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[steph]: Oh my God,

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[steph]: Forgot about that one

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[roscoe]: It's the best part. It's

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[steph]: Man.

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[roscoe]: like it's totally unexpected. I love what. It's just
hard. left her at the end. Oh my God, what a great video. Welcome

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[roscoe]: back. At least late. I mean as to Rosco, Joined by stuff,
the Fatalist, and Bener, the hockey historian, as we once used

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[roscoe]: to introduce you, I think that was the first thing we
ever brought you on. as was beer, the hockey historian, So welcome.

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[roscoe]: How's it going?

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[steph]: S been

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[biehner]: It's going

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[steph]: so long.

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[roscoe]: I just felt like reminising. You know, it's sorry.

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[steph]: Yeah,

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[roscoe]: I should also add, I just came back from Boston pizza.
I had a couple of fish balls. I watched some of the game there.

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[roscoe]: I thought this is the thing we were talking about this
before we came on. I don't know how, thinking back when my dad

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[roscoe]: used to go to the bar to watch all these games that
he actually watched it, I guess because he was going alone like

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[roscoe]: we didn't have cable when I was growing up, because
I didn't have it on our street until I was like in grade five,

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[roscoe]: so we didn't have like leaves, T, V and stuff, So some
of these games were hard to Watch like now when I have to stream

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[roscoe]: them. so my dad go to this bar down the street to watch
them, and now in my twenties I'm like, How the hell do you pay

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[roscoe]: attention to the game like I don't know how you can
watch everything from the bar, but here we are, so I'm going

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[roscoe]: to

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[steph]: You

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[roscoe]: handle a

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[steph]: sit

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[roscoe]: lot of that

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[steph]: alone,

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[roscoe]: off to you sitting alone helps. I guess

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[steph]: you don't talk to anyone and you just stare at the T.
V and just glance at the bartender every time you need to refill.

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[steph]: And the way she goes, I know when I'm in a bar, there's
no freaking way when you get talking, it's nearly impossible.

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[roscoe]: When I couldn't believe, I'm not going to say which
Boston Piz. I went to M, but I have found since looking up, this

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[roscoe]: is my second time going there. It does not have great
reviews. I normally like Boston pizza from my home town of Coburg,

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[roscoe]: showed out the Boston piz. There is great. This one
Not so much. The first time we went, we got sat. I went with

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[roscoe]: my girl friend. We got sat in a corner and it was pretty
late. Granted, but as soon as we sat down, it was like a weird

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[roscoe]: section of the bar. I was Ike. They're going to forget
about is guaranteed forty five minutes. Finally, the hostess

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[roscoe]: that saw us when we first came in like noticed us in
the back corner was like I had this look of like, Oh shit, and

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[roscoe]: then immediately goes to the bar and somebody comes
over was like I I'm so sorry, so it wasn't great and this time

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[roscoe]: the thing that I noticed all of their T vs are busted
like it looks like somebody has either thrown a drink at each

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[roscoe]: one of them or they dropped Them on the way in, or they
just bought discount T vs in order to get twelve of them to fill

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[roscoe]: the fire side, because one of them had such distorted
light and beer. I know you just muted. I'll let you get to the

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[roscoe]: sports Net broadcast In a second, I thought it was just
the T vs on that, but

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[steph]: M.

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[roscoe]: there was so much distortion to the color ad there as
like dark rings and stuff like I don't know how you call yourself

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[roscoe]: a sports bar. and like there's a whole third of the
ice that was just dark like blacked out because their T vs are

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[roscoe]: broken. Like This is a sad Boston piece. A living. Please
get your ship together. Send me

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[steph]: M.

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[roscoe]: a dam, and I'll tell you which location it is

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[steph]: Oh,

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[biehner]: It is. It is also a sports bar in a town that has the
Senators as their home team.

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[roscoe]: Fun. Fact, the fishbowl I was drinking on it was called
the senator. I felt a little awkward ordering it, but it did

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[roscoe]: sound very good.

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[biehner]: Sacrilege.

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[roscoe]: I know I know, but the thisends weren't playing tonight
and be, I guess I'm alphabetically listening to things because

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[roscoe]: I'm drunk and see it tasted good.

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[steph]: Well, the only thing that's good at Boston pizza is probably
the alcohol, and I don't even think that's a real sports bar.

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[steph]: Honestly,

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[roscoe]: Okay.

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[steph]: but

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[roscoe]: Let me just

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[steph]: come on,

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[roscoe]: let me just defend B. P for a hot sec. The pizza

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[steph]: Yeah,

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[roscoe]: is pretty good. I got to say the piz, the cactus cup,
potatoes that dip, that spicy dip,

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[biehner]: The tie cut. The tie bites are amazing,

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[roscoe]: the tie, chicken bites, but so good.

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[steph]: Maybe when I was a teen ager, now that I'm a full realized
adult that chain food is nice to me.

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[roscoe]: It's not the best. but if I'm going home to Coburg,
where there are no good sports bars and like everything,

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[steph]: Fine

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[roscoe]: like the average age, there is senior, so there's no,
not much in terms of good restaurants because nobody has taste

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[roscoe]: buds anymore, So B P is pretty much the only good thing
in town. That's the one exception. so

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[steph]: Fair,

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[roscoe]: I thought I d be decent here, but honestly it's pretty
bad like the chicken was under. not under cook. That it was like

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[roscoe]: an edible, but at the point that it was supposed to
be crisp and it wasn't fries were cold. Not good. Gonna find

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[roscoe]: somewhere new. I went with the gam, My little new auto,
a leaf gang that we've put together of work people,

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[steph]: Nice.

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[roscoe]: so Southey couldn't make it tonight, but hopefully next
time, so yea it was fun, but

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[steph]: Yeah,

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[roscoe]: leaves

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[steph]: wow,

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[roscoe]: me. Lee had a good time. I had a good time. B. P was
just a little Me, and with that start the show.

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[roscoe]: Thank you, Mike Ross for that intro. If you are newer
here, that is, in fact, Mike Ross. thank you beer for hooking

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[roscoe]: us up with that. It's been a while since we've talked
about this, but I think it's worth mentioning. we've got a lot

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[roscoe]: of new listeners to the show. So the arena announce,
or Mike Ross was nice enough to record that for us, thanks to

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[roscoe]: a donation from beer, so so thank you for that

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[steph]: Fun fact, Mike Ross's three hundredth game he called
was on was last game. not tonight, but on Saturday night. So

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[steph]: kudos to him, He dodd for a long time now and now, when
I'm inside the Scotia Bank arena, it's not the same unless you

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[steph]: hear Mike Ross's voice.

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[roscoe]: Congrats,

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[steph]: O

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[roscoe]: Mike.

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[steph]: pool.

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[roscoe]: It's funny because I grew up hearing Andy Frost as

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[biehner]: Andy

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[biehner]: Frost,

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[roscoe]: of Mongan lumber

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[steph]: Yeah,

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[roscoe]: king of the woods, but it was not that I. It's always
weird changing, you know, when you're used to somebody for so

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[roscoe]: long, but Mike has just been so fantastic that it's
like it's just another great era. You know. It's handing the

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[roscoe]: torch off. It's great. I love Mike. and it's been a
fun time, But real quick

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[steph]: No,

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[roscoe]: step. You sent me a video. We got to show this because
what better way to start the game than this?

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[roscoe]: Oh bones.

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[steph]: Scro school.

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[roscoe]: All right, So Joe Ballin, Bones, calling that one, Thank
you step for sending me that. I miss hearing Joe Belan do these

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[roscoe]: games. Bene on that. Do you want to start before we
get to do it? Do you want to start with the sports night weirdness?

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[biehner]: Unless it's just me, which is very, very possible.
Um, For some strange reason, every time sports Net is showing

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[biehner]: the game something with, I don't. you're a video, guys
like Deal in the movies, and that you know now the terminology

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[biehner]: better than me. I don't know if the saturation is off
or contrast or whatever. No matter what I do to the settings

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[biehner]: on my T. v. that ice is so goddamn bright it makes
the leaf jerseys almost black. and it almost hurts Eyes to watch

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[biehner]: it like when they zoom in, everything looks normal
and then everything else. My my son playing video games. Me watching

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[biehner]: movies with the wife. Everything else is normal. It's
just the overhead play by play view on sports Net. It's absolutely

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[biehner]: ridiculous.

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[roscoe]: Yeah, it's not the first time I've noticed that I remember
there was something off with the white balance in another broadcast

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[roscoe]: that Sports Net did, Where it. Just it seems like it's
you're right. It's somewhere between contrast and saturation,

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[roscoe]: but like it's the. the. The fact that it's not differentiating
enough between. like the white of the Chicago jerseys, the white

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[roscoe]: of the ice, the white of the boards. Like it's It's
reading. It all is the same tone and just blowing it out Because

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[roscoe]: it can't. It thinks that there's a bunch of things competing
for the same space, so it's like Oh, we'll just brighten. this.

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[biehner]: I bet you any money. it's to do with the fraging board
ads.

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[roscoe]: It could be because they have to adjust to be able.
So here's a fun little thing that I learned from filming Christmas

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[roscoe]: movies. Um, I don't know if you've ever noticed, but
sometimes when you hold your camera up to light that you'll see

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[roscoe]: it flickering through the light, Because the uh, the
frame rate that the camera is shooting at is different than the

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[roscoe]: frame rate of the hurts of the light. So there's certain
Christmas lights that we can't use because they don't Up properly

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[roscoe]: on camera, like the flicker, even though to your eye
they're not, so they might have to adjust the frame rate that

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[roscoe]: they're shooting to be able to not screw it, The board
adds, And that might be affecting how other things are showing

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[roscoe]: up. I could be completely wrong. I'm not a camera person,
though I do work in film, but it could be.

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[steph]: Yeah, I don't know. I honestly thought

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[roscoe]: Oh

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[steph]: I just had sensitive eyeballs because I had laser surgery,
so everything is super bright to me sometimes, but I don't know

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[steph]: these ads and everything in between just makes it so
hard to watch. And then the cringe wore the panel after. Like

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[steph]: tonight was exceptionally bad. I don't know why. Like
some nights it doesn't bother me, but tonight I just saw a bunch

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[steph]: of complaints on Twit As well in videos of glitching
and like, How do you make it enjoyable? Especially if your teams

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[steph]: losing at least leaves one. damn.

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[roscoe]: Yeah, that's That's very strange, but on to better things
leaves opening the scoring nine seconds and William Neelander

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[roscoe]: with a beauty right off the opening. Face off this.
I was looking at the men you looked up, And this is how I knew

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[roscoe]: the game was started. Was seeing the play of this goal,
which I sure, I wasn't the only one beautiful one, and it wasn't

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[roscoe]: a long lived lead. though, so I'm gonna have you guys.
I'm going to defer to you guys a lot

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[biehner]: Oh,

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[roscoe]: for this because like I said, I couldn't hear or see
a ton of the game. Though I watch Most of it. What the hell happened?

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[roscoe]: There was a pass that should not have been made. Was
that yarn croke? Uh,

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[steph]: Yeah, it looked good in the beginning. I mean, the puck
was being flipped to center ice and your croak was going for

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[steph]: the puck, And then Um makes a blind pass to Liligran.
That's near Sammy, and does not see Laferdy coming in whatsoever,

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[steph]: Swoops in. And course there was just a really bad playmiss.

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[biehner]: The bad part about that is you can't even give him
the benefit of the doubt and say it was a blind pass. He

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[steph]: M.

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[biehner]: legitimately was looking at Liligran and still sucked
it up.

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[roscoe]: And I think it just comes down to as as many goals as
you can score. These are the things that. Yeah, you can out score

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[roscoe]: this against Chicago. but these are the things that
you got to clean up as we're getting to the end of the season

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[roscoe]: here. let's let's tighten up things that are really
really amateur like these in front of your net. Passes like guys.

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[roscoe]: Let's let's shape up for the play off. Now you've got
a. This is the thing that worries me about these easy games for

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[roscoe]: the leaf's end of the season is Yes, They had a tough
first half at first, three quarters, or two thirds, Whatever

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[roscoe]: you want to call it, and they came out with more points
than you would expect them to. I don't like that they have an

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[roscoe]: easy stretch before the play offs, because the leaves
tend to get a little

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[biehner]: Yeah,

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[roscoe]: comfy against as teams, so unless they can prove that
they're going to bring it every night, which I mean tonight they

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[roscoe]: did, But there's these little mistakes that they got
to clean up before we get out there. Because you can't do that

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[roscoe]: against Tampa. You're gonna lose the entire game. Like
you. That's something that you can't get back as easy as you

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[roscoe]: can hear, Where you can scour Another four goals. Because

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[biehner]: They don't

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[roscoe]: Peter

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[biehner]: typically

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[roscoe]: Merazi's

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[biehner]: do that against

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[roscoe]: in

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[biehner]: the

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[roscoe]: it.

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[biehner]: good teams. Though

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[roscoe]: That's why I worry that they're playing a bunch of bad
teams before they go to the playoffs Here.

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[steph]: Yeah, and you know, after all star break kind of predicted,
leaves lose a couple. So gather all the points before heading

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[steph]: into break. and by week, but hey, we got the two points
against Columbus, lost to An in the second half of the home at

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[steph]: home. Tonight got the two points. I was more worried,
you know, finding out that Morazic is, you know, Nino nine, thirteen

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[steph]: against Toronto Two O, eight goals against average, even
though he's a two and eight. It, just Like you said Johnny. It

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[steph]: gives you those P. t, s. D moments. and um, yeah, obviously,
there's a couple of leaf killers on the team. some guys who've

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[steph]: been traded in such, but tonight wasn't I don't know
the desert. The deserve O are the deserved to winnow meter. Oh

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[steph]: my God,

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[roscoe]: Mouthful,

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[steph]: nine point seven percent for Chicago.

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[roscoe]: O. I know Marty was tweeting out before. Like what does
a twenty dollar bet get me on Chicago winning eight. Nothing,

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[roscoe]: and I think the best that you found was seven. Nothing.
And what did that return? Like thirty, nine hundred and eighty

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[roscoe]: dollars or something?

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[steph]: It was three grand, So yeah, you put down twenty books
and you get twenty nine eighty

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[roscoe]: Oh

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[steph]: back.

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[roscoe]: twenty nine. It? Yeah, that's who. I mean, it's a bad
bet. But

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[steph]: Yeah,

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[biehner]: I decided to try the odds boost tonight for Matthews
and didn't quite get it.

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[roscoe]: What did you miss by one shot? Oh

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[steph]: Oh,

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[roscoe]: buddy, that sucks

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[biehner]: Yeah, odds, Bush was two points and four shots.

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[roscoe]: You like

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[steph]: No.

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[roscoe]: three. That's crazy. He's known for like six. That's
that stocks man. I'm sorry.

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[biehner]: That's all good. I'm still too chicken chip to place
any big bet, so I didn't place too much

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[roscoe]: M.

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[roscoe]: hm,

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[steph]: Another thing to note to was that you know Chicago played
last night and they got shut out for nothing against Montreal,

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[steph]: so obviously facing Toronto, they're going to be hyped
up. Everyone loves to play the leaves, and it was only I found

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[steph]: when leaves made those silly mistakes that Chicago was
able to capitalize. I mean yarncrogyou know, letting that Laferte

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[steph]: goal go ahead, but the rest like even in the second period,
the cure of goal like it just happened so quick, And the leaf

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[steph]: is pretty much dominated for the rest of the game. Um,
big difference is tonight, cur foot and yarn croak, swapping

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[steph]: positions between the or the second and third line, Justin
Hall, being a healthy scratch for the first time this season

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[steph]: being is so happy.

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[roscoe]: Uh, uh,

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[steph]: Yeah, Go is the only other guy on the team that has played
in all leaf games this season. Hall was the other

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[steph]: guy.

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[roscoe]: men wise,

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[steph]: Es.

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[biehner]: Defense man. I was going to say Marner has,

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[steph]: Yes, defender wise, and yeah, it's just I don't know.
Do we see his hall going by by or what? It's just been on my

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[steph]: mind because I have this mental battle of He's going
to be a leaf forever. The management loves him, but Uh

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[biehner]: Look at

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[steph]: scratched.

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[biehner]: the six defense men that were on the ice tonight and
look at the pairs they were in any one of those pairs I am comfortable

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[biehner]: with. in any situation, Riley, Brodie, defensive and
sure, offensive and sure go Lily anywhere on the ice. At any

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[biehner]: point in time, Sandman and Timmons, they got experience
in junior together and they've showed that they can play together

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[biehner]: at this level too, And Timmons has been incredible
since he came in.

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[roscoe]: Yeah, the only thing that I keep going back through
as much as we've talked about Justin Hall is the contract when

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[roscoe]: he's playing well, looks good. It's when he plays bad
that it doesn't matter if we're paying him league men or eight

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[roscoe]: million a year. It's just you can't have that happen
on the ice. So it's it's tough, because for I want to say, seventy

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[roscoe]: five percent of the time for two million dollars. it's
a really good deal and I think I struggle between. Do you keep

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[roscoe]: it For that and just bent him every now and then to
get into his head, because last season, those few games that

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[roscoe]: they scratched him, he came back and was great, and
I'm hoping that the same thing happens here. The other side of

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[roscoe]: it is, they could be protecting him to make sure he
doesn't get injured before trading him. So he has the upside,

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[roscoe]: Because how, because of how great his contract is and
he's a right hand of defense man, he can play second pair. I

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[roscoe]: want to say, I would now put him on the first bar anywhere.
He's second third pair defense man for two million marks.

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[biehner]: I thought you were going to say he can play seconds
instead of he can play minutes.

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[steph]: No.

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[roscoe]: it's I think at two million bucks you could get value
for him. Still, I think people like there's still enough of an

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[roscoe]: argument out there like people will still defend him,
And I think that means that there's enough g Ms that still see

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[roscoe]: interest in him to like. I think that's enough to extrapolate.
I know it's silly to say that because people on twit or still

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[roscoe]: defend him that teams are still interested, but I don't
know if anybody has an argument for it. It's not crazy to think

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[roscoe]: that there is still an argument for him being good and
useful, so I think at two million bucks if somebody wants them,

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[biehner]: Absolutely,

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[roscoe]: those. All those pairs. Make sense. I know Chris early
and I got into this a little bit about. you know, Moving Hall

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[roscoe]: in a deal for chicken, but you lose the depth, but I,
I don't see how like even the depth. After that you've got Um,

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[roscoe]: Ben, and met whatever the hell is going on with him.
I think he might still be hurt, but we have'treally heard much

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[roscoe]: about him And who else is down there Strum like. I mean,
Yeah, it

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[steph]: Yeah,

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[roscoe]: falls off pretty quick, but at least like Georgie Bend
is a good seventh defense men I have going into the playoffs.

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[steph]: Speaking

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[biehner]: Absolutely.

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[steph]: of San Den, I saw Chris Hurley tweet today I shout out,
Chris.

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[biehner]: Yeah.

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[steph]: I really appreciate your tweet. By the way they

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[roscoe]: Oh,

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[steph]: sent me

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[roscoe]: and by the way,

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[steph]: to

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[roscoe]: no

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[steph]: day.

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[roscoe]: hate

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[steph]: Oh

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[roscoe]: at all,

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[steph]: my

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[roscoe]: Chris

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[steph]: god,

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[roscoe]: all love.

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[steph]: yeah, no, he said, If the opportunity pretty much was
there for chickering for Sanden, one for one, he would personally

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[steph]: upgrade his plane ticket to first class. If that was
on the table, What do you guys think, one for one, Sanden chicken?

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[roscoe]: Oh my

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[steph]: You

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[roscoe]: God,

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[steph]: take that you take that all day long. This Sanden bias.
I don't know.

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[roscoe]: I don't really even want to answer it, because I don't
think it's a plausible offer,

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[biehner]: It's not like that wouldn't even get accepted in super
easy mode and then L. twenty three. Um, but it's

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[steph]: Oh man,

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[biehner]: for the leaf side. Yeah, you'd be stupid not to take
it as much as I love sand man. you would be. Um.

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[steph]: Yeah,

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[biehner]: I really don't want to see him move, because I do think
there's a lot of upside to him. But if you had to pick one of

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[biehner]: Sandman or Lily to move, it would hundred percent be
sand man.

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[roscoe]: So I think the conversation that I had with Chris started
on Packaging Hall for chicken, though, so I mean, like in the

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[roscoe]: event that you're bringing chicken in, that's bumping
somebody like Timmons or whoever, like out as the seventh and

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[roscoe]: then Ben becomes your eighth. So like? Really the depth
like I don't hate that at all.

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[biehner]: Not if you're packaging hall. they're basically swapping
spots. one for one.

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[roscoe]: Fair.

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[roscoe]: Yeah, you're right. Actually,

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[steph]: But Sanine is proving a good case to stays up being his
offensive side. Especially tonight. I just want to see how many

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[roscoe]: Well, sorry, no

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[steph]: four.

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[roscoe]: being, because Hall was scratched tonight and if you're
sending him out for checker and chick would chicken wouldn't

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[roscoe]: be the scratch. it would be Timmons. So you're bumping
Timmons out of the line up. So then Timmans

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[biehner]: You have

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[roscoe]: becomes

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[biehner]: a time.

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[roscoe]: your seventh and Ben becomes your eighth.

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[biehner]: Timmons was coming in and out all season anyways. Right
since we've got him.

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[roscoe]: But that's what I mean is

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[steph]: Yeah,

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[roscoe]: you don't lose like right now. Like the If you are just
sending Hall out. Yes, I don't love that. If you're bringing

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[roscoe]: a defense man in, then like your depth gets better like
there's no way that keeping hole makes your depth better. Sorry

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[roscoe]: stuff. that's just I had to

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[steph]: No worries, nor

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[roscoe]: defend

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[steph]: is

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[roscoe]: my point.

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[steph]: Sand and I love when a defender scores

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[roscoe]: Hell, yeah,

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[steph]: sanding tonight, fourth of the year, man, this face like
tonight, the first three goals for the leaves, even though one

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[steph]: got called back was right off the face off. They weren't
fucking around, you know like it happened on that first shift.

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[steph]: J. T wins the face off. Sanden steps up on the flank
and just takes the shot. He doesn't school around. It's right

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[steph]: off Murphy. Stick everyone who's advocating for Conermerfry
to become a live here you go. Here's an apple for you. But because

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[steph]: that helped us out

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[roscoe]: Oh,

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[steph]: tonight right through the five hole for Sanden, Beauty
from Tavarsare, Sorry Sanden, I'm getting it all mixed up. now

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[steph]: there's so much going on tonight. Oh man, but Marazic
completely fooled looking the opposite way. Nice,

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[roscoe]: Well, I mean it's okay. it was great. This is the thing
that I struggled with against Chicago. Is any team that's trying

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[roscoe]: this hard to lose Like I just come back to the fact
that we couldn't keep Maras as a back up goal on the contract

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[roscoe]: that he was on. And they're like great. We'll have him
as our starter. Thanks. I'm like it's so hard to take any of

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[roscoe]: this like great. You should score five goals against
this ship team they're trying to lose. But yeah, anyway,

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[biehner]: The

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[roscoe]: I'm trying not to be negative. It's just it's if this
wasn't the outcome, I'd be frustrated.

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[biehner]: I know this isn't a ship on the Black Ox episode. But
like, even if you're if you're looking at the team and thinking

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[biehner]: about doing a rebuild, why would you get rid of the
Brinketan dock?

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[roscoe]: It doesn't make sense, other than they couldn't get
cane and tapes to leave, so they just got rid of their toys and

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[roscoe]: said, Will you leave now? And that seems like a really,
really, really short sighted way to rebuild, But that's the only

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[roscoe]: logic I can pull from it is these guys would not wave
and they're still not. They could have held on to those guys

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[roscoe]: and would still be in the same spot where they're like.
We'll wait it out to the deadline.

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[biehner]: But the thing I don't get is why, Why worry about it
like they're done after this year? Anyways? their contracts are

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[biehner]: up after this year. Play it out for another year.

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[roscoe]: I think they want to try to get like. I mean they're
rebuilding. They want to get something for it Is,

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[steph]: Patrick Kane spoke to the media about it Today Actually
was mentioned. He was asked about First Kirby dog, And because

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[steph]: they played Montreal last night and he straight up said
I'm not surprised he's doing so well. What is he? twenty? one,

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[steph]: twenty, two. He was probably rushed into some things,
take time. He was rushed into the league and it's not the best

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[steph]: for your development. Then he goes on to insinuate Dillenstrome.
Brandon Hegel, Alex. To bring it, it didn't make sense to not

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[steph]: hold on to young talent in the state that the black Ox
are in. Like it just sounded like he's completely done. But like

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[steph]: even the commentators were saying on the broadcast, Even
we knew before tonight the ball is in Patrick Kane's court. He

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[steph]: kind of missed his shot with the Rangers. At his asking
price was too high. He has the hip injury, M thing that they're

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[steph]: worried about. But is he really being super picky Like?
What is his price? I wonder, because it's all on him. He has

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[steph]: the No move contract. They literally can't do anything
without his approval

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[roscoe]: I think for him it's going to be about where he wants
to go, and if he wants to help the Black Hawks out at all right

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[roscoe]: like he can try to choose something that gives them
a bit of a chance in the future to get some sort of return for

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[roscoe]: him, or he can just say Fuck you guys. You've mistreated
all of us for too long. You are watching this rebuild. and like

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[roscoe]: you said, trading away all these guys that could be
part of that, he can just say, Look, I'm gonna wait this out

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[roscoe]: and sign wherever I want to, or you're going to trade
me here for what Ever they offer you. I don't care. They can

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[roscoe]: give you a fifth for me. I'm going to. you know whatever.
L. A.

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[steph]: Here.

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[steph]: But tonight I got to say I was super impressed with Alex
Kerfoot playing on the second line. Um, his goal unfortunately

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[steph]: gets called off by a coaches challenge offside, but this
pass by Marner, Oh my god, Kirfoot had no idea it was coming

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[steph]: his way. He was completely stunned and Marner is just
putting on a gipsy doodle show and Irfoot's ready on the side.

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[steph]: And he, just like Ohshitthi, scored like fit, Ten seconds
apart from the latest goal, so lives are hyped up. not even ten

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[steph]: minutes into the first period. Fortunately gets called
back,

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[roscoe]: Yeah, So

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[steph]: but down.

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[roscoe]: that was one that? I mean, we noticed it was three one
and we're like Oh ship, like, Let's see this goal and then immediately

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[roscoe]: it goes to the coaches challenge. So how offside was
this? Because it was again, you know, hard to tell.

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[biehner]: The screen shot that they showed Cur Foot's blade was
just leaving the offensive zone edge of the blue line, as the

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[biehner]: puck was starting to cross the neutral zone edge of
the blue line. So real time it looked close enough. but once

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[biehner]: you saw that that still shot, there was no way,

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[steph]: No,

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[roscoe]: Okay

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[steph]: Yeah, it looked like a mile once you saw the pick and
you're like okay there. but

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[roscoe]: And that's fine. I'm all for Like. If it's if it's obvious
in the Re play that's fine. I just I don't like when it's you

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[roscoe]: know coming down to, we're looking at frame by frame,
Because then it's what are we doing here. So then Austin Matthews,

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[roscoe]: Oh my God, dude didn't miss a beat at all, right back
to his disgusting self, throwing this one one time or back to

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[roscoe]: three one again,

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[biehner]: But he missed the net a couple of times.

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[steph]: Yeah,

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[roscoe]: Sorry bear,

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[biehner]: Yeah,

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[steph]: Yeah, way to go for Timmons to keep the puck alive along
the boards, And you know Sanden and Matthew is a little given

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[steph]: go and knee lander, if nee lander, wasn't circling this
top point looking for Matthews, Matthews, literally wide open

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[steph]: and Ov spot

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[roscoe]: I was going to say

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[steph]: the

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[roscoe]: it's

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[steph]: number

373
00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:19,500
[roscoe]: an Ov

374
00:28:19,501 --> 00:28:19,621
[steph]: one

375
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:19,840
[roscoe]: goal.

376
00:28:19,741 --> 00:28:31,061
[steph]: spot, a sling shots that ship in man less than two minutes
in four goals. One called back no penalties. All of these goals

377
00:28:31,141 --> 00:28:40,061
[steph]: happened at even Trent, So we were just pumping. We were
going wild at this point Like this is like beginner mill on n.

378
00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:45,181
[steph]: h. L. it seemed for the leaf, in a sense for poor marazik.
Oh my God,

379
00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:50,980
[roscoe]: Yeah, I said early on like, even though that go goal
got called back, it was going to be a rough night for him because

380
00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:54,100
[roscoe]: I mean offside or not, doesn't change that he let the
goal in.

381
00:28:55,841 --> 00:29:01,201
[steph]: Shots, eighteen, fourteen for coronal to Nd the first
period. Damn

382
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:10,880
[roscoe]: Holy shit, did not get to see that. That's an awful
lot of shots for Peter Mazeric over there.

383
00:29:12,781 --> 00:29:13,101
[steph]: Pete

384
00:29:13,083 --> 00:29:13,223
[biehner]: There

385
00:29:13,201 --> 00:29:13,781
[steph]: Mazoric,

386
00:29:13,243 --> 00:29:15,543
[biehner]: was just a lot of everything going on in the first.

387
00:29:15,641 --> 00:29:15,861
[steph]: Yeah,

388
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,920
[roscoe]: Okay and then a whole lot of nothing. in the third,
I felt because I mean well, we were trying to tune in while we're

389
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,280
[roscoe]: you know, eating and drinking away. It felt like the
first two periods went really fast and the third period was like

390
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,800
[roscoe]: dragging forever. such as

391
00:29:32,821 --> 00:29:32,981
[steph]: Yeah,

392
00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:32,920
[roscoe]: me,

393
00:29:34,781 --> 00:29:41,201
[steph]: yeah, and I unfortunately missed that first goal. I didn't
realize the period came back on so quickly about watching the

394
00:29:41,261 --> 00:29:50,081
[steph]: Re. play there. Um leaves just little mess up, But they
had momentum going into the Chicago zone And then you know, Ne

395
00:29:50,141 --> 00:29:58,161
[steph]: Lander gets trapped in the neutral zone Along the boards
the puck get gets loose. Mckabechips it to do my waves for Courshop,

396
00:29:58,281 --> 00:30:04,281
[steph]: for the perfect one time, Er, T up straight in forty
seconds, Six seconds into the period.

397
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,440
[roscoe]: Assisted

398
00:30:05,141 --> 00:30:05,661
[steph]: Oh my God,

399
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,440
[roscoe]: assisted by future Leafs Dome and Mccabe.

400
00:30:09,501 --> 00:30:17,221
[steph]: Exactly what I was thinking Like this is the show these
people wanted to see. Here you go. bekaveuntil Me at work in

401
00:30:17,341 --> 00:30:25,481
[steph]: Lafordi, In the first period. Nothing from Patrick Kane,
though I heard just from seeing a little bit of Black Hawk's

402
00:30:25,641 --> 00:30:31,521
[steph]: twitter that tonight was one of the worst games he played
this season to a lot of Black Hawks fans

403
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,260
[roscoe]: Well, that's a shame,

404
00:30:34,323 --> 00:30:37,243
[biehner]: He had a little break away that I think

405
00:30:37,201 --> 00:30:37,261
[steph]: At

406
00:30:37,283 --> 00:30:37,363
[biehner]: he

407
00:30:37,301 --> 00:30:37,381
[steph]: the

408
00:30:37,423 --> 00:30:37,563
[biehner]: ended

409
00:30:37,501 --> 00:30:37,661
[steph]: end,

410
00:30:37,603 --> 00:30:42,703
[biehner]: up getting a end up getting a back hand off. but he
didn't really have much else. other than that,

411
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:51,840
[roscoe]: So I hate to rush the game, but we have a lot to talk
about before we get out of here. So to Vera's and Timmans, both

412
00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:58,120
[roscoe]: scoring to Vera's first twenty fourth Timmons, with
a second of the season, Timbitts, baby, I love this guy

413
00:31:00,881 --> 00:31:00,981
[steph]: No,

414
00:31:01,263 --> 00:31:08,623
[biehner]: What a shot to Matthew's dropping it back in. Nice,
one timer, going just just over the pad of mazeric.

415
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,820
[roscoe]: Petar Mazeric,

416
00:31:13,421 --> 00:31:17,021
[steph]: Yeah, J. T. five hundred career points on home ice,

417
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:17,880
[roscoe]: Hell,

418
00:31:17,941 --> 00:31:18,261
[steph]: Uh,

419
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,460
[roscoe]: yeah, buddy,

420
00:31:18,601 --> 00:31:25,301
[steph]: Wow, and also William Neelander hitting thirty goals
First leave to hit thirty goals on the season

421
00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:26,080
[roscoe]: At a bar

422
00:31:26,501 --> 00:31:34,361
[steph]: known. Yeah, no one expected that Austin Matthews close
twenty six. Now J. T at twenty four,

423
00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:41,260
[roscoe]: Man, they're all doing and this is what's great though
is like. Yes, it's nice when Matthews runs away with it, but

424
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:46,760
[roscoe]: the fact that they're all contributing and it doesn't
have to be him on the ice, especially this bit of time that he's

425
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,380
[roscoe]: been out, so it's gonna be a fun play

426
00:31:49,383 --> 00:31:49,463
[biehner]: Oh,

427
00:31:49,420 --> 00:31:49,520
[roscoe]: off.

428
00:31:49,523 --> 00:31:52,143
[biehner]: but the leaves have no depth. It's all Matthews and
Werner

429
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:52,900
[roscoe]: Well,

430
00:31:52,621 --> 00:31:52,641
[steph]: M,

431
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,780
[roscoe]: we'll get to that because honestly,

432
00:31:54,581 --> 00:31:54,601
[steph]: M.

433
00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:59,260
[roscoe]: the bottom six is hit and miss. We'll say

434
00:32:00,541 --> 00:32:07,841
[steph]: Yeah, and Timmons takes an interference call and says
I'm so sorry, everyone. I really shouldn't have done that and

435
00:32:08,461 --> 00:32:16,521
[steph]: big blast from the point scores, baby. this is what we
want to see. I love that all day long, Timmons, Who else with

436
00:32:16,601 --> 00:32:25,461
[steph]: a big shot like trusted on power play to, why not take
that shot at even strength when you have the opportunity, especially

437
00:32:25,561 --> 00:32:28,221
[steph]: fed by Matthews. Yes,

438
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:35,540
[roscoe]: Hell yeah, and this is worth pointing out. I think it
was Katie on last Twitter who found this and somehow nobody noticed

439
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:44,300
[roscoe]: this up until now, but with one more tonight, Mark,
er Dano, is seven blocks away from the all time n chel record

440
00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:47,260
[roscoe]: that somehow stuck under everyone's noses until today.

441
00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:49,681
[steph]: Right

442
00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:56,323
[biehner]: With an ostrich, Because then they haven't always tracked
blocks.

443
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,760
[roscoe]: When did they start tracking that?

444
00:33:00,983 --> 00:33:08,323
[biehner]: That's actually a very good question. I'm going to
hazard a guess. it would be late nineties. I'm just trying to

445
00:33:08,363 --> 00:33:09,283
[biehner]: actually pull it up here now.

446
00:33:10,701 --> 00:33:13,301
[steph]: Being, Do you know who is leading the N. h, L blocks

447
00:33:15,583 --> 00:33:17,223
[biehner]: Like active R all the time.

448
00:33:18,541 --> 00:33:21,301
[steph]: All time? I guess since they started counting,

449
00:33:24,483 --> 00:33:35,703
[biehner]: Um, Well, the first ones that would come into my head
would be what was his name for the stars? Was it Ludwig?

450
00:33:36,601 --> 00:33:36,781
[steph]: Nope,

451
00:33:38,003 --> 00:33:43,103
[biehner]: Well, that's that's the first one that comes into my
head. But he had a lot of games before they started tracking

452
00:33:43,183 --> 00:33:43,223
[biehner]: it.

453
00:33:45,181 --> 00:33:48,101
[steph]: Chris Russell, two thousand

454
00:33:47,943 --> 00:33:48,283
[biehner]: Oh yeah,

455
00:33:48,141 --> 00:33:52,921
[steph]: and forty four blocks and nine hundred and twelve games.
played our gos

456
00:33:52,443 --> 00:33:52,663
[biehner]: So they

457
00:33:53,021 --> 00:33:58,481
[steph]: at two thousand and thirty six and a thousand and seventy
eight, So not too many ahead.

458
00:33:59,060 --> 00:33:59,980
[roscoe]: Um, they haven't.

459
00:33:59,863 --> 00:34:00,003
[biehner]: That?

460
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,040
[roscoe]: They didn't start tracking them until two thousand,
five, two thousand and six.

461
00:34:04,023 --> 00:34:04,183
[biehner]: I was

462
00:34:04,161 --> 00:34:04,481
[steph]: Okay,

463
00:34:04,223 --> 00:34:07,663
[biehner]: just going to say. They don't even list it as an official
stat on N h, l. dot com.

464
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:13,420
[roscoe]: Yeah, So it was after the lock. Are they started tracking
it? It was because it wasn't really a thing before, because the

465
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:19,820
[roscoe]: obstruction of shots was so much easier, so people started
blocking like it wasn't really. I don't think anybody would have

466
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,040
[roscoe]: come close to these numbers in the old days anyway.

467
00:34:23,643 --> 00:34:32,243
[biehner]: Go watch some old Stars games with Ludwig. His shin
pads looked like one of his shin pads would probably pass as

468
00:34:32,283 --> 00:34:33,463
[biehner]: a gole pad for today

469
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,080
[roscoe]: Oh my god,

470
00:34:34,063 --> 00:34:35,143
[biehner]: because they were so wide.

471
00:34:34,961 --> 00:34:36,861
[steph]: Wow, Wow,

472
00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:43,420
[roscoe]: Yeah, I noticed that like three of the top eight people
are active players, so that kind of tells you they haven't been

473
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,780
[roscoe]: tracking it that long. I think the other ones were Mark
Edward Vilassic and Brent S Brook.

474
00:34:51,103 --> 00:34:51,123
[biehner]: I,

475
00:34:51,781 --> 00:34:51,801
[steph]: M.

476
00:34:52,423 --> 00:34:53,163
[biehner]: I could see that,

477
00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:55,640
[roscoe]: I think they were like

478
00:34:55,621 --> 00:34:56,021
[steph]: I'd have to

479
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:05,520
[roscoe]: they were like four and seven or something like that.
I remember anyway. So some things to talk about. Lots of things

480
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,740
[roscoe]: have been going on. Where should we even start here?

481
00:35:09,341 --> 00:35:10,021
[steph]: Questions.

482
00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:12,120
[roscoe]: questions? Let's start with questions. That's a great
idea.

483
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:15,860
[roscoe]: So

484
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:18,121
[steph]: So yes, leaves win five. Two. Maybe

485
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,040
[roscoe]: Okay, So this,

486
00:35:19,061 --> 00:35:20,521
[steph]: we only have a couple questions.

487
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:32,220
[roscoe]: this one from Chris Hurley, Hurley sports bottom six
of teams ahead of Toronto based on point percentage. Do we compete?

488
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:44,100
[roscoe]: So this was what I was alluding to before we've got
the bottom six of Was this Tampa, New Jersey, Carolina, and Boston,

489
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,220
[roscoe]: So we're goin to

490
00:35:45,221 --> 00:35:45,361
[steph]: Yeah,

491
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:49,040
[roscoe]: compare these to the leaves and see how we Got you guys
ready.

492
00:35:50,441 --> 00:35:50,601
[steph]: Yep,

493
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:58,280
[roscoe]: Okay, so first up, we got Tampa, third line of Nick
Paul, with Pat Maroon and Ross Colton, and then a fourth line

494
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:06,040
[roscoe]: of Pierre Edward Bell, Mar, Cory Perry and Ladislav
Mesnakov, What do we think there? What do we? What do? we rate

495
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:08,560
[roscoe]: them out of ten as a bottom six.

496
00:36:15,243 --> 00:36:23,963
[biehner]: Are we going like history and reputation, or are we
going on how they're actually performing

497
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,000
[roscoe]: How

498
00:36:24,023 --> 00:36:24,163
[biehner]: this

499
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:24,260
[roscoe]: they

500
00:36:24,203 --> 00:36:24,363
[biehner]: year?

501
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,060
[roscoe]: will perform this year in the playoffs? What are you?
What are you expecting? Tenant of ten? Obviously being like your

502
00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:36,400
[roscoe]: expectations of a third and fourth line, not like they're
going to be super stars, But you know, performing as a fantastic,

503
00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:39,220
[roscoe]: shut down and secondary or tertiary scoring.

504
00:36:42,463 --> 00:36:52,743
[biehner]: Um, tamp. I'd probably put that about. I'd probably
say seven or eight almost exclusively because of Brandon Haggle.

505
00:36:54,663 --> 00:36:57,743
[biehner]: I really like that kid. I was really disappointed when
the Leafs couldn't get him.

506
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,940
[roscoe]: Well, Hegel's on the second line In this. Imagine

507
00:37:03,863 --> 00:37:03,963
[biehner]: Oh,

508
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,040
[roscoe]: it,

509
00:37:04,003 --> 00:37:04,303
[biehner]: he wasn't

510
00:37:04,161 --> 00:37:04,401
[steph]: In the

511
00:37:04,323 --> 00:37:04,483
[biehner]: down

512
00:37:04,481 --> 00:37:04,901
[steph]: scenario

513
00:37:04,543 --> 00:37:05,263
[biehner]: on the third story.

514
00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:11,440
[roscoe]: Yeah, but I still would agree that I would give them
an eight just because Nick Paul has been a leaf killer. Russ

515
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:18,960
[roscoe]: Colton has proven himself to be a great depth scoring
option. You've got Cory Perry down there with the still effective

516
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:25,440
[roscoe]: and pain in the ass veteran presence. You know, Bell
Mar, kind of the same, and domesticov's dangerous down there.

517
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,680
[roscoe]: I think it's It's a pretty good bottom six.

518
00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:35,161
[steph]: Their top six is Hegel, Point, Kuchrov, sorely stamcoskilorn.

519
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,520
[roscoe]: Yeah, they only want like Australia and color are good.
I'm just I think that's where it's They've kind of got their

520
00:37:44,340 --> 00:37:44,620
[roscoe]: mids

521
00:37:44,661 --> 00:37:44,881
[steph]: Who's

522
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,120
[roscoe]: there.

523
00:37:45,061 --> 00:37:49,401
[steph]: injured, Sir Nack. Oh no forwards. So

524
00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:49,820
[roscoe]: They've been petty

525
00:37:49,683 --> 00:37:49,843
[biehner]: Yeah,

526
00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:50,060
[roscoe]: lucky

527
00:37:49,963 --> 00:37:50,343
[biehner]: Sarelli

528
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,400
[roscoe]: this year.

529
00:37:50,423 --> 00:37:51,063
[biehner]: just came back.

530
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:53,780
[roscoe]: Stuff. what do you think

531
00:37:53,701 --> 00:37:53,741
[steph]: I,

532
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,160
[roscoe]: of ten?

533
00:37:55,961 --> 00:38:05,441
[steph]: I honestly give them eight point five. I like this bottom
six. They have a touch of everything,

534
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,440
[roscoe]: Right?

535
00:38:06,381 --> 00:38:14,801
[steph]: Nemesticov, you know, coming from even Detroit, and being
trusted as a top six winger. It didn't like it did work, but

536
00:38:15,181 --> 00:38:24,081
[steph]: I'm surprised that he went back to Tampa and then be
Mar, and like Cory Perry, he's once Pon a time ago was very Great

537
00:38:24,161 --> 00:38:32,401
[steph]: player in this league, Right and Nick Paul, leaf killer
Ross Colton, potential leaf killer, Pat Maroon already has a

538
00:38:32,441 --> 00:38:33,341
[steph]: handful of rings.

539
00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:35,940
[roscoe]: Yeah, No kidding.

540
00:38:36,081 --> 00:38:45,121
[steph]: I don't know. It clicks for me. It's a good balance at
it. It lets the boomer shut up and there's a little skill as

541
00:38:45,181 --> 00:38:47,721
[steph]: well. I think it works for this team.

542
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:56,600
[roscoe]: Next one up, New Jersey Devil's third line. Yes, per
Bod quis, Mercer, Thomas Tar, fourth line of Michael Mc Loud,

543
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:07,200
[roscoe]: Nathan Bastion and Miles Wood. So before we get into
this H. Thomas Tar has thirty points. Dawson Mercer has Wentynine

544
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:16,800
[roscoe]: points. Michael Mc Cloud has nineteen, and Miles Woods
seventeen, So their bottom six has been quite effective this

545
00:39:16,860 --> 00:39:23,820
[roscoe]: year. Obviously, Thomas De Tar Wood, You know, he's
been a name in the league for a while, so that's kind of a cheat

546
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:31,620
[roscoe]: down there in their third line, but I mean Bokweston
Mercer. That line's been been pretty good to their fourth lines

547
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:38,160
[roscoe]: where it falls off. That's why I would probably knock
them down to like six and a half seven, but I think their third

548
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:41,240
[roscoe]: line is really good compared to most other teams.

549
00:39:44,061 --> 00:39:51,801
[steph]: Yeah, Thomas Tatar, right, like this guy used to be on
P. P. One. If he's not still and playing in the top six. Oh,

550
00:39:51,861 --> 00:40:01,161
[steph]: he is on P. P One. Right and I'm sure he's Yeah. He definitely
was traded to be in a Toxitopsix role and didn't work out that

551
00:40:01,241 --> 00:40:13,161
[steph]: well, and sharing Govich kind of broke out with the team
last year, Umboquist, Mercer. I like this bottom six. Even Bastian,

552
00:40:13,421 --> 00:40:20,921
[steph]: just a law, Rookies who have a lot of potential. Um,
and it's been working with this young team. Um. I agree with

553
00:40:20,961 --> 00:40:29,341
[steph]: your statement, Though on the fourth line Mc Cloud, even
Miles Wood, this is the type of roster where they get juggled

554
00:40:29,421 --> 00:40:34,541
[steph]: around a lot, so I think they're used to playing with
each other. That makes sense.

555
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:35,280
[roscoe]: Yeah, it's

556
00:40:35,283 --> 00:40:35,403
[biehner]: They,

557
00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:38,960
[roscoe]: not bad. It's just you know. it's not like Tampas

558
00:40:38,663 --> 00:40:45,423
[biehner]: They have. Yeah, they have played a lot of games all
over the place and you're also missing the big point here is

559
00:40:45,623 --> 00:40:47,923
[biehner]: they don't have their best player on that line up

560
00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:50,220
[roscoe]: Fair

561
00:40:50,721 --> 00:40:52,181
[steph]: Yeah, Jack hus

562
00:40:52,203 --> 00:40:52,443
[biehner]: Because

563
00:40:52,401 --> 00:40:52,961
[steph]: injured.

564
00:40:52,843 --> 00:40:53,583
[biehner]: yeah, because

565
00:40:53,561 --> 00:40:53,661
[steph]: so

566
00:40:53,643 --> 00:40:54,483
[biehner]: hues is out right now,

567
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,000
[roscoe]: Starts playing

568
00:40:57,861 --> 00:40:58,021
[steph]: Yeah,

569
00:40:57,943 --> 00:40:58,023
[biehner]: So

570
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:58,280
[roscoe]: up the

571
00:40:58,243 --> 00:40:58,283
[biehner]: I,

572
00:40:58,300 --> 00:40:58,800
[roscoe]: next one here.

573
00:40:59,563 --> 00:41:00,723
[biehner]: yeah, I would give them.

574
00:41:04,103 --> 00:41:14,743
[biehner]: I don't know. Excuse me, five and a half or six. I
really like Mercer. Um, I really like Wood and the cloud, Boakfist

575
00:41:14,843 --> 00:41:22,603
[biehner]: and Bastion. They can do their job yet again. There's
going to be some juggling around when Hues gets back and then

576
00:41:22,703 --> 00:41:30,143
[biehner]: Tatar. Can he can find himself in a ice box real quick
for long stretches like Yes, he's a veteran. He's played a lot

577
00:41:30,183 --> 00:41:33,223
[biehner]: of games, but he can go. He can go in the cool are
pretty good,

578
00:41:33,580 --> 00:41:34,180
[roscoe]: That's a good point.

579
00:41:35,881 --> 00:41:48,001
[steph]: Yeah, I would rate it lower than Tampa, of course, maybe
Six point five just because there's so much young talent and

580
00:41:48,021 --> 00:41:53,601
[steph]: they're not proven. Um, you just don't know if they're
going to fumble, even though they've had a solid solid year.

581
00:41:54,200 --> 00:42:03,560
[roscoe]: Okay, Fair enough, next up, we've got the Carolina Hurricanes
with Jordan Stallyesper, fast, Jordan Martin and Paul Stottsney,

582
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:10,840
[roscoe]: Derrick, step on and Stephan Nosin, So just because
I listed this point on the last one between Nosin, Martin and

583
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:20,240
[roscoe]: stall, twenty seven, twenty six and twenty six points,
and then Yesperfost with nineteen, Stephanos, Paul Stattsney

584
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:28,180
[roscoe]: with seventeen, and then step on Scott like eight bight.
I mean some crazy point production from. I mean Stephan Nosin,

585
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:35,800
[roscoe]: being their fourth line, left winger is the one, two,
three, four, fifth highest scoring person on the team.

586
00:42:36,741 --> 00:42:46,681
[steph]: P. P. one. Yeah, they trust him on the first power play
unit and he stuck since October. Jordan's stall, always being

587
00:42:46,741 --> 00:42:57,161
[steph]: that second or third line center. Honestly, this is probably
close to Tampa. For me, I think this bottom six works like Paul

588
00:42:57,261 --> 00:43:04,821
[steph]: Stasney, Come on, this guy played top six minutes with
Winnipeg and now he's playing fourth line with Carolina on the

589
00:43:04,941 --> 00:43:07,201
[steph]: stack team Like

590
00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:08,060
[roscoe]: Stephan Nelson

591
00:43:08,021 --> 00:43:08,061
[steph]: I

592
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:08,200
[roscoe]: has

593
00:43:08,181 --> 00:43:08,341
[steph]: give

594
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:08,580
[roscoe]: the most

595
00:43:08,381 --> 00:43:08,561
[steph]: them

596
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:09,860
[roscoe]: power play goals on the team.

597
00:43:11,081 --> 00:43:15,541
[steph]: Yes, and he's a sneaky fantasy at anyone out there

598
00:43:15,463 --> 00:43:15,803
[biehner]: Former

599
00:43:15,581 --> 00:43:15,901
[steph]: and needing

600
00:43:15,903 --> 00:43:16,203
[biehner]: Maple

601
00:43:15,961 --> 00:43:16,421
[steph]: some games.

602
00:43:16,263 --> 00:43:17,343
[biehner]: Leaf Stephan nose.

603
00:43:19,141 --> 00:43:19,221
[steph]: Oh

604
00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:19,460
[roscoe]: Yeah,

605
00:43:19,301 --> 00:43:19,521
[steph]: yeah,

606
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:20,500
[roscoe]: oh yeah.

607
00:43:24,481 --> 00:43:26,841
[steph]: I give them a nine

608
00:43:28,180 --> 00:43:30,440
[roscoe]: Really. what do you think, Ben?

609
00:43:33,223 --> 00:43:40,763
[biehner]: I'm probably going eight and a half, but that's with
a little bit of an astric that they've got two, probably two

610
00:43:40,883 --> 00:43:46,443
[biehner]: three cent centers on their third and fourth line,
and then they've got an a l r as their second line center.

611
00:43:50,301 --> 00:43:50,601
[steph]: Cooking

612
00:43:50,543 --> 00:43:50,763
[biehner]: Sorry,

613
00:43:50,661 --> 00:43:50,841
[steph]: yam.

614
00:43:51,583 --> 00:43:51,743
[biehner]: Yeah,

615
00:43:55,021 --> 00:44:00,721
[steph]: I think he's been flipped a lot between the third and
second line, but they really want to keep him in the top six.

616
00:44:01,761 --> 00:44:11,901
[steph]: Um, but Shesnikshevnikov hasn't had a super great. I
don't know. I feel like he's hasn't been living up to his potential

617
00:44:12,221 --> 00:44:15,581
[steph]: like he's been hyped up to be, but I haven't been

618
00:44:15,543 --> 00:44:15,703
[biehner]: He's

619
00:44:15,621 --> 00:44:15,901
[steph]: following

620
00:44:15,783 --> 00:44:15,803
[biehner]: a.

621
00:44:15,941 --> 00:44:17,661
[steph]: the kins closely.

622
00:44:17,463 --> 00:44:24,703
[biehner]: He's a great young power forward. But and I don't want
to rip on the whole time. But when you have when you're when

623
00:44:24,723 --> 00:44:29,423
[biehner]: you have to do that much more because your center is
not carrying their weight. right. Um,

624
00:44:29,541 --> 00:44:29,901
[steph]: Hm,

625
00:44:30,603 --> 00:44:36,443
[biehner]: The thing about the cans is, and it's been this way
forever. Is you have a team that's coached by Rod Brantamore,

626
00:44:37,183 --> 00:44:43,103
[biehner]: So everyone's going to be playing. Probably much better
than they should be. or they're supposed to be.

627
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:51,560
[roscoe]: Stephan Nose is on a league men contract this year and
next year. Fuck,

628
00:44:53,621 --> 00:44:54,221
[steph]: Um,

629
00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:55,820
[roscoe]: Uh, yeah, you know what.

630
00:44:55,601 --> 00:44:56,001
[steph]: Hm,

631
00:44:56,260 --> 00:45:03,100
[roscoe]: Now that I've heard your arguments and I mean between
your two, your third and fourth line centers are Jordan Stall

632
00:45:03,140 --> 00:45:07,080
[roscoe]: and Paul Stane, Are you joking cheat codes man?

633
00:45:08,381 --> 00:45:13,081
[steph]: Turbo also has been slacking this year. I think he's
only

634
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:13,240
[roscoe]: Oh yeah,

635
00:45:13,301 --> 00:45:21,061
[steph]: at six coals so far or something like that. He's been
a little bit of a fantasy bust, but previous years he's been

636
00:45:21,161 --> 00:45:21,661
[steph]: solid.

637
00:45:21,780 --> 00:45:22,320
[roscoe]: It's got twenty

638
00:45:22,121 --> 00:45:22,361
[steph]: He was

639
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:22,720
[roscoe]: assist.

640
00:45:22,401 --> 00:45:22,741
[steph]: definitely

641
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:22,980
[roscoe]: though,

642
00:45:22,801 --> 00:45:31,061
[steph]: one to look out for. Yeah, I just I don't know putting
up a lot of doughnuts across the step board in fantasy, so he

643
00:45:31,141 --> 00:45:33,801
[steph]: hasn't been attractive for a categories league, but

644
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:34,520
[roscoe]: I mean, Brent

645
00:45:34,521 --> 00:45:34,641
[steph]: he

646
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:34,920
[roscoe]: Burns

647
00:45:34,921 --> 00:45:35,081
[steph]: once

648
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,480
[roscoe]: has eleven

649
00:45:35,161 --> 00:45:35,341
[steph]: had.

650
00:45:35,540 --> 00:45:37,320
[roscoe]: goals and he's only got six. That hurts.

651
00:45:38,901 --> 00:45:47,281
[steph]: Yeah, he's been scoring more lately, but hey, Brent Burns,
on that first powerful unit, Bless the Sharks for Eric Carlson

652
00:45:47,341 --> 00:45:48,941
[steph]: to have the year that he is having right now,

653
00:45:50,220 --> 00:45:56,240
[roscoe]: Yeah, so honestly, I'm going to agree with you guys
somewhere between like eight and a half nine. I'm goin to say

654
00:45:56,340 --> 00:46:01,080
[roscoe]: nine. You know what I agree with you. Stuff, the mental
leadership they've got there, the veteran presence plus the young

655
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:10,740
[roscoe]: stars plus just funk, dare step on even down there.
S like call him a veteran, Then we get into the Boston Bruins,

656
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:19,940
[roscoe]: third line. Charlie Goyle, Crag Smith, Nick Feline,
Oh my God, funny enough, Nick Falinio, who also came ove In the

657
00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:26,120
[roscoe]: Stephnosan trade, will call it that the Leafs made,
And then a fourth

658
00:46:25,981 --> 00:46:26,001
[steph]: M.

659
00:46:26,180 --> 00:46:33,920
[roscoe]: line of Trent, Frederick, Yacob, Loco and a J. Greer,
guys, Uh, this is the least impressive of the four.

660
00:46:35,861 --> 00:46:44,721
[steph]: And this is the group that destroyed us last game in
Toronto. Boston Game. There, It wasn't any of the core players

661
00:46:44,761 --> 00:46:49,701
[steph]: who scored. It was the bottom six. Oh, that was a tough
game to be at.

662
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,400
[roscoe]: The ones that you got to worry about. I mean, Dangle
says that all the time, Trent Frederick, as a Boston Bruin like

663
00:46:56,900 --> 00:47:04,760
[roscoe]: from the womb, This guy was bred to be on this team.
He's a pain in the ass and is just a physical presence and a

664
00:47:04,820 --> 00:47:10,620
[roscoe]: huge, huge center. That's annoying. Nick fully knew
being on the third line. That's annoying. Other than that, I

665
00:47:10,660 --> 00:47:18,360
[roscoe]: mean, like Coil is good, but like Smith, loco and Greer,
like I know, A J. Greer had a good game against the leaps, but

666
00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:24,380
[roscoe]: he also got rocked in his By Wayne Simmons, and I don't
know if he's going to be seeing straight for the rest of his

667
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:32,620
[roscoe]: life. After that. That was scary man. So honestly like
I don't. I'm less worried about Boston's bottom six than any

668
00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:38,280
[roscoe]: of the other three. I give him like a. like a five.

669
00:47:42,181 --> 00:47:42,401
[steph]: You know

670
00:47:42,483 --> 00:47:42,663
[biehner]: That's

671
00:47:42,721 --> 00:47:43,021
[steph]: Crags,

672
00:47:42,763 --> 00:47:42,923
[biehner]: fair.

673
00:47:44,401 --> 00:47:45,161
[steph]: sorry, Ben. go ahead,

674
00:47:46,443 --> 00:47:47,103
[biehner]: No, no, it's all good.

675
00:47:49,121 --> 00:47:58,561
[steph]: Uh, Crake Smith, you know, before they got Pavel Zack,
even Taylor Hall, he was trusted in a top top six position, rotated

676
00:47:58,661 --> 00:48:05,901
[steph]: out of power, the first power play unit, and actually,
at one point was a sneaky fantasy pick. Before they acquired

677
00:48:06,021 --> 00:48:13,781
[steph]: more depth on this team, It's nice to see him in the
bottom six. Kind of like how we hope maybe cur foot or even yarn

678
00:48:13,941 --> 00:48:26,261
[steph]: Croke would work out in this scoring position. The Fourth
line. I don't even know enough to kind of judge them. Just not

679
00:48:26,361 --> 00:48:34,181
[steph]: reputable. Um, I don't really have an opinion on those
guys, but even Nick Polina, leaving leaving Columbus, Was that

680
00:48:34,221 --> 00:48:41,801
[steph]: the worst thing that's ever happened to him or the best
thing I don't know? right, Um, definitely lower end. I would

681
00:48:41,861 --> 00:48:47,841
[steph]: give them Five. six. Okay, I'm being nice with a six.

682
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:55,340
[roscoe]: Yeah, I think I'm being a little harsh. giving them
a five just because of the play that they show it against the

683
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:01,460
[roscoe]: leaves like I know they're capable and H l players.
I just think as far as the ceiling goes, I don't think it's as

684
00:49:01,540 --> 00:49:06,280
[roscoe]: high if they are all on their game as all the other
bottom sexes we've looked at.

685
00:49:09,001 --> 00:49:09,161
[steph]: Yeah,

686
00:49:09,283 --> 00:49:14,903
[biehner]: I would. I would put the Bruins bottom sex at power.
If not worse than the least bottom sex.

687
00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:19,040
[roscoe]: Yeah, I'd say it's about par.

688
00:49:21,561 --> 00:49:30,201
[steph]: I would argue that the leaves bottom six is better because
having David confess that fourth line center, a sorry third line

689
00:49:30,241 --> 00:49:39,701
[steph]: center in Pontus Homburg, Like I don't know. I really
love Homburg guys, Um, even Joe Anderson. A couple two on ones

690
00:49:39,801 --> 00:49:47,581
[steph]: today, Amburgh Anderson. they look like twins like I
can't tell them a part a part half of the time for some reason,

691
00:49:47,801 --> 00:49:55,541
[steph]: but I love the energy that they bring. Obviously they're
not Ven in this type of sense of the Tampa Bay Lightnings bottom

692
00:49:55,641 --> 00:50:01,281
[steph]: six right, We don't have a core Perry on our bottom six,
but it's working.

693
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:02,940
[roscoe]: Okay, so let's

694
00:50:02,841 --> 00:50:02,921
[steph]: Is

695
00:50:02,980 --> 00:50:03,040
[roscoe]: go

696
00:50:02,981 --> 00:50:03,021
[steph]: it?

697
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,120
[roscoe]: to

698
00:50:03,081 --> 00:50:03,241
[steph]: not?

699
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:12,020
[roscoe]: the. Let's go to the leaves. So our third line is some
combination of Camp Val and either yarn, Croker, Kerfoot, And

700
00:50:12,060 --> 00:50:26,080
[roscoe]: then your fourth line is some combination of Homburg
Astonresimmons, Anderson, whoever, Um, I don't love it. Angvallhas

701
00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:34,640
[roscoe]: been picking up finally, like you did last year. In
the back half of the season Camp is solid, but I mean like it's

702
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:42,460
[roscoe]: just hard to put David camp up against. like Jordan's
stall and Paul Statsney, You know, it's like he's not them. He's

703
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:50,700
[roscoe]: not a super star center That has all this experience
like he's good, and he's a great penalty killer and he's you

704
00:50:50,740 --> 00:50:56,720
[roscoe]: know, he's the camp fire, but I just I don't think the
ceiling and the potential and the experience is as high as some

705
00:50:56,740 --> 00:51:03,780
[roscoe]: of these other guys have had Zach Aston rise is kind
of a plug in my mind, Still And Homburg and Anderson. I don't

706
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:10,640
[roscoe]: like. I just I'm not sold on this bottom six. This is
where I think I really want dubs to spend money Like this is

707
00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:17,080
[roscoe]: what I keep coming back, though, in my mind is I'll
go through like Yeah, like Tam o Mir would be great, but I don't

708
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:22,220
[roscoe]: think the top six needs as much help as the bottom six
does when it comes to these other teams like you. You're not

709
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:28,140
[roscoe]: playing you your top six against all four lines right,
like at some point these guys are going to be out there and if

710
00:51:28,180 --> 00:51:35,740
[roscoe]: they're gonna be useless like I don't know, Matthew
Marner, Don't need help as much as you know. Anderson and Homburg

711
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:43,220
[roscoe]: need help against Feline or Statsney or Perry, Like
you know, this is what it's going to come down to. That's what

712
00:51:43,260 --> 00:51:44,800
[roscoe]: is going a be winner. losing the playoffs.

713
00:51:46,423 --> 00:51:52,303
[biehner]: What they need to do is they need to play their game
because the three names that you just listed can't skate anymore.

714
00:51:53,863 --> 00:51:59,463
[biehner]: Like no offense to them, but they're well passed their
prime and none of them were great skaters to begin with, So I

715
00:51:59,503 --> 00:52:08,383
[biehner]: know you, you were just picking names, but like Homburg
Anderson, they're young and they can move their feet. They need

716
00:52:08,423 --> 00:52:15,823
[biehner]: to. If this is going to be our bottom sex the way it
is, they need to just move their feet and play their game. And

717
00:52:15,883 --> 00:52:23,103
[biehner]: If you, If if Dubs did go out and get Meyer, well,
then he takes curfootspot on the second line. So then your third

718
00:52:23,143 --> 00:52:25,603
[biehner]: line can be camp and kurfoot.

719
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:31,600
[roscoe]: But all these bottom sixes I was talking about, there
were guys that had like there were multiple teams where there

720
00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:38,260
[roscoe]: were players in the twenty six, twenty seven point range
can re in Crocus, Twenty six curforas, twenty four, Angvall has

721
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:47,980
[roscoe]: nineteen, Camp seventeen, Homeburg, Thirteen, Aston,
rise through fifty one games has seven points and S minus five.

722
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:55,700
[roscoe]: Uh, I'm not sold on this bottom six like they haven't
been producing Like I get it. they're all solid players, but

723
00:52:55,720 --> 00:53:02,060
[roscoe]: they're not Producing the same points like there's like
we don't have a step an nosin. we don't have a Dawson Mercer

724
00:53:02,140 --> 00:53:09,560
[roscoe]: like there's no star that we're hiding down there, and
Pierre Angell is not that like the the depth guys, but there's

725
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:15,840
[roscoe]: no person that is going to be the future of the team
that we're able to throw down on the bottom because they're on

726
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:21,900
[roscoe]: a l. C. Like we don't have that in Nick Roberts, and
he's hurt. Maybe would pull up Matthew and I later. Maybe he

727
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,920
[roscoe]: gets shipped out of the deadline. I don't know, but
it's still a question.

728
00:53:26,863 --> 00:53:27,183
[biehner]: Uh,

729
00:53:27,921 --> 00:53:32,821
[steph]: What we do know is that Wain Simmons cleared wavers today,

730
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,280
[roscoe]: Hello man,

731
00:53:33,361 --> 00:53:41,801
[steph]: So yea, we still have them. Dubs has that flexibility
through deadline to move him up and down through the line up

732
00:53:41,921 --> 00:53:51,421
[steph]: to the marls Without you know having that cap hit and
yeah, just more flexibility. Who knows. I'm literally. My pop

733
00:53:51,501 --> 00:54:01,201
[steph]: corn is expiring like we've been ready to hear it, and
the speculate And just gets to your mind after a while. And yeah,

734
00:54:01,581 --> 00:54:11,081
[steph]: Justin whole scratch tonight does. Is that symbolizing
something? Is it just a penalty for playing like ship on Saturday

735
00:54:11,401 --> 00:54:13,101
[steph]: or who knows

736
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,720
[roscoe]: Either one I'm happy with because I think he performs
well after he's healthy scratched. and if they're trading him,

737
00:54:17,740 --> 00:54:23,860
[roscoe]: they're trading him because there is value in him. Still,
I think so, I think I know there is value in his contract being

738
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:32,200
[roscoe]: two million and right hand of defensement, and all that.
So either outcome, I'm kind of okay with That was a twenty something

739
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:37,000
[roscoe]: minute question. So there are a couple other things
I do want to touch on before we get out of here. Announced today,

740
00:54:37,660 --> 00:54:42,660
[roscoe]: Diamond Sports Group, the subsidiary of Sinclair Broadcast
Group, which

741
00:54:42,763 --> 00:54:42,943
[biehner]: Oh,

742
00:54:43,060 --> 00:54:51,860
[roscoe]: You are unfamiliar, to sum it up real quick, if you
ave ever seen one of those montages of a bunch of local news

743
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:58,060
[roscoe]: casters saying the exact same thing because it sounds
like they're all reading a script Because they are. That is Sinclair

744
00:54:58,140 --> 00:55:06,320
[roscoe]: Broadcast Group. They bought up a bunch of W, K, P,
X or W. X, r, C. Buffalo and Seattle, and all these local stations

745
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:15,040
[roscoe]: to push a bunch of their crazy narratives. They are
like, like if you Not to get political, but they are like a mile

746
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:23,060
[roscoe]: and a half further right than foxes, and they have been
disguising themselves as local news and just spewing their ship

747
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,340
[roscoe]: everywhere they.

748
00:55:24,541 --> 00:55:24,681
[steph]: How?

749
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:33,040
[roscoe]: When Disney bought Fox, because Disney owns S. p. N.
they can't also own Fox Sports, so that was dissolved into a

750
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:40,320
[roscoe]: whole separate entity that Sinclair Broadcast Group
bought, and, in partnership with Bally Sports, Bolly Casinos,

751
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:46,820
[roscoe]: turned into the Bally Sports channels. What was formerly
Fox Sports in the States is now Bally Sports, So they have been

752
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:54,480
[roscoe]: broadcasting all the majors, whether it's M, l, b, n
b, a n h, L. And today they were do a hundred and forty or hundred

753
00:55:54,520 --> 00:56:01,100
[roscoe]: and thirty hundred, forty million dollar interest payment
on their loan and they missed it, which is the first sign that

754
00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:08,260
[roscoe]: a company is about to file for bankruptcy. So what that
means for the major sports world is that all of these games mid

755
00:56:08,340 --> 00:56:15,160
[roscoe]: season are just going to be essentially up for grabs,
like they might have a have Auction between like n B C and an

756
00:56:15,260 --> 00:56:20,340
[roscoe]: Amazon and everybody to see who's going to pick these
up Because this is mid season. They're all of a sudden going

757
00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:26,200
[roscoe]: to have no broadcast or so. if anyone caught on Twitter,
there was an emergency Board of Governors meeting with the N.

758
00:56:26,340 --> 00:56:31,740
[roscoe]: h L. today to try to figure out what to do about this.
Like these guys have stakes in in stadiums, they have stakes

759
00:56:31,820 --> 00:56:40,000
[roscoe]: in in broadcasting Like it's It's huge. This is like.
If I know, it's tough to think about here because we only have

760
00:56:40,060 --> 00:56:46,360
[roscoe]: sports net in t. s. n. but it's like if there was another
one All of a sudden, like it just disappeared one day, and Tsan

761
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:52,860
[roscoe]: sports and had to pick up all the slack for them, So
that's kind of what's what's going on there in a nutshell. It's

762
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,240
[roscoe]: crazy.

763
00:56:56,623 --> 00:57:03,083
[biehner]: It definitely is, And you say T, s N sports, and picking
up slack for someone else, they can't even pick up their own

764
00:57:03,163 --> 00:57:03,423
[biehner]: slack.

765
00:57:03,380 --> 00:57:10,360
[roscoe]: I know it's It's impossible to make a comparison Because
like there are regional broadcasters there like depending on

766
00:57:10,420 --> 00:57:15,260
[roscoe]: where you are you, you know eastern West Coast. You
might have a different broadcaster and you know Amazon and Apple

767
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:23,280
[roscoe]: and all these guys have broadcasting now, and I think
in Canada were just still so stuck in the you know late nineties

768
00:57:23,340 --> 00:57:29,360
[roscoe]: are only two thousands where it's like you know there's
the sports networks and they hold all the rights. So that's it.

769
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:38,240
[roscoe]: And because Rogers spent, did you guys? do you Know
that Roger spent more money for ten years of the N h. L than

770
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,020
[roscoe]: Disney spent to buy all of Lucas Arts?

771
00:57:45,181 --> 00:57:45,201
[steph]: M.

772
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:52,020
[roscoe]: I think it was like nine or ten billion dollars Rogers
spent to get ten years of Hell broadcasting, and to buy all of

773
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,080
[roscoe]: Star Wars, all of Indiana Jones, Everything, Disney
spent seven billion.

774
00:57:58,401 --> 00:57:58,601
[steph]: Wow,

775
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:05,660
[roscoe]: I think that's a really bad deal If you ask me for Rogers,
like I know, you get the broadcasting rights and it's like a

776
00:58:05,740 --> 00:58:15,100
[roscoe]: thing that you can then sell off to C, B, C and n, t,
s. N. But like, I'm pretty sure, one Disney movie of Star Wars

777
00:58:15,180 --> 00:58:22,740
[roscoe]: made more than that money back. Like, like just owning
the rights to all the like to sell the toys and ship like they

778
00:58:22,780 --> 00:58:27,620
[roscoe]: made their money back tenfold. It's crazy step.

779
00:58:27,441 --> 00:58:27,941
[steph]: That's crazy.

780
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,440
[roscoe]: You want to Switch gears over to Socker?

781
00:58:33,001 --> 00:58:40,721
[steph]: Yeah, sorry, I don't know much about the Broad Road casting
world and T V writes and stuff. All I know is that I'm pitching

782
00:58:40,781 --> 00:58:45,161
[steph]: and complaining when we can't get what we want to watch
so

783
00:58:45,580 --> 00:58:52,520
[roscoe]: I was. actually, when we went to Boston pizza, we sat
down for a second. I was like, Wait, is the game even going to

784
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:58,280
[roscoe]: be on here? Like? Is it blacked out An auto? Can we
not watch it like? And that actually hit me for a second? Then

785
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:04,200
[roscoe]: what was crazy Was it was. The pre game was on the t,
s n t Vs. But then the game came on on the sports and that one

786
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,060
[roscoe]: and I was like. What's going on?

787
00:59:08,921 --> 00:59:20,621
[steph]: Well, Yeah, so big things in the news that may be isn't
covered as you know, microscopically as you want. In this sense,

788
00:59:20,741 --> 00:59:30,781
[steph]: because Canada Socker just announce that they made significant
cuts to the national team programs that includes men, women,

789
00:59:31,281 --> 00:59:40,961
[steph]: youth, Um, all of the programs for twenty twenty three
M. This has led Two significant cuts towards the training camps.

790
00:59:41,181 --> 00:59:49,741
[steph]: All the preparation that the women's team is preparing
for. They qualified last year to go to the World Cup, pretty

791
00:59:49,801 --> 00:59:58,481
[steph]: much the biggest tournament of their lives thus far.
With less than six months notice that they will not get a training

792
00:59:58,561 --> 01:00:07,241
[steph]: camp. They will not get a home game. They will have to
count how many staff members participate in all of these, And

793
01:00:07,461 --> 01:00:15,221
[steph]: just crazy craziness. So pretty much Christine Saint
Clair and team, If anyone forgets who Christine Saint Clair is,

794
01:00:16,461 --> 01:00:24,801
[steph]: she is the world's old time leader for international
goal scored for men, in or women, with a hundred and ninety goals

795
01:00:24,901 --> 01:00:33,161
[steph]: so far, so every time you see those little mems and such
a Rinaldo, and all these male players, people forget Christine

796
01:00:33,201 --> 01:00:40,861
[steph]: Saint Clair holds these records. but since she's a woman,
it doesn't Publicized as much. But anyways, the team has stood

797
01:00:40,921 --> 01:00:51,761
[steph]: together to take a stand and declared that they were
striking. Um. They're like this is very unfair. Um. Pretty much

798
01:00:52,461 --> 01:01:01,921
[steph]: Um. citing that if they want to be treated as world class
athletes with all of these high expectations, but the platform

799
01:01:01,981 --> 01:01:10,801
[steph]: isn't given to them. The equity that they promote isn't
being up to Par hasn't been met. And then they put on the stand

800
01:01:10,961 --> 01:01:18,461
[steph]: right and thought it's going to be this big thing. Kind
of felt like this was their last resort. Important to note, they

801
01:01:18,541 --> 01:01:25,901
[steph]: have not been paid for their twenty twenty two work at
all. So far, Canada, Socker actually just released a statement

802
01:01:25,961 --> 01:01:33,161
[steph]: saying that they've paid one point seven mill. Who knows
if it's the transaction has happened yet, But even that, one

803
01:01:33,221 --> 01:01:38,881
[steph]: point seven million dollars for all of the team and the
staff Has to be split up anyways.

804
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:40,380
[roscoe]: What I find?

805
01:01:40,181 --> 01:01:40,821
[steph]: Canada sucker,

806
01:01:41,620 --> 01:01:41,980
[roscoe]: what I find

807
01:01:41,941 --> 01:01:42,201
[steph]: go ahead,

808
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:50,020
[roscoe]: crazy is that it seems like just my uneducated guest
that they blew a ton of money to get the guys to the World Cup,

809
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:58,800
[roscoe]: and then when we did not budget properly, when that
is crazy, Because the men have been to the World Cup, Who, twice

810
01:01:59,460 --> 01:02:07,480
[roscoe]: and the women have been. They have only not qualified
the first time in nineteen, ninety one. They have been ninety

811
01:02:07,540 --> 01:02:15,420
[roscoe]: five, ninety nine, o, three, o, seven, And uh, two thousand,
eleven, fifteen and nineteen, and now twenty three. So it seems

812
01:02:15,580 --> 01:02:22,620
[roscoe]: like, And this is just me. They should be getting more
of the money because they have a shot.

813
01:02:24,563 --> 01:02:26,223
[biehner]: They won the Olympic gold.

814
01:02:27,161 --> 01:02:27,341
[steph]: Yeah,

815
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:28,240
[roscoe]: Yeah,

816
01:02:28,503 --> 01:02:28,663
[biehner]: They,

817
01:02:29,140 --> 01:02:29,500
[roscoe]: I'm just

818
01:02:29,423 --> 01:02:29,543
[biehner]: they

819
01:02:29,540 --> 01:02:29,780
[roscoe]: looking

820
01:02:29,603 --> 01:02:30,123
[biehner]: have. Actually,

821
01:02:29,860 --> 01:02:31,020
[roscoe]: at World Cup appearances

822
01:02:30,783 --> 01:02:30,943
[biehner]: Yeah,

823
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,240
[roscoe]: here. but like Yeah, Olympics

824
01:02:31,903 --> 01:02:32,163
[biehner]: but like

825
01:02:32,540 --> 01:02:32,880
[roscoe]: aside,

826
01:02:33,163 --> 01:02:37,403
[biehner]: they have actually accomplished something. No offense
to the men, but the women have actually accomplished something

827
01:02:37,423 --> 01:02:45,983
[biehner]: and they're getting treated like dirt like the Canadian
Soo Federation blew a ton of money trying to get friendlies with

828
01:02:46,103 --> 01:02:54,683
[biehner]: I ran in Panama last year, which didn't even end up
getting played And they're making all these cuts now and there's

829
01:02:54,723 --> 01:03:03,263
[biehner]: not a current deal in place to talk about compensate,
And the women haven't been paid for last year yet Like it's It's

830
01:03:03,503 --> 01:03:04,603
[biehner]: absolutely ridiculous.

831
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:05,600
[roscoe]: So I want

832
01:03:05,521 --> 01:03:05,781
[steph]: Yeah,

833
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:06,780
[roscoe]: go ahead stuff.

834
01:03:07,801 --> 01:03:15,681
[steph]: um, Just to speak of the men last year, the men like
you said being also went on strike ahead of the friendly match

835
01:03:15,741 --> 01:03:24,501
[steph]: with Panama. over a dispute, players compensation, the
men's national team relaced this statement, saying that Canada

836
01:03:24,621 --> 01:03:32,981
[steph]: succor has consistently refused, or blaney ignored our
players associations requests for access to his financial records,

837
01:03:33,641 --> 01:03:40,481
[steph]: and they have demanded Explanation to what has happened
to the millions of dollars that they should be receiving each

838
01:03:40,521 --> 01:03:48,101
[steph]: year from sponsors and other sources alone. So that was
already a thing in June. So what? the women? Now, they qualified

839
01:03:48,221 --> 01:03:55,901
[steph]: for the World Cup, But men obviously didn't qualify last
year. Right? The women has this high high expectation. They strike.

840
01:03:56,901 --> 01:04:04,901
[steph]: Canada, Sucker comes right back at them and says your
strike is completely unlawful. If you continue to do this and

841
01:04:05,061 --> 01:04:14,761
[steph]: no Play the game against the U. S. on Thursday, we will
start a law suit and pretty much threatened if they do not return

842
01:04:14,841 --> 01:04:22,341
[steph]: to work, Um, they would take legal action that will equal
millions of dollars and damages from their players association

843
01:04:22,541 --> 01:04:31,341
[steph]: and from each player in the camp. So as a risk, like
these girls, they haven't been paid yet. they obviously are forced

844
01:04:31,461 --> 01:04:39,961
[steph]: back into work. They have to say, Okay, You're literally
track. Ping us into this like there's no option. Do you give

845
01:04:40,021 --> 01:04:46,321
[steph]: up your career Because you're pissed and there's obviously
inequality right now. There's no equity which this federation

846
01:04:46,741 --> 01:04:50,801
[steph]: preaches Or do you do what they say and just hope for
the best?

847
01:04:52,483 --> 01:05:02,383
[biehner]: Well, the federation has been so incredibly mismanaged
like in twenty eighteen they signed a deal with Canada or Canadian

848
01:05:02,483 --> 01:05:09,063
[biehner]: socker business, And that's the group of owners who
own all the teams in the Canadian Premier League, which is like,

849
01:05:09,403 --> 01:05:16,103
[biehner]: basically a step down from the M L. S. still very good
socker. But the twenty year deal that they signed signed away

850
01:05:16,323 --> 01:05:22,643
[biehner]: all broadcast unit sponsorship money, in exchange for
a flat payment of three to four mil In a year,

851
01:05:25,703 --> 01:05:25,923
[biehner]: All

852
01:05:25,961 --> 01:05:26,121
[steph]: Wow,

853
01:05:26,063 --> 01:05:33,003
[biehner]: broadcasting and sponsorship money. So now that there
is a women's team that is a gold medal winner at the Olympics

854
01:05:33,183 --> 01:05:39,303
[biehner]: and potential World Cup winner, and you have the men's
team going to the World Cup. You have all the sponsorship money

855
01:05:39,363 --> 01:05:41,363
[biehner]: coming in and they get none of it.

856
01:05:43,741 --> 01:05:44,321
[steph]: Just bizarre.

857
01:05:44,940 --> 01:05:55,680
[roscoe]: So I know I brought up Bill C Leven with regards to
Canada making broadcasting for sports accessible. You guys both

858
01:05:55,700 --> 01:06:00,040
[roscoe]: take a drink as soon as I say Sal, I love that it's
like All right. I'm getting into a political rant Here. you guys

859
01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:01,160
[roscoe]: are like, Oh God, I need a drink,

860
01:06:01,581 --> 01:06:02,781
[steph]: Oh God, where's my babe?

861
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:12,200
[roscoe]: so I brought this up in regards to Canada, protecting
accessibility to viewing our national sport of Hawke, by not

862
01:06:12,500 --> 01:06:24,940
[roscoe]: letting sports net in Bell block out games for different
regions. This is bigger than that. Some of the most unpopular

863
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:34,380
[roscoe]: branches of the Canadian government are Hawke, Canada,
Skate, Canada, Canadian sucker. Whatever there, the Canadian

864
01:06:34,420 --> 01:06:43,320
[roscoe]: Soccer Federation and our basketball program. they are
some of as far as government branches that interact with civilians.

865
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:53,200
[roscoe]: The closest they are, so Of the least popular and least
trusted and worst managed government arms we have. our basketball

866
01:06:53,260 --> 01:07:00,460
[roscoe]: team is borderline like, non competitive, like the amount
of people that we've contributed to, even the N B A over the

867
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:08,540
[roscoe]: last you know, thirty years is kind of embarrassing
for how much the U S has done right below us here. H, and the

868
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:15,020
[roscoe]: fact that we've let the States catch up to us so quickly
and hock, and just the scandals and everything that Come out

869
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:20,860
[roscoe]: around Hawke, Canada and I know some figure skaters
that are like Skate Canada is literally a joke. Like it's in

870
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:27,780
[roscoe]: the same vein of like the amount of controversy and
mismanagement. and and like it's it's just crazy that now it's

871
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:37,420
[roscoe]: it's into socker to that like, instead of trying to
okay, I don't know if you guys know and this goes to our listeners.

872
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:46,680
[roscoe]: Like how long it takes something to go through the Senate
and House of Commons in Canada, But the amount of discussion

873
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:51,980
[roscoe]: they've had around Bill C. eleven is unprecedented and
shout out to, There's a tuber who's covered a ton of this and

874
01:07:52,060 --> 01:07:57,140
[roscoe]: has been called into Parliament, actually ran into him
here. not a whit when he was talking about J. J. Michel, out

875
01:07:57,180 --> 01:08:03,780
[roscoe]: of Vancouver. This has been tabled off the top of my
head. I want to say, like thirty something times they've talked

876
01:08:03,820 --> 01:08:09,560
[roscoe]: about this bill and they've brought in people. Both
sides have brought in people to argue it, And they're spending

877
01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:16,360
[roscoe]: so much time and so much effort to try to figure out
how to regulate how videos show Up on line from Canadian creators.

878
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:22,720
[roscoe]: Meanwhile, all around this is all managed and I know
this sounds like a stretch to compare these things. but this

879
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:29,340
[roscoe]: is all managed by the same Heritage Canada branch. Like
the way that our government is structure is very strange, so

880
01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:37,240
[roscoe]: the Canadian Heritage Committee handles everything from
sports to music to culture. Anything that is identified as Canadian

881
01:08:37,340 --> 01:08:44,540
[roscoe]: culture they are in charge of, So this all falls under
them, and they are spending so much time worrying about the Internet

882
01:08:44,860 --> 01:08:53,280
[roscoe]: And letting every single sport just go to ship around
them. And this is insane that it's we're supposed to be going

883
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:58,720
[roscoe]: to the world's stage with all these sports And it's
like we can have a couple of good teams here and there, but it's

884
01:08:58,740 --> 01:09:04,300
[roscoe]: almost like luck at this point that these people are
are good because the programs aren't doing the many favors.

885
01:09:06,021 --> 01:09:14,881
[steph]: Yeah, literally, the women are simply asking for this
federation to live up to their public commitment to gender equity,

886
01:09:15,521 --> 01:09:23,981
[steph]: and for this national governing body to advance the sport,
not drag it down. so essentially we want to grow this in the

887
01:09:24,061 --> 01:09:31,941
[steph]: sport in this country. Obviously having the men's team
participate in the World Cup. Look how much exposure that brought

888
01:09:32,081 --> 01:09:40,581
[steph]: right, Like if the women were high lighted on the same,
Treated like world class as they deserve to be treated. I mean,

889
01:09:41,481 --> 01:09:52,241
[steph]: we are so lucky to have a Canadian who is decorated world
class for as many goals, Christine Saint Clair, you know, countless

890
01:09:52,341 --> 01:10:00,941
[steph]: medals, like I'd be here all day if I read her accomplishments
right. It's just bizarre to me and bizarre to them. And what

891
01:10:01,021 --> 01:10:05,221
[steph]: else do they do? Right? Like striking is kind of like
your final straw,

892
01:10:07,660 --> 01:10:07,800
[roscoe]: Yeah,

893
01:10:07,801 --> 01:10:14,901
[steph]: Like just blow it up. Just have to. I don't know. Like
where are these records? Where where are all these? The sponsorship

894
01:10:15,001 --> 01:10:15,661
[steph]: money going?

895
01:10:15,660 --> 01:10:15,800
[roscoe]: All

896
01:10:15,761 --> 01:10:15,901
[steph]: like,

897
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,420
[roscoe]: of these organizations need a leadership change and
on that

898
01:10:19,601 --> 01:10:19,821
[steph]: Yes,

899
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:28,840
[roscoe]: the last. the thing that I want to end with here is
it's kind of older news, but the n. h, l, p. A is set to announce

900
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:38,760
[roscoe]: their new director finally, after what seems like because
it has been a year search. So did you guys hear who they have

901
01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:39,340
[roscoe]: selected?

902
01:10:41,101 --> 01:10:41,221
[steph]: No,

903
01:10:42,940 --> 01:10:53,340
[roscoe]: This is kind of crazy beer. Do you see this one? So
the U S Secretary of Labor, Marti Walsh, So literally, somebody

904
01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:59,740
[roscoe]: from Bidon's Cabinet, who is currently the sitting U
S Secretary of Labor, is leaving his post to come and be the

905
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,940
[roscoe]: director, executive director of the N. H. L. Players
Association. So this is

906
01:11:05,141 --> 01:11:05,281
[steph]: What.

907
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:15,660
[roscoe]: kind of. it seems like a somebody over qualified, But
what's worth Is this person is not a lawyer and this is the first

908
01:11:15,740 --> 01:11:22,660
[roscoe]: time that the director of the N. P. A is not somebody
with a legal background. This is somebody that is a politician

909
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:33,660
[roscoe]: who fights for labor rights. So this is from non legal
and more policy standpoint. This is going to be interesting because

910
01:11:33,700 --> 01:11:41,440
[roscoe]: this is the person that has to negotiate with Garry
Bettman on a regular basis. This is someone whose life is law

911
01:11:42,020 --> 01:11:48,900
[roscoe]: against someone Whose life is politics, and it's going
to be kind of a. I don't know how this is going A go, Because

912
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:55,420
[roscoe]: he's not going to be a lawyer. That's going to try to
outlawyer him, and Betman just gets to say I'm the better one,

913
01:11:55,540 --> 01:11:59,640
[roscoe]: like they're going to play a completely different hand
against each other, and I'm interested to see where this goes

914
01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:01,520
[roscoe]: for the next major negotiations.

915
01:12:02,301 --> 01:12:09,081
[steph]: They probably already made a deal. That's why he got
in like scratching each other's back somehow. And and now he's

916
01:12:09,281 --> 01:12:09,401
[steph]: in.

917
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:16,500
[roscoe]: Well, Betman can't have anything to do with it, And
he like all he said was you know. I'm all I can say is you know

918
01:12:16,540 --> 01:12:21,860
[roscoe]: I work with whoever the players decide to pick, because
it's it's the person that's representing all the players right.

919
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:23,240
[roscoe]: So he, he has to stay out

920
01:12:23,223 --> 01:12:23,383
[biehner]: Yeah,

921
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:29,060
[roscoe]: of it, And it's supposed to be the person that's speaking
on their behalf when it comes to all these you know, labor, like

922
01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:35,920
[roscoe]: when it came to negotiations about Scro for the covidpayments
and everything, and how the players are still sitting here with

923
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:42,860
[roscoe]: a frozen cap and still paying money back while the owners
are making exactly as Mac Money, not more actually more than

924
01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:49,400
[roscoe]: they were before. So you know it's those kind of negotiations
that might go differently now that somebody else is in charge,

925
01:12:49,460 --> 01:12:55,780
[roscoe]: and somebody that has been doing this from the White
House essentially is standing up to these different kinds of

926
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:03,060
[roscoe]: lawyers and union leaders, whatever it may be, to make
sure that workers are getting the best, so I think it's good,

927
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:10,900
[roscoe]: but again, he's not a lawyer, so I think that's even
strange to be the secretary of labor Without being a lawyer.

928
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:11,980
[roscoe]: But we'll see.

929
01:13:15,281 --> 01:13:25,081
[steph]: Yeah, uh, weird thing that. I'm just crossing my mind.
I'm gonna think loud. I'm on the left n h site looking

930
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:25,180
[roscoe]: Hm.

931
01:13:25,161 --> 01:13:33,321
[steph]: at the leader board and Jack Campbell appears with a
nine, twenty one safe percentage and seventeen wins. But the

932
01:13:33,381 --> 01:13:38,441
[steph]: other starts are accurate right now. So or no, No, maybe
they're not.

933
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:39,260
[roscoe]: What are

934
01:13:39,181 --> 01:13:39,201
[steph]: I

935
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:39,360
[roscoe]: you

936
01:13:39,301 --> 01:13:39,421
[steph]: don't

937
01:13:39,420 --> 01:13:39,720
[roscoe]: doing?

938
01:13:39,441 --> 01:13:46,361
[steph]: know they are. Yeah, it's a current stots. I don't know.
it's weird current starts, but Jack Campbell's included

939
01:13:46,540 --> 01:13:47,000
[roscoe]: Strange?

940
01:13:47,421 --> 01:13:48,681
[steph]: baby. It's a sign

941
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:52,380
[roscoe]: Okay,

942
01:13:52,481 --> 01:13:52,501
[steph]: M.

943
01:13:52,560 --> 01:14:00,080
[roscoe]: Well, since we're out of here, I'm going to take two
seconds to just tell everybody to yell at your M. P's about stopping

944
01:14:00,340 --> 01:14:05,400
[roscoe]: bills. Eleven, It passed though the Senate two weeks
ago. This is the dumbest thing that government has tried to push

945
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:15,260
[roscoe]: through. Basically the too long didn't read of what
this means is how do I send this up quick. Basically it would

946
01:14:15,780 --> 01:14:23,180
[roscoe]: implement an algorithm on the Internet in Canada to
push what the government deems as cana And content up higher

947
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:30,820
[roscoe]: above other things, and well on the surface. That sounds
like a great idea. Um, what it does with? I know I might have

948
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:36,720
[roscoe]: talked about this already, but what it does is the effect
that it has on music in Canada already where radio stations have

949
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,360
[roscoe]: to play a certamout of Canadian music Is. If you go
to the States, they go. Yeah, but they have to play you, so it

950
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:50,620
[roscoe]: de values it. So you are maybe boosting somebody for
the you know small audience that is in Canada, but you are hurting

951
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:58,340
[roscoe]: them being discovered on World stage Canadian utubers
posting content that doesn't get deemed Canadian content because

952
01:14:58,380 --> 01:15:02,660
[roscoe]: they're not talking about something that's Canadian
enough for them. We'll get buried. So

953
01:15:02,581 --> 01:15:02,601
[steph]: M,

954
01:15:03,420 --> 01:15:09,340
[roscoe]: you know the fact that we're talking about the leaves.
Yeah, that will get pushed. but say there's say we were podcast

955
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:17,620
[roscoe]: here that we're penguins fans that would get buried.
So it's It's not fair. It's not conducive to how the Internet

956
01:15:17,700 --> 01:15:23,800
[roscoe]: works and nobody needs this. The government does not
need to step in and effect how People find things on the Internet.

957
01:15:23,860 --> 01:15:30,040
[roscoe]: In Canada. they should have no effect on how things
show up and in search feeds. Nobody should I know there are things

958
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:35,280
[roscoe]: that affect that, but you know the government definitely
shouldn't be one of those things, So if you didn't know about

959
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:40,120
[roscoe]: this, it's something they're sneaking through a pass
through the Senate. It's now to the House of Commons, they've

960
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:46,440
[roscoe]: should tend of amendments on it, and today the Kabec
government unanimously voted against it, saying that this is

961
01:15:46,540 --> 01:15:51,000
[roscoe]: stupid. They just basically not voted against it, but
saying like, Put something forward, saying that we are not okay

962
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:59,560
[roscoe]: with this, So It's been extremely controversial. Both
sides are are not really okay. I watched a bit of an argument

963
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,860
[roscoe]: on it where they brought different people in. Like I
said, There was a Canadian outuber, J. J, who was arguing for

964
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:12,100
[roscoe]: the conservative side the Liberals had in basically
just the c, b C, and some other broadcasters who obviously are

965
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:19,760
[roscoe]: biased and have no interest in what happens online.
They just want to have their stuff. Their shows presence on the

966
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:27,500
[roscoe]: Internet be pushed up. so yeah, Kind of not in any individual
person's interest. Yeah,

967
01:16:27,581 --> 01:16:27,601
[steph]: M,

968
01:16:28,220 --> 01:16:34,720
[roscoe]: anyway, I'm just thrown down there because people in
Canada need to know that this is going on. So if you have any

969
01:16:35,580 --> 01:16:41,380
[roscoe]: interest in how things like entertainment in culture
and politics work in Canada, speak out about this because it's

970
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:47,040
[roscoe]: stupid right and call your M. P and saying no, No, No
Cool.

971
01:16:47,221 --> 01:16:47,581
[steph]: Do that

972
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:47,980
[roscoe]: thanks.

973
01:16:48,281 --> 01:16:50,041
[steph]: and support women's sports.

974
01:16:50,420 --> 01:16:56,920
[roscoe]: Yeah, that too. always. When are we starting our women's
with a P. h. F. fantasy league?

975
01:17:01,181 --> 01:17:01,641
[steph]: Um,

976
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,960
[roscoe]: I don't even know what their season time line is, so
I don't. Did they launch that

977
01:17:04,861 --> 01:17:05,101
[steph]: I don't

978
01:17:05,060 --> 01:17:05,280
[roscoe]: apple

979
01:17:05,141 --> 01:17:05,341
[steph]: know.

980
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:06,120
[roscoe]: in the middle of the season?

981
01:17:07,823 --> 01:17:07,983
[biehner]: Yeah,

982
01:17:08,220 --> 01:17:10,780
[roscoe]: Yeah, that's tough. Okay, so maybe we'll

983
01:17:10,741 --> 01:17:10,761
[steph]: I

984
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:10,860
[roscoe]: get

985
01:17:10,801 --> 01:17:10,961
[steph]: don't

986
01:17:10,900 --> 01:17:11,000
[roscoe]: into

987
01:17:11,001 --> 01:17:11,141
[steph]: know.

988
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:11,480
[roscoe]: it for next year.

989
01:17:11,421 --> 01:17:13,481
[steph]: Yeah, Yeah, next next season,

990
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:13,900
[roscoe]: Okay,

991
01:17:14,141 --> 01:17:14,361
[steph]: that'd

992
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:14,300
[roscoe]: Well,

993
01:17:14,401 --> 01:17:14,861
[steph]: be really fun.

994
01:17:15,980 --> 01:17:18,320
[roscoe]: any hawke history or anything we wanted to touch on?

995
01:17:20,003 --> 01:17:28,523
[biehner]: Nothing crazy unless you were, Unless you weren't watching
the broadcast They talked about it on on this state back in nineteen

996
01:17:28,563 --> 01:17:30,883
[biehner]: twenty seven, Con Smith bought the maple leaves.

997
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:39,740
[roscoe]: Oh, wow, The one thing that I just kind of wanted to
briefly talk about. If we guys don't mind five minutes or less.

998
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:49,700
[roscoe]: Why, in a year where the Montreal Canadians have no
business winning, did they put all of their young stars in for

999
01:17:49,780 --> 01:17:59,260
[roscoe]: them all to get hurt, Because now they are down off
field Slavkovsky, Jack and Guly. I know two of those guys are

1000
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:08,400
[roscoe]: like twenty two, and you can't just keep them out. But
why A is this happening to them right now? Like the fact

1001
01:18:08,341 --> 01:18:08,541
[steph]: They're

1002
01:18:08,420 --> 01:18:09,100
[roscoe]: that Slevkosky,

1003
01:18:08,561 --> 01:18:09,441
[steph]: just getting crushed.

1004
01:18:09,540 --> 01:18:17,440
[roscoe]: The fact that Lefkofsky and gooliis there silly are
there is silly. But Jack, breaking his hand in a fight is doing

1005
01:18:18,260 --> 01:18:26,280
[roscoe]: nobody any good. Um, and Kofffield getting hurt like
funk man. This is not what they need when they're trying to get

1006
01:18:26,340 --> 01:18:27,600
[roscoe]: ready for the next couple of years.

1007
01:18:30,021 --> 01:18:37,561
[steph]: I think Jack. I caught a lot of attention. Started being
a banger in this league. I'm sure he came in hard, heavy hitter,

1008
01:18:37,921 --> 01:18:47,461
[steph]: just like his brother, who's in junior. Still. Um, but
he learned the hard way right. Think you can't punch your way

1009
01:18:47,521 --> 01:18:54,661
[steph]: out of every single problem Because this happens and
unfortunately, this game today is way too fast for that to be

1010
01:18:54,721 --> 01:19:02,421
[steph]: happening all the time, or else you just don't get to
play like the guy, don't You're wrong, love wife, I, for what

1011
01:19:02,461 --> 01:19:09,761
[steph]: I've seen so far, but it's going to be like you can get
more situation or something like. You don't want him hurt all

1012
01:19:09,961 --> 01:19:10,621
[steph]: of the time.

1013
01:19:11,140 --> 01:19:19,840
[roscoe]: I totally thought that they drafted. Pardon me, They
just drafted Jack, But they did not.

1014
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:23,060
[roscoe]: He's

1015
01:19:22,981 --> 01:19:23,001
[steph]: M.

1016
01:19:23,460 --> 01:19:26,840
[roscoe]: twenty two year old, who did not go in the twenty

1017
01:19:26,881 --> 01:19:26,941
[steph]: He

1018
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:26,980
[roscoe]: or

1019
01:19:26,981 --> 01:19:27,061
[steph]: was

1020
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,240
[roscoe]: twenty

1021
01:19:27,121 --> 01:19:27,641
[steph]: undrafted.

1022
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:33,380
[roscoe]: one? Yeah, nineteen or twenty and twenty or twenty one
draft. He hadn't go ahead because they showed that thing. Wasn't

1023
01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:39,700
[roscoe]: it like when they picked Lavkofsky, He was like excited
because they played together. Wasn't it them? or was it him and

1024
01:19:39,740 --> 01:19:39,980
[roscoe]: Goole?

1025
01:19:41,241 --> 01:19:42,701
[steph]: No, it was another draft pick

1026
01:19:43,940 --> 01:19:44,040
[roscoe]: Oh

1027
01:19:44,083 --> 01:19:46,203
[biehner]: Um, yeah, it was the

1028
01:19:46,141 --> 01:19:46,881
[steph]: From this class.

1029
01:19:47,943 --> 01:19:50,443
[biehner]: younger kid, another Slovakian that Montreal picked,

1030
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:51,400
[roscoe]: Gotcha. See.

1031
01:19:51,441 --> 01:19:51,601
[steph]: Yeah,

1032
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:56,100
[roscoe]: that's I had it in my head that it was Jack. So I've
always like all season. I've been like. Oh, yeah, he's new this

1033
01:19:56,140 --> 01:19:58,820
[roscoe]: year because nobody knew about him till this year.

1034
01:20:01,001 --> 01:20:10,581
[steph]: Jack does have an interesting story, though, Um, his
parents came as refugees from Corsovo and got him into and his

1035
01:20:10,621 --> 01:20:19,901
[steph]: brother were into Hawke immediately, But just his story
of turning pro and Um, he also had a second job. Was he the kid

1036
01:20:19,981 --> 01:20:22,421
[steph]: who had cost co hours right and

1037
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:22,700
[roscoe]: Yeah,

1038
01:20:22,941 --> 01:20:28,161
[steph]: his manager had? No, I didn't believe that Hawke was
more important than

1039
01:20:28,660 --> 01:20:29,260
[roscoe]: Then casto.

1040
01:20:29,021 --> 01:20:37,301
[steph]: working at Casco, Right, And I didn't believe Hell pro
like at the level he was, But yeah, just a funny story. If anyone

1041
01:20:37,341 --> 01:20:45,101
[steph]: has time to look that up, he came from nothing and he
turned himself to something which I really appreciate just a

1042
01:20:45,501 --> 01:20:49,201
[steph]: type of story where he wasn't handed everything as a
child. It seems

1043
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,700
[roscoe]: Those stories and sports always blow my mind because
sports are so expensive to get into and so many of them become

1044
01:20:54,820 --> 01:21:01,000
[roscoe]: family dynasties. Like you know, generations that have
access to scouts and to trainers and things. And then I know

1045
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:08,360
[roscoe]: this is over to basketball, but you hear things like
um, An, as Ontentacumpo, who, like him and his brothers were

1046
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:17,140
[roscoe]: like, are the streets of Athens, selling like you know,
watches, and cologne and stuff, and then get thrown onto some

1047
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:24,120
[roscoe]: like high school team and then all of a sudden there
Like intent to compose the best player you know, like wood, top

1048
01:21:24,180 --> 01:21:26,340
[roscoe]: five, top three in the n. B A like it's crazy

1049
01:21:28,061 --> 01:21:28,221
[steph]: Wow,

1050
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:35,900
[roscoe]: And these guys like Up until like we did the math, I
went on a school trip in two thousand eleven to Greece, and we

1051
01:21:36,060 --> 01:21:44,240
[roscoe]: figured that Ontenticobo was still then on the streets
like selling ship while I was in high school, and now he is in

1052
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,640
[roscoe]: the N. B. A, and one of the best players

1053
01:21:47,641 --> 01:21:55,841
[steph]: Hitting super stars. You know that don't have access
to the means. I saw the Instagram reel of a father shooting beer

1054
01:21:55,941 --> 01:22:03,481
[steph]: bottle caps at his son know, hitting them with a baseball
bat. He was shooting them with a sling shot From. It seemed like

1055
01:22:03,641 --> 01:22:07,741
[steph]: so far like a mile away, that kid was hitting every single
cap.

1056
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:08,620
[roscoe]: That's crazy,

1057
01:22:08,521 --> 01:22:15,741
[steph]: No problem. it was very impressive. It wasn't close at
all. either. yah,

1058
01:22:15,900 --> 01:22:17,240
[roscoe]: Have to alert the sling shot leagues.

1059
01:22:18,463 --> 01:22:18,943
[biehner]: Uh,

1060
01:22:18,801 --> 01:22:19,001
[steph]: Right,

1061
01:22:19,303 --> 01:22:19,343
[biehner]: uh,

1062
01:22:20,381 --> 01:22:21,581
[steph]: the Caps leagues remember

1063
01:22:21,340 --> 01:22:21,720
[roscoe]: Yeah, man,

1064
01:22:21,621 --> 01:22:21,921
[steph]: that game.

1065
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:32,520
[roscoe]: but honestly, it's just it blows my mind that the circumstances
can even come together for somebody to get into. you know, finding

1066
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:37,720
[roscoe]: a league to play and finding the next league up to play
and finding an agent. finding you know, like all these things

1067
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:46,180
[roscoe]: that have to line up that basically get handed to you
if you have money or be, have the family in it. And see, I like

1068
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,020
[roscoe]: listening things when I'm drunk alphabetically.

1069
01:22:52,341 --> 01:22:55,301
[steph]: Well beaters, like Go home, Johnny. You're drunk.

1070
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:55,840
[roscoe]: Yeah, man,

1071
01:22:56,161 --> 01:22:56,861
[steph]: Time for bed.

1072
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,680
[roscoe]: okay, guys, thank you all.

1073
01:22:59,063 --> 01:22:59,483
[biehner]: Uh.

1074
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:06,900
[roscoe]: Follow us everywhere. join us on this cord. All that.
thanks for sending the message, Chris. That took us. I loved

1075
01:23:06,980 --> 01:23:11,860
[roscoe]: it. That's that's why I wanted to get through everything
because I knew we had to set some time at aside for that, so

1076
01:23:12,860 --> 01:23:14,140
[roscoe]: thank you, thank you, and we'll see Ou next time.

1077
01:23:16,541 --> 01:23:16,881
[steph]: I'm already.

1078
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:44,180
[roscoe]: Uh?