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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome to What's Good with John and Joyce
and I want to make sure

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I get this right,
so I'm going to read it right off of here.

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Now, everyone, welcome to another episode
of What's Good with John and Joyce.

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Today we're talking about something
that really could change your life.

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Having a really good friend,
not just someone to hang out with,

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but the kind of friend who sees you,
support you.

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Laughs with you.

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We've been doing a lot of laughing
before the taping today.

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Cries with you sticks around
no matter what

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and whether you've got a long time
best friend like my buddy here, JC

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or recently found someone
you feel very connected with,

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or you're still searching for that
someone, it's

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hard to believe that some people
are still searching for that.

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One dear
friend will be your friend, right?

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But we're talking about what
really matters, and that's friendship.

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When you really break it down in life,
it's all about friendship.

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You can have all the stuff out there,
Joyce.

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We talk about that all the time,

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but when it's all said and done, it's
about friends and and you know, I know

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you have a dear friend here, Sharon,
who we go back pretty, pretty far as well.

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My bestie.

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Hey, we share a friend.

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Yeah we do share a friend.

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And now you have a new friend
with my buddy James.

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Jim James.

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Talk about who owns the great Jkm
and Gilford.

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The place to go if you want to look
all nice and beautiful.

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And, he's just a great guy,
but we'll hear more about him in a bit.

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But Joyce,
we're a big believer in chivalry.

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You know that women go first,
so why don't you go first?

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Joyce? I'm with my bestie, Sharon Hunt.

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We met and

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in 1983, you guys were born then?

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Yes. Really?

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The babes in the wood.

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That's good.

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I like this episode already.

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Work it out. So.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Sharon.

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And, you know something?

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We actually met before we were friends.

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I was, a business school,

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and Sharon,
which is the same business school

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and she came in to give a talk

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about what she was doing
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is that she was working in radio
and WPA for her.

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And then a year later,

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I interviewed for a job there. Yes.

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And, I was actually so taken with you
and what you had to say.

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I don't know if I ever said that to you,
come to think of it.

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Oh, that as I was sitting.

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In the

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classroom and listening to you speak,
I thought,

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I like a job like that, you know,
I thought, she's.

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I thought you were just
the coolest person.

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So little did I know that a year later,
because I did get a job someplace else,

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that someone said, hey, there's this job
opening and maybe you should apply for it.

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And then once I met you, it was like,
oh my God, I know you.

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And we've been talking ever since.

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Wow, that is special.

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Yeah, special.

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Where are you?

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And she was in my one day.

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Oh, aloha wedding.

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And we've done a few things together.

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When you have two boys, I have two boys.

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Yeah. And, we had a coming up.

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We were really young
when we had our children.

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Yeah, we were young moms.

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We were doing this work.

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So we had that bond right away.

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And Sharon has a way of kidding me
that makes me laugh at myself.

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Two things so serious.

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And that's such a great gift.

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When somebody get you to laugh
at yourself. Gives me so much.

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Right.

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I love hanging right.

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It's like a softball over the plate.

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Right?

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And baseball.

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It's a mistake.

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That's funny,
but tell me how you met Jake.

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You know,
we go back to 1982, don't we, brother?

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And, What?

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Yeah. Well, like,
was it right? Early 80s.

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Early 80s. Yeah.

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And, we met at your salon,
I think, for the first time, you know.

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And why don't you share that story
a little bit?

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Well, I met your wife first.

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She was my client,
and she came in one Saturday morning

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and, with a couple of her lady friends,
they were all getting their hair

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done, and,

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she said, I went out with this guy
last night.

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He's.

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He's just so big.

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You know,

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are we going to do the edited
version of this podcast?

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Right. And,

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a short time later that,
we actually met,

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invited you to over to my house
soon afterwards.

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And, we've been many parties

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together, and, I remember
probably one of the best things.

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And I think that really touched us off
was when I had my high school reunion,

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I was my 25th high school reunion,
and I hired him to be the DJ for it

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and brought the house down
and was all the way out in Danbury.

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And we had such a party.
Ethan Allen did right.

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I remember,
I remember and, it was fabulous.

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Yeah. Everybody showed up and, enjoyed

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the entertainment
more than you can imagine. So.

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And he's always done that since, I mean,
after every party we've been together,

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whether or not he's, the deejay or

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just the dance party
or something like that.

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It's always been great. Always terrific.

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I, especially love lately the,

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groups at Amarante
on, the in the summer nights,

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watching the sunset
and listen to some great tunes.

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He's always been that close.

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And, lately we've been having a lot
of quality dinners together.

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He's introduced me to some friends.

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I've introduced him to some of my friends,
and it's like one big, happy family.

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You know, it really is one another.

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Quite a quite a bit amazing.

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His wife and my fiancé are like buddies.

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They keep in touch
pretty regularly, and, it's a great thing.

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And a thing I love so much about
James is I feel totally at ease with him.

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I don't feel like I'm being judged.

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I mean, I can be myself with Jake
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We've laughed. We've cried together.

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You know,
we just had so much fun over the years.

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It continues to be that way.

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But whenever Patty
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we always think James and Nikki,
James and Nikki, so many times

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we've we've gone on some trips together
and we just really enjoy that time.

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But just to be with somebody
where you can be totally yourself

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and that's so freeing, so empowering and
that and James has been a real gift to me.

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And so many years, so many ways.

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I mean, to North Carolina, hahaha. Yes.

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Yeah, I think I,

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we're going to leave that out too as well.

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Oh my goodness.

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Showing up at 530 in the morning.

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Come on. We're going to get on the floor
and do some exercise.

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I saw I don't know. Yeah. Push
ups, sit ups.

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Forget about first thing in the morning.
Yeah.

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And 6:00 in the morning.

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Then he's.

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And he's still friends.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We've been through a lot of stuff
together, and it's always been good.

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I've never had a problem
where I want to say,

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what the hell is wrong with John?

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Man, he's, He's my buddies, my friend.

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And, we've had a lot of highs and lows
together.

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You know, we want more highs,
that's for sure.

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Without question.

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Situations with, our families

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and, our also,
I said our friends already.

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So, it's always been positive.

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Always been good.
Thank you. JC now, what about you, Sharon?

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I mean,
you think about it, and, we never had and,

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you know, I.

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Yeah. You know.

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Yeah, there's and that's

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it's unusual.

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Yeah. So.

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And, yeah, I know, it's,

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sometimes I hate to say women,

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if you watch, like,
Real Housewives of catty, catty times,

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my mother used to say, no, two's company,
three's a crowd.

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And sometimes, like, someone you know

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about the other night out there,
we never met.

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I. I'm just. Someone might not be.

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Whoa.

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This is this is getting fun.

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No. Yeah.

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No. Well,

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we've had ways.

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Well, little ones, little ones.

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Yeah.

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Look,
I know they're working for to sort it out.

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Yeah, but I want to tell you something
that Sharon did when I knew

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that she was truly, like,
one of my best friends.

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And I don't know
if you remember that. That's.

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At a party at my house.

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Oh, okay.

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So it was, it was my Michael Bolton
and and friends of his.

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But it was 1985,

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so it was before the world knew that
he won the Grammy and everything.

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Sure.

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90 day back in the days of Michael Bolton.

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Yes, yes.

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Michael Bolton is, the blackjack.

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You know, it just came out
as, this stand alone Michael.

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Right, right.

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And he had just left blackjack
and then hit on their TV, fools game.

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Right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes.

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He's there.

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And and other friends are there,
and I have been, like, cooking all day.

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I was getting ill,

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and I could feel it like,

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I have asthma,
but if I get a cold, it's that I can feel

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I was getting a little feverish
and just thinking.

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You not feeling well?

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And I have all these people there now.

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And I was having difficulty breathing,
and I went

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and I sat in a room
and I was struggling with breath.

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And I remember you came in and sat

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and you said,

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none of these people here are your friends

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because they see you struggling
and you keep asking you for things.

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I would get up into, but, I mean,
I don't think you were paying attention.

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I'm never drinking.

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Go like that. Yeah.

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Going on and I, I was in a bad way.

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And you asked me if you, you kids
wanted to take me to the hospital,

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and I said, like, I can't go to hospital
with everybody here.

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But the next day, I did go to my doctor.

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He said, you should have gone
right to the hospital.

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And then I had to have,
you know, a nebulizer.

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Yeah, all of that.

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But I remember out of all those people
there, there were not.

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You knew I wasn't doing well.

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And I remember you
saying that to me, like, stop

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here.

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And you sat with me on my little bed.

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Yeah. And just let me catch my breath.

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And you even said, take your medicine,
take the inhaler and all of that.

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Well,
what a true friend who's going to tell you

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maybe some things you don't want to hear.

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Yeah,

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yeah, but I mean, you could tell

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by the people they would come in and out

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and and keep going and dancing
and hanging out.

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And the person
who invited you into their home

247
00:12:09,028 --> 00:12:09,462
isn't.

248
00:12:09,462 --> 00:12:12,465
Well, but it doesn't matter
if you're not leaving.

249
00:12:13,499 --> 00:12:15,034
I didn't get it.

250
00:12:15,034 --> 00:12:17,803
That person who cared about you wouldn't,

251
00:12:17,803 --> 00:12:21,273
you know,
they were there to have a good time. So.

252
00:12:21,774 --> 00:12:25,745
But if you're not having a good time
now have a good time in the house.

253
00:12:27,947 --> 00:12:28,781
No brainer.

254
00:12:28,781 --> 00:12:30,316
Yep. Yep.

255
00:12:30,316 --> 00:12:31,517
You did.

256
00:12:31,517 --> 00:12:31,817
Yeah.

257
00:12:31,817 --> 00:12:33,886
And that's why you guys are best friends.

258
00:12:33,886 --> 00:12:38,591
And you're exactly right again
because so many people out there

259
00:12:38,591 --> 00:12:41,694
I mean you know it's human nature
many ways they want to be around you.

260
00:12:41,694 --> 00:12:45,798
Maybe because of your title or who you are
or what maybe you can do for them.

261
00:12:46,031 --> 00:12:49,902
But a true friend is there when they know
there's nothing they can really get

262
00:12:49,902 --> 00:12:50,236
from you.

263
00:12:50,236 --> 00:12:53,038
In a way, it's just it's unconditional

264
00:12:53,038 --> 00:12:56,308
and they will tell you the hard things
at times that you don't want to hear.

265
00:12:56,809 --> 00:12:59,812
JC has done that with me in the past
and I'm sure sharing you, Joyce,

266
00:12:59,845 --> 00:13:01,380
have done that with each other.

267
00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:04,517
And that's what that's
what I'm unconditional friendship

268
00:13:04,517 --> 00:13:07,720
is about, and most relationships
are based on being conditional.

269
00:13:08,754 --> 00:13:10,556
Very few are unconditional.

270
00:13:10,556 --> 00:13:12,458
Yours is unconditional.

271
00:13:12,458 --> 00:13:15,060
James of mine unconditional.

272
00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:15,795
Yeah.

273
00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:18,864
You know, there are a lot of friendships
that are based on what I can do for.

274
00:13:19,165 --> 00:13:19,999
Yeah.

275
00:13:19,999 --> 00:13:21,500
And what it does for your health

276
00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:24,503
when you're with somebody
who makes you feel good and you laugh,

277
00:13:24,670 --> 00:13:28,073
the endorphins, the serotonin,
the dopamine, the good feeling chemicals,

278
00:13:28,407 --> 00:13:31,277
it's like when I think about JC,
I smile right away.

279
00:13:31,277 --> 00:13:31,677
Right away.

280
00:13:31,677 --> 00:13:33,779
I could be at the gym.
I could be having a tough day around.

281
00:13:33,779 --> 00:13:37,583
I think about James, my friend,
and then we're getting together for dinner

282
00:13:37,583 --> 00:13:38,083
real soon.

283
00:13:38,083 --> 00:13:40,953
I get to see him over at Amarante House
or an event.

284
00:13:40,953 --> 00:13:42,221
I feel good.

285
00:13:42,221 --> 00:13:45,224
Should I start laughing?

286
00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:47,026
That can go either way. Here.

287
00:13:47,026 --> 00:13:48,961
Yeah. Right.

288
00:13:48,961 --> 00:13:51,964
We've had some real positive times
together.

289
00:13:52,631 --> 00:13:54,066
No complaints ever.

290
00:13:54,066 --> 00:13:55,467
No, no.

291
00:13:55,467 --> 00:13:57,770
Been to his home many times.

292
00:13:57,770 --> 00:13:58,571
He shares his home.

293
00:13:58,571 --> 00:14:00,005
It's a lovely thing.

294
00:14:00,005 --> 00:14:01,941
I feel very comfortable in his house.

295
00:14:02,908 --> 00:14:06,245
His kids, the, the cats, calling Ed.

296
00:14:07,046 --> 00:14:09,849
Ed. Yeah, yeah, my boys

297
00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,016
never had kids of my own.

298
00:14:11,016 --> 00:14:12,284
So my kitty cats, you know,

299
00:14:12,284 --> 00:14:15,287
I have a beautiful stepdaughter,
but I've never had kids of my own, per se.

300
00:14:15,955 --> 00:14:18,190
But my kitty cats
and my animals have always been my kids.

301
00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:19,391
My babies.

302
00:14:19,391 --> 00:14:21,961
We. You know,
we were talking about our dogs.

303
00:14:21,961 --> 00:14:22,361
Yeah.

304
00:14:22,361 --> 00:14:25,564
We have had a small dog thing going
on, right?

305
00:14:25,798 --> 00:14:27,166
Right. Yeah.

306
00:14:27,166 --> 00:14:30,202
It's short change.
I'll see you then. Yeah.

307
00:14:30,202 --> 00:14:32,104
I wish

308
00:14:32,104 --> 00:14:34,039
I know what next time.

309
00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:35,441
Yeah.

310
00:14:35,441 --> 00:14:37,509
So, Sharon,
tell us a little bit about you.

311
00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:39,845
Let's hear
about a little about your story.

312
00:14:39,845 --> 00:14:41,914
Like the like kind of the Reader's Digest
version.

313
00:14:41,914 --> 00:14:43,182
Right?

314
00:14:43,182 --> 00:14:46,185
My three years at Yale, you know.

315
00:14:47,753 --> 00:14:47,953
Yeah.

316
00:14:47,953 --> 00:14:50,155
I retired from there about nine years ago.

317
00:14:50,155 --> 00:14:52,825
Did some traveling
with some friends, retired.

318
00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:55,828
She took an early.
Yeah, I can't wait. Yeah.

319
00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:01,433
Yeah, I've

320
00:15:01,433 --> 00:15:04,403
I've actually been I have not worked in

321
00:15:04,703 --> 00:15:07,406
just about nine years.

322
00:15:07,406 --> 00:15:08,908
You okay with that.

323
00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:12,177
I never wanted to work a day in my life.

324
00:15:12,211 --> 00:15:13,712
Real, honest.

325
00:15:13,712 --> 00:15:17,316
I never wanted a job,
but I had kids and, you know,

326
00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:21,387
like, most likely I had

327
00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:24,623
you also like jointly bought the house.

328
00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:28,060
So you're, I mean, you know,
you check the smaller quarters.

329
00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:28,494
Yeah.

330
00:15:28,494 --> 00:15:31,497
You got a lovely daughter in law a lot.

331
00:15:31,697 --> 00:15:32,965
I love your son.

332
00:15:32,965 --> 00:15:35,701
He's incredible.

333
00:15:35,701 --> 00:15:37,102
And child, which you love.

334
00:15:37,102 --> 00:15:38,003
And he loves you.

335
00:15:38,003 --> 00:15:40,739
I mean, you got a full life there.

336
00:15:40,739 --> 00:15:43,242
I do, yes, but it's not work.

337
00:15:43,242 --> 00:15:46,211
I don't want to project.
No. Right. Oh, yeah.

338
00:15:46,211 --> 00:15:49,615
Do that and come to work with you.

339
00:15:50,015 --> 00:15:52,618
And a radio station was. Yeah.

340
00:15:52,618 --> 00:15:55,721
Not only a radio station,
but my own business.

341
00:15:55,721 --> 00:15:57,222
You came away with me.

342
00:15:58,223 --> 00:15:59,725
Oh my God. Yes.

343
00:15:59,725 --> 00:15:59,925
Because.

344
00:15:59,925 --> 00:16:02,695
Because I had a business called Phantom
for you for 21 years.

345
00:16:02,695 --> 00:16:06,398
I worked with, you know, Mariah Carey,
a lot of different people.

346
00:16:06,865 --> 00:16:09,435
And it was, it was really interesting,

347
00:16:09,435 --> 00:16:13,205
but it was work that we did it
what we called hanging out with them.

348
00:16:13,739 --> 00:16:15,774
We were prostitutes.

349
00:16:15,774 --> 00:16:17,977
We were talking to the fans.

350
00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:22,414
We were, you know, if any fan wrote
that had cancer or anything,

351
00:16:22,414 --> 00:16:24,550
we would never just sell them anything.

352
00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:26,919
We would pick them up,
you know, with the celebrity.

353
00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:29,922
Yeah. So, first assignment

354
00:16:30,089 --> 00:16:33,325
was she first thing she made me do,

355
00:16:34,259 --> 00:16:36,495
I had to go get my hair done.

356
00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:39,498
Get ready. I told you, I'm going to.

357
00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:43,969
Oh. Is the best ever voice to me.

358
00:16:44,303 --> 00:16:46,038
Yeah, man. Yeah,

359
00:16:47,106 --> 00:16:51,110
I know a good buddy of mine is up there.

360
00:16:51,577 --> 00:16:53,245
Good buddy of mine as a Montana.

361
00:16:53,245 --> 00:16:55,914
Seeing that they're they're
they're still back together.

362
00:16:55,914 --> 00:16:58,384
Got touring with New kids in the block.

363
00:16:58,384 --> 00:17:00,619
So they're,
they're teaming up together. So.

364
00:17:00,619 --> 00:17:03,622
But now it's men's the men now boys.

365
00:17:04,089 --> 00:17:07,960
Well, what a great what a great,
great group were they fabulous.

366
00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:11,463
Yeah. Yeah. I mean wow.

367
00:17:11,563 --> 00:17:15,734
You know, and Jason, I'm so excited
because who was the opening.

368
00:17:15,834 --> 00:17:17,636
Oh yeah.

369
00:17:17,636 --> 00:17:21,006
And and we were sitting of course
front row.

370
00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,574
That's what.

371
00:17:22,574 --> 00:17:24,143
Right, right.

372
00:17:24,143 --> 00:17:26,445
We had you best.

373
00:17:26,445 --> 00:17:28,313
Oh good. That was my first.

374
00:17:28,313 --> 00:17:29,782
It was all of them.

375
00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:32,084
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

376
00:17:32,084 --> 00:17:32,851
Yeah.

377
00:17:32,851 --> 00:17:34,853
The problem was working with Sharon
Sheridan.

378
00:17:34,853 --> 00:17:39,591
She would come into my office and
we just would laugh and we wouldn't talk.

379
00:17:40,025 --> 00:17:42,528
And it was just how Sharon liked it.

380
00:17:42,528 --> 00:17:45,330
I don't want to work. Right? Yeah, yeah.

381
00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:46,331
Yes it is.

382
00:17:46,331 --> 00:17:48,534
It was more of that relationship.

383
00:17:48,534 --> 00:17:51,904
And then I think we both agreed
this wasn't.

384
00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:53,439
This was. It wasn't.

385
00:17:53,439 --> 00:17:56,508
This was your wasn't
one of our better, right.

386
00:17:56,508 --> 00:17:59,111
Yeah. Right. Back to you.

387
00:17:59,111 --> 00:18:00,946
What do you did. Yeah.

388
00:18:00,946 --> 00:18:02,414
I had not been to.

389
00:18:02,414 --> 00:18:04,616
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

390
00:18:04,616 --> 00:18:08,153
Well, it's good that you went to Yale
because they treat you right with tension.

391
00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:09,822
I mean, they set you up.

392
00:18:10,823 --> 00:18:11,356
You up?

393
00:18:11,356 --> 00:18:14,359
Yeah. Yeah, I do that. Yeah, yeah.

394
00:18:14,860 --> 00:18:16,862
Now JC a little bit about,
you know, your background.

395
00:18:16,862 --> 00:18:19,465
You have your own salon
in Guilford, Connecticut,

396
00:18:19,465 --> 00:18:22,034
and you've been in the beauty industry
for a long, long time.

397
00:18:22,034 --> 00:18:25,003
And what kind of led you from A to B?

398
00:18:25,003 --> 00:18:28,507
Oh, I got out of the Navy as a kid,
and my father

399
00:18:28,507 --> 00:18:31,944
had me a job at the New Haven Register
as a printer's apprentice.

400
00:18:32,611 --> 00:18:33,812
And I thought, great.

401
00:18:33,812 --> 00:18:36,815
You know, it's good future
in the printing business.

402
00:18:37,116 --> 00:18:42,054
Well, the following year,
we got our first computer,

403
00:18:42,488 --> 00:18:45,791
and this was this big thing
in a isolated, air conditioned room.

404
00:18:46,325 --> 00:18:48,060
And I thought, this is so cool.

405
00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:51,763
You know, computer and computers renewed.

406
00:18:51,997 --> 00:18:55,000
It was 1980
and they were humongous back then.

407
00:18:55,434 --> 00:18:57,603
Many of them that were huge. Yeah, yeah.

408
00:18:58,804 --> 00:19:00,005
And it had to be a,

409
00:19:00,005 --> 00:19:03,909
an air conditioned, isolated room
because it just had its air conditioned.

410
00:19:04,176 --> 00:19:04,643
Yeah.

411
00:19:04,643 --> 00:19:08,814
So and short time later
they started talking about lasers

412
00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:12,017
and scanners and I thought,
what the heck is that?

413
00:19:13,252 --> 00:19:17,156
I said, well, probably ten,
15 years from now, you may not have a job.

414
00:19:17,356 --> 00:19:18,290
Now here.

415
00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:20,726
I just got out of my time
as an apprentice.

416
00:19:20,726 --> 00:19:25,097
I had a journeyman, card to work,
but I'm still low.

417
00:19:25,097 --> 00:19:27,499
Man on the pole.

418
00:19:27,499 --> 00:19:30,002
So I had a brother in law

419
00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:33,605
that had, 
given up his job in the post office,

420
00:19:33,605 --> 00:19:36,608
and he went to hairdressing school,
and he seemed to be doing okay.

421
00:19:36,608 --> 00:19:39,011
And I thought, heck, I could do that.

422
00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:42,014
I like girls,

423
00:19:42,581 --> 00:19:42,814
really?

424
00:19:42,814 --> 00:19:44,016
No idea. Yeah.

425
00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:47,519
I went to hairdressing school in 1987,

426
00:19:47,986 --> 00:19:51,123
86 or 87, 86, I think it was.

427
00:19:51,623 --> 00:19:55,994
And I was the only male
in the class of 41.

428
00:19:56,428 --> 00:19:57,429
Oh, really? Yeah.

429
00:19:57,429 --> 00:19:59,798
And he said he liked girls. There you go.

430
00:19:59,798 --> 00:20:02,000
That part of it was cool, but,
I was married.

431
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,004
I was newly married, and, we had a child

432
00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:09,474
and actually one on the way.

433
00:20:09,474 --> 00:20:12,544
So, I was working nights

434
00:20:12,578 --> 00:20:16,114
and going to school days and consumed me,
pretty much.

435
00:20:16,114 --> 00:20:20,586
But, I enjoyed the, learning about the,

436
00:20:20,586 --> 00:20:24,556
hairdressing business, but I was the worst
one in the class of 41.

437
00:20:24,556 --> 00:20:27,459
I was the worst one.
I didn't know what gender called.

438
00:20:29,828 --> 00:20:32,598
Well, that's because you were distracted
being the only guy in that class.

439
00:20:32,598 --> 00:20:33,699
That's probably what it was.

440
00:20:33,699 --> 00:20:36,702
Yes, but I enjoyed it. And,

441
00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:40,105
my first, position

442
00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:43,075
after that was, 
working with my brother in law,

443
00:20:43,542 --> 00:20:47,246
we started our own business, 
Grand Avenue, new Haven.

444
00:20:47,479 --> 00:20:51,516
And, I was there for about a year,
but the place kept on

445
00:20:51,516 --> 00:20:55,854
getting burglarized, and,
I didn't like that very much.

446
00:20:56,421 --> 00:20:59,791
So I went to another salon, in Hamden,

447
00:20:59,791 --> 00:21:04,062
one of the more sought after salons,
in, the New Haven area.

448
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:07,432
And, Vincent Farrell, Sally beauty studio.

449
00:21:07,432 --> 00:21:10,435
Legendary was my hair. Wow.

450
00:21:11,003 --> 00:21:15,040
And, 
I was with him for about eight years.

451
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,109
I was his manager when I left.

452
00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:19,611
So, it was.

453
00:21:19,611 --> 00:21:21,346
We were very involved.

454
00:21:21,346 --> 00:21:22,581
We did a lot of traveling.

455
00:21:22,581 --> 00:21:23,515
We did a lot of,

456
00:21:23,515 --> 00:21:28,220
platform work and educational programs
to other salons and other hairdressers.

457
00:21:28,787 --> 00:21:31,590
And so, it was consuming my time.

458
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:34,793
It was, taking a lot from my marriage,
my relationship.

459
00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:39,998
So it was either move closer to work
or move work closer at home.

460
00:21:40,766 --> 00:21:44,436
So I opted to move work closer to home.

461
00:21:45,037 --> 00:21:50,075
I moved to Gilford and,
we lived in Clinton at the time, and,

462
00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:52,411
I, started working

463
00:21:52,411 --> 00:21:55,414
with a, a friend, on in Gilford.

464
00:21:55,414 --> 00:21:59,818
And I was there about a year
before I started my business in 1980.

465
00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:04,690
We started JC and me hair salon, and,
we rented a spot,

466
00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:08,160
on the Boston Post Road there,
and it was good.

467
00:22:08,727 --> 00:22:12,898
All my customers that I had in Hamden
followed me to Gilford.

468
00:22:12,998 --> 00:22:13,732
I says a lot.

469
00:22:13,732 --> 00:22:16,068
Some of them are still with me today.

470
00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:19,071
And,

471
00:22:19,404 --> 00:22:22,374
five years later, we found a building,

472
00:22:22,374 --> 00:22:25,377
and, 
we were attracted to it, and we bought it.

473
00:22:25,844 --> 00:22:30,248
The former owner was the owner of,
Guilford Beauty Shop, actually.

474
00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:34,353
And, 
she called me and knew that I was looking

475
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:37,356
for a new location
because, where we were,

476
00:22:38,590 --> 00:22:41,693
was Anthony's, restaurant building
was, expanding,

477
00:22:42,060 --> 00:22:45,063
and we weren't in his expansion plans. Oh.

478
00:22:46,164 --> 00:22:49,401
We started looking from Brantford
all the way up to Madison

479
00:22:49,401 --> 00:22:50,936
for a new location.

480
00:22:50,936 --> 00:22:54,439
And, when this young lady called me,

481
00:22:54,439 --> 00:22:58,243
we looked into it, and,
it was a good, good thing for us.

482
00:22:58,810 --> 00:23:03,148
They wanted us to lease
with an option to buy.

483
00:23:03,648 --> 00:23:06,418
But my wife was pretty smart.

484
00:23:06,418 --> 00:23:08,653
She said, no, I want to buy it.

485
00:23:08,653 --> 00:23:11,656
I looked at her and I said,

486
00:23:11,757 --> 00:23:14,326
But back in the mid 80s.

487
00:23:14,326 --> 00:23:14,993
Yeah.

488
00:23:14,993 --> 00:23:17,996
The good Lord provides
not only that, but the banks were very,

489
00:23:17,996 --> 00:23:20,999
very lenient with financing.

490
00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:24,169
So one of the banks, Bradford
Savings Bank,

491
00:23:24,169 --> 00:23:27,439
which is no longer in existence,
but not because of me, but

492
00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:32,677
had to clarify that. Yes.

493
00:23:32,677 --> 00:23:35,680
They gave us so long
and the former owners held us

494
00:23:35,947 --> 00:23:38,950
the, papers on the second part,
second loan.

495
00:23:38,984 --> 00:23:43,355
So, we bought the building,
where we are today.

496
00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:45,357
Wow. We got it.

497
00:23:45,357 --> 00:23:48,427
It out to the bare walls. We,

498
00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:53,632
completely empty the place would close it
down for six months.

499
00:23:53,865 --> 00:23:57,736
All new insulation, plumbing, electrical,
everything.

500
00:23:57,736 --> 00:24:01,006
We bought all new furniture, and,

501
00:24:01,006 --> 00:24:04,009
we invested a lot in it, and,

502
00:24:04,910 --> 00:24:07,679
my, my wife was the, manager.

503
00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:10,682
She ran the business,
and I stand behind the chair and,

504
00:24:11,149 --> 00:24:15,020
we had my first employee came
a couple of years later.

505
00:24:15,687 --> 00:24:18,457
And believe it or not,
that young lady is still with me.

506
00:24:18,457 --> 00:24:21,326
Wow. Karen?

507
00:24:22,394 --> 00:24:23,895
Yes, is,

508
00:24:23,895 --> 00:24:27,466
has been a, an asset to my life.

509
00:24:27,999 --> 00:24:30,469
And,

510
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:34,105
we, worked closely together
all these years, and it's been wonderful.

511
00:24:34,806 --> 00:24:37,809
Unfortunately, my wife didn't

512
00:24:38,009 --> 00:24:39,144
last a long time.

513
00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:42,147
She died from cancer back in oh nine,

514
00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:45,784
and, we had to,

515
00:24:45,784 --> 00:24:48,887
move on to, a new lifestyle.

516
00:24:49,554 --> 00:24:54,326
And so, we had moved at that point to,
to Guilford from Clinton,

517
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:58,296
and, things were going well, but, after

518
00:24:58,296 --> 00:25:02,033
she passed away, 
I was really kind of lost for a few years.

519
00:25:02,734 --> 00:25:07,639
And, but the business has thrived,
and it's, still going strong.

520
00:25:07,639 --> 00:25:10,709
And I love what I do. It's not work
for me.

521
00:25:11,076 --> 00:25:14,846
I enjoy what I do,
and I enjoy people for the most part.

522
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,749
No plans
and no plans for retirement. Right?

523
00:25:17,749 --> 00:25:21,586
Just like I saw Paul, like,
about two weeks ago at the casino,

524
00:25:22,153 --> 00:25:25,156
and somebody asked him
when he was going to retire,

525
00:25:25,223 --> 00:25:27,492
and he said, why should I retire?

526
00:25:27,492 --> 00:25:30,095
I love what I do, I enjoy people, he says.

527
00:25:30,095 --> 00:25:32,931
This is fun for me and people pay me.

528
00:25:32,931 --> 00:25:35,133
And I said,
those are the same words I use.

529
00:25:35,133 --> 00:25:36,234
All right.

530
00:25:36,234 --> 00:25:37,602
Yeah. So here we are.

531
00:25:37,602 --> 00:25:40,605
I have no plans for retirement.
Right. Yeah.

532
00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:45,443
Yeah I but I love hearing the story.

533
00:25:45,443 --> 00:25:48,446
I love hearing success stories
about how businesses, you know, how

534
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,617
you've been able to go through the twists
and turns and still make it resolve.

535
00:25:52,617 --> 00:25:55,620
It's all about resolve and belief.

536
00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:56,755
You know what?

537
00:25:56,755 --> 00:25:59,925
I know we have to wrap up this show,
but we do.

538
00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:02,794
We're going to come. Come back with you.

539
00:26:02,794 --> 00:26:07,499
Oh we are To talk more about friendship
and really more on a,

540
00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:11,102
a wellness

541
00:26:11,102 --> 00:26:12,671
and well-being.

542
00:26:12,671 --> 00:26:13,939
Why we need friends.

543
00:26:13,939 --> 00:26:17,275
Yes, that's
that's a real good point as well.

544
00:26:17,275 --> 00:26:17,976
So thank you.

545
00:26:17,976 --> 00:26:20,979
So much for watching another episode
of What's Good with John and Joyce.

546
00:26:20,979 --> 00:26:23,982
Sharon, really,
really wonderful seeing you again as well.

547
00:26:24,282 --> 00:26:27,752
We worked at WPLG in New Haven
back in the day to all three of us and

548
00:26:27,986 --> 00:26:29,487
Jake, so good to see you as well.

549
00:26:29,487 --> 00:26:32,290
But there will be it's
going to be continued.

550
00:26:32,290 --> 00:26:35,093
But make sure you check us out
on all the streaming platforms.

551
00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:40,632
You can catch us on YouTube, subscribe
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552
00:26:40,632 --> 00:26:45,036
I'm proudly wearing my radio shirt
since I work at the River 159 and country

553
00:26:45,036 --> 00:26:47,105
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554
00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:51,743
So until next time you know we
we pray for you, bless you and your family

555
00:26:51,977 --> 00:26:55,547
and continued health and well-being
and lots of love for you and your friends.

556
00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:56,815
Friends are so important.

557
00:26:56,815 --> 00:26:59,084
Catch you again. All the best.

558
00:26:59,084 --> 00:27:03,154
Bye. Hi, I'm John Cadillac Seville
from the podcast What's Good with John

559
00:27:03,154 --> 00:27:08,760
and Joyce and your day with a smile,
a happy thought and a grateful heart.