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Hello and welcome to Hello, this is the Doomed Show. I am Richard.

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I am Brad.

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Jeffrey.

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Bye, Simon.

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I'm Mark.

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Folks, it is a masterpiece of boys on parade. We've got the entire co-hosting frickin' what is this? A murder of co-hosts? What is the How do you count when you have lots of yeah, murder?

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Yeah, you're you're gonna murder us.

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Eventually. But this is episode 300. I'm going to drop this beautiful as yet unmade.

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Stinger for episode three hundred, which we'll work on and make it sound delightful with our sexy voices.

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[Music]

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The perfect

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Big Pancake!

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Get ready, get set to get scared ever.

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Chilly back.

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Yeah.

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[Music]

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The molecular.

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And Barbara.

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But this is a big exciting moment for us because we've never been in the same room together. And by room I mean small attic crawl space.

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That's where I am, said

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Kind of big, but we we can all fit. It's fine.

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Oh, just crawl through your sweater that you're wearing.

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I I wore a uh a giallo colored sweater for today.

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Yeah.

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Celebration. Mark, what are you wearing?

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Who are you wearing?

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Mark. Did we lose Mark already?

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I don't know.

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Oh no.

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Mark's like, wait, you're recording this? I'm leaving.

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We're back to our technical difficulties.

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Mark, wherever you are, do not feel bad because I just assumed that I would be the one with major technical.

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Difficulties today.

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There's still time.

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There is still time. I've got nothing to do.

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Do today.

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Uh so yeah, bold, we can start, Brad. You and I can talk a little bit about how the show got started way back in 2011.

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Yep. Only fifteen years.

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So

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Well we'd been friends for a year or two by then.

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And then we were listening to, obsessively listening to the Nashi cast with Rod and Troy.

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Mm.

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Whose idea was this? Do you remember who who started the Doom Show?

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Clicking on it, nothing happens.

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Uh I hear Wall.

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Oh you could hear w can you hear me now?

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Yeah, you're back.

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I am so sorry. Oh my god, this isn't okay.

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Oh my god.

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Um we're gonna edit this into a magnetic.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, okay.

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Yeah, Walt can't leave.

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No, he can't.

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What was your tech guy there?

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Use my testicle uh difficulties.

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Thank you. Well, I'm not cutting that part.

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Yeah.

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So this was my fault, Brad. So I started the Doomed show. I came up with this idea.

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I typed Paul Nashee into the iTunes search bar and was um mis mystified to discover that they were doing a podcast in Nashville, which is an hour away from me, on uh Spanish poor icon Paul Nashee and

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We listened and we sent in some feedback and you're like, Why couldn't we do this? And I'm like, Why couldn't we? We should.

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We stole their format and we did a show.

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That's right. We just took everything in the head and just plopped ourselves in it. Uh

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Gave nothing in return.

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Oh, we gave plenty in return. We're talking about'em now.

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That's right.

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They had fifteen years of promotion from us. But no, you said you said I don't see any reason why we couldn't do this and I'm like, Well, sure, why why not? Right. And And we uh picked the dead or alive for the first one and we were off the races.

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And uh for the record, uh Brad and I tried to do a, oh, let's revisit episode one for a segment and talk about it. And I can't listen to it. We're we're uh it's not so hot.

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No, it's not.

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The voice isn't is an octave higher because I was very nervous. I'm like

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I love them! I love the action cast!

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Sorry to bud in, but I I miss is probably going back some years. I went back to that in some of the early episodes and I get like production values have obviously like, you know, improved and lack of nerves, et cetera. But I think content wise it still holds up and you were out of the gate running.

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Oh thank you. You can be on the podcast.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And uh so at one point Brad was traveling a lot for work. And so

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We spent an entire winter. I'll just go ahead and tell you. I spent an entire winter in Vermont.

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Working outside, the locals are like, You guys are crazy. Why are you here? And I said, good question.

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Yes, I could not record. I could not record for uh four months.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's ridiculous.

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Called in uh called in Jeffrey. Jeffrey and I had been chatting. We we met through our our various blogs.

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It's true.

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The uh the blog that Jeffrey's about to start writing for again.

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Oh yeah, any day now.

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Hey, it's only been since twenty fourteen.

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I think about that blog.

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I don't.

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Great block.

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Yeah, Jeffrey and I did uh a very uh uh not awkward, but just like, you know, getting to know each other episode on uh the House with the Laughing Windows.

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Yeah.

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That was that. And then Jeffrey's like, you know, I have some stuff we could talk about and I pretty much

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Should have known right there, let Jeffrey pick everything we do instead of picking movies that I think he would like and then picking them and then when the movie was bad going, Why did you pick this? He's like, I did not pick this.

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Yes. That's only happened once or twice.

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It's happened more than I'd like to.

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Right.

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There are films out there that are Jeffree films. And and I do not uh I don't venture into that as far as

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Like if I see a Jeffrey film I'm like that would be good for Jeffrey and Richard to do. So

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There's definitely Jeffrey films. Not to say you couldn't be on other other episodes, but uh there's definitely Jeffrey films and I do enjoy I do enjoy them because they're typically esoteric, even more so.

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I think that's a wonderful way to put it. Yeah, I I created like a letterbox list and I just updated it last night with with like all the films we've covered. And you look at all the posters and you're like, Wow, these got a certain flavor to them, don't they?

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Shout out to uh uh our pal Tyler. Tyler's been uh adding every movie we've covered to his own uh doomed show letterbox list as well.

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That's very nice.

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Love it.

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I need to find all you guys on Letterboxd. Not that I've only lritten like one review on it. But um yeah, I do I do like reading the capsule reviews'cause that is it's like a fine art, isn't it? It's writing those things.

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Yeah.

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I still don't have a letterbox. I'm still ru I'm because I just if I get into letterbox, then all of my movie review writing will just go out the window. Like

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I still got big projects with movie reviews I'm writing coming. So uh maybe when I feel like I'm finished writing books about movies, I'll I'll get a a letter blogst.

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Hey there folks, this is uh Editor Richard breaking in here to share something embarrassing and strange.

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I was so nervous about how this monumental episode was going that I left out a very big piece of our history.

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My pal Nafa, my best bud that I worked with and was in lots of bands with, I asked him to join the show.

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And we recorded some epic episodes, some of the funniest episodes, because Nafa was a world class cut-up and anarchic.

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personality that would just wreck every conversation in the best way.

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I could never forget him, but I did forget him in the history of the show. Uh Brad is gonna pick up the slack later and mention Napha. But yes, Napha passed away and uh after a a significant amount of time

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Uh I wanted to invite a new friend along and that is how I asked Simon to be a part of Hello, this is the Doomed Show. Not to replace Nafa but just to get a another unique voice

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That uh turned out to be awesome. So I wanted to make sure that uh I stepped in. Oh, it's cuckoo.

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But I wanted to make sure I stopped in to say whoops, sorry, Nafa, I know you don't care, but I'll never forget you, bud. That's it.

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Um and then I had a a Simon who uh you know we've been chatting for quite a while and I was like

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Well, Simon, do you want to be on the show? And he said, As long as the check clears, I'm in.

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Yeah, that was very timely financially speaking,'cause that was the year of Brexit, I believe.

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I'm sorry.

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And we celebrate it every year since then.

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We have a Brexit party where we uh we leave EU.

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I have no idea I have no joke for that. I'm sorry.

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It was natural to add.

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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Um we love those exotic locations like Preston.

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Ha ha ha.

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I've used it Probably like um national, even international landmark, the Preston bus station.

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That's a joke. It's like this kind of brutalist structure that I think is a listed building now and th there's these like huge they look like um

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massive gutters, but almost ramps. I think they had to put um things on the end of them so people wouldn't drive off them. And uh there's a joke from I think it's either Eric Morcom or uh the other guy uh wise where it says, I can't believe how much it rains in Preston. Look at the size of these fucking gutters.

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You know what I was thought you were gonna talk about? I thought you were gonna talk about that famous raver guy.

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Oh

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That deranged raver gif. So if you ever see a deranged raver, he's bald. I don't think he has eyebrows and he's tripping off of his frickin' shit. Just c completely

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Fucked up and there's like um all the disco lights around him because he's at a rave club. That guy is from Preston.

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He is, yeah, that's um there was a club promo, I think it's called like Bounce to the Ounce or something. It's

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Oh so horrible. But yeah, he he's a legend.

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Richard might be dying at the moment.

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Okay. He's having a hot flush.

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Oh my god.

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Apparently I don't know my own spit.

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But do you know others?

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This brings us to an even more exotic character, a person who I met through his Instagram. Oh my God, give me a second.

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I'm just getting all choked up over Mark.

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As it should be.

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This is how you and our chord you just cry there at the beginning until you finally tell.

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That's that is every episode. Every episode just sobbing. I met Mark through Instagram. I couldn't help but notice that he was in

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drag as Joan Crawford. And I said, this is a cool person. And so I followed him and he had the best pandemic frickin' Instagram of just him cosplaying as different horror ladies.

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And it was incredible. And then when I found out that Mark podcasted, I was like, Hold on, you need to be on the show because you're awesome. Mark, is that how you remember it?

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No, not at all.

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I like how you think I was cosplaying because I just happened to be wearing a Joan Collins outfit, but okay.

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Bad, my bad. I'm sorry.

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kink shame me. Um no, I I I just remember f the podcast, listening to your podcast and then Reading your books and kind of getting up the nerve to talk to you just a little bit because I thought you'd shoot me down because you're like the coolest person in the world.

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Kind of struck up a fresh weird block called a friend, you know, that restraining order but

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Zoom just glitched out so bad and you sounded like this. You went restraining order.

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As it should be. Um, yeah, no, I I just I still can't believe I c really can't believe I'm talking to all of you guys now. This is so weird. It's hard enough to meet one of your idols, let alone a bunch of your idols.

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So this is very um uh humbling for me. But yeah, I I still can't bel I still think this is like a carry prank and I'm just waiting for the inevitable bucket of pig's blood to be poured on.

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As soon as your camera turns on, we're d we're dropping that shit on.

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But yeah, no. So that's so I and then you did reach out and you're like, Would you like to podcast? I'm like, uh yeah. So but I played it really cool. I think I put'em off for like six months. I'm like, I I think other people might want me to podcast too.

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Oh yeah, the audition process was crazy. There were so many people trying to get in.

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Yeah.

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Субтитры сделал DimaTorzok

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But there will be pig's blood.

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That's right.

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Right.

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Uh blood sausage, we'll we'll have a little blood sausage eating festival. Maybe we'll do a vegetarian option as well.

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Well, thank you.

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You're welcome. Now that we've talked about the history of the show, we're going to do a little segment with Cheese the Cat here, who just showed up. Sorry you're you're not watching the video feed, listeners at home, but there is a cheese.

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She's looking good this morning.

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Yeah, she's doing great. She's doing great. She's a pain in the ass. Lover. Um, so we're gonna do a reintroduction. So three questions from each of us, and hopefully we'll, you know, answer the questions.

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And we're gonna start with Mark. So Mark, are you ready?

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I am.

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All right, here we go. So give us Three favorite horror films.

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uh one favorite non-horror film and then please share an interesting fact about yourself. It can be something interesting, ridiculous, or just a lie.

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Okay, so I'll do the fact last. Okay, so my okay, so this was kinda hard because this can change at like any given minute. But I think the three films right now that came to the top of my head when you asked this question.

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The little girl that lives down the lane from nineteen seventy six with Jody Foster?

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Nice.

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I remember seeing it on TV, and it was just such a strange movie. Um, it's got a very small cast, and I think that's when I

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Nope, you glitched out for a second there.

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So I think that that seeing the film

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It really solidified her being a lesbian in my mind. Even though she's not supposed to be, I'm like, this this is a lesbian girl. But it's really creepy. It's got Martin Sheen in it and um what Scott Jacoby. He was a bad Ronald.

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uh place or magician kind of love interest, but it's just so twisted and weird and dark and honestly I kinda wanna be the little girl who lived down the lane for years, but I that sadly never happened.

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And then my next one is from 2018. It's um Gasper Noe's climax.

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Um, it's so it's one of those movies that like I can't get it out of my head and I've seen it years ago. Uh, it's just so disturbing in a weird, weird way. Um

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It's about a I guess a dance troupe uh in an isolated locale that uh does drink the punch of drink punch and it has very uh devastating uh consequences for everyone involved. Uh it's just so

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Visually, I don't know. There's something about Gasper in a way I just find incredibly interesting. But the beginning dance number, I could like watch that like on loop for

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Oh it's so good. Yeah. So good.

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And my last one, and I realize no one is gonna be behind me on this one, but I still will champion this movie till the day I die.

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Children should not play with dead things. Um it's Alan Ormsby and Bob Clark's uh love child.

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Uh it's I don't know. And I remember I was young, and this was also on TV, and I didn't have a name for it, but there's like characters that are gay in the movie, and I'm like, oh, they're kind of like me, but not as

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I I guess not as flamboyant, but I'd like oh, so it's a weird representation I can kind of relate to. And it's a weird zombie thing and the guy's like a kind of a piece of garbage to his girlfriend, but I just there's something about it I absolutely love. I I I could just watch this.

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Every yeah.

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Um, I do Oscar I should though. And now for my movie that's not a horror movie, I went with Hedwig and the Angry Inn.

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Um it's um John Cameron Mitchell's I I don't what would you call it? I he it was a play, it became a film.

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Um

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The music's incredible. Uh it's just

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I don't know. There's something about it that really speaks to me, even though I don't have an angry inch. So those are my four films. And I guess my f my weird fact is I am legit born on Halloween. Halloween is my birthday.

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Spooky guy.

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And I am a treat, not a trick.

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Oh. Yeah. I mean, good.

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Yeah. See, there you go. All right.

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Okay. Awesome. Wow.

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Hey Simon, let's hear the same questions. Three favorite horror films, one favorite non horror film, and of course

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Firstly, just in response to what Mark said, um I saw the little girl lose down the lane for the first time, I think in the past year, and yeah, that kinda knocked me for six in the best way. Uh there's a certain scene I could have done without with Martin Sheen and a um

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certain animal, I'll say not more. Uh but still, you know, it's not gratuitous and was earned and just underlines what a piece of shit he is. And I didn't actually realise, um, or I'd forgotten about uh Jody Foster being a lesbian until recently.

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Uh as much as I'm a fan of a work and have gone back to um stuff recently like uh contact and what's the other one, I watched Little Man tape anyway, let's not go day and Joe Jodie Foster uh Rabbit Hole here.

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But uh yeah, you know, I l I love the film anyway, so it's that's great to hear that represented. And uh also, yeah, fellow October baby like yourself, I was born on the first of October, so uh yeah, that's kind of the month where my heart lives really.

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Um, so yeah, the questions, uh what first? Um so for movies I'm gonna um'cause this is obviously as you sort of alluded to, it's the impossible question really. So I'm gonna

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Cheat a bit and look my just refresh my memory, I think I have these in mind anyway, what are on my uh letterboxed which uh is as uh Memzy Farmer.

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We need some data to have done like one review. Where am I?

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Here we go. Uh so yeah the four films I've gone on here. Uh one is definitely a non horror film, one is kind of borderline, although I would kinda count it as horror adjacent. Uh it's a David Lynch film and even though he's not ostensibly a genre director.

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I mean he does horror better than almost anyone and the one I've got on here might some days of the week be my favourite film of all time is uh Inland Empire. Uh just'cause I'm I am a bit biased because uh this was the one I saw in the cinema.

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while I was a film student, also um the productions side of uh my course I was doing, we used the same camera you shot it on the Sony P D one fifty.

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Uh, so I was very familiar with the sort of look and vibe. Uh it's like to use a very tenuous analogy, as I think I said this to Richard before, um, like if Mulholland Drive was Ulysses, then this is like Finnegan's Wake. There's just like

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just so, you know, layers and layers of shit in this. I understand why it drives some people crazy completely and I respect that. But I just think it's like along with Twin Peaks season three, it's like just it's the culmination of everything he did.

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And it's also kind of ahead of its time for like d um, like a lot of Lynch stuff, it's just half made of liminal space and

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even though it's, you know, early digital stuff, it's like, you know, the whole analogue horror thing. So but anyway I could go on and on about it and I don't want to say any more because I wanna pull Richard kicking and screaming to cover it one day.

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And uh nudge nudge wink wink uh Twin Peaks season three. It's uh ten years ago this year we did the beginning, Richard. Nudge nudge wink wink.

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What?

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Has it been that long?

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It really has. Yeah. Then something we have covered, which is Hao Suit, uh, which when we covered it, uh said to you some days of the week, that is my favourite horror movie again, just a sort of miracle of a film, like just the fact that exists is just

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Time.

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Just can't believe it.

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But won't say any more on that because we've done an episode. Uh, then something else I would very much like us to cover because you know it's Florida and you have to, Richard, uh is Miami Connection.

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Whoever I think bought the film print off eBay and then rescued that and brought it all to us again, a complete gift to humanity. Uh again, I'll say no more because

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I really want to cover it sometime. And finally, um, this is actually weird. I was going back to when I first came on the podcast, which was ten years ago this year, I said to a few of you guys, like the best thing to come out was a really terrible year for me.

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You asked me a bunch of questions about favorite films and lists and you know the order's changed, but a lot of them are still there. But the one when you asked me favorite horror film, which is the impossible question, that I would maybe still stick with or you can't just pick one, but I'm gonna go for it would be Messiah of Evil.

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Because I love like late night movies, stuff that feels dreamlike again, you know, something that just feels like it's made out of liminal space off of it. And yeah, I still feel the same way about it. Um

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I could go on.

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Oh, and uh yeah, you wanted a fun fact, did you, or something ridiculous? I struggled with this'cause I'm apparently not that interesting, but I'll tell you something the most ridiculous thing that I think ever happened to me, which was when I was a uh unistudent and when uh magic mushrooms were still legal in this uh

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country before the government in their infinite wisdom decided to make them illegal. Basically l I'll give you the short version of the story, the police. God bless them, they accidentally mind fucked me while I was tripping into making me think I was being followed by myself. Yeah.

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Like so there's a longer version of that, but that's a gist of it, and it's just it that happened. It's just it's ridiculous.

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Do you mean do you mean the police or the police?

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I was in like Stang.

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I wasn't sure if you meant the police as in cops or if you meant sting.

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Uh right.

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Sorry, Brad. What was that?

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I said mind your own business thing or

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I should have said but I didn't know at the time. I should have just said with one breath, with one flow, you will know synchronicity and then walked off.

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Perfect, perfect.

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All right, Jeffrey, you're next.

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Okay, so I tried to choose some films that maybe I haven't talked about too much on the podcast over these many years, um, that nevertheless give you a direct passageway into my soul.

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So uh uh my three favorite horrors to begin with first, uh one that I've only watched as an adult.

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and have has become a part of my personality. Uh this would be everyone's favorite film, The Pit.

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Yeah, that's right. We're talking trollologs. We're talking Jamie and what's her name? Annabelle?

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Ha ha ha.

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Um, we're talking about a kid who finds a pit in the woods full of trolls that he then feeds people to. Uh one of my favorite

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um uh films uh in the horror genre. It's uh uh ridiculous. It has a this is one of the fun facts about it, especially and it's especially cool now that uh it's been republished. Uh The original screenplay for this

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film was a little bit um more intense, let's say, and less ridiculous than it turned out in its final version. And there's a novelization of that script.

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that really treats the material seriously and um is pretty horrific.

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uh and quite sleazy. And it was very hard to find for quite some time. Um, but it's now been republished and is available. You can get it on Amazon. Uh so it's under the title Teddy. Uh so uh check it out. It's worth it's worth finding.

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Um, my other two favorite horrors that I've nominated are from my childhood, but they're still ones that I watch all the time. And I think again, they they imprinted on me early and explain a lot.

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Uh, so one of those is The Gate. Everyone loves The Gate, right? Who couldn't love The Gate? With uh young Steven Dorf and his metalhead friend who becomes protagonist in the inferior sequel. Still fine, but inferior.

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Uh lots of great special effects work in this. You know, we're talking this is late late eighties special effects work, a lot of miniatures.

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Um nightmares about the little uh homunculi who are biting you uh uh throughout most of my childhood.

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And finally, uh one that I've in I've inevitably I've talked about this one, but you know, not enough, let's say.

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Ernest Scared Stupid, a really important film, one of the best films of all time. Certainly the best Ernest film. I know, I know.

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Yeah, Ernest Goes to Jail. It's a great movie. It's maybe the better movie, but Ernest Scared Stupid, we know in our hearts it is the best of the bunch.

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A truly uh scary film. Uh uh Trantor the Troll is is a monster.

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Like quite literally, this is a monstrous man killing children. Well, I mean, his goal is to kill children, but he's really just turning them into little tiny uh figurines that he puts inside of a tree. But I don't want that to happen to me. I certainly didn't as a child and I don't want it now as an adult.

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Uh Jim Varney is a national treasure. We'll never replace him. Uh R.I.P. Jim. One favorite non-horror film. I chose one that again kind of sums up what a Jeffrey film is, except outside of the horror genre.

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And this is a VHS only gem known as Computer Beach Party. I love Computer Beach Party. It is a glorious, glorious film, uh, an 80s set movie all on the beach and at a beach house.

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of where some some kids use a computer to plan the ultimate like college rager.

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And um that's just a small part of of what this is. I mean, it's like computer exploitation plus beach party exploitation plus um uh drag racing across the sand in these little dune buggies and about finding treasure.

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Uh it's it's a wild, wild sex comedy that is not in any way sexy. Uh I can't recommend it enough. I believe you can watch the whole thing on YouTube. It's pretty easy to to come across.

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Uh and uh just if if nothing else, look at look at the VHS box art. You won't regret it. It's a work of art.

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Ha ha.

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Huh.

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And my interesting fact for you is that I am a uh rabid book collector, particularly a rare book.

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I have a personal library of over 10,000 in my home. Um, can't stop buying them. Got a little preview of this once with a very well regarded episode that Richard and I did uh about uh horror novels.

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And uh, you know what, we're gonna we're gonna do that again sometime with an expanded list of horror fiction you should check out'cause that would be fun and the people demand it and I demand it and Richard demands it. We all demand it. Um

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So yeah, I'm a I love books, love weird old books, particularly, you know, genre books, horror, mystery, uh, sleaze, science fiction, um, anything that is unusual, strange, and hard to come by.

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I buy it and then I put it in a pile. And then that pile gets covered up by another pile. And then it gets put in a closet. And then it just keeps growing and growing and growing. Yep.

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Do do you remember when I innocently asked you if you were gonna open a bookstore? And you're like, No.

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Ha ha ha.

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I probably reacted poorly. No, I listen, I I buy and I keep.

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Or it's overwhelming.

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I give a

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Overwhelmed.

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All right.

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I'd like to uh respond to Jeffrey first.

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about that.

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Oh.

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Please.

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So uh Jim uh Jim Barney first portrayed Ernest for a television commercial for Beach Bend uh Speedway, which is located where I'm located. Mm-hmm.

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So there's a little piece of trivia. I have not seen Ernest Scare Stupid or Ernest Goes to Jail. However, I did love Ernest Goes to Camp and I saw Ernest Aids Christmas at the theater.

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Yeah as a child. Also, I think of Jeffrey every single Christmas Eve. Let me tell you how that's not creepy. I had a blog years ago, Yellow Razor.

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I think that was the name of it. Yeah. Yellow Razor Blogspot. Anyway, I interviewed several of them.

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People.

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And Jeffrey was one of them.

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And to delve into what we were about to talk about, Halloween is my favorite film, bar none, of any genre. And uh I would ask Halloween or Black Christmas and Jeffrey said Black Christmas, which

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And my wife and I watch every Christmas Eve as part of a day long Christmas evil marathon. So I always think, yeah, the time I thought why would anybody

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anything other than Halloween, but I really respected it. And I think that uh that Black Christmas obviously is a great choice over I mean, to to pick of the two. So yeah, I think about him when we watch the masterpiece Black Christmas every year.

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That makes me very happy. Yeah, absolutely it's absolutely no shade to Halloween. It's just Black Christmas kinda has the vibe that I wear more often, you know.

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Uh also uh Jeffrey amongst his uh ten thousand books uh bought a bunch of John Dixon Carr books and that makes me happy to know that that he did that.

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y I would imagine that you've got a better uh a a better collection than I do as far as the the rarity of them.

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I've got a near c near complete collection of first editions at this point. Pretty

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Incredible. I love Johnson Car.

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Uh three three hundred horror films. I mean we're on episode three hundred and I've answered this question a bunch. So I tried to pick some different things. Halloween, we're just gonna say favorite film of all time for Christmas.

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Uh very dear friend got me a Blu-ray of Halloween one and two at all the deleted scenes, all inserted, all cleaned up.

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I'm looking forward to seeing that because I have not seen all of that together as one film before. That was Richard that did that. Thank you, Richard.

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Welcome. It's gonna be crazy.

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It's gonna be crazy. I'm gonna say The Haunting of Julia, which is a film that we covered when it did not have any kind of any sort of release.

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Oh yeah.

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Uh I think it's one of the underrated um haunted house films films of the seventies altogether. And then I'm going to pick House of Dark Shadows.

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Uh that the the one that uh contain that took the storyline of Barnabas and condensed it into a film.

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Um, except they didn't ha they had a higher budget and they didn't have the um the strictures of being on network television, daytime television. I think it is one of the underrated uh vampire films, certainly, of the seventies. I think uh

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people sleep on it. It just it takes the barn of a story, condenses it into about an hour and a half. Uh there's no fat on the bone. It's just it's just dark shadows. Um I bought the Blu-ray and I was maybe ten minutes in

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I went to Amazon and ordered Richard a copy and just sent it to him. Um because I I enjoyed it that much and I thought that he would as well.

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I do.

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A favorite non horror film. Uh I'm a huge fan of Palin Pressburg's I Know Where I'm Going from nineteen forty five.

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Uh it is uh romantic comedy. It is also life affirming. Uh it it it makes me very happy to watch it. Uh I think.

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There are lots of titles that they did that obviously are better well, you know, better known. The Red Shoes, uh Colonel Blimp.

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et cetera, et cetera. Uh I own the D V D from the Criterion Collection for it has no Blu-ray, as far as I know here in America. Um, my region free player shit the bed and and

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So I'm very happy to have this on DVD. A strange fact, uh, I collect barometers.

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It's sort of a strange thing. My uncle bought me one and before you know it, I've got a wall full of'em and I've got different kinds all kinds of of different kind of barometers. Uh I've got some from friends that have sent me barometers.

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I'm working right now. Elizabeth bought me a literal four foot gigantic barometer and I'm working on where to put it right now. But uh yeah uh I like to tell the weather like they used to in the seventeen hundreds.

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I don't know if I knew the barometers. I don't know if I knew that about you.

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Yeah, yeah. Uh I have I have several very nice ones. Uh you've got the banjo style, which is the one that that you most commonly see probably in films.

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Uh but I've got a desktop I've uh and and vintage. I mean I've got lots of of very nice barometers.

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That's amazing.

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And I want to say I'm just so excited to have Simon and Mark and Jeffrey all together with us, uh, or me with you all, however you want to look at it. I'm just very excited, Mark. It's a pleasure to meet you. I've heard nothing but good things.

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Oh thank you.

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Simon, one of my dearest friends, Jeffrey, I've known for years. Jeffrey has got, like we talked about before, when he picked his three.

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They were all Jeffrey films. There's a very, very identifiable Jeffrey film and I love him for it.

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Yeah, I I have to credit Jeffrey for for uh one of my picks coming up and also for changing the way my brain works with cinema. Like I I

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Yeah.

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I used to get very frustrated with bad films, uh, or or you know, films that were seemingly nonsensical movies.

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And like not appreciating the outsider art aspect of horror because a lot of frustrated artists, you know, would

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do horror because they had to. Or you had people who were diehard horror fans who had a very interesting idea of how to make it happen within their budget. And so you get these absolutely bonkers movies. So yes, we are I am eternally grateful to To this man,

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Absolutely.

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I know exactly the film you're talking about, The Turning Point. We'll talk about it later.

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My three favorite horror films uh right now, and for many years, some two of these have been favorites for a long time. They actually fought each other brutally for the top spot. Um, the second one, my second favorite horror film of all time is Phenomena.

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uh the one with um john travolta no the argento darry argento's phenomena aka creepers has been with me since childhood um absolutely adore that film i have the t-shirt i have the vhs

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I have a pretty cool Mexican lobby card of it. And I definitely have bought it multiple times on different formats.

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to get the best copy. The one that won, the one that beat it out is my favorite horror film of all time. Sometimes I tell people it's my favorite film of all time, regardless of genre, and that is The House by the Cemetery from good old Lucio Fulci.

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Um, I am

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All about Bob. He's great. Uh Bob will soon have uh returned to cinema. Apparently the kid actor who's all grown up is gonna be in a horror movie soon. And I really hope they dub him badly. That would be Precious

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That'd be so awesome. Yeah, I just, I just, it's one of those movies I want to live inside. I love it so much. Um, I did accidentally, I would never do this on purpose, smoke the substance once.

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With my friend Sam. And um while we were watching House by the Cemetery, while I was under the influence of this substance, I looked at him and I said,

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Man, I'm in this movie. And Sam goes, Yeah. I go, Yeah, I'm inside the movie. And he goes, Yeah.

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And then he just didn't say anything.

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Uh but my third I'm gonna just steal from Simon because uh is the one I thought of, Hausu, uh 1977, absolute.

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Masterpiece. It's it's a film.

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of film. Like if you love movie making and you love to watch people who also love movie making throw every single aspect of filmmaking they could get into one thing. That's why I I really love How suit is just

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Incredible. Absolutely incredible. As for my my favorite non-horror film, this one recently beat out uh the Music Man. I'm a big Music Man fan.

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The old uh the one with uh Mr. Preston speaking of places and people named Preston, not the Matthew Broderick version, which is hideous.

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Brutally, brutally made for TV hideousness. Don't watch that one. But uh a movie that just

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Snuck in after many, many, many, many viewings is uh a little movie called Persuasion. It is a Jane Austen adaptation from nineteen ninety-five. There have been other adaptations of Persuasion. I won't watch them.

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I love this one too much. This is so special to me. Uh it's a movie, again, filmmaking, just

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Purely wonderful filmmaking, subtle and sweet and perfectly acted. And it reminds me of my wife and just like a relationship because I used to be a sea captain.

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That's not that's not the fact about me. That's not real. That didn't happen. Just love that movie. Highly recommend if you're gonna watch any Jane Austen adaptation, which I know everyone who listens to horror movie podcasts is about to do at any given moment.

354
00:39:35,391 --> 00:39:42,159
Didn't watch that one. As for interesting fact about me, um I'll make it I'll make it horror adjacent. When we were

355
00:39:42,688 --> 00:39:55,568
Touring what is it called? Yosemite National Park. I believe we were in Yosemite when I was five and my parents were doing the full tour, going to all the little cool places where you meet up with the park rangers and stuff. And I believe

356
00:39:55,967 --> 00:40:07,983
There's a fishery where they are like studying fish and like breeding habits and stuff like that. And we were walking along the stone pathways between pools.

357
00:40:08,351 --> 00:40:20,047
brimming with fish, like hundreds and hundreds of thousands of fish, just swimming and swimming and swimming and getting it on and having a good old time. And I was entranced by the motion of the water and these fish.

358
00:40:20,704 --> 00:40:28,880
So entranced that I fell in. I fell in, and it was a very shallow pool of water. So, of course, I landed on my knees.

359
00:40:29,248 --> 00:40:38,992
in this water and the pain of my knees getting scraped made me remember the trailer to a movie called Piranha. I had seen just the trailer.

360
00:40:39,423 --> 00:40:44,335
for piranha when I was probably four and now I was five and the fish

361
00:40:44,768 --> 00:40:59,807
swimming around me and the pain connected and I thought they were eating me. So I started screeching like I was being eaten alive by a bunch of probably bass or trout or something would not eat people.

362
00:41:01,248 --> 00:41:06,717
And my dad had to pull me out and I was just screaming bloody murder until they showed me I still had my leg.

363
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,760
That's a true story.

364
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,800
Geez, I don't I don't think I've ever heard that.

365
00:41:12,224 --> 00:41:18,768
Yeah, that was a fun one. That was a good one. That was a good time. And when I say I was five, I was actually twenty. But you know, I was scared.

366
00:41:18,768 --> 00:41:21,168
All right.

367
00:41:21,168 --> 00:41:27,447
Uh but guys, I gotta go and go get this special guest. So please hold on for our super special guest.

368
00:41:28,096 --> 00:41:30,447
May I sing the national anthem while he's gone.

369
00:41:31,168 --> 00:41:32,016
Yes, please.

370
00:41:32,255 --> 00:41:35,856
Episode three hundred

371
00:41:36,335 --> 00:41:39,215
By the rocket.

372
00:41:39,695 --> 00:41:40,655
Hello.

373
00:41:41,135 --> 00:41:42,096
Hello.

374
00:41:43,536 --> 00:41:44,496
They're fabulous people.

375
00:41:44,496 --> 00:41:44,976
Yeah.

376
00:41:44,976 --> 00:41:46,585
How are you?

377
00:41:47,103 --> 00:41:50,704
I'm all right. I'm usually lurking in the other room.

378
00:41:51,903 --> 00:41:53,824
What a pleasure.

379
00:41:53,824 --> 00:41:56,224
It's fabulous y'all are on in one room.

380
00:42:00,192 --> 00:42:02,351
Lieta, how did you get involved in the show?

381
00:42:02,351 --> 00:42:05,711
Well, I was definitely lurking in the other room. Um

382
00:42:05,711 --> 00:42:06,231
Mm-hmm.

383
00:42:07,168 --> 00:42:17,208
I was I was hearing a lot of that. I get to see all the movies, of course. And eventually that rolled into me guesting on a couple episodes. There are many more ideas.

384
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,416
Bye.

385
00:42:18,815 --> 00:42:20,496
They don't get recorded as fast.

386
00:42:20,496 --> 00:42:27,385
I understand that. Would you would you like to give us uh three of your favorite horror films?

387
00:42:27,744 --> 00:42:36,367
Sure. And this was a really hard question, but I am I am a cozy rewatcher of movies, so that is where I landed. And the first

388
00:42:36,911 --> 00:42:46,032
is gonna be Cast a Deadly Spell, the HBO original. Honestly, until thinking about this question recently, I didn't even think it was a horror movie.

389
00:42:47,472 --> 00:42:49,661
Mainly because it's not on the top shelves.

390
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:52,320
I heard it.

391
00:42:52,320 --> 00:43:06,255
But it's got it's got all the stuff. It's got hints of Lovecraft, all the the sci-fi nerdy naming conventions. It's got werewolves and vampires, and I could watch it every single week. Um

392
00:43:06,255 --> 00:43:07,215
Okay.

393
00:43:07,215 --> 00:43:07,896
Yeah, yeah.

394
00:43:08,735 --> 00:43:23,135
Now the second is um I'm gonna go with Lost Boys. Just having rewatched it, I can say for sure it mostly takes place at night. But when I think about this movie, it seems hot and bright like summer.

395
00:43:23,615 --> 00:43:27,215
Which basically makes it perfect for ten months out of the year here.

396
00:43:30,367 --> 00:43:31,088
The movie.

397
00:43:31,088 --> 00:43:34,967
It was the sweatiest comic book shop that's ever existed.

398
00:43:35,231 --> 00:43:37,391
And and the sweatiest saxophonist.

399
00:43:37,391 --> 00:43:37,871
Oh happy.

400
00:43:37,871 --> 00:43:38,831
Oily.

401
00:43:38,831 --> 00:43:40,751
Oh my god.

402
00:43:40,751 --> 00:43:44,112
At comic conventions he has tables and he sells boxes.

403
00:43:44,112 --> 00:43:45,072
Body oil.

404
00:43:45,072 --> 00:43:46,032
Oh my gosh!

405
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:51,840
Yeah.

406
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,280
Who's a billionaire?

407
00:43:54,016 --> 00:43:55,215
She indeed is.

408
00:43:55,215 --> 00:43:58,335
Yeah. She looks like a f is it a football team?

409
00:43:58,335 --> 00:44:01,695
Atlanta Hawks, if I'm not mistaken, a basketball team. Yeah.

410
00:44:02,175 --> 00:44:03,675
Oh wow.

411
00:44:04,735 --> 00:44:09,583
Yep. Yep. Every Christmas we watch the Christmas special from Square Pegs. Um

412
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:22,800
Now my third for for the season that's not summer in Florida is the woods. I could watch this anytime. It's perfect for Arbor Day too, but I love the woods. I love how menacing those trees are.

413
00:44:23,552 --> 00:44:24,992
And I can watch it all the time.

414
00:44:24,992 --> 00:44:25,952
Yeah.

415
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,079
I love that.

416
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:39,929
Uh I'm well aware of year two, uh your love of that and it it really is uh one of those unsung horror films that it's hard to run into people that have seen it. Of course our crew has seen it.

417
00:44:40,704 --> 00:44:46,943
But it's it's hard that when you're talking about it like online or anywhere, people are like, What?

418
00:44:46,943 --> 00:44:47,224
Huh?

419
00:44:47,871 --> 00:44:50,992
I'm ashamed to say I haven't seen is that is it Lucky McKee?

420
00:44:52,672 --> 00:44:54,112
Yeah, I had to get on that.

421
00:44:54,112 --> 00:44:56,751
And uh it even has Bruce Campbell in it.

422
00:44:56,751 --> 00:44:57,711
Sure it does.

423
00:44:57,711 --> 00:45:04,320
Which I have I have loved from childhood from my watching of um oh you know what? I'm gonna forget the show now.

424
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,000
Briscoe County. Yes.

425
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,440
Briscoe County.

426
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,320
Nice.

427
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:16,688
I thought that show went on for so much longer than it did just because I it it like it was so permanent in my memories of childhood.

428
00:45:17,248 --> 00:45:30,864
So I have a I have another question for you. Yes. Um so you you mentioned that that Richard subjects you to all these viewings for the show. Yes. Um and I wonder if there is any film that you've had to watch.

429
00:45:31,103 --> 00:45:40,704
because of Richard, uh, for the the confines of this show, that you have like, you know, thrown your hands up and gone, I can't do this.

430
00:45:40,704 --> 00:45:41,903
I think I love the answer to that.

431
00:45:45,791 --> 00:45:46,751
Night train murder.

432
00:45:47,231 --> 00:45:52,282
I knew it. I keep I keep teasing Richard saying that I want you to to do a Christmas episode on it.

433
00:45:52,896 --> 00:45:57,695
Oh gosh, no, I couldn't. It's just, uh, the baddies don't get it bad enough.

434
00:45:58,896 --> 00:45:59,856
Made me so angry.

435
00:46:01,664 --> 00:46:10,063
That's a great pick though. And I've known that for I don't know, maybe 17 years now. I we've known each other for a long time.

436
00:46:10,063 --> 00:46:10,943
Long time.

437
00:46:11,456 --> 00:46:16,735
Yeah, I have I have been gifted a lot of a break from that. I haven't had to watch it since.

438
00:46:16,735 --> 00:46:24,416
No, huh? Oh yes. Oh yes. Well, in a and on a brighter note, could you give us a favorite non horror film?

439
00:46:26,335 --> 00:46:37,360
And and this might change from month to month, but the movie that I know for sure I can put in now and tomorrow and the day after and watch over and over again and love would be Noises Off.

440
00:46:40,351 --> 00:46:40,831
It's just

441
00:46:40,831 --> 00:46:42,032
So perfect.

442
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,568
Oh, it's so good.

443
00:46:48,320 --> 00:47:02,768
That's kind of like a shibleth. I'll ask people what do you think of noises off? And if they don't like it, I'm like, mm-hmm. You're absolutely right though. It is a I mean if I if I asked Elizabeth, hey, you want to watch Noises Off, she'd say yes.

444
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:04,400
Yeah.

445
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:05,135
Thank you.

446
00:47:05,376 --> 00:47:20,208
The funny thing is I have a friend. I have a friend who trained to work with the theater. Uh she she trained to do costuming and she'd done a lot of sets and everything like that. So she helped with theater productions in college. Now Brad to your question about people liking or not liking noises often.

447
00:47:20,384 --> 00:47:25,423
She doesn't like it, but for a very specific reason. She says it's too real.

448
00:47:26,864 --> 00:47:32,574
And the backbiting, it's all just too on point and she can't relive that.

449
00:47:33,056 --> 00:47:50,351
I understand, but thank God we can relive it. Yes. I'd like to say something that I know about you. One, you are a very, very talented artist. In fact, I commissioned a piece from you and it is hanging in my library with uh extreme pride.

450
00:47:50,592 --> 00:48:02,543
you took uh basically a couple of sentences from an MR James story and turned it into a beautiful drawing for me. Um I share it all the time with different folks.

451
00:48:03,103 --> 00:48:07,664
But uh you're very talented artist, obviously. Uh you do all the pictures.

452
00:48:08,304 --> 00:48:22,159
uh the wonderful pictures for uh Richard on his on the the show, on the blog, the website, everything. But could you tell us an un a an unusual fact or s maybe a fact that we don't know about you?

453
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:37,519
unusual fact or fact you don't know um well I for for my very sheltered and sort of um latchkey kid existence, I've worked a lot with horses.

454
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:40,463
And I've been thrown from a horse.

455
00:48:40,992 --> 00:48:47,152
And I got right back on the horse. Well, after I've recovered my breath, because that really knocks it out of you. Um

456
00:48:47,423 --> 00:48:58,320
And it's this weird sort of like ten years in my life where I got to work with some very bratty recalcitrant horses. I love the memories, the individual horses.

457
00:48:58,784 --> 00:49:03,311
There was one named Diablo that I nursed back from pneumonia by hand feeding him.

458
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,000
Um, but I would never revisit that.

459
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,400
I'm I'm not a horse girl.

460
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:08,880
Yeah.

461
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,039
I don't want to work with horses anymore.

462
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:14,940
Well that's I did not know that. That is very interesting. Um

463
00:49:15,391 --> 00:49:29,007
There's seventeen years I've known you all and I had no idea that you'd spent time with horse horses. I did ride a horse once. I did fall off of it. I landed on my head. I got back on the horse momentarily and then got off'cause that's what you do.

464
00:49:29,472 --> 00:49:39,440
So I compliment you. I'm terrified of horses. They're giant and can run fast and will hurt you. But no, I had no idea. That is a very interesting fact.

465
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,335
Really?

466
00:49:40,704 --> 00:49:42,623
Well I see I see Richard's on his way back.

467
00:49:42,623 --> 00:49:55,224
Ah. Well, I would love from all of us to thank you for joining us. Um all wait. Obviously you're a huge part of the show, even when people don't hear you or see you.

468
00:49:55,615 --> 00:50:02,735
You've kindly allowed Richard and all of us to take time to watch films. You've watched them with them. Um

469
00:50:02,847 --> 00:50:16,719
And I I know a little bit about that because I subject Elizabeth to the same thing. Uh and so we really we all wanna thank you uh for for all that you have done for the show and for Richard and for everything.

470
00:50:17,088 --> 00:50:20,208
Well, that's a pleasure. It's been fabulous talking with y'all.

471
00:50:20,208 --> 00:50:23,248
No, your episodes were magical to me.

472
00:50:23,248 --> 00:50:24,208
Absolutely.

473
00:50:24,208 --> 00:50:30,208
It's different in like a woman's viewpoint, which I thought was really cool and refreshing. And I love you even though you don't know that.

474
00:50:30,208 --> 00:50:33,088
Thank you.

475
00:50:34,463 --> 00:50:35,184
Okay.

476
00:50:35,184 --> 00:50:36,864
Okay, bye. Bye.

477
00:50:37,344 --> 00:50:37,693
Bye.

478
00:50:38,815 --> 00:50:47,280
I'm sorry I came back. That was this is probably a letdown. A letdown after that. Sorry. Uh do we need a break before we get into the the feedback?

479
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,480
You wanna do does anybody need like a just like a five or ten minute?

480
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,440
I'm fine.

481
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:51,920
Yeah.

482
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,880
I think I'm okay.

483
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,800
I mean we did the earlier in Pete.

484
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,280
Yeah.

485
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,239
Mm-hmm.

486
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,920
No, I held it. I held it for you guys. But yeah, let's jump into

487
00:51:01,472 --> 00:51:06,128
Let's see what I did. I say we do the audio first. Yeah, we'll do the audio feedback first.

488
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:13,456
Richard, hi, this is Rob in Baltimore wishing you a very happy three hundredth episode and congratulations.

489
00:51:13,791 --> 00:51:24,847
I've been listening ever since first hearing you on Jalo Chow Chow and I've read your two meltdown books cover to cover. Please keep up the good work, my man. Um compliments to Brad and Mark in particular as well.

490
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:34,590
Always love hearing them appear. Uh you put out a call for Rex. I am imploring you to turn your attention to nineteen eighty four's Survivor.

491
00:51:34,911 --> 00:51:49,423
The elevator pitch is Final Destination meets Messiah of Evil, so of course it rules. But what I like most about the movie is that the vibes are immaculate. Dude, it's warm and cozy like a bowl of soup on an autumn afternoon.

492
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:56,320
But there's like long been a movement to try to retroactively associate the nineteen eighties with bright neon colours.

493
00:51:56,512 --> 00:52:10,512
But us old heads who were there at the time, we know that everything was brown, orange, and gold back then. Like it did not look like birthday cake funfetti in the nineteen eighties. No, sir, everything was the shade of a Ricola cough drop.

494
00:52:11,007 --> 00:52:16,143
Like from wood panelling to appliances to ashtrays. That was how we liked it, baby.

495
00:52:16,735 --> 00:52:28,271
And the movie it coasts on an overwhelming amount of those beautiful colors, bro. It looks like a San Diego Padres uniform with stains from like half melted caramels and rollos all over it. It's gorgeous.

496
00:52:28,704 --> 00:52:34,639
Movie's got a seventy-eight uh Camaro that looks amazing. It's got a mansion in the Santa Ana Mountains of California.

497
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:44,623
Uh the movie takes place at Christmas. The movie has a nightpool scene. I'm saying this movie rules do not tarry. We gotta hear you talk about it.

498
00:52:45,503 --> 00:52:54,000
So anyway, uh thanks again for all the great content you've been pushing out there from blogs to books, podcasts, YouTube shelfies, music.

499
00:52:54,655 --> 00:53:08,304
Uh before I go, I want to quickly invite listeners to please follow me, Rob F at letterboxd.com/Robocopbutgoth Now don't steal the idea of a RoboCop that's goth, okay? I will litigate

500
00:53:08,304 --> 00:53:17,623
First up we got heard from Rob in Baltimore and um first thing I gotta say to Rob is please don't sue us. Oh my god. I I didn't know about the litigation that could

501
00:53:17,983 --> 00:53:28,503
results in doing a podcast. But uh Rob, uh I haven't seen Soulf Survivor in years. It was one of the first movies that Brad copied for me.

502
00:53:30,016 --> 00:53:39,695
So I somewhere I still have Soul Survivor, but on it it says Suite 16 and it's crossed out.

503
00:53:40,431 --> 00:53:49,072
And it says Soul Survivor on it. And then on the Sweet 16 DVD you sent me, it said actually sweet 16.

504
00:53:49,072 --> 00:53:53,840
Very I get easily confused.

505
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,239
But the m I need to revisit that movie.

506
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:56,719
Surviving.

507
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:03,960
He compared it I think to Messiah of Evil, didn't he? And I think where it came on my radar there was an episode I can't remember the podcast.

508
00:54:04,768 --> 00:54:13,007
Where people were doing like triple bills of things and the one they mentioned for that was Soul Survivor, Messiah of Evil, and It Followed.

509
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:20,527
And yeah, I can I can like I can totally see that. And for some reason like vibe wise, um not trajectory it

510
00:54:20,992 --> 00:54:31,344
It's kind of, you know, he's talking about the maybe it's the the uh the era or whatever, that's eighty four. This is a few years early, but some reason vibe wise, it's kinda reminded me a bit of He Knows You're Alone.

511
00:54:31,648 --> 00:54:45,583
I could be getting this wrong. I've only seen Solf survived a couple of times, but again, maybe it's that I mean that definitely because that's where, you know, you're still like the seventies is bleeding into the eighties, especially with all the uh sort of very beige interiors and stuff Remember he was talking about very eloquently.

512
00:54:46,192 --> 00:54:50,461
Cool. And that's yeah, that's everything was wood paneling and shag carpet.

513
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,639
Yeah.

514
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:55,280
But yes, thank you, Rob, for writing in. Really appreciate you.

515
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,269
Absolutely. Rob's cool. He's a cool guy. He's a cool duder.

516
00:54:58,976 --> 00:54:59,695
Hello

517
00:54:59,695 --> 00:55:02,576
Hello, this is the Doomed Show. It's Dan.

518
00:55:02,576 --> 00:55:03,056
Yeah.

519
00:55:03,056 --> 00:55:04,255
Brennan.

520
00:55:04,255 --> 00:55:13,648
from Corrupted Youth Podcast, which Richard, you were a guest on once upon a time. Brennan, what did Richard cover with us?

521
00:55:14,175 --> 00:55:15,856
Asking the wrong guy right there.

522
00:55:15,856 --> 00:55:17,295
The seventh curse is the

523
00:55:17,775 --> 00:55:18,735
And the movie you

524
00:55:18,735 --> 00:55:20,175
Literally show all your friends.

525
00:55:21,135 --> 00:55:21,945
The seventh curse.

526
00:55:22,496 --> 00:55:23,215
OH

527
00:55:23,215 --> 00:55:24,175
Oh like

528
00:55:24,175 --> 00:55:25,615
The greatest movie ever

529
00:55:25,615 --> 00:55:26,576
that's right

530
00:55:26,576 --> 00:55:27,536
Right.

531
00:55:28,255 --> 00:55:28,606
Yeah.

532
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:37,615
And also, like, well, I I am part of the uh Hello, this is the Doomed Show alumni as I was on the deranged episode.

533
00:55:38,016 --> 00:55:44,208
because I'm from Wisconsin, so therefore I'm obligated to discuss anything about Ed Geen.

534
00:55:44,608 --> 00:55:47,967
Or any of the other many serial killers we've got here.

535
00:55:47,967 --> 00:55:53,775
Too many to count. Yeah. Anyways, it's not about us. It's about you right now.

536
00:55:53,775 --> 00:55:54,735
That's right.

537
00:55:55,695 --> 00:56:00,826
300 episodes. Congratulations on bowling the perfect podcast.

538
00:56:01,088 --> 00:56:03,728
It's really amazing. Three hundred is pretty crazy though.

539
00:56:03,728 --> 00:56:18,543
Yes, and as someone, you know, like we're not the most prolific, and so we know just exactly how hard of a struggle that can be. Yeah. And every time a new episode comes out, I'm there. It's always just such a

540
00:56:18,847 --> 00:56:29,168
Shining beacon of positivity for the weird and the strange and movies that normally don't get the respect that they truly deserve even if they don't.

541
00:56:29,344 --> 00:56:30,543
What a shining reveal.

542
00:56:30,543 --> 00:56:31,023
Yeah.

543
00:56:31,023 --> 00:56:31,503
Thank you.

544
00:56:31,503 --> 00:56:34,143
You don't even describe our podcast that nice.

545
00:56:34,143 --> 00:56:35,824
Hell no, why would I?

546
00:56:35,824 --> 00:56:36,304
Yeah.

547
00:56:36,304 --> 00:56:37,264
It's garbage.

548
00:56:37,744 --> 00:56:39,454
You have like ten of listeners.

549
00:56:40,255 --> 00:56:42,416
but anyway Congratulations.

550
00:56:42,416 --> 00:56:43,376
Congratulations.

551
00:56:43,376 --> 00:56:47,695
It's an amazing achievement. Keep up the great work and hang in there, dongle.

552
00:56:47,695 --> 00:56:48,376
Hang in there.

553
00:56:49,023 --> 00:56:53,103
Next we heard from uh Dan and Brennan of Corrupted Youth Podcast.

554
00:56:53,632 --> 00:57:05,295
Um, Dan is awesome that his podcast rules. He's been introducing his son Brennan to horror movies since he was a kid, and they've been recording the show.

555
00:57:05,952 --> 00:57:20,079
Since he was, I think Brendan was 13 or 15. I can't recall, but now he's in his twenties and they're still uh picking movies for each other to watch. And it's just awesome. And uh yeah, much love for the seventh curse.

556
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:27,440
And if you haven't gotten around to the seventh curse yet, folks, give yourself a treat, a Hong Kong perfection.

557
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:36,592
They were really nice guys. I had no idea they were father and son. Oh yeah. I'm I'm gonna attempt to listen. I don't listen to podcasts. I'm not really into them.

558
00:57:36,592 --> 00:57:47,327
Also, the art of Dan. Dan Bezel, uh, B-I. Oh, I got this. B-I-E-S-E-L. Dan Bezel. The art of Dan Bezel. Check out his stuff. It's really good.

559
00:57:47,807 --> 00:57:54,047
Totally. I'm going to. They were they were really nice guys. I really enjoyed their uh their message. Enjoyed Rob's as well.

560
00:57:54,527 --> 00:57:54,907
Oh yeah.

561
00:57:55,456 --> 00:58:06,735
Hello Richard, Brad, Jeffrey, Simon, and Mark. Congratulations on three hundred episodes. I haven't been there from the beginning, but it has been eight solid years as a Doom Show lawyer.

562
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,815
And the show has been consistently great throughout its lifespan, and the love is still strong.

563
00:58:13,791 --> 00:58:27,481
You each bring something special to the show with your humor and personality. Mark has been an excellent addition to the roster and I can't wait to get more Mark episodes. So I hope the show continues for as long as you all are having fun.

564
00:58:28,255 --> 00:58:31,503
I did want to ask each of you a couple of questions.

565
00:58:32,224 --> 00:58:45,231
Which is your favorite episode you've been a part of and and why? Like which way do you rem which one do you remember the most fondly and why? Uh my second question, what is your favorite movie you've seen this year?

566
00:58:45,695 --> 00:58:54,425
And third, top three Italian Gothic films. Doesn't have to be from the classic period, just any top three Italian Gothic films.

567
00:58:55,072 --> 00:58:57,472
All right. Thanks guys. Talk to you later. Bye.

568
00:58:57,952 --> 00:59:07,612
And then we had longtime listener Travis. Uh Travis is just awesome. Thank you, sir, for writing in and for giving us some questions. Oh man.

569
00:59:08,192 --> 00:59:08,911
Um

570
00:59:08,911 --> 00:59:12,222
If it's art with you guys, I can answer first on these questions.

571
00:59:12,768 --> 00:59:13,967
Perfecto.

572
00:59:13,967 --> 00:59:25,367
Uh so he gave fave epis fave episodes uh of the show and I have one uh for each of you. Of course, Jeffrey called it earlier uh Nightmare Weekend.

573
00:59:25,824 --> 00:59:30,480
Uh was was one of the uh the tipping point in changing my brain chemistry for bad movies.

574
00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:40,751
Um, I almost picked Nightmare Weekend as my w one of my favorite of all time, but didn't quite hit the top three. Nothing's gonna take uh Hao Su out of there.

575
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:56,304
Uh, but as far as um Mark goes, I believe the episode we did that I was like, This is this is the kind of movie I wanna watch uh and talk about with Mark all the time was Beyond Evil. Got

576
00:59:56,304 --> 00:59:57,264
C Saxon.

577
00:59:57,264 --> 01:00:00,143
Exactly. Mostly shirtless John Saxon, the whole movie.

578
01:00:01,103 --> 01:00:06,864
Uh with with Simon, uh I think you know what I'm gonna say and it's our idle hands episode.

579
01:00:08,768 --> 01:00:14,159
the greatest segment. Uh I I didn't I didn't even think it would be that funny.

580
01:00:14,688 --> 01:00:25,231
But then we did all the different uh frickin' slang for marijuana and I injured myself laughing. It took all the granddaddy perp Kush, all the dank.

581
01:00:25,967 --> 01:00:28,128
Dank bongs to get me back into shape.

582
01:00:28,128 --> 01:00:31,248
You sure you didn't s injure yourself from sitting on Pete's crutch?

583
01:00:33,039 --> 01:00:34,000
Yeah.

584
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:42,000
Well, it was the one single individual doobie that did Oh, sorry.

585
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:55,088
And as far as Brad goes, of course, I'm gonna say uh a combo. I gotta say two'cause like I love both of these. I listen to them back to back all the time. Our S F. Brownrig episode, Super Show.

586
01:00:55,423 --> 01:00:56,623
And

587
01:00:56,623 --> 01:01:09,784
Rom night mega sode. I those are just I hope people looking for franchisey stuff, just to hear two dudes talking for way too long about stuff have found those because I'm very proud of our work on those.

588
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:17,583
I am pretty sure no one else had done s S F Brown rig. Well I I won't say no one. Right. I certainly didn't see anybody doing

589
01:01:18,271 --> 01:01:26,735
The classic films of SF Brown Rigg in an episode. Uh the promenade episode, mega sode was awesome. We recorded that in bits. So

590
01:01:26,735 --> 01:01:27,215
Yeah.

591
01:01:27,215 --> 01:01:39,967
there for six hours actually. Uh that was back in the old days. That w and that was uh those both of those are great. They're on my list as well. And when I get to'em I'll uh I've got several.

592
01:01:40,447 --> 01:01:51,418
My favorite moment from that was when that one DVD said what SF and SF Brownrig stood for. And if I recall correctly, it's like Sheridan Fergus Brownrig.

593
01:01:52,096 --> 01:01:58,096
And when I told you that, Brad, without missing a beat, you went. His parents hated him.

594
01:02:00,672 --> 01:02:04,896
Well that was great. Mark, do you have a favorite episode of yours?

595
01:02:04,896 --> 01:02:11,865
So m you took mine and I was afraid that was gonna happen. So my runner up is with a child that we did in October.

596
01:02:13,487 --> 01:02:14,447
Love the child.

597
01:02:14,447 --> 01:02:18,327
Right one. Me too. It's it's so weird. And I love talking about with Richard it was really

598
01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:20,880
How about you, Simon?

599
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:30,128
I had a list of like half a dozen. I'm not gonna get into it all because I'd be here all week. But yeah, um I I'm gonna just not overthink it and go, yeah, idle hands and I I revisited it last night.

600
01:02:30,271 --> 01:02:38,384
As um I don't know, you guys have done this and it feels a bit m maybe narcissistic or whatever, but I just I enjoy it, so whatever, I don't care, really.

601
01:02:38,688 --> 01:02:53,456
I forget the first one that I did with this, but like listening to um episodes you've been on as like a commentary, sort of, you know, like syncing it with the movie. The one I've maybe done this more than any and it works perfectly because it actually syncs time wise with the film is for Don't Open Till Christmas.

602
01:02:53,952 --> 01:02:55,599
So then they're both like eighty six minutes.

603
01:02:55,775 --> 01:02:56,976
Nice.

604
01:02:56,976 --> 01:03:09,856
I've tried it with other ones and it's just fun to see where things you're not intending to do a commentary, but just where you get this accidental magic of things sinking. Like Idle Hands last night from um like when it opens with the uh torch of the, you know, the Columbia lady.

605
01:03:10,112 --> 01:03:24,751
and you drop like a vocal sample talking about them heading into the light. And the best bit at the end where because it's a bit shorter than the movie, but where it cuts off uh there's some uh you know promos and stuff afterwards.

606
01:03:25,152 --> 01:03:33,423
But um we ended the episode because one of the um I think slang for munches was I'm gonna get this the wrong way around.

607
01:03:33,952 --> 01:03:49,615
With Pizza Go. And so you played out with uh Ghost Pizza by Florida band called Gyro Jets, and the way that it synced with the not commentary was it made it look like the offspring were playing it for the high school dance.

608
01:03:51,952 --> 01:03:56,222
Well that's who we style ourselves after. That's our that's like the band that inspired gyro.

609
01:03:56,768 --> 01:04:06,367
Brilliant. So that just uh d that just made me love it even more. But yeah, that that's the one I whether it's 420, whether it's October, that's definitely the one I go back to the most.

610
01:04:06,367 --> 01:04:09,818
Nice. Jeffrey, what's uh what's a favorite of yours?

611
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:21,456
All right. So I'm going to run through some honorable mentions first. Um, these are films that I think we had really strong episodes with uh stuff like Boarding House, uh, The Kindred.

612
01:04:21,632 --> 01:04:32,143
Uh Runaway Nightmare, um Miami Gollum, Face with Two Left Feet, Slumber Party and not Slum No, Last Slumber Party. Sorry, I wrote it wrong in my notes. Hack a lantern.

613
01:04:32,192 --> 01:04:37,679
Um even like deep cuts that were things that I think you recommended that I I wouldn't have necessarily seen.

614
01:04:37,887 --> 01:04:50,480
on my own, or at least not right away. Things like Sex Demons and Death. Um, The Urge to Kill. That was a great one. However, uh my I'm choosing my favorite, like the the one that really stood out to me.

615
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:59,760
when I was looking through the list of everything we've done um was a very early one. In fact it was the second episode we ever recorded, Beyond the Door Three.

616
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,199
Oh yes.

617
01:05:01,199 --> 01:05:07,420
That's when um, you know,'cause our first episode on House of the Laughing Windows, even though I would say that's that's a Jeffrey movie in some ways.

618
01:05:07,583 --> 01:05:20,304
Um it it was a little bit of a r you know, we were still figuring out like the chemistry. Beyond the door three, we'd gotten it. Um and that one has so many fond things I remember. Um like Bosco, the weird little train trail.

619
01:05:21,264 --> 01:05:21,943
Blue.

620
01:05:22,175 --> 01:05:35,503
Um uh uh Bo Svenson's incredibly long scarf. Um is like Doctor Who S scarf. Um there's so many different things I think of in love with that movie. And I think we had a really good time talking about it.

621
01:05:35,711 --> 01:05:41,231
And uh I think it set up uh everything that would was to come after. Um

622
01:05:41,231 --> 01:05:44,592
Yep, yep. Especially that how rude.

623
01:05:45,072 --> 01:05:45,552
Food.

624
01:05:45,552 --> 01:05:48,121
That sticks in my head forever. Love it.

625
01:05:48,704 --> 01:05:52,112
Uh Brad, you got any any favorites of the show?

626
01:05:52,512 --> 01:06:04,623
Absolutely. Um, obviously like we talked about the SF Brown rig and the prom not megasode. I'm not saying we had anything to do with it, but we did lay out a roadmap for Severin Arrow.

627
01:06:05,023 --> 01:06:11,632
um all of the uh all of the the boutique uh labels to put out these films.

628
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:23,215
Two of our only two of our first seven episodes even had a a retail list that you could buy. Wow. So we like I said, we we didn't care anything about the commercial uh nature of the podcast.

629
01:06:23,552 --> 01:06:36,751
I would say symptoms, next of kin, dead and buried. Uh next of kin and symptom symptoms. They did not have blu-rays. You actually helped me source copies of those, uh, which I thought was amazing.

630
01:06:37,152 --> 01:06:45,456
Uh su both of them such great films. And then one we did for Mark was Mortuary, and like so many films that we ultimately love.

631
01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:56,527
I did not pay it its proper due the first time I saw it. It took a it took another really nice viewing uh mortuary for me to be like, oh, what what was I why didn't I love this to start with?

632
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:08,599
But yes, um I would say I would say some of those early ones, which I probably can't even listen to now, we did next to Ken symptoms in our first seven episodes. Yeah.

633
01:07:09,376 --> 01:07:19,695
So but and I'm not saying we had anything to do with it, but we did pick a lot of movies that ended up finally getting, you know, mm Blu ray H D releases. Yep.

634
01:07:19,695 --> 01:07:34,159
That's a common theme with this show. I think back in the day it was we we wanted to make sure we covered stuff nobody was talking about that both Brad and Jeffrey, we oh yeah so much of our stuff is is is now out because of

635
01:07:34,159 --> 01:07:41,440
Yes. There's many Blu rays of uh films that you and Jeffrey have covered that have come out since as well. Mm-hmm.

636
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:46,079
We should start making blue bootlegs of our audio commentary.

637
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:47,480
F-f-f-f-f-f...

638
01:07:47,903 --> 01:07:54,831
It's gonna say an episode for me, uh you guys, an early one that has a lot to answer for has gotta be was it like episode three, the vibe?

639
01:07:56,447 --> 01:08:05,903
Yeah, yeah, that uh one'cause I remember from that I ended up blind buying Blu rays of stuff like um murder obsession and

640
01:08:06,112 --> 01:08:19,087
Night of the Devils and b buying discs of like I caught countless other movies and I'm still I I think I've teased over the years. I'd love a sequel for that. I don't know whether I'm sure it it can be done, but it's just like that to me it was like the

641
01:08:19,488 --> 01:08:25,967
early legendary sort of seminal episode of the show that just sort of opened the flipping floodgates for me.

642
01:08:25,967 --> 01:08:30,847
I mean Richard was able to articulate what the vibe is and it's something that

643
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:39,920
That I certainly locked on to as well and knew exactly what he was talking about. Uh people that I mean.

644
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:40,250
Yeah.

645
01:08:40,511 --> 01:08:52,591
If I had to pick an episode probably that did the most, I'd say it was probably the vibe people. And by people I mean twelve people love the vibe episode. We've talked about

646
01:08:53,070 --> 01:08:58,416
Doing a s like a sequel to that episode. Um for years we have

647
01:08:58,416 --> 01:08:58,895
Should do it.

648
01:08:58,895 --> 01:09:08,185
Oh I'm glad you mentioned that because he was. Richard was able to take these feelings and articulate'em in a way that was relatable to other horror film fans.

649
01:09:08,511 --> 01:09:19,310
I mean you say twelve people but it feels a bit like was it that first Sex Pistols uh either Sex Pistols or Velvet Underground, I forget which gig where only like twelve people showed up to it but it made a big impact on all of them.

650
01:09:19,310 --> 01:09:28,015
Well, it like I said, he just he nailed it and the people really got it too and I was really I'm really proud to be a have been a part of that.

651
01:09:28,608 --> 01:09:29,551
Yay!

652
01:09:30,112 --> 01:09:35,152
We also had other questions here before I I totally I was that was so much fun, I forgot. Um

653
01:09:35,152 --> 01:09:35,631
Yeah.

654
01:09:35,631 --> 01:09:40,192
Fave movie uh you've seen this year. Um Mark, what do you got?

655
01:09:40,192 --> 01:09:52,176
My favorite movie that I've seen this year. I think my favorite movie and oh this sounds really lame, but I really liked Primate. I thought it was so much fun. Uh I do like killer animal movies and this one just kind of

656
01:09:52,543 --> 01:10:00,207
I was worried we we were gonna get like a whole like hour of backstory, but we didn't get that. And I just thought it was a lot of fun. So I I'm gonna say primate.

657
01:10:00,832 --> 01:10:03,471
Yeah, I'm not gonna monkey around is my answer.

658
01:10:05,631 --> 01:10:07,536
Nice. How about you, Simon?

659
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:14,800
I had to look that up because I did see the trailer. I thought for the minute it was the one with Robbie Williams, but no, that's satellite monkey or something.

660
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,680
Better Man. I love Better Man.

661
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,119
What what was it called? B better man.

662
01:10:19,119 --> 01:10:19,930
Mm-hmm.

663
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:25,712
Uh right, okay. Yeah, but I get my wires crossed. Uh so not one like from this year and

664
01:10:26,047 --> 01:10:38,416
again, there's always too many of these things. But for put putting down to one, I'd probably say m first time watch of the pa this year for me would be Maniac Cop two. Uh just'cause, you know, like obviously I love horror stuff, I love action movies as m as well.

665
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:52,880
And this is just such an insane like amal an amalgam of mo both. I wish there were more good um sort of action slashes. I actually watched it either the day before or the day after I rewatched Cobra. And you could definitely tell there was some influence on it.

666
01:10:53,087 --> 01:10:59,807
And just some of the stunts and stuff in it are just absolutely insane. And I say it's a sequel for me that I think bests the original as much as I love that too.

667
01:10:59,807 --> 01:11:06,192
Oh yeah, that's a good one. Totally. How about you, Jeffrey? What's a what's a movie for you for this year you love?

668
01:11:06,192 --> 01:11:20,431
So my favorite uh first-time uh Jeffree film watch of the year is uh The Devil Ant. Uh this is uh David the the Rock Nelson film. Uh if you're unfamiliar with this man, he is a

669
01:11:20,912 --> 01:11:33,119
wild man of uh of uh conventions and uh tape orders and he uh makes these, you know, backyard monster movies that largely star just himself playing multiple

670
01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:33,609
Rolls.

671
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:45,344
Um, but then also people he like ambushes at conventions or sometimes like on the street and at parties. Um yeah, Conrad But Brooks versus the werewolf is like his his famous one.

672
01:11:45,583 --> 01:11:56,992
Um uh which stars Conrad Brooks of uh Plan Nine and, you know, uh Ed Wood fame as an old man who is very happy to tell you, I knew I knew Eddie Wood.

673
01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:09,984
Uh, but The Devil Ant is a over two hour long film that David The Rock Nelson made. He made like two sequels to it as well. I have not seen those yet. Uh but The Devil Ant is just this rubber ant.

674
01:12:10,192 --> 01:12:13,311
That he, uh, he has.

675
01:12:13,311 --> 01:12:13,792
Yeah.

676
01:12:13,792 --> 01:12:18,311
He says, you know, in the early parts of the movie it gets contaminated with nuclear waste.

677
01:12:18,815 --> 01:12:32,496
And then he just like brings it around to conventions and puts it in people's faces. Some of them are willing, others are not willing. So it's got it's got cameos from so many people, including Hillary Clinton, isn't it?

678
01:12:32,496 --> 01:12:32,855
Yeah.

679
01:12:33,119 --> 01:12:34,319
Yeah.

680
01:12:34,319 --> 01:12:36,239
Um and the devil aunt just goes.

681
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,000
Ah and and kills people. Um and that's for two.

682
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:47,488
Over two hours. I I would not subject you to this one, Richard, for the show.

683
01:12:47,488 --> 01:12:48,448
Thank you.

684
01:12:48,448 --> 01:12:55,167
I I don't think you'd like it, but I I was in heaven for all of those one hundred and thirty something minutes.

685
01:12:55,167 --> 01:12:55,648
Yeah.

686
01:12:55,648 --> 01:12:58,297
Wow. That sounds hideous.

687
01:12:59,279 --> 01:13:01,439
Did you say it was four K you said?

688
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,600
Uh Yeah.

689
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,520
Oh it's not a four K. Okay. I'm sorry.

690
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:12,409
Re resolution cannot n cannot capture uh the uh devil ant in all of its glory.

691
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:15,920
Brad, how about you? What's a what's a favorite you've seen this year?

692
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:22,359
Uh I I wanna spotlight Identikit from the House of Psychotic Women Rarities collection.

693
01:13:22,912 --> 01:13:31,439
Um it's a four movie set with Identikit, I like bats, footprints and the other side of the underneath. Uh Idenekit stars Elizabeth Taylor.

694
01:13:31,967 --> 01:13:36,528
Uh it's based on Miro Spark's book, The Driver's Seat. And I was

695
01:13:37,488 --> 01:13:47,087
It's got um his name escapes me because it's early. Um the the gentleman that did um footprints, the cinematography, um

696
01:13:47,568 --> 01:14:05,720
Starraro, thank you. Cinematography by Storaro, it's beautiful, just like you would expect. Elizabeth Taylor play uh it's it's a pretty risque part really for the time and for largest movie stars in the world, Elizabeth Taylor, uh, I would highly recommend

697
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:17,264
you seeking it out. I I would love to see them, I don't know if they did release it on a standalone. I don't think they did, but I would love to see somebody release it standalone. Although I must say it is very much of a a similar

698
01:14:17,264 --> 01:14:18,703
Yeah.

699
01:14:18,703 --> 01:14:26,974
uh or feeling as footprints and I think they do belong on the same set as far as that goes. But I I just love Denticate. I've seen it we've watched it twice now.

700
01:14:27,136 --> 01:14:35,055
Um, and Elizabeth bought the bonus, the big, the big to-do set, and it came with a scarf uh that Elizabeth Taylor wears in the film.

701
01:14:35,055 --> 01:14:41,246
Right, can I just ask you quickly, because I've had that box set like over a year and I keep putting off the other side of the underneath, what did you think of that?

702
01:14:41,663 --> 01:14:44,783
I can't r I don't think we watched it yet, to be honest with you.

703
01:14:44,783 --> 01:14:46,224
Yeah, it sounds pretty.

704
01:14:46,224 --> 01:14:51,984
country. It does, yes. Uh I like mats. I like I like mats. That was that was.

705
01:14:53,423 --> 01:14:57,807
Yeah, identiquate obviously footprints. I have not seen the other stuff underneath yet, so

706
01:14:58,287 --> 01:14:58,768
Yeah.

707
01:14:58,768 --> 01:15:10,608
I have seen that one. Um it's it's really good. Uh it is definitely more more more geared toward the art house crowd than you know, it's got elements of horror.

708
01:15:10,847 --> 01:15:24,047
To some degree. But it's not not quite as much. But the filmmaker's great and I think it's a it's a great film. Um I I watched her stuff when uh the BFI put out a bunch of her stuff years ago on Blu-ray and I watched it all and I thought it was all great.

709
01:15:24,416 --> 01:15:37,296
Yeah, it feels like films like if I want to give myself like a rather than paying I don't know like a hundred eighty two hundred quid or whatever it costs now for a therapist for like a couple of hours to put a film like that on.

710
01:15:37,296 --> 01:15:37,775
Yeah.

711
01:15:37,775 --> 01:15:38,256
Yeah.

712
01:15:38,256 --> 01:15:39,695
It feels like it would be that sort of movie.

713
01:15:39,695 --> 01:15:40,176
Yeah.

714
01:15:40,176 --> 01:15:41,136
Exactly.

715
01:15:41,136 --> 01:15:41,855
Nice.

716
01:15:42,528 --> 01:15:46,511
Yeah, uh favorite first time watch for me this year was one that had just kept

717
01:15:46,975 --> 01:15:57,648
avoiding me for years and and I think it might have gone out of print at some point. It might still be out of print. Little movie called Mirror Mirror from nineteen ninety. It's uh it's a very nice

718
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:08,528
uh very goth horror movie. The the lead actress is uh she th she's got the goth look down and it's a it feels more of an authentic

719
01:16:09,055 --> 01:16:23,279
kind of goth thing where she's you know, she shaved the sides of her head and she's got like just the not flashy style of goth. It's really cool. The movie is a supernatural horror movie that got way more zany than I was expecting.

720
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:37,967
It's goes so over the top and uh it tries to outdo itself with with wilder and wilder things. And yeah, I highly recommend if you haven't gotten to mirror mirror yet. I'm curious about the sequel. Is there sequel or sequels?

721
01:16:38,207 --> 01:16:39,887
There's at least one sequel.

722
01:16:39,887 --> 01:16:40,847
Definitely one six.

723
01:16:40,847 --> 01:16:42,287
Raven dance?

724
01:16:42,768 --> 01:16:52,944
Fun fact about Mirror Mirror, the uh screenwriters of this film are a uh a sister duo who um also wrote uh middle grade

725
01:16:53,503 --> 01:17:02,384
Horror novels in the 90s and and and some teen novels as well, if I'm not mistaken. Um, and they actually

726
01:17:02,591 --> 01:17:15,792
adapted the concept and some like elements of the plot of Mirror Mirror into a series horror book for middle grade children uh with the same name. It's also titled Mirror Mirror.

727
01:17:15,872 --> 01:17:19,952
Um, but skewed for kids and not quite as not quite as intense.

728
01:17:19,952 --> 01:17:20,912
Nice.

729
01:17:20,912 --> 01:17:22,112
Uh the film is.

730
01:17:22,112 --> 01:17:26,971
Now when you say when you say middle grade, do you mean like lesser quality children?

731
01:17:27,423 --> 01:17:34,863
No, no. Meaning between elementary and junior high high school. That's what I write for. Middle grade. Middle grade.

732
01:17:39,359 --> 01:17:42,239
I was a middle grade child.

733
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:43,899
I'm a middle grade adult.

734
01:17:45,855 --> 01:17:52,826
I'm just kidding, I'm lower grain. And finally, uh Travis asked three Italian gothic movies.

735
01:17:53,344 --> 01:17:56,224
Uh let's hear him, guys. Uh Mark, start us off.

736
01:17:57,887 --> 01:18:08,144
With the doll of Satan, uh which I absolutely love that film. Um it's uh nine nineteen sixty nine. Um La Bambo La di Satana.

737
01:18:08,608 --> 01:18:09,328
That's it.

738
01:18:09,328 --> 01:18:25,456
stripper name but it didn't work because it was just too hard to say and by the time they got it out my number was already over. Um uh for uh Casa Penita uh but I love that one. Um I also love um I hope I Kill baby kill.

739
01:18:25,456 --> 01:18:25,935
Oh yeah.

740
01:18:26,416 --> 01:18:38,000
Um I just find it incredible. It's from sixty six, Mario Bava with Erica Blank uh Blanc. Um just so much fun. I I love Kill Baby Kill. I remember the first time I saw it, I bought the Blu-ray and I was just like, what is

741
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:38,479
Is this

742
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:53,695
But then I had to watch it again because I there's just something about it in my mind. I'm like I can't I can't get this out of my head. So I had to watch it. And it's just there's something creepy about it, just kind of like gets under your skin, which I just found incredible. Um Last one.

743
01:18:54,176 --> 01:18:54,525
Of course.

744
01:18:56,847 --> 01:18:57,807
I do love Mickey.

745
01:18:57,807 --> 01:19:05,503
Hargate and I just thought it was a lot of fun. I um it's just so strange. Um 65, uh Massimo Pulp.

746
01:19:05,503 --> 01:19:07,184
Pupilo? Pupilio?

747
01:19:07,184 --> 01:19:07,663
Субтитры сделал DimaTorzok

748
01:19:07,663 --> 01:19:08,623
Um I just

749
01:19:08,623 --> 01:19:09,104
Uh

750
01:19:09,104 --> 01:19:10,783
Popilo. Yeah, just uh

751
01:19:11,743 --> 01:19:23,984
Mickey's costume is just great. He's a he's this got this weightlifter, but he's wearing that mask, and it's just so strange. Uh, and I love everything about it. It's just so weird and quirky. It's it's kind of fits me to a T. That's mine.

752
01:19:23,984 --> 01:19:24,463
So ordered

753
01:19:24,463 --> 01:19:24,764
Oily.

754
01:19:25,872 --> 01:19:28,560
Again, it fits me to a T.

755
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,880
How about you, Simon? What's some uh Italian gotz you got?

756
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:44,319
Sorry, give me a sec, I'm like rearranging my notes here and I've got them all modelled up now. Oh dear. Uh well the first one I can say because uh you beat me to it, Mark, but grey minds think alike, uh would be Kill Baby Kill which

757
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:56,863
I believe we covered for a Halloween episode some years ago. Uh I could have made this list all barvers, really. Yeah, by proxy, uh, we're talking other bars, stuff like the whip in the body, least from the devil.

758
01:19:58,144 --> 01:20:09,783
Sorry I forget now. Sorry, Travis who asked this question. Yeah. He opened a can of worms here. I started looking at lists of letterboxed lists, which uh there's someone called, I think it's it's Senior Ward.

759
01:20:10,431 --> 01:20:19,072
Who I think has is he the guy who um pseudonym of the guy who was the Geolo podcast still did? I don't know whether it's still current with uh Rachel Nisbet.

760
01:20:19,072 --> 01:20:22,202
Yeah, I think that's over, but yeah, that that sounds like him.

761
01:20:30,623 --> 01:20:44,015
Oh yeah. Books the the um yeah, and uh my God, let's say he opened a real can of worms with this question because it's like where do you draw the line? Talking gothic jallos and then you're talking about you could really drive people nuts, like for instance

762
01:20:44,368 --> 01:20:46,560
Talking about everybody's favorite Jalo Sysperia.

763
01:20:49,152 --> 01:20:56,720
Of course. But anyway, sorry, let's I'll I'll try and close that barrel of worms. So yeah, kill baby kill. Uh if I had to pick a barber. The ghost.

764
01:20:57,055 --> 01:21:11,024
Which you guys, I think, introduced me to. I haven't unwrapped the uh four K yet, but can't frickin' wait. Again by proxy horrible dot Hitchcock. Thank you, Brad, for s kindly sending me uh both the D V D and the Blu-ray of that, I think. And

765
01:21:11,503 --> 01:21:20,953
Yeah. Tri thank you. Yeah, and tragic ceremony and said before, God, this is just going to a list now, is it? Murder obsession again. You guys introduced me to our blind ball.

766
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:35,840
I had three more honorable mentions. I've got question marks on all of these because I'm not sure whether they count. Got like Inferno, the Beyond, the Beyond, is that more Southern Gothic? Or Southern Gothic as done I suppose by by a uh you know an Italian of course. Um

767
01:21:36,079 --> 01:21:40,032
And the arcane sorcerer as well, which that is

768
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:54,847
really needs a crying out for a wide release. But the last one, if I was picking the three, so it's g my three, so I've rambled on a bit, would be Kill Baby Kill, um, the Ghost and Death Smiles and the Murderer, which you guys have covered in depth, so I don't need to say any more on that one.

769
01:21:55,119 --> 01:21:56,319
Nice.

770
01:21:56,319 --> 01:21:57,760
Thank you for introducing me to and

771
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,279
Well how about you, Jeffrey?

772
01:21:59,568 --> 01:22:08,768
So I also had Kill Bab Baby Kill. I had Death Smiles on a Murderer. Yes. Um so I'm gonna replace those with Toby Dammit from Spirits. Oh.

773
01:22:09,247 --> 01:22:09,728
Yeah.

774
01:22:09,728 --> 01:22:19,688
Love that one. I mean the whole movie's good, but we know that's the best one. And then lastly, uh Mill of the Stone Women uh is a big time favorite of mine. Love that one so much.

775
01:22:20,336 --> 01:22:21,536
So good.

776
01:22:21,536 --> 01:22:34,576
I heard um Tim Lucas say once, I don't know what you guys think of this, that there's an argument to be made that Toby Dammit might be the greatest hour of Italian horror ever made. And it's hard to sort of pin it down to something, but he might be onto something.

777
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,311
Tim Lucas, like he knows anything, you know, come on.

778
01:22:38,655 --> 01:22:41,055
He only wrote a whole book about it.

779
01:22:41,055 --> 01:22:41,536
Yeah.

780
01:22:42,015 --> 01:22:45,855
Who knows? Deadly. That young kid still coming around, yeah.

781
01:22:47,119 --> 01:22:50,000
Brad, how about you? What's some what's some Italian gothicals?

782
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:55,119
Sure, I've got um the horrible secret of Doctor Hitchcock or the horrible Dr. Hitchcock.

783
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:08,351
Don't put a T in it. Put a T on your back. Um I've also got the ghost, so I just absolutely love Ricardo Fredo. Uh I don't have this new Blu-ray of the ghost. I don't look gonna have to No wait, I do. I see it.

784
01:23:08,591 --> 01:23:23,231
Yeah, I've got it. So I'm really looking forward to debuting that uh when the time is right. Well I went with a baba'cause I don't think you can leave out a baba, but it's not the baba that you think it is. I also picked Lisa and the Devil. It is my favorite Baba horror film. You know, obviously.

785
01:23:23,503 --> 01:23:37,887
Um Black Sun Black Sunday could have could have gone in there. But yes, Lisa and the Devil, um, I believe it's I believe it's uh your favorite Baba as well, uh, Richard, if I don't if I don't remember correctly. Yeah. And um

786
01:23:38,448 --> 01:23:52,192
J just a wonderful, wonderful film. I mean, Middle of the Stone Women, That Smiles on Murder, all I mean, all the pics that we've got. Some of the marks I've not seen. The uh the doll of Satan, I haven't seen that.

787
01:23:52,688 --> 01:23:56,768
And the one that was your stripper name, I haven't seen that one either. Uh but I

788
01:23:56,768 --> 01:24:01,967
That was the doll of Satan. It's really fun. You should find it. I I highly recommend the doll of Satan. It's very fun.

789
01:24:02,384 --> 01:24:09,792
Absolutely taken under consideration and I I think I've got a copy somewhere, I'm not sure, but uh just solid picks from everybody.

790
01:24:10,287 --> 01:24:15,520
I agree. I agree. Um, I'm gonna replace one of mine because of course it was kill baby kill.

791
01:24:15,952 --> 01:24:26,623
Uh I'm gonna replace that one with a Italian-Spanish co-production called Scream of the Demon Lover, which is um a a sexy little

792
01:24:26,895 --> 01:24:45,676
Goth movie that came out like after the the classy stuff. So it was in between like the really trashy ones and the classy black and white days. Uh, but it's it's really good. There's some uh some bondage themes, which is what I pursue in my life.

793
01:24:46,992 --> 01:24:53,231
And I picked uh Terror Creatures from the Grave. Absolutely love it.

794
01:24:54,448 --> 01:25:06,047
I don't know if it's bad or b or boring or people don't care about it. I just absolutely have always loved that one. It's definitely one of Barbara Steele's lesser ones that she did.

795
01:25:06,735 --> 01:25:16,265
But I just really, really, really love it. And um last but not least is uh for me the the long hair of death. I

796
01:25:17,167 --> 01:25:29,997
love that movie so much. It is just like it scares me. Like it's actually like weirdly like a suffocating vibe vibe that like really traps you. And I just absolutely adore it.

797
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,463
And my runner up is Ernest goes to jail.

798
01:25:35,152 --> 01:25:35,712
It's true.

799
01:25:36,239 --> 01:25:40,735
Brad, you need to watch that, seriously, just for the pen scene. Watch the pen scene.

800
01:25:40,735 --> 01:25:45,055
That is easily the most gothic of the Ernest franchise.

801
01:25:45,055 --> 01:25:52,608
Well, I'm not sure why I haven't seen it. But like I said, my mom took me to s to see Saves Christmas. Uhhuh.

802
01:25:53,568 --> 01:25:58,377
Artist Goes to Camp was a huge hit amongst my adolescent set.

803
01:25:59,391 --> 01:26:05,631
Absolutely. And I I like Jim Barney. He's relatively local guy. Um Took something.

804
01:26:05,631 --> 01:26:06,591
And made something out of it.

805
01:26:07,551 --> 01:26:14,792
Genius. Thank you again, Travis, uh, for writing in for for calling in. I always glad to hear from you, sir.

806
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:25,130
This is uh famed director Werner Husak. Uh I've made many movies and uh documentaries.

807
01:26:25,775 --> 01:26:30,047
I think maybe you've might have covered one of my movies or perhaps not.

808
01:26:30,768 --> 01:26:44,908
Maybe one with Klaus Kinsky. Anyway, I'm taking this time to say congratulations on making it two three hundred episodes of Hello This is the Doomed Show.

809
01:26:45,775 --> 01:26:57,996
despite the cold calculations of a uncaring universe, this is so immense that mankind is merely a drop of small water in an ocean of indifference.

810
01:26:58,703 --> 01:27:08,960
you, Richard, and your merry band of co hosts have endeavoured to persevere through the short years you have to live in disfert.

811
01:27:10,256 --> 01:27:11,743
And that is commendable.

812
01:27:12,783 --> 01:27:25,703
Uh I will say that much like when I had to deal with Klaskinsky, you have dealt with much, much difficulty in your lives, and you have persevered

813
01:27:26,192 --> 01:27:39,007
admirably. But um I will say this you have covered many movies in your hilarious podcasts that I will never watch because I've never heard of them.

814
01:27:39,792 --> 01:27:42,847
But I am glad to be a elu lucidated.

815
01:27:43,536 --> 01:27:47,104
by uh your podcast on things that I've missed.

816
01:27:48,752 --> 01:27:59,372
You know, life is too short, and soon I will be taken by the dark veil of death, so I spend my time having copious amounts of sex.

817
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:09,855
and injecting fentanyl into my eyeballs. Anyway, peace out, bitches. Keep on doing the great work. Herzog out.

818
01:28:10,671 --> 01:28:24,171
And then we had a second only to Lietta in terms of celebrity appearances on the show. We heard from the great Werner Herzog. Oh my god.

819
01:28:24,783 --> 01:28:27,423
I couldn't believe it. Doctor still can't believe it.

820
01:28:27,423 --> 01:28:41,823
Yeah, it's crazy. His manager, his his handler's name is Lee, and I appreciate Lee for making that happen. Lee is a part of the wonderful podcast called They Must Be Destroyed on Site.

821
01:28:42,448 --> 01:28:48,207
So go seek them out. And uh I he pulled some strings to get us Verna calling in.

822
01:28:48,207 --> 01:28:53,408
Man, I like how you put fame director behind his name. So we'd know.

823
01:28:53,408 --> 01:28:57,247
I just wanted to be real'cause that's what he has he identifies himself.

824
01:28:57,247 --> 01:29:00,207
No, it was great. It was great.

825
01:29:01,423 --> 01:29:02,863
Am I the Kinsky?

826
01:29:03,823 --> 01:29:04,543
Oh.

827
01:29:04,543 --> 01:29:05,743
Plause.

828
01:29:06,224 --> 01:29:10,793
Because I have I have the same body type, so I thought maybe I'm the Kinski.

829
01:29:11,792 --> 01:29:16,351
Is there photos of him on his deathbed? I might have his his body type when he was dying.

830
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,039
Mm.

831
01:29:19,039 --> 01:29:21,680
I'm I'm sorry, I'm just I'm still speechless after that.

832
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:23,630
Yeah.

833
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,960
Oh yeah.

834
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:31,039
Wrath of God. What do you think?

835
01:29:31,039 --> 01:29:34,399
They pulled a mountain over I mean a boat over a mountain.

836
01:29:34,399 --> 01:29:35,600
No, it's Fitz Carol.

837
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:36,319
Yeah.

838
01:29:36,319 --> 01:29:38,460
I've seen Fitzcaraldo.

839
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,600
Oh well, yeah.

840
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,039
He throws the monkey.

841
01:29:43,039 --> 01:29:43,520
Yeah.

842
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:50,479
He gives the monkey a little kiss on the head and says, Good monkey, go do your thing.

843
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:58,170
All right. We have some wonderful, wonderful um written letters. We got lots of letters from folks.

844
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,912
So I'm gonna read some some uh

845
01:30:01,471 --> 01:30:05,680
Stuff from us from us. From some people. We didn't write our own feedback, I promise.

846
01:30:06,207 --> 01:30:15,055
Uh first up is from Ray, and uh Ray has some uh things to say about um our blood and lace, which Brad and I will have to answer for. So he says.

847
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:26,671
Long time listener here, but he says, Richard, I wanted to say that I also prefer my hot dogs burnt to a crisp on the outside. Great minds with questionable taste think alike.

848
01:30:27,104 --> 01:30:38,479
This is true. I still love to to cook a hot dog until it almost doesn't resemble a hot dog anymore. And he also says, uh when discussing the twist ending of uh blood and lace,

849
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:53,199
He wondered why we forgot to mention the real life gossipy love life and marriage history of Gloria Graham. The film doesn't exactly mirror it per se, but leans toward it in a similar way. Art imitates life.

850
01:30:53,503 --> 01:30:57,583
sort of a way. Brad, do we did we didn't talk about that? I didn't think about that.

851
01:30:57,583 --> 01:31:08,880
No, it's it's a sad story. Um and I like Lori Graham. That might be on my end while we Um if if I remember correctly, nutshelling it, um

852
01:31:09,503 --> 01:31:15,264
She had younger paramours through at the end of her life. Is that right? Am I thinking right?

853
01:31:16,463 --> 01:31:20,064
I should probably s not speak when I don't know what I'm talking about.

854
01:31:22,287 --> 01:31:22,847
Stop saying.

855
01:31:23,359 --> 01:31:29,423
that she died relatively young and it was a sad story. She's wonderful in the in all the things that I've seen her in

856
01:31:29,423 --> 01:31:33,967
Oh, totally. And like when she's intimidating, she's really intimidating.

857
01:31:33,967 --> 01:31:52,752
Absolutely. No, she was definitely somebody she was like a a a powerful woman, kinda like um Not not it doesn't remind me of her, but sort of like a Barbara Stanwyck or a Lupino, somebody that that you could think of back then that was that was a strong, tough, independent lady.

858
01:31:53,311 --> 01:31:59,072
But uh Ray says, thanks for all you do and congrats on Happy Three Hundred. Thank you, sir.

859
01:31:59,551 --> 01:32:00,351
Thank you very much.

860
01:32:01,055 --> 01:32:02,735
All right, we got LonelyBob.

861
01:32:03,136 --> 01:32:17,264
aka Kevin and this guy took over the reins of Legion Podcasts when uh Bo stepped down from running the show. So thank you Lonely Bob for keeping Legion Podcast going. And he says, hey, H to Ditch.

862
01:32:17,568 --> 01:32:26,927
Gang, congratulations on the 300-episode milestone. Thank you for being a member of Legion Podcasts Network and bringing, hold on, back of the napkin math.

863
01:32:27,328 --> 01:32:37,807
If each episode is one hour long, that means 3,000 hours of entertainment. Or in other words, 125 days of listening. But we all need to sleep, right?

864
01:32:38,271 --> 01:32:47,376
So heck, we'll round it up to one year enjoyment to listeners' ears. Congratulations again and cheers to the next one hundred episodes.

865
01:32:47,967 --> 01:32:57,376
Very kind. You recently mentioned we were talking about Legion podcasts and you mentioned it. I thought you were describing Bob, not naming him, but you were naming him.

866
01:32:57,376 --> 01:32:58,815
I did it, I did it.

867
01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:00,159
Thank you, Bob.

868
01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:08,159
And uh we've got a longtime listener, good friend of the show, named Mark. Mark, this isn't from you, this is from Mark.

869
01:33:08,895 --> 01:33:10,832
Right, I did not write this.

870
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:24,189
Uh so Mark says, congratulations on episode 300. I love hello, this is the Doomed Show, and I am very thankful for all that you, your fellow hosts and guests have done to create such a wonderful podcast.

871
01:33:24,576 --> 01:33:34,336
Over the years you have introduced me to many films that I now cherish and you have deepened my appreciation for movies that I already loved. On top of all that, your show is fun and enjoyable.

872
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:48,368
So thank you very much for Hellos of the Doomed Show, your correspondence, and for covering movies that I suggested. I'll be forever grateful that you did an episode on my beloved mortuary from 1983, and you did several more than that. It means a lot.

873
01:33:48,640 --> 01:34:02,975
You duders are awesome. Best wishes, Mark. Thank you, Mark. Thank you for just continuing to be one of the the most wonderful people. I mean, we love all our fans, but Mark really is someone that reached out to us and is just a super cool guy.

874
01:34:02,975 --> 01:34:04,655
Just a wonderful guy.

875
01:34:04,655 --> 01:34:05,615
It's not me.

876
01:34:06,576 --> 01:34:08,256
It's not Mark, it's Mark.

877
01:34:08,256 --> 01:34:12,336
Yeah, I got confused about uh for a while until sorry Brad, come.

878
01:34:13,631 --> 01:34:21,551
You know, a bit like the possibility of there being more than one person who has the same luggage, that two people could have the same phone the first name.

879
01:34:22,032 --> 01:34:23,742
Richard had to kinda set me straight on that.

880
01:34:24,095 --> 01:34:29,376
Yeah, sorry about that. Uh that's why we all got the the matching tattoos.

881
01:34:30,336 --> 01:34:33,305
No, Mortuary was awesome.

882
01:34:33,792 --> 01:34:38,992
I love it. I love that movie so much. That was one of those movies that I really thought I had seen.

883
01:34:39,359 --> 01:34:50,399
And I I was I was mixing it up with uh I think it was One Dark Knight was the one I mixed it up with for years. And finally watching Mortuary was just jaw dropping. It's so good. It's a party movie.

884
01:34:50,399 --> 01:34:51,130
Certainly.

885
01:34:51,551 --> 01:35:04,623
All right. And uh finally we have a a a new listener, first time writer in here, named Fred Dreadful. And this is from Fred. It says, hello, your podcast is delightful. In fact, we're parasocial friends.

886
01:35:04,927 --> 01:35:10,832
You're just the half that doesn't know about it. Anyway, here are a few suggestions for the upcoming three hundredth episode.

887
01:35:11,167 --> 01:35:23,952
Uh starter pack of Giallo films. My experience is limited to Argento and Fulci and I'd like to dive headlong into the incomprehensible, sleazy end of the genre. Suggestions on the wildest films to start with would be appreciated.

888
01:35:24,384 --> 01:35:43,024
Um next up he says it would be great if you covered Quartermas mini series 1979, a bizarro fusion of folk horror and dystopian science fiction. I like Uh I like Hammer's Quartermas movies as much as the next guy, but this series is creepy AF with a finale that cuts to the bone.

889
01:35:43,391 --> 01:35:50,960
And last, uh, Fred says it's a bit off topic, but any music recommendations, particularly metal or punk, kind regards, Fred.

890
01:35:51,423 --> 01:36:00,752
So um real quick, I'll do my Giallo. Three Giallo I tell people to watch who want to get into it. Case of the bloody iris.

891
01:36:01,184 --> 01:36:13,296
Perfect place to start. Next up would be uh seven bloodstained orchids. Uh the movies a miracle and sticking with uh Lindsay, do eyeball. Gotta do gotta do eyeball.

892
01:36:13,872 --> 01:36:16,752
What about you, uh Mark? What's some giallo you would recommend?

893
01:36:16,752 --> 01:36:25,391
So you took eyeball from me because I absolutely love eyeballs so much. Um I also really like the Red Queen Kill Seven Times.

894
01:36:25,391 --> 01:36:26,832
Mm-hmm.

895
01:36:26,832 --> 01:36:30,880
Um and then um did we did you say death walks in high heels?

896
01:36:32,079 --> 01:36:33,609
Okay, I like that one too because

897
01:36:34,351 --> 01:36:43,231
I like high heels and I kind of consider myself deadly. Um, so and then Suspiria, before anyone else takes Suspiria, I want to call Suspiria. That's my favorite GL.

898
01:36:46,064 --> 01:36:48,703
Does the night Evelyn came out of the grave with that count?

899
01:36:48,703 --> 01:36:50,623
Oh yeah.

900
01:36:50,623 --> 01:36:53,543
Okay, then I want to throw that in there too'cause I love that one so much.

901
01:36:54,543 --> 01:36:55,743
Besides Desperia.

902
01:36:58,416 --> 01:37:01,055
Sispiri is my favorite uh creamy.

903
01:37:02,256 --> 01:37:03,935
Oh oh oh that's right, it's a friendly.

904
01:37:03,935 --> 01:37:05,855
Oh now you're gonna split hairs.

905
01:37:05,855 --> 01:37:07,275
Cool.

906
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:09,439
Trying to start something here.

907
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,340
Oh my god, Simon, what about you?

908
01:37:11,663 --> 01:37:17,728
So yeah, I have a blist I'll just try and rattle through. Um I can't believe I didn't put seven bliss orchids on it.

909
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:28,479
So he was saying also did he say wanted wild and sleazy and incomprehensible ones? Yeah. These all I think maybe have a bit of those. Uh so if strip nude for your killer.

910
01:37:28,591 --> 01:37:40,832
Oh, this is very out by the way, and I'll raise this in your general direction. I've just poured and it is past five o'clock by the way, so I'm not gonna feel guilty about this. Uh raising a glass of J and B in your general direction while we discuss uh Jelly. Cheers.

911
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,399
I'm drinking it's morning, so you don't have anything to tell us for.

912
01:37:46,399 --> 01:37:52,359
It's always five o'clock somewhere. Yep. You know, you're excused. Strip me if you kill her.

913
01:37:52,944 --> 01:37:55,104
Tosso eyeball

914
01:37:55,104 --> 01:37:56,873
Gotta have a Martino in there.

915
01:37:57,296 --> 01:38:11,872
Oh yeah, of course, yeah, and that is um that is my go-to, definitely. Eyeball, Case of the Bloody Iris, Nothing Underneath, Too Beautiful to Die, Delirium Photo Oh or Photos of Goya, whatever the hell the title is.

916
01:38:12,304 --> 01:38:22,207
Uh autopsy, which uh I was thinking about recently because and I always feel bad complaining about the weather to you guys'cause you have I don't know how it is uh where you you're base smart.

917
01:38:22,832 --> 01:38:31,680
Uh, but we're just when it gets to like even in the early to mid twenties, I just can't cope and we're all in like brick houses with no air conditioning.

918
01:38:32,304 --> 01:38:33,024
So we have

919
01:38:33,024 --> 01:38:34,463
He won't use too well.

920
01:38:34,463 --> 01:38:35,594
It it's just sorry.

921
01:38:36,079 --> 01:38:49,311
Yes. No, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's totally that way here too. We have all the windows open and it's it's yeah. It went from like we're wearing winter coats yesterday and now we're all in shorts and and like t shirts. It's so weird. But yeah, with no AC.

922
01:38:49,311 --> 01:38:49,582
Yeah.

923
01:38:49,904 --> 01:39:01,184
Yeah, it's completely bipolar, but again, I I feel bad to complain about it. So I remember listening to I forget what episode it was, Richard and I covered where we were sitting about weather in Florida in December, where he has that trajectory, but within a day.

924
01:39:01,184 --> 01:39:02,144
It's true.

925
01:39:02,144 --> 01:39:03,104
That's so hideous.

926
01:39:03,104 --> 01:39:13,104
I just feel like such a wuss for complaining about it. But anyway, it made me think of autopsy because that's the ultimate like heat wave jello, you know, just where the heat's making everyone lose their minds and it's sleazy and crazy as fuck.

927
01:39:13,551 --> 01:39:23,872
Uh the killer in it Zev Nine Seats. Yeah, Brad, you kindly sent me my first DVD of that and that is a favourite. I nearly put it in a list of Gothic films as well actually because that's sort of Gothic Jalo.

928
01:39:23,872 --> 01:39:24,351
Vielen Dank.

929
01:39:24,351 --> 01:39:26,601
My final one, which would be murder obsession.

930
01:39:27,247 --> 01:39:28,207
Bye-bye.

931
01:39:28,927 --> 01:39:33,007
Sorry, uh boring the joke off Brad and Richard. Is it Barn?

932
01:39:33,488 --> 01:39:35,408
Oh yeah, Bam or Barn.

933
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:40,399
Anything works really. Just throw it in there.

934
01:39:40,399 --> 01:39:43,050
Jeffrey, what's some uh what's some giallo you got?

935
01:39:43,408 --> 01:39:50,239
So I focused on like the wild and unusual aspect'cause obviously like you could definitely have a a list of um

936
01:39:50,448 --> 01:39:59,328
You know, the like these are the ones that you should watch to like understand what a what a jalo is. I chose ones that like will confuse you about.

937
01:39:59,328 --> 01:39:59,807
What is it?

938
01:39:59,807 --> 01:40:05,257
And they're all ones that we love, but again, they sort of like stretch the definition a little bit.

939
01:40:05,456 --> 01:40:19,104
um in unusual directions. So things like The Red Queen Kill Seven Times, uh Delirium, nineteen seventy two, uh House of the Laughing Windows, The Dead Are Alive, Footprints on the Moon. Again, all I think we would say jollow, but

940
01:40:19,408 --> 01:40:31,648
Weird jallo uh and certainly wild and unexpected. And we'll, you know, expand your right from the get go, expand your definition of what a jallo can be. So that soon you'll be saying, Yes, Aspirious is Jallo, of course it does.

941
01:40:33,359 --> 01:40:36,239
Oh, I wish I'd done footprint and that is my jam right there.

942
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:41,420
I'd laid money, the Geoffrey would have said in the folds of the flesh.

943
01:40:41,807 --> 01:40:46,368
That one absolutely it's there. Put it in. It's one of those

944
01:40:46,368 --> 01:40:47,818
I thought you were gonna say fatal frames.

945
01:40:48,319 --> 01:40:55,279
I mean I also considered it, but in a lot of ways that one is kind of a traditional uh shallow, more or less.

946
01:40:55,279 --> 01:40:56,239
Yeah.

947
01:40:56,239 --> 01:41:00,800
Except for this one like, you know, a black hole in the center of it.

948
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,720
Brad, what are what are some gios?

949
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:11,710
I mean you guys have hit a lot of the classics. Eyeball is something that I would have said, Eyeball is a crowd pleaser, it's a perfect Saturday afternoon film.

950
01:41:11,967 --> 01:41:20,368
Uh the strange bison, Mrs. Ward. Uh I would also say All Colors of the Dark, just because that's my favorite Martino Giallo, all the colors of the dark and

951
01:41:20,368 --> 01:41:21,807
Oh yeah, the same.

952
01:41:21,807 --> 01:41:27,055
So so wacky and uh but any of his are fantastic, obviously.

953
01:41:27,391 --> 01:41:42,287
Uh I don't I don't immediately go to Argento and Fulci when I think of Gialli. I don't know that I'm not sure that everyone does uh after you get into them, but Martino is who I typically think of. But no, you guys have, you know, obviously seven blood student orchids, case of bloody iris.

954
01:41:42,688 --> 01:41:51,055
Those are all just they're hits. Eyeball, like I said, eyeball was one of the first movies that Richard sent me. I had exhausted retail giality.

955
01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:58,159
And so he sent me some choice films and I I'll always love eyeball just for that reason, not to mention the

956
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,979
It it's a great film, it just is. It's a great gel. It's a lot of fun.

957
01:42:02,304 --> 01:42:09,456
Nice, nice. Um, as for um Fred's question about uh quarter mass, the mini-series, I've definitely never seen that.

958
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:18,619
Um, I have only seen one quartermass film. I've been very bad about checking out that series of films.

959
01:42:18,975 --> 01:42:20,655
I've seen all three quite arrests.

960
01:42:20,655 --> 01:42:23,536
Yeah, I love the Quator I love the Quator Mass films.

961
01:42:23,536 --> 01:42:24,256
Yeah.

962
01:42:24,256 --> 01:42:27,996
He described them to a T. They are very creepy and kind of get under your skin, I think.

963
01:42:28,448 --> 01:42:34,895
I see only one I haven't actually seen. Uh that's season like late seventies with John Mills. Um I've seen the

964
01:42:35,456 --> 01:42:43,615
Did it predate the um first films, the Tv the black and white TV serial? I've seen that. So I've seen all of them I think aside from that one, but it has been on my radar for years.

965
01:42:44,863 --> 01:42:46,064
Um and

966
01:42:46,064 --> 01:43:00,207
I have a quick aside if that's okay. I I'm gonna go back to the the Giallos.'Cause a lot of times people I think they just watch films on their own. They don't watch'em with others. But if you're like at a family event, you you know, you have kids and your grandparents, go for Giallo in Venice. That

967
01:43:00,688 --> 01:43:06,688
But that's the one you want to watch with everyone you love and it'll be a litmus test to see who actually likes you when it's over.

968
01:43:06,688 --> 01:43:08,847
You wouldn't you want to get cut out of a will, yeah.

969
01:43:08,847 --> 01:43:09,627
Yeah.

970
01:43:09,984 --> 01:43:22,768
Oh, I would say uh obvio uh not obviously, but I would say once you uh get into Gi Alley, I would start looking into American films that were influenced by Gi Alley because there's a very nice rich

971
01:43:23,247 --> 01:43:37,136
those as well, dress to kill. I won't even go through'em. Let him discover'em on his own. But uh but yeah, there's lots of American films that are Giallo inspired. I would go so far as to call them American Giallo's. Uh uh people you

972
01:43:37,408 --> 01:43:42,927
people get all butthurt about Giallo is Simon has made an absolute living

973
01:43:42,927 --> 01:43:43,408
Продолжение следует...

974
01:43:43,408 --> 01:43:46,648
Продолжение следует...

975
01:43:47,264 --> 01:43:59,760
My other one that I I've sort of memed slightly to death was uh Friday the thirteenth. And I did a post when I was still blogging about American Jelly and I just'cause of the Who Done It aspects, I did talk a bit about Friday the thirteenth with it.

976
01:43:59,935 --> 01:44:05,456
And it is it is stretching stretching at the edges of it. I I completely admit that. But um

977
01:44:05,935 --> 01:44:09,595
Disagree. I think throw it in there. I think it's thank you.

978
01:44:10,176 --> 01:44:24,944
Sadly the the the nice ties group is less active than he used to be on uh on good old uh Facebook. We used to really give him what for with Simon. I I would he would s Simon, you would send me something. I'm like, Oh my god, please send that to his group, please.

979
01:44:25,423 --> 01:44:26,623
That's so good.

980
01:44:26,623 --> 01:44:35,264
Items of bottles of Gi uh bottles of Gi Alli. Bottles of J and B in all kinds of different shows and then um and then claims it to be Gi Alli.

981
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:39,359
And C I S G Alley.

982
01:44:40,671 --> 01:44:48,112
I think you sent me one with the from probably like the X Files, but it's not Jane B, it's like Jane P or something, which sounds well, but instead of the green bottle.

983
01:44:49,072 --> 01:44:54,072
Oh, and um Fred asked about some um music recommendations, punk and metal.

984
01:44:54,623 --> 01:44:56,655
I already responded to him with a huge list.

985
01:44:57,184 --> 01:45:04,431
huge list of stuff and in email. So I'm just gonna pick one. Uh and that that's uh uh'cause I'm an old thrash head.

986
01:45:04,735 --> 01:45:19,536
Uh Hex H E X X morbid reality is the album. It is one of those quintessential thrash albums that I strongly recommend. Uh do you guys got any other albums for Fred, Mark?

987
01:45:19,536 --> 01:45:25,975
But as far as metal goes, I'm that's not really something that is in my ouvre. So I guess I would say banana rama.

988
01:45:26,271 --> 01:45:34,671
Um and as far as punk, I guess the punky go would be Susie and the Banshees. I don't even know if that's punk anymore, but I I'm a huge Suzy fan.

989
01:45:34,671 --> 01:45:35,261
Oh it worked.

990
01:45:35,935 --> 01:45:42,176
So yeah. But I'm sorry as as far as the thresh metal, that's I don't know. I couldn't even I would I'd be lying if I told you I even knew.

991
01:45:42,176 --> 01:45:44,095
I would love to hear you try.

992
01:45:44,095 --> 01:45:46,256
I know all about thrash metal.

993
01:45:47,695 --> 01:45:49,655
I'm yeah, no, I'm sorry, I don't.

994
01:45:50,431 --> 01:45:52,591
Simon, you got any music recommends?

995
01:45:52,591 --> 01:46:00,752
For metal and punk, even though you know I grew up with a lot of metal stuff, I'm not really the person to ask and it'd all be very, very obvious stuff. Uh

996
01:46:00,752 --> 01:46:01,231
I didn't.

997
01:46:02,847 --> 01:46:11,984
I'd say that isn't an answer, but echoing Mark's saying about Banana or Amor. Uh as if you guys know I'm completely obsessed with Boards of Canada. Special Ships is finally a fucking new album coming.

998
01:46:12,463 --> 01:46:22,159
Um, from what I've heard of like the first well one of the the single they dropped and the reports about these listening parties yesterday, that might almost be metal. It sounds like it's gonna be really dark.

999
01:46:22,591 --> 01:46:32,815
Uh but no, that's not really an answer. That's just me channeling some of my enthusiasm for that. Uh but okay, a metal one that I do go back to a bit more at the moment because I am more into

1000
01:46:33,503 --> 01:46:47,804
Like electronica and film music would maybe be someone like sleep. Like I often joke, you know, that one track they did what is it called Dopesmoker, that's just like an hour long track. Say when I'm lacking sleep, I'll just put that on and a repeat for a few hours. Uh but no, that's all I got. So

1001
01:46:48,416 --> 01:46:49,359
How about you, Jeffrey?

1002
01:46:49,695 --> 01:46:57,615
Uh yeah, I'm not really a a a punker or a metalhead, um uh but I will recommend uh a couple things outside.

1003
01:46:58,239 --> 01:47:10,479
that um nevertheless maybe carry some of the same sensibility, um, particularly in wanting to mess up and play around with your ears. Uh so I would go with uh throbbing gristle and uh coil.

1004
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:24,207
Check those out. See see how you feel at the end. And and a connection there. Uh at one point, Steven Thrower, our beloved Stephen Thrower, was a member of the band Coil in one of its many, many incarnations.

1005
01:47:24,576 --> 01:47:31,055
When did was he part of they did like an uh soundtrack for Hellraiser that was rejected or something?

1006
01:47:31,055 --> 01:47:37,496
And it's really good. It's getting a vinyl reissue in like its ultimate form uh pretty soon. And it's so good.

1007
01:47:37,695 --> 01:47:42,496
Yeah. I I like his new thing that he does called uh Unique Azern.

1008
01:47:43,216 --> 01:47:44,176
pronouncing that correctly.

1009
01:47:44,176 --> 01:47:44,655
Okay.

1010
01:47:44,655 --> 01:47:49,456
Uh it's a duo that uh Steven Thrower does. That shit's freaking harsh and like beautiful.

1011
01:47:49,456 --> 01:47:50,365
Yeah, nice.

1012
01:47:51,872 --> 01:47:52,761
Hey Brad, how about you?

1013
01:47:53,439 --> 01:48:01,648
Well, as a child, I owned Metallica's Black Album on cassette, so I consider myself to be a metal authority. Um

1014
01:48:02,112 --> 01:48:12,880
No, I don't I don't listen to metal. Uh I'm an indie rock and indie pop guy. I mean I like a lot of different genres, but you know, I love the Twee bands, uh Sarah Records.

1015
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:13,840
The smith.

1016
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:17,050
Um uh in a shoe gaze

1017
01:48:17,663 --> 01:48:23,503
Uh as far as punk goes, there's a band. Um they're from the UK. They're called the Clash.

1018
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:39,600
No, I'm just kidding. Uh they are. But uh no. As far as punk goes, punk had such a wide umbrella, sort of like we were talking about. Yeah, you know, I consider early Elvis Costello punk, uh, and I would check out His second album

1019
01:48:40,095 --> 01:48:54,256
this year's uh model that as far as uh very uh upbeat pop rock, but also with just a very uh snot delivery. I don't think people I think some people don't listen to the words as much as they should.

1020
01:48:54,783 --> 01:48:55,728
But no, I

1021
01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:02,399
I'm not a I don't listen to metal. I'm sure I have no doubt that you sent him some very good recommendations, Richard.

1022
01:49:02,399 --> 01:49:15,695
Oh, you know. And I went out I went way outside the the box too, sending them like Terramellos and Gorilla Toss. I'm a big Gorilla Toss uh fan. Yeah, that I sent him some some eclectic things.

1023
01:49:16,127 --> 01:49:23,055
But uh, you know, I could still jump back into the old metalhead days from when I was fifteen within a second.

1024
01:49:23,423 --> 01:49:38,127
And, you know, punk a punk album that I l I listened to and I still can't believe it's real is uh Crass is uh feeding of the five thousand. I I go back to that and just can't believe I listened to that.

1025
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:43,920
And then still got into ska. Like I really I hurt myself.

1026
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:45,840
I was gonna mention stall.

1027
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,420
I set myself back apace.

1028
01:49:47,935 --> 01:49:53,456
by uh by getting into ska and making it my whole personality. And now I want those years back.

1029
01:49:53,456 --> 01:49:54,176
Gracias.

1030
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,000
I mean you're a two-ton guy

1031
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,847
No, I know. Thank you for noticing.

1032
01:50:02,287 --> 01:50:11,439
All right. So before we go, um, I know Mark has a game for us. Mark, what is and and Brad has a uh a question time for us.

1033
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:12,880
Oh I have a game too.

1034
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:17,568
Oh wow, we got two games. All right, let's do this. Shit. Mark, let's bring let's do Mark's game.

1035
01:50:17,568 --> 01:50:19,728
Oh, are you sure? Okay. All right.

1036
01:50:19,728 --> 01:50:20,207
Yeah.

1037
01:50:20,207 --> 01:50:25,528
So the way this works is I have uh you get to choose between A and B.

1038
01:50:25,887 --> 01:50:39,568
Uh and they have a title to kind of help you with it, but choose wisely. Okay. And then once one has been picked, it drops out and then the other person will have a repeat question or choice and then a new choice. Does that kind of make sense?

1039
01:50:40,032 --> 01:50:40,752
Yes.

1040
01:50:40,752 --> 01:50:47,872
Okay. All right, here we go. Um I'll start I'll just go from the bottom up if that's okay. So Simon, I'll start with you if that's okay. Okay.

1041
01:50:48,608 --> 01:50:53,967
So A is Chucky's Angels or B is Mother Make It Stop.

1042
01:50:54,528 --> 01:50:57,887
So A Chucky's Angels or B Mother Make It Stop.

1043
01:50:57,887 --> 01:50:59,807
I chuck his angels.

1044
01:50:59,807 --> 01:51:06,967
Alright, so that tiny tear from the Child's Play franchise has opened up his own agency of Killer Queens for hire.

1045
01:51:07,583 --> 01:51:09,935
Which three women of horror will make the cut?

1046
01:51:11,039 --> 01:51:11,760
So you get to

1047
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:12,479
Three

1048
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:13,199
Female.

1049
01:51:16,256 --> 01:51:17,695
for this agency.

1050
01:51:17,695 --> 01:51:26,015
Okay, well, one, I'm gonna bring back uh Christine Lease from Childsplay 2. Uh say

1051
01:51:27,072 --> 01:51:34,752
Jill Scholin as well. Um I can't. I'm gonna I'm just the first off the top of my head so I'm gonna overthink this otherwise and Heather Langenkamp.

1052
01:51:35,712 --> 01:51:36,431
Awesome.

1053
01:51:36,912 --> 01:51:40,381
Ooh, Heather. All right, thank you. All right. So Brad.

1054
01:51:41,376 --> 01:51:48,528
So you get to choose between A mother make it stop or B the facts of life read.

1055
01:51:49,216 --> 01:51:53,055
I would I would have gone with A, but I'm with Fernatha I'm gonna go with B.

1056
01:51:53,536 --> 01:51:56,576
Oh, thank you. Okay, so the facts of life redo.

1057
01:51:57,376 --> 01:52:03,311
Television's most beloved classic sitcom is getting a movie reboot from Bloomhouse.

1058
01:52:04,064 --> 01:52:15,583
Which horror director will helm the production and what horror subgenre will they go with to entice their audience? So for example, William Castle will be hired and his will be a haunted house theme.

1059
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:26,873
So Okay, gotcha. For Bloom, I would say I would say uh Flanagan, Mike Flanagan would be the director.

1060
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:39,119
And although you said it I'm gonna I'm gonna take it, it would be a haunted house film, the facts of life. They have the uh you know, they uh the living area and then they've got Mrs. Garrett's shop. Yeah.

1061
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:39,600
Thank you.

1062
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:41,720
it would have I think there'd have to be a ghost involved.

1063
01:52:42,431 --> 01:52:45,311
They'd be in trouble. And then I thank you for playing.

1064
01:52:45,792 --> 01:52:51,641
Absolutely. Thank you for thank you for that. No, that's a great question and uh I love the facts of life as well.

1065
01:52:52,832 --> 01:52:57,328
Oh yeah,'cause you take the good and you take the bad and There you have the facts alive.

1066
01:52:57,807 --> 01:53:02,127
Okay. All right. So I'm gonna Richard, I'm gonna skip you real quick. I'm gonna go to Jeffrey.

1067
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:04,560
All right, Jeffrey, are you ready?

1068
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:06,000
I think so. So

1069
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,680
A is mother make it stop.

1070
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:09,050
Or B

1071
01:53:09,471 --> 01:53:11,872
And Alice doesn't live here anymore.

1072
01:53:11,872 --> 01:53:14,271
Alice doesn't live here anymore.

1073
01:53:14,271 --> 01:53:28,095
It's a time slip that alters the fate of our final girl in the original Friday the thirteenth film. Which Formerly murdered counselor gets their come upper misses Voheath to make them the final.

1074
01:53:29,311 --> 01:53:30,992
I have them listed if you need me to read.

1075
01:53:30,992 --> 01:53:41,551
them. Well, I don't know, I forget her name, but um uh the first girl, the hitchhiker, who is uh has her throat slit, she comes back and her throat is still slit.

1076
01:53:41,551 --> 01:53:42,511
She's a good thing.

1077
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:46,880
That was really rude.

1078
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:48,319
It gets her come up and

1079
01:53:48,319 --> 01:53:49,180
Yeah.

1080
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,359
Yeah.

1081
01:53:51,359 --> 01:54:01,199
So that's Annie. That's my favorite counselor of the whole series. And that's Robbie Morgan. Oh, I love Annie. Okay, thank you for playing. All right, Richard, are you ready?

1082
01:54:01,199 --> 01:54:01,920
Let's do it.

1083
01:54:02,399 --> 01:54:05,872
Okay, we have mother make it stop as A or B is white wedding.

1084
01:54:06,463 --> 01:54:08,623
Um mother make it stop, please.

1085
01:54:08,623 --> 01:54:09,104
All right.

1086
01:54:09,104 --> 01:54:16,984
So um which horror film franchise do you think ran longer than necessary? And at which entry should it have stopped?

1087
01:54:17,631 --> 01:54:22,811
So like, you know, I would say magic mic and it should have stopped after magic mic XX.

1088
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:36,720
Oh my god. Um I'm gonna go with um I'm gonna go with the Saw franchise. Um I wanted to start I mean I wanted the Saw franchise to stop during the first production meeting.

1089
01:54:38,496 --> 01:54:43,087
I I I know. There there are Saw fans. Um I'm sorry. Uh you guys

1090
01:54:43,648 --> 01:54:50,960
You guys should stop, but it's okay. Uh I just I just don't like that whole franchise from the first film, mainly because of its editing.

1091
01:54:51,199 --> 01:55:00,319
The uh the silly whoopsie-doodle new metal editing that makes me want to freaking throw up is the worst thing that's ever happened to horror for many years.

1092
01:55:00,319 --> 01:55:03,199
All right. Okay. Well that's my questions then. Thank you, gentlemen.

1093
01:55:03,199 --> 01:55:03,920
Thank you.

1094
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:11,231
Okay. Yes. Let's let's see. Uh Brad, or do you wanna do you want to Jeffrey, do you want to your your game? What what do you guys want to do?

1095
01:55:11,231 --> 01:55:12,912
Whatever.

1096
01:55:12,912 --> 01:55:14,351
All right.

1097
01:55:14,351 --> 01:55:22,528
All right. All right. So my game is super simple and it does involve everybody, but it really is testing Richard's metal.

1098
01:55:23,247 --> 01:55:36,655
our as our chief captain of this this podcast who's had long-running conversations and relationships with us throughout the years. And uh we're gonna see how well you know your co-host.

1099
01:55:37,311 --> 01:55:51,032
And to do this, you're really just gonna answer one question. You'll get two guesses for each person, just in case you mess up the first time. And for each of us, you need to determine.

1100
01:55:51,807 --> 01:55:54,640
One film that we hate.

1101
01:55:56,752 --> 01:56:00,351
A film that we hate that like collectively. No, no, no.

1102
01:56:00,351 --> 01:56:03,231
No, no, a film that each one of us hates personally.

1103
01:56:03,231 --> 01:56:04,431
Oh gotcha, gotcha.

1104
01:56:04,912 --> 01:56:07,261
So start with uh start with Mark down there.

1105
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:13,520
Mark loves everything. Mark has never hated in his life. Mm-hmm.

1106
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:22,399
But um maybe Mark hates a remake. Maybe Mark is uh not down with

1107
01:56:22,399 --> 01:56:23,770
Фуфуфуфуфу.

1108
01:56:24,543 --> 01:56:30,304
Um I can't think of a single thing. What Mark, tell me what's a movie you hate, Mark? I can't think of anything.

1109
01:56:31,024 --> 01:56:32,953
Real quick, Jeffrey, do you know the answers to these?

1110
01:56:33,439 --> 01:56:34,880
No, not at all.

1111
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:46,619
Oh, okay. I thought I thought, oh my gosh. Okay. So there is really only one film that like if I could erase from the face of the earth I would and I want my time back. And it's Filthy McNasty.

1112
01:56:47,199 --> 01:56:50,800
It was the stupidest movie I've ever seen in my life. It was

1113
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:51,359
Yeah.

1114
01:56:52,159 --> 01:57:02,416
Oh that that's that one makes me angry. That's the only about but that is one I absolutely hate. Other than that I can deal with any other film, but I just can't handle filthy McNassic.

1115
01:57:03,136 --> 01:57:04,336
Sorry, I feel bad.

1116
01:57:04,336 --> 01:57:09,136
This game is already great for me because I'm adding that to my my watch list.

1117
01:57:09,136 --> 01:57:10,095
Please don't.

1118
01:57:10,095 --> 01:57:10,576
Jeffrey.

1119
01:57:12,496 --> 01:57:13,456
He's don't forget.

1120
01:57:13,456 --> 01:57:17,336
Oh my god. It's only forty seven minutes. That's a that's a great length.

1121
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:22,640
A lot can happen in forty or cannot happen in forty seven minutes. Oh Jeffrey. Okay.

1122
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:23,119
It feels like...

1123
01:57:23,119 --> 01:57:26,239
Remember I didn't recommend it. Oh man. Yeah.

1124
01:57:26,239 --> 01:57:31,869
Uh so okay, a film that Sim that Simon hates, a film that Simon hates.

1125
01:57:32,543 --> 01:57:40,314
I could see uh I'm gonna go ahead and be racist against you because you're British, but I think you hate.

1126
01:57:40,832 --> 01:57:42,271
Bend it like back home.

1127
01:57:42,271 --> 01:57:48,471
I've never seen it, so I can't comment on that. I d I was thinking about this

1128
01:57:48,863 --> 01:57:59,631
Just'cause again, I I'm kind of a lover, not a fighter sort of thing. Um, I had two that came to mind. One was um and who knows if I rewatch these now because it's been years I might completely change my mind.

1129
01:57:59,807 --> 01:58:04,368
But would be Saint Elmo's Fire as much as I love all those like Brad Pag movies. That was one.

1130
01:58:05,328 --> 01:58:10,479
Some of the act ones films you wish had turned into a slasher film, that is fucking it.

1131
01:58:10,479 --> 01:58:11,439
Yeah.

1132
01:58:11,439 --> 01:58:24,655
Yeah, I don't need to say any more. And there's another one that I watched. I don't know whether I watched all of it. I had to look up the title of it. It's called An American Carol from 2008, which is a Zucker Brothers uh film. I heard it described once, and again we've already watched it this

1133
01:58:25,087 --> 01:58:38,640
hit me right at the time. Whether it would the same years later, I don't know, but it was sort of described in one review as like a uh a liberal witch hunt in court justice clothing and that is exactly how it struck me at the time. I just thought it was horrible.

1134
01:58:38,975 --> 01:58:50,144
And uh it's a shame because you've got people like Leslie Nielsen, I think he's very late for him and like Kelsey Grammer. Uh I I'm morbidly curious to go back to it, but yeah, those are the only two I can think of the top of my head I outright fucking hated.

1135
01:58:50,623 --> 01:58:55,184
Okay, so that means it's Jeffrey's turn for me to think of a film.

1136
01:58:55,184 --> 01:58:56,123
Capit for the last.

1137
01:58:56,832 --> 01:58:58,511
Okay, say Jeffrey for last.

1138
01:58:59,328 --> 01:59:00,528
So you want me to go next, Brad?

1139
01:59:00,528 --> 01:59:02,448
Yeah.

1140
01:59:02,448 --> 01:59:04,847
Pick you, pick you. Uh yes, I

1141
01:59:04,847 --> 01:59:06,047
Lots of things.

1142
01:59:06,047 --> 01:59:14,576
I know a film that um from my experience you hate, a little movie called Soul Survivors.

1143
01:59:14,576 --> 01:59:15,055
Yeah.

1144
01:59:15,055 --> 01:59:16,975
I was thinking of that one.

1145
01:59:16,975 --> 01:59:20,336
Yes.

1146
01:59:20,336 --> 01:59:20,695
Uh

1147
01:59:21,311 --> 01:59:24,671
And I don't mean to hurt anybody's feelings, but Cinadoce, New York.

1148
01:59:26,351 --> 01:59:35,072
That's probably that's that's a movie that I hated and I will never watch again, ever. But no, yes, Soul Survivors was awful.

1149
01:59:35,872 --> 01:59:36,591
That's all.

1150
01:59:36,591 --> 01:59:37,072
Killer.

1151
01:59:37,072 --> 01:59:44,381
That's the only as far as I know, that's the only film that Richard and I did.

1152
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:54,479
where we agreed that it wasn't good that beforehand. Like it w it was not something that we were passionate about whatsoever. Either one of us. There it was a fun episode.

1153
01:59:55,007 --> 02:00:01,488
Oh I'm looking at the poster now and it's so horrible. It's like that late nineties trend of let's put everybody on the poster.

1154
02:00:01,488 --> 02:00:01,967
Yeah.

1155
02:00:01,967 --> 02:00:06,717
I think that's probably where that trend burned out because it's just it looks so fucking tired.

1156
02:00:07,231 --> 02:00:16,271
So yeah, I I picked that because I thought it would be funny to make fun of and I I didn't know that Soul Survivors would would drain Brad's life energy.

1157
02:00:16,271 --> 02:00:22,095
No, no, no. You're you're you're misremembering show lore. I chose that one for you two.

1158
02:00:22,095 --> 02:00:23,536
You did? Yeah.

1159
02:00:23,536 --> 02:00:24,975
You're kidding me.

1160
02:00:24,975 --> 02:00:26,895
Mike.

1161
02:00:26,895 --> 02:00:31,296
It was come up and for a film that uh that Brad chose for us to talk about.

1162
02:00:31,775 --> 02:00:36,304
God, it fifteen years is a long time, Jeffrey. I'm sorry.

1163
02:00:36,735 --> 02:00:40,815
And and then just to be clear, this is not Soul Survivor, which was like a little bit of a little bit of a little

1164
02:00:40,815 --> 02:00:41,775
No, no, no.

1165
02:00:42,256 --> 02:00:43,216
Survivor.

1166
02:00:43,216 --> 02:00:44,176
Eliza J.

1167
02:00:44,655 --> 02:00:49,456
Luke Luke Perry. Oh no, sorry, Luke Wilson, not Luke Perry.

1168
02:00:49,456 --> 02:00:51,095
Oh I want Luke Perry.

1169
02:00:51,551 --> 02:00:55,024
Yeah. I really don't remember.

1170
02:00:55,967 --> 02:01:02,735
I mean it wasn't it wasn't antagonistic. I I didn't I didn't pick it because I thought you'd hate it but I don't remember what it was.

1171
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:16,079
No, I don't know. I know what it is very well because I actually changed my opinion um when watching and recording it. Uh which often happens. Uh that happened with things like um blood cult, right? I didn't like it until we talked about it. And then I like

1172
02:01:16,079 --> 02:01:16,439
Sure.

1173
02:01:16,543 --> 02:01:19,568
Um that film was Bloodsucker Leads the Dance.

1174
02:01:21,967 --> 02:01:24,847
No, it's great. I love that movie.

1175
02:01:24,847 --> 02:01:25,787
I'm glad you do.

1176
02:01:26,015 --> 02:01:32,015
I love that I remember that as being a Jeffrey movie and had nothing to do with Brad picking it whatsoever.

1177
02:01:32,015 --> 02:01:37,296
Yeah, I probably I probably am very angry on that episode, but then you hear me like

1178
02:01:37,775 --> 02:01:38,256
Bye bye.

1179
02:01:38,256 --> 02:01:39,695
It's softening up over the course of the yeah.

1180
02:01:40,576 --> 02:01:48,496
That's amazing. Oh does somebody fall down the stairs in that movie or was it or did I fall down the stairs because of the movie?

1181
02:01:48,496 --> 02:01:49,695
Maybe we all did.

1182
02:01:50,047 --> 02:01:54,127
I remember a staircase or something. That's all I really remember.

1183
02:01:54,127 --> 02:01:55,738
Well it's in a big house, so that would make it.

1184
02:01:56,576 --> 02:01:59,568
Yeah, I remember I did not enjoy it.

1185
02:02:00,127 --> 02:02:11,228
So for Jeffrey for Jeffrey, picking a movie that Jeffrey hates is very difficult because it's like a minefield of like no one would like this.

1186
02:02:11,743 --> 02:02:17,264
This is a joke. And then Jeffrey's like, Nope, I have the poster.

1187
02:02:17,264 --> 02:02:17,663
Autograph.

1188
02:02:18,144 --> 02:02:19,583
How about

1189
02:02:19,583 --> 02:02:20,444
That's the same thing.

1190
02:02:20,895 --> 02:02:31,760
Day of the Dead Two, the one that was like a direct to video sequel sequel in name only to Day of the Dead, George Romero's Day of the Dead. So Day of the Dead Two.

1191
02:02:32,064 --> 02:02:35,184
I mean I would probably just like that, but I haven't seen that.

1192
02:02:35,663 --> 02:02:37,583
But what is a movie you hate, Jeffrey?

1193
02:02:37,583 --> 02:02:39,743
Um no, you got one more guess.

1194
02:02:39,743 --> 02:02:40,463
I got one more?

1195
02:02:40,463 --> 02:02:42,384
Yeah, you get two good two guests for.

1196
02:02:42,384 --> 02:02:45,724
Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1197
02:02:46,496 --> 02:02:56,079
I think it would be what was that parody of It was a Canadian parody of I Know What You Did Last Summer.

1198
02:02:56,192 --> 02:02:56,912
Uh

1199
02:02:56,912 --> 02:02:58,351
I still know what you did.

1200
02:02:58,351 --> 02:03:03,152
Shriek if you know it it did last Friday the thirteenth. I fucking love that movie. That movie is great.

1201
02:03:06,032 --> 02:03:08,912
That movie has some hilarious jokes in it.

1202
02:03:08,912 --> 02:03:14,095
It's so Canadian, right? That's a big was that Canadian? Uh or was I'm just misremembering.

1203
02:03:14,095 --> 02:03:24,095
It could be. I would believe it. That it it feels Canadian now that you say it. Um yeah, with me it's it's good to like pick to pick like a like

1204
02:03:24,351 --> 02:03:36,783
you know, sometimes like overhyped modern horror movies that people adore. Um just off the top of my head, last night I went and saw at the drive-in um Obsession, this new movie that's out.

1205
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:37,680
Yeah, I think...

1206
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:40,944
YouTube person. I hated it. It's terrible.

1207
02:03:40,944 --> 02:03:46,814
Really? I had two people tell me that they enjoyed it and I thought about going and seeing it this weekend. Yeah.

1208
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:52,399
Ooh. I mean go see it. Maybe maybe you might like it. I I didn't like a single thing about it.

1209
02:03:52,399 --> 02:03:58,671
I've only heard one person that didn't like that movie so far, and that's been Jeffrey.

1210
02:03:58,671 --> 02:04:00,591
No.

1211
02:04:00,591 --> 02:04:02,511
I'm a hater. What can I say?

1212
02:04:05,568 --> 02:04:16,239
What was that movie last year that it's again it sounds like a relationship thing, was it together, which might have sound more interest that was leading to body horror, but I just I have no interest and it's like people enjoy it fine, but I just I'm not

1213
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:17,583
I just don't care.

1214
02:04:17,887 --> 02:04:21,967
Yeah, I saw that one at the drive in as well. Better than obsession, but still not.

1215
02:04:21,967 --> 02:04:32,047
Yeah. The thing with Simon and I is that we only ever find pleasure in the human body, so we don't understand we don't understand the concept of body horror.

1216
02:04:32,047 --> 02:04:33,007
Mm-hmm.

1217
02:04:33,007 --> 02:04:33,728
Okay.

1218
02:04:34,768 --> 02:04:37,887
Uh so yeah, what about me? What do I hate?

1219
02:04:37,887 --> 02:04:40,880
Yeah. Ha ha ha.

1220
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:42,560
Oh wait, wait, did I already go?

1221
02:04:43,039 --> 02:04:47,119
So for a long time I know you hated Manhunter. I think maybe you came around

1222
02:04:47,119 --> 02:04:53,789
Oh I dude, that was I that was a d that was a demon speaking through me. There was something wrong with me. I still have some issues with

1223
02:04:54,239 --> 02:05:07,439
uh some of the the moments of wistful uh staring out at the ocean or like the kind of like like the the the some of the music some of the um needle drops and the kind of like

1224
02:05:08,319 --> 02:05:14,319
I don't know. I I think I would imagine if I watched it again right now I would find nothing to complain about it like

1225
02:05:14,319 --> 02:05:14,800
Okay.

1226
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:17,680
It was just one of those weird opinions I used, I don't like that movie.

1227
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:23,520
I didn't get the email where you changed your mind'cause I all these years I'm like, No, he hated Manhunter, he told me.

1228
02:05:23,935 --> 02:05:33,775
Yeah, it's just I got over it. I I rewatched it like about a decade ago and was totally totally coming around on it. So I should have put out a frickin' memo to all y'all. I'm sorry.

1229
02:05:33,775 --> 02:05:34,735
I love that.

1230
02:05:34,735 --> 02:05:36,315
Happens. It's a beautiful thing.

1231
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:47,503
I think I have an answer for this one. Um but damn cheat not cheating, but I'm a bit um it came up in our Idle Hands episode. Uh you said that you hated Twister, which I truly watched in the past tweet.

1232
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:48,720
Yeah.

1233
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:53,279
For the first time possibly since the theatre, uh or at least societies.

1234
02:05:53,279 --> 02:06:04,847
I I think home video, now that home video's caught up to a movie like Twister, because when I saw it on VHS It's one of the most infamous pan and scan garbage like it suffered the most.

1235
02:06:04,847 --> 02:06:06,287
It's a shame, so it's a beautiful shop.

1236
02:06:06,287 --> 02:06:09,167
film. They butchered that movie the pan and scan print.

1237
02:06:09,167 --> 02:06:23,935
I think I'd actually heard so I was looking to some of the trivia. Apparently I could be wrong was actually the first D V D ever released. Uh at least in this podcast I've listened to I could be wrong, but it certainly tracks with the vintage. And good cast, I'd I'd tell you, speaking of uh was it Synaptic New York, which

1238
02:06:24,416 --> 02:06:26,105
Was it you saying you hated Brad?

1239
02:06:28,192 --> 02:06:39,311
Yeah, I I get you, you know, and it's is a depressing movie. It left an impact on me and uh Charlie Kaufman, I want to ask him if he's okay between that and what's the other film called. I'm thinking of ending things. Oh yeah.

1240
02:06:39,311 --> 02:06:39,792
Exactly.

1241
02:06:39,792 --> 02:06:41,231
Which I

1242
02:06:41,231 --> 02:06:41,712
Thank you.

1243
02:06:41,712 --> 02:06:47,421
really dog. It struck me what it's like. I wouldn't be in a rush to go back to anyway, Philip Seymour Hoffman in Twister.

1244
02:06:47,967 --> 02:06:49,167
Uh oh yeah.

1245
02:06:49,167 --> 02:06:54,807
You know, if you have any life goals, endeavour to have as much fun as he's having in that movie. He he's and

1246
02:06:55,072 --> 02:07:05,872
It has the guy, was it Todd Field, who layer directed tar and like other stuff and it it's got a great craft but I yeah, I I get you and it's like it's all spectacle, it's complete nonsense. But anyway, sorry I'm just

1247
02:07:05,872 --> 02:07:06,351
Oh well.

1248
02:07:06,351 --> 02:07:06,841
Yeah.

1249
02:07:07,264 --> 02:07:11,823
And they burn a warehouse inside the warehouse and he hires somebody to be him and talk about

1250
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:23,840
And I just I was like, why? But I understand. I I think Roger Ebert named it like his favorite film of the year, the fate one of his favorite of the decade. So what do I know?

1251
02:07:24,416 --> 02:07:30,895
No, no, I get, you know, she'll not like say for instance a David Lynch fan. I get why you hated it, but I totally respect your opinion.

1252
02:07:30,895 --> 02:07:32,185
You get me, Simon.

1253
02:07:32,608 --> 02:07:33,807
I totally yeah.

1254
02:07:33,807 --> 02:07:42,448
Twister, when I saw it, it was on VHS. This was definitely the the VHS version of Twister. So I didn't even have the luxury of the DVD.

1255
02:07:42,927 --> 02:07:43,578
Fair enough.

1256
02:07:44,192 --> 02:07:46,832
But uh yeah, uh Brad, what's your question time?

1257
02:07:46,832 --> 02:07:56,560
Okay, so I wanted to mention some folks uh at first, if you don't mind, but I don't Do you have that plan yourself is to mention a few people?

1258
02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:58,000
I don't go for it.

1259
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:12,576
Uh over the years I've made such friends uh with people through the show. Uh uh and I would just like to thank uh Mark, Court, Jeff, Lanny, Ted, David Ladd, David Sasino.

1260
02:08:13,055 --> 02:08:16,176
And I would like to have a special mention of Natha.

1261
02:08:17,136 --> 02:08:18,496
Uh co host

1262
02:08:19,231 --> 02:08:28,368
Of the show. Very, very close friend of Richard's, uh, friend of mine that has gone on. And I'd like to mention Margie as well. Um, I'm not.

1263
02:08:28,832 --> 02:08:39,631
Patron saint of Hello is the Doomed Show. Uh lovely lady that uh forwarded us all something uh f for the Doom show, if you go back and listen.

1264
02:08:39,967 --> 02:08:46,992
Uh those that have gone on. My question time, it's odd. Jeffrey kind of almost he really he touched upon it. I was gonna ask each of you.

1265
02:08:47,328 --> 02:08:58,319
Uh, what is a film that you did for the show that you liked much better at after having covered it? You didn't think you were gonna like it, but you ended up liking it. So like for me.

1266
02:08:58,528 --> 02:09:08,463
I had overlooked and I it's blasphemy to say, but I had overlooked he knows you'll you're alone until we did it. And then I I was like, Oh, I just love this so much. That's how I remember it.

1267
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:18,079
So I was wondering, uh Mark, have you done a a film that you thought, I'm not so sure about this, but then ultimately loved it while covering it on the show?

1268
02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:20,569
So I feel bad'cause I can't remember the name. I

1269
02:09:21,119 --> 02:09:28,271
I had never seen it. So it wasn't really the case of that. But it was the Joan Collins one that we did. Police, um

1270
02:09:30,112 --> 02:09:44,271
Magnum Cop. Yeah, that was amazing. And I didn't really even know that existed. So it it wasn't that I didn't like it and it changed my opinion. It was just I didn't know it existed and it was just it's phenomenal. I love that movie so much. Another great victory for Joan Collins. That's all I can say.

1271
02:09:44,271 --> 02:09:46,431
Is that is that the one that Merley's in?

1272
02:09:46,912 --> 02:09:47,032
Yeah.

1273
02:09:47,488 --> 02:09:58,671
Oh man, I Mark, I bought a copy of that from a gas station about about, I don't know, sixteen years ago, something like that. Excellent choice. I do really enjoy that one. Of course.

1274
02:09:59,167 --> 02:10:13,423
I love Joan Collins, but I was more in the Eurocrown phase and of course they did not emphasize that whatsoever on the on the packaging. What about you, Simon? Have you have you done a movie with Richard that at first you're like, I don't know about this, but ended up loving it in the end?

1275
02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:21,039
Yeah, I I hate to look at the list so because I kinda struggle with this'cause normally again we only really cover stuff that we either like or love.

1276
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:22,270
It's true. Yeah.

1277
02:10:22,591 --> 02:10:36,079
Yeah, but um we did um cover the and I think we're gonna go back to it at some point maybe, I don't know, and do the the TV show and do a sort of wrap-up, but we did a I think so far three part nightmare on Elm Street retrospective.

1278
02:10:36,351 --> 02:10:49,039
So this is what episode ninety eight, Nine Ran Elm Street, four to six, specifically uh five, The Dream Child, which I really was not like a fan of the first time I saw it. Then I got the Blu-ray. Uh

1279
02:10:49,344 --> 02:10:56,912
I forget who directed it now off the top of my head. But um yeah, that sort of helped me a bit because it's again really beautifully art directed and short, etcetera.

1280
02:10:57,184 --> 02:11:06,511
that and I've sort of settled with the the silliness of the whole child thing and just the whole tone thing when you get into those later ones anyways, just fucking forget it. Just just go with it. It it is what it is.

1281
02:11:06,944 --> 02:11:16,304
And uh I have um yeah, I've got it on 4K now as well in that uh you know, the brought the whole box out again for that. So yeah, I look forward to revisiting it. But yeah, I'd say that one.

1282
02:11:16,304 --> 02:11:21,144
Excellent. Uh Jeffrey, I know you touched upon that in your answer uh earlier.

1283
02:11:21,663 --> 02:11:33,775
I did. So so Blood Sucker Leads the Dance, Blood Call are two two big ones that I like did complete one eighties on. Um but the the other ones I would point out would be something like uh Monster Dog.

1284
02:11:34,047 --> 02:11:44,463
And uh the French Sex Murders, um, two that I was kind of lukewarm on or didn't really care that much about, and then I I really ended up enjoying them after our podcast.

1285
02:11:45,247 --> 02:11:56,304
That's awesome. Monster Dog would be the same for me. Uh I did not. We I saw it and I'm like, okay. And then I saw it and I was like, okay.

1286
02:11:56,479 --> 02:12:02,960
Thank you. Uh Richard, have you done a podcast with Richard on a film that you thought you would not like but ended up liking?

1287
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:15,391
Um I certainly have done some shows uh with y'all and that that have I've come around on uh just like stuff I was you know interested to talk about.

1288
02:12:15,872 --> 02:12:28,319
But then afterwards was like, oh shit, that was way different than what I thought. It was gonna go where it was gonna go. And the big Simon one was um the uh When a Stranger Calls Back.

1289
02:12:29,039 --> 02:12:36,569
I think when w when we decided to do that, I was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember like one part of that movie from my childhood and it was so

1290
02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:45,551
You know, getting to see it and being like, Okay, I don't know why I wasn't smarter as a kid. This is freaking great.

1291
02:12:46,496 --> 02:12:47,216
Okay.

1292
02:12:47,216 --> 02:12:49,725
One of the best sequels of all time. Yeah.

1293
02:12:50,144 --> 02:13:00,703
Absolutely yeah. I d I went back to not all of it but the beginning of the episode recently. And um yeah, I love that more than the I I like the original, but yeah, I really love the sequel.

1294
02:13:00,703 --> 02:13:13,775
Um a Jeffrey movie that um I have didn't enjoy as much even after we covered it, but then years of re listening to episodes while I'm like when I'm doing like house stuff.

1295
02:13:14,176 --> 02:13:26,319
like painting or whatever, I listened to our show and I relisten to everybody's episodes. But the one I keep coming back to and I've since purchased on Blu-ray, because that uh freaking bootleg suck.

1296
02:13:26,912 --> 02:13:29,391
was uh the American scream.

1297
02:13:30,112 --> 02:13:34,912
From nineteen eighty eight, um, which is I think it's is that a secret Christmas movie?

1298
02:13:34,912 --> 02:13:38,384
Um it's winter.

1299
02:13:38,384 --> 02:13:49,551
Yeah, it's definitely a wintry feel, but it's just so weird and wacky. And then they try to go scary, paranoid thriller, and they it's just too late after the wacky.

1300
02:13:49,551 --> 02:13:50,032
Okay.

1301
02:13:50,032 --> 02:13:53,952
But then I grew to appreciate how broken that was.

1302
02:13:53,952 --> 02:13:55,391
Absolutely.

1303
02:13:55,391 --> 02:13:59,952
Oh, another Jeffrey one is uh my my grandpa's a vampire while I'm scrolling.

1304
02:13:59,952 --> 02:14:01,981
Wow.

1305
02:14:02,623 --> 02:14:12,176
What the hell? No, I I'm looking at Mark, you know, everything we've talked about has been just a blast to I was Yeah, I'm trying I try to pick stuff for you to enjoy.

1306
02:14:12,895 --> 02:14:13,855
Well thank you.

1307
02:14:14,336 --> 02:14:21,376
And for a Brad episode of something I appreciated more after we covered it.

1308
02:14:22,015 --> 02:14:31,376
weird a weird one that is like a staple now and I don't I wouldn't be Halloween without it is that root sixty six episode.

1309
02:14:31,376 --> 02:14:32,095
Nice.

1310
02:14:32,095 --> 02:14:38,095
The one with um with uh Mr Peter Laurie and

1311
02:14:38,095 --> 02:14:39,055
Caroline.

1312
02:14:39,055 --> 02:14:48,176
Boris Karloff and the Lon Cheney Jr. That that like I enjoy that w when we talked about it, but now it's like it's not Halloween without that episode.

1313
02:14:48,176 --> 02:14:49,466
Mm-hmm.

1314
02:14:50,224 --> 02:14:51,760
So perfect.

1315
02:14:52,000 --> 02:15:06,329
Well, uh thank you. I also want to say thank you to each one of you gentlemen. Uh you all bring something unique, different, and special to the show. Uh you know, Rich I started out as the co-host, he started adding co-host.

1316
02:15:06,815 --> 02:15:15,536
Uh uh it's been very successful. We're on episode we could be on episode 3,000, but if we were, we wouldn't. And what I mean by that is that.

1317
02:15:15,904 --> 02:15:27,600
We do the podcast as we do the podcast. I know everybody, you know, Jeffrey is super busy. Um, and there's all things good kind of things going on, but Fifteen years later it's

1318
02:15:27,904 --> 02:15:41,648
I I would never, ever, ever have said, Yeah, we'll be doing this in fifteen years. It's just crazy. And I hope everyone takes away the feeling that I have currently, which is

1319
02:15:41,952 --> 02:15:51,728
I wanna watch some horror films this afternoon because you guys just make me this makes me excited about s about horror films and genre films. And I honestly think it does.

1320
02:15:52,000 --> 02:16:05,359
you know, to to the listeners as well. I never say fans. We don't have any fans. We have friends of the show. And I just I really love doing it. And I love you guys. And I I appreciate each and every one of you. I think it's true.

1321
02:16:05,631 --> 02:16:06,351
Well thank you.

1322
02:16:06,351 --> 02:16:06,832
Thank you.

1323
02:16:07,311 --> 02:16:08,271
It is beautifully put.

1324
02:16:10,047 --> 02:16:15,568
I feel like I'm the odd one out because you guys were the horror friends that I

1325
02:16:16,047 --> 02:16:25,278
Never had but desperately wanted. Um, and it was just always so cool to listen to you guys talk about a genre that I loved and a lot of people just

1326
02:16:25,823 --> 02:16:36,912
Oh, you like horror, whatever, you know, that's that's stupid. And but you guys you guys loved it as much as I did. And I didn't know you, but I knew you and it was very cool. Like I lived for the episodes as they came.

1327
02:16:37,790 --> 02:16:38,990
Oh maybe.

1328
02:16:42,558 --> 02:16:55,920
But no, it was you matched our energy. Like I immediately got the sense just from social media that you you were a really cool person, and then I was as soon as I heard you talking on another show, I was like, Yep, yep, let's

1329
02:16:56,288 --> 02:17:06,703
Let's do this. So we we had a little chat about uh just just in general getting to know each other and then we hit the ground running and I appreciate your involvement. And that's the thing, like appreciate all you guys.

1330
02:17:07,167 --> 02:17:11,566
uh giving hours of your lives for this stuff'cause of course it's not just

1331
02:17:12,128 --> 02:17:26,064
watching a movie and taking some notes. Sometimes it's watching a movie multiple times and taking notes. Sometimes it's just chatting for an hour, recording for two, and then chatting for another hour afterwards. Kinda like today.

1332
02:17:26,368 --> 02:17:31,504
And so this this feels like an old Brad episode where he and I have been on the phone for fucking five hours.

1333
02:17:32,879 --> 02:17:36,239
Back in speaker front speakerphone Brad days.

1334
02:17:36,239 --> 02:17:45,424
Yeah. I've I've had different different levels of uh audio quality over the years. And I like to think that we're at our highest now. Mm-hmm.

1335
02:17:45,424 --> 02:17:50,224
Even though the audio quality is different, the quality overall is still always the same.

1336
02:17:50,224 --> 02:17:50,942
Yeah.

1337
02:17:51,520 --> 02:17:52,239
Well, thank you.

1338
02:17:52,239 --> 02:17:54,399
That's my secret's Viagra.

1339
02:17:54,399 --> 02:17:57,308
My pops will run before.

1340
02:17:58,208 --> 02:18:00,912
I saw this kind I realized a couple of times we're talking right.

1341
02:18:02,015 --> 02:18:04,656
What was that Mark? You got you broke up again?

1342
02:18:04,656 --> 02:18:07,152
I saw the desk kind of rise up a couple times there.

1343
02:18:08,592 --> 02:18:09,551
Yeah.

1344
02:18:09,551 --> 02:18:20,078
Well, we were talking about something like that when we first came on. I don't know why, but like round Richard's uh midsection it pixelated for some reason. Like it was censoring.

1345
02:18:24,448 --> 02:18:34,992
Uh but I just uh speaking of like piggybacking again, just sort of passabaton, I just um echo a few things that Mark said and um I think I probably said to both Richard and Brad in the last few days of like

1346
02:18:35,647 --> 02:18:46,207
Twenty sixteen, I know, is a bit of a crazier year for the world in general than it was f for me. And this past year has been as well, without giving anybody my life story or woe is me or whatever, or any of that.

1347
02:18:47,296 --> 02:19:01,040
Uh, but that was definitely for me the best thing to kind of come out that year and just something good to sort of focus on uh or refocus on or whatever. And like today has been, you know, is it's been a really, really hard year. It was a real push.

1348
02:19:01,824 --> 02:19:11,183
to just be here today, to be quite frank. Uh, but um again, it's given me something to sort of push towards and I'm glad I did. And uh yeah, I love you all. So thank you.

1349
02:19:11,183 --> 02:19:13,584
And thank you. We're we're so glad you made it.

1350
02:19:13,584 --> 02:19:18,140
We are. Absolutely. Good on you, Simon. Again.

1351
02:19:18,942 --> 02:19:30,927
And of course, reaching out to all of our fans, as I call them. No, I'm just kidding. Uh, to listeners of the show, thank you so much for everybody who's ever accidentally listened to us.

1352
02:19:31,296 --> 02:19:42,000
or been in a hostage situation that I may have caused and forced you to listen to us. Uh to my in to my confused coworkers, thank you to to everybody who's just

1353
02:19:42,432 --> 02:19:49,631
been there from the beginning or even just joining us for the first time. Uh we're gonna keep going. Might as well do 500 if we're doing 300. Shit.

1354
02:19:49,631 --> 02:19:50,352
That's true.

1355
02:19:50,352 --> 02:19:51,311
Three hundred more.

1356
02:19:51,311 --> 02:19:51,582
Mm.

1357
02:19:51,904 --> 02:19:59,824
Yep. So we're gonna we're gonna go pee for a while. We're gonna come right back on and uh get on episode three hundred and one, two, and three, guys. So thanks.

1358
02:19:59,824 --> 02:20:02,174
Ha ha ha.

1359
02:20:03,183 --> 02:20:07,744
And thanks for listening. Bye. Thank you. Thank you guys.

1360
02:20:08,879 --> 02:20:28,079
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1361
02:20:28,559 --> 02:20:38,224
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1362
02:20:38,672 --> 02:20:47,072
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