WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:03.720 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:06.480 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:07.519 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:13.800 Hey, everybody, if this is your very first time joining, 5 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:17.079 you have stumbled onto a wonderful podcast. 6 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:19.120 What an amazing experience for you. 7 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:21.399 Yes, we are so excited for you. 8 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:24.280 Yes, it's going to be incredible. This is your first time. 9 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:26.000 Wow, fuck up. 10 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.679 We have the Bible guys, and uh, we're going to 11 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:35.119 jump into Proverbs that we'll continuing on with. And by 12 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.200 the way, we haven't mentioned this in a long time, 13 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:41.000 but we are walking through the highlights or the milestones 14 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:44.640 of the Old Testament. That's coct right, and and Proverbs 15 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:49.399 is such you know, it is such a unique book 16 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:51.320 of the Bible because it's not. 17 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:53.200 Story driven, right, it's not. 18 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:56.799 It's not like event driven or even you know, it's 19 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:57.840 just a bunch of wisdom. 20 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.000 It's a wise saying. That's what I like to call them, 21 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:01.079 why saying. 22 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:06.079 Yes, yes, So anyway, before we jump into that, we have. 23 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:09.040 Like they're like ancient poster themes. 24 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:12.480 Yes right right, yes, yes, I agree, And they would 25 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:15.000 chisel them in rock and then hang them on the walls, 26 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:20.079 maybe just like our posters. This is a segment that 27 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:21.519 Desiree has put together. 28 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:25.439 Called stump foot pastor don't don't don't don't don't dom 29 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:27.799 And this is from Alisha L. 30 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:33.560 Hi, Alicia L. There you go so nice whenever whenever 31 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:38.799 people write notes to us. Yes, we were so Alicia. Sincerely, Alicia, 32 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:40.480 thank you for trusting us with this question. 33 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:42.680 We actually really mean that, sincerely. If you have any 34 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:46.359 questions at all, you can email us at info at 35 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:50.120 the Bible guys dot com and or you know, just 36 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:52.280 respond on YouTube or you know, throw it in the 37 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:56.239 comments somewhere, and we will be glad to consider your question. 38 00:01:56.359 --> 00:02:01.079 So here's Alicia L's question. Can someone who has never 39 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:03.599 been baptized still go to heaven? 40 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:05.400 Oh? Good question. 41 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:08.280 And by the way, this is a very common question. 42 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:11.039 And wouldn't you say that this is one of the 43 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:16.599 more debated questions among the different religions. 44 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:20.319 Yeah, there's several denominations that would say no, you can't 45 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:22.840 go to heaven without being baptist, correct, because this is 46 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:24.560 what saves you, right? Yeah? 47 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:28.360 Yeah, so, and by the way, where would that belief 48 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:31.639 come in? Well, I mean I know where I grew up, right, 49 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:36.479 So I grew up in a denomination where they baptize infants, right, 50 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:40.479 a very very traditional and. 51 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:43.319 This is where it comes from, okay, right right right, yeah, yeah, 52 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:48.120 from Catholicism. Ancient Catholicism is what has driven the idea 53 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:50.120 of baptism is required for salvation. 54 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:50.520 Yeah. 55 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:52.639 And so so if you if you, if you wonder 56 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.800 where that came from, you really sort of have to 57 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.439 back up, and you you really have to zoom out 58 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:01.759 to thirty thousand foot view. And it really comes down 59 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:04.919 to who do you believe carries the authority. So when 60 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:07.120 I grew up, we were sort of non practicing Catholics, 61 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.400 and and and I and I would pop in and 62 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:12.840 out of these you know, CCD classes and and uh, 63 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.159 you know these different things that at my Catholic church, 64 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:18.159 and and and we would you know, show up every 65 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:20.840 once in a while, you know, to to to the church. 66 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.759 But what I learned is is that uh, and if 67 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.039 you google this you can find out find this out. 68 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.319 Many Catholics actually don't even know this, but. 69 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:34.280 The Catholic Church decrees that if the Pope uh declares 70 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.000 something is true, the actual verbidge is something like this. 71 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:42.439 It is the same as if God himself speaks. 72 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.960 The phrase is if he speaks ex cathedral. Well, so 73 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:49.120 when the when the pope speaks about, hey, good morning, 74 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:52.520 is sony sonny outside, that's not from God, that's just 75 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.800 his opinion. But when he announces I'm speaking ex cathedral, 76 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.280 which is rare, but when he speaks ex cathedra, that 77 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.560 means this is the doctrine of the Church and is 78 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:01.199 from God. 79 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.639 Okay, yeah, and so the ex cathedra is what he 80 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:08.240 would say is equivalent or equal. 81 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.599 To just the same as the Bible, right, And. 82 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:13.680 It's because that's by the way, that stems from the 83 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:17.639 belief of they would say Peter was the first pope. 84 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:19.920 You know, the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven was 85 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:22.639 given to nobody except for Peter, and then there's been, 86 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.120 you know, a lineage of popes, and so our pope 87 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:28.519 is connected to you know, he's the X, you know, 88 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:30.959 whatever number in line he is something like that, and 89 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.680 that's that's where that theory comes from. So so therefore 90 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:35.639 we bet we zoom out, and we asked this question. 91 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:39.560 It depends on who you believe has the authority. If 92 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.680 you believe the Church has the authority, then you know 93 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:45.240 that's a that's a more difficult question. If you believe 94 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:48.720 the Bible has the authority, then then you know, you 95 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:51.600 can take the Bible. And we always say the Bible 96 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:55.439 is its own best commentary, right, take every single verse 97 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.399 that we know about baptism. And so if if mankind 98 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.759 comes along, for instance, somebody like the pope and says, hey, 99 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:03.959 we heard from God and this is what it is. 100 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:07.639 So there's a difference between the uh, you. 101 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:11.160 Know, the modern church and the postmodern church, right and 102 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.680 and and so the modern church would say, hey, we 103 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:16.720 have to we have to know everything there is to know. 104 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:19.600 There is no mystery of God. We have to figure 105 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:20.279 out all things. 106 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:22.519 And they had they had to answer this question, which 107 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:25.800 is do babies go to heaven? And that's where this 108 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:28.519 doctrine came from. And they were trying to answer the 109 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.759 question what happens if it infant dies? And I think this, 110 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:35.079 I think this was I think this didn't come into 111 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:38.560 like I mean, it was hundreds and hundreds of years. 112 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:44.199 And it was a Constantine Constantine sid like three hundred 113 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:48.399 three twelve, I think. Okay, so hundreds of years later, 114 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:50.199 after Christianity began. 115 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:52.279 After Christianity began, they came up with this theory. 116 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:54.839 Yeah, so that wouldn't be the modern church by the way. 117 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.000 Oh yeah, that's right. I actually thought it was like 118 00:05:58.199 --> 00:05:59.360 sixteen hundred years later. 119 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.759 Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, it was so Constantine was 120 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.480 getting ready. It was right before Constantine became emperor. He 121 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.040 was getting ready to go up in a war. He 122 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.199 had about twenty five thousand soldiers. He's going up against 123 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.079 his arch rival as they were competing to take over 124 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:20.160 Rome and the Roman Empire, and he was going up 125 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:22.480 against an army that was more than twice his size. 126 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:26.439 And he had a dream that he heard Jesus speak. 127 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:28.399 It was the night before the war, the battle. He 128 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.959 had a dream and he saw in the sky a 129 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:38.480 flaming sword and a cross, and he heard in his 130 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:41.920 dream Jesus say, with these symbols, go and conquer. So 131 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.959 up to that point, Christianity was illegal in the Roman 132 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.800 Empire to the point of death. And then he announces, 133 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:51.600 Jesus told me that if we go with the cross 134 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.199 and the sword, we're going to win. We're all Christians now. 135 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.480 And so he had the entire army baptized because he 136 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.399 didn't know how he became a Christian, right, he had 137 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:02.879 no idea alls he knew was that we were executing 138 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:07.319 people because they got baptized. And so now everybody gets baptized, 139 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:08.959 all in the same day. And then they went out 140 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:11.279 and they won. They won the war. That's how he 141 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:13.680 became emperor. Yeah, and so then he gets back to 142 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.120 Rome and he goes, guess what, we're all Christians now, 143 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:20.800 and they started baptizing, but that baptism for infants. Then 144 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.079 they began to because they didn't have a solid doctrinal understanding. 145 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.319 They began to say, well, if you get if you 146 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:28.959 go to heaven because of being baptized, which isn't true, 147 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:33.040 then we better baptize our babies because we need to. 148 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:35.720 And of course at that point you can't dunk a baby. 149 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:39.040 And so they took the Jewish tradition of sprinkling of 150 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:42.800 anointing with oil and they use that as their process. 151 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:44.639 So that's how it happened. So, yeah, it was in 152 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:45.560 the three hundreds. 153 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:47.360 Okay, well, first of all, I didn't know that's when 154 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:48.639 baptism was connected to it. 155 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:50.519 I did know that story. In fact, do you know 156 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:51.759 the part of the story. 157 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.360 Where the Roman soldiers get baptized without the right arm? 158 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:55.279 You know that? 159 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.120 Yeah, So The rest of that story is he had 160 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:02.279 baptized the entire army at the time, but had them. 161 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:03.319 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 162 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:05.399 He had them hold their right arm above the. 163 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:07.759 Water because that's the fighting army. He didn't want that 164 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.319 sanctified where they'd feel guilty about Yeah yeah, fighting. 165 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:15.439 Baptized the entire army except for the right arms, which 166 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:16.040 is crazy. 167 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:17.480 So yeah, but I did not know. 168 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:22.720 So that's the time when the church shifted was because 169 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:25.519 at that point then Christianity became legal and he began 170 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:29.120 appointing his own bishops and stuff. Right, So then it 171 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:31.639 just kind of it faded after that. That's when it 172 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:34.320 began to be embraced as that's the mainstream is baptism 173 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:37.320 is essential. But let's go back to her question. Alicia 174 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.159 asked about is it possible to go to heaven without 175 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:43.320 being baptized. The answer is emphatically yes. 176 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:44.039 Correct. 177 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:47.919 The way we know that that's true is in Luke 178 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:53.840 chapter twenty three, Jesus is on the cross and there's 179 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.679 a criminal on either side of Jesus, and the one 180 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:01.679 criminal mocks Jesus, but the other criminal says, Jesus, if 181 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:03.639 it's possible, would you take me to paradise with you, 182 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:06.679 and Jesus said today you'll be with me in paradise. 183 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:10.000 So there's no record of them both hopping off the 184 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:13.759 cross and Jesus baptizing this guy. He didn't do it. It 185 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.240 was a belief component. Right, there's this thing, and this 186 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:18.360 is consistent as you read through the Book of Romans. 187 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:21.759 The Book of Romans is the strongest I believe doctrinal 188 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:26.000 book in the Bible, and maybe Romans and Hebrews, right, 189 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.759 but in Romans it's very very clear. Like in Romans 190 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:32.759 chapter ten, it mentions you have to believe in your 191 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:36.480 heart and confess with your mouth. So you confess your sins. 192 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:40.080 You confess that Jesus's Lord. It says there he's the King. 193 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:42.559 And then you believe in your heart that God raising 194 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:44.720 from and you will be safe. 195 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:46.600 And whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall 196 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:47.039 be saved. 197 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:50.279 That's right. And it doesn't say plus all these other things. 198 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.360 So there are passages where sometimes it gets a little confusing. 199 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:58.120 The Book of Mark, for instance, the Book of Acts 200 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:00.840 when they say what do we need to do in 201 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:04.120 Acts chapter one or two, and Peter says you need 202 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:06.519 to repent of your sins, and be baptized. 203 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.960 Right, and he wasn't and he wasn't right, because you 204 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.480 could read that as both are required, right, right. 205 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:16.080 Baptism comes after repentance always, right, right. Baptism comes after 206 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:21.919 salvation always, every single time they declare I do I 207 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.919 have trusted Christ, I am trusting Christ, then they get baptized. 208 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.639 So baptism is the outward symbol of that internal right. 209 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:31.039 And by the way, that's that's another thing too. So 210 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.519 I mean, so what I was trying to originally get 211 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.720 at is the belief of a child being baptized. But 212 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.080 by the way, I'm saying this because I was baptized 213 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.159 as an infant, right were you? 214 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:43.320 You weren't, Yeah, you weren't. 215 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:46.000 No, I was. I was born to a committed family 216 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:46.639 of pagans. 217 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.159 That's right, that's right, that's right. 218 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:51.960 So yeah, your dad getting didn't get saved till he's 219 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:56.279 what forty Yeah, yeah, something like that. So anyway, my so, 220 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.240 my family had had them all baptized, and in most 221 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:01.240 most people that I I know that one you know, hey, 222 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:02.559 will you baptize my infant? 223 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:03.440 My baby? 224 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:06.120 You know, my grandchild was born. I told my daughter, 225 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:08.279 we have to hurry up and get this child baptized. Well, 226 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:10.679 they don't even really understand like what that really means. 227 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:13.320 So the doctrine of the church and this is this 228 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:17.039 is maybe where I'm getting confused. I think maybe this 229 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:20.759 came later, right, because because there was an explanation of 230 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.960 how there is an actual the Catholic Church would decree 231 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:28.759 that there's an original there's a removal of the original 232 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.639 sin of Adam during baptism. Maybe that was qualified later. 233 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:34.200 Maybe that's why I'm getting confused. But anyway, or maybe not, 234 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.840 but anyway, the uh, but that's what they would say, 235 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:41.320 it happens. But most people who are my friends, they're like, what, 236 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:42.759 like they don't know that. 237 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.919 All they know is I have a baby. It's emotional. 238 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:47.519 Let me hurry up and get a baptized because I 239 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:49.679 want to make sure they're okay that they go to heaven. 240 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:54.559 But the Bible says every verse about salvation, every single 241 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:58.440 instance about baptism, every single one takes place after a 242 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:02.080 person puts their faith and trust in Jesus Christ. There 243 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:05.039 is not a single incident in the Bible where somebody 244 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.080 gets baptized before that happens, right, or an instruction. 245 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:11.519 It's not even it's not even it's not even that 246 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:12.519 we're looking for examples. 247 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.879 We're talking about even instruction and so and so it 248 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:19.639 is pretty clear that baptism is meant after a person 249 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:21.120 trusts Christ. 250 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:23.000 And so therefore we believe. 251 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.840 That if if an infant dies, you know, let's just 252 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:28.840 say an infant, you know, is eight months old or 253 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.799 something and has this tragic thing happen or something like that, 254 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:35.000 we would come up with the doctrine of there's an 255 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.759 agent of accountability right, yes, where if the child is 256 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:43.480 not old enough to reject Christ, then then then that 257 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.399 child has not rejected Christ, and therefore would be protected 258 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.080 and under the care. 259 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.679 And love of God. It is. 260 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:53.120 It is, there's an accountability age where a person has 261 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.519 a chance to either reject the truth of Christ or 262 00:12:56.919 --> 00:12:59.720 not pursue the truth of Christ, or you know, or 263 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:01.519 those types of things. They have to be old enough 264 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:03.039 to wrestle with that decision. 265 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:05.679 So there you go. 266 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:07.120 Thank you. 267 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:08.399 I've said all that I need to say. 268 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.519 Thank you. Hey, And that's that's the longest response we've 269 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:12.600 given to anybody so far. 270 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.440 Oh wow, we're at thirteen minutes. Yeah, by the way, 271 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.080 that's not true. We have actually. 272 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.679 Gone longer, we've gone just as long. Okay. Yeah, Becau 273 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.200 doesn't say, do we need to extend it out so 274 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.559 that she gets the longest sale time record? 275 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:29.600 Yeah, so there you go, l thank you, thank you 276 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:30.120 for asking. 277 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.879 That's fantastic. Yes, there's so much more to say about that, 278 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:38.279 but we should stop there. Yep. Okay. So we continue 279 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:45.159 in Proverbs chapter twenty four, and I have no transition 280 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:49.000 on this one. I looked off through this one. I could. Yeah. Yeah, 281 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:52.360 So twenty four verse one is where we're at, and uh, 282 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.000 we're going to read through this whole passage is kind 283 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:57.080 of long, so we're just going to jump on it here. 284 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:57.720 Okay. 285 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:02.440 It says don't env people. By the way, that. 286 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.879 That question that Alicia asked us and felt like there 287 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:08.480 was a lot of pressure to it. But verse over 288 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:11.519 ten and proverb says, if you fail under pressure, your 289 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:12.559 strength is too small. 290 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:16.799 Oh there we didn't. Yeah, and so standing strong yeah 291 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:19.559 in their Yeah, good job, Chris. Let me try this again. 292 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:23.840 First one, readers don't envy evil people or desire their 293 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:26.960 company for their hearts plot violence and their words always 294 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.799 stir up trouble. A house is built by wisdom and 295 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:33.240 becomes strong through good sense, through knowledge. Its rooms are 296 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:36.279 filled with all sorts of precious riches and valuables. The 297 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:38.759 wise are mightier than the strong, and those with knowledge 298 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.759 grow stronger and stronger. So don't go to war without 299 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:46.519 wise guidance. Victory depends on having many advisors. Wisdom is 300 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:48.879 too lofty for fools. Among leaders at the city gate, 301 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:51.720 they have nothing to say. A person who plans evil 302 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.519 will get a reputation as a troublemaker. The schemes of 303 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:57.720 a fool are sinful. Everyone to tests some mocker. If 304 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:01.399 you fail under pressure, your strength is too small. Rescue 305 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.600 those who are unjustly sentenced to die, Save them as 306 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.840 they stagger to their death. Don't excuse yourself by saying, look, 307 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:10.120 we didn't know. For God understands all hearts, and he 308 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:13.600 sees you. He who guards your soul knows you well 309 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:17.320 er knows you knew. Oh, there you go. He will 310 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:21.639 repay all people as their actions deserve. My child, eat honey, 311 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:23.279 for it is good, and the honeycomb is sweet to 312 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:25.559 the taste. And the same way wisdom is sweet to 313 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:28.200 your soul. If you find it, you'll have a bright 314 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.919 future and your hopes will not be cut short, don't 315 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.240 wait in ambush at the home of the godly, and 316 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:36.200 don't raid the house where the godly live. The godly 317 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:38.320 may trips seven times, but they will get up again. 318 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:42.399 But one disaster is enough to overthrow the wicked. Don't 319 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:46.080 rejoice when your enemies fall. Don't be happy when they stumble, 320 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.759 for the Lord will be displeased with you, will turn 321 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.120 his anger away from them. Don't fret because of evildoers. 322 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.559 Don't envy the wicked for people. For evil people have 323 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:58.200 no future. The light of the wicked will be snuffed out. 324 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:02.159 My child. Fear the Lord and the King. Don't associate 325 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:05.240 with rebels, for a disaster will hit them suddenly. Who 326 00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:07.600 knows what punishment will come from the Lord and the King. 327 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.039 Here are some further sayings of the wise. It is 328 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:14.840 wrong to show favoritism when passing judgment. A judge who 329 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:17.080 says to the wicked you are innocent will be cursed 330 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.120 by many people and denounced by the nations. But it 331 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:21.960 will go well for those who convict the guilty. Rich 332 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:25.519 blessings will be showered on them. An honest answer is 333 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.759 like a kiss of friendship. Do your planning and prepare 334 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.480 your fields before building your house. Don't testify against your 335 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:36.000 neighbors without cause, don't lie about them, don't say now 336 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.279 I can pay them back for what they've done to me, 337 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:42.279 I'll get even with them. I walked by the fields 338 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.360 of a lazy person, the vineyard of one with no 339 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:47.159 common sense. I saw that it was overgrown with nettles, 340 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.320 and it was covered with weeds, and its walls were 341 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:51.279 broken down. And then as I looked and thought about it, 342 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:54.240 I learned this lesson. A little extra sleep, a little 343 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:56.919 more slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, 344 00:16:57.159 --> 00:16:59.440 and then poverty will pounce on you like a bandit. 345 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.200 Scared city would attack you like an armed robber. 346 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.200 Wow, scarcity will attack you like an armed robber. 347 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:07.319 Yeah. 348 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:09.640 Again, very poetic, very very visual. 349 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:13.279 And wow, a little sleep, a little slumber, a little 350 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:14.599 folding of the hands to rest. 351 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:18.759 Yeah. You know, Solomon really talks a lot about laziness, 352 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:19.160 doesn't he. 353 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:19.920 Yeah. 354 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.440 There's a lot of verses in there that say, hey, 355 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:23.000 work hard. 356 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:24.799 Yeah, And you. 357 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:27.400 Know, it just goes back to the fact that we 358 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:29.039 have to realize we are made. 359 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:31.119 To work well. The verse we read a verse was 360 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:34.119 it yesterday or the day before? Where the guy goes, oh, 361 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:36.240 there might be a lion in the street. You know, 362 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:39.400 I better stay home, right, Yeah, I'm not going to 363 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:42.079 go to work today. There might be something bad out there. Right. 364 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:45.319 There's all kinds of excuses not to work here. It's 365 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:47.640 I'm a little sleepy, I need to not work whatever. 366 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.440 He has this belief. Solomon has this very strong belief 367 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:52.119 hard work is going to pay off and you're going 368 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:55.200 to have a house house full of riches at some point. Yeah. 369 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.920 And laziness is always going to cause everything to fall apart. 370 00:17:58.200 --> 00:17:58.559 Yeah. 371 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:02.480 And then he says that a wise man, a godly man, 372 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.000 is going to work hard and then if he's wise, 373 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:09.640 his house will be full of wealth. He ties wealth 374 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:15.319 and hard work with wisdom. And then he says this passage, 375 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:19.680 I'm glad you what's up? Because he says, where's the 376 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:22.359 verse that says that they'll fall seven times and they 377 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.519 get back up again? The righteous man falls seven times 378 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:26.279 and gets back up. 379 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:30.000 I know you read it. 380 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:31.440 I know I read. 381 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.759 It, But you also read thirty four verses. 382 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:38.839 Yes, it's in here. Yeah. Anyways, I always read that 383 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:45.640 because wealth takes risk, right, right, and so a lot 384 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:47.960 of us we don't build the kind of wealth we 385 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.160 could build because we're afraid to make the kind of 386 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:55.160 investment it takes to get there. But it's interesting. A 387 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:58.039 wise person will have the ability to try and try 388 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.079 and try and try, and even if they fail a 389 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:01.880 few times, they're going to get back up and keep going. 390 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:05.960 A foolish person, oftentimes, he says, there's crooked people and 391 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.559 they get out and take advantage of others, and that's 392 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.559 how they get wealthy. Or foolish people and lazy people 393 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:15.119 just won't even take the steps necessary to build wealth. Right, 394 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.559 and so there is this wisdom will carry you through 395 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:25.079 and help you beyond. Just it's verse sixteen sixteen. I 396 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:28.319 know the godly may trip seven times, but they'll get 397 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:32.000 up again. And so there is this idea that if 398 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:37.000 you're godly and you're wise. Sure, now he's not guaranteeing 399 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:39.039 that life is going to be smooth and easy, but 400 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:40.480 he is saying that you're going to be able to 401 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:42.319