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Episode 234
Season 1
Bootstrapped to $12B: Mailchimp’s Ben Chestnut on Life After the Exit
Guest: Ben Chestnut, Former CEO and Co-Founder of Mailchimp
If you find yourself selling your startup, then Mailchimp co-founder Ben Chestnut has some important advice for you: Get a dog.
When Intuit bought Mailchimp in 2021 for $12 billion, the company asked Ben if he wanted to stay on as CEO, but he chose to “walk off into the sunset” and let the new owners take over.
After that, he estimates it took 6 to 12 months before he stopped checking his email, social media, and calendar with the same level of stress a CEO might have. Adopting a dog, he discovered, forces you to “get OK with the voices in your head."
After that, he estimates it took 6 to 12 months before he stopped checking his email, social media, and calendar with the same level of stress a CEO might have. Adopting a dog, he discovered, forces you to “get OK with the voices in your head."
“After the acquisition, that's all I do, I walk the dog,” Ben says. “And the dog was good therapy ... No judgments from a dog.”
Mentioned in this episode: Intuit, Wolt, DoorDash, LinkedIn, Dan Kurzius, Salesforce, ExactTarget, Pardot, Constant Contact, Rackspace, Free by Chris Anderson, Wired Magazine, Charles Hudson, the Freemium Summit, Drew Houston, Dropbox, Evernote, Phil Libin, TechCrunch, Brian Kane, Catalyst Partners, Georgia Pacific, Scott Cook, Bing Gordon, Vinay Hiremath, Loom, Joe Thomas, Caltrain, Flickr, Saturday Night Live, Droga5, Cannes Film Festival, Strava, Twitter, LinkedIn, Nvidia, Glean, Rubrik, Amazon AWS, and Mechnical Turk.
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Chapters
- Growing slow
- The long journey
- Is money a burden?
- Building globally in Atlanta
- Ben’s upbringing
- The first 10 years
- Scaling to one billion emails
- Freemium
- No equity
- Deciding to sell
- “I’m a sunset guy”
- Stress and support
- Time with the parents
- Get a dog
- The voices in your head
- Serial and “Mailkimp”
- Hiring interviews
- Fitness routines
- Lights off
- AI & reinvention
- The worst days
- What “grit” means to Ben