 --> 00:28:54.288 That's 00:28:54.288 --> 00:28:54.968 super cool. 00:28:55.012 --> 00:28:55.742 Adilya: It is awesome. 00:28:56.322 --> 00:28:56.502 And 00:28:56.572 --> 00:28:57.182 Canada is the best. 00:28:58.868 --> 00:28:59.948 Raphaël: I'm happy to hear that. 00:28:59.948 --> 00:29:01.318 Nice cool. 00:29:01.318 --> 00:29:04.108 Well, that's been 32 minutes already. 00:29:04.158 --> 00:29:09.098 So I would like to ask you, since this is the small tech podcast, do 00:29:09.098 --> 00:29:12.948 you have a small tech product or company that you'd like to plug? 00:29:12.948 --> 00:29:18.278 Adilya: Actually, yes when we moved to Newfoundland we have a beautiful 00:29:18.288 --> 00:29:23.358 house, but unfortunately the bill for that house, the electric bill during 00:29:23.358 --> 00:29:25.518 the winter months was very high. 00:29:25.548 --> 00:29:30.668 We paid maybe 500 for the heating and I've heard that there are 00:29:30.668 --> 00:29:35.638 some smart thermostats that can reduce your bills reduce your 00:29:35.638 --> 00:29:37.528 electricity usage and the bills. 00:29:37.528 --> 00:29:39.338 So , their name is Misa. 00:29:39.828 --> 00:29:47.158 I ordered five thermostats from them and actually they saved me so I spent 500 on 00:29:47.158 --> 00:29:48.928 the thermostats and I had my money back. 00:29:49.318 --> 00:29:53.628 For that season, because they saved me 500 over the season, like the winter season, 00:29:54.118 --> 00:29:58.928 that was really awesome, especially to find out later when I received a 00:29:58.928 --> 00:30:03.668 message from them, they wanted to do a discovery, a customer discovery interview 00:30:04.168 --> 00:30:06.728 to find out that they are located in St. 00:30:06.728 --> 00:30:09.033 John's, like where I 00:30:09.145 --> 00:30:10.065 Raphaël: That's so cool. 00:30:10.778 --> 00:30:11.108 Adilya: Yeah. 00:30:11.108 --> 00:30:15.178 And later I found out that they were in the Genesys Incubator. 00:30:15.268 --> 00:30:17.228 That is exactly where I am right now. 00:30:17.928 --> 00:30:21.588 And I'm sitting in the building with them right now. 00:30:21.588 --> 00:30:24.988 So right now they're on the floor four, I'm on the floor three. 00:30:25.038 --> 00:30:26.258 So they're in the same building. 00:30:26.855 --> 00:30:27.785 Raphaël: That's so cool. 00:30:28.488 --> 00:30:28.798 Adilya: Yeah. 00:30:28.798 --> 00:30:34.738 And to know that they were able to build a hardware company within this ecosystem 00:30:34.768 --> 00:30:38.108 and they are driving this ecosystem, they are supporting other entrepreneurs 00:30:38.168 --> 00:30:40.048 to thrive, this is so amazing. 00:30:40.715 --> 00:30:41.015 Raphaël: That's 00:30:41.015 --> 00:30:41.535 awesome. 00:30:41.583 --> 00:30:42.003 Adilya: Check them out. 00:30:42.135 --> 00:30:42.435 Raphaël: Yep. 00:30:42.763 --> 00:30:43.033 Adilya: Yeah. 00:30:43.705 --> 00:30:44.085 Raphaël: Sweet. 00:30:44.115 --> 00:30:44.305 Yeah. 00:30:44.305 --> 00:30:47.235 We'll put their we'll put their link in the show notes, as long 00:30:47.295 --> 00:30:49.135 as well as Starluv, obviously. 00:30:49.215 --> 00:30:50.955 Um, but Yeah. 00:30:51.495 --> 00:30:53.685 Adilya, this was really fun chatting with you. 00:30:53.685 --> 00:30:56.365 I loved learning about your journey. 00:30:56.365 --> 00:31:00.295 I loved learning about all of these things that you've that 00:31:00.295 --> 00:31:01.705 you've shared with me today. 00:31:01.805 --> 00:31:02.615 Yeah, it was really cool. 00:31:02.673 --> 00:31:04.863 Adilya: pleasure to talk to you and to share. 00:31:05.405 --> 00:31:05.975 Raphaël: Awesome. 00:31:06.115 --> 00:31:06.565 Thank you. 00:31:06.985 --> 00:31:07.355 See ya. 00:31:07.663 --> 00:31:07.943 Adilya: Thank you. 00:31:08.373 --> 00:31:09.033 Bye. 00:31:09.230 --> 00:31:11.540 Thronmax MDrill One Pro & USB Video-1: Folks that was my interview 00:31:11.540 --> 00:31:13.210 with Adilya Dragan. 00:31:13.520 --> 00:31:15.810 Founder and CEO of StarLuv. 00:31:16.220 --> 00:31:19.410 I had so much fun chatting with her, it was really inspiring. 00:31:19.410 --> 00:31:23.190 I love the way she thinks about her impact, uh, the way she 00:31:23.220 --> 00:31:28.500 conceives of her product and how it supports the people who use it. 00:31:28.800 --> 00:31:32.550 Uh, I really enjoyed learning about how she thinks about technology. 00:31:32.970 --> 00:31:35.100 It was just a really great conversation. 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