New Housing Alternatives

In this episode of New Housing Alternatives, hosts Cherise Burda and Dr. Ren Thomas speak with Anne Gordon-Tighe, strategist at Y Station, a communications and research firm that works with governments, non‑profits, and housing providers. Anne explains how Y Station bridges the gap between quantitative public opinion research and qualitative public engagement, helping clients navigate contentious conversations around new affordable and supportive housing.

Anne traces Y Station’s origins and name back to “Y stations” in the Second World War—radio towers that picked up signals and relayed them to code‑breakers at Bletchley Park. She uses this metaphor to describe how Y Station gathers signals from surveys, stakeholder interviews, and public meetings to give clients a holistic view of the “public conversation” around housing. For many non‑profit providers stepping into development for the first time, this support is critical: they are already stretched thin operating shelters and services, and often lack in‑house capacity to manage complex engagement and communications requirements tied to land sales and development approvals.

The conversation then turns to the myths, fears, and human rights questions that surface when new affordable housing is proposed. Anne outlines common community concerns about property values, crime, and the loss of existing uses like parks, and contrasts these with neutral or supportive residents who simply want information. She describes Y Station’s approach to balancing radical transparency—including around contentious elements like harm reduction services—with a firm commitment to tenants’ rights. As she puts it, we don’t get to decide who our current neighbours have over as guests or what medications they take, and the same standard should apply to residents of affordable and supportive housing.

From there, Cherise and Ren dig into what makes engagement effective—and why it often starts too late. Anne shares examples of humanizing strategies, including inviting prospective tenants into design workshops and using stories and data from existing sites to counter NIMBY narratives. She emphasizes the importance of proactive, non‑project‑based conversations led by municipal and community leaders, rather than placing the full burden on housing providers once a specific development is already on the table. The episode closes by contrasting the evolving approach of larger cities like Edmonton with the political dynamics of smaller municipalities, and by highlighting tools like good neighbour agreements, ongoing relationship‑building, and better data collection as ways to set both projects and future residents up for long‑term success.

Key Takeaways
  • Bridging research and engagement creates better housing conversations.
  • Non‑profit housing providers face steep capacity and learning curves.
  • Myths about affordable housing are persistent—but can be challenged.
  • Tenants’ human rights must anchor engagement practices.
  • Project‑based engagement starts too late and hardens opposition.
  • Municipal leadership and good data can de‑risk housing debates.
  • Good neighbour agreements and ongoing relationships matter.
Chapters

00:00 – Intro: New Housing Alternatives and this episode’s focus 
00:20 – Introducing guest: strategist and facilitator Anne Gordon Tai 
00:43 – What Y Station does: bridging research and public engagement 
02:04 – The WWII “Y stations” origin story behind the firm’s name 
03:13 – Quantitative research vs. qualitative engagement—and why they’re siloed 
04:38 – How Y Station supports non‑profit affordable housing developers 
06:53 – Common community concerns: property values, crime myths, and losing parks 
08:45 – Human rights, tenant privacy, and what neighbours don’t get to decide 
09:59 – Humanizing engagement: involving prospective tenants and sharing stories 
12:31 – Urban vs. suburban/small‑town attitudes toward change and new housing 
14:10 – Why project‑based engagement comes too late in the public conversation 
15:47 – Who should lead broader housing education: elected officials and community leaders 
16:50 – The role of municipalities vs. affordable housing providers in public engagement 
18:28 – Using data (property values, 911 calls) to counter myths about affordable housing 
20:00 – Good neighbour agreements and ongoing community relations 
21:47 – How municipal politics differ between big cities and smaller communities 
25:31 – Final reflections on public engagement as foundation for successful tenancies 
26:27 – Episode wrap‑up, resources, and thanks to our guest  

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What is New Housing Alternatives?

What if the solutions to Canada’s housing crisis are already out there, just hidden in plain sight? New Housing Alternatives Podcast digs deeper to uncover what really works in solving the affordability issue.

Despite dominant narratives claiming our housing crisis can be solved by simply building more market-rate supply, nearly half of Canadian households can’t afford average rents today. The crisis is deeper than a numbers game; it’s about who we’re building for, who gets left out, and what kind of communities we want to live in.

Join hosts Ren Thomas and Cherise Burda as they explore real solutions to this once-in-a-generation housing crisis and cut through the noise on Canada’s housing affordability crisis to spotlight real solutions that already exist, and the people making them happen.

New Housing Alternatives is made possible with the support of a Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada (SSHRC) Partnership Grant, a partnership that is co-directed by Alan Walks and Susannah Bunce and based at the University of Toronto.

In this series, we talk to the people doing the work: nonprofit and co-operative developers, community organizers, and researchers reimagining housing not as a commodity, but as a human right. These are the underdogs creating affordable homes against the odds, proving it’s possible to build housing for people, not profit.

You’ll hear from:
-Ground-breaking developers creating alternative models of co-ownership and co-ops
-Policy experts who challenge the supply-only narrative
-Economists and data experts unpack how affordability vanishes, and how to bring it back
-Community leaders who are preserving existing homes and building new ones in ways that centre dignity and access

Whether you're a policymaker, housing advocate, or simply someone trying to make rent, this podcast brings you stories and insights that show a different future is not only possible, it’s already being built.