WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:01.950 --> 00:00:04.740 Jethro Jones: Welcome to a Vision for Learning Today. 00:00:04.740 --> 00:00:08.160 I wanted to give you some thoughts about using the Apple 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:09.960 Vision Pro for productivity. 00:00:10.710 --> 00:00:16.260 That is really one of the main things that Apple is pushing this for and 00:00:16.260 --> 00:00:20.610 saying, here's all these great things that you can do with the Apple Vision Pro. 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:24.140 And honestly, I think they're right. 00:00:24.200 --> 00:00:28.550 I'm pretty impressed after using it for a short time. 00:00:28.895 --> 00:00:31.865 With the kind of work that I do. 00:00:32.384 --> 00:00:34.665 number one, I made a video this weekend. 00:00:34.915 --> 00:00:38.515 check it out@divisionforlearning.com if you haven't already. 00:00:39.005 --> 00:00:42.660 about unboxing and what it's like my first impressions, that was all 00:00:42.665 --> 00:00:48.720 on my first day, and then I edited that video completely using the 00:00:48.720 --> 00:00:50.610 Apple with the Apple Vision Pro on. 00:00:51.230 --> 00:00:55.790 That was pretty powerful to experience that and see what it's like, 00:00:56.120 --> 00:00:59.269 and I enjoyed that aspect of it. 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:05.120 I felt like it did a great job and I was impressed with what I was able to 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:07.580 accomplish while wearing the headset. 00:01:08.030 --> 00:01:13.640 What's really fascinating is how it has already changed some of my. 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:15.260 Approaches to work. 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:18.560 The first thing that I wanna talk about is something that I mentioned in 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:21.710 that video is this idea of locking in. 00:01:21.950 --> 00:01:26.600 And so putting this device on and saying I'm going into work mode 00:01:26.960 --> 00:01:28.850 can be a really powerful thing. 00:01:28.970 --> 00:01:34.745 And something that I have already noticed has been powerful for me personally. 00:01:35.645 --> 00:01:37.055 So what does that look like? 00:01:37.385 --> 00:01:42.155 it looks I put the Apple Vision Pro on, and then I go into work mode. 00:01:42.635 --> 00:01:48.065 And I don't know if you're like me, but I've always struggled with 00:01:48.305 --> 00:01:51.744 being distracted and being able to stay focused and not letting 00:01:51.744 --> 00:01:53.815 all these things distract me. 00:01:53.820 --> 00:01:57.845 And this is something that, this actually helps with. 00:01:57.854 --> 00:02:03.824 having this thing attached to my face helps me stay focused and locked in. 00:02:04.414 --> 00:02:07.384 We all do little things to help us stay focused. 00:02:07.384 --> 00:02:13.274 Some people set timers, some people, use a thing like a ular thing that I use 00:02:13.274 --> 00:02:15.314 to help keep track of what I'm doing. 00:02:16.634 --> 00:02:19.184 And that can all be really powerful. 00:02:19.184 --> 00:02:23.804 And this is an example of how the Apple Vision Pro has helped me of locking 00:02:23.804 --> 00:02:25.064 in and saying, I'm putting this on. 00:02:25.409 --> 00:02:27.569 For work and I can be focused. 00:02:27.899 --> 00:02:35.009 Now, if you do work that is solitary and isn't involving a lot of other 00:02:35.014 --> 00:02:39.029 people, then that can be beneficial. 00:02:39.784 --> 00:02:43.024 So the locking in piece has been really great. 00:02:43.024 --> 00:02:45.279 Number two, the comfort. 00:02:46.104 --> 00:02:51.264 I've seen some people post on videos and stuff that the solo loop band 00:02:51.474 --> 00:02:54.594 that it comes with, and that is in all the marketing materials, is not very 00:02:54.594 --> 00:02:59.514 comfortable, and that the Double Loop band does make it more comfortable. 00:02:59.964 --> 00:03:02.334 Personally, I am the opposite. 00:03:02.339 --> 00:03:06.564 I find that the solo loop band is actually quite comfortable, and if I 00:03:06.564 --> 00:03:12.139 do it around the top of my skull back there, that is more comfortable to me. 00:03:12.139 --> 00:03:15.319 So that, that one works pretty well. 00:03:15.349 --> 00:03:19.399 The other one just feels like the band is too small and it digs in. 00:03:19.940 --> 00:03:23.540 So I don't particularly love that personally. 00:03:24.575 --> 00:03:25.865 So the next piece. 00:03:26.615 --> 00:03:32.644 That it is so easy to get used to having all of these windows floating around me. 00:03:33.155 --> 00:03:38.709 And I just love that because that, that contributes to the locked 00:03:38.709 --> 00:03:43.359 in feeling that I've got all this stuff around me and I, and it's all 00:03:43.359 --> 00:03:45.579 focused on work, and so I can have. 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:47.479 read wise window open. 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.699 I can have my photos open over here. 00:03:49.699 --> 00:03:51.709 I can have my notes document over here. 00:03:51.709 --> 00:03:56.599 I can have all these things all around me and be able to get to them 00:03:57.199 --> 00:04:00.319 really easily, which is really cool. 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:04.854 I've liked having multiple monitors in the past, and right 00:04:04.854 --> 00:04:06.529 now I just have one monitor. 00:04:06.589 --> 00:04:12.890 and having these different windows that fade into the background when I'm not 00:04:12.890 --> 00:04:19.880 using them is really cool because, on the Mac, when you have these other windows, 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.829 they don't fade into the background. 00:04:21.834 --> 00:04:26.270 And Apple introduced a thing called Stage Manager, which kind of moved all the 00:04:26.270 --> 00:04:30.200 other stuff out of the way, but I just haven't really been able to get into. 00:04:30.840 --> 00:04:32.760 That process myself. 00:04:33.060 --> 00:04:39.840 But with this, what I'm finding is that right now I'm in Mount 00:04:39.840 --> 00:04:45.900 Hood and I see all this beautiful scenery around me, and I can even 00:04:45.900 --> 00:04:49.350 hear the, the sounds that are there. 00:04:49.550 --> 00:04:54.260 All around me is this beautiful outdoor nature scene that I enjoy. 00:04:54.530 --> 00:04:59.030 But then I have windows and I can see through some of the windows to the nature 00:04:59.030 --> 00:05:01.550 scene and others are not as transparent. 00:05:01.910 --> 00:05:07.610 and so it's just this cool different thing and I really enjoy that. 00:05:07.610 --> 00:05:09.950 In fact, when I came down to my computer, I. 00:05:10.315 --> 00:05:15.715 earlier I looked over to the side where I thought another window was going 00:05:15.715 --> 00:05:20.515 to be, and the window wasn't there because I didn't have my vision pro on, 00:05:20.935 --> 00:05:24.460 and I was bummed because I thought, Hey, this is pretty nice to have. 00:05:25.420 --> 00:05:31.750 Here's the other piece, switching back and forth between the Mac and the. 00:05:32.380 --> 00:05:37.150 Vision Pro for typing or writing or editing documents and things like that, 00:05:37.810 --> 00:05:43.900 I can actually use the keyboard that I use from my Mac in the Notes app or 00:05:43.900 --> 00:05:48.130 other apps on the Vision Pro very easily. 00:05:48.430 --> 00:05:51.490 I just start typing and it goes automatically. 00:05:51.520 --> 00:05:55.515 I don't even know how to change that setting so that it doesn't happen. 00:05:56.995 --> 00:05:59.035 But you can use your voice on the Vision Pro. 00:05:59.275 --> 00:06:03.295 You can have a heads up display keyboard, is what I'm calling 00:06:03.345 --> 00:06:04.965 that comes up in front of you. 00:06:05.025 --> 00:06:09.285 That is close enough for you to quote unquote touch, and it actually 00:06:09.285 --> 00:06:10.875 feels like you are touching it. 00:06:11.115 --> 00:06:15.105 It's not a great keyboard, but the fact that you can touch this thing 00:06:15.105 --> 00:06:18.555 that is out in front of you that is not real, but you feel like you're 00:06:18.555 --> 00:06:21.735 touching it is really remarkable. 00:06:22.320 --> 00:06:25.380 and then you can also use the keyboard that's attached to your Mac. 00:06:25.430 --> 00:06:31.360 the productivity aspect is true, you really can use this for productivity. 00:06:31.450 --> 00:06:36.400 And like right now I am recording this through my Mac, but wearing the Vision 00:06:36.400 --> 00:06:41.950 Pro and the Mac display is right there in front of me, which is very cool. 00:06:41.950 --> 00:06:44.170 oh, lemme say this about controlling my Mac. 00:06:44.170 --> 00:06:45.610 This is incredible. 00:06:45.850 --> 00:06:48.310 I did not think that this would be as cool as it was. 00:06:48.520 --> 00:06:51.990 I've used, screen sharing software before many times. 00:06:52.260 --> 00:06:58.630 I have a headless Mac mini at home that I am always going into, via 00:06:58.630 --> 00:07:02.200 virtual, desktop types of things, and. 00:07:03.355 --> 00:07:08.125 This is just a different experience because it really is, it's 00:07:08.125 --> 00:07:12.605 like I'm really using it, but it's not a second class system. 00:07:12.605 --> 00:07:16.265 everything works how it should, I'm still using my keyboard and mouse like I 00:07:16.265 --> 00:07:23.625 normally would, and it just is a bigger screen that, has other windows around 00:07:23.625 --> 00:07:25.335 it as well through the Vision Pro. 00:07:25.605 --> 00:07:27.495 So that is amazing. 00:07:27.495 --> 00:07:33.675 I do believe in the future that there is going to be a multiple screen 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:40.095 support for your Mac computer, in this situation on the Vision Pro. 00:07:40.125 --> 00:07:42.755 And at some point that is going to happen. 00:07:42.975 --> 00:07:44.230 I really do think that's cool. 00:07:45.455 --> 00:07:49.495 The other part that's cool is being able to adjust the volume of the 00:07:49.500 --> 00:07:52.135 surrounding sounds is really neat. 00:07:52.165 --> 00:07:57.265 Also, so like when I'm on Mount Hood like I am today, I can turn my 00:07:57.270 --> 00:08:04.915 ambient noise down and not have that be quite as loud, which is also nice. 00:08:04.915 --> 00:08:07.765 Let's talk about the iPad apps for a moment. 00:08:08.590 --> 00:08:13.810 The iPad apps, if they are not designed for the Vision Pro, then they're 00:08:13.810 --> 00:08:15.820 just considered compatible apps. 00:08:16.210 --> 00:08:20.200 And I've downloaded quite a few of them apps that I use regularly, so I 00:08:20.200 --> 00:08:26.860 know how they work and it's been really interesting to see them, for example. 00:08:26.890 --> 00:08:30.790 interacting with popups in the apps can be quite challenging. 00:08:30.790 --> 00:08:33.970 So one of the apps I use a lot is called Read Wise. 00:08:33.970 --> 00:08:38.520 I do almost all of my reading in the app reader by read Wise. 00:08:38.910 --> 00:08:43.010 And this app, works pretty well. 00:08:43.730 --> 00:08:46.610 All things considered the fact that it's not even designed 00:08:46.610 --> 00:08:47.900 for the Apple Vision Pro. 00:08:48.370 --> 00:08:50.390 it works the text reading. 00:08:51.140 --> 00:08:55.010 Aspect of it is just incredible. 00:08:55.070 --> 00:08:58.970 It is so much better than reading on my iPad or my phone, 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:00.470 even though those are great. 00:09:00.500 --> 00:09:03.230 Just the reading ingesting is awesome. 00:09:03.420 --> 00:09:04.290 I just love it. 00:09:04.620 --> 00:09:09.090 The text, I can make it the perfect size for me, which is wonderful. 00:09:09.580 --> 00:09:13.600 the challenge is when I want to go take notes, which is an important part 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:17.030 of what I do, when I'm reading and. 00:09:17.915 --> 00:09:23.285 The way that you do that is you tap to tap and hold with your fingers to select 00:09:23.285 --> 00:09:29.855 something, and then you look at one of the buttons or the dots that pops up, and then 00:09:29.860 --> 00:09:34.985 you tap and drag it to highlight the whole thing, the whole paragraph, for example. 00:09:35.525 --> 00:09:41.005 Now that's not terrible, but it's also not great because the challenge 00:09:41.005 --> 00:09:44.875 is that when you want to go leave a comment, the thing that you look at. 00:09:45.295 --> 00:09:49.915 Typically on the Apple Vision Pro, the thing you look at is highlighted and 00:09:49.915 --> 00:09:52.225 you can tell what you're looking at. 00:09:53.935 --> 00:10:00.085 In the iPad apps that are not designed for Apple Vision Pro, that is not the case. 00:10:00.415 --> 00:10:04.766 And that makes it challenging because you don't know exactly what you're looking at. 00:10:05.035 --> 00:10:09.775 You don't get the feedback that you want in that situation. 00:10:10.345 --> 00:10:12.295 So that can be challenging. 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:17.110 The other thing is that as you are doing different things on those 00:10:17.110 --> 00:10:22.060 apps where it's not designed for it, the things don't always work. 00:10:22.390 --> 00:10:23.800 Just how you want them to. 00:10:25.690 --> 00:10:32.020 On that note, tapping with your fingers is incredibly intuitive and 00:10:32.110 --> 00:10:35.380 makes total sense before you even. 00:10:36.280 --> 00:10:37.270 Do anything with it. 00:10:37.690 --> 00:10:40.750 Now, in my other podcasts, I've talked a lot about my oldest 00:10:40.755 --> 00:10:42.310 daughter who has Down syndrome. 00:10:42.670 --> 00:10:50.380 She was able to understand and utilize the system right away, and I just gotta 00:10:50.380 --> 00:10:55.990 say, when I see my daughter understand how to use something right away with very 00:10:55.990 --> 00:10:59.170 little instruction, it is incredible. 00:10:59.270 --> 00:11:02.720 that just means so much to me because. 00:11:03.185 --> 00:11:06.395 Her using a computer is very challenging. 00:11:06.395 --> 00:11:07.625 She doesn't know what's going on. 00:11:07.625 --> 00:11:11.105 She doesn't know how things work, and she can do it, and she's 00:11:11.110 --> 00:11:12.395 figured out a lot of things. 00:11:12.725 --> 00:11:17.585 But her using a touchscreen device or her using this device, 00:11:17.915 --> 00:11:20.405 she figured it out very quickly. 00:11:20.705 --> 00:11:24.785 And I'll talk more about that in my episode that I released, 00:11:24.885 --> 00:11:28.125 later this week talking about how we can use this in school. 00:11:28.605 --> 00:11:32.175 Because I do think there are some really interesting use cases 00:11:33.645 --> 00:11:35.565 Very quickly, I'll just say this. 00:11:35.625 --> 00:11:43.465 My daughter was using the headset and she went from, from doing something to doing 00:11:43.470 --> 00:11:48.805 something else with very little support from me, with very little interaction. 00:11:48.805 --> 00:11:51.115 For her to be able to manage and walk through this by 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.055 herself was just really cool. 00:11:54.055 --> 00:11:55.105 and I just loved it. 00:11:56.635 --> 00:12:00.915 so anyway, productivity, yes, you can be productive. 00:12:01.015 --> 00:12:03.595 one of the other aspects of that is that you can. 00:12:04.660 --> 00:12:10.210 Basically pin your windows around in different places in your environment. 00:12:10.750 --> 00:12:15.370 So if I'm downstairs in my office and I have these windows up and I go 00:12:15.370 --> 00:12:20.230 upstairs, my windows are still downstairs in the office and I can look through 00:12:20.740 --> 00:12:23.770 the ground and see them downstairs. 00:12:24.100 --> 00:12:27.460 Here's the other thing that's crazy, this just blows my mind. 00:12:27.820 --> 00:12:30.940 I was doing a FaceTime call, left someone downstairs in my 00:12:30.940 --> 00:12:32.440 office and walked upstairs. 00:12:32.875 --> 00:12:39.295 And I could still see them through my FaceTime call, but their voice 00:12:39.295 --> 00:12:44.275 was muffled and they sounded further away because they were further away. 00:12:44.965 --> 00:12:50.275 And as you turn your head when you're talking with people in FaceTime or Zoom or 00:12:50.275 --> 00:12:54.865 whatever it is, you hear them differently based on where they're placed at. 00:12:55.255 --> 00:12:59.095 In your field of view and where you are at in relation to them. 00:12:59.095 --> 00:13:02.305 So if I, if they're on my right side, I hear 'em outta my right ear. 00:13:02.305 --> 00:13:04.405 If they're on my left side, I hear 'em in my left ear. 00:13:04.945 --> 00:13:06.805 That is, is really amazing. 00:13:07.915 --> 00:13:11.335 And the other thing that I'll say about that is that this 00:13:11.425 --> 00:13:14.185 is designed to share content. 00:13:14.515 --> 00:13:20.125 So any window that is open when you are doing a FaceTime call, has 00:13:20.125 --> 00:13:23.965 a little bar above it that says not shared, and then you just. 00:13:25.090 --> 00:13:29.590 Two finger or finger tap on that bar and it will give you the 00:13:29.590 --> 00:13:32.020 option to share it with the person that you're FaceTiming with. 00:13:32.260 --> 00:13:35.800 So from the very beginning, there are a lot of things that are built 00:13:35.800 --> 00:13:41.500 into this to be collaborative and shareable, and I think that is a 00:13:41.500 --> 00:13:45.330 really cool thing that Apple has done and I greatly appreciate that. 00:13:46.570 --> 00:13:51.630 So you pin these things up all around your environment, wherever you're 00:13:51.635 --> 00:13:53.760 at, and then they'll stay there. 00:13:53.790 --> 00:13:57.080 So you go away and you come back, you open that up again and it's there. 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:00.140 So for example, I posted this video on Twitter of using. 00:14:00.545 --> 00:14:06.335 A whiteboard in my office where I pinned it right on the wall, and then I literally 00:14:06.335 --> 00:14:08.345 wrote with my finger, touching the wall. 00:14:08.675 --> 00:14:14.355 And while doing that, it was writing on this whiteboard, in the app notability. 00:14:14.685 --> 00:14:20.025 Again, this is a iPad app that is not even updated to work with 00:14:20.025 --> 00:14:26.265 the Vision Pro, and it totally worked as a whiteboard on my wall. 00:14:26.315 --> 00:14:27.275 that's incredible. 00:14:27.435 --> 00:14:32.035 the fact that so many of these apps work right outta the box is really impressive. 00:14:32.335 --> 00:14:34.115 Again, not perfect. 00:14:34.145 --> 00:14:40.515 If you have hidden tools in, your app that you're using, then it's hard to find 00:14:40.515 --> 00:14:44.775 them if there's not the touch the screen to bring up the tools type of interface. 00:14:45.085 --> 00:14:47.545 so that, that is a challenge as well. 00:14:48.805 --> 00:14:52.655 But anyway, the fact that these work right outta the box is really incredible. 00:14:52.955 --> 00:14:54.965 So go check out that link in the show notes. 00:14:54.965 --> 00:14:56.075 Add Avision for learning. 00:14:56.125 --> 00:15:00.125 you can see that whiteboard, thing from Twitter, or X, excuse me. 00:15:01.415 --> 00:15:03.725 Alright, that wraps it up for this episode. 00:15:04.035 --> 00:15:08.415 I hope you've enjoyed this brief look into what it's like to use the 00:15:08.415 --> 00:15:10.005 Apple Vision Pro for productivity. 00:15:10.395 --> 00:15:11.055 I am. 00:15:11.740 --> 00:15:17.565 I'm very impressed by the productivity aspect of it, and really seeing different 00:15:17.565 --> 00:15:22.225 ways that I can use it, that I hadn't anticipated before I actually used it. 00:15:22.230 --> 00:15:26.755 So if you've got questions, comments, thoughts, I'm at Jethro, 00:15:26.755 --> 00:15:28.195 Jones on all the social medias. 00:15:28.195 --> 00:15:32.530 Feel free to reach out, or, Or leave a comment anywhere 00:15:32.770 --> 00:15:34.720 where you find this content. 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.720 And I appreciate you listening to a vision for learning. 00:15:37.900 --> 00:15:41.440 One of the 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