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hello all you beautiful people

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ladies and gents

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guys and dolls and everyone in between

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gather round

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get you something real nice to sip on

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and comfy to slip on

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because it's time

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for smut club

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here's your hosts chelsea and hannah

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hello hi everybody welcome to smut club

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i'm hannah i'm chelsea

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and we're day drinking and talking about

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books which is really well not just

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books smut smud it's where we thrive it

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is where we thrive and this is living

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our best lives so yes we're currently

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drinking what we call weekend coffees

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which is really just whiskey and creamer

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with coffee ice cubes in it um but it

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works it does 10 out of 10 would would

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recommend it and if you have one of the

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little electric whisks it really

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elevates the experience it just needs a

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little judge to like really put it over

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the top yes and like it

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it needs a lot of joj because the book

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we're reviewing today has i can't i

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don't know if it really has a lot of

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judge it has a lot happening i don't

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know if any of it's just

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it's not judge you know when i think of

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judge i think of like

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there's a level of smoothness that

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happens with judge you know

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and this book lacks all smoothness

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it is

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all rough edges and i have read this

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book twice and still don't know what the

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[ __ ] happened we should probably say

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what book it is it is master of salt and

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bone

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by carrie lake

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yep that one uh

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is a journey

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i mean it is it's a journey from start

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so i i will begin by

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by introducing our characters yeah like

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our two main ones so we have lucian who

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town recluse he is known as the devil of

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bone salt

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and uh he is apparently horribly scarred

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and known around this small new england

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as like a major

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douchebag i guess

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and doesn't really leave his house

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and then our girl also is very affluent

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yes yes yes he's he's super duper rich

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lives in a huge mansion

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and alone with his scars is kind of the

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general energy and his mom yeah oh and

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his mom his mom and his scars his mom

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and his scars yeah yeah

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um and there's all this like like

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town urban legend around him and this

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house and all this

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get into the story

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um and then we have isadora who goes by

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i would too yeah right who is our main

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she is 19. she is from a very poor

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family her mom is the town [ __ ]

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which made her life really difficult

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growing up understandably

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and um she has no idea who her father is

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um i i i get the feeling it was like one

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of the like a wheel of fortune spin

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thing where you know it could be any

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number of options just just flicking the

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wrist and we'll see like who doesn't

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land on kind of like on how i met your

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mother how barney stinson's brother was

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played by wayne brady and it's because

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his mother got around yes okay exactly

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although izzy is an only child

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um mainly raised by her aunt because her

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mom's also on a lot of drugs and again

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we'll get into that more as we get into

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the story now as i was thinking about

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how to review this book i did talk to

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chelsea about different ways that we

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confusing and so initially i was

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flashbacks first

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the more we talked about it the more i

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realized i don't want to rob you guys of

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the experience of

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this chaos because it

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that is the book you know like like if i

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change the order to try to make it more

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lucid i have just

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you're doing everyone a disservice

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master of salt and bone exactly like i

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i am taking away the integrity of the

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the word i would have chosen

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we the authenticity of the journey sure

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josh is not the word we'll find it

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eventually um i'm gonna laugh my ass off

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if we make it through this entire review

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and by the end we're still like we don't

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have the word for what this book is i'm

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going to lay odds on that that it's

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going to be 60 40. we're gonna have no

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i'm not betting against it fair enough

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friend lucian

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asylum like being strapped down and he

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is crying and sobbing begging his mother

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not to leave him and to help him and she

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says that um he's sick

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him and he just needs to calm down and

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car with her aunt they're driving um to

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the uh manor where lucian lives

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allusion to some kind of trauma that she

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experienced recently the aunt is like i

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trying to save up money so she can leave

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the window

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it's just so weird and it's in a ton of

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movies and a ton of books where like the

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the woman arrives somewhere and there's

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with her goal on this one

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okay carrie gets credit for this trope

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just the ones though just the ones never

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again never please god

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so um izzy is in like

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torn clothes they're super old because

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she shows up and she meets the mom she

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meets the butler person i guess

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and he's giving her a tour telling her

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the rules he says you know stay out of

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of the master's way

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and she's like cool cool cool cool cool

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and the mom is really strange she has

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isn't very steady on her feet so she

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i don't really remember when i read it

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but i would have bet money it was his

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grandmother and not his mom and so now

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i'm really questioning

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my memory of this book

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it is his mother oh damn it is his

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conceptualizing it and not for the

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it's not good no okay so it's his mother

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i'm not gonna get us off track there

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it's his mother and so this is gonna be

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important later she also has this

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collection of very expensive very rare

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ultra creepy dolls like vintage old

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that i love a good doll collector i just

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annabelle why

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you know what i'm not here to shame

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people if that is your jam like

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okay that's okay but i also

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if you ever ask me if i want to see the

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collection i'm probably going to

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politely decline or not so politely i

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was going to say i probably won't be

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polite about it

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you know that's just a boundary i'm

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going to keep precisely okay so izzy's

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getting settled in she has to live in

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the manor as part of her new job um so

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she gets settled in

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the mom is like hate your outfit we're

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buying you new clothes it's a whole

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um oh i forgot izzy is also a very

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accomplished piano player of course

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naturally but like obviously it makes

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whose mother was the town [ __ ] who's

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never had anything or really any access

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to lessons consistently or anything of

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that capacity would just naturally be

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a piano prodigy

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right and they do address that because

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apparently she has um

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like an eidetic memory where she can

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replicate anything she hears so when she

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doubt that you know but okay we'll give

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you that one it's convenient i mean for

284
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the sake of the story i guess we'll give

285
00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,399
you that one well how else would she

286
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learn to play the piano hannah

287
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i

288
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she she wanted

289
00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,680
without that memory she would not be the

290
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accomplished pianist that she is

291
00:10:55,680 --> 00:11:00,959
and apparently the mom loves uh

292
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classical music so this is very exciting

293
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for everybody that she is able to do

294
00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,079
this

295
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so then we move to another flashback

296
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okay

297
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and

298
00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:13,279
it is

299
00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:16,480
lucian and his best friend they're like

300
00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:19,120
14 well 15 15 16

301
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and they're chilling running around

302
00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,959
doing what 15 and 16 year old boys do

303
00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,920
causing

304
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havoc

305
00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:29,920
they're on a break from their boarding

306
00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:32,480
school or whatever and i

307
00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,279
a new housekeeper shows up and she's

308
00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,279
french and busty so obviously like

309
00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:39,839
they're super into that

310
00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:42,880
and she's like

311
00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:43,760
weirdly forward with both of them

312
00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,920
and

313
00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,880
lucian's like

314
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pass

315
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but his buddy is like i'm into that

316
00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,440
so the

317
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the 15 year old dudes are on break from

318
00:11:53,440 --> 00:12:00,880
boarding school there's a new hot

319
00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:04,160
housekeeper from france who shows up

320
00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,560
and is like i'm into 14 year olds or 15

321
00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,480
year olds i apologize apparently

322
00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:09,839
and lucian has the wherewithal to be

323
00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,800
like

324
00:12:09,839 --> 00:12:13,920
nah i'm good and it's okay

325
00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,440
you know

326
00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:20,560
i mean she's hot and he he understands

327
00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,600
the fact that she's hot but he's like

328
00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:23,120
no

329
00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,800
right

330
00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,760
so her mom his mom hates her obviously

331
00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,160
um

332
00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,399
but she starts working there

333
00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:35,360
they continue on with their summer

334
00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:37,839
it's good times to be had by all

335
00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,200
so then we're back to the present lucian

336
00:12:37,839 --> 00:12:40,800
is like

337
00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,800
so did anything happen in that flashback

338
00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,040
outside of just like an introduction to

339
00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,120
the [ __ ] housekeeper i apologize i'm

340
00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:51,519
not slut-shaming no i mean i'm pretty

341
00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:54,639
sure but yeah okay so we meet the hot

342
00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:57,040
busty french housekeeper the french maid

343
00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:58,320
the friend we yes truly we meet the

344
00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,320
french maid and they're like all right

345
00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,440
back to back to the present

346
00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,600
anyway

347
00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,680
so i am not going to give carrie that

348
00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,079
trope of the french maid i will not give

349
00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:11,360
her that um so then we're back to the

350
00:13:08,079 --> 00:13:13,440
present and lucian this is all told from

351
00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,120
first person by the way so it flashes

352
00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,320
back and forth between the different

353
00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,320
points of view

354
00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,560
so lucian

355
00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,440
obviously is creeping in the window he's

356
00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:24,160
like

357
00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,120
she looks like a sewer rat but i'm into

358
00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,680
that

359
00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,920
like that's basically like he he's very

360
00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:32,160
judgmental of her clothing why does she

361
00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,880
look like a sewer rat i don't think he's

362
00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,800
like a normal day and he's like

363
00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,360
you're like did she fall in a pool and

364
00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,040
he's like i'm into sewer

365
00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,519
i don't think he used those words

366
00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,040
necessarily but she had it's like he's

367
00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:47,040
describing she has on a lot of like

368
00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,040
heavy eye makeup and she's wearing like

369
00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,760
clothes that don't fit well and are very

370
00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:55,199
clearly old and threadbare she's wearing

371
00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:58,000
um like galoshes that don't fit properly

372
00:13:55,199 --> 00:14:00,399
it's like a whole thing and he's like

373
00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,959
yikes but also

374
00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:04,800
um

375
00:14:02,959 --> 00:14:07,839
like ew but also

376
00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,199
maybe exactly okay exactly and izzy

377
00:14:07,839 --> 00:14:10,560
doesn't have a car or anything so

378
00:14:09,199 --> 00:14:13,040
they're you know they go through the

379
00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:14,880
whole thing of like you know well

380
00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,079
you you can use the

381
00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,360
my driver situation whatever and we

382
00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:20,480
expect you to be here pretty much all

383
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,560
the time just let us know when you're

384
00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,279
leaving blah blah blah and lucian is

385
00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,040
like eavesdropping a lot because he

386
00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:30,000
doesn't really want to meet her because

387
00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:32,800
he's like my scars oh he still hasn't

388
00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,480
met her at this point no no no he's just

389
00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,639
like

390
00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,240
sort of there

391
00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:40,800
they're just like

392
00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:44,240
circling around each other in this house

393
00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:46,079
without ever actually yeah okay yes so

394
00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,160
lucian is

395
00:14:46,079 --> 00:14:49,760
obviously super into her but like trying

396
00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,760
not to be weird about it and then

397
00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,279
there's also

398
00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:57,680
this this like secret society illuminati

399
00:14:55,279 --> 00:14:58,800
situation happening

400
00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,440
and so

401
00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:04,160
um these guys show up to meet with

402
00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:08,000
lucian and they have these like

403
00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:10,160
super secret rings that like have a

404
00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,560
moth on them i think i don't remember

405
00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,560
how secret can a ring be you'll wear it

406
00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:18,000
on your hand i don't

407
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:20,399
i don't know i i i'm telling you like

408
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,199
i'm sorry you were you are giving your

409
00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:24,880
best representation of this book and i'm

410
00:15:23,199 --> 00:15:27,360
i'm not [ __ ] on your representation

411
00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:30,000
i'm [ __ ] on the book

412
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,639
because i'm like the super secret

413
00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,959
moth rings for their secret society i'm

414
00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:36,800
like is it really that [ __ ] secret so

415
00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:40,880
when i think of

416
00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:43,040
like these rings i think of um

417
00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,759
and when our powers combine like a

418
00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,839
captain planet situation

419
00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:50,240
and i know that's not what was intended

420
00:15:47,839 --> 00:15:52,000
like i'm fully aware of that but i just

421
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,839
that's where my brain goes so he's

422
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,519
meeting with these men who are like

423
00:15:53,839 --> 00:15:57,920
you're supposed to be

424
00:15:55,519 --> 00:16:00,639
more involved with the organization and

425
00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,800
he's like i don't want to

426
00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:05,279
he's like not into it

427
00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,279
and so apparently he's experiencing a

428
00:16:05,279 --> 00:16:09,600
lot of pressure but we still don't know

429
00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:12,240
what this organization does or what its

430
00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,800
purpose is or what the [ __ ] is going on

431
00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:18,000
right so there's just some men with moth

432
00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,560
rings pressuring him to be more involved

433
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:25,120
end of our knowledge got it yes

434
00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:26,880
so and then as we continue to move

435
00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,720
izzy's getting settled i'm gonna speed

436
00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:32,240
up a little bit izzy's getting settled

437
00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:34,720
um she meets the mom again still super

438
00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,279
weird but she spends time with her she

439
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:40,240
reads to her and she's very into like

440
00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:41,920
harlequin romance so you know

441
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,440
she'd probably like this podcast she

442
00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,759
would love it

443
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,399
uh but she's also super like buttoned up

444
00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:50,079
and conservative which is just you know

445
00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:51,920
a very interesting dichotomy for

446
00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:54,160
character development that was a choice

447
00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:57,279
that that carrie made

448
00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,480
so izzy reads to her she

449
00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:00,639
plays her

450
00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,519
some songs on the piano

451
00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:04,400
she's like trying to figure out

452
00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:05,679
what

453
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,839
i don't know what her life is supposed

454
00:17:05,679 --> 00:17:10,720
to look like now that she's in this role

455
00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:12,640
um obviously they have a private chef

456
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:16,799
obviously

457
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:19,120
and so the private chef uh

458
00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:21,679
keeps coming on to izzy makes her meals

459
00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:23,600
and stuff and so izzy one day

460
00:17:21,679 --> 00:17:25,679
was working late because the mom had

461
00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,600
some kind of issue or something and so

462
00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:30,320
she goes down

463
00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,000
to eat and there's this massive dog that

464
00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,280
she essentially describes as a hell

465
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,400
beast it sounds like some kind of

466
00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,240
mastiff

467
00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,640
like this massive dog

468
00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,880
is there and she's like i'm gonna die

469
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,080
and so she takes off running which by

470
00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,799
the way

471
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,320
um don't do that

472
00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:48,960
prank

473
00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:52,480
i don't care if it's a dog or a bear or

474
00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:54,559
whatever you don't run from a predator

475
00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,559
you just you just don't do that so the

476
00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:58,840
dog got super excited and decided to

477
00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:02,320
chase her

478
00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:04,799
down just to like lick on her not to do

479
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:07,039
anything bad to her

480
00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:09,440
so misunderstood right he's just sitting

481
00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:11,280
there wanting all the love so and and

482
00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,200
just to be totally honest of all of the

483
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,840
characters in this book the dog is my

484
00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,840
favorite

485
00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,039
his character arc for me is like

486
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,760
the one

487
00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:26,559
character arc

488
00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,039
really the the jaw the dog's personal

489
00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:31,840
growth development through this through

490
00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:34,000
this novel is

491
00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,760
jeff's kiss as we peel back the layers

492
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,000
for him you know okay

493
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,840
so anyway so this is how she meets

494
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,559
lucian because lucian shows up and gets

495
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,640
the dog and he tells her like you're a

496
00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:47,120
[ __ ] idiot don't ever run from him

497
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,440
right and she's like okay

498
00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:51,039
um also you're super hot but like try

499
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,480
not to be weird about it

500
00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:54,840
and so

501
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,760
um that's how they meet he's a total

502
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,600
[ __ ] she's like [ __ ] you like

503
00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,200
they're they're only meeting now oh my

504
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,200
god yeah she's been there for like two

505
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,880
or three days and like living in the

506
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,120
same house

507
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,559
oh and i forgot she also feels like

508
00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:11,120
someone is watching her sleep which is

509
00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:12,960
really fun for everybody um but she

510
00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,640
cannot prove that and there's a nurse

511
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,039
who also works there

512
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:20,080
um taking care of the mom and she's like

513
00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:22,840
yeah you're gonna wanna avoid the devil

514
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:25,039
of bone salt that's bad news

515
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,960
bears and it's like giving her all this

516
00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:28,240
information and izzy is like jesus

517
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,600
christ like i'm just trying to get a

518
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,440
paycheck so i can get out of this

519
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,799
[ __ ] town right now like please leave

520
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,919
me alone

521
00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:36,480
so anyway

522
00:19:33,919 --> 00:19:39,039
um all that happens she finally meets

523
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,160
lucian it is not a very auspicious

524
00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:42,720
meeting

525
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,360
great vocab word thank you very much i

526
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,600
feel really good about my sat scores and

527
00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:50,080
that makes one of us

528
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:52,320
i don't remember my s.a.t scores i

529
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,720
stayed out with friends the night before

530
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:58,400
and forgot i had to take them so then i

531
00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:01,200
retook them because it was not the score

532
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,159
anyone in my family was hoping for

533
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,440
i

534
00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:08,480
oh god i had to take them twice also

535
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:10,960
because i had juvenile epilepsy and so

536
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,679
they didn't realize that i needed like

537
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:16,159
like special accommodations

538
00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:17,440
and so i show up like kind of high on my

539
00:20:16,159 --> 00:20:19,840
medication

540
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,120
and like take the test and i i didn't

541
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,840
have time to finish because that was a

542
00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:26,400
little high and they were like

543
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,200
that's really tough for you

544
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,799
so

545
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,200
you actually had to get like medical

546
00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:33,840
accommodations right the second time

547
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,600
well at least you had an excuse i did

548
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,799
you did

549
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,720
and apparently i grew out of it so

550
00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:43,280
i got what i needed

551
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:46,799
the extra time on the sats and now i'm

552
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,559
done so that was the cure

553
00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:50,880
that was all i was waiting for billy i

554
00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:52,960
got special accommodations on the sats

555
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,600
and voila

556
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,600
cured i no longer had juvenile epilepsy

557
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,520
yeah just no more seizures for me it was

558
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,799
really great

559
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,600
um so anyway

560
00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:05,520
so

561
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,600
so par parting ways with juvenile

562
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,520
epilepsy let's get back to lucian and

563
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,799
his scars i really love our tangents

564
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,039
they're just really perfect for

565
00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:15,120
everybody to be

566
00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:17,120
you know experiencing so we have another

567
00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:19,280
flashback

568
00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:22,000
uh is the is the

569
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:26,720
[ __ ] french maid in the flashback yes

570
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:29,440
yes so um lucian so there are sea caves

571
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,919
so lucian

572
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,679
and his friend um decide they're gonna

573
00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:35,440
meet up at the sea caves and like smoke

574
00:21:33,679 --> 00:21:37,440
a little weed and drink a little so the

575
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,360
mansion isn't a coastal city yes thank

576
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,159
you sorry it's in it's in a new england

577
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:43,200
like

578
00:21:40,159 --> 00:21:46,799
cape situation okay yes

579
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,600
so there are sea caves so

580
00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:50,640
so

581
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,400
lucian is uh supposed to be meeting his

582
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,120
friend at the

583
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,039
sea caves uh again to like smoke a

584
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:59,679
little weed drink a little do teenage

585
00:21:57,039 --> 00:22:02,880
boy [ __ ] and um

586
00:21:59,679 --> 00:22:04,320
apparently his friend decides to bring

587
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,559
the french maid

588
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,320
with him

589
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:10,080
and you know as any grown woman wants to

590
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:15,600
do hang out in some sea caves with some

591
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:18,240
15 year old boys yeah yeah so then um

592
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,120
his friend is not shy

593
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,880
right

594
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:23,840
so he is like

595
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:26,880
saying things that frankly

596
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:30,080
no one should say like much less a

597
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,559
teenage boy like you know

598
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,880
making a lot of demands on this french

599
00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,880
woman

600
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:40,000
so

601
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:41,919
lucian and she's like inviting lucian to

602
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,679
participate and he's like

603
00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:44,799
no

604
00:22:43,679 --> 00:22:46,960
i'm not

605
00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:50,000
i'm not [ __ ] you with my best friend

606
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,840
thank you though like i'm not doing that

607
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,200
so the best friend is putting the moves

608
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,360
on the french maid and the french maid

609
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,919
is in turn putting the moves on lucian

610
00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:59,760
yes man i wonder how the

611
00:22:57,919 --> 00:23:01,919
best friend feels about that i mean he

612
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,320
was pretty into it from

613
00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:07,520
what i gathered you right

614
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,919
so lucian just sits there in the sea

615
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,919
cave smoking weed watching his best

616
00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:14,080
friend [ __ ] this french maid

617
00:23:11,919 --> 00:23:15,919
and then she comes over and is like your

618
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,720
turn and he's like

619
00:23:15,919 --> 00:23:21,520
no like i don't i don't live for sloppy

620
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,919
seconds thank you does he say that to

621
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,440
her basically yeah hang on let me let me

622
00:23:23,919 --> 00:23:26,960
find the exact quote because he

623
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,480
definitely

624
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:33,520
that's brutal so first of all she said

625
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,400
come young master [ __ ] me

626
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,480
and

627
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,480
he's like i don't [ __ ] seconds

628
00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:44,159
and her response is i should have let

629
00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:46,720
you have me first then i'll just have to

630
00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:51,200
pretend and then she masturbates in

631
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,919
front of him while calling his name

632
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,720
so

633
00:23:51,919 --> 00:23:56,880
that and that's the flashback

634
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,919
and that's the flashback i'm like okay

635
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,000
but here's the other thing so

636
00:23:59,919 --> 00:24:04,400
their children

637
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,080
their their they're children

638
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,600
and i'm just like

639
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,640
ew

640
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,880
gross

641
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:14,480
yeah nothing about

642
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:16,720
that scene feels like arousing

643
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,500
no it feels like

644
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,720
this isn't a good vibe that's happening

645
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:23,279
[Music]

646
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,320
now mind you is that because both of us

647
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:26,480
are

648
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,480
mandated reporters

649
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,640
for abuse

650
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,440
like may that might be like we both had

651
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,840
to call cps on more than one occasion

652
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,440
in our jobs is that why like it's is

653
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,960
that what it is because there's

654
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,880
definitely a disconnect with this where

655
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,600
i'm like nope this feels

656
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,679
this doesn't feel sexy this feels

657
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,000
like a grown ass woman

658
00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:50,960
is masturbating to a 15 year old in

659
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,559
front of him right very predatory and i

660
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,640
i mean i would like to think that it's

661
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:57,200
not just being a mandated reporter that

662
00:24:54,640 --> 00:25:01,840
like morally as a person i would object

663
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,840
to that also that yes we do have morals

664
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,919
and if i think about it like if this

665
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:07,840
book if the gender roles were flipped

666
00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:09,919
and a man was doing this with a girl it

667
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,760
would be like

668
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:13,679
you wouldn't write that down you know

669
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,400
what i mean like it would or it would

670
00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:17,360
very clearly be like a trauma arc and

671
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,640
not

672
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:21,840
sort of like

673
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,039
slated to be sexy i also like here's the

674
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,360
thing

675
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:28,640
i don't think i've ever seen a 15 year

676
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:30,720
old boy even if he lifts even if he like

677
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,919
works out on a regular basis and been

678
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,240
like

679
00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:36,320
i'm into that like right there's always

680
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,480
at that age like i've never seen a 15

681
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,720
year old boy been like what i thought

682
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,360
they were at least

683
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,960
legal like there's something i'm like no

684
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:47,760
you still look

685
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,840
like a 15 year old like a even if you're

686
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,080
a little kid 15 year old

687
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:55,840
for other 15 year olds they're 15 year

688
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,960
olds yes important clarifying

689
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,960
real weird

690
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,770
we're just gonna bow out while we're

691
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,320
behind anyway

692
00:26:00,770 --> 00:26:03,919
[Laughter]

693
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,400
so

694
00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:07,840
she closes by saying next time i'll have

695
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,600
you first

696
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:14,159
so she i guess she felt the need to

697
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,480
to reiterate that and that is the end of

698
00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:19,039
the flashback and we are back to present

699
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:23,600
day with izzy

700
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:25,919
so she is again she's settling in

701
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,880
she really really likes lucian

702
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:28,320
um

703
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,400
and

704
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,559
well so i shouldn't say she likes him

705
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,520
she is into him she thinks he's super

706
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,840
hot

707
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,799
um she's very curious about her scars

708
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:41,840
and how he got them um

709
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:44,799
and so he's got this like air of mystery

710
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,120
he's an older man so she's like into

711
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:48,080
that i think he's 12 years older than

712
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:50,000
her

713
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,960
um

714
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,880
so

715
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,240
31

716
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,760
something like that yeah i don't

717
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,080
remember his exact age but i'm pretty

718
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,559
sure it's around then um

719
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,559
and then

720
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,559
we have another flashback

721
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,720
that chapter is just izzy like getting

722
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,640
used to getting settled yeah so we have

723
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,880
another flashback we learned that

724
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,240
lucian's father is extremely abusive

725
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,760
towards him

726
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,720
um

727
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,120
and

728
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,960
uh the french maid is continuing to

729
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,880
shoot her shot

730
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,440
um

731
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,640
and she tells him how just disappointed

732
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:31,520
she was that he didn't

733
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:35,440
like [ __ ] her like oh my god

734
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,880
um she she seems really hung up um

735
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,200
this child

736
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,919
she is okay

737
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,080
she's into a lot of things

738
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:46,080
and we'll get more into that because i

739
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,320
learn a lot about this french maid whose

740
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,279
name is solange that i wish i didn't

741
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,480
know

742
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:53,440
so

743
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,440
uh yeah

744
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,240
he's just

745
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,880
yeah

746
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,679
she's continuing to come on to him

747
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,399
and

748
00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:05,520
she is like wanting to

749
00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:08,000
teach him things tells him to come back

750
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,080
to the sea cave and he's like no no no

751
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,159
she's like you you totally you totally

752
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,080
should so he does obviously because he's

753
00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:16,720
a 16 year old boy and this woman with

754
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,720
huge tits is like um let me [ __ ] you

755
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,000
right like in the seat cave in the sea

756
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,559
cave

757
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,000
so she won't be second this time and you

758
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,159
won't be sad

759
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,480
so he

760
00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:30,399
i think she she just gives him a hand

761
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,600
job at this point

762
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:35,200
but she

763
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:37,760
like ties him up and lets the water rise

764
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,000
enough so that his head is under water

765
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,880
and he can't breathe

766
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,360
and so then he has this like super

767
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,279
powerful orgasm because breath play and

768
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,520
he's like what the [ __ ]

769
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:51,360
and she said something about like you've

770
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,919
just experienced the petite more right

771
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,520
like the small death of orgasm and he's

772
00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:56,399
like that's amazing teach me everything

773
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,120
you know

774
00:28:56,399 --> 00:29:00,720
and that's the end of that flashback

775
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,200
[ __ ] book man

776
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,200
okay so

777
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:09,360
so she's teaching him about breath play

778
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,360
by letting the tide rise in the sea cave

779
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,679
while she gives him a hand job but

780
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,559
because he couldn't breathe it really

781
00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:19,360
when he could finally breathe his orgasm

782
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:21,760
was incredible yes

783
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,360
this yeah this makes sense go on so she

784
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,360
just gives him a proper nantucket

785
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,360
handshake

786
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,919
i have

787
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,600
we'll get into that later

788
00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:37,360
we'll get into that later

789
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,480
um anyway

790
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,000
so

791
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,600
yeah i have to speed this up because

792
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,000
there's just so much happening

793
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,799
you really so much [ __ ] chaos and so

794
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,520
she

795
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:47,440
so

796
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,120
it we're back to izzy she's having

797
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,559
nightmares of this trauma that we still

798
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,640
don't know what happened

799
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:54,399
she's doing all this stuff

800
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,480
trying to get to know

801
00:29:54,399 --> 00:29:58,159
what's going on she's interacting with

802
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,080
lucian a little bit more he's hearing

803
00:29:58,159 --> 00:30:01,200
her play the piano and he's like oh my

804
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,520
stars

805
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,919
and she's like you know that's just what

806
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,120
i do like don't worry about it

807
00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:10,159
um then we have more flashbacks again of

808
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,320
knowing

809
00:30:10,159 --> 00:30:13,840
like learning more about how abusive his

810
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,559
dad is

811
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,320
it's just a [ __ ] mess you guys like i

812
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:20,159
just don't

813
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,120
i just don't know

814
00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:25,919
i just don't know so

815
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,279
we're continuing on this journey of izzy

816
00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:29,919
settling in

817
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:32,960
and pretty much every other every other

818
00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:35,600
chapter is a flashback so

819
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,880
lucian is banging the french maid more

820
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,000
regularly

821
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,840
and

822
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,600
learning more about breath play

823
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,320
apparently he's also a little bit into

824
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,120
knife play um he doesn't like using the

825
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,360
knife he likes to use it on himself but

826
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,200
he hasn't done it with her so that's a

827
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,760
whole thing his father is very

828
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,840
disappointed by all of this

829
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,320
well actually his father is very proud

830
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,519
because he thinks that lucian is

831
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,120
sadistic and lucian is not but his dad

832
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:05,120
thinks that he is because he finds the

833
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,640
knife and he finds like some porn that

834
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,679
that suggests that

835
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,440
and so his dad is like finally

836
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:13,600
you're my real son

837
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,360
which is that's a weird father-son

838
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,399
bonding experience it's just a really

839
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,880
strange bar to set you know

840
00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:24,000
so i've been waiting to find out you're

841
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,000
into knife play

842
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,399
so

843
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,600
dad is like

844
00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:32,640
basically

845
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:35,840
disclosing his sexual proclivities

846
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,640
which is a lot to digest

847
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,279
so

848
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,200
lucian is continuing to fight his

849
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:43,679
attraction to izzy because he feels like

850
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,960
she's too young he winds up fingering

851
00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:49,039
her on the piano bench i guess and after

852
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,559
she plays and then he's like

853
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,880
i made you like a needy little [ __ ]

854
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:56,880
didn't i too bad you're too young

855
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:59,200
love you bye and like that's it you know

856
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,279
and she's like what the [ __ ]

857
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,120
and yeah that's just

858
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:05,760
that's just how it happens

859
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,399
so interspersed with all of this we also

860
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,519
meet the mayor of this town

861
00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:11,039
the mayor

862
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:14,240
really really really really really wants

863
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:17,760
to be a part of this secret organization

864
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:20,480
lest we forget the moth rings that

865
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:24,159
lucian is a part of and so he is coming

866
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:27,039
to lucian petitioning to join this group

867
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:30,000
he is also lucian's father-in-law

868
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:32,159
because lucian was married

869
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,000
he also had a son so this is part of

870
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:36,640
where all of the like urban legend about

871
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,200
this family comes in because

872
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:42,799
lucian's son disappeared

873
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:45,120
and then his wife killed herself

874
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:47,279
so there's a lot of speculation about

875
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,840
what happened to the son and if he

876
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:52,000
actually killed the wife right so the

877
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,200
wife is the mayor's daughter so he comes

878
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,919
to lucian

879
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,080
as his father-in-law and is like do this

880
00:32:55,919 --> 00:33:00,080
for me we're family and lucian's like

881
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,760
jesus christ i [ __ ] hate you like

882
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,880
basically right

883
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,679
um

884
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,279
and

885
00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:07,679
his father-in-law is like let me on the

886
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:09,679
secret society and lucian's like you

887
00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:12,320
remind me of all of my trauma leave me

888
00:33:09,679 --> 00:33:13,840
the [ __ ] alone yes precisely precisely

889
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,720
so

890
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,640
um

891
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,000
more flashbacks

892
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,440
my favorite flashback well favorite i

893
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,360
don't know that that's the word because

894
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,399
again we don't have a word for this book

895
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,240
we don't have a word so

896
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:31,120
the flashback that stands out the most

897
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,519
to me we'll say it that way is lucian is

898
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,200
at a dinner party the french maid is

899
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:36,720
serving

900
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,440
at the dinner party

901
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,720
she is like stroking him and [ __ ] in

902
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,960
front of people

903
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,640
on the sly hoping no one will notice and

904
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,640
he's super into it

905
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,360
so then she tells him she's gonna come

906
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,080
to him later that's great

907
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,080
he gets up because she disappears and he

908
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,080
wants to go find her

909
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,559
and he hears her

910
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,640
getting [ __ ] by his father

911
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:04,399
while he uses because his mother was

912
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:06,799
apparently a rhythmic gymnast

913
00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:08,560
apparently she twirled baton

914
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:11,839
so i don't know what you call that a

915
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:14,560
baton twirler so i had a friend she was

916
00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:17,119
and like internationally ranked baton

917
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,800
twirler but i gotta say

918
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:20,159
true like the i was like i kind of

919
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,399
laughed and then the first time i saw

920
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:24,560
her like actually like do her like baton

921
00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:26,240
routine i was like this is

922
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,599
the most impressive thing i feel like

923
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:28,960
i've seen in person in a really long

924
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,879
time and then i felt like an [ __ ] and

925
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,079
i'm like you know what who am i to judge

926
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:33,679
your art

927
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:35,679
and who am i to judge carrie's art with

928
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:38,560
master of salt and bone i was going to

929
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:41,599
say i am judging carrie's art i am not

930
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,040
judging i am not judging

931
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:45,520
i'm not no

932
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,119
uh it is beautiful and majestic

933
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,520
follow your bliss

934
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:51,280
so

935
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,879
the reason that's important is because

936
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:57,839
his dad is using his mother's

937
00:34:54,879 --> 00:35:01,839
like award-winning baton to [ __ ] the

938
00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:05,119
maid in the ass while he rails her

939
00:35:01,839 --> 00:35:06,240
and she's like i love it so dirty i'm so

940
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:09,119
into that

941
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:12,320
solange seems to have very few moral

942
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:13,520
hang-ups in her life

943
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200
again i

944
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,000
okay so i would say i'm not here to

945
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:20,480
judge but she's [ __ ] children so i'm

946
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,800
here to judge that and their parents and

947
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,280
their parents i'm here to judge the

948
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,440
pedophilia you know right i think that's

949
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,599
a fair judgment right i'm not here to

950
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,079
kink shame in other ways so all that's

951
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:34,240
happening lucian feels betrayed

952
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:35,520
solange comes to him and is like i only

953
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,359
ever wanted you

954
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,440
you know i have to because he's gonna

955
00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:42,480
fire me whatever whatever and lucian's

956
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,079
like that was [ __ ] disgusting

957
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,240
like holy [ __ ] well he didn't like

958
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:49,040
sharing her with his best friend i can't

959
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:51,119
imagine sharing her with his father

960
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,920
felt better

961
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,920
yeah no no

962
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,440
sorry i needed a whiskey break after

963
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,280
that

964
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,560
so then

965
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,359
uh

966
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,040
again we flash back to present

967
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:08,079
the izzy's getting more and more

968
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,680
information about lucian's wife and that

969
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:11,920
whole situation

970
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,880
she finds out that she did kill herself

971
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:17,920
she like jumped off a balcony

972
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:20,640
um she continues to kind of like want to

973
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,560
be close to lucian and he is continuing

974
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,520
to like fight his desire for her

975
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,920
whatever

976
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,040
um mom continues to be super creepy and

977
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,800
weird

978
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,520
and then

979
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,119
at some point izzy gets a phone call

980
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,920
from her aunt

981
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:39,359
and her aunt is like i just had the [ __ ]

982
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:42,960
beat out of me by your mom's drug dealer

983
00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:44,079
she owes him a ton of money she took off

984
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,680
um

985
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:47,839
they said they're gonna kill me if we

986
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,880
don't get this money and it's a lot of

987
00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:50,400
money

988
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,560
like

989
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,640
like what how

990
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,520
did she get that whatever

991
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,359
like how did she obtain that that many

992
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,760
drugs like i guess she was

993
00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:04,160
like acting as a courier or something

994
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:07,280
whatever the point is

995
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,440
izzy steals an antique doll

996
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,160
oh from lucian's mother and her creepy

997
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,680
doll collection precisely okay precisely

998
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,359
so that she can pay off these drug

999
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,680
dealers and um as she is trying to leave

1000
00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:21,599
the house she drops the doll and it

1001
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,400
breaks in front of the butler and he's

1002
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:25,839
like what the [ __ ] dude like for real

1003
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,119
come on now

1004
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:30,720
so then izzy goes to lucian and he oh

1005
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:32,240
and she has been

1006
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:34,240
bought a whole new wardrobe at this

1007
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,920
point so she's like looking super cute

1008
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,800
all the time and lucian's like god damn

1009
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,480
it

1010
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,599
so

1011
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,280
um

1012
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:43,119
lucian is like what the [ __ ] are you

1013
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,640
doing like

1014
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,480
what are you doing and so she explains

1015
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,040
the situation to him he's like i'll fix

1016
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:52,400
it whatever and she's like

1017
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,160
okay and she's like like fix the broken

1018
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,200
doll or fix

1019
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,119
the

1020
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,160
the family debt

1021
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:01,599
okay both i guess so um

1022
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,520
yeah so

1023
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:04,960
izzy's like i mean i know i'm fired and

1024
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,359
he's like you're not fired you can never

1025
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,599
leave here like oh good so some weird

1026
00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:11,119
beauty and the beast vibes like you're

1027
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:13,599
here forever now

1028
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:15,920
um and so

1029
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:19,200
yeah so then izzy gets another phone

1030
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,079
call that her mom is dead

1031
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:24,079
she has apparently overdosed

1032
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:25,680
so she's very upset

1033
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:26,960
she tells lucian she needs to take some

1034
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,599
time off

1035
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,280
and all that good stuff and

1036
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,720
um izzy

1037
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,640
is really struggling with this whole

1038
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:36,880
thing nobody really shows up to her

1039
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,880
mom's funeral lucian sends a lot of

1040
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,160
flowers it's just her and her aunt there

1041
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,000
at the funeral

1042
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,480
and then as she's leaving the funeral

1043
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,000
home the mayor shows up

1044
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,680
and he's like i i used to be your mom's

1045
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,000
high school teacher she was such an

1046
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,760
amazing young woman you know

1047
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,440
i'm so sad that her life turned out the

1048
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,520
way that it did i just wanted to pay my

1049
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:01,280
respects and just to make sure i'm

1050
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:05,200
remembering correctly the mayor is

1051
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:07,599
lucian's deceased wife's father correct

1052
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:10,079
and he shows up to

1053
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:12,480
izzy's mother's funeral and it's like i

1054
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:14,720
was her high school teacher correct and

1055
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,839
i came to pay my respects correct okay

1056
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:20,240
small town yeah yeah yeah um

1057
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:21,280
small coastal town

1058
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:24,160
so

1059
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:26,640
sea caves with sea caves is it a coastal

1060
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,960
town if it doesn't have sea caves i mean

1061
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:32,079
technically yes

1062
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:35,280
i guess to be fair

1063
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:37,839
oh [ __ ] so anyway

1064
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,920
this book y'all oh my god

1065
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:41,920
so i feel like there's still a lot of

1066
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,880
there's so much we might have to like

1067
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,800
like

1068
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,720
speed i'm just gonna speed it up so

1069
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,119
there's another flashback at some point

1070
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:50,560
lucian meets a girl at a party her like

1071
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,400
their parents really want them to get to

1072
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,079
know each other it turns out that it is

1073
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,320
the mayor's daughter and he does wind up

1074
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:58,400
marrying her however the reason he winds

1075
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,079
up marrying her is because she was

1076
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,680
coming on to him pretty strong during

1077
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:05,440
this party they [ __ ] in a closet like

1078
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,680
a supply closet

1079
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,240
um but he could not

1080
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,160
orgasm i guess because she wasn't

1081
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:14,800
choking him or hurting him

1082
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,160
and he was like it's all it's all good

1083
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,079
like

1084
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,079
this has been great all of his sexual

1085
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:21,920
experiences with solange and breath play

1086
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:23,839
really did not set him up for success

1087
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,319
they did with other sexual experiences

1088
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:28,480
because to be fair if someone else is an

1089
00:40:26,319 --> 00:40:30,319
into breath play it is a

1090
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,119
interesting conversation to try and

1091
00:40:30,319 --> 00:40:34,640
bring up especially in the moment yeah

1092
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:36,640
that's not like you i don't feel like

1093
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,880
you can do spontaneous breath play with

1094
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,119
a new partner you know not your first

1095
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,119
time no no no no no there it is you got

1096
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:45,440
to build that trust yeah and there needs

1097
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:48,880
to be some conversation around that

1098
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,720
so then turns out she shows like she's

1099
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,560
staying with them for some reason i

1100
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:55,520
don't really remember why she's staying

1101
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,359
at the manor and she's like continuing

1102
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,599
to try to like cozy up to lucian and

1103
00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:02,720
he's like for real babe like that was

1104
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:03,839
terrible not really into any of this

1105
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:07,440
and so

1106
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:11,440
then turns out she is pregnant and she's

1107
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:14,000
like it's your baby and he's like um

1108
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,079
isn't that i mean and

1109
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,920
he's like she's like no like you're the

1110
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:19,359
only person that i've slept with in like

1111
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,319
the last six months or whatever like it

1112
00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:23,680
has to be you he's like well

1113
00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:25,520
cool

1114
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,920
uh what

1115
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,920
and the mayor and his dad are like cool

1116
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,160
story you're getting married

1117
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,599
how old are they at this point in like

1118
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:38,400
early 20s okay yeah like i think like

1119
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:41,119
that they just finished college okay

1120
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,200
yeah or he did he's no longer a child

1121
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:45,359
he's no longer a child thank god so we

1122
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,319
don't have a child bride situation in

1123
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:49,839
conjunction with the general pedophilia

1124
00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:52,000
yeah

1125
00:41:49,839 --> 00:41:55,359
so

1126
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,440
um izzy um is continuing to play the

1127
00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:59,119
piano she and lucian are continuing to

1128
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,119
have running run-ins that are like

1129
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,960
increasing in spiciness

1130
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:04,800
um

1131
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,640
she's continuing to have nightmares and

1132
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,000
all this stuff from whatever trauma she

1133
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,119
experienced

1134
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,470
um

1135
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:10,640
she

1136
00:42:09,470 --> 00:42:12,560
[Music]

1137
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,400
lucian winds up seeing a bunch of scars

1138
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,960
on her arms from apparently where she

1139
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,580
was cutting herself and he's like joke's

1140
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,680
on you i'm into that and she's like what

1141
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:24,480
[Music]

1142
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,480
oh my god

1143
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:30,800
like being into knife play and

1144
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,960
self-harming are not

1145
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,240
they're very different things

1146
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,480
so

1147
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:38,720
and we won't get into like the dsm-5

1148
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,240
situation of it all

1149
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,760
but this

1150
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:45,119
this is like

1151
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:47,599
a a bdsm five situation

1152
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:49,280
and it's not good

1153
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,720
oh my god

1154
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,400
oh my god

1155
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:55,200
i've never been more proud of you for a

1156
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,960
joke in my entire life

1157
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,680
honestly i'm pretty [ __ ] proud of

1158
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,359
myself bdsm five

1159
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,720
no one who

1160
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:04,480
if you don't work in mental health that

1161
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:07,680
is not gonna be nearly as funny to you

1162
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,599
but i'm losing my [ __ ] over here

1163
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,520
i feel pretty good about it

1164
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:13,440
and for our target audience i hope you

1165
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,359
appreciated it

1166
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,160
so

1167
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:18,400
so

1168
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,760
yeah so it turns out obviously she's

1169
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,720
been doing a lot of self-harming all

1170
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,240
this other crazy shit's going on

1171
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,599
they're continuing to get closer and

1172
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,599
closer

1173
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:29,440
the organization is continuing to show

1174
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:31,280
up and pressure lucian

1175
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,280
we're continuing to have flashbacks of

1176
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,040
him

1177
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,640
i don't even know what he's doing in

1178
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,920
these flashbacks anymore none of it

1179
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,200
makes sense

1180
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,599
and so oh in one of them his dad takes

1181
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,119
him down to the like catacombs the like

1182
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:48,160
basement

1183
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:50,319
under the house area under the coastal

1184
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,520
mansion with the sea caves under the

1185
00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:54,640
coastal mansion that is near the sea

1186
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,839
caves

1187
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,920
and um which by the way if you know

1188
00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:02,640
anything about living on the coast there

1189
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:04,560
would not be catacombs or a basement

1190
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,160
because flooding that [ __ ] happens all

1191
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,760
the time we don't live like that on the

1192
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,400
coast thank you

1193
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,640
well

1194
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,119
you have two podcast hosts from florida

1195
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,800
so we have a lot of opinions on flooding

1196
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:16,960
so

1197
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,280
among other things among other things

1198
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,520
buckle in flooding and alligators we

1199
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,640
really know our strengths

1200
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,880
and smut

1201
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,280
so

1202
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,680
sometimes all three so

1203
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,520
quintessential florida obviously so his

1204
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,359
dad takes him down to this basement and

1205
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,040
there's this man strapped in down there

1206
00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:37,280
and his dad is like you need to torture

1207
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:40,400
this guy and lucian's like what the [ __ ]

1208
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:43,680
dude like no and he's like yeah you're

1209
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:47,119
gonna do it and you're gonna like it

1210
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:49,599
so obviously lucian has been subject to

1211
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:51,359
his father's torture for years and now

1212
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:53,040
he is being forced to torture other

1213
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:55,440
people

1214
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,640
once again different than being into

1215
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,359
knife play very much so

1216
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,599
so lucian

1217
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:04,960
apparently part of this organization

1218
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:06,720
they they're doing research and

1219
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,240
experience on

1220
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:10,880
sociopathy

1221
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:13,359
and so they pay people who are like

1222
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:16,160
desperate for money to volunteer

1223
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:18,400
essentially to be tortured and so his

1224
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,079
dad is like he's not gonna get paid if

1225
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,079
you don't torture him his family's gonna

1226
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:24,720
starve is that what you want like

1227
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:27,280
[ __ ] torture him great super really

1228
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:28,160
good for a young person's psyche

1229
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,839
so

1230
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:33,680
that's my professional opinion

1231
00:45:30,839 --> 00:45:35,119
so all this is happening

1232
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,839
izzy

1233
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:39,520
he decides he wants izzy to play piano

1234
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:42,319
at this big party

1235
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,319
and he it's like a masquerade situation

1236
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:46,720
and he tells her

1237
00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:49,440
not to talk to any of the men there

1238
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:51,520
and to like stick close to him because

1239
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,680
apparently these are like organization

1240
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,800
people and so he's very nervous about

1241
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,800
her

1242
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,119
being around them

1243
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,760
so she plays so it's an illuminati party

1244
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:04,079
that she's playing the piano for yes and

1245
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,640
the mayor shows up um

1246
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:08,880
and talks to her and makes her super

1247
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,880
uncomfortable and she's like big yikes

1248
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,119
all around to all of this

1249
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,560
and straight up y'all i have no idea if

1250
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:16,240
i'm telling you this story in

1251
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,440
chronological order at this point i

1252
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,359
don't think it matters it just doesn't

1253
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,520
matter i'm truly reading it didn't feel

1254
00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:22,560
like there was a chronological it didn't

1255
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,520
it didn't

1256
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,440
so

1257
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,359
mayor shows up she's uncomfortable

1258
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,359
lucian gets really upset that the mayor

1259
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:31,359
is talking to her at all like drags her

1260
00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:33,680
outside and then like eats her out in

1261
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:35,280
the garden like in

1262
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,160
i was gonna say broad daylight it's not

1263
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,760
broad daylight because it's at night

1264
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,720
but like just out in the open but in the

1265
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,520
open of the garden under the starlight

1266
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:48,880
precisely yes where they could be seen

1267
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,319
yes yes and she's like holy [ __ ] i'm

1268
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,880
super into that

1269
00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:55,440
so they're continuing to like have this

1270
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,680
burgeoning sexual relationship with

1271
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,839
knife play and breath play and all this

1272
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,680
other fun and interesting stuff

1273
00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:02,800
and um

1274
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,560
so

1275
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,960
and the mayor continues to come around

1276
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,440
and be weird and we don't understand why

1277
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,000
and the mom continues to be weird have

1278
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,319
like weird dementia outbursts that's

1279
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,280
like what the [ __ ] lucian's mother

1280
00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:19,599
lucious izzy's mother is dead

1281
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,079
yes dead because the mayor went to the

1282
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:23,599
funeral yes yes okay yes

1283
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,760
um

1284
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:26,560
and then

1285
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,880
holy [ __ ]

1286
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:31,680
[Laughter]

1287
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,280
like i y'all i'm like

1288
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,160
disturbed

1289
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,839
and

1290
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:40,480
perplexed

1291
00:47:36,839 --> 00:47:43,040
and befuddled by this book

1292
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,559
i am befuddled

1293
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,800
truly befuddled

1294
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:47,520
not to be confused with besieged

1295
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,440
so

1296
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,520
[Laughter]

1297
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,880
so

1298
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,079
i'm so sorry

1299
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,760
i'm gonna get it together i just i

1300
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:59,839
from start to finish you guys what the

1301
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,760
[ __ ] hannah this book didn't get it

1302
00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:04,160
together so i don't think you should put

1303
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,079
that same pressure on yourself thank you

1304
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,760
anytime let me give you that freedom if

1305
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:09,119
you won't give it to yourself i

1306
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,040
appreciate your validation and

1307
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:13,520
affirmation of my effort right now

1308
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,520
therapy

1309
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:19,200
hashtag therapy so

1310
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:20,800
um

1311
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,200
then

1312
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,440
izzy's trying to figure out like what is

1313
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,480
going on with the mayor

1314
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,079
um

1315
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,480
she's getting more and more information

1316
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:33,359
about lucian's past she learns that his

1317
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,359
son has was is dead like he didn't

1318
00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:37,680
disappear he died

1319
00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:40,640
and they essentially covered up his

1320
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,960
death because he died via overdose after

1321
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,520
getting into his mother's pills

1322
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:48,400
solution's wife's pills right

1323
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,559
um and lucian blamed his wife

1324
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,559
for the death of their son

1325
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:54,800
um because she didn't

1326
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:57,200
like lock up her pills and

1327
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,920
um that's why she killed herself was

1328
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:04,240
because of all the guilt and shame

1329
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:05,839
of her son dying um and uh she was also

1330
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,960
apparently pregnant when she killed

1331
00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:09,440
herself

1332
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,599
um and lucian's like that's really

1333
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,880
interesting because i had not [ __ ] her

1334
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:16,559
in a really long time so

1335
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,920
yeah so like they their parents told

1336
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:20,160
them that they had to get married and

1337
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,400
then like they didn't really have a

1338
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,960
marriage so much as like a legally

1339
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,880
binding contract right and a son that

1340
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,440
they both really loved and cared about

1341
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,400
you know that's a great reframe

1342
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,960
thank you

1343
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,280
but then the sun dies and now there's

1344
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,800
like no reason for them to be together

1345
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,079
and the wife is super depressed

1346
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,839
understandably

1347
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:43,599
so all this is going on

1348
00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:45,520
izzy's uncovering all this stuff and

1349
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:46,960
then lucian starts uncovering izzy's

1350
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,880
past because again there's like a lot of

1351
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,240
trauma that apparently happened to her

1352
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:54,640
in high school so lucian gave her a

1353
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:56,079
bracelet that had a tracking device in

1354
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,280
it bob's

1355
00:49:56,079 --> 00:50:02,000
and so izzy was did she know there was a

1356
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,440
tracking device in it negative okay so

1357
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,960
she just thinks lucian gives her a

1358
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:09,680
bracelet yes okay and she is visiting

1359
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,839
her best friend in town and walking back

1360
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,000
to her aunt's house one night and she

1361
00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:16,319
gets jumped by these guys who like pull

1362
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,079
her into a public bathroom and try to

1363
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:19,440
assault her and stuff and she fights

1364
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:21,440
really hard but

1365
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,960
very clearly like they have the upper

1366
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,599
hand there's more of them they're

1367
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,920
stronger and then one of lucian's

1368
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:29,920
security guy shows up and just beats the

1369
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,440
snot out of these kids

1370
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,480
and

1371
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,920
um rescues her and she's like how did

1372
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,000
you find me they're like oh it's a

1373
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,839
tracker

1374
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,119
[Music]

1375
00:50:38,839 --> 00:50:43,760
so um

1376
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:45,680
and also like they continue to refer to

1377
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,359
this bodyguard person

1378
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,200
i i take it back the dog is not my

1379
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:51,440
favorite it's the bodyguard person they

1380
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:54,000
continue to like randomly refer to him

1381
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,440
he's some sort of like he's hawaiian or

1382
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,400
samoan or something like they never

1383
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,359
really

1384
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,280
tell you we just know that he's massive

1385
00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:04,480
and really nice

1386
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,319
so it's dwayne the rock johnson

1387
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,160
yes that is literally how i picture him

1388
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:10,240
in my mind yes that's you know that's

1389
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,400
that's a fair assessment yeah

1390
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:16,160
they're just like he's a large samoan

1391
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,400
man who can bust some heads if needed

1392
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,200
okay we can work with that we can

1393
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,280
so um izzy gets rescued she finds out

1394
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,440
that there's a tracker in the bracelet

1395
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,680
and lucian is like tell me what happened

1396
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:30,480
tell me why they were after you so she

1397
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,240
tells him that her friend was sexually

1398
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,760
assaulted at a party

1399
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:38,480
and izzy lost her [ __ ] when she realized

1400
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,359
what had happened to her and so she

1401
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,040
um

1402
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:42,960
stabbed some people

1403
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,599
who hurt her friend

1404
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,040
what the [ __ ]

1405
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:48,960
honestly like

1406
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,640
i'm embarrassed how much of this book

1407
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,319
i've forgotten but as you're going

1408
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,440
through it i'm like you know what

1409
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:55,040
there's no chance i could have

1410
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,319
remembered all of this because it's so

1411
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,720
chaotic

1412
00:51:56,319 --> 00:52:00,319
it is and i'm gonna be totally honest i

1413
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:02,160
did not remember most of it like i

1414
00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:04,160
completely forgot the mayor existed

1415
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,839
until i started like going back through

1416
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,520
for this podcast to get ready for it and

1417
00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:09,280
then i was like oh [ __ ] i forgot about

1418
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,720
the mayor because he actually is really

1419
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,720
important you guys so

1420
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,599
so all of this stuff is going on

1421
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:21,599
um and

1422
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:22,720
the um the organization is really on to

1423
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:23,839
lucian

1424
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:26,720
ex

1425
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:28,800
and the explanation is that um

1426
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:31,599
lucian's family has been a part of this

1427
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:34,079
study of sociopathy for generations and

1428
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:38,079
so they need him to have

1429
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:41,119
children to continue the study

1430
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:43,440
and he is like please [ __ ] off

1431
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:44,839
right like you know good for him setting

1432
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:48,640
that boundary

1433
00:52:44,839 --> 00:52:50,319
yeah um but he was involved in the

1434
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,480
experiments and the research and stuff

1435
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:53,920
which is why he's so messed up

1436
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,559
um

1437
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,760
emotionally so then

1438
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:01,839
at some point in some flashback he finds

1439
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,000
solange the french maid

1440
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:06,960
dead in a sea cave

1441
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,599
and he goes and runs and tells somebody

1442
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,400
that she's dead they go to investigate

1443
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:14,559
and they're like kiddo there's no body

1444
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:17,040
like what are you talking about and he's

1445
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:19,520
like no like solange is dead and they're

1446
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,200
like there was no solange who are you

1447
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,440
talking about and he's like no no no

1448
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,960
like me and jude and they're like jude

1449
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,920
is dead

1450
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:30,400
he's been dead for years and okay okay

1451
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,800
okay okay okay

1452
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,599
hold on

1453
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,599
just to make sure

1454
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:41,200
the sea caves the [ __ ] sea caves the

1455
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:43,599
goddamn sea

1456
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,240
lucian goes out and sees solange's dead

1457
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:48,720
body and the sea caves and then is

1458
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:49,920
obviously we're in a flash back here

1459
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:52,000
and

1460
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,960
then he goes and it's like salon just

1461
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,680
dead and everyone's like

1462
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,559
no

1463
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,720
she

1464
00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:01,680
she was always dead she was she never

1465
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:05,200
existed she never existed okay solange

1466
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:08,000
isn't real and your best friend is dead

1467
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,880
and has been apparently for like a year

1468
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,200
okay

1469
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,559
oh no

1470
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,240
that is

1471
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:16,400
that is not great when you think about

1472
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:18,400
that breath placing

1473
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,680
did he drop

1474
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,680
did he drown himself

1475
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:25,599
like

1476
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,280
oh no

1477
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:29,040
so

1478
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,160
okay so that's a plot twist it's

1479
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,839
something

1480
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:36,640
so then we're like okay so how much of

1481
00:54:33,839 --> 00:54:39,040
this is solution hallucinating like i

1482
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:42,319
don't i don't even know anymore

1483
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,319
oh because the book opened with lotion

1484
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:45,359
like being in a psych ward or something

1485
00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:48,319
and they're like you're sick and you

1486
00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:51,359
need to be here oh no

1487
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:52,960
i really forgot so much of this book oh

1488
00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:55,599
no

1489
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,640
is correct so

1490
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:59,119
um

1491
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,760
yeah so izzy

1492
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:03,599
shares this with him and he's like

1493
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,839
i don't know about all that so the

1494
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:07,920
closer they get the more that she

1495
00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:09,839
reveals the more nightmares she starts

1496
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,599
to have and she eventually tells him

1497
00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:14,400
that she in fact was the one who was

1498
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:15,280
sexually assaulted and she is the one

1499
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,240
that

1500
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,760
after

1501
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:20,160
the act

1502
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,640
stabbed a guy basically tried to cut off

1503
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,880
his dick which you know

1504
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:28,640
while i generally don't condone violence

1505
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,559
i'm like good for her you know like

1506
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:35,119
good for her way to take back your power

1507
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:37,440
izzy exactly so then she had accused him

1508
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:39,920
of sexual assault this this guy

1509
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,079
and he was very prominent in the

1510
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,000
community his mom was like

1511
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:45,920
head of the pta stand-up kind of lady

1512
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,559
and she's the the daughter of the town

1513
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,720
[ __ ] so everybody thought that she

1514
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:54,319
basically just went crazy and stabbed

1515
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:55,020
the golden child of the town because she

1516
00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:56,319
is a

1517
00:55:55,020 --> 00:55:58,880
[Music]

1518
00:55:56,319 --> 00:56:00,480
[ __ ] who's also a nut case when really

1519
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,520
the golden shot of the town was like

1520
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,960
kyle rittenhouse yes he was a brett

1521
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,200
kavanaugh jr

1522
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,200
so

1523
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:14,079
so she reveals this lucian is like holy

1524
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:16,000
[ __ ] okay like all this makes sense now

1525
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:17,520
they're doing more knife play and more

1526
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,799
breath play they're getting to know each

1527
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,960
other more and more

1528
00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:23,440
the mom is continuing to be just super

1529
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,440
[ __ ] weird man like

1530
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,920
she has these weird dementia episodes

1531
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,640
where she talks about her grandson as if

1532
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,480
he's still alive like asking where he is

1533
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,400
and if he'll come visit her and stuff

1534
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,640
and it's all very sad

1535
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,319
and um and then when she's not having

1536
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,480
those flashbacks she's just reading her

1537
00:56:38,319 --> 00:56:42,319
harlequin romances and staring at her

1538
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,319
her creepy doll collection yes and

1539
00:56:42,319 --> 00:56:47,280
listening to izzy play the piano i

1540
00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:48,319
forgot the obvious yes obviously yes so

1541
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,720
um

1542
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:52,559
yeah all this is continuing to go on the

1543
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:55,200
organization people are still up

1544
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:56,480
lucian's ass and then eventually

1545
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,880
um

1546
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,720
izzy decides she really needs to figure

1547
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,040
out who her dad is

1548
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:04,799
i don't really remember what prompted

1549
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,200
that at all

1550
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:08,079
um but she decides she wants to find out

1551
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,920
so

1552
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:11,280
she starts going through her mother's

1553
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,319
old things actually maybe that's where

1554
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,920
it started she's going through her

1555
00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:16,079
mother's old things she finds an old

1556
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,050
yearbook she finds different things and

1557
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:20,000
then she's like

1558
00:57:17,050 --> 00:57:23,680
[Music]

1559
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,520
the mayor is pretty suspicious right now

1560
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,760
he's pretty [ __ ] sus

1561
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:30,079
so

1562
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,599
she's like i don't feel great about this

1563
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:32,640
so she's walking down the street the

1564
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:35,359
mayor

1565
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,799
drives up next to her and is like hey i

1566
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:39,440
really need to talk to you let me give

1567
00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:40,400
you a ride and she's like hard pass

1568
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,559
because

1569
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,400
you're weird you're a strange man that

1570
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:45,920
i've met a couple times and made me feel

1571
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,599
uncomfortable all of the time so i'm not

1572
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,040
gonna get in your car with you you

1573
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:51,520
weirdo

1574
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,960
yep okay and he's like joke's on you you

1575
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,799
are getting in the car

1576
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:59,119
so this was not an invitation so much as

1577
00:57:56,799 --> 00:58:01,119
explaining what was going to happen yeah

1578
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:04,000
this was not optional

1579
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:06,319
and so a struggle ensues and he gets her

1580
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,480
into the car she is still wearing her

1581
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:12,319
bracelet with a little tracker on it

1582
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,280
so um he takes her to a cabin in the

1583
00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:16,400
woods

1584
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:19,040
tells her that he is in fact her father

1585
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,839
and he needs her

1586
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,640
because in order to join the

1587
00:58:20,839 --> 00:58:26,480
organization he needs a

1588
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,400
an offspring

1589
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,559
to offer up for

1590
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,040
the experiments and the research that

1591
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:36,160
they're doing and so

1592
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:39,040
he needs his daughter to volunteer his

1593
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:43,200
daughter to be tortured by lucian's

1594
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:46,160
illuminati society yes got it and his

1595
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:48,319
his legitimate daughter is dead so all

1596
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:51,680
he has is the

1597
00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:53,359
uh daughter of the high school girl that

1598
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,119
he had sex with while he was a high

1599
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:57,119
school teacher

1600
00:58:55,119 --> 00:59:00,240
you shouldn't be doing that

1601
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:03,119
no none of it really so much of the

1602
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:05,200
activity in this book is is frowned upon

1603
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:08,000
not just like societally frowned upon

1604
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,839
but like legally legally like there's a

1605
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,559
lot of concerns in this book that i feel

1606
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:14,160
like we're all just like okay with

1607
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:16,720
i mean i'm not

1608
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:19,119
no i mean like in their in their world

1609
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,680
they're okay with it right right right

1610
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:25,119
yes hannah i would hope you're not okay

1611
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,799
with with the pedophilia that is rampant

1612
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:28,240
in this book

1613
00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:29,440
um

1614
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,119
but yeah it feels like everyone in this

1615
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,960
book is like you know that's that's just

1616
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:34,079
what happens in a small town with money

1617
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,960
and you're like

1618
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:39,359
what is it it it doesn't have to this

1619
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,280
was a choice

1620
00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:43,040
this was a choice that you made and then

1621
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,920
doubled down on

1622
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:47,440
so

1623
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:50,079
um the the the mayor has her in this

1624
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,359
cabin he calls the organization's people

1625
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:52,880
to come

1626
00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:56,000
get her i guess

1627
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,000
and lucian realizes that she's missing

1628
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,319
they had had some kind of fight honestly

1629
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,799
y'all i don't [ __ ] know like if you

1630
01:00:00,319 --> 01:00:04,640
want the details of this book just read

1631
01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:07,119
it i'm not telling you you're gonna

1632
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,200
enjoy it i'm telling you like if you

1633
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:12,160
if you want to try to read this book and

1634
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:14,480
make sense of it and explain it to me

1635
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,319
like we would love honestly if you read

1636
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,720
this book and you're like all of this is

1637
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:21,040
a very linear thought pattern i don't

1638
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,040
understand why it's escaping y'all we

1639
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,839
would love to have you on the show we

1640
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:28,559
would love to have you explain this book

1641
01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:30,079
to us because both of us have read this

1642
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:31,920
and just thought

1643
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,960
what chaos

1644
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,200
yeah

1645
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,440
and like it's not even that i am drunk

1646
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,760
at this point it's just like i genuine

1647
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,520
like you've only had one weekend coffee

1648
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,280
only one weekend coffee and i still

1649
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,000
don't know what the [ __ ] and i can't i

1650
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,680
can't articulate it so

1651
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,599
she's being held hostage it's a whole

1652
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,400
thing giant samoan guy shows up and it

1653
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:53,920
like

1654
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,920
starts shooting up the cabin joining the

1655
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,960
rock johnson wayne the rock johnson

1656
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,799
shows up

1657
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,760
um

1658
01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:03,440
and uh lucian shows up and obviously he

1659
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,280
sacrifices his body and like throws

1660
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,200
himself over top of her to protect her

1661
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,799
during the gun fight and the mayor's

1662
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,359
shooting and the samoan guy is shooting

1663
01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:13,200
and then some guys from the the the

1664
01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:17,200
illuminati show up and they're shooting

1665
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:19,440
and everybody's [ __ ] shooting and

1666
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,440
so then

1667
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,640
and so there's a shootout is what i hear

1668
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:26,640
us saying

1669
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:28,559
the mayor takes izzy we find out izzy is

1670
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,559
his daughter he needs her to join the

1671
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:33,200
illuminati so they can conduct their

1672
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:35,599
sociopathy experiments and there's a

1673
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:38,240
shootout yes okay

1674
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:39,760
so then lucian is like he's been shot

1675
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,640
he's like we have to get izzy out of

1676
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,480
here

1677
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:46,559
so he gives izzy to the big samoan guy

1678
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,480
he takes her away

1679
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:50,559
and lucian sticks around and then the

1680
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,720
illuminati guys show up and lucian's

1681
01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:55,440
like nothing to see here y'all because

1682
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:57,440
he buried the mayor in in a pile of dirt

1683
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,880
i guess because he's dead now

1684
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,880
sorry i skated right over that

1685
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,799
so the mayor is dead mayor is dead

1686
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:06,640
lucian buried him and then the

1687
01:02:04,799 --> 01:02:08,079
illuminati showed back up

1688
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,599
okay

1689
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:10,960
and lucian's like don't worry about it

1690
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:14,000
thanks good chat

1691
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:16,559
and so then

1692
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,720
y'all we're not even close so then we

1693
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:20,319
have to be close we're not we're not you

1694
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,920
would think that's like the climax of

1695
01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:26,799
the book you would be incorrect so then

1696
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,880
pollution finally i need more whiskey

1697
01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:31,440
for this oh my god

1698
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:34,480
i need something stronger than whiskey

1699
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:36,319
like a valium

1700
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:40,480
maybe somehow doll maybe it would make

1701
01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:42,799
more sense if i just be 52 me man

1702
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,880
yes precisely so then

1703
01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:47,440
lucian gets izzy back to the house he

1704
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:50,160
like cleans her up she cleans him up and

1705
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,280
like his wound is whatever

1706
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,880
like

1707
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,559
sutured

1708
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,960
they're having a nice time doing

1709
01:02:54,559 --> 01:03:00,160
whatever it is they do and then lucian's

1710
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:02,480
mom shows up like leering over the bed

1711
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,240
after lucian gets up for some reason and

1712
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,599
she's like you're a little [ __ ] just

1713
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,760
like all the others i thought you were

1714
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:09,839
going to be different like how dare you

1715
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,240
try to corrupt my son

1716
01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:14,640
blah blah blah blah she then reveals

1717
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:17,839
that the death of lucian's son was not

1718
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,960
an accident she intentionally killed his

1719
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:20,960
child

1720
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:24,160
using his mother's pills

1721
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,359
and set it up to look like an accident

1722
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,119
um

1723
01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:28,240
his father died of a heart attack at

1724
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:30,400
some point

1725
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,559
i think like right after the son died i

1726
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,359
don't really remember his dad died but

1727
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:38,079
honestly i couldn't remember how or why

1728
01:03:35,359 --> 01:03:38,799
nor did i care no

1729
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:43,039
no

1730
01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:44,880
but regardless the mom killed the son

1731
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:46,480
and then like set it up to look like it

1732
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,720
was the mom's fault

1733
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:52,240
um so she's revealing all of this and

1734
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,760
izzy is like what the [ __ ] is happening

1735
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,240
so then

1736
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,720
she reveals that

1737
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:00,559
um

1738
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,000
she reveals that

1739
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:05,119
lucian

1740
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,240
was not the father of

1741
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:08,240
the kid

1742
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,640
which no one would should actually be

1743
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,799
surprised by because lucian couldn't

1744
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:15,039
ejaculate because

1745
01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:17,119
there wasn't a knife involved correct

1746
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:19,280
got it so turns out that his dad

1747
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:21,920
essentially sexually assaulted the

1748
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,520
mayor's daughter that same night

1749
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,920
with the intention of getting her

1750
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,400
pregnant because he needed the bloodline

1751
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,960
to continue and he needed it to look

1752
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:33,599
like it was lucian's child so that they

1753
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,359
could continue with the research and the

1754
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:36,720
secret organization whatever

1755
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:39,039
so

1756
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,960
mom reveals all of that lucian's like i

1757
01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:42,799
don't really care what the [ __ ] you say

1758
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:45,039
that was my son

1759
01:04:42,799 --> 01:04:46,640
like that was my son

1760
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:48,480
and so

1761
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,720
he obviously he shows back up and he's

1762
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,319
super upset after mom has revealed all

1763
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,720
this to izzy

1764
01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:56,799
and he overheard his mother revealing

1765
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,799
all of this okay

1766
01:04:56,799 --> 01:05:01,280
so then he's freaking out is he's

1767
01:04:58,799 --> 01:05:03,599
freaking out mom tries to stab izzy i

1768
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,319
think he she tries to kill her in some

1769
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:05,839
way

1770
01:05:04,319 --> 01:05:06,960
lucian steps in

1771
01:05:05,839 --> 01:05:09,920
and then

1772
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:14,240
we have some nice symmetry that happens

1773
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:15,039
um where because as we all remember

1774
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,880
no

1775
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:19,359
the book opened

1776
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:22,000
with lucian being strapped down into an

1777
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:24,400
insane asylum the book very nearly

1778
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:27,119
closes with his mother being strapped

1779
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:29,039
down in the same insane asylum

1780
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:30,799
begging lucian not to leave her there

1781
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:33,839
and he's like

1782
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:36,720
joke's on you like you killed my son and

1783
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:39,520
just tried to kill izzy right right it's

1784
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,920
like a like an inigo montoya thing from

1785
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,920
from princess bride like

1786
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,400
except instead of my father it's my son

1787
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,920
you killed my son prepare today exactly

1788
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:51,440
so he leaves her there

1789
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:52,960
um and then you know he and izzy just

1790
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,760
connect and

1791
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,839
they

1792
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,200
he buys her a bookstore

1793
01:05:55,839 --> 01:05:58,960
at some point

1794
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,520
oh i forgot that he bought her a

1795
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,799
bookstore he did he bought her the town

1796
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,960
bookstore

1797
01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:05,839
and they bang in there and that's the

1798
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,240
end

1799
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:09,760
of the book

1800
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,000
so all right

1801
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,039
i don't even know the way to summarize

1802
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,039
this book

1803
01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:16,839
i'm gonna try and summarize it so even

1804
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:19,760
though i don't know how

1805
01:06:16,839 --> 01:06:22,000
um izzy the daughter of the town horror

1806
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,240
is hard up for money and goes to work

1807
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:27,280
for lucian

1808
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:30,000
the town recluse who is covered in scars

1809
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:32,160
i forgot so he got his scars because the

1810
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,720
night his son he found his son's dead

1811
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,000
body and had done cpr and stuff on him

1812
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,640
to try to revive him before the

1813
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,319
paramedics got there and then he figured

1814
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,240
like his son's dead he got onto his

1815
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:44,720
motorcycle without any of his protective

1816
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,160
gear and went on like a little rampage

1817
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,599
and crashed his motorcycle and that's

1818
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,440
how he got all his scars i forgot about

1819
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:51,760
that well that makes me kind of feel sad

1820
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:54,160
for him that like his son passed away so

1821
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:56,160
he went out i mean the whole thing is

1822
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:58,319
you know a lot of this book is sad for a

1823
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,920
lot of reasons oh and i forgot another

1824
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:02,640
thing the mom also revealed that

1825
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:05,039
apparently solange was real

1826
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:07,039
the the french maid was real

1827
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:08,559
she was referring she said that woman

1828
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:10,400
was a predator she was talking about

1829
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:12,000
apparently lucian had a nanny when he

1830
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,240
was like five or six that sexually

1831
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,599
abused him

1832
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:18,480
wait

1833
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:21,440
hold on was solange the nanny when he

1834
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:24,160
was five or six no no so he was sexually

1835
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:27,599
abused when he was five or six and

1836
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:29,039
solange was real yes i think i don't

1837
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,000
know no here's the thing i remember

1838
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:31,359
reading

1839
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,160
well i don't really remember reading

1840
01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:36,960
this book but i remember being like oh

1841
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:39,520
okay was he hallucinating solange was he

1842
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:42,799
not oh he wasn't

1843
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:45,280
but like his mom was like

1844
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:47,200
it was so embarrassing to watch her like

1845
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,119
walk through the house fawning all over

1846
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,240
you when i'm also like was it more

1847
01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:52,319
embarrassing

1848
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:55,119
to know that or that

1849
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:57,839
she was [ __ ] your husband

1850
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:59,440
with your

1851
01:07:57,839 --> 01:08:02,480
batons

1852
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:04,559
from your baton twirling and also like

1853
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,559
is embarrassment the emotion because i

1854
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:08,480
feel like it would be more like anger

1855
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:10,480
and like a protective instinct for your

1856
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:14,000
child hannah really not anger is a

1857
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:17,279
secondary emotion of jesus christ

1858
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,839
so what's under what's under this anger

1859
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:21,279
a desire to protect my [ __ ] kid you

1860
01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:23,279
know

1861
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:25,279
under this anger i'm just like what the

1862
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,239
[ __ ] is still happening in this book i

1863
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:28,239
still

1864
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:30,640
okay so

1865
01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:32,000
essentially izzy goes and works for

1866
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,199
lucian

1867
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,000
um

1868
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:37,920
they fall in love over a period of time

1869
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,920
he's involved in a secret society he

1870
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,120
wants out of and then he finds out his

1871
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,600
mother

1872
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,799
killed his son

1873
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,359
and

1874
01:08:44,799 --> 01:08:49,520
has she been faking the dementia

1875
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:50,960
yeah it seems that way okay so she's

1876
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:53,679
been faking the dementia and then she

1877
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:56,080
tried to kill izzy yep and then she

1878
01:08:53,679 --> 01:08:58,960
ended up in an asylum

1879
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,640
um which like let's also just be honest

1880
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,799
about the state of psychiatric

1881
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,799
hospitalization in america

1882
01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:06,960
um that's not really a thing i just want

1883
01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:07,920
to be clear about that like

1884
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,679
you're

1885
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,000
you're doing great if you get a 72 hour

1886
01:09:09,679 --> 01:09:15,600
stay in this psych hospital so so but in

1887
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:18,319
in the book the asylum is run by the

1888
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,799
secret society

1889
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:24,000
so i would imagine that's different than

1890
01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:25,920
you know yeah than a normal asylum

1891
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,920
asylum that doesn't exist a psychiatric

1892
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,920
hospital in which you get a 72-hour stay

1893
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:32,839
unless you're on a long-term site like

1894
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:36,239
forensic psychiatric unit

1895
01:09:32,839 --> 01:09:37,679
um i i have stories about that as well

1896
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:42,159
but those are not appropriate for a

1897
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:42,960
podcast because hipaa is real sure is so

1898
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:45,759
um

1899
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:48,719
okay hannah how would you ultimately

1900
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:52,719
rate this book i i i agree 60 40. we did

1901
01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:56,159
not uh we did not find a new word

1902
01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:58,800
was not it um moth might be it moth

1903
01:09:56,159 --> 01:10:01,679
could be it um although i have a moth

1904
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:04,159
tattoo and it makes me unhappy to use

1905
01:10:01,679 --> 01:10:06,320
the word mobs i mean moths are pretty

1906
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:08,480
cool like all right how many moths would

1907
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,800
you rate this book

1908
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:10,800
oh

1909
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:17,840
jesus christ so i want to say like two

1910
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:20,640
out of five like i want to say like two

1911
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:22,719
months out of five because i still do

1912
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,960
not know what

1913
01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:26,640
happened well i feel like this entire

1914
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:29,600
book is just like

1915
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,480
it's building the suspense and so you're

1916
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,760
like going through you're like what's

1917
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:32,640
gonna happen like oh my gosh like i

1918
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,960
don't really know and like you're like

1919
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:38,000
trying to solve it and then it's like

1920
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:40,480
[ __ ] we have 20 pages left of this book

1921
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,760
i guess we should wrap it up now

1922
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:44,000
and then

1923
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:46,560
you know what they needed more than 20

1924
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,920
pages to wrap this up yes like did you

1925
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,840
just like dedicate

1926
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,520
too many pages

1927
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,520
to other things in this book i'm

1928
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:56,560
confused like i'm confused on how you

1929
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,560
felt like this was like

1930
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:01,840
cohesively completing

1931
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:05,199
your narrative we dedicated too many

1932
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:07,520
pages to the sea caves is what happened

1933
01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:10,320
solange and those [ __ ] sea caves and

1934
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,679
the breath play got too many pages i did

1935
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:15,360
not need to know that much about

1936
01:11:11,679 --> 01:11:15,360
solange's sea cave so

1937
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:20,640
but i know it anyway

1938
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:23,840
you know and well she and she was real

1939
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:25,280
she was not a hallucination

1940
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:28,159
i'm pretty sure

1941
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:30,640
and jude was alive

1942
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:33,679
he had actually died

1943
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,840
but i don't know when or i don't know i

1944
01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:37,600
don't know there's still

1945
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,239
there's still a lot of questions in this

1946
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:42,560
book so i think two out of five moths is

1947
01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:44,239
appropriate because the the bones of the

1948
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,159
story is really interesting like the

1949
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:48,560
speaker of salt and

1950
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:48,560
bones

1951
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,719
the bones of the story

1952
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,760
the foundation of the story is really

1953
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,960
interesting right with like a secret

1954
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,120
society

1955
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,640
and this whole thing with izzy like like

1956
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,760
the the

1957
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:09,440
the idea of it is really interesting

1958
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,360
then you get into it and it's like what

1959
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:13,440
the f what's happening i almost feel

1960
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,480
like it needed to be a duet yeah like it

1961
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:16,480
needed

1962
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:18,960
it needed more

1963
01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:21,280
pages than what we had so i'm either

1964
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,760
like you needed to cut out a few things

1965
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:26,560
to get it into like one book or you

1966
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:29,199
either needed to expand upon a few

1967
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:31,280
things to like actually just make it

1968
01:12:29,199 --> 01:12:32,719
a duet that we're like oh this makes

1969
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,840
more sense now

1970
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:35,199
um

1971
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,880
because yeah i mean

1972
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:38,640
you've read it twice i read it once

1973
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,320
years ago and going through our

1974
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,120
retelling today i don't feel like i'm

1975
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,239
any closer to answers than i was years

1976
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,400
ago

1977
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:48,560
yeah you know what i'm comfortable not

1978
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,480
having them at this point

1979
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,320
like i'm okay with not having the

1980
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:54,640
answers

1981
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,239
that's good because you'll probably

1982
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,840
never get them

1983
01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:01,040
i'm practicing a lot of radical

1984
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:03,040
acceptance carrie if you're listening

1985
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:06,320
like maybe just dm me and let me know

1986
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,320
what the [ __ ] that'd be great

1987
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,560
so

1988
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,239
i think i think that's all they're

1989
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,080
really i don't know if we have anything

1990
01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:16,320
left to say on this one

1991
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:18,560
[ __ ] don't that was a journey i need

1992
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,480
another weekend coffee

1993
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:23,920
i rate it one out of five weekend

1994
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:25,360
coffees two out of five mods

1995
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,080
so

1996
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,960
yeah carrie respond let us know

1997
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,800
um

1998
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,199
we'll uh i mean we we might be able to

1999
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:36,159
up this to three mods with some answers

2000
01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:37,120
sure two weekend coffees

2001
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:39,280
so

2002
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:41,840
on that note thank you guys for joining

2003
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:43,840
us this is always so fun and

2004
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,280
have a good night have a good day

2005
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,199
whatever time you're listening to this

2006
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,600
i'm never great with the time

2007
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:52,000
thanks for listening thanks

2008
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,000
bye