Layer One

In Episode 16 of Layer One, The Block’s Kelvin Sparks is joined by Avalanche Treasury Company CEO Bart Smith. Bart explained the thesis behind treasury companies as a way to get regulated, permanent-capital exposure to AVAX and the Avalanche ecosystem. He also covers his Wall Street/ETF background, why real-world-asset tokenization needs "productive" assets to matter, and why he thinks crypto's investment thesis is stronger than ever.

OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
01:22 - What Is AVAT?
03:59 - Wall Street Roots & Crypto's Rise
06:19 - The Bitcoin ETF Bet
08:58 - Hiring a COO
11:13 - Why Own AVAT?
15:56 - Scaling Avalanche & RWAs
22:54 - DeFi, TradFi & AI Fears
33:03 - Policy Risks & RWA Forecast
40:08 - Closing Thoughts

Guest links:
Bart Smith - https://twitter.com/gbartsmith
AVAT - https://twitter.com/avat_co

Host links:
Kelvin Sparks - https://x.com/imyoungsparks⁠⁠⁠
John Wu - ⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/John1wu
The Block - https://x.com/TheBlockCo
Ava Labs - https://x.com/avalabs
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What is Layer One?

The Layer One podcast, created in collaboration with Avalanche, features co-hosts Kelvin Sparks and John Wu as they unpack the real forces driving the crypto market forward.

Through candid conversations with the industry’s true movers and shakers, the show delivers clear, grounded insights that cut through the noise.