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<v Speaker 1>Well, today we're going to look at how the apostle

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<v Speaker 1>Paul like he man says I have the power.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about freedom and Christ and bearing much fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Chris, I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible guys. Okay, Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So of all the segments we've done yes over the

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<v Speaker 2>last few weeks, by far, the biggest response was the

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<v Speaker 2>segment that we did what made Chris Mad this week?

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<v Speaker 2>People loved it. You have big opinions, big feelings, big emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>You respond to things in big ways, and so people

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<v Speaker 2>just really enjoy hearing and they resonate. They resonate with

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<v Speaker 2>last time you talked about somebody leaving a shopping car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everybody's passionate about that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're particularly passionate about everything. And so then this

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<v Speaker 2>this is we love what made Chris mad this week?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna ask you the same question, Chris and

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<v Speaker 2>just Enlightness. What made Chris mad this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it actually happened today. Yeah. On the way here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So on the way here, I'm driving and I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the right lane and there was a car in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me that didn't pull up, and yet all he

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<v Speaker 1>had to do was inch up about I'm not even kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>like six inches, and then I would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>move to the right and go into the empty turning lane. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so I could turn right right, But instead he makes

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<v Speaker 1>me wait, or she whoever it was made me wait,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it was it was it was a she. I looked.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked. I looked a him when I passed him, but.

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<v Speaker 2>With a mean look, just to say, like, like seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>because here's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>We pull up to the red light, and this person

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<v Speaker 1>has almost almost an entire car lank, an entire carling.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't as if like, hey, let me get

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<v Speaker 1>a little closer to this bumper. Which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not against people who say I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get too close to this car. Listen, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>prerogative to leave an entire car length every time you

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<v Speaker 1>stop read light.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just be considerate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the issue like, however you want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>far back, That's not the issue. The issue is this.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's here, here's here's a clue for people. Okay, driving

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<v Speaker 1>is a communal thing. It is you have to consider

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<v Speaker 1>other people. It's not about you, there's other people, everybody together.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a thing that we all do together.

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<v Speaker 2>There's kind of unspoken rules. It's a dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, it's a dance. So so here I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to myself and I almost want to use the word never,

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<v Speaker 1>but but let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just say go ahead, just go ahead. We love the passion, okay, never?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, then I will say this. I will. I

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<v Speaker 1>would never be in a turning lane and see the

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<v Speaker 1>guy behind me super close to me without thinking to myself, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to inch op six inches, especially since I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually turned that way, but my whole front of my

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<v Speaker 1>car is turned that way, where it's pretty obvious that

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm going to go just around him, I write,

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<v Speaker 1>tires going to go over the bumper. Right, But this

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<v Speaker 1>guy or girl, it was a girl, she decides. I

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<v Speaker 1>hesitan say girl because it doesn't matter, right, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know who it was. It was a girl. So she

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<v Speaker 1>decides to look in the mirror see me, and not

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<v Speaker 1>to pull up. And let me just tell you something. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I got so infuriated, so I had to sit through

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<v Speaker 1>this entire light when I didn't have to. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>so listen, just consider this, just be just.

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<v Speaker 2>Be considerate drivers out there. People.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't take a lot of effort.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Just be aware of what's around you.

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<v Speaker 2>Put your carts away, yes, and pay attention to the

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<v Speaker 2>turn lanes and make enough room for.

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<v Speaker 1>People, and be nice to the waitress and be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right, because you said that, yes, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well just be kind. Well, Chris, I think most of

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<v Speaker 2>us resonate with with that. I do think it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>that you were rate up on our bumper. What were

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<v Speaker 2>you going to intimidate her into moving forward?

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to send the message because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to give people the benefit of the doubt. So benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of the doubt is she's just dominant, doesn't She's not

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<v Speaker 1>being inconsiderate. It could be right, she's just a person's

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<v Speaker 1>answering text whatever. But when you look up in your

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<v Speaker 1>rearview mirror and you see somebody is pulled to the

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<v Speaker 1>right and his in the corner of his cars at

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<v Speaker 1>your bumper, and you know there's a turning land on

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<v Speaker 1>the right hand side, and all you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is move up six inches, she knew. She just decided,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, He's not going to intimidate me to

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<v Speaker 1>move up six inches.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So she's a strong woman girl.

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<v Speaker 1>It made Chris mad this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, actually that's what made Chris mad this week? Today? Today,

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<v Speaker 2>we should change his segment. What made Chris mad today?

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<v Speaker 2>What made Chris mad this morning? We could do that

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<v Speaker 2>every day. What made Chris?

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<v Speaker 1>We start filming at nine a m. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure there'll be too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. So that's great, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I think everybody agrees with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know what, comment? Please comment about your driving

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<v Speaker 1>frustrations and put them in or email us at info

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<v Speaker 1>at bible guys dot com, because I think that can

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<v Speaker 1>you know, driving responsibility and being aware. Yeah, it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that we all.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to Yeah. So I realized that driving is a

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<v Speaker 2>community thing and a dance thing. In Cairo, Egypt, everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>honking be beat beat, beat, beep, and I'm thinking why

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody is honking because they're mad. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're like geese, just saying I'm here, I'm here,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on your right, I'm on your left. Just dbbbt

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<v Speaker 2>beep and everybody just kind of moving through like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Same same in India.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though India is horrific in terms of people

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<v Speaker 1>and traffic and everything else, and there's no rules, there's

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<v Speaker 2>The people aren't horrible, it's just there's so many people.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, it's like the safest and

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<v Speaker 1>most pleasant, even though it's so frustrating in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the quantity of people. It's everybody is super polite. They

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<v Speaker 1>let everybody in, and I'm thinking, well, this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's mad, right, Although I was in one cab ribe

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<v Speaker 2>one time and in the course of one mile, we

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<v Speaker 2>hit another cab, we hit a bicyclist, and we hit

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<v Speaker 2>a pedestrian. Oh and our cab just kept yelling out

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<v Speaker 2>the window. We never stopped, so we're only doing like

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen miles an hour. But you know how it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You get in there and there's just NonStop, just bumper

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<v Speaker 2>to bumper traffic. But we hit another cab, a guy

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<v Speaker 2>on a bicycle, and a pedestrian and we never stopped,

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<v Speaker 2>just yelled. He just yelled at people. So he might

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<v Speaker 2>be the only angry cab driver in Cairo. But wow,

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe India is better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Anyways, we said all that to say bad drivers

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<v Speaker 2>make Chris mad today. Yes, that's it. Okay, well good,

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<v Speaker 2>let's move on. We're going to we're coming close to

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<v Speaker 2>wrapping up Galatians. Galatians is kind of like James. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a short little book. He gets right to the point,

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<v Speaker 2>he goes right after it. Yesterday is his main theological argument,

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<v Speaker 2>right of comparing or making it clear that the promise

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<v Speaker 2>of Abraham was not a law. The promise of Abraham

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<v Speaker 2>as a savior. That's the whole idea behind Isaac. Isaac

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<v Speaker 2>all those things. So he ties the whole argument into

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<v Speaker 2>the promise of Abraham was the fact that a Messiah

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<v Speaker 2>was coming and that we can be free from the

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<v Speaker 2>law by faith. Then now we're getting into the practical

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<v Speaker 2>application of it, the everyday thing. These are the things

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<v Speaker 2>that for you and me in particular, we're not maybe

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<v Speaker 2>struggling with Judaizers coming in trying to get us to

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<v Speaker 2>become Jews before we become Christians, although we do sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>struggle with trying to apply old religious norms and old

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<v Speaker 2>religious rules and forms into our Christianity. Now this becomes

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<v Speaker 2>the very practical application of how to live it out.

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<v Speaker 2>The freedom that we have in Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>So freedom in Christ, living by the power of the Spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Spirit that's right. So here we go. We're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to read this chapter chapter five. So so

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<v Speaker 2>Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you stay free and don't get tied up again in

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<v Speaker 2>slavery law. Listen, I Paul tell you this. If you

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<v Speaker 2>are counting on circumcision to make you right with God,

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<v Speaker 2>then Christ will be of no benefit to you. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>say it again. If you're trying to find favor with

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<v Speaker 2>God by being circumcised, you must obey every regulation and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole law Moses. For if you're trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you've been

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<v Speaker 2>caught off from Christ. You've fallen away from God's grace.

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<v Speaker 2>But we who live by the Spirit eagerly want to

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<v Speaker 2>receive by faith the righteousness God has promised to us.

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<v Speaker 2>For when we place our faith in Christ Jesus, there

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<v Speaker 2>is no benefit in being circumcised or being uncircumcised. What

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<v Speaker 2>is important is faith expressing itself in love. You are

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<v Speaker 2>running the race so well. Who has held you back

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<v Speaker 2>from following the truth? It certainly isn't God, for he's

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<v Speaker 2>the one who called you to freedom. This false teaching

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<v Speaker 2>is like a little yeast that spreads through the whole

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<v Speaker 2>batch of dough. I'm trusting the Lord to keep you

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<v Speaker 2>from believing false teachings. God will judge that person, whoever

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<v Speaker 2>he is, who's been confusing you. Dear brothers and sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>If I were still preaching that you must be circumis

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<v Speaker 2>size as some say I do, why am I still

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<v Speaker 2>being persecuted. If I were no longer preaching salvations through

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<v Speaker 2>the Cross of Christ, no one be offended. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wish that those troublemakers who want to mutilate you by

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<v Speaker 2>circumcision would mutilate themselves. Oh that's rough statement. For you

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<v Speaker 2>have been called to live in freedom, my brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 2>But don't use your freedom to satisfy your sinful nature. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>use your freedom to serve one another in love. For

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<v Speaker 2>the whole law can be summed up in this one command.

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<v Speaker 2>Love your neighbor as yourself. But if you are always

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<v Speaker 2>biting and devouring one another, watch out, beware of destroying

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<v Speaker 2>one another. So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide

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<v Speaker 2>your lives. Then you won't be doing what your sinful

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<v Speaker 2>nature craves. The sinful nature wants to do evil, which

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<v Speaker 2>the Spirit gives us desires that are opposite of what

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<v Speaker 2>the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting

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<v Speaker 2>each other, so you're not free to carry out your

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<v Speaker 2>good intentions. But when you are directed by the Spirit,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not under obligation to the law of Moses. When

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<v Speaker 2>you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the result

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<v Speaker 2>are very clear. Sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy,

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,

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<v Speaker 2>and self control. There is no law against these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions

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<v Speaker 2>let us also follow the spirits leading in every part

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So he finishes his argument, and then he says,

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<v Speaker 2>and walk in the spirit. He says, you walk in

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know that, I know that I'm sort

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<v Speaker 1>living that sort of life will not inherit the kingdom

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<v Speaker 2>It's a strong statement.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a strong statement because if not careful, you could

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<v Speaker 1>misconstrue that and say, oh, so then you can do

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<v Speaker 1>bad things and therefore not go to heaven because of them. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it appears on the surface that this is a

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<v Speaker 2>Right, which is exactly the opposite of what he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>It is it is, But I think I think what

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<v Speaker 1>he's obviously because here's what happens when when a verse

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<v Speaker 1>context right, the context around it, and not only that,

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<v Speaker 1>but also to measure it versus every other promise and

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<v Speaker 1>one verse quoted, you know, and not given in context,

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<v Speaker 1>you could make it to say that if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>going to hell. You can totally make it to say that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet it's interesting because Paul's message is quite literally

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite. So if you take Galatians chapter one all

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite, over and over and over again. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these things are good things, That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I'm talking about getting to heaven. Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 1>how good deeds cannot get you to heaven and bad

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<v Speaker 1>deeds cannot keep you from heaven. That's the message. So

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<v Speaker 1>what Paul is saying here clearly is he's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a person who never comes to God, a person who

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<v Speaker 1>has their life sweat away and they spend their entire

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<v Speaker 1>life living this way. Meaning they're the people who don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, see the truth. They're the people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever come to God or accept the truth of the

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<v Speaker 1>Gospel of Christ. He's talking in generalities because otherwise you're

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<v Speaker 2>So sin does lead to death, and all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>even those are Christians, our bodies will die. So what

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing here is he's talking about the lusts of

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<v Speaker 2>the flesh versus the fruit of the spirit. So the

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<v Speaker 2>lust of the flesh will always lead to death. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's condemnation in that right judgment in that the judgment

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<v Speaker 2>is physical death. So all of those things, none of

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<v Speaker 2>those things are good. All of them are the results

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<v Speaker 2>of our sinful nature, all of them. So he's not

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<v Speaker 2>endorsing saying, now that you've got grace, go ahead with

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<v Speaker 2>all your sexual improprieties or immoralities or impurities or idolatry

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<v Speaker 2>or sorcery or coraling or parties. He's not saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay now that you have grace. Sure it's still going

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<v Speaker 2>to lead to the destruction of your life. It'll ruin

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<v Speaker 2>your life. And he said, those are the lifestyles of

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<v Speaker 2>people who are far from God, right, So don't live

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<v Speaker 2>that life. People that are far from God, those that

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<v Speaker 2>are under the judgment of God live those lives. And

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<v Speaker 2>why would you let your flesh do the same. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's there, he said, Instead this battle, this physical battle

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<v Speaker 2>versus the spiritual battle, those two things are butting heads

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<v Speaker 2>and fighting. So he says, but the Holy Spirit produces

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of fruit. And you know, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the law can kind of be thought of as a factory.

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<v Speaker 2>It just keeps turning out a certain product. But fruit

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<v Speaker 2>cannot be turned out of a factory. Fruit has to

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<v Speaker 2>be nurtured over time. And it's real life. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>just some plastic product. It's real life. And so he says,

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<v Speaker 2>the fruit of the spirit is love and joy and

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<v Speaker 2>peace and pat and kindness and goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and

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<v Speaker 2>self control. When you and I think of the very

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<v Speaker 2>best of humanity, that list covers it. Yeah, when we

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<v Speaker 2>think of the worst of humanity, the other list covers it.

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<v Speaker 2>Me at my best is when I'm walking in the spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>Me at my worst is when I'm living in the flesh.

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<v Speaker 2>So he says, there's no law against those things. So

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<v Speaker 2>he said, since we are living in the Spirit. Let

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<v Speaker 2>us follow the spirits leading in every way. What he's

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<v Speaker 2>saying is, let's walk in the spirit. There's another phrase

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<v Speaker 2>in here where he says verse sixteen, So I say,

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<v Speaker 2>let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won't

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<v Speaker 2>be doing what your sinful nature craves. So your sinful

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<v Speaker 2>nature will lead to death and destruction every time, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>ruin your life. But if you walk in the spirit,

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<v Speaker 2>then you won't give into those cravings because the Holy

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit's producing a different kind of fruit in it. For sure,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he's saying. Yeah, and in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm just talking about that one phrase. Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 1>will not inherit. The Kingdom of God sounds sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>He uses that statement multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it sounds like what you're saying, that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>statement about getting into heaven. No, right, that's what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, the Kingdom of God can be the

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<v Speaker 1>Kingdom of God on earth, meaning blessings, the movement of God,

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<v Speaker 2>I think what he's saying here the way that it's

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<v Speaker 2>translated into English versus the way that he's actually saying

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<v Speaker 2>it in Greek. I think what he's personally I think

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<v Speaker 2>what he's saying there is that's the lifestyle of the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are not getting into heaven, right, So why

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<v Speaker 2>would you live that life? That's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, it's interesting because my life application study Bible

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<v Speaker 1>says those who ignore such sins or refuse to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with them reveal that they have not received the gift

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<v Speaker 1>of the spirit that leads to a transformed life, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what I was saying earlier, which is he's referring

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<v Speaker 1>to that type of person because you can tell that

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<v Speaker 1>a person does not know Jesus because of what's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of them. It's not the fruits of the Spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this right. So in other words, I'm addressing it

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<v Speaker 1>because I've heard this statement before. I remember being at

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<v Speaker 1>a kid's camp and we partner with another church, and

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<v Speaker 1>this guy was quoting Fruits of the Spirit, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was actually saying, if you don't live these things out

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<v Speaker 1>and you live poorly, you're going to go to hell.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was actually using this verse to support that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the statement that he clung to was if you

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<v Speaker 1>do these things, you'll not inherit the Kingdom of God. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, you're not going to have it. The

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've seen, which is taking out the whole rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the book. The whole restalation is out of context.

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<v Speaker 1>It's taking everything out of contact.

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<v Speaker 2>He does use that phrase with various lists in Corinthians

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<v Speaker 2>and in other passages where he does say these kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of people are not the kind of people that are

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<v Speaker 2>going to inherit the kingdom of God. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>always pushes you to grace in faith. Right, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you're relying on the law. Earlier it says that if

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<v Speaker 2>you're lying on the law, then you have to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the whole law and you can never break it. The

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<v Speaker 2>Book of James says that if you've broken any part

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<v Speaker 2>of the law, you've broken the whole law. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>breaking a glass window. You break a part of the window,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole window has spirit placed. It's not like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just broke that little corner. So you know you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned the ten Commandments the other day, well, as long

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<v Speaker 2>as I get a passing grade. That's a false statement

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<v Speaker 2>in a misunderstanding of the law. What he's saying is

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<v Speaker 2>if you're trying to earn your way to heaven by

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<v Speaker 2>the law, you can't have one error in your entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>And Paul, who is trying to be at the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of this book, he gives his credibility, saying, I was

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<v Speaker 2>a fabulous pharisee. I lived a holier life than anybody

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<v Speaker 2>reading this, as far as just not breaking any of

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<v Speaker 2>the laws. And I was desperate because I was still

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<v Speaker 2>a sinner, right. And so the only hope that any

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<v Speaker 2>of us have for salvation is by faith in Christ. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if we really have the Holy Spirit, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be less and less wild parties, less and less drunkenness,

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<v Speaker 2>less and less right. The stronger the spirit gets in

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<v Speaker 2>our life, the weaker the flesh gets in our life.

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<v Speaker 2>The weaker the spirit is in our life, the stronger

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<v Speaker 2>the flesh is in our life. This is the battle

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<v Speaker 2>he talks about in Romans eight, that the things I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do I don't do. The things I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do, I do. And you know he's battling

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of the same thing. So he says,

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<v Speaker 2>feed the spirit. And you know, we've told that story before,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's been many times. You know, the man who

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<v Speaker 2>has the two dogs, the white dog and the black dog,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes they'll fight over food, and the other guy goes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>which one wins? And he said, whichever one I feed

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<v Speaker 2>the most? And that concept is true. Which one wins

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<v Speaker 2>in my life, the spirit of the flesh, whichever one

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeding the most. This is why having daily devotions,

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<v Speaker 2>spending a little bit of time every day in God's word,

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<v Speaker 2>you're feeding the spirit. For a few minutes. Now the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit has something to bring back up in your

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<v Speaker 2>mind again. Can we pivot just a moment. Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel about him saying I wish they'd cut

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<v Speaker 2>themselves off Earlier he says they're cursed with the word

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<v Speaker 2>anathema means I wish they'd go to hell. So he says,

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<v Speaker 2>these people who are teaching you these wicked things, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to add to the law, they're altering the gospel. And

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<v Speaker 2>this one he said, I wish they'd mutilate themselves, like

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to get you to mutilate yourself. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>literally saying King James says, castraight themselves. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>other one he says, they're saying you're going to hell.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish they'd go to hell. They're cursed, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those are some really strong statements about his concern about

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<v Speaker 2>those perverting the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that it makes me question, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember one time I went to my pastor when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in high school, and I said, should we hate

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<v Speaker 1>the devil? I said that should we hate the devil?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, why are you asking such a question?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, because the Bible says not to hate, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so if the Bible says not to hate, shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>we show compassion? Because after all, because I'm a movie guy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>every criminal could be redeemed. Darth Vader picks up the

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<v Speaker 1>emperor and throws him down, right, and nobody ever thought

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<v Speaker 1>he would do that, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>What is this saying about him not to hate?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it says the opposite. It says love should love

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<v Speaker 1>one another, forgive your enemies, right, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And so so it's like it's like, if the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>tells us love, why shouldn't we have compassion on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Darth Vaders of the world, and the ultimate Darth

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<v Speaker 1>Vader would be, of course the devil. And then my

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<v Speaker 1>pastor is like, yeah, I understand what you're saying, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we should pretty much hate evil. And he says we

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<v Speaker 1>should detest evil, and he started quoting all the things

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<v Speaker 1>about about evil and darkness, and how the Bible is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear that we should run, we should not have

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<v Speaker 1>compassion toward, we should not have empathy or sympathy toward

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<v Speaker 1>things that are downright evil. We should we should rebuke

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things in the name of Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>So I take it that Paul's statement here is not

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<v Speaker 1>just like I'm mad at these people they should be cursed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more like, do they understand that they're they're committing

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<v Speaker 1>the atrocity of trying to lead people away from the

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<v Speaker 1>truth of Jesus Christ, which is in the category of

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<v Speaker 1>anti God, anti truth. And so he makes a strong

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<v Speaker 1>statement here, your love for truth should be so great, yes, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything that's the enemy of truth is your enemy, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so so it's not about the person I In

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<v Speaker 2>Psalm chapter was one hundred and one, maybe one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and three hundred and three. Verse one, David says, I

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<v Speaker 2>will set no wicked thing before myne eyes. I hate

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<v Speaker 2>the work of those who turned away or turn aside.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to stick to me. So I can

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<v Speaker 2>hate those things that work against the truth and goodness

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<v Speaker 2>without hating the person. Right, you can hate the evil,

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<v Speaker 2>you can hate the thing. But you know, in today's

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<v Speaker 2>culture where what you do is your identity, people are

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<v Speaker 2>offended by that. But that's it's what you do is

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<v Speaker 2>not your identity, and that's just a false concept. So

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<v Speaker 2>in this situation, what Paula is saying is I love

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<v Speaker 2>the truth so much that I wish God would do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it took to get these people out of the

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<v Speaker 2>way because they're perverting truth. Yeah, right, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and that that's that's not an unreasonable or unbiblical view, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Only that, But think about it this way. So paul

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<v Speaker 1>is saying strong words against somebody who's bad, but Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>turns around and uses the same terminology against somebody who's good,

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<v Speaker 1>because because it's not about the person, to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about how how much we should love truth in

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<v Speaker 1>the word of God. So Jesus says an unbelievably controversial

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<v Speaker 1>statement and says, if you're not willing to hate your

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<v Speaker 1>father and mother, right, then you can't follow me. And

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<v Speaker 1>so once again he's attaching this word to to something.

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<v Speaker 1>In this case, it's good. It's like I love my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>So why are you telling me to hate my mom?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not that Jesus is meaning that we should

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<v Speaker 1>hate moms. It is that our love for Jesus should

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<v Speaker 1>be so strong that everything else should look like hate

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<v Speaker 1>in comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, It's it's the love is so huge and

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<v Speaker 2>so great that it seems to make minimize everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where people will, how come you don't

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<v Speaker 2>love me that way? Yeah, it feels like you hate me.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, that's because to my point about

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<v Speaker 1>this exact passage, it's because you take everything that Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>says in context with each other. Right, So, just because

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<v Speaker 1>that one simple verse says that exact phrase, people say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, Jesus is saying this. No, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to take the context and which Jesus is

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<v Speaker 1>explaining this. He's talking about giving up your life, taking

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<v Speaker 1>up your cross, following me, you know, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you, if you deny yourself, you're you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't gain life unless you do.

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<v Speaker 2>So, it's not a mistake that that idea is in

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<v Speaker 2>the same passage of the battle between the Holy Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>in our lives and our flesh. Right, So we should

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<v Speaker 2>hate the first list in our lives, and we should

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<v Speaker 2>love the second list. Love and joy and peace and

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<v Speaker 2>gentleness kind of self control. Right, that should be it?

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<v Speaker 2>That our love for the for the work of the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Sparent in life is so great that it pushes

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<v Speaker 2>away everything else. So I think that's where we should

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<v Speaker 2>wrap up today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too, and we will see you next time

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<v Speaker 1>on the Daily Bibble guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Mhm h