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      "body": "This is the Transform Your Teaching Podcast. The Transform Your Teaching Podcast is a service of the Center for Teaching and Learning at Cedarville University in Cedarville, Ohio. Welcome to the"
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Transform Your Teaching Podcast. My name is Jared Pyles. With me is Dr. Rob McDole. We are taking a break in between our various series that we do to and we've done some behind the scenes stuff before, and here's yet another episode looking behind the scenes of the podcast. And with us today is our user experience and editor at the CTL, but also she plays a big role in the podcast, Lauren Eisler."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Welcome back, Lauren Eisler."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Thank you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Yes. Thanks for Welcome. Thanks for coming back on."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "I'm glad to be here today."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "And we both said thank you at the same time, so you need to simultaneously thank us if possible."
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    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Okay."
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    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "That worked."
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    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "And go."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Thank you. Thank you."
    },
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Okay. That's perfect. There you go."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "Alright. Yes. Welcome, Lauren. It's it's great to have you here. Again, earlier, when we when we did this the first time, we didn't really get into this and I wanted to this time, which is just give us a little bit of your background where you went to school."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "I know that we know where you went to school, but tell our listeners where you went to school, what what program did you do, and how does that fit in with what you're doing here at CTL?"
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "So I attended Cedarville University in the journalism program, studied convergent journalism, which I think technically that major isn't listed under that name anymore because, you know, it was a hot second ago that I was a student. And I ended up doing a lot of editing work through that. I had an entire minor in editing and publishing and then most of the minor in interactive web design by the time I graduated slash a year and a half after when I was taking additional credits. So the editing and the interactive web design tied in very well to the editor and the user experience design aspects of my job. The Webminer was where I started doing UX for the first time."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "And that was where I had those courses. And I went, oh, I like this one. So eventually, we put that more into my job description because it wasn't what I started within the CTL."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. And that, like I mentioned, and I think I said this in the previous time you're on, you were the most tenured employee of the CTL. So in that early stages, there was a lot of web specific content where websites were created for each course and"
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "not They just"
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "were all websites. And not just a canned, because there was no nice little LMS that we have."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "No. I didn't even work on those at that point, really. We had an actual web designer on staff, and I was the Moodle girl. I did everything in anything Moodle. I knew that system way too well."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Yeah. Had to do everything manually."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Yeah."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "It was great."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "We had a graphic designer, and we had a web designer. And then we had media"
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Mhmm."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "Video person."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Mhmm."
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    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "That was yeah. That's what I stepped into. It's been almost eight years ago now."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "But Lauren has been here."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Oh, no. Time to do math."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "Nine? Ten?"
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Nine. Because I started right after I graduated in 2015."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "You were a student worker too."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Yes. I started as a student worker right after Spring Break of 2015. So I worked the last like month and a half of the semester as a student worker and then got hired on from that."
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      "body": "Cool. We've had you on before to talk about accessibility and you're the expert at that. And as far as ALT text, you are the only person I can rely on. People have heard this heard the the previous episode on that. I rely heavily on Lauren to do all my ALT text work for me, and I'm thankful that she's able to do that."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "But tell us what you do specifically for Transform Your Teaching."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "So for the podcast at the moment, most weeks, my role is to look over the show notes that are created and to make sure that everything does make sense and that we're following all of our style guides and everything else, and then prepping the blog post side of things for when we push out the episodes through, our blog Focus."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Yeah. You help make sure that we're not as wordy when it comes to the stuff that we write as well, which I'm very thankful for because I tend to be a very as this dissertation process has proved to me, I am a very wordy writer. So she skims out a lot of that stuff. Ryan is too. She's she's good at Ryan helps with that, and he's very good at adding lots of words."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "I and I am too."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "Until we changed our description format"
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Yeah."
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    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "Which, again, was thanks to Lauren."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Yes. For sure."
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      "body": "We would go in to our podcast chat after we had recorded, listened to it, getting ready to send it. We'd have that one last conversation, and we'd sit there and watch Lauren strike everything and make it say what it needed to say. And we felt good. We felt good."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Yeah. Very nice."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "We appreciate that."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "We do."
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      "body": "I've tried to do it before we got to the meeting, so it wasn't quite as like, no. I'm just gonna take out everything you wrote and just give these words"
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "and when no one was looking, so they all thought that they had done that."
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    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "320.28",
      "endTime": "326.655",
      "body": "Yeah. So we don't feel as bad when just a little look of the, like, the version history to see all the notes and stuff that she made."
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    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Exactly."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "But the other reason we have you on is because we wanna find out what else it is that you like to do and your interests and stuff like that. I know because we talk a lot about certain things, but Rob knows as well because he's your director of CTL. But what is it that Lauren Eisler feel like I'm doing like a get real get"
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    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "345.16998",
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      "body": "real down to the nitty gritty."
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Nitty gritty. What is it that you like to do, Lauren Eisler?"
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "endTime": "350.85",
      "body": "Oh, he's this Lauren Eisler."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Yes. That that sounds extremely serious, and I'm about to, like, answer with, like, the nerdiest stuff possible. Hello. I'm Lauren. I like to play video games."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Also I also like sports. I'm a very big Columbus Blue Jackets fan, as you all know, especially by me explaining the differences between a restricted free agent and unrestricted free agent right before we started this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "endTime": "375.38",
      "body": "Yeah. I love learning new things like like that."
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      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "375.38",
      "endTime": "379.78",
      "body": "The details of Karol Martenko signing for the Columbus Blue Jackets, you know, the important things in life."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "379.78",
      "endTime": "380.02002",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "380.465",
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      "body": "Do you still hold your season tickets? No. You gave them up?"
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    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "385.505",
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      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "385.98502",
      "endTime": "386.785",
      "body": "Oh, wow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "387.505",
      "endTime": "388.86502",
      "body": "But you still are a fan?"
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    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Yes. I gave them up because I have a friend who is two seats in a half season and takes me to games for free."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "394.71",
      "endTime": "395.51",
      "body": "Oh,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "396.55",
      "endTime": "397.91",
      "body": "That'll do it. That'll do it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "397.91",
      "endTime": "398.31",
      "body": "There you go."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "398.31",
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      "body": "I get it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "398.87",
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      "body": "You used have just one season ticket? Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Yeah. I would go by myself."
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    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "That's cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "endTime": "404.23",
      "body": "That's cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "That's brave."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "endTime": "405.99",
      "body": "It is."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "405.99",
      "endTime": "409.935",
      "body": "Well, I mean, Columbus is not that I mean, especially Blue Jackets. There's people aren't."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "409.935",
      "endTime": "412.175",
      "body": "Those hockey things, they can get kind of violent."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Well, not in Columbus."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "Primarily in Pennsylvania, but, you know"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "415.375",
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      "body": "It's boring in Columbus. Really? Those games are like,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "418.255",
      "endTime": "420.095",
      "body": "alright. Nobody hits anybody?"
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    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Oh, on the ice. Yeah. No. I've I've I've never been very many fights at nationwide as far as, like, amongst the fans. I don't remember."
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    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Of course, all the games I've been to, I haven't seen any, but it doesn't mean they haven't happened."
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      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "Ever seen a fight in the"
    },
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      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Have you started any fights in the stands?"
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    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
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      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "435.87",
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      "body": "Started any fights!"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "436.925",
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      "body": "I have not started any fights. I have threatened"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
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      "body": "Have finished?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "439.565",
      "endTime": "445.725",
      "body": "I I have threatened to start fights, and I resort to texting my friends about all the fights I want to start."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "445.805",
      "endTime": "446.685",
      "body": "Oh. Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "446.685",
      "endTime": "447.88498",
      "body": "And about everybody who is"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "448.04498",
      "endTime": "448.60498",
      "body": "That's good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "448.60498",
      "endTime": "449.88498",
      "body": "Being dumb around me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "449.88498",
      "endTime": "451.99",
      "body": "Yeah. That shows some restraint."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "451.99",
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      "body": "Now I worked I was back in my previous life when I worked in radio, we we did, Blue Jackets games. One of my friends in the business was, Jeff Remmer, who was the voice of the Blue Jackets on TV. He has since retired because I'm pretty sure he's 95 at this point. Do you think that's gonna have an impact on the team's performance this year?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "477.315",
      "endTime": "486.56",
      "body": "I mean, the last game he called, he did go to the room and tell Zach Worenski the exact number of goals he wanted him to score, and then Zach did it. So who knows?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "486.56",
      "endTime": "498.505",
      "body": "No way. Yes way. Jeff Rummers, I mean Jeff, if you're listening, which I know you're not. But as long as Greg Murray's still doing the the the PA voice Mhmm. There's he that dude's amazing too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "498.505",
      "endTime": "504.265",
      "body": "Anyway, what are the things you like to do besides talk about the Blue Jackets and how they're going to be not that great this season?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "504.265",
      "endTime": "509.41",
      "body": "Well, it's not maybe not that great, but better than last year, hopefully, is where we should be going."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "509.57",
      "endTime": "511.17",
      "body": "Always wanna be improving. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "511.17",
      "endTime": "512.05",
      "body": "We have good draft picks."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "512.05",
      "endTime": "512.85",
      "body": "We have good we have"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "512.85",
      "endTime": "519.65",
      "body": "good children coming up or, you know, as my friends and I joke, like, we have the babies coming along. Like, they're doing well."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "519.73",
      "endTime": "523.115",
      "body": "High hopes. How many games do you plan on going to?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "I typically it depends on how busy everything else gets. I go to at least two or three with my friend, and then I have friends who come up from Indiana a couple times a year, for girls weekend. And we go and we do hockey, which is super fun. It's one of my friends and her, like, six, seven year old daughter. I'm bad at ages at the moment."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "547.49",
      "endTime": "552.37",
      "body": "Mhmm. Cannot remember that. Fair. So they come out and we do hockey together."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "553.545",
      "endTime": "556.265",
      "body": "Then your parents, whenever your parents come, you guys"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "556.505",
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      "body": "Are they hockey fans? Oh, yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "558.585",
      "endTime": "560.025",
      "body": "But they don't cheer for the same team."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "560.025",
      "endTime": "560.905",
      "body": "No. No. They don't."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "560.905",
      "endTime": "562.265",
      "body": "Oh, what team do they cheer for?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "562.265",
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      "body": "The Washington Capitals."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "563.305",
      "endTime": "564.185",
      "body": "Oh, it makes sense."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
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      "body": "So does my sister. So, you know"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "566.10504",
      "endTime": "567.945",
      "body": "Oh, there's a division in the family."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "568.31",
      "endTime": "569.82996",
      "body": "Yeah. It's really fun going to,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "569.82996",
      "endTime": "571.67",
      "body": "you know division, and then there's the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "571.91",
      "endTime": "574.47",
      "body": "Actually, the Washington Capitals are in the metro. They are"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "574.47",
      "endTime": "579.75",
      "body": "in the metro division. Rivalry even. Which which means they have played in the playoffs before, and I have not talked to my"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "579.75",
      "endTime": "585.375",
      "body": "mother for two weeks before. So were you a Capitals fan before you're a Blue Jackets fan? No. You've So always been a Blue Jackets fan?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "585.53503",
      "endTime": "588.255",
      "body": "Always as in from when I got into hockey"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "588.495",
      "endTime": "588.815",
      "body": "Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "588.895",
      "endTime": "591.29504",
      "body": "And then chose team allegiances."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "591.375",
      "endTime": "591.695",
      "body": "Sure."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "591.695",
      "endTime": "592.655",
      "body": "Blue Jackets fan."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "592.655",
      "endTime": "595.775",
      "body": "K. Because you were here in the Columbus area when you picked your team."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "595.99",
      "endTime": "601.99005",
      "body": "Yes. Makes sense. My family didn't even get into hockey until 2014, I think."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "602.07",
      "endTime": "605.27",
      "body": "Okay. Is your family trash talk you?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "606.15",
      "endTime": "607.83",
      "body": "No. About hockey?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "608.15",
      "endTime": "608.79004",
      "body": "Come on."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "608.79004",
      "endTime": "613.61505",
      "body": "It it would depends. Very little. We tend to stay on the nicer side of things."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "613.61505",
      "endTime": "614.09503",
      "body": "Oh, that's good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "614.09503",
      "endTime": "617.135",
      "body": "Are the Capitals a better team than the Blue Jackets? Yes. I don't know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "617.135",
      "endTime": "619.455",
      "body": "They won the Stanley Cup a couple years ago."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "619.455",
      "endTime": "621.05505",
      "body": "So So yes. Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "621.375",
      "endTime": "624.815",
      "body": "Yes. Asterisk. They keep losing players."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "624.895",
      "endTime": "629.82",
      "body": "Oh, okay. So hockey Mhmm. Clearly, big fan. Mhmm. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "629.82",
      "endTime": "631.33997",
      "body": "Any other sports you're into?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "631.82",
      "endTime": "632.86",
      "body": "No. Not really."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "632.86",
      "endTime": "636.22",
      "body": "Oh. I can't get anyone in this office to be an F1 fan."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "636.22",
      "endTime": "637.1",
      "body": "We talk with you"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "637.1",
      "endTime": "649.425",
      "body": "about f one. I know. But it's clearly, you guys are just like, oh, let's let's make sure Jared feels included and talk about make sure when he talks about F1 stuff, you just smile and nod. What's that called? Pandering?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "649.425",
      "endTime": "651.985",
      "body": "I no. No. Badgering?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "651.985",
      "endTime": "655.505",
      "body": "No. Call it pandering. Other people call it being a good friend. It goes by many names."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "658.11",
      "endTime": "664.27",
      "body": "Yeah. And and I I did ask about Carlos signs and where he was going. You said he was going to Williams."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "664.27",
      "endTime": "668.27",
      "body": "Yeah. I'm not let's not let's really not bring that up. See? This is an episode for Warren."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "668.35004",
      "endTime": "669.71",
      "body": "Much stress for you. So But"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "669.71",
      "endTime": "671.71",
      "body": "will you join me in f one fandom?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "672.535",
      "endTime": "673.655",
      "body": "She's got too many other"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "673.815",
      "endTime": "675.335",
      "body": "If I find time, yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "675.495",
      "endTime": "680.615",
      "body": "Oh, alright. Fine. That sounds like a no. Yes. I think that's what what that was."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "680.615",
      "endTime": "684.295",
      "body": "What we can agree on are both our love for video games."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "684.295",
      "endTime": "684.615",
      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "684.615",
      "endTime": "688.14",
      "body": "So tell me about what, Rob, you can set beside for this part."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "688.14",
      "endTime": "690.7",
      "body": "I play video games I know. Sometimes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "690.7",
      "endTime": "692.38",
      "body": "I know you do. I know you do."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "692.38",
      "endTime": "693.58",
      "body": "You do, and that's great."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "693.58",
      "endTime": "695.34",
      "body": "And that's wonderful that you do that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "695.66",
      "endTime": "696.77997",
      "body": "We love that for you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "696.77997",
      "endTime": "697.58",
      "body": "We're being good friends."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "698.255",
      "endTime": "699.695",
      "body": "Oh, this isn't pandering?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "699.695",
      "endTime": "701.375",
      "body": "Yeah. This isn't pandering. No."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "701.375",
      "endTime": "703.855",
      "body": "The tone of voice is definitely not affecting it at all."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "703.855",
      "endTime": "716.7",
      "body": "No. Of course not. Let's talk about games that you're currently playing, games that are on the horizon for you. Walk me through what you've been because we haven't talked about that a lot, even off"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "716.7",
      "endTime": "731.77496",
      "body": "Yeah. It's been it's been a while. I don't know if I've I've definitely told you about at least one of the games that I've been currently playing, and it's been a bit since I did. I got very into a rogue-like cooking sim called Plate Up."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "731.77496",
      "endTime": "732.89496",
      "body": "Uh-huh. Uh-huh."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "732.89496",
      "endTime": "758.47504",
      "body": "It's a rogue-like like kitchen management game. So you start out by choosing whatever dish you're going to make, and then you get to choose restaurant layout. And then you get kicked into this tiny restaurant. And every day, like, the number of customers you serve increases. And then at the end of every single day, you get new cards that are randomized, which is the roguelike element of it to add things into your restaurant."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "758.47504",
      "endTime": "797.29504",
      "body": "So you can slowly improve the appliances you have by getting better versions of them. You can get, like, upgrade desks and other sorts of things so you can upgrade them even further. If you go far enough and collect all the right pieces, you can fully automate your restaurant and then just stand there and watch everything happen, which is very helpful in like later sorts of days because you can get a truly insane number of customers coming through like I've had, like, customer counts in the hundreds before. And it gets to the point if you get far enough that, like, a level takes, like, fifteen minutes to play through or watch through depending on how automated it is. But I've been playing a lot of that recently."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "797.61505",
      "endTime": "798.655",
      "body": "Anything on the horizon?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "800.13",
      "endTime": "803.97",
      "body": "I want to start playing Assassin's Creed again because I miss Assassin's Creed."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "803.97",
      "endTime": "804.45",
      "body": "Ohhhhhh,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "805.17",
      "endTime": "806.52997",
      "body": "Oh man. Those are so good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "806.52997",
      "endTime": "815.48505",
      "body": "Mhmm. So the question is whether I go back and play Black Flag again for, like, the fourth time or more. I I I play that one a lot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "815.885",
      "endTime": "816.525",
      "body": "So good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "816.525",
      "endTime": "822.36505",
      "body": "Or if I go back and finally was it three that I was playing through?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "823.48505",
      "endTime": "825.24506",
      "body": "Three is the colonial Native American"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "825.48505",
      "endTime": "832.02",
      "body": "Okay. It wasn't three. Was it was part of the it's part of the Ezio collection in Italy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "832.42",
      "endTime": "840.58",
      "body": "So there was Assassin's Creed two, and then there was Brotherhood, and then there was, like, one more that was more, like, clan based almost."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "840.98",
      "endTime": "842.98",
      "body": "It was either two or Brotherhood."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "842.98",
      "endTime": "843.94",
      "body": "Two is so good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "844.555",
      "endTime": "864.17",
      "body": "It might have been two that I was playing through and then got distracted and stopped that playthrough of it. And I want to pick it back up, but at this rate, I probably just need to restart the game because it's been over at least a year, if not more, since I last touched that game."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "864.17",
      "endTime": "871.14496",
      "body": "Yeah. So your final thoughts on the podcast. Where do you see the podcast going? Our numbers are growing"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "871.385",
      "endTime": "871.625",
      "body": "Yep."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "871.625",
      "endTime": "883.4",
      "body": "As far as listens and followers and such. Put on your forecasting hat again and tell us what you think is gonna happen from your perspective of what's gonna happen to the podcast."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "884.2",
      "endTime": "909.04",
      "body": "I mean, first instinct was to give you a very snarky answer, it's going to crash and burn. But, no, that's not the actual forecast. I think I think we're gonna keep improving. We're gonna keep getting good guests on and growing our listener base and our listenership. Some of the other things we've talked about doing, I think once we get those off the ground"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "910.32",
      "endTime": "911.6",
      "body": "I guess you can talk about them."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "911.68",
      "endTime": "912.0",
      "body": "You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "912.16",
      "endTime": "913.12",
      "body": "That secret."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "913.12",
      "endTime": "915.04",
      "body": "No. No. The secret. It's the secret."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "915.04",
      "endTime": "915.83997",
      "body": "Secret things."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "915.83997",
      "endTime": "916.32",
      "body": "The secret things."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "916.32",
      "endTime": "918.0",
      "body": "There's so much you can do with the podcast."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "918.0",
      "endTime": "920.055",
      "body": "There's the secret, but there's the secret secret. Secret."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "920.055",
      "endTime": "923.655",
      "body": "There's the secret secret, like, super exclusive"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "924.135",
      "endTime": "925.895",
      "body": "Patreon. What we're talking about."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "925.895",
      "endTime": "926.615",
      "body": "Newsletter."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "926.855",
      "endTime": "930.535",
      "body": "Oh, yeah. So, yeah, we're trying to find ways of branching out a"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "930.535",
      "endTime": "931.175",
      "body": "bit. Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "931.175",
      "endTime": "957.025",
      "body": "And just ways of providing more content and going deeper into things than we can do on a podcast. Then additional ways to get our content out there because podcast platforms are great, but I know for me, I don't go exploring and find new podcasts very often just because there's there there are an infinite number of podcasts. Yeah. And so many of them are good. I just have a limited number of hours in the day, and I can't get to them all."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "957.025",
      "endTime": "968.5",
      "body": "So people are exploring? Where do you think they're gonna run into something like this or resources? Like TikTok or does that does it need to be more social media?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "968.82",
      "endTime": "976.415",
      "body": "TikTok, I am shutting down this podcast. That's I'm saying that right now. If we we we start a TikTok account, it's over."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "976.415",
      "endTime": "978.89496",
      "body": "I'm I'm not I don't want one."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "978.975",
      "endTime": "979.695",
      "body": "Okay. Good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "979.695",
      "endTime": "982.815",
      "body": "I just I was just trying to understand from her perspective"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "983.055",
      "endTime": "983.375",
      "body": "Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "983.375",
      "endTime": "987.135",
      "body": "Where she thinks the fish are swimming, if I could say it that way."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "987.135",
      "endTime": "987.855",
      "body": "Yeah. There you go."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "987.855",
      "endTime": "991.85004",
      "body": "I don't think TikTok necessarily has our target audience."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "992.33",
      "endTime": "993.53",
      "body": "It's true. It doesn't."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "993.53",
      "endTime": "999.37",
      "body": "No. So that would be a very unwise strategy choice to make."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "999.37",
      "endTime": "1001.13",
      "body": "I'd call it a waste of time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "1001.13",
      "endTime": "1017.995",
      "body": "Yes. Yeah. A waste of time, waste of resources. Starting to like launching your LinkedIn page and becoming more active on there. I think that will be beneficial for us because it is a place where our target audience is."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "1018.635",
      "endTime": "1037.115",
      "body": "More useful than other social media because other social media has the algorithm so completely messed up that it is basically completely unusable for actually discovering new content and even showing existing content to people because of how the algorithm is weighted at the moment."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1037.195",
      "endTime": "1042.235",
      "body": "Yeah. Well, and LinkedIn seems to be a lot more focused on the professional."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "1042.235",
      "endTime": "1042.875",
      "body": "Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1042.955",
      "endTime": "1046.875",
      "body": "And most of the people we wanna talk to are teaching learning professionals."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1046.88",
      "endTime": "1051.6",
      "body": "And it it's becoming its own social network as well. It wasn't really that way before."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1051.76",
      "endTime": "1053.6",
      "body": "And it's not everybody and everything."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1053.6",
      "endTime": "1054.32",
      "body": "It's just"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1054.32",
      "endTime": "1062.24",
      "body": "a it's narrowly narrowly focused more so than, like, Facebook or Yeah. Mhmm. Is there something else? Twitter. Twitter's like well, no."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1062.24",
      "endTime": "1062.88",
      "body": "I'm sorry. It's"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "1063.1749",
      "endTime": "1066.695",
      "body": "x. No. No. It's Twitter, and Pluto stole a planet."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1067.975",
      "endTime": "1083.0801",
      "body": "Well, like, Twitter was the resource for educators. Like, it was I Mhmm. When I helped teach a a professional course for educators here when I first started at Cedarville, we kept talking about building your personal learning network on Twitter."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "1083.0801",
      "endTime": "1083.4",
      "body": "Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1083.4",
      "endTime": "1084.8401",
      "body": "Because that's where the educators were."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "1084.8401",
      "endTime": "1112.13",
      "body": "It used to be a good place to like hold discussions and have like actual conversations and find good information. But with the constant changes to the platform ever since it was taken over and murdered, it's a delightful level of kind of usable sometimes. Yeah. As long as you don't mind your content never getting seen by anybody because the algorithm is so weird about what it chooses to push and what it doesn't push."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1112.13",
      "endTime": "1126.465",
      "body": "Right. There hasn't really been a platform that's like taken the place of that, at least I've seen for educators yet. Instagram is like, I've tried to start an Instagram for like a professional account and I can't get it off the ground. And it seems like LinkedIn could be that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "1126.73",
      "endTime": "1148.035",
      "body": "Instagram broke their own stuff because Instagram changed how they do hashtags probably about a year or so ago in that, hashtags, you used to be able to tap on a hashtag and see the most recent posts. And now it's only like, trending and featured posts from the hashtag. So whatever has the most engagement no matter how long ago it's from."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1148.515",
      "endTime": "1149.3151",
      "body": "That's awful."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "1149.3151",
      "endTime": "1149.875",
      "body": "Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1150.1951",
      "endTime": "1157.1",
      "body": "Do better, Zuckerberg, if you're listening. Jeff Rimmer and Mark Zuckerberg are listening to our podcast."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1157.1",
      "endTime": "1161.26",
      "body": "Because money is is keeping your voice from coming to his ears."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1161.26",
      "endTime": "1162.3",
      "body": "Rimmer or Zuckerberg?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1162.3",
      "endTime": "1162.78",
      "body": "Zuckerberg."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1162.78",
      "endTime": "1165.6599",
      "body": "Okay. Just checking."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1165.9",
      "endTime": "1169.135",
      "body": "He's like, I'm sorry. Wait. My billions can't seem to"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1169.135",
      "endTime": "1176.735",
      "body": "hear you over all the money. He's holding up stacks of twenties on his ears. I like that. Any other thing you wanna ask Lauren?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1176.735",
      "endTime": "1183.1",
      "body": "No. I think this has been it's been great. We've talked about hockey. We've talked about video games."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1183.1",
      "endTime": "1185.98",
      "body": "Yeah. Those two most important things in Lauren's eyes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Rob",
      "startTime": "1185.98",
      "endTime": "1195.2599",
      "body": "Well, and also some future ideas about where we're heading with the podcast with LinkedIn and no. I think I think it was good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1195.2599",
      "endTime": "1200.3251",
      "body": "Yeah. So thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to sit with us and talk."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Lauren",
      "startTime": "1200.3251",
      "endTime": "1203.205",
      "body": "Of course. Happy to be here. Always happy to help out."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1203.2051",
      "endTime": "1223.0",
      "body": "Well, that's gonna do it for us on the Transformer Teaching Podcast. Make sure you like and subscribe on your favorite podcast platform. Join us on LinkedIn. We'll put a link in the show notes and description for you to, follow us. Make sure that you are also, checking out our blog at cedarville.edu/focusblog."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jared",
      "startTime": "1223.0",
      "endTime": "1229.1139",
      "body": "If you have any questions, send us an email at CTLPodcastCedarville dot edu. Thanks for listening."
    }
  ]
}
