(upbeat music)
Happy Halloween.
I hope your Friday was amazing.
How have I never made that connection?
For those watching,
that was my surprise face.
I was a gargoyle in the background.
(laughing) So self-conscious and
embarrassed about myself.
Like I could have died.
I don't know, I thought
the gargoyle was pretty good.
(laughing)
Me no go college.
Your cousin from Boston.
Boston.
(laughing) You were not a psychopath.
I got a pretty good
sense that you weren't.
And that's what we've
been trying to get to,
is to point people.
There's a reason we're exes.
Heck, yeah.
She don't live in Texas.
You were so mad at me.
That was like our first big fight.
But you totally redeemed yourself.
I totally redeemed myself.
Six out of times.
You know, like, you gotta
take the good with the bad.
I don't like that saying.
I'd rather just take the good.
Ooh.
Gargoyled.
Welcome to the Mr. and
Mrs. English Podcast.
I'm Megan.
And I'm Sean.
We're here to talk about
the wild ride of raising kids
and growing careers,
keeping life together
in the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up,
because we're all in
this crazy journey together.
So there's we start with the size.
We're gonna start with the size of this.
We're still in the middle of the day.
We're still in the middle of the week.
Ooh.
It's been, I don't know what happened,
like for the delay this week.
Yeah.
Well, welcome everybody.
First off, happy Halloween.
If you're watching this on Friday,
happy Halloween if you
watched it last night.
Yeah, happy Halloween.
Or if you're watching
this on some random November
or March day.
I hope you just had a
great day yesterday.
I hope your Friday was amazing.
Or Tuesday.
Who knows when people watch.
It's so true.
I guess it's the
beauty of a podcast, right?
Yeah.
It's not like back in
the 80s where, you know.
Or listen, I guess.
Or listen.
Yeah.
You don't really watch a podcast, do you?
No, but I did make,
what most podcasts you do now,
I was listening to
Conan O'Brien's podcast.
Yeah.
Everybody knows Conan
O'Brien, I don't even know.
And he was like, I got off of TV,
because you know, he had the whole thing.
But he was on TBS
forever, his own great show.
He's like, I got off of TV
and then kind of as a joke,
he said he started this podcast,
the Conan O'Brien podcast, not this one.
And he said that, it
just kind of took off.
I mean, obviously he's
got a huge following,
he's hilarious.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then they're like, oh hey,
do you mind if maybe we put
some cameras in there, right?
And this was, because
he only started his,
maybe 2020, I think.
Oh, is this still a while ago?
Yeah, and then they
started putting cameras in there,
because all the podcasts started saying,
oh my gosh, we need to
have YouTube content,
video content, right?
He's like, sure, that's fine.
And then they're like,
hey, do you mind if we,
what was the other thing he said?
Oh, no, what was it?
He's like, hey, do you
mind if we do this or that?
So he just started getting more and more.
And then I think he made the joke,
he's like, hey, do you mind
if we just put a live band
in there with you?
So it's like slowly but
surely making its way back
to network television,
basically, but for a podcast.
Yeah, and he's just sitting in a studio
instead of a live audience, yeah.
Hey, and can we have
people come in and watch?
Oh, that's what it was, it was,
can you do five of these live a year
because people want to see it?
So he was getting back in
front of actual people and whatnot.
It's funny, his podcast, not
that we have talked about that,
but I think his executive
assistant for a long time
is, there's three hosts,
it's him and two others
and she's one of them on there.
Really?
Yeah.
That's, because does Andy Richter do one?
Not with him anymore.
Okay, okay.
He's on his series with him.
Yeah, it was like he has
his own podcast kind of thing.
Yeah, he's got some of
his own stuff going on.
Yeah.
I don't know what you think.
Yeah, anyways, it's just, it was funny.
I brought that up because
you're talking about podcasts.
Yeah, and you do watch podcasts.
Well, and I was talking
about "Morning Serial,"
one of these next weeks, one of the days,
it's the 80 year anniversary
of when they did "The Alien Invasion."
Do you remember when they did that on,
I can't think of the
name of it now, I just did.
Was it the one, something theater?
No, it was like in
1940 and they did a fake.
It was like, "Wells," whoa.
"Orson Welles."
Orson Welles, yeah, Orson Welles,
invader, world
invaders, got alien invaders
or something like that.
But anyways, it was set up on the radio
as they didn't tell people it was fake.
So there was like mass hysteria.
Oh my God.
However that's defined in like the 1940s.
But mass hysteria
around the fact that people
were listening to the radio thinking
that the world was
being invaded by aliens.
You are kidding me.
No, no.
I'm excited to hear this.
Not come up on morning serial
as of the date of this recording.
No, no, no, no.
Okay, it's in the future.
I don't know when it is.
I record those now so far in the future
that I don't know what day or month I'm
in most of the time.
Oh, that's pretty funny.
Yeah, yeah, so anyways, I
just thought that was funny
because during that short
bit of that little news event,
I had mentioned the fact that,
oh kids, radio is
something that we used to have
a long time ago, you just
hear the sounds of people,
but there's no video.
Yeah.
Oh, it's just like a podcast.
(laughing) We've gone full circle.
Full circle.
How have I never made that connection?
Like apparently I'm just really slow.
No, I didn't.
Have I never made that connection before?
Well, I did it basically live, you know,
when I'm shooting my own podcast.
I was like, oh, it's like a podcast.
You can see the light
bulb go off as you're,
if you're watching the
YouTube video of your podcast,
you can see the light bulb go off
as you make that realization.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah, ding, ding.
That's exactly right,
that's exactly right.
And for those watching,
that was my surprise face.
Yeah.
I don't know if it was.
Let me see it again.
No, I can't do it, like
have we lost them yet?
Oh, you can't act that?
Oh gosh, I'm not a good actress.
Do you think you could be an actress?
No. No?
No. That's funny.
Do you think you could
be an actor though, right?
I don't think I could be an actor.
There was a time in my
life where I did want
to kind of be an
actor, which was hilarious
because I was shy, I was not well spoken.
I, you know, so I did go, I
did, my mom paid for like,
I don't know what it was.
There was like an
open call at one of those
like modeling places,
you know, that I went to.
And oh my God, I almost can't believe
I'm putting this out
there, but law, I mean, like,
I was like in my teens
probably lost, you know,
this was after I lost my
basketball scholarships.
I don't even know if I was in college,
even back in college at the time.
But she paid for me to
go to this like acting,
you know, roll call type thing.
So I stood in line with all these people
that want to be actors
and who knows who is there?
Maybe all these professional actors now.
Yeah. Very well.
They all have Academy Awards
or And or Emmys behind them.
That's right, so I stuck it.
This is one of those few times in life
and maybe you have some
of these two words like,
you did something and it's
just out of character for you.
And it's like, man, I cannot believe I
pushed through that.
Just very out of character, you know?
But yeah, I did that.
I read a commercial thing.
It was my turn.
Then I've told you this before.
Like I remember going in
with like the, you know,
the head honchos and
they had the picture of me
in front of them and I'm standing there.
They're talking about me
like a piece of me, you know,
and they're like, oh yeah,
he's boy next door looking.
You know, he's no Brad Pitt, you know?
And you know, and I was so shy.
I mean, I was super
shy at the time still.
I had not learned how to talk to people.
I was zero self-confidence.
So the fact that I went and did that,
totally out of character.
Yes, as I like to think I
know you very, very well.
And even to me, I'm like, gosh,
I would have loved to see this
because it is, seems out of character.
And just to something,
I want to hear about you
and some of these, if you've
ever done anything like that
out of your character, I have a feeling
I know the answer to that.
(both laughing) But I will follow up
that whole acting thing
with my whole life that
I've always thought like,
I can kind of
disassociate myself and pretend
because that's what
acting is at its lowest levels.
And I'm sure Tom Hanks
would throw a brick at me
for saying something like that.
But they're
pretending to be someone else.
And there's methods
to do that and whatnot.
But I took an acting class
in college, a theater class.
I ended up, I think, getting an effinat.
It was before I went back to school.
Yeah, before I went back to
school and took it seriously.
Right, right.
You just didn't take it seriously.
You didn't get an effinat
because you were bad at it.
That's right.
You just put zero effort in it.
No, I walked out halfway through it.
See there, then.
I was so embarrassed.
Yeah, and hence why you.
I was, it was the very
first part of it, of the class.
And then I'll stop talking
because I've been talking.
I always talk to you, way too much now.
No, you don't.
But this is probably why
your parents don't listen
is because they're like,
it's just Sean talking.
I don't want to hear
what Sean has to say.
Anyways, I was in a
group of like five people.
We did some acting thing.
I was a gargoyle in the background.
Oh my gosh, seriously?
I had no speaking part, no nothing.
I was a background
actor and I was a gargoyle.
So I squatted in the back
and I was a live gargoyle.
So I was like doing things
that I thought a gargoyle
would do.
Totally like so self-conscious and
embarrassed about myself.
Like I could have died, right?
I mean, I'm sure I lost
10 pounds of just sweat.
My heart somehow made it through.
You have a heart attack.
I hated it because
that was uncomfortable.
It's not like you're
playing a cool character.
You were put in a tough situation.
I gotta be honest.
This is like, if this was acting 101,
you were put into like acting 702.
It was theater 101.
Theater 101.
What do you think?
I was like, they made you a gargoyle.
What does a gargoyle do?
I did, but I thought I gargoyle do.
But get this, I'll finish the story with,
I mean, I was humiliated by it.
I was just, this was a different Sean.
Anybody that knew Sean before
maybe I was 23 or 24 years old,
that Sean really doesn't exist anymore.
It's just a new Sean.
Hence why you call him that Sean.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like completely
disassociated from you.
It is, kind of.
I mean, some of those
basics might be there or whatnot
and that's a whole nother podcast.
But our group of five went
back up in front of the class
to get feedback on our presentation.
Our group of five was a group of four.
You didn't go back up.
Standing in front of the
class hearing the presentation,
I stood in back of the props
because I wanted to hear it
and I left the class
and I never came back.
I was mortified.
But the last thing I'll say about it was,
one person, and thank you
to whoever this person was,
one person said, when they
were giving positive feedback,
he's like, I don't know,
I thought the gargoyle was pretty good.
(laughing)
He was in character.
So that was, I mean,
that should have given me,
who knows, I probably walked away
from a lucrative acting career.
I had it, I had it and I walked away.
It was in my hands.
Gargoyled!
Oh my gosh, gargoyled.
I thought the gargoyle was pretty good.
Hey, you should have.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's tough.
I actually went in, I actually went in
to talk to the theater teacher.
Probably three weeks
after I had just stopped going
to the class.
This is one of those things that
nightmares are made of.
You're like, it's like, I
have a test and something.
Oh, I haven't showed up for three weeks.
Yeah.
But I talked to him and said,
hey look, I was just mortified.
I was like, what can I do to whatever,
not get an F in this class?
Maybe it was towards the
end of the semester even.
He was kind enough to
give me an incomplete.
Okay, so thank you.
So thank you to him.
And then I never took it again.
It's fair.
But you don't think, I
mean, I think I could,
our daughter and I, we act
all the time in the house.
All the time.
And there's times
where you guys are like,
are you serious?
So I think I could, I think I could,
I think I can do it in our house.
You can do it, you can.
And I think it would
be about that mindset.
I don't know.
I was watching
something, Julia Roberts was on,
I don't know, Jimmy Fallon or something.
And she was talking
about acting and she goes,
acting is not hard.
She goes, me no go college.
Just dying laughing.
She was trying to be
like, compare herself.
She's like, I'm not a brain surgeon.
I'm not, you know, like all these things
that are actually really hard.
Cause she was kind of
just being self deprecating
and she, me no go college.
Wasn't she just, didn't
she just provide a quote
on morning cereal?
I should have used that one.
Me no go college.
It was so funny.
Cause she was talking
about air rock a bitch.
Anyway, yeah.
But it's just one of those things.
You have to be, I'm
guessing it's a mind frame thing.
I don't know.
I can do it.
I take myself too seriously.
Yeah, I think, yeah.
I think everybody I've ever listened to
that's an actor or actress,
I think some of them,
I think there are people
that like the attention,
but I don't think those
are the really good actors.
I think the really good
actors are really people
that take their jobs seriously.
And they're like, I go to a place
and I'm doing something else.
Yes.
And then when I'm done with
that, I turn back into me.
Yeah.
I totally disassociated whatever
to their actual personality.
I think so.
But I say that and
then on the other side,
I say like, but some of the best actors,
some of their best
roles are exactly them.
It's like they're not even acting.
You've seen some of these people.
I know.
Any Ben Affleck role.
Yeah.
Where he's from Boston.
Where he's exactly.
Your cousin from Boston.
Yeah, so unlike the Batman.
Unlike the Batman.
Which like probably received the most
critiques from that.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Right, like so, right?
But where he was
playing Good Will Hunting.
Holy crap, he's amazing.
Oh, he was incredible in that.
But to get back to that kind of point,
have there been times in your life
where you've had to get out,
you've really pushed
yourself outside of like
a comfort zone and got through something.
Just be like, I don't know
how I did that, but I did.
Oh yeah.
I just had to bear down.
Yeah.
So I go back to, and
you've said this to me,
and it's been on the important things.
But you had said, you're
like, now that I know you,
the fact that our first date even
happened is like shocking.
Because our first date.
Yeah, that's so true.
So if we double click into how we met,
I don't know if we've talked about this,
but we met on a beach in Cozumel,
getting ready to go parasailing, right?
Old on vacation.
Single screws.
Sure.
I'm just kidding, it
was not a single screw.
It was not a single screw.
You were both last second additions
to someone else's cruise.
Exactly.
So we were kind of on
someone else's vacation.
Yeah.
And anyway, you lived in Kansas City.
I lived in Minneapolis.
So we had talked for a day.
And I mean, we talked for a
month on the phone, right?
After having spent a day and a half
together on vacation.
And so our first date, and I still say
if our daughter ever does
this, I will not be happy.
But we met in Des Moines.
We both drove to Des Moines separately.
And then we drove into Chicago together
to spend a weekend together.
And that was our first date.
And if you know me, that
is about as far outside
of the bounds as like
Megan would ever go, right?
I'm going to a random city with a guy
that I've only physically seen once.
Sure we talked on the phone, you know?
Over, you saw me a couple
times over a couple of days,
but just during that one time period.
Yes, one time period, yes.
And it's like, you think
about the dangers of that.
You were not a psychopath.
I got a pretty good
sense that you weren't,
but I was like, I also think
it's worth the risk, you know?
So--
And you had friends tell
you, like, are you crazy?
They call me?
Oh yeah.
Heck yeah.
What if he is a psychopath?
Like, you are now stuck in
a city with someone like--
Did you have a cell phone then?
Yeah.
We had cell phones then?
Yeah, we had cell phones, yeah.
987, that was 2007.
So that was, oh yeah, we had cell phones,
but they were just not smart phones.
Yeah, they were just, yeah.
It was probably a flip phone.
Yeah.
Yeah, but yeah, so I mean,
that was out of character.
Clearly worth it.
You're not a psycho.
Yeah.
20 years later.
And that's what we've
been trying to get to here,
is to point people on like--
She's not really a gargoyle.
I'm just kidding.
Despite what my ex-girlfriend might say.
She's your ex-girlfriend for a reason.
Can we just say--
Oh, wait for morning cereal tomorrow.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
You give her a shout out?
30th.
We just have to wait.
Hey, cliffhanger, October 30th.
Cliffhanger?
Yeah.
Wow.
After birthday.
I actually know it's not.
(laughing) That's hilarious, it's not.
I would not give her a shout out, no.
I'm sure she's living her best life.
Hope so.
I am and I hope she is too.
Exactly.
Yeah, there's a reason we're exes.
Heck, yeah.
She don't live in Texas.
At least that we know of.
Anyway.
So that was out, yeah.
But that wasn't like, that is true.
That is out of it.
I thought you were gonna
go with the parasailing.
Cause you're not, that's what I thought
you were gonna go with.
(laughing) No, I went on.
The first.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Did you go parasailing again now?
Oh yeah, I never once
felt scared of that.
Oh, okay.
For whatever reason,
that never once scared me.
Really?
Yeah.
That's interesting.
Do you wanna tell people
about the time we went up
to the top of the
stratosphere to ride the roller coaster
at the top of that?
Yeah, I don't like that.
You were so mad at me.
That was like our first big fight.
We weren't married.
We were just literally the biggest.
We were married then?
I think we were married.
Yeah.
Anyway, I've redeemed it on
like our five year wedding
anniversary or whatever.
We went back to it, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, so we went up to the stratosphere.
Everybody knows the one,
there used to be roller coasters
that went around the stratosphere.
And then in the middle, it's
the one that shoots you up.
I don't know the name of it.
I don't either.
But you know, you sit in
something and it shoots you up
and then you kind of fall back down.
Or it takes you all the way up.
And then drops you.
At the top, it's like
the very, very spear.
You know, like six
flags have these things.
It takes way up.
It's scary when you're on the
ground and you're 400 feet up.
When you're on top of a 1200 foot tower
and another 400 feet
up, and then it drops you.
Yeah.
It's scary, but it's a ton of fun.
And it is one of those
things where you have to kind of
manage your fear and your trusting
that everything's gonna work out okay.
And so when you go there, you
have to buy tickets to go up.
You have to buy the tickets
there and all that kind of stuff
because you have to pay to get to the top
of the stratosphere.
So we bought all this stuff.
We get up there.
We're gonna go do it
because I've already
done it before with Brian.
We did a whole bunch of
the fun ones up there.
So, and we get up there long story short,
you would not do it.
I totally chickened out.
Yeah.
And I tried my best and I
can be pretty darn persuasive
when I want to be.
And I tried, and I tried
pretty hard for a while
to convince you
That it was safe.
And it was fun.
It was fun.
Yeah.
And that you would be excited.
You'd feel proud of
yourself when you're done.
And by the end of it, we were just mad.
We probably rolled the,
we rode the elevator
back down in silence.
We did.
Yeah. You were not happy with me.
But you totally redeemed yourself.
I totally redeemed myself.
I think that was our five
year wedding anniversary.
And we went to Vegas for a weekend.
I wrote it.
It was fun.
I was wrong.
And I ended up having a great time.
That was the first time I literally ever
maybe heard you say that.
We all know that's not true.
Third.
I say it a lot.
I just don't like to say it.
We'll leave that one.
That's our second fight.
And it's ongoing.
I am wrong a lot.
And I will say it.
Yeah. Not as much as me.
I'm better than you.
I'm wrong more.
I'm just kidding.
That was wrong.
I'm wrong more.
Just trying to win.
You 100% admit that
you're wrong easier than I do.
But let's go back to
the other thing though.
Like when, and I'm
trying to stay away from work
a little bit on this,
but work is one for sure.
I know early on and even maybe now,
and maybe now because you
get up in front of a lot
of people now.
Mm-hmm.
Like hundreds of people and talk
and you have to come up with stuff off
the top of your head.
You're prepared.
You also have prepared remarks.
But there are times, I would
assume if I were to do that,
I mean, I could do it if I felt prepared.
I have to be prepared.
But it would be, it
would be a look at yourself
in the mirror moment beforehand,
be like, Sean, you can do
this, calm yourself down.
Heart's thumping out of my chest.
Get out there.
Do it, I guess.
I'd come back in after I
blacked out for 45 minutes.
Cause you don't do,
it's not like you're giving
like a two minute intro
or a five minute intro.
You're up there for an hour sometimes.
Sometimes I'll be, yeah, yeah.
Probably not an hour,
but 45 minutes or yeah.
But now you're good with that.
Maybe you feel a little
discomfort with that now,
but when you first
started it was that one like,
all right, Megan, how
did I get through that?
Yeah.
Scared to death.
Like, yeah, I remember the first time
and when it was a big audience
and I was up there for
a long period of time.
I'm pretty sure you heard whatever
presentation I was giving.
You probably heard it 20, 30, 40.
Yeah.
Six, seven times.
Because that was how I prepared, right?
I gave it to you multiple times.
Yeah, yeah.
We used to do that quite a bit.
Yeah.
And we had to prepare remarks.
Exactly.
But I had, and I say this to this day,
I had a really good first
public speaking experience
when I was in seventh grade.
Yeah, it held over.
And it, like, that gives you confidence.
When you have a really, like a good
experience with that
and you get positive
feedback on it and all of that,
it's like, that does help.
Now that was a class of 25 people
that I presented in front of
versus now much bigger audiences.
But you still, you still do it.
Is there anything else
that's like that for you?
Gosh.
Well, part of, I mean, I was a dancer.
So, like, there is to some degree,
like, you have to get
up in front of people
and be used to that.
Yeah, that's true.
So, I mean, you perform.
Yeah.
I never liked singing in front of people,
even though I had to
sing in front of people.
I never liked that.
I would never do that, I don't think.
I wish I could sing, but
yeah, I can see how that would be.
That one.
That's just more, that is more judgy
because that's more specific, right?
Yeah.
It's one thing to
misspeak one or two words
or, you know, have a long pause
or something like that during a speech.
But you hit a wrong note.
I mean, there's only so
many of them in the tune
and that's gonna stick out.
That's something people do
kind of expect perfection on,
right?
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah, and that's why I
was never the soloist
in a lot of the things
that, I mean, I was in,
so I was in show choir and
there were 22 of us, I think.
11 girls, 11 guys, and
I was not the soloist.
No, I had a solo or two,
but I was not the main
person that they picked.
Yeah.
I never felt nervous
singing with the other 20 people,
ever.
Like, that was enough
people for me to just be like,
this is fun and I'm good to go,
but if I had to sing by
myself, I'd be nervous, for sure.
Sometimes I still get
nervous singing around the house,
even though I do it all the time.
Like, if someone hears that.
Yeah.
If I'm like really belting it out.
Really singing, yeah.
Yeah.
I was singing the American, what is it?
The National Anthem.
The National Anthem, the
American, the National Anthem.
You were singing that?
Along with Whitney Houston's,
I Believe That Children Are the Future.
I don't know why those were in my mind.
While you were in office,
either yesterday or the day before,
and I was like, oh man,
I hope she doesn't come home unannounced.
(laughing)
Oh my gosh, that's funny.
I love that you were belting it out.
I didn't want that cat out of the bag.
I mean, you could be the
next National Anthem singer.
Will not be, I'm not a good singer.
So anyways, yeah, those
are things that it's just,
sometimes it's hard to
push through on those things.
There's times even just
like socially I have to do it.
Like I've just, I mean,
honestly doing a podcast is like that.
Yeah.
Right, because I'm
putting myself out there.
There's all these things on,
all these videos on YouTube.
You're doing it via this podcast as well.
You know, and that's something that's,
this is, you know, for
us is different, right?
I mean, we've mentioned that we're not
doing this to become,
this is not gonna be a new
stream of revenue for us.
We have never planned on it to be,
nor is that our will for it to be.
If it were to happen, I
should, sure, great, fantastic.
If New Zealand
decides that the English is,
Mr. and Mrs. English is the new hit show.
We're like the next big thing.
We're happy to go to New
Zealand and do some, you know,
in person.
Yeah.
That aside, that's not been our thing.
So it is a little weird to
like have yourself out there,
to be judged for something,
you know, by other people,
for something that you're like, well,
hey, it's not really my,
cause I think there are people,
here's where I'm kind of going with this.
I was introduced at a table not long ago
as the guy with the podcast, right?
Yeah.
And there's people that I know,
but I don't know them well enough.
Right.
Not well enough for
them to know like what I do
for a living.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
And so I think they
immediately thought of me as like,
oh, he does a podcast,
you know, he's a podcaster.
I wonder if that's how he
makes his living, you know.
Yeah, like what are the questions in their mind?
So in a long roundabout way there,
I was just kind of
getting at like, you know,
we're putting
ourselves out there for this
and this is something, you know,
it is a little
uncomfortable for me to think
that there's people out
there that I don't know,
that are judging or, you know,
oh, cause that's
where I was going with it.
I was thinking a little bit like,
well, I wonder if these people like
listen in, you know,
and they're like, oh,
they're listening into it.
And it's like, oh, interesting, you know.
Cause I've never
claimed that we're, you know,
award-winning or anything like that.
You know what I mean?
Right, right.
We're very normal people.
Totally normal people.
Well, we think we're normal, but.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
We're not the Kardashians.
Nor are we trying to be.
That's why it's like, I
think the part of what we were
doing is like, hey,
we're at least relatable.
So people pull things out of it,
maybe pull out some
nostalgia or, you know,
like, wow, we do it way
better than those two.
Yahoo's on the podcast, you know?
Right, right.
We're putting
ourselves out there for this.
And it is uncomfortable at times.
Cause I know some people
know us as having a podcast.
Yeah, yeah.
There's not many people do.
Well, and it's, it's interesting.
So it's like anyone that knows me,
if they know that we do
this, like can go out there,
like a colleague could go hear this.
And it's like, you know,
it's kind of a peek behind
the curtains of a, of a
potentially a colleague's life
or, you know, not that.
And again, that's yet
another reason why we do filter
what we say and all of that.
Yeah.
But, but it is, it does
push us out of our comfort zone
a little bit.
Yeah.
Although I still love the time with you.
So.
Yeah, the time's great.
And you know, the other thing that we do,
I've mentioned it
many times before in here
is that we're very sure to not
really get into any specific,
you know, topics where
we're taking a stand.
Right.
And it's not because we
don't have a lot of, you know.
That's, that's right.
We definitely have our own opinions
and the way we think
things should be done
and yada, yada, yada.
But just not, not the platform for,
at least on this podcast, right?
Not on this one.
Yeah.
If we start another one,
the I'm Pieved podcast,
you'd get the unfiltered version.
Yeah, yeah.
Nobody wants to hear it.
And that's the thing we
just don't want to put,
it'd be very easy to start a podcast
where you're just like,
hey, let's talk about
what I'm Pieved about.
You know what makes me mad?
And you could do it kind
of funny and satirically,
but I still think it
comes across too negative.
I agree.
Focusing on all this
negative stuff when, you know,
trying to make it through the slides,
there's enough
negative stuff to begin with.
There is.
Without trying to, you
know, even hamper on even more.
So it's trying to find,
you know, things that are,
that are good in line, things that,
Yeah.
Make you feel good inside.
Yeah.
And hopefully that make
everyone feel good, right?
They're, we do try to talk about funny
stories or nostalgia
or how maybe you, you see
things differently as a,
as a man than I do as a woman.
You know, like things like that that
people can relate to
without just being negative.
I mean, we do vent a little bit on here
every now and again.
Yeah.
In a funny way, but not much.
We were careful not to do it too much.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Although if anyone, yes,
sits next to us on an airplane,
is like, oh, you're the
ones from the podcast.
Just know that, yeah,
you've already heard the podcast.
If I don't really want to strike up a
conversation with you,
I'm going to be listening
to my music and ignoring you.
I'm really good at that on an airplane.
(laughing)
And please just stay on
your side of the seat.
And please stay on your,
(sighing)
See, now we can get into the, into the,
I am peeved, like the whole
man spreading and like elbows.
Like,
(gasping) Yeah.
Yeah.
I always get happy when
like a female sits next to me.
Cause I was like, she
will stay in her lane.
They're more likely to stay in their seat
within their seat limits.
Actually, I've never had one who didn't.
Oh really?
I've had a couple of elbow women before.
Oh, okay.
Well, we're sharing this armrest.
I did have one where I was the person
who was moving into her seat,
but that's only
because the person next to me
was taking up over half
of my seat and I only,
so, I mean, the lean was like required.
And I think she knew that.
Nice.
Well, that's good.
At least she gave you
a little grace there.
I'm sure she did.
I'm sure she was
excited to get off that flight
as I was as well.
Well, we've been long in
these last couple of weeks.
We can probably wrap
this one up a little bit,
not to mention we've got a
lot going on today still.
So we kind of got to wrap it,
but what else you want to talk about?
Anything in particular as we're wrapping?
I don't think so.
I mean, are we, is next one
going to be a location shoot?
Oh, we could be in Colorado.
Could be.
Could be in Colorado.
We have the Rockies behind us.
Oh, that'd be cool.
I hadn't thought about it yet.
It might be freezing.
Future Shawn and Megan
have to think about that.
Future Shawn and Megan are very busy.
As always.
Like why are Future
Shawn and Megan busier
than like current Shawn and Megan?
Well, because I'm like
scheduled to shoot so many movies
is one reason why.
I mean, it is Halloween time.
You and your gargoyles are in--
It's just my time of the year.
Hi, Jimmy Hand.
That's right.
I wish so badly there
was a video of this.
Yeah, I'm embarrassed of it
now just thinking about it.
Why?
I don't know.
You shouldn't be.
Yeah, well.
You're like, and it's an experience.
Thank God there's not video of it.
It's like our dance at our wedding.
Yeah.
Right, I am happy that
there's not a video of that.
So I can't, we're watching back.
Oh, that was way,
we've talked about that.
It was way worse than I thought it was.
I felt like it was.
Yeah, because in your mind, it was like,
oh no, I think we did pretty darn good.
I don't know how we did.
I have no idea.
I never even heard any
feedback from it, honestly.
Oh, I think I did.
I think I got a lot of good feedback.
Oh good, good, good, good, good.
You did, I didn't.
Nobody was like, Shawn, I
didn't know you could dance.
Not one person.
But it was all around,
you guys did so well.
It was more around like,
I didn't know you guys were gonna dance.
That is not what they said.
I think it was all good feedback.
Yeah, good.
It was really good.
That's good.
It can't be confirmed,
because there's no video.
There's no video.
So in our mind, I mean,
we're the next couple on
Dancing With The Stars.
Talk about getting out
of your comfort zone.
I was just gonna say, that was exactly,
that was another moment.
Like, I just have to do this.
All these people, I was still very,
still building self-confidence back then.
Yeah.
That was out of the comfort zone.
That was a good, I should
have brought that one up.
Yeah.
Dancing in front of all those people.
Everybody's eyes were on us.
Mm-hmm.
What were we thinking?
I don't know.
I mean, I was just thinking about--
Would we do that now even?
Yeah.
We would.
Yeah.
Maybe.
That's what you do.
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
That's just what you do.
So when we renew, we'll have to redo it.
Oh yeah.
No.
No?
That was a one-time thing.
You don't wanna dance
in front of the kids.
Oh my gosh, yeah.
No.
(laughing)
You imagine the embarrassment on them?
Oh my gosh, they get
embarrassed if we're like,
hi, how was your day?
And then they're like, boom.
Yeah, we've definitely
reached that age though
where we go out of our
way to embarrass them.
Yes.
I do, for sure.
Well, it's not like
you have to go that far.
All you have to do is act normal
and they're like, I'm so embarrassed.
You're talking about me specifically
or just parents in general?
Oh no, parents in general.
Okay, thanks.
Pretty much anything that you do.
I just wanted to clear that up.
Yeah, yeah.
As a parent.
Not you, Sean.
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, it would be like me saying,
Megan, just you being you
is enough to embarrass them.
Oh yeah, that's not
what I was saying at all.
I was just saying, all you
need to do is go up to them
and be like, hi, and they'll
be like, I'm so embarrassed.
You're like, I said hi.
Two letters.
I didn't have a funny
expression on my face.
Or at 6.45 in the morning, you say hi
and they're like, you
know, mad as can be.
I'm used to that, yeah.
That's why I don't really
even approach a conversation
in the morning.
I wanted to pull out a
night, told you so this morning,
so bad, but I was
like, not the right time.
The restraint, I don't know
if you could see it on my face.
Oh I did, I don't know
if you could tell my face
when I'm like just holding myself,
like so many lessons to be taught here.
Just, you're like--
Just don't.
I'm not gonna say it,
I'm not gonna say it.
It's six in the morning, don't say it.
Just so everybody, nope, can't say it.
It should be the next
like state farm or whatever,
those commercials of like,
can stop you from becoming your parents.
Yeah.
No, they know.
You don't need to tell them again.
Yeah.
Oh goodness, all right, well,
we have Halloween coming up this week.
We're gonna be spending it in Colorado.
Yes. TC is watching our daughter here
because we're splitting up, sadly.
Sadly, I'm really sad
about it, to be honest.
Like, I just feel guilty
because I feel like I can't
win because everyone's split.
But the boys will get there,
our oldest will get his
third trick or treating
Colorado experience and our
youngest will get a second
since we've lived there before.
Yep, yep.
Going back home.
Cream.
They'll get to--
Like, cream, crisp Colorado air.
Yeah, it'll be cold.
Well, we're gonna need to get into it.
Yeah, this weekend's
supposed to shape up.
It's like a island of nice weather, so
let's hope it holds.
Oh, I hope it holds,
because unlike you and I
who know what it's like to
trick or treat in the cold,
like our children do not.
So it'll be an exercise and patience.
As is every day with kids.
All right, let's think of our word
from this last week to sum it up.
All right, you ready?
All right, one, two, three.
Sweet and sour. Believe.
Those are totally different.
Sweet and sour, what is it?
Sweet and sour, I think this week held
some really good news.
I know exactly what you're meaning by it.
Really, really good
news and really cool things
that are happening and starting to move,
and I love it, it's great progress.
And then we had some peppered in there,
some not so great news
and things that it's like,
okay, well, we gotta
fix that and handle that.
So kind of a bit of a rollercoaster.
Yeah, yeah.
Totally fair, totally fair with that.
My relief was partially
because the sour part,
I wasn't sure if we were
gonna even tip our hat to that,
but the relief side was the same side
that you were talking
about that was good.
So we just had some good things happen,
some doors open that
we've been waiting for,
working very hard on,
so that was very good.
And then, you know,
some new, like you said,
some new paths to walk and we'll walk it.
Yeah.
And we'll be stronger
because of it more than likely.
Isn't the home always, guys?
So you gotta take the good with the bad.
I don't like that saying.
I'd rather just take the good.
I think we all would.
Yeah, it's kinda like trail mix, right?
I'm not gonna eat the raisins.
After a while, those
nuts just aren't doing it.
Only eating the M&Ms.
Just eating the raisins.
Some people don't even want the raisins.
I don't want the raisins.
I'll take the nuts and the
M&Ms, like raisins and things.
Well, if it's like a box of, or...
Oh, man.
It's like a jar of trail mix.
So your horse come, doesn't know British.
It is, yeah.
I was trying to change it up.
Hey, you know what?
This is what I went away with.
Should be cool.
You know what?
For tips.
I'm gonna go with the gargoyle.
Hold on.
(laughing)
Hold on, let me get in character.
The gargoyle do it.
Hold on.
If we're gonna end this,
I'm gonna get in character.
Okay.
You know, we post that.
All right, honey.
All right.
Happy Halloween, everybody.
I hope you have a great weekend
and we'll see you next time.
Ciao ciao.
All right, we'll see ya.