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All right, all right.

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Feeny talks with friends.

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Episode 160.

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I guess I owe Matthew McConaughey
some a check.

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Do I have to send him a check now?

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I heard he copyrighted.

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All right, all right.
What do you think about that?

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I hope he didn't.

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We're

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having a great podcast today
with some good friends.

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Jake. What's up? Jake?

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Hello. It's nice to be here, Max.

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Really, really excited to be here.

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And a great friend and a good friend
and a good supporter.

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Billy. Be a good friend.

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That's the motto of Friends of Feeny. And,
Let's go.

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I brought my two best friends,
Jake and Max.

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The boys just turned
28 today, and movies are.

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They just love them. So yes they. Do.

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Yeah.

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From animation of the first movie,
they adult movie, The Italian Job.

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And, they've since then they
they'll tell you the rest of the story.

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Yeah. Movies are a great way to,

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you know, do you guys talk about them
after as a family?

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Do you guys compare and contrast notes
and how you feel about them?

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Yeah, all the time.

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Yeah, I've been doing that

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with my daughter, and,
I just find it so interesting.

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And Bill, as a dad. Yeah.

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Rewatching movies
that we grew up with, with your children,

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it's like watching them all over again.
Isn't it amazing?

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Totally different perspective. It's great.

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No one's a big scene is going to come up
and watching your kids

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and not watching the show,
seeing how they're going to react to it.

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Yeah, so much fun.

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Like the end of Carlito's Way,

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when you want Carlito to get on the subway
and just be free to Miami.

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My daughter sits up and she's like,
and then Benny Blanco gets him at the end.

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And she was like, no!

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And I knew it was coming, but she did it
and it was just so amazing.

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Movies are fantastic.

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We're here with the movie critic Dot
today.

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Amazing, amazing podcast.

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Our amazing, website. Yes,

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site.

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I write reviews for it.

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Yeah.

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You write reviews
and we have a cameo actor

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who just starred in and a famous movie
that's killing it these days.

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How was that?

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It was a very interesting experience.

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It happened very randomly.

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And which movie was that? Jake?

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Marty Supreme,
which now has, been nominated

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for nine Academy Awards,
and I got to be in it.

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For the first

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five minutes
as a background in the background.

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So he was a an extra.

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An extra?

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Yeah. Timothy Shalamar.

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He's the hottest star in Hollywood
these days.

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He seems to be a nomination. Yes.

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You get to meet him and Gwyneth. Yeah.

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No, I didn't.

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Gwyneth wasn't in the scene,
so I didn't meet her.

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But I did meet him. Yeah.

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And he seemed like. The real deal.

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He was very nice.

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He said hello, and we said hello,
and he just got right, right to work.

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He didn't goof around on set at all.

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He was all business.

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Yeah, I noticed that.

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Yeah,
he worked really hard for that role. Right

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when I was there.

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He certainly did. You sure. So, yeah.

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And I think the rest of the movie,
it shows each other as well.

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So yeah, I know we have four movies
that we're going to talk about.

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That was one movie I didn't get a chance
to see just yet, but it is on my list.

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You'll enjoy it. It's really.

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It's excellent.

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Okay.

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And how many Golden Globes did it
just get?

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A couple of weeks ago.

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He won best actor in a comedy.

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Is it a comedy?

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I don't know, I don't think. So.

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Yeah, well, to break it down, how
they do that in Best movie in the Oscars,

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it's a little different than best movie
in the Golden Globes right out there, too.

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Yeah, the Oscars don't divide categories

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until Sandra's, but the Golden Globes do.

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And the usually they do it
based on what's going to have enough room.

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So kind of like how the Emmys does it.

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So they'll have best comedy and comedy,
best horror movie drama movie made.

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Probably not horror, but,

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where the Oscars is just best movie.

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Yeah. Oh, interesting.
Okay, learn some new.

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Thank you for sharing that. Yeah.

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Yeah. Really excited.

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Episode 160 plays a role.

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I mentioned that earlier. Number 160.

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When you're talking films,
when you submit a script, it can no longer

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the pages can be no longer no shorter
than 70 pages and no more than 160 pages.

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Look at that.

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And it fits our podcast,
Talking Movies today.

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All right.

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Also,
Sir Michael Caine has acted in 160 movies.

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How many how many awards has he won?

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He two Oscars, I think.

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Right. Two.

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Very good. Yeah. Very good.

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That was trivia question.
Regarding the four of us.

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There's only been one person in the movie
and that's Jake.

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So congratulations, Sonya. Thank you know.

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He was in a movie, so.

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Yeah.

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So your dad was telling me

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a little bit, you're
walking down the street in New York, and.

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I was just honestly, I it
this was when I was in my old apartment

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on 72nd Street, and I was honestly
just out getting a hot dog one day, and,

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some and a woman approached me
and she said that she was a casting agent

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and that she happened to, like, my luck,
she thought it was 1950.

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If I don't know, I didn't.

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I prefer a thought about it,
but that's what she said,

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and she wanted to know
if I'd be interested

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being an extra in an A24
movie with, Tommy Fish Army.

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Obviously I said yes.

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And, I went and,

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probably a week or so later
and the it was.

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Yeah, I, I've never been a, an extra
before in a movie.

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So I got to see how that worked.

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And there's a lot of standing around,
a lot of waiting around.

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But I got to see myself up

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on screen in the theater,
and that feeling was just as awesome.

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So super cool.

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That's great.
Yeah. Jennifer Venditti is. That.

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I believe that's her name. Passing agent.

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So when Jake told us we,
you know, we said, kind of,

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you know,
we checked her out. She's totally legit.

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And then when she said that,
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that maybe he would look like
he's from the 50s.

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I told the Sanders.

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I mean, we were from the 30s,
you know, but, yeah, it worked out great.

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And we saw Jake on the big screen
Christmas Day.

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That's what we did for the holidays.

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Can't wait to see it. Yep.

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Oh, that's so cool. I'm jealous.

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I want to be in a movie.

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Maybe Matthew McConaughey
when I saw him, the check for the.

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All right,
all right. He'll put me in a movie.

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Or maybe Timothy Qomolangma lying.

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We'll put me in a movie now. It's great.

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Were you smoking a cigaret in the movie?

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I heard rumor has it.

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Faking on on set. I was pretending to.

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Yeah, yeah, I pretended to.

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Well, we were filming.

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I think that

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scene didn't end up going into the movie,
so it wasn't really necessary.

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Okay, I think I only appear on screen
a few times, but I'm in the same position.

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I'm leaning over the pulled
that ping pong table.

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Very cool.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And dark. Dark.

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You know, he's playing
ping pong in a bar. It's totally cool.

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Great opening scene for the movie. Yeah.

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Nice. Yeah. What's a good opening film?

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That's awesome.

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Are you getting paid
still again, checks in the mail.

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Oh, no. It was only a one time thing.

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One night.

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No, at, like 500 or something,
and they're not bad.

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Yeah. I had a student once.

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Jordan Booker, my guy.

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He was in a couple of Law and Order
episodes.

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He did modeling, and they had the face,
and they needed a kid.

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That's it.

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Good for him. That's so cool.

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And then Max, Max, you guys,
all my listeners,

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you may have seen Max in episode 127
almost a year ago today.

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Yeah, a lot's happened since. None. Yeah.

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So how's let's get right into it.

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How's resistance?

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How's revolution?

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How's reclamation?

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It's. That's going really good.

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I finished the first season,
writing the first season.

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I'm. I'm still in the beginning of,

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Revolution.

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The first episode of which
will be an eight episode miniseries.

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And then I can move on
to season two, of resistance.

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And then when that's over,

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you know, season three
and then reclamation.

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But the first season
and the miniseries are intertwined,

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so that kind of requires
a certain level of focus.

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But when I'm done with that, I think that
the writing will go much faster.

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How many episodes
have you written from season one?

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Ten? Ten? Ten? Ten? Wow.

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Yeah, it was so cool to then
you and you stuck there

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because on podcast 127, I highly suggest
everyone go back and listen.

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You said you're going to do season
one of resistance,

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and in between season one and season two,
you're doing a mini series. Yes.

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Where'd you get that
idea? That's a amazing idea.

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Never seen it done before.

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Well, there's more,

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I I already had a lot of characters

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that I wanted to write, before,
I actually started,

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but once I started, I ended up adding more
than I had anticipated,

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and it just made more sense to have,

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that kind of.

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There's more room for back story.

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Thunder is in film usually.

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So, yeah,
you know, some characters will appear

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like very briefly,
but then later on during the series

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you'll see certain scenes again,
but from a different point of view.

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So you'll see things in a different way.

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Oh, wow.

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In your ultimate goal,
do you want to watch that on.

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Netflix? Hopefully.

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Maybe HBO Max will say nice.

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Yeah, yeah. Oh,

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Matt Damon and Ben Affleck
just had the rip that's on Netflix. Yes.

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Did you see that? They.

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Matt Damon came out in an interview
and said that Netflix encourages

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the movies to really be

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prominent with the storyline
and not pull anything away

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or hide anything
because viewers are on their phones.

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Did you hear that? Did you see that?
Do you agree?

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I didn't see the interview,
but I heard that he said that.

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I think that, you know,
I certainly am not someone

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that would ever want to alienate
or disrespect audiences.

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But, you know, I'm more than happy
for anyone within the film industry

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to do what they need to to fix
a lot of the problems that are going on.

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But audiences really have got to step up
and do their share, too.

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Yeah, I know, and back on 127
you were like, audience members

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also need to stop complaining about
do you remember the runtime?

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Like, why would you show up for wise?

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Yeah, it's interesting that you said that
because watching movies

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with my daughter, I'm like, two hours
and 30 minute, two hours and 40 minutes.

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And I remember Max telling me, hey,
Feeney, don't worry about the runtime.

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Sit back and enjoy the movie. And, some.

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Audiences
are like a good chunk of the time.

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Are often like children
that won't eat your vegetables.

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They're very restless.
They don't know what's good for them.

244
00:10:52,568 --> 00:10:55,738
They just they they're just
they're just very shaky.

245
00:10:55,738 --> 00:10:59,075
And anxious and they can't like,
it's like a lot of audiences

246
00:10:59,075 --> 00:11:02,078
have such a hard time focusing and,

247
00:11:02,995 --> 00:11:06,916
I don't know, it's like they, it's treated
very simplistically, like, oh,

248
00:11:06,916 --> 00:11:07,333
I'm going,

249
00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:10,503
you know, I'm going to the movies,
but there's something so much bigger to

250
00:11:10,503 --> 00:11:11,504
it than that, you know?

251
00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:17,301
They just, I don't know, it's a luxury,

252
00:11:17,301 --> 00:11:20,471
but it's a luxury that a lot of them
seem to take for granted.

253
00:11:20,763 --> 00:11:24,600
But of course, there are so many amazing
audiences still.

254
00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,603
And, I'm always grateful for that.

255
00:11:27,645 --> 00:11:30,648
I, I'm sure we are going to see
more of that this year,

256
00:11:30,856 --> 00:11:33,609
because there's a lot of good stuff
that's coming out.

257
00:11:33,609 --> 00:11:36,320
So nice. Nice.

258
00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,115
All right, guys, well,
I'm going to head off and you know

259
00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:40,741
like you break it down.

260
00:11:40,741 --> 00:11:42,743
All right I can't wait to see. All right.

261
00:11:42,743 --> 00:11:43,953
Be a good friend.

262
00:11:43,953 --> 00:11:46,831
Be a good friend. Take over. All right.

263
00:11:46,831 --> 00:11:50,084
Now let's talk about something
that you both, participated in.

264
00:11:50,084 --> 00:11:55,715
And I really want to hear about this,
Venice film fest in Venice Beach.

265
00:11:55,756 --> 00:11:58,467
You guys go to Venice,
Italy? We did. That was,

266
00:12:00,636 --> 00:12:03,764
that was very unexpected.

267
00:12:03,764 --> 00:12:05,558
And, it was it?

268
00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:08,894
Yeah, it was in the, September of 24.

269
00:12:09,645 --> 00:12:14,108
And it was, actually a gift from our,
paternal grandmother.

270
00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:16,777
She surprised us.

271
00:12:16,777 --> 00:12:19,780
I really don't know what
the occasion was, but

272
00:12:19,822 --> 00:12:22,324
I guess she just be.

273
00:12:22,324 --> 00:12:26,245
Yeah, I for whatever reason,
she decided that that's, what?

274
00:12:26,454 --> 00:12:27,913
She was going to surprise us with that.

275
00:12:27,913 --> 00:12:31,500
So it was just
Max and I who attended the film festival.

276
00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:34,420
She and my mom kind of taught there
during the day.

277
00:12:34,420 --> 00:12:37,923
Grandma went to, Billy's mom? Yes.

278
00:12:37,923 --> 00:12:40,926
Yeah, she. Man, she's 90 plus.

279
00:12:41,051 --> 00:12:42,678
Right. Bill 1991.

280
00:12:42,678 --> 00:12:44,472
Yeah, I see pictures. Billy said.

281
00:12:44,472 --> 00:12:47,266
Oh, she's amazing. Worcester. Yes.

282
00:12:47,266 --> 00:12:48,851
Oh, wow. She went to Venice.

283
00:12:48,851 --> 00:12:50,519
Yeah, she did.

284
00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:51,645
Oh, nice.

285
00:12:51,645 --> 00:12:51,896
All right.

286
00:12:51,896 --> 00:12:53,981
We'll play a game in Venice.

287
00:12:53,981 --> 00:12:56,025
What was the first thing that you did?

288
00:12:56,025 --> 00:12:57,610
The last thing that you did,

289
00:12:57,610 --> 00:13:00,029
the best thing that you did
and the worst thing that you did.

290
00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,949
The worst thing I did was,

291
00:13:03,949 --> 00:13:08,078
the, evaporators
at the end of not just one,

292
00:13:08,078 --> 00:13:13,000
but every time we went to go see a film,
I, I hated using them.

293
00:13:13,209 --> 00:13:17,546
I could not figure out how to do it,
and I never will again.

294
00:13:17,713 --> 00:13:19,298
Oh, I'm a third grade teacher.

295
00:13:19,298 --> 00:13:20,674
Never been to Venice. What?

296
00:13:20,674 --> 00:13:21,967
Can you explain what you just said?

297
00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:24,637
And what was the.
Proper way to start a water taxis?

298
00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:30,309
And it's just it's so hard
trying to figure out how to think.

299
00:13:30,351 --> 00:13:33,687
Just figuring out how to use them,
you know, they never like we go

300
00:13:33,687 --> 00:13:36,982
to where they say we're going to go
and then they never show up.

301
00:13:36,982 --> 00:13:40,236
And it's just and I know it's
because I wasn't looking at it

302
00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:41,529
right or reading it right.

303
00:13:41,529 --> 00:13:42,905
It's just so confusing.

304
00:13:42,905 --> 00:13:45,241
It's, I thought it was a movie term.

305
00:13:45,241 --> 00:13:47,326
It's the way the transfer function.

306
00:13:47,326 --> 00:13:49,036
Sounds like one. Sorry about that.

307
00:13:49,036 --> 00:13:50,412
Now I was confused.

308
00:13:50,412 --> 00:13:52,915
Oh, wait,
do you take it like a like a bus?

309
00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:53,749
Like you hop on.

310
00:13:53,749 --> 00:13:54,875
Like exactly.

311
00:13:54,875 --> 00:13:57,503
Exactly like a water bus. And it's

312
00:13:58,712 --> 00:14:00,130
it was really hot when we went,

313
00:14:00,130 --> 00:14:03,300
so that didn't help, but,
you know, a burrito.

314
00:14:04,093 --> 00:14:04,885
Fat burrito?

315
00:14:04,885 --> 00:14:05,386
Yeah.

316
00:14:05,386 --> 00:14:08,472
At the end, like,
every time we saw a movie, I was like,

317
00:14:08,472 --> 00:14:09,974
God, I wish I could just enjoy this

318
00:14:09,974 --> 00:14:12,977
without having to think about
how we're going to get home afterwards.

319
00:14:13,143 --> 00:14:16,689
And, but,
no, we enjoyed the movies we saw.

320
00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:19,066
I mean, the films that year were so great.

321
00:14:19,066 --> 00:14:20,401
We picked a good year to go.

322
00:14:20,401 --> 00:14:24,405
Well, we didn't peck,
but we got lucky with a great selection.

323
00:14:24,738 --> 00:14:27,074
So, grandma, thank you. Grandma.

324
00:14:27,074 --> 00:14:27,283
Yeah.

325
00:14:27,283 --> 00:14:27,491
All right.

326
00:14:27,491 --> 00:14:30,244
Worst thing vaporetto, what about best?

327
00:14:30,244 --> 00:14:33,247
First and last.

328
00:14:33,372 --> 00:14:34,081
The films.

329
00:14:34,081 --> 00:14:37,543
That auditorium was absolutely ginormous.

330
00:14:38,294 --> 00:14:41,964
I've never seen anything
so big and grand in our lives.

331
00:14:41,964 --> 00:14:47,803
And, you know, and we didn't have the same
seats for the entirety of the festival.

332
00:14:47,803 --> 00:14:51,557
So it was really interesting
watching movies from various viewpoints

333
00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:54,268
throughout the time.
Some one of the times we were,

334
00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:58,898
like the far, far left side.

335
00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:00,900
And at the very front.

336
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,860
So the screen looked very different

337
00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:05,863
and say when we were sitting
in the way, way back.

338
00:15:06,071 --> 00:15:10,242
And then sometimes we were like towards
the front, never directly in the middle.

339
00:15:10,242 --> 00:15:13,245
But it's it does it is interesting.

340
00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:18,208
The various that people audiences do have

341
00:15:18,542 --> 00:15:23,797
very different preferences, on seating,
how they like the screen to.

342
00:15:24,131 --> 00:15:24,465
Yeah.

343
00:15:24,465 --> 00:15:28,928
To look, you know, some audiences
really prefer being like way up front

344
00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:33,432
and having to, you know, look up,
which is kind of unusual, but,

345
00:15:34,183 --> 00:15:37,186
it's it's interesting for sure.

346
00:15:37,394 --> 00:15:38,020
Jake.

347
00:15:38,020 --> 00:15:41,023
Best worst first, last.

348
00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:44,777
Yes, though I don't

349
00:15:45,361 --> 00:15:48,280
I mean, honestly, I would probably say
the worst was probably to heat.

350
00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,532
It was really hot over there.

351
00:15:50,532 --> 00:15:52,284
They don't even have.

352
00:15:52,284 --> 00:15:54,995
They don't I don't think
they really have ice there either.

353
00:15:54,995 --> 00:15:58,457
So I mean, they do, but, they, it.

354
00:15:59,416 --> 00:16:02,169
Yeah,
they, they sell it in like a big bag.

355
00:16:02,169 --> 00:16:05,506
And so we kind of had to organize
that in our freezer.

356
00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:08,050
And it was just a beautiful city.

357
00:16:08,050 --> 00:16:10,761
But it's not it's traditional.

358
00:16:10,761 --> 00:16:11,804
It was.

359
00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:12,972
Well, it was it was hot.

360
00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,098
It was, it was hot.

361
00:16:14,098 --> 00:16:16,642
But, that would probably be
the worst thing.

362
00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:19,853
And, the best thing,
I agree, were the films we got very,

363
00:16:20,729 --> 00:16:23,816
lucky that that year with a great lineup,

364
00:16:25,150 --> 00:16:28,612
the, the brutal,
it was, 100 films in competition

365
00:16:28,612 --> 00:16:30,489
and that was nominated
for a bunch of stuff.

366
00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:32,574
So we got to see that there.

367
00:16:32,574 --> 00:16:34,368
We saw,

368
00:16:34,368 --> 00:16:37,329
a few episodes as well of the,

369
00:16:37,329 --> 00:16:40,124
the Apple TV miniseries
disclaimer as well.

370
00:16:40,124 --> 00:16:42,334
They did that in a other section.

371
00:16:42,334 --> 00:16:44,753
So that was cool. We,

372
00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:47,131
yeah, it was,

373
00:16:47,131 --> 00:16:50,718
we saw Angelina Jolie and, and in person.

374
00:16:50,718 --> 00:16:51,802
In person. Yes.

375
00:16:51,802 --> 00:16:56,473
We did, you know, witnessed
not like, engage where she was

376
00:16:56,473 --> 00:16:59,810
stepping off of a bow and looked like
she had stuff to do other than, you know,

377
00:16:59,810 --> 00:17:04,064
did not time for us enough within our
our eye range that we truly like.

378
00:17:04,064 --> 00:17:05,983
We truly saw her get out and.

379
00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:07,067
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

380
00:17:07,067 --> 00:17:11,447
And then we saw, Vincent London,
who's a, French actor who we like.

381
00:17:11,447 --> 00:17:15,826
And he ended up actually
winning the best, actor prize at Venezia.

382
00:17:16,285 --> 00:17:18,495
And we,
he was in the screening of his film,

383
00:17:18,495 --> 00:17:21,123
I think it was called The Quiet
or something like that. Yeah.

384
00:17:21,123 --> 00:17:25,210
And, yeah, we gave a big applause at
the end for him, and that was really nice.

385
00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:27,796
So, that. Yeah, it was just.

386
00:17:27,796 --> 00:17:30,466
I mean, that's really why we went
there was the festival, and we were.

387
00:17:30,466 --> 00:17:33,552
I was happy to be able to experience that,
with you, Max.

388
00:17:33,552 --> 00:17:34,136
That was.

389
00:17:34,136 --> 00:17:34,803
Yeah, definitely.

390
00:17:34,803 --> 00:17:37,139
I had a great time.
Yeah, it was wonderful. And then,

391
00:17:38,182 --> 00:17:38,474
Yeah.

392
00:17:38,474 --> 00:17:41,185
So that was the best and worst,
I would say.

393
00:17:41,185 --> 00:17:42,603
And I don't know what your.

394
00:17:42,603 --> 00:17:44,772
Other first thing you did
in the last thing you did.

395
00:17:44,772 --> 00:17:45,522
Oh, yes.

396
00:17:45,522 --> 00:17:48,525
First thing I did, first thing we did was,

397
00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:50,986
find our, driver

398
00:17:50,986 --> 00:17:55,616
who got us to our villa
that we rented, and, man.

399
00:17:55,783 --> 00:17:56,575
Live in it. Up.

400
00:17:56,575 --> 00:17:59,578
Yeah, yeah. That's badass.
I say that right.

401
00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:00,704
But what was.

402
00:18:00,704 --> 00:18:04,374
I think so, no, no,
the water transportation apparatus.

403
00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:05,417
What is it?

404
00:18:05,417 --> 00:18:07,586
Evaporate us. Evaporate us?

405
00:18:07,586 --> 00:18:09,254
I'm a fool. Don't know that one.
All right.

406
00:18:09,254 --> 00:18:10,964
Evaporate as I'm going to remember. Yeah.

407
00:18:10,964 --> 00:18:13,967
And then the last thing we did,
I believe, was,

408
00:18:15,677 --> 00:18:18,680
before we left, I think I had,

409
00:18:18,972 --> 00:18:20,766
crap that morning. I think that. Yeah.

410
00:18:20,766 --> 00:18:21,517
Which are very good.

411
00:18:21,517 --> 00:18:23,769
So they tell us. Strawberry banana cream.

412
00:18:23,769 --> 00:18:25,646
Yeah. Yeah,
that's the only way to go. Yeah.

413
00:18:27,606 --> 00:18:30,400
What about a couple years earlier?

414
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,403
Philly film festival? Yes.

415
00:18:34,196 --> 00:18:34,863
You know what?

416
00:18:34,863 --> 00:18:40,536
This year, I thought I thought I won,
I think this past year of 25

417
00:18:40,536 --> 00:18:46,291
I think was probably my favorite
because first of all, I, I'd seen the most

418
00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:49,294
films started and I'd ever seen, I think

419
00:18:49,419 --> 00:18:52,464
how many 20 something, at least 21.

420
00:18:53,048 --> 00:18:57,511
Maybe 22 of the films,
that one you saw all 21?

421
00:18:57,511 --> 00:19:01,765
No, 22 films
I saw this year at the festival in Philly.

422
00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:04,726
Some of them were from,

423
00:19:04,726 --> 00:19:07,688
had premiered in Venice,
some of them from Kansas.

424
00:19:08,355 --> 00:19:11,358
But, no, I'd seen,

425
00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:14,194
yeah, you'd seen 21.

426
00:19:14,194 --> 00:19:15,112
I'd seen one.

427
00:19:15,112 --> 00:19:17,948
Yeah, yeah, it was 21. But,
you know, we go

428
00:19:17,948 --> 00:19:21,118
there are free features there
in Philadelphia that we used.

429
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,745
One of them had just completely gotten,

430
00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:26,915
redecorated.

431
00:19:26,915 --> 00:19:29,042
So it looks gorgeous.

432
00:19:29,042 --> 00:19:31,837
One of the figures
I'd never even been to before.

433
00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:34,673
So this year,
I finally got to go to all three.

434
00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:37,801
And, yeah,
it was so many people showed up.

435
00:19:38,886 --> 00:19:41,263
Philadelphia has a great community
for sure.

436
00:19:41,263 --> 00:19:41,889
Yeah.

437
00:19:41,889 --> 00:19:43,265
Is it by the Liberty Bell?

438
00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:44,808
Is it by where the Sixers play?

439
00:19:44,808 --> 00:19:46,351
Where you know what, it's interesting.

440
00:19:46,351 --> 00:19:49,354
They're all sort of spread out.

441
00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:51,273
None of them are particularly there.

442
00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:53,275
There's an East theater. Yeah.

443
00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:56,278
Then there's the main theater,
which is near,

444
00:19:57,196 --> 00:20:00,866
I think the, I don't know
what building it is that's in the center.

445
00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:06,038
But, like, kind of like,
right in downtown Philadelphia.

446
00:20:06,038 --> 00:20:07,789
And then there's.

447
00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:09,082
Oh, yeah, Broad Street. Right.

448
00:20:09,082 --> 00:20:12,711
And then there's, the new one
that we went to and I.

449
00:20:12,711 --> 00:20:13,962
Where is that located?

450
00:20:13,962 --> 00:20:16,798
Max, do you know that is located?

451
00:20:19,509 --> 00:20:21,762
It's it's,

452
00:20:21,762 --> 00:20:24,348
it's I don't remember either,
but it's on, like,

453
00:20:24,348 --> 00:20:27,267
I probably the other side of town,
but it's beautiful. Yeah.

454
00:20:27,267 --> 00:20:29,937
They did a great job. Yeah. How many years
have you been going to that?

455
00:20:29,937 --> 00:20:32,439
I been going since 2019.

456
00:20:32,439 --> 00:20:34,024
2020 was virtual.

457
00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:39,488
So, yeah, but I have every
I've partaken every year since then.

458
00:20:39,738 --> 00:20:42,616
Very cool. Just sponsored by.

459
00:20:42,616 --> 00:20:44,409
Aka hotels Larry Korman.

460
00:20:44,409 --> 00:20:45,702
He is wonderful.

461
00:20:45,702 --> 00:20:49,456
And he is, as passionate about cinema
as I am.

462
00:20:49,456 --> 00:20:51,583
And yeah, it's been great.

463
00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:54,503
We've gone on such a long journey
together.

464
00:20:54,503 --> 00:20:54,711
Yeah.

465
00:20:54,711 --> 00:20:58,590
We mentioned Arc Hotels
minute 26 of our last podcast.

466
00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:01,593
So when's the last time
you, interacted with them?

467
00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:03,220
All right.

468
00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:04,680
I think it was the first of all.

469
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,683
I mean, he and I really don't
get to see each other that often.

470
00:21:08,225 --> 00:21:09,226
It really sucks.

471
00:21:09,226 --> 00:21:11,979
But, he's he's so phenomenal,

472
00:21:11,979 --> 00:21:15,524
and he's very generous,
and he does so much great work.

473
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,362
For people, he's very selfless
and he's just very passionate

474
00:21:20,362 --> 00:21:22,656
about cinema and the arts in general.

475
00:21:22,656 --> 00:21:25,033
So, yeah, I'm very proud of him.

476
00:21:25,033 --> 00:21:30,789
We did stay at his new arc in Boston back
in December, so that was a great year.

477
00:21:30,914 --> 00:21:33,250
Way to end the year. So yeah.

478
00:21:34,334 --> 00:21:36,795
Very cool, very cool.

479
00:21:36,795 --> 00:21:38,380
You ready to break down some movies?

480
00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:39,923
I am.

481
00:21:39,923 --> 00:21:40,340
Oh, yeah.

482
00:21:40,340 --> 00:21:44,052
What happened last year after my podcast,
someone reached out to you,

483
00:21:44,052 --> 00:21:46,805
saw our podcast. What happened?

484
00:21:46,805 --> 00:21:48,598
Dennis house. He had me on.

485
00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:52,019
And it was a really fun experience.

486
00:21:52,019 --> 00:21:55,647
And, getting to share my productions and,

487
00:21:56,356 --> 00:21:58,650
I hope to do it again this year.

488
00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:00,569
We'll see.

489
00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:04,573
So. Yeah, so we definitely have a lot
to talk to him about. Yes.

490
00:22:04,573 --> 00:22:08,076
So it was great that Dennis house
gave me a nice little shout out,

491
00:22:08,910 --> 00:22:12,706
prior to that episode or prior
to at the beginning of your episode.

492
00:22:12,706 --> 00:22:13,623
So thank you, Dennis.

493
00:22:13,623 --> 00:22:16,626
He was episode 25, great friend.

494
00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:19,504
You were awesome on the show.

495
00:22:19,504 --> 00:22:21,882
Your predictions all hit, right?

496
00:22:21,882 --> 00:22:23,342
They did. Yeah.

497
00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:24,134
I know,

498
00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:27,220
did your predictions change from the
predictions that you made on our podcast?

499
00:22:27,929 --> 00:22:29,389
No, I don't think so.

500
00:22:29,389 --> 00:22:30,307
My recap.

501
00:22:30,307 --> 00:22:32,684
Let's go over your 2025 recap you had.

502
00:22:32,684 --> 00:22:35,520
Best picture was, brutalist.

503
00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:37,773
You had that.

504
00:22:37,773 --> 00:22:38,940
Picked I did yeah.

505
00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:41,234
So I thought that was going to
when it did.

506
00:22:41,234 --> 00:22:43,570
Director

507
00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:45,947
I think you said brutalist.

508
00:22:45,947 --> 00:22:46,865
No it did.

509
00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:49,618
Well, it didn't,
it didn't when I for one incorrect.

510
00:22:49,618 --> 00:22:52,621
I was one year and, actress

511
00:22:53,121 --> 00:22:55,374
remember who he said and who won?

512
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:59,127
I mean, I changed my predictions
from when I went on.

513
00:22:59,211 --> 00:23:01,505
Oh, nice. What made you do that?

514
00:23:01,505 --> 00:23:04,508
The Sags had come. The SAG Awards.

515
00:23:04,508 --> 00:23:07,469
And sometimes you you do,

516
00:23:07,928 --> 00:23:09,971
your,

517
00:23:09,971 --> 00:23:12,724
your predictions do change.

518
00:23:12,724 --> 00:23:13,892
It's it's tough.

519
00:23:13,892 --> 00:23:15,519
I think this year is harder now.

520
00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:17,437
I think that there are quite a few

521
00:23:17,437 --> 00:23:20,774
categories
where surprises could be in order.

522
00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:22,818
Yeah. No, you were great. You.

523
00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:26,071
Those are the two out of 20
that I noticed.

524
00:23:27,447 --> 00:23:30,075
But I still have to see the brutalist
because of that.

525
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:32,828
And, Adrien
Brody one. Year, he was perfect.

526
00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:37,791
No, it was great.

527
00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:38,708
Any predictions?

528
00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:39,835
I want to get into your.

529
00:23:39,835 --> 00:23:41,920
So that was review of 2025.

530
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,006
He he changed and you hit him on the head
at Dennis house.

531
00:23:45,006 --> 00:23:46,758
That was amazing. Channel eight.

532
00:23:46,758 --> 00:23:48,093
Be on the lookout for Max.

533
00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:50,887
He will be going on again
for the Oscar previews.

534
00:23:50,887 --> 00:23:52,931
Again. Dennis house, good friend.

535
00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:55,058
Episode 25 I just saw him today.

536
00:23:55,058 --> 00:23:57,602
Oh very good. Yeah.

537
00:23:57,602 --> 00:23:58,186
Right.

538
00:23:58,186 --> 00:24:00,480
Want to get into 26?

539
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,064
Who's going to win?

540
00:24:01,064 --> 00:24:02,190
Let's make some predictions.

541
00:24:02,190 --> 00:24:04,860
And NY best picture.

542
00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:06,862
Are you guys together different?

543
00:24:06,862 --> 00:24:08,572
We're probably different.

544
00:24:08,572 --> 00:24:10,699
Oh let's see. Why don't you go first, Max?

545
00:24:10,699 --> 00:24:12,826
I think one battle after and off
her will win.

546
00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:16,413
Picture and director,
I do think Salomé will win.

547
00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:21,042
Lead actor, best actress is tough.

548
00:24:21,042 --> 00:24:23,420
It's either going to be Jessie Buckley
or Rose Byrne.

549
00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:25,714
I do think it will be Jessie Buckley.

550
00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:28,133
She's. She's been very popular.

551
00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:29,342
And she was she was great.

552
00:24:29,342 --> 00:24:32,012
So I'll be happy for her if she wins.

553
00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:36,975
I think that I think that Jacob Elordi

554
00:24:36,975 --> 00:24:42,022
will end up winning,
Best supporting actor for Frankenstein.

555
00:24:42,022 --> 00:24:44,149
I think that

556
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:46,234
I think that

557
00:24:46,234 --> 00:24:49,738
I think that Stellan Skarsgard
is probably the only other person

558
00:24:49,738 --> 00:24:52,324
who could beat him,
but that would be for sentimental reasons.

559
00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:54,451
And he wasn't even nominated for the SAG.

560
00:24:54,451 --> 00:24:58,205
So I think I think, Elordi will end up
winning.

561
00:24:58,622 --> 00:25:01,500
We'll talk more about Frankenstein Centers

562
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:04,503
one battle
after another in Train Dreams next.

563
00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:08,798
But before we do that, Jacob Elordi,
is he Frankenstein in the movie?

564
00:25:09,674 --> 00:25:10,258
Or is he.

565
00:25:10,258 --> 00:25:11,176
Is the creature the.

566
00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:14,095
Creature great,
because Frankenstein is the doctor.

567
00:25:14,095 --> 00:25:15,889
He's the Frankenstein's monster. Yes.

568
00:25:15,889 --> 00:25:17,557
And then best supporting actress.

569
00:25:17,557 --> 00:25:20,852
Well, I'm hoping Teyana Taylor will win.

570
00:25:20,852 --> 00:25:26,441
If not, Amy Madigan will win for weapons,
which I also loved very much.

571
00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:28,068
That was really entertaining.

572
00:25:29,444 --> 00:25:30,153
It was

573
00:25:30,153 --> 00:25:34,366
probably like, just it was
it was really fun.

574
00:25:34,366 --> 00:25:37,369
It was, it was definitely,

575
00:25:38,828 --> 00:25:40,664
good escapism.

576
00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:41,581
That movie was.

577
00:25:41,581 --> 00:25:43,625
But, yeah, I think to honorable win.

578
00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:47,087
And I really think she deserves that,
so I think so when.

579
00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:50,549
She was,

580
00:25:51,883 --> 00:25:53,301
Not in the whole movie.

581
00:25:53,301 --> 00:25:54,302
No. She was the mom.

582
00:25:54,302 --> 00:25:54,803
That kind of.

583
00:25:54,803 --> 00:25:57,806
She was in the movie
for only the first 30 minutes.

584
00:25:58,139 --> 00:26:00,976
I mean, that's, I guess what
you would call it, supporting performance.

585
00:26:00,976 --> 00:26:02,727
All right. The point. Yeah.

586
00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:02,978
All right.

587
00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:05,689
We got Blue Pan out.
We did Max's picks with the blue pen.

588
00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:08,608
Let's hear Jake's picks for Best picture.

589
00:26:08,608 --> 00:26:10,986
And you go down the list.

590
00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:13,989
I mean realistically, I mean, I think that

591
00:26:15,156 --> 00:26:17,284
as of this moment, it looks like

592
00:26:17,284 --> 00:26:20,328
it's going to be one battle
after another for picture in director

593
00:26:21,454 --> 00:26:24,457
I. It's not impossible if,

594
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:27,544
sinner surprises everyone

595
00:26:27,544 --> 00:26:32,799
and gets those two awards,
which is kind of what I'm hoping for

596
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,802
because it's already made history
so far by being the most,

597
00:26:36,636 --> 00:26:38,972
receiving the most nominations
for a single film.

598
00:26:38,972 --> 00:26:41,975
16 and,

599
00:26:42,517 --> 00:26:46,021
I think I
yeah, I mean, I think that for like

600
00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:50,275
a mainstream Hollywood film,
it broke, a lot of barrier barriers. Yes.

601
00:26:50,317 --> 00:26:50,692
It was.

602
00:26:50,692 --> 00:26:53,653
So, that could probably surprise
all of us.

603
00:26:53,653 --> 00:26:54,195
In many ways.

604
00:26:54,195 --> 00:26:58,158
I do think that, actor
will most likely go to Shalom.

605
00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:03,371
And actress
will probably go to Jessie Buckley,

606
00:27:03,872 --> 00:27:06,374
which I'll be happy for her.

607
00:27:06,374 --> 00:27:07,417
I would rather go.

608
00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:08,585
I would rather Roseanne.

609
00:27:08,585 --> 00:27:10,712
But, you know, we'll see.

610
00:27:10,712 --> 00:27:14,257
And, Best Supporting Actor,
I think will be Stone scar.

611
00:27:14,257 --> 00:27:14,549
Scar?

612
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:18,470
He's an old timer
and a veteran actor and really good. And,

613
00:27:19,596 --> 00:27:22,641
I think that, Did you guys see
sentimental?

614
00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:23,725
Well, yes. And it was great.

615
00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:27,520
And I also think that, that will win
Best Supporting Actress as well.

616
00:27:27,562 --> 00:27:32,484
The, sister in that movie and God,
she's a Norwegian actress.

617
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,819
What's her name?

618
00:27:34,819 --> 00:27:36,279
And gossip starter.

619
00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:37,489
Lilith.

620
00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:38,615
If I'm pronouncing that right.

621
00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:40,200
Yeah, yeah. She's great.

622
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,745
You seem to be in agreement on all of them
except supporting actor.

623
00:27:44,913 --> 00:27:46,081
Yeah.

624
00:27:46,081 --> 00:27:48,541
All right, well, we're really excited

625
00:27:48,541 --> 00:27:51,544
to see your predictions come true.

626
00:27:51,586 --> 00:27:53,505
You hit it on the head last time.

627
00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:58,635
Also last time, amazingly,
you went down from 1978

628
00:27:58,843 --> 00:28:01,930
to present day and did every action Oscar

629
00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:05,225
picture winner in order.

630
00:28:05,225 --> 00:28:06,518
Super impressive.

631
00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:08,478
That was minute.

632
00:28:08,478 --> 00:28:11,481
It was amazing.

633
00:28:11,564 --> 00:28:13,775
56. Go back and check this guy out.

634
00:28:13,775 --> 00:28:16,986
He did every every winner from 1978.

635
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:17,862
Can you do that?

636
00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:20,156
You don't have to now, but can you?

637
00:28:20,156 --> 00:28:21,157
I can, yes.

638
00:28:21,157 --> 00:28:22,826
Wow. You guys are amazing.

639
00:28:22,826 --> 00:28:24,994
Your movie knowledge is through the roof.

640
00:28:25,995 --> 00:28:27,872
Where did that inspiration come from?

641
00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:29,916
Where did you guys learn to love movies?

642
00:28:29,916 --> 00:28:30,959
Why? How?

643
00:28:30,959 --> 00:28:32,293
Probably my child.

644
00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:34,295
I mean, you know, probably my childhood.

645
00:28:34,295 --> 00:28:37,298
Yeah.

646
00:28:37,382 --> 00:28:39,926
I just, I guess

647
00:28:39,926 --> 00:28:43,888
found it
cool that, visuals could move on screen,

648
00:28:43,888 --> 00:28:47,475
and they could talk
and they could make you feel things.

649
00:28:47,475 --> 00:28:50,478
I thought that was like magic in a way.

650
00:28:50,645 --> 00:28:53,648
And I remember,

651
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:57,569
just, you know, as a kid, you like bright,

652
00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,655
shiny colors, and you like things
that kind of draw your attention.

653
00:29:00,655 --> 00:29:03,658
And, I always felt that way
when I saw the,

654
00:29:04,367 --> 00:29:07,829
old, Paramount logo
with the stars coming down.

655
00:29:07,871 --> 00:29:10,707
Like, I thought that was really cool.

656
00:29:10,707 --> 00:29:11,750
So I.

657
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:15,170
Yeah,
I have very, vivid memories of that. And,

658
00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:18,298
you know, and I have a very strong,

659
00:29:19,466 --> 00:29:20,550
photographic memory,

660
00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:23,553
so I'm able to, like, remember,

661
00:29:23,595 --> 00:29:28,266
the way that certain shots line up
and I just, you know, it's.

662
00:29:28,266 --> 00:29:31,227
Yeah. I'm just. Yeah.

663
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:32,437
My memorable movie.

664
00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:34,898
I saw it in the Drive-In.

665
00:29:34,898 --> 00:29:35,190
Right?

666
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:38,151
Cried like a baby when it went home,
and I was.

667
00:29:38,151 --> 00:29:40,570
She stayed with Elliot still to this day.

668
00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:42,071
Icon gets me.

669
00:29:42,071 --> 00:29:44,032
Great movie. Yeah.

670
00:29:44,032 --> 00:29:47,243
So one of those movies, like,
makes you fall in love with movies? Yep.

671
00:29:48,536 --> 00:29:49,621
What was your E.T movie?

672
00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:53,124
Do you have a good movie that you remember
that just like, man, this is it.

673
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,878
This is what I love.

674
00:29:56,878 --> 00:29:58,087
I at that age.

675
00:29:58,087 --> 00:30:01,049
Yeah.

676
00:30:02,967 --> 00:30:03,718
Probably not.

677
00:30:03,718 --> 00:30:04,844
When I was young.

678
00:30:04,844 --> 00:30:08,890
Yeah I probably there was a lot
of anticipation I think when we were young

679
00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:10,642
chilled out,
there was going to come a time

680
00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:14,312
when we were going to see something
that was going to completely blow us away.

681
00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:18,733
But we didn't quite know what that was
going to be, but it was whatever it was,

682
00:30:18,733 --> 00:30:19,776
it was going to be great.

683
00:30:21,611 --> 00:30:23,071
Cool.

684
00:30:23,071 --> 00:30:26,074
Yeah, I would say, yeah,
I would say probably,

685
00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:31,579
I mean, you know, as
I got older, you know, in Ingmar Bergman,

686
00:30:31,579 --> 00:30:35,083
you know, all his stuff,
particularly cries in Whispers, it's just,

687
00:30:36,209 --> 00:30:36,668
Yeah.

688
00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:39,629
All his stuff is so good.

689
00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:40,755
Yeah.

690
00:30:40,755 --> 00:30:41,464
The older I got,

691
00:30:41,464 --> 00:30:45,009
I probably saw, like, a lot more things
that really stick out to me.

692
00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:47,136
Nice, nice.

693
00:30:47,136 --> 00:30:50,098
Noah and we were on a text chain
and we talked movies.

694
00:30:50,098 --> 00:30:53,101
We were going to pick for movies
that we wanted to talk about.

695
00:30:53,393 --> 00:30:56,729
You guys want to talk about your movie
you picked and why?

696
00:30:57,981 --> 00:30:59,107
What movie do you want to start with?

697
00:30:59,107 --> 00:30:59,983
I'll let you start.

698
00:30:59,983 --> 00:31:02,986
You can pick,

699
00:31:03,236 --> 00:31:05,822
I got some notes.

700
00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:08,408
What movie did
you want to talk about first?

701
00:31:08,408 --> 00:31:11,369
We'll talk about one battle
after another first.

702
00:31:11,411 --> 00:31:15,248
I it's it's stayed in features
for such a long time.

703
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:17,375
First of all, that always helps,

704
00:31:19,085 --> 00:31:21,963
I think how long was it in theaters,

705
00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:24,966
give or take?

706
00:31:25,008 --> 00:31:26,342
Almost three months.

707
00:31:26,342 --> 00:31:29,345
Wow. Almost.

708
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,892
What's the record for a movie
in a theater?

709
00:31:34,517 --> 00:31:36,019
Oh, I don't know.

710
00:31:36,019 --> 00:31:37,228
It was. A Titanic or something.

711
00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:39,647
Maybe. Maybe the,

712
00:31:39,647 --> 00:31:41,733
I think The Dark Knight
was also in theaters

713
00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:44,736
for a really long time, too.

714
00:31:47,697 --> 00:31:49,407
I mean, you know,

715
00:31:49,407 --> 00:31:52,410
with streaming move,
it doesn't take long for movies. To

716
00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:56,539
what, once
they leave figures to go to streaming,

717
00:31:56,539 --> 00:31:59,918
they don't go directly, but it doesn't
really take as long as it used to.

718
00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:02,921
So, depends on,

719
00:32:03,296 --> 00:32:05,882
It does depend on the box office. Nice.

720
00:32:05,882 --> 00:32:09,344
You know,
if something is getting a lot of traction,

721
00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:12,347
they'll keep it on their.

722
00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:17,018
What do you have,
like a scoring rubric or a report card?

723
00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:18,770
How do you break down in judge movies?

724
00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:22,732
And if you if so,
how are we going to break down this movie?

725
00:32:22,732 --> 00:32:25,735
One battle after another.

726
00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:29,739
Storyline characters like,
you know, it's interesting.

727
00:32:29,739 --> 00:32:32,200
I didn't,

728
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,202
I sort of knew what it was about

729
00:32:34,202 --> 00:32:37,205
before I saw it, but I sort of didn't.

730
00:32:38,665 --> 00:32:41,668
I think,

731
00:32:41,918 --> 00:32:43,294
I think when it was over,

732
00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:47,340
the first time I saw it,
I kind of had to, like question.

733
00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:48,716
I did just see that.

734
00:32:48,716 --> 00:32:51,302
Right? Like, I'm not just a match. Yeah.

735
00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:54,597
Then I see it again and I'm like,
okay, that's the confirmation.

736
00:32:54,847 --> 00:32:58,559
I think the first screening
was the invite, the second was the

737
00:32:58,559 --> 00:32:59,769
confirmation.

738
00:32:59,769 --> 00:33:03,523
And then every time after that, I just
I really enjoyed it many times.

739
00:33:03,523 --> 00:33:06,234
Have you seen it?

740
00:33:06,234 --> 00:33:08,027
Five I think.

741
00:33:08,027 --> 00:33:10,530
Jake.

742
00:33:10,530 --> 00:33:13,282
I think I only saw it twice and there.

743
00:33:13,282 --> 00:33:16,327
Yeah. In the theater. Twice. Nice.

744
00:33:17,412 --> 00:33:19,622
Great soundtrack

745
00:33:19,622 --> 00:33:21,374
ends with American girl Tom petty.

746
00:33:21,374 --> 00:33:22,417
I thought that was very good. Yeah.

747
00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:25,378
Such great touch. Yeah, definitely.

748
00:33:25,461 --> 00:33:28,464
The code that they say to each other,

749
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:32,969
Green acres, Beverly Hillbillies, hooter,
ville junction.

750
00:33:32,969 --> 00:33:34,303
Yeah. That's from.

751
00:33:34,303 --> 00:33:35,346
No, I don't.

752
00:33:35,346 --> 00:33:36,931
Those are all classic TV shows.

753
00:33:36,931 --> 00:33:39,934
Green acres was a TV show,

754
00:33:39,934 --> 00:33:41,561
Beverly Hillbillies was a TV show.

755
00:33:41,561 --> 00:33:45,982
And Green Acres took place
at who Deville Junction before my time.

756
00:33:45,982 --> 00:33:48,985
It was on Nick at night. Black and white.

757
00:33:49,318 --> 00:33:51,988
Seems like something Paul PTA would do.

758
00:33:51,988 --> 00:33:53,072
Oh, yeah, PTA.

759
00:33:53,072 --> 00:33:55,158
I did some research on him.

760
00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:56,159
That's something.

761
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:59,746
Yeah, and the Christmas Adventurers Club,
that's like a real thing.

762
00:34:00,163 --> 00:34:03,166
You guys know that? Oh. That's horrible.

763
00:34:03,166 --> 00:34:03,916
That's crazy.

764
00:34:03,916 --> 00:34:06,753
Yeah, I did not. Well,
I mean, I know that there are,

765
00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:10,506
you know, ridiculous organizations
like that.

766
00:34:10,506 --> 00:34:12,842
I didn't know that
that was actually a real one.

767
00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:13,843
It doesn't surprise me.

768
00:34:13,843 --> 00:34:16,512
It's Hungarian
and the Hungarian name stands.

769
00:34:16,512 --> 00:34:18,389
It's like KKK.

770
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:19,807
Two three cards in a row.

771
00:34:19,807 --> 00:34:22,769
Obviously. Makes sense. Right?

772
00:34:23,102 --> 00:34:26,105
Did you think?

773
00:34:26,397 --> 00:34:27,648
We're spoilers.

774
00:34:27,648 --> 00:34:29,567
We're going to do some spoilers.

775
00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:32,570
It is the 16 year old daughter

776
00:34:33,696 --> 00:34:35,823
lock. Jaws are Leos.

777
00:34:35,823 --> 00:34:38,576
She is. She's, Sean Patten's. Right.

778
00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:40,828
That's crazy.

779
00:34:40,828 --> 00:34:43,206
Did did she tell Leo?

780
00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:45,458
No, I don't think so.

781
00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:48,336
Do you think I think he I think
they all know they don't really care.

782
00:34:48,336 --> 00:34:51,297
Does Leo have the right to know?

783
00:34:52,006 --> 00:34:54,383
It wouldn't change
how Leo feels about his daughter.

784
00:34:54,383 --> 00:34:56,344
It will always be his daughter.

785
00:34:56,344 --> 00:34:57,470
Agree or disagree?

786
00:34:57,470 --> 00:35:00,473
No, I agree.

787
00:35:00,848 --> 00:35:02,350
I think

788
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:05,353
I think
hearing perfidious voice at the end,

789
00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:09,315
you know, you never forget that
throughout the entirety of the film

790
00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:13,653
that she was even there,

791
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:18,366
she it's

792
00:35:19,659 --> 00:35:24,163
it's not really clear
whether or not she finds redemption

793
00:35:24,163 --> 00:35:27,959
for selling out all those, all her,

794
00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:31,879
all her friends. But,

795
00:35:31,879 --> 00:35:35,550
it's easier to judge her
when you're not in that situation.

796
00:35:35,883 --> 00:35:39,345
I think that she behaved

797
00:35:39,345 --> 00:35:42,598
very recklessly, and foolishly at times.

798
00:35:42,598 --> 00:35:47,103
But, you know, the very
the most necessary things to do

799
00:35:47,103 --> 00:35:50,690
and even the greatest people are kind of
like that.

800
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:54,110
So, she's definitely just

801
00:35:54,610 --> 00:35:58,698
she's going to go down as, like, such
an iconic character as she has already.

802
00:35:59,073 --> 00:36:02,076
Yeah. I that was just,

803
00:36:02,285 --> 00:36:05,913
you know, you and the film with her and
you, I mean, you opened the film with her,

804
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,667
you and the film with her daughter,
and they're both going out to do

805
00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:11,085
the same thing.

806
00:36:11,085 --> 00:36:12,170
Very cool.

807
00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:14,172
We see the apple doesn't
fall far from the tree.

808
00:36:15,923 --> 00:36:17,383
And then the car scene.

809
00:36:17,383 --> 00:36:18,926
The car chase scene.

810
00:36:18,926 --> 00:36:21,262
Fantastic. Oh, well, the dessert.

811
00:36:21,262 --> 00:36:21,929
Dessert too.

812
00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:25,057
I mean, you really understand the title
one battle

813
00:36:25,057 --> 00:36:28,019
after another when you keep seeing
that held are so steep.

814
00:36:28,978 --> 00:36:30,855
I'm interested,
you know, just, like, up and down.

815
00:36:30,855 --> 00:36:31,564
Up and down.

816
00:36:31,564 --> 00:36:32,190
Like, it's just.

817
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:35,193
It's so repetitive,
which is exactly what they're doing.

818
00:36:35,484 --> 00:36:39,906
And I think Benicio del Toro
was probably the most,

819
00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:44,619
he was so,

820
00:36:44,619 --> 00:36:47,038
calm in the face of all that chaos.

821
00:36:47,038 --> 00:36:48,664
Like, he had done this a thousand times.

822
00:36:48,664 --> 00:36:51,042
He knew exactly what to do. Yeah.

823
00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:52,501
I loved that character.

824
00:36:52,501 --> 00:36:55,087
Now, was he there for.

825
00:36:55,087 --> 00:36:59,342
Did he know Leo situation,
or was he more for the immigration side?

826
00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:01,886
But Benicio.

827
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:03,971
He's there forever. There for everyone.

828
00:37:03,971 --> 00:37:06,515
That's because he knew.
He knew the whole deal.

829
00:37:06,515 --> 00:37:08,267
Like the plan where to go. So.

830
00:37:08,267 --> 00:37:10,686
And he was in it such a short time.

831
00:37:10,686 --> 00:37:13,064
He can still be up for supporting actor.

832
00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:15,483
Yeah. That's amazing. I hope he wins.
I love that.

833
00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:17,193
He was great. He was great. He's cool.

834
00:37:17,193 --> 00:37:18,361
It was great in Sicario.

835
00:37:18,361 --> 00:37:20,321
If you've seen. That,
I got to see that too.

836
00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:22,907
Now there's a cool, cool actor.

837
00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:24,867
He's cool. He is. Yeah.

838
00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:29,163
Know that

839
00:37:29,163 --> 00:37:33,084
in a car scene, Chase was seven minutes
long and you're in it.

840
00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:33,709
I was in it.

841
00:37:33,709 --> 00:37:37,380
And then the way that they show
the rearview mirror,

842
00:37:37,964 --> 00:37:42,301
the road, the driver's face, it was good.

843
00:37:43,302 --> 00:37:44,887
What's the word I'm looking for?

844
00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:45,513
Camera work.

845
00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:48,349
Maybe cinematography. Cinematography.

846
00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:51,560
And also,
I thought, as a 16 year old with her hands

847
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,939
bound to know, to park the car
right over a hill.

848
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:57,817
Amazing, brilliant.

849
00:37:57,817 --> 00:38:01,821
And then she hit in a perfect spot,
said the code word guy didn't say it.

850
00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:05,324
He had to go.

851
00:38:05,324 --> 00:38:08,327
He got slimed
because my my daughter would say

852
00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:11,789
anything else on one battle after another.

853
00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:15,418
I don't think so.

854
00:38:15,418 --> 00:38:18,296
I mean, obviously it's

855
00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:21,173
it is

856
00:38:21,173 --> 00:38:23,801
art that kind of reflects
this current moment,

857
00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:25,845
but I think that
kind of speaks for itself.

858
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:27,763
I know I

859
00:38:27,763 --> 00:38:30,766
was thinking
two you think this is happening?

860
00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:32,768
Like, how true is that?

861
00:38:32,768 --> 00:38:35,354
Underground rebellion, I hope.

862
00:38:35,354 --> 00:38:39,358
Oh I don't well, that I don't know about
I mean, well, I know, I mean,

863
00:38:39,358 --> 00:38:42,361
I don't know, but I know that,

864
00:38:42,486 --> 00:38:43,612
there's obviously a lot.

865
00:38:43,612 --> 00:38:46,615
Of it has to some. Yeah.

866
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:47,491
Maybe not.

867
00:38:47,491 --> 00:38:51,662
Not that intense or involved,
but there's some of it, right.

868
00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:52,371
Yeah. For sure.

869
00:38:52,371 --> 00:38:55,958
Get you thinking it's one of those movies
that gets you thinking very much.

870
00:38:55,958 --> 00:38:58,961
And it like you said,
it does tie in to current

871
00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,297
stuff going on,

872
00:39:01,297 --> 00:39:04,258
good or bad, mostly bad or good?

873
00:39:05,593 --> 00:39:06,427
Cool.

874
00:39:06,427 --> 00:39:09,388
What would you score out of ten?

875
00:39:11,098 --> 00:39:13,684
I mean, I

876
00:39:13,684 --> 00:39:16,687
probably like a,

877
00:39:17,646 --> 00:39:20,149
probably like an nothing lower than eight.

878
00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:21,108
I thought it was very good.

879
00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:25,571
Next, I'd give it a ten.

880
00:39:25,571 --> 00:39:27,406
It was a rare bird.

881
00:39:27,406 --> 00:39:29,033
Rare bird. I like it.

882
00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:29,283
All right.

883
00:39:29,283 --> 00:39:32,286
What's the next movie
we're going to talk about?

884
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:34,622
Centers.

885
00:39:34,622 --> 00:39:34,914
Yeah.

886
00:39:34,914 --> 00:39:38,459
That was, ranked seven on my top
ten list this year.

887
00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:41,462
I thought it was fantastic of the year.

888
00:39:41,545 --> 00:39:44,340
Yeah. I make a top ten list, every year.

889
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:46,759
Just kind of like the critics do. It's
just something that's fun.

890
00:39:46,759 --> 00:39:48,302
I enjoy doing it.

891
00:39:48,302 --> 00:39:50,012
And, center is is ranked at seven.

892
00:39:50,012 --> 00:39:53,015
Yeah, I, I saw it,

893
00:39:54,725 --> 00:39:56,143
actually,

894
00:39:56,143 --> 00:40:00,147
and I joke with my, one of my friends
in New York about it that I, today

895
00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:04,735
I went to I went to see it,
I actually did see it on Easter.

896
00:40:05,778 --> 00:40:12,368
And, I was packed that day, too,
so it wasn't just me, but, it was,

897
00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:16,080
I, I actually knew because

898
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,084
it's interesting, because I kind of like
to recommend that movie to people

899
00:40:20,084 --> 00:40:24,088
and not let them know what their about,
what it's about, because then it just,

900
00:40:24,797 --> 00:40:27,800
you know, once the like,

901
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:31,720
I mean, I knew immediately
that it was going to be like

902
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:37,685
a supernatural vampire centered, that
that was kind of going to be the twist.

903
00:40:37,685 --> 00:40:40,688
Like, I knew that already. Yeah.

904
00:40:40,688 --> 00:40:43,858
And I but I wasn't expecting it to be as,

905
00:40:44,942 --> 00:40:48,904
layered and I guess nuanced and crafted.

906
00:40:48,988 --> 00:40:49,238
Yeah.

907
00:40:49,238 --> 00:40:52,241
The way that Ryan Coogler did it.

908
00:40:53,242 --> 00:40:56,328
I, I mean, I really like to that,

909
00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:00,875
I felt that that movie had

910
00:41:00,875 --> 00:41:02,751
one of the things I really liked about
it was that

911
00:41:02,751 --> 00:41:07,131
I just think that it had like,
a lot of really great characters.

912
00:41:08,716 --> 00:41:11,135
Eg I mean, you know,

913
00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:14,889
obviously the brothers both look the same,
but they're both kind of different men.

914
00:41:15,848 --> 00:41:17,975
In a sense,

915
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:20,978
and you know,

916
00:41:21,228 --> 00:41:24,190
I really like the, harmonica player.

917
00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:27,943
I liked,

918
00:41:31,197 --> 00:41:32,948
Did they call him the drunk?

919
00:41:32,948 --> 00:41:35,701
Delta Sam? Yeah. Yeah.

920
00:41:35,701 --> 00:41:37,620
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
They met him at the bus stop.

921
00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:39,872
Yeah, yeah, I like town. I like.

922
00:41:39,872 --> 00:41:40,539
He's famous.

923
00:41:40,539 --> 00:41:41,290
Yeah, yeah.

924
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:44,168
Delroy Lindo yeah, he's a he's great.

925
00:41:44,168 --> 00:41:47,171
I, The preacher man.

926
00:41:48,255 --> 00:41:48,756
Sammy.

927
00:41:48,756 --> 00:41:51,258
Yeah. Yeah, I liked him very much.

928
00:41:51,258 --> 00:41:52,134
Mary.

929
00:41:52,134 --> 00:41:54,845
Yeah. She's awesome.

930
00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:56,388
Yeah. And I love Hailee Steinfeld.

931
00:41:56,388 --> 00:41:57,431
Anyway.

932
00:41:57,431 --> 00:42:00,142
Yeah. Josh Allen sports. Sports.

933
00:42:00,142 --> 00:42:02,520
Josh Allen's wife.

934
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,354
Do like who?

935
00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:05,189
She's dating a football player
now, I think.

936
00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:08,275
Yeah,
I don't yeah, I love, I loved yeah, the,

937
00:42:08,484 --> 00:42:11,862
ending scene
where she comes in, you know, and,

938
00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:15,449
and I like that they both, like, made,

939
00:42:15,449 --> 00:42:17,660
because she and him both looked

940
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:20,746
very much 1930s wear when it was set.

941
00:42:20,746 --> 00:42:27,127
And then 1992 at the end, it looked very
much kind of like they were from 1992.

942
00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:29,046
She kind of had, like, a Kendall Jenner.

943
00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:32,383
Like, I thought it's just a way
that she had her jacket on and was,

944
00:42:33,008 --> 00:42:34,426
you know, he had. Yeah.

945
00:42:34,426 --> 00:42:35,970
In the way he had his arm around her.

946
00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:38,973
I was just like, yeah, this is like

947
00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:39,723
or something.

948
00:42:39,723 --> 00:42:41,976
But I was. A freshman in high school.
1992.

949
00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:43,936
Yeah.
Brought me back to the good old days.

950
00:42:43,936 --> 00:42:44,853
Yeah, yeah.

951
00:42:44,853 --> 00:42:47,398
But I really, I like the music.

952
00:42:47,398 --> 00:42:48,607
Was fantastic.

953
00:42:48,607 --> 00:42:51,569
Fantastic music,
fantastic cinematography. Was,

954
00:42:52,861 --> 00:42:55,531
you know,
I mean, if it went cinematography,

955
00:42:55,531 --> 00:43:00,327
it would just break a barrier for,
you know, the cinematographer is,

956
00:43:03,455 --> 00:43:04,582
is a woman,

957
00:43:04,582 --> 00:43:08,502
and every no woman has ever won
that category before, so it.

958
00:43:08,544 --> 00:43:10,087
Yeah. It's great.

959
00:43:10,087 --> 00:43:10,921
Yeah.

960
00:43:10,921 --> 00:43:13,924
But I loved how,

961
00:43:14,675 --> 00:43:16,343
you know, and obviously
I think that's a great thing,

962
00:43:16,343 --> 00:43:19,555
but and, you know, regardless,
I thought that the way that it,

963
00:43:20,347 --> 00:43:23,475
you know, framing got taller
and then shorter,

964
00:43:24,643 --> 00:43:25,728
was really.

965
00:43:25,728 --> 00:43:26,895
Yeah, was really good.

966
00:43:26,895 --> 00:43:29,898
And specifically the scene where,

967
00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:32,151
he's,

968
00:43:32,151 --> 00:43:35,154
singing that song,

969
00:43:35,487 --> 00:43:37,740
you know,

970
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:39,450
that about,

971
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:42,453
he Barry dedicates to his father,

972
00:43:43,245 --> 00:43:46,332
and you know, I mean, he thinks so.

973
00:43:46,332 --> 00:43:50,878
Well, that you, you see, like,
kind of all the different genres of music

974
00:43:50,878 --> 00:43:55,841
over time and how that was
just such a great scene, like, if that.

975
00:43:56,425 --> 00:43:57,885
I mean, that was really it.

976
00:43:57,885 --> 00:43:59,303
I know could have been a musical.

977
00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:00,888
That part, the part where they,

978
00:44:00,888 --> 00:44:05,142
they show turntables of a DJ,
they show African dancing.

979
00:44:05,142 --> 00:44:07,770
It was just amazing mix. And I loved it.

980
00:44:07,770 --> 00:44:09,063
Yeah, that was so cool.

981
00:44:09,063 --> 00:44:12,066
I didn't know it was a vampire movie.

982
00:44:12,107 --> 00:44:16,236
I know, like, you got 20 minutes,
but I'm like, no, you got all of that.

983
00:44:16,236 --> 00:44:19,740
And it's like,
it feels like a regular drama.

984
00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:22,117
And then you throw that in there.

985
00:44:22,117 --> 00:44:24,203
I just thought that was like
daughter was laughing.

986
00:44:24,203 --> 00:44:25,954
She goes, how did you not know?

987
00:44:25,954 --> 00:44:28,957
I just didn't watch the news or was
I was an up.

988
00:44:28,957 --> 00:44:30,876
I yeah, I yeah.

989
00:44:30,876 --> 00:44:34,838
So the Irish guy run to the house and
I'm like wait a second, what's going on?

990
00:44:34,838 --> 00:44:35,756
Here?

991
00:44:35,756 --> 00:44:37,549
She goes. You didn't know.

992
00:44:37,549 --> 00:44:39,385
Oh that's. Fine. Twins. How'd it feel?

993
00:44:39,385 --> 00:44:40,636
Which one are you. Smoke.

994
00:44:40,636 --> 00:44:42,721
Are you stack.
Are you stack. Are you smoke.

995
00:44:42,721 --> 00:44:43,681
I mean, I'm,

996
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:48,602
I feel like

997
00:44:48,602 --> 00:44:52,523
smoke was probably more rougher
and more like.

998
00:44:52,773 --> 00:44:55,776
He said, color wise,
he wore red because he's aggressive.

999
00:44:55,818 --> 00:44:56,944
The other guy wore blue.

1000
00:44:56,944 --> 00:44:57,736
He was more chill.

1001
00:44:57,736 --> 00:45:01,365
No, no, actually,
the stock was the one who wore red.

1002
00:45:01,365 --> 00:45:03,659
And he was more,

1003
00:45:03,659 --> 00:45:06,120
I think that he was.

1004
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,453
Yeah.

1005
00:45:06,453 --> 00:45:10,833
No, I think that, smoke was the one
who, was more,

1006
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,252
he was the more aggressive one.

1007
00:45:13,252 --> 00:45:15,003
I mean, okay, yeah.

1008
00:45:15,003 --> 00:45:17,589
And so I'm. Yeah.

1009
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:19,717
Yeah.

1010
00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:20,050
Yeah.

1011
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:22,469
But I mean, yeah, they they did.

1012
00:45:22,469 --> 00:45:24,430
Yeah, they both did very well.

1013
00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:26,557
No, it's the same actor.

1014
00:45:26,557 --> 00:45:27,808
Yeah. I. Be.

1015
00:45:27,808 --> 00:45:28,267
Yeah.

1016
00:45:28,267 --> 00:45:31,019
Yeah, yeah. He he was so proud
he got nominated.

1017
00:45:31,019 --> 00:45:33,981
I'm really happy. He's so. Good.
I liked his wife, too.

1018
00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:35,733
She was really good as well.

1019
00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:38,068
And the movie. Yeah. Yeah.

1020
00:45:38,068 --> 00:45:41,405
The one that gave him the bag
to to help him survive.

1021
00:45:41,405 --> 00:45:41,905
That wife.

1022
00:45:43,198 --> 00:45:44,324
Yeah, though.

1023
00:45:44,324 --> 00:45:45,117
Yeah. Though.

1024
00:45:45,117 --> 00:45:45,993
Mary wasn't the wife.

1025
00:45:45,993 --> 00:45:46,744
Okay. You're right.

1026
00:45:46,744 --> 00:45:49,121
Yeah. No, though. Yeah, though.

1027
00:45:49,121 --> 00:45:51,123
Yeah. The one he was separated from.

1028
00:45:51,123 --> 00:45:52,082
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1029
00:45:52,082 --> 00:45:52,249
It was a.

1030
00:45:52,249 --> 00:45:56,253
Good storyline too, because they
quickly mention that they lost a child.

1031
00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:56,754
Yeah.

1032
00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:59,673
And then she's holding him at the end
I thought was great.

1033
00:45:59,673 --> 00:46:02,885
Part of me I was like as soon as it went
vampire movie

1034
00:46:02,885 --> 00:46:05,971
I'm like, oh here we go,
supernatural blah blah blah.

1035
00:46:05,971 --> 00:46:07,389
I'm not a big vampire guy.

1036
00:46:07,389 --> 00:46:09,516
Yeah, no, I got. A fantastic movie.

1037
00:46:09,516 --> 00:46:11,059
And then

1038
00:46:11,059 --> 00:46:13,061
didn't like it. Complained a little bit.

1039
00:46:13,061 --> 00:46:17,441
But that ending credits scenes
when they go to 1992 to piggyback on that

1040
00:46:17,733 --> 00:46:21,570
amazing tied it in, made me think
this is the greatest movie of all time

1041
00:46:22,070 --> 00:46:24,364
because it's a. Great rewatchable movie.

1042
00:46:24,364 --> 00:46:26,700
Some of these are better
the second time. Yeah.

1043
00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:27,117
You know.

1044
00:46:27,117 --> 00:46:31,413
Stack or one of them, Stack or Smoke
made him promise not to mess with Sammy.

1045
00:46:31,413 --> 00:46:32,372
Yes. Yeah.

1046
00:46:32,372 --> 00:46:35,167
And they they visit him
and they let him know. Hey.

1047
00:46:35,167 --> 00:46:37,252
My leaving you my location.

1048
00:46:37,252 --> 00:46:39,671
Who was Sammy?
This was his first role ever.

1049
00:46:39,671 --> 00:46:42,674
He never did any acting before deaths.

1050
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,552
And also, I thought it was interesting

1051
00:46:45,552 --> 00:46:49,264
that they kind of spoil it
because they show him.

1052
00:46:49,264 --> 00:46:52,434
Come back to the church
smoking with the scratch.

1053
00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:54,728
You're like, stood it.

1054
00:46:54,728 --> 00:46:56,104
No, it was a vampire movie.

1055
00:46:56,104 --> 00:46:58,065
But then he goes the day before.

1056
00:46:58,065 --> 00:47:00,609
So you're like, now
you know, where we end.

1057
00:47:00,609 --> 00:47:01,777
A lot of movies do that, right?

1058
00:47:01,777 --> 00:47:05,405
They'll give you the end
and then we'll get you back to the end

1059
00:47:05,405 --> 00:47:08,075
and show you how and why.
We'll just show you parts of that.

1060
00:47:08,075 --> 00:47:11,078
And but they don't give you the context
of what happens.

1061
00:47:11,161 --> 00:47:12,871
They'll show you what's something.

1062
00:47:12,871 --> 00:47:15,123
They'll show you something
that's about to happen.

1063
00:47:15,123 --> 00:47:17,376
They don't show you exactly what happens.

1064
00:47:17,376 --> 00:47:20,254
And there was like a Wakanda Forever
tie in.

1065
00:47:20,254 --> 00:47:22,256
Did you see that at the church?

1066
00:47:22,256 --> 00:47:23,340
I don't think so.

1067
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:25,467
I heard that, and then the day.

1068
00:47:26,552 --> 00:47:28,387
So in 1992, they go to

1069
00:47:28,387 --> 00:47:32,683
October 16th, 1992,
and that day has relevance.

1070
00:47:32,683 --> 00:47:35,727
You know, that's when Candyman came out.

1071
00:47:35,727 --> 00:47:38,522
Candyman was a horror movie.

1072
00:47:38,522 --> 00:47:40,274
Yeah. For an American. Right.

1073
00:47:40,274 --> 00:47:42,234
So they they they did a callback.

1074
00:47:42,234 --> 00:47:43,986
It took place in Chicago.

1075
00:47:43,986 --> 00:47:46,864
So in honor of Candyman,
they had them come to life.

1076
00:47:46,864 --> 00:47:47,197
Yeah.

1077
00:47:47,197 --> 00:47:50,701
On October 16th, 1992,
which was pretty cool.

1078
00:47:50,701 --> 00:47:54,580
And the ring he was wearing
can also be seen and do the right thing.

1079
00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:55,289
Oh yeah. Yeah.

1080
00:47:55,289 --> 00:47:58,292
Radio Raheem had those rats, right? Yep.

1081
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:01,503
So, the stores were segregated.

1082
00:48:01,545 --> 00:48:03,755
You know how the Chinese couple had
two stores?

1083
00:48:03,755 --> 00:48:06,466
Yes. Yeah,
they had a black store and a white store.

1084
00:48:06,466 --> 00:48:07,050
Right.

1085
00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:10,137
Watching the movie,
I didn't catch that part, but after.

1086
00:48:10,178 --> 00:48:12,431
Yeah,
because cast out Jim Crow. John. Yep.

1087
00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:16,143
The guy, the

1088
00:48:16,143 --> 00:48:19,187
the musician at the end
was a real jazz musician.

1089
00:48:22,024 --> 00:48:25,027
No, it was just a great movie. And,

1090
00:48:25,193 --> 00:48:27,821
again, interesting kept me.

1091
00:48:27,821 --> 00:48:30,157
I was I know, yeah, because I yeah.

1092
00:48:30,157 --> 00:48:33,911
Because what I loved was that
because again, I knew the vampire element

1093
00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:37,581
going in,
so I wasn't expecting it to be that,

1094
00:48:38,248 --> 00:48:42,502
crafted and layered and nuanced as it was,
I thought it was just going to be like

1095
00:48:42,502 --> 00:48:45,756
a regular,
you know, kind of supernatural movie.

1096
00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:50,052
And, it had all this weight to it
that was just.

1097
00:48:50,469 --> 00:48:52,471
Yeah, I was, I was I was very impressed.

1098
00:48:52,471 --> 00:48:55,474
And it was and I like that.

1099
00:48:56,433 --> 00:48:59,645
I mean, it wasn't, a it's not like a,

1100
00:49:00,479 --> 00:49:03,774
I mean, it's a mainstream movie,
like, it's not an independent film. No.

1101
00:49:05,317 --> 00:49:08,320
But I think that for a,

1102
00:49:09,696 --> 00:49:11,406
I like that the Warner

1103
00:49:11,406 --> 00:49:15,994
Brothers decided to pick it up and,
you know, instead of, like,

1104
00:49:15,994 --> 00:49:19,998
doing all this, I'm could for I like,

1105
00:49:19,998 --> 00:49:23,460
constant sequel stuff, like, like,

1106
00:49:23,585 --> 00:49:27,172
I mean, they took on an original project,
and I, I like I loved it.

1107
00:49:27,172 --> 00:49:30,175
So, let's score out of ten.

1108
00:49:31,259 --> 00:49:33,971
Oh, I would,

1109
00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:35,764
I mean,

1110
00:49:35,764 --> 00:49:37,808
it's, I mean, I'd probably give it a ten.

1111
00:49:37,808 --> 00:49:39,726
I thought it was just.

1112
00:49:39,726 --> 00:49:41,645
Wow. Yeah.

1113
00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:44,106
Max. Shame.

1114
00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:45,232
And then one last thing.

1115
00:49:45,232 --> 00:49:47,693
Why? You know, I'm Irish.

1116
00:49:47,693 --> 00:49:48,568
Why the vampire?

1117
00:49:48,568 --> 00:49:50,862
You know why the vampire have to be Irish?

1118
00:49:50,862 --> 00:49:52,114
Why not?

1119
00:49:52,114 --> 00:49:52,698
Well, they.

1120
00:49:52,698 --> 00:49:55,075
I mean, well, anyone,
I guess, could be a vampire.

1121
00:49:55,075 --> 00:49:58,078
I really like, I was thinking the other.

1122
00:49:58,078 --> 00:50:00,539
I was actually telling
Max the other day that, like,

1123
00:50:02,916 --> 00:50:04,126
because he mentioned that too.

1124
00:50:04,126 --> 00:50:07,546
He was like, you know, Oh, yeah.

1125
00:50:07,546 --> 00:50:11,258
He was, an Irish vampire. And,

1126
00:50:12,592 --> 00:50:15,512
you know,
I didn't make any thing out of it,

1127
00:50:15,512 --> 00:50:19,266
but I was it made me think for a moment
that if they had put

1128
00:50:19,266 --> 00:50:22,269
in, that,

1129
00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:25,647
you know, I mean, there's
so many cultures within the movie.

1130
00:50:25,647 --> 00:50:26,940
Yeah, yeah. Which.

1131
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:30,235
Yeah, but I was like,
I thought to myself, they didn't have,

1132
00:50:30,777 --> 00:50:33,363
I noticed that
they didn't have a Jewish vampire,

1133
00:50:33,363 --> 00:50:34,948
but I thought to myself, if they did,

1134
00:50:34,948 --> 00:50:38,118
then that probably would have gotten
a lot of controversy because there's like

1135
00:50:38,118 --> 00:50:41,246
an anti-Semitic, date.

1136
00:50:42,122 --> 00:50:43,623
Like it's ridic.

1137
00:50:43,623 --> 00:50:44,791
Obviously it's ridiculous.

1138
00:50:44,791 --> 00:50:47,794
But, there are,

1139
00:50:48,837 --> 00:50:52,049
like online,
like just anti-Semitic trolls,

1140
00:50:52,799 --> 00:50:56,219
saying things like,
Jews used to drink the blood of children.

1141
00:50:56,219 --> 00:50:58,555
So frickin stupid and ridiculous.

1142
00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:02,517
But, that was, I was like, yeah, that's
probably why I didn't put that in there.

1143
00:51:02,517 --> 00:51:04,978
But I was probably like,
yeah, I mean, you know,

1144
00:51:04,978 --> 00:51:07,689
maybe they could have throw that in there,
you know, makes sense. Yeah.

1145
00:51:09,316 --> 00:51:09,524
Yeah.

1146
00:51:09,524 --> 00:51:10,901
Yeah, yeah.

1147
00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:13,111
All right. We got to move
on. We're gonna wrap it up.

1148
00:51:13,111 --> 00:51:14,571
Let's get to next to.

1149
00:51:14,571 --> 00:51:17,574
Yeah. Can I do train dreams? Yeah.

1150
00:51:17,866 --> 00:51:19,910
That was actually
my favorite movie of the year.

1151
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:21,244
Oh, that was your number one.

1152
00:51:21,244 --> 00:51:22,954
Yeah. Train dreams.

1153
00:51:22,954 --> 00:51:25,415
Yeah. Number one.

1154
00:51:25,415 --> 00:51:27,209
Yeah. It was just.

1155
00:51:27,209 --> 00:51:30,212
Let's hear why this is interesting.

1156
00:51:30,295 --> 00:51:33,298
Because it really,

1157
00:51:34,508 --> 00:51:36,968
I just thought
that it was a beautiful movie,

1158
00:51:36,968 --> 00:51:39,930
obviously visually striking, but just the,

1159
00:51:41,723 --> 00:51:43,767
I mean, simply put,

1160
00:51:43,767 --> 00:51:49,397
it just had the layers of an entire life.

1161
00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:54,069
And, you know,

1162
00:51:55,779 --> 00:51:58,198
main Robert Crane er,

1163
00:51:58,198 --> 00:52:01,201
just I think reflects,

1164
00:52:03,328 --> 00:52:05,288
every,

1165
00:52:05,288 --> 00:52:09,501
you know, man who was like,
who gave us our infrastructure,

1166
00:52:09,501 --> 00:52:12,504
our way of life, and had to watch a,

1167
00:52:14,548 --> 00:52:17,676
you know, the world around him
change for out the decades.

1168
00:52:17,676 --> 00:52:20,387
But he stayed in
the same place forever. And,

1169
00:52:21,513 --> 00:52:23,890
you know,
he never really complains about it.

1170
00:52:23,890 --> 00:52:27,060
I honestly, I keep went through deep pain,

1171
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:30,272
but also just loved deeply.

1172
00:52:30,272 --> 00:52:33,024
And every interaction felt very special.

1173
00:52:33,024 --> 00:52:35,694
Specifically in the beginning
when that guy was dying

1174
00:52:35,694 --> 00:52:38,196
and he gave him, like,
a final drink of water out of a boot,

1175
00:52:38,196 --> 00:52:41,908
I was like,
oh my God, that's working deep, man.

1176
00:52:42,993 --> 00:52:44,995
It felt very much like a,

1177
00:52:44,995 --> 00:52:49,082
I mean, it's based off of a novella
by Dennis Johnson, who was very great,

1178
00:52:49,082 --> 00:52:52,669
but, it had but yeah,
I mean, it had the feeling of a,

1179
00:52:55,213 --> 00:52:56,756
of like a all time

1180
00:52:56,756 --> 00:53:01,178
great American novel, and it's just like,
it's such a it's such a great story.

1181
00:53:01,303 --> 00:53:04,306
And, yeah, I was,

1182
00:53:05,557 --> 00:53:07,684
Yeah, it really, it was just.

1183
00:53:07,684 --> 00:53:09,311
Yeah, I loved it.

1184
00:53:09,311 --> 00:53:13,231
I agree you had something really wonderful
on text that you shared, but I

1185
00:53:14,399 --> 00:53:15,692
very you just touched on it.

1186
00:53:15,692 --> 00:53:17,235
But I was joking with you.

1187
00:53:17,235 --> 00:53:20,989
And I go, man, I was waiting for someone
to turn into a vampire.

1188
00:53:20,989 --> 00:53:22,824
It's not. You know, I understand.

1189
00:53:22,824 --> 00:53:24,451
It's not like that kind of movie.

1190
00:53:24,451 --> 00:53:28,371
I mean, most of the time
I'm into, dramas and human

1191
00:53:28,371 --> 00:53:31,958
centered stories that aren't like that
don't have that kind of stuff.

1192
00:53:31,958 --> 00:53:35,670
And occasionally
I'll be able to make exceptions.

1193
00:53:36,963 --> 00:53:39,758
I think that,

1194
00:53:39,758 --> 00:53:40,133
Yeah.

1195
00:53:40,133 --> 00:53:44,679
But I mean, I thought, yeah,
I yeah, it's I'm not expecting it to,

1196
00:53:45,513 --> 00:53:47,849
win anything that it's nominated for.

1197
00:53:47,849 --> 00:53:52,354
But, the only thing it would have a chance
of winning is cinematography.

1198
00:53:52,354 --> 00:53:54,022
But I do think since this going
to get that.

1199
00:53:54,022 --> 00:53:56,858
Rightfully so.
Yeah. With the trees and the landscape.

1200
00:53:56,858 --> 00:53:57,776
Yeah. It may.

1201
00:53:57,776 --> 00:54:01,446
I thought about my, late grandfather
watching it because he was such,

1202
00:54:02,989 --> 00:54:05,325
he was such a,

1203
00:54:05,325 --> 00:54:07,202
phenomenal photographer of nature.

1204
00:54:07,202 --> 00:54:09,246
But he also
he would have loved that movie.

1205
00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:12,249
Yeah, but he also,

1206
00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:15,252
when he took pictures of people, he would,

1207
00:54:16,294 --> 00:54:19,297
he would talk with them first and say,
can I take your picture?

1208
00:54:19,297 --> 00:54:21,549
And I just felt like he and,

1209
00:54:21,549 --> 00:54:23,843
that character would have hit it off
really well.

1210
00:54:23,843 --> 00:54:23,969
Yeah.

1211
00:54:23,969 --> 00:54:27,180
You mentioned it
reminded you of a Terrence Malick film.

1212
00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:30,100
Yeah, yeah, if you can. You have. Yeah.
I don't know who he is.

1213
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,270
The director.
He directed, death of Heaven,

1214
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:36,439
the Tree of Life,
the thin Red line, Knight of Cups?

1215
00:54:37,023 --> 00:54:37,565
Yeah.

1216
00:54:37,565 --> 00:54:43,113
His movies have a very ethereal and,
spiritual, element to them.

1217
00:54:43,446 --> 00:54:48,451
He likes nature, both physically
physical nature and human nature.

1218
00:54:48,702 --> 00:54:51,121
And that's kind of what,

1219
00:54:51,121 --> 00:54:53,999
I feel like this movie reflected
that a lot, and there were a lot of people

1220
00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:54,666
that were like,

1221
00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:58,336
you know,
this is like a rip off of his movie.

1222
00:54:58,336 --> 00:55:00,297
If I thought, I don't think so.

1223
00:55:00,297 --> 00:55:02,674
I think it's its own thing. But, yeah.

1224
00:55:02,674 --> 00:55:03,383
Poor guy.

1225
00:55:03,383 --> 00:55:05,844
I feel like everyone around him
died, though.

1226
00:55:05,844 --> 00:55:08,221
It was so like, he's been through it all.

1227
00:55:08,221 --> 00:55:09,180
The poor guy can't.

1228
00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:10,640
I know, I know, yeah.

1229
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,183
And then there were just.

1230
00:55:12,183 --> 00:55:13,018
And the.

1231
00:55:13,018 --> 00:55:16,021
Airplane ride. And then the movie ends.

1232
00:55:16,104 --> 00:55:17,647
I mean, is there significance there?

1233
00:55:17,647 --> 00:55:20,650
Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that that was,

1234
00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:22,902
I mean, it's,

1235
00:55:22,902 --> 00:55:25,905
I mean, I would imagine I mean, he

1236
00:55:26,531 --> 00:55:29,659
that was probably the moment where he felt
the most,

1237
00:55:30,785 --> 00:55:32,787
I don't know, high on life,
I guess is free.

1238
00:55:32,787 --> 00:55:34,956
Yeah. Like, connected to everything.

1239
00:55:34,956 --> 00:55:36,499
Yeah. Yeah. Like.

1240
00:55:36,499 --> 00:55:37,167
Yeah.

1241
00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:39,210
He's probably been having so much burden,

1242
00:55:39,210 --> 00:55:42,756
stress and pain
where he's flying for the first time.

1243
00:55:42,797 --> 00:55:44,758
Yeah. Yeah, this is living.

1244
00:55:44,758 --> 00:55:46,343
That's what I took.

1245
00:55:46,343 --> 00:55:47,802
But it was small, poetic.

1246
00:55:47,802 --> 00:55:49,054
It was like a little life.

1247
00:55:50,638 --> 00:55:51,473
The setting

1248
00:55:51,473 --> 00:55:54,476
was played
a major part of the whole movie.

1249
00:55:54,476 --> 00:55:55,101
The setting.

1250
00:55:55,101 --> 00:55:58,104
Like, again, the trees. Yeah.

1251
00:55:58,688 --> 00:56:00,440
A time period, the change.

1252
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,317
Like, all the hard work, they.

1253
00:56:02,317 --> 00:56:03,318
That's when men were men.

1254
00:56:03,318 --> 00:56:05,737
They say that like,
I, I'm a third grade teacher.

1255
00:56:05,737 --> 00:56:07,405
These hands, you know, I get blisters.

1256
00:56:07,405 --> 00:56:08,365
Sharpening pencils.

1257
00:56:08,365 --> 00:56:08,782
Yeah.

1258
00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:12,577
Those guys were carrying
axes, cutting down massive trees,

1259
00:56:12,952 --> 00:56:16,706
working hard day and night,
leaving his family for long periods.

1260
00:56:16,706 --> 00:56:17,999
Of time, which was really hard.

1261
00:56:17,999 --> 00:56:21,002
And I think that there were like,
moments in the movie that were just,

1262
00:56:22,462 --> 00:56:25,173
one in particular where, he,

1263
00:56:25,173 --> 00:56:28,176
it's just trying to make his daughter
laugh by putting his,

1264
00:56:28,802 --> 00:56:32,013
hands over the council,
and he's doing this and smiling

1265
00:56:32,013 --> 00:56:34,015
because he's just trying to make her laugh
because he doesn't

1266
00:56:34,015 --> 00:56:36,226
hardly ever sees her, so.

1267
00:56:36,226 --> 00:56:38,770
Oh, yeah. His interactions. Yeah.

1268
00:56:38,770 --> 00:56:40,355
She was very physically,

1269
00:56:41,689 --> 00:56:42,565
capable to.

1270
00:56:42,565 --> 00:56:46,528
I mean, just the work that she did
in building that house and.

1271
00:56:46,528 --> 00:56:49,697
Oh, yeah, I know she had, they
they both had a very,

1272
00:56:51,741 --> 00:56:52,075
Yeah.

1273
00:56:52,075 --> 00:56:54,828
They both. Yeah,
they were lining up the stones,

1274
00:56:54,828 --> 00:56:56,329
envisioning
what it was going to look like.

1275
00:56:56,329 --> 00:56:58,915
Like they both, yeah, they were.

1276
00:56:58,915 --> 00:57:00,458
They reminded me of a Gray's Anatomy.

1277
00:57:00,458 --> 00:57:03,420
They did candles
when they built their house.

1278
00:57:03,545 --> 00:57:06,297
And she's like,
I want the house here next to, you know.

1279
00:57:06,297 --> 00:57:08,425
Your house is here.
Yeah. Beautiful log cabin.

1280
00:57:08,425 --> 00:57:09,300
Yeah, yeah.

1281
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:14,264
Was that his daughter that snuck in with
the broken leg, or is it a random person?

1282
00:57:14,556 --> 00:57:15,974
I think how did she come in and out?

1283
00:57:15,974 --> 00:57:17,267
I was like, I. Don't even know.

1284
00:57:17,267 --> 00:57:19,144
I don't even know if that happened.

1285
00:57:19,144 --> 00:57:20,353
I don't think. Was that a dream?

1286
00:57:20,353 --> 00:57:22,814
That may have been a dream. Yeah,
but it would.

1287
00:57:22,814 --> 00:57:25,567
It would have been her that was supposed
to be an invasion of her.

1288
00:57:25,567 --> 00:57:27,944
Yeah, but, But then she had a broken leg.

1289
00:57:27,944 --> 00:57:29,320
So how did she sneak out of the window?

1290
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,990
I was like, I had a lot going on.
I don't think she was really there.

1291
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:32,699
But he saw the moon.

1292
00:57:32,699 --> 00:57:37,620
Then he saw the moon landing on TV
in the city before he took the plane ride.

1293
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:41,166
So he lived a long life, 80 years.

1294
00:57:41,583 --> 00:57:44,794
He saw a lot of friends pass.

1295
00:57:45,253 --> 00:57:47,881
He saw a man get killed in front of them.

1296
00:57:47,881 --> 00:57:48,506
He saw.

1297
00:57:49,883 --> 00:57:51,593
Did the tree log hit fall on him?

1298
00:57:51,593 --> 00:57:53,553
No, it fell on his buddy,
his bike. His best.

1299
00:57:53,553 --> 00:57:56,222
Friend. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he. Yeah.

1300
00:57:56,222 --> 00:57:59,392
I also loved that moment
when the when the tree falls.

1301
00:57:59,392 --> 00:58:02,103
You see it
from the perspective of the tree in a way.

1302
00:58:02,103 --> 00:58:05,315
How when the tree, like, just falls.

1303
00:58:05,315 --> 00:58:05,815
Really?

1304
00:58:05,815 --> 00:58:09,736
Like slowly and you kind of hear
that noise, it makes us it falling.

1305
00:58:09,861 --> 00:58:10,111
Yeah.

1306
00:58:10,111 --> 00:58:15,200
Like where the opening shot of that scene
where it's like towards the top

1307
00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:19,078
when the tree falls,
the camera doesn't leave that spot.

1308
00:58:19,287 --> 00:58:23,249
And so it's like the you're sort of
with the tree as it's falling.

1309
00:58:23,875 --> 00:58:26,169
All right. I like that perspective.

1310
00:58:26,169 --> 00:58:28,296
Any more.
We gotta move on to Frankenstein.

1311
00:58:28,296 --> 00:58:30,089
That's him.

1312
00:58:30,089 --> 00:58:32,175
I the thing about Claremont del Toro.

1313
00:58:32,175 --> 00:58:33,092
And I thought this,

1314
00:58:34,928 --> 00:58:37,305
even back,

1315
00:58:37,305 --> 00:58:41,100
ten years ago with Crimson Peak
is that he is a world builder.

1316
00:58:41,351 --> 00:58:43,228
He creates worlds.

1317
00:58:43,228 --> 00:58:46,231
And, he.

1318
00:58:46,397 --> 00:58:47,732
Yes, he has.

1319
00:58:47,732 --> 00:58:50,276
He's a master at visualizing things.

1320
00:58:50,276 --> 00:58:52,987
He's a visionary. But,

1321
00:58:52,987 --> 00:58:55,698
I think that

1322
00:58:55,698 --> 00:58:58,701
there is something very,

1323
00:59:00,286 --> 00:59:01,371
There's some he.

1324
00:59:01,371 --> 00:59:04,374
I don't think he's ever explicitly

1325
00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:07,585
says that he's not going to do, like,
modern films

1326
00:59:07,585 --> 00:59:08,878
that take place in a modern time.

1327
00:59:08,878 --> 00:59:12,674
I think he has maybe done a few of those,
maybe a couple.

1328
00:59:12,674 --> 00:59:13,841
I don't think so.

1329
00:59:13,841 --> 00:59:17,178
But I think there are some filmmakers
like him who are more comfortable

1330
00:59:17,178 --> 00:59:21,975
with that past era stuff,
because the person is just it's so scary

1331
00:59:22,267 --> 00:59:25,270
and not like the way that they're able to,

1332
00:59:26,312 --> 00:59:29,607
you know, he made a good point to that,
storytelling.

1333
00:59:29,899 --> 00:59:31,943
The origin of storytelling was,

1334
00:59:33,570 --> 00:59:34,445
was fairy

1335
00:59:34,445 --> 00:59:37,448
tales, and not it was the kind where,

1336
00:59:37,824 --> 00:59:41,035
and this is something that I actually
think weapons has in common as well.

1337
00:59:41,327 --> 00:59:46,624
Not it's it's
not like a once upon a time fairy tale.

1338
00:59:46,624 --> 00:59:50,670
It's more the kind of fairy tale
that parents would tell their kids

1339
00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:54,549
so that they don't,
you know, do certain things.

1340
00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:59,345
It's like fairy tales were sort of used
originally to instill fear.

1341
00:59:59,846 --> 01:00:03,725
And I think, culturally
that changed at some point.

1342
01:00:03,725 --> 01:00:07,729
But, no, I think most films in particular,

1343
01:00:08,062 --> 01:00:11,357
what sets them apart
because there are a lot of filmmakers

1344
01:00:11,357 --> 01:00:15,194
who have like a sort of fairy tale element
to the way they make movies.

1345
01:00:15,194 --> 01:00:17,322
I think even centers have thought
in a way.

1346
01:00:17,322 --> 01:00:20,575
But, I think with Karamo specifically,

1347
01:00:21,034 --> 01:00:24,579
his films
make you question who the real monster is.

1348
01:00:25,204 --> 01:00:26,289
Yeah.

1349
01:00:26,289 --> 01:00:28,958
That's what makes that's
what makes this film.

1350
01:00:28,958 --> 01:00:32,337
So, I was empathizing with the monster.

1351
01:00:32,503 --> 01:00:32,879
Yeah.

1352
01:00:32,879 --> 01:00:35,882
And I think the. Doctor was the villain.

1353
01:00:36,215 --> 01:00:37,884
Yeah, I think that was his goal.

1354
01:00:37,884 --> 01:00:40,803
I think that The Shape of Water was,
which I loved.

1355
01:00:40,803 --> 01:00:44,515
I was obsessed with that movie
when it came out so many times.

1356
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,018
Kilmer.

1357
01:00:47,018 --> 01:00:48,061
Karamo del Toro.

1358
01:00:48,061 --> 01:00:48,936
Name all his movies.

1359
01:00:48,936 --> 01:00:52,774
A couple of them with Crimson Peak,
The Shape of Water, Nightmare Alley,

1360
01:00:53,024 --> 01:00:54,275
and that's.

1361
01:00:54,275 --> 01:00:56,986
That's all I own. Pan slapper. Enough.

1362
01:00:56,986 --> 01:01:00,031
Okay, so this is like his fifth film
that I've seen, but,

1363
01:01:02,492 --> 01:01:04,702
Did you read the book Frankenstein?

1364
01:01:04,702 --> 01:01:07,288
No, I didn't, but I know a lot about.

1365
01:01:07,288 --> 01:01:09,999
You know, any of the movie
book comparisons.

1366
01:01:09,999 --> 01:01:13,419
Yes, I know some,
I know a lot about Mary Shelley.

1367
01:01:13,419 --> 01:01:16,422
I think she was a very interesting person,
it seems.

1368
01:01:16,589 --> 01:01:21,094
And I think that, actually,
I think that the story of Frankenstein

1369
01:01:21,094 --> 01:01:25,473
as a whole is really in the past
couple of years

1370
01:01:25,473 --> 01:01:31,145
has had this real resurgence
that I find very interesting.

1371
01:01:31,145 --> 01:01:34,148
I think it really started with,

1372
01:01:35,983 --> 01:01:38,986
poor things, with Emma Stone.

1373
01:01:39,153 --> 01:01:44,283
You know, it's not like directly inspired
from Frankenstein, but it has those,

1374
01:01:45,243 --> 01:01:48,454
similar themes and plot sort of devices.

1375
01:01:48,830 --> 01:01:49,831
And then, of course, you have

1376
01:01:49,831 --> 01:01:53,584
this was a real passion project for Gamow
making this Frankenstein.

1377
01:01:53,584 --> 01:01:54,711
So he did that.

1378
01:01:54,711 --> 01:01:59,382
And then we have Maggie Gyllenhaal,
Star bride coming out on, March

1379
01:01:59,382 --> 01:02:03,302
6th, which is,
you know, to Bride of Frankenstein.

1380
01:02:03,302 --> 01:02:05,847
So you can
that's all he wanted was a partner.

1381
01:02:05,847 --> 01:02:07,640
He was super lonely. Yeah.

1382
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,308
And all he wanted was something else. So.

1383
01:02:09,308 --> 01:02:11,227
And it's Jessie Buckley and Kristen Bell.

1384
01:02:11,227 --> 01:02:16,774
So the doctor refused to make him
so in the in the book, he gets caught

1385
01:02:18,067 --> 01:02:18,443
memory.

1386
01:02:18,443 --> 01:02:21,279
He helps the blind neighbor.

1387
01:02:21,279 --> 01:02:21,904
Yeah.

1388
01:02:21,904 --> 01:02:23,281
I know there was a blind neighbor.

1389
01:02:23,281 --> 01:02:25,116
I don't I didn't read the book, but.

1390
01:02:25,116 --> 01:02:28,911
So the book he's helping a girl
drowns and Frankenstein

1391
01:02:28,911 --> 01:02:32,248
goes to help the girl and everyone thinks,
oh, he's hurting the girl.

1392
01:02:32,373 --> 01:02:35,168
So that's when they shoot him.
Where in the. In the movie.

1393
01:02:35,168 --> 01:02:36,461
He's helping the blind guy.

1394
01:02:36,461 --> 01:02:38,671
Yeah. And everyone's like,
oh, he's hurting the blind guy.

1395
01:02:41,883 --> 01:02:44,051
He the,

1396
01:02:44,051 --> 01:02:47,138
the doctor shoots, accidentally shoots

1397
01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:50,433
his brother's soon-to-be wife

1398
01:02:51,017 --> 01:02:54,520
in the book, Frankenstein
actually chokes her out of rage.

1399
01:02:55,354 --> 01:02:56,105
Yeah, there's some.

1400
01:02:56,105 --> 01:02:58,399
Some changes comparing and contrasting.

1401
01:02:58,399 --> 01:03:01,194
It's always interesting
when the when it was a book first.

1402
01:03:01,194 --> 01:03:02,403
Very much. Didn't read it.

1403
01:03:02,403 --> 01:03:03,279
Especially my daughter.

1404
01:03:03,279 --> 01:03:04,238
Read it came out so.

1405
01:03:04,238 --> 01:03:07,450
Long and told me a bunch of,
she kept going.

1406
01:03:07,450 --> 01:03:10,411
It didn't happen in the book.
It didn't happen in the book.

1407
01:03:10,411 --> 01:03:11,370
You ever watch a movie with someone?

1408
01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:12,538
It's like it didn't happen in the book.

1409
01:03:12,538 --> 01:03:16,209
The books are, social media vultures.

1410
01:03:16,209 --> 01:03:19,420
You know, there are peop
there are certain audiences

1411
01:03:19,420 --> 01:03:23,674
that will go to movies solely for what
they're going to say about it afterwards.

1412
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:26,677
I can't do it.

1413
01:03:26,677 --> 01:03:28,596
And that Frankenstein took a beating.

1414
01:03:28,596 --> 01:03:32,016
He got stabbed, shot
and he just kept coming.

1415
01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:34,977
His physicality
was so incredible. Blown up.

1416
01:03:37,605 --> 01:03:38,856
Just such a good movie.

1417
01:03:38,856 --> 01:03:39,398
Good movie.

1418
01:03:39,398 --> 01:03:40,024
It really was.

1419
01:03:40,024 --> 01:03:41,192
It wasn't like the creature

1420
01:03:41,192 --> 01:03:45,154
with the thing in his head and the
the bolts in his neck and the green.

1421
01:03:45,154 --> 01:03:46,989
He was like a human person.

1422
01:03:46,989 --> 01:03:49,242
He really did look like a real person.

1423
01:03:49,242 --> 01:03:50,910
Very well done.

1424
01:03:50,910 --> 01:03:54,956
In the book, the doctor doesn't
lose his leg in the movie.

1425
01:03:54,956 --> 01:03:56,541
He does. There's like, a lot of.

1426
01:03:56,541 --> 01:03:59,585
Standing in front of the sun
because it was such a dark movie.

1427
01:03:59,585 --> 01:04:02,129
I mean, The Shape of Water
was dark, too, in a way.

1428
01:04:02,129 --> 01:04:04,382
But I think that
it was a very hopeful film.

1429
01:04:04,382 --> 01:04:06,133
I think that this was Frankenstein.

1430
01:04:06,133 --> 01:04:10,221
It was definitely more dark
in a traditional sense, but I'm I thought

1431
01:04:10,346 --> 01:04:14,225
the ending was hopeful, you know, standing
in front of the sun for the I think

1432
01:04:14,267 --> 01:04:17,228
what was probably the first time for him,
that was really beautiful.

1433
01:04:17,478 --> 01:04:19,021
It was a relief in a way.

1434
01:04:19,021 --> 01:04:22,024
He pushed over. The ending was great to.

1435
01:04:22,108 --> 01:04:24,277
Pushing that ship out of the ice. Yeah.

1436
01:04:24,277 --> 01:04:26,487
And then where were they heading off to?

1437
01:04:26,487 --> 01:04:28,531
They were going back home. Yeah.

1438
01:04:28,531 --> 01:04:30,283
They were on an adventure.
They were going to.

1439
01:04:30,283 --> 01:04:34,495
They want they were going to the Arctic
and they decided to go home as they were.

1440
01:04:34,495 --> 01:04:36,789
So meeting him. After meeting.
Hearing his story.

1441
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:39,375
Yeah. Yeah.
You caught that part. Yeah. Yeah.

1442
01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:42,545
You know,
I know that audiences, most audiences

1443
01:04:42,545 --> 01:04:44,130
don't when you give them the advice.

1444
01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:46,674
This is like the kind of movie
you have to see in theaters.

1445
01:04:46,674 --> 01:04:49,176
Most audiences
don't really have that luxury,

1446
01:04:49,176 --> 01:04:52,513
but you say it
just because it's like, for cinephiles,

1447
01:04:52,513 --> 01:04:56,225
it's like saying, excuse me
when or bless you when someone sneezes.

1448
01:04:56,225 --> 01:04:57,768
You know, it's just what you say.

1449
01:04:57,768 --> 01:05:02,189
Because a movie, there's such an urgency
to seeing it in a feature films

1450
01:05:02,189 --> 01:05:07,028
hit differently and movies,
regardless, are meant to be seen twice.

1451
01:05:07,194 --> 01:05:11,282
Why would you ever see something
if you're only going to see it once? You?

1452
01:05:12,158 --> 01:05:13,910
We got to quote you on that. I like that.

1453
01:05:15,912 --> 01:05:16,454
Why would

1454
01:05:16,454 --> 01:05:19,457
you ever see something
if you're only going to see it once?

1455
01:05:19,582 --> 01:05:22,418
I mean, you know, if a movie is bad,
obviously that's different.

1456
01:05:22,418 --> 01:05:25,379
But if you're if you're,

1457
01:05:25,504 --> 01:05:29,175
if something is worth your time,
you know, you aren't

1458
01:05:29,175 --> 01:05:33,304
you interested in what you might take away
from a second time?

1459
01:05:33,387 --> 01:05:33,804
Yeah.

1460
01:05:33,804 --> 01:05:36,807
And plus
you get to go with different people.

1461
01:05:37,016 --> 01:05:37,975
I do like the band.

1462
01:05:37,975 --> 01:05:40,937
It's called an audience for a reason. It's
not just.

1463
01:05:40,937 --> 01:05:43,773
It's never just you.
It's always bigger than you.

1464
01:05:43,773 --> 01:05:44,941
Even when you go alone.

1465
01:05:44,941 --> 01:05:46,901
It's bigger than you.

1466
01:05:46,901 --> 01:05:47,777
I love it.

1467
01:05:47,777 --> 01:05:48,486
What would you score?

1468
01:05:48,486 --> 01:05:51,447
Frankenstein?

1469
01:05:51,447 --> 01:05:54,825
I mean, I put a ton for all of them,
but they're very different movies,

1470
01:05:54,825 --> 01:05:56,953
and I judge them
in very different ways. But,

1471
01:05:59,038 --> 01:06:02,041
You. Know, I think,

1472
01:06:03,793 --> 01:06:05,795
I am exploring Frankenstein.

1473
01:06:05,795 --> 01:06:08,798
Yeah. I would give a

1474
01:06:09,090 --> 01:06:12,093
yeah, I'd give it, an eight as well.

1475
01:06:12,301 --> 01:06:15,429
And, and we didn't score train Dreams.

1476
01:06:15,763 --> 01:06:18,599
Oh ten
my best movie to year, in my opinion.

1477
01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:20,977
I know that's why I didn't really
I didn't really have to ask that.

1478
01:06:20,977 --> 01:06:23,270
I figured that
because it was the number one movie.

1479
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:25,022
Yeah. Also, there are movie.

1480
01:06:25,022 --> 01:06:28,859
I think there are movies where you see,

1481
01:06:29,527 --> 01:06:31,988
there are movies where you wear.

1482
01:06:31,988 --> 01:06:35,700
And I think a lot of the movies this year,
two, you watch them and you think,

1483
01:06:36,158 --> 01:06:39,578
you know, I'm really glad
that this person played that part.

1484
01:06:39,704 --> 01:06:43,082
But I could also really envision
this character, this actor

1485
01:06:43,082 --> 01:06:44,542
playing this character.

1486
01:06:44,542 --> 01:06:48,671
But with train Dreams, I truly don't think
anybody could have played that part.

1487
01:06:48,671 --> 01:06:51,173
But Jill Edgartown,
I don't. What are the movies?

1488
01:06:51,173 --> 01:06:53,968
Has he been in? Oh, he's been in so many,

1489
01:06:56,554 --> 01:07:00,182
Master Gardener, Red Sparrow, Boy Erased.

1490
01:07:03,394 --> 01:07:06,063
Bad sermons, great Gatsby. Yes.

1491
01:07:06,063 --> 01:07:07,898
Zero Dark 30.

1492
01:07:07,898 --> 01:07:10,901
I know that one.

1493
01:07:10,901 --> 01:07:12,028
Yeah.

1494
01:07:12,028 --> 01:07:13,487
He's he's he's done.

1495
01:07:13,487 --> 01:07:14,530
He's done so much.

1496
01:07:14,530 --> 01:07:17,533
He's one of Australia's biggest actors.

1497
01:07:18,117 --> 01:07:20,119
Well, I can't thank you enough.

1498
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:22,204
We're here with Max and Jake.

1499
01:07:22,204 --> 01:07:24,999
It was so good to talk movies with you.
Thank you.

1500
01:07:24,999 --> 01:07:28,002
We have Max here from movie
critic Dot today.

1501
01:07:28,377 --> 01:07:33,966
He also wrote a blog on Train
Dreams on December 21st, 2025.

1502
01:07:33,966 --> 01:07:34,884
Go back and check it out.

1503
01:07:34,884 --> 01:07:37,470
He wrote a nice three minute read on train
dreams.

1504
01:07:37,470 --> 01:07:40,473
Critics ticket movie critic Dot today.

1505
01:07:41,766 --> 01:07:44,393
Jake, you go back and see him.

1506
01:07:44,393 --> 01:07:45,728
Marty supreme.

1507
01:07:45,728 --> 01:07:47,772
Yes, he made that. Mike.

1508
01:07:47,772 --> 01:07:48,814
He made that movie.

1509
01:07:48,814 --> 01:07:49,231
Okay.

1510
01:07:49,231 --> 01:07:49,982
He's a know him.

1511
01:07:49,982 --> 01:07:52,693
That movie would be all right.

1512
01:07:52,693 --> 01:07:55,488
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1513
01:07:55,488 --> 01:07:57,448
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01:07:57,448 --> 01:07:59,867
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01:07:59,867 --> 01:08:01,827
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01:08:01,827 --> 01:08:05,706
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01:08:05,706 --> 01:08:07,666
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1520
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1521
01:08:20,221 --> 01:08:23,224
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1522
01:08:23,849 --> 01:08:25,017
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1523
01:08:25,017 --> 01:08:26,018
Thank you so much.

1524
01:08:26,018 --> 01:08:27,853
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1525
01:08:27,853 --> 01:08:29,772
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