1 00:00:14,010 --> 00:00:14,490 All right. 2 00:00:14,550 --> 00:00:15,270 What do you got me into? 3 00:00:15,330 --> 00:00:15,850 What are we doing here? 4 00:00:16,475 --> 00:00:21,360 Uh, we are, uh, apparently not learning from our mistakes from last year, and 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,890 we're doing the hot wing challenge again. 6 00:00:23,430 --> 00:00:25,350 So we've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. 7 00:00:25,350 --> 00:00:29,400 We have 10 different hot sauces in front of us, and progressive heat 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,910 going from mild to melt your face off. 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,680 And this is what Hot ones they put out this box of, of hot wing sauce? 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:44,010 Yeah, it's a, uh, based on the, based on the, uh, internet show where you, the, 11 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:48,450 you know, the Sean Evans interviews people and, uh, as they go through the interview, 12 00:00:48,450 --> 00:00:50,550 they eat progressively spicier hot wings. 13 00:00:50,550 --> 00:00:53,250 And yeah, we went out and bought the box set again. 14 00:00:54,585 --> 00:00:55,695 And it's, it is spicy. 15 00:00:55,935 --> 00:00:55,995 You 16 00:00:55,995 --> 00:00:56,355 smell that? 17 00:00:56,775 --> 00:00:57,105 Yeah. 18 00:00:57,105 --> 00:01:01,095 Well, as I sauce the wings, uh, I was like holding back sneezes. 19 00:01:01,095 --> 00:01:01,875 It's, it, they, 20 00:01:02,055 --> 00:01:02,740 you know what I smell 21 00:01:03,250 --> 00:01:03,540 what? 22 00:01:03,855 --> 00:01:04,155 Fear. 23 00:01:04,515 --> 00:01:04,995 Oh, yes. 24 00:01:04,995 --> 00:01:06,375 No, that, that is palpable. 25 00:01:06,375 --> 00:01:06,975 It's in the air. 26 00:01:08,085 --> 00:01:13,125 So last time we're listening to the audio of the hot wing challenge, and 27 00:01:13,875 --> 00:01:17,985 you know, I've got energy, I usually have, my leg is going a mile a minute 28 00:01:17,985 --> 00:01:21,135 just to burn off some of this energy to keep myself thinking straight. 29 00:01:21,135 --> 00:01:21,615 And you hear, 30 00:01:21,620 --> 00:01:22,140 you know where you're going. 31 00:01:22,385 --> 00:01:25,305 You hear this, click, click, click, click. 32 00:01:25,305 --> 00:01:27,585 And you're like, Travis, what are you doing here? 33 00:01:27,585 --> 00:01:28,185 Like, what's this? 34 00:01:28,575 --> 00:01:30,315 You're, you can hear your leg underneath. 35 00:01:30,315 --> 00:01:31,275 I'm like, this is weird. 36 00:01:31,275 --> 00:01:32,535 I've never had the before. 37 00:01:32,535 --> 00:01:36,075 And I'm always kind of like going up and down a DH ding out. 38 00:01:37,275 --> 00:01:38,175 But it wasn't me, was it? 39 00:01:40,005 --> 00:01:42,195 Uh, you know, I think maybe we don't do a podcast. 40 00:01:43,905 --> 00:01:44,295 Yes. 41 00:01:44,295 --> 00:01:44,865 It was me. 42 00:01:44,865 --> 00:01:47,865 I have a, I have TMJ or whatever. 43 00:01:47,865 --> 00:01:48,345 I don't know. 44 00:01:48,345 --> 00:01:49,155 I have a clicky jaw. 45 00:01:49,215 --> 00:01:49,635 So 46 00:01:49,635 --> 00:01:50,250 too much jaw. 47 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,210 Yeah. 48 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:54,675 So for anyone that was listening to the podcast last year, that. 49 00:01:55,259 --> 00:01:58,440 Metronome like clicking throughout the uh, episode. 50 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,179 That was my jaw clicking. 51 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:00,720 Yes. 52 00:02:00,810 --> 00:02:06,240 And we ended the podcast last time with a special surprise that I brought in. 53 00:02:06,390 --> 00:02:06,720 Yes. 54 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,500 It was very special. 55 00:02:07,530 --> 00:02:11,070 Yeah, I figured a little bear spray at the very end. 56 00:02:11,250 --> 00:02:11,579 Yep. 57 00:02:11,579 --> 00:02:11,910 Of course. 58 00:02:12,090 --> 00:02:13,140 Seeing where it was at. 59 00:02:13,140 --> 00:02:16,950 So I let the bear spray off in a bag inside this room here, which by 60 00:02:16,950 --> 00:02:20,280 the way, doing podcasts afterwards, touching the microphone and touching 61 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,760 my eyes like there was residual bear spray inside the room here. 62 00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:26,490 But we did that for a very specific reason. 63 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:31,470 'cause a lot of people probably don't know that we filmed that episode twice. 64 00:02:31,530 --> 00:02:31,590 Yeah. 65 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:36,510 And we came up with a saying after that, that we applied to our life, which was 66 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,940 no half measures because you sauced everything in a way that you figured 67 00:02:41,940 --> 00:02:43,950 would be fine in our first episode. 68 00:02:43,950 --> 00:02:46,620 And we went through, and by the time we got to the end, we're like, you know, 69 00:02:47,365 --> 00:02:50,550 it just doesn't feel that hot because of course they're sitting here in front 70 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:54,600 of us and they're cold and it's not like it's just come piping outta the oven. 71 00:02:55,454 --> 00:02:59,655 So the second time through, you basically doused each one with half a bottle. 72 00:02:59,745 --> 00:02:59,864 Yeah. 73 00:03:00,915 --> 00:03:02,775 Did you go half measures this time? 74 00:03:02,775 --> 00:03:05,445 I did not, no, I did not go half measures. 75 00:03:05,505 --> 00:03:09,855 It was like my fingers are burning from, from plating these up and yeah. 76 00:03:09,975 --> 00:03:10,185 Yeah. 77 00:03:10,185 --> 00:03:11,595 That's always a good life lesson. 78 00:03:11,595 --> 00:03:12,704 Hot wing challenge. 79 00:03:12,765 --> 00:03:15,225 Wash your hands before going to the washroom. 80 00:03:15,825 --> 00:03:16,274 Yes. 81 00:03:16,365 --> 00:03:16,995 And after, 82 00:03:17,505 --> 00:03:17,894 of course. 83 00:03:17,894 --> 00:03:18,105 Yes. 84 00:03:18,165 --> 00:03:21,345 But you know, you only gotta make that mistake once. 85 00:03:21,345 --> 00:03:21,405 Yeah. 86 00:03:22,215 --> 00:03:27,435 Uh, so the purpose behind this episode, aside from the fact that we 87 00:03:27,435 --> 00:03:28,995 haven't learned from our past mistakes 88 00:03:29,055 --> 00:03:29,565 we never do, 89 00:03:30,315 --> 00:03:35,204 is that you have a brand new podcast and I figured this would be a fun way 90 00:03:35,204 --> 00:03:39,225 for you and I to sit down and we've got some questions we can ask each other, 91 00:03:39,225 --> 00:03:42,045 or maybe we'll just throw 'em completely out and just make it up as we go. 92 00:03:42,045 --> 00:03:46,755 But it'll be a good chance for the Silver Core Podcast audience to learn about 93 00:03:46,905 --> 00:03:49,845 the Wild Kitchen, your new podcast. 94 00:03:51,090 --> 00:03:55,380 It's, uh, it's probably a while in the making. 95 00:03:55,470 --> 00:03:58,890 Um, definitely came to fruit fruition. 96 00:03:58,920 --> 00:03:59,940 Thanks to you. 97 00:04:00,180 --> 00:04:03,810 Um, I've definitely benefited from your five years of expertise 98 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:04,950 of putting on a podcast. 99 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:11,160 Um, but I'm super excited to sit down and eat some wings and, uh, chat about, 100 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,210 chat about why, why we've created new podcasts, why we're doing it. 101 00:04:15,330 --> 00:04:15,690 Hold on. 102 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:16,769 Let's eat the wing first. 103 00:04:16,775 --> 00:04:16,845 Okay. 104 00:04:16,845 --> 00:04:16,885 Yeah. 105 00:04:16,885 --> 00:04:19,085 We'll have a wing and let's start getting into this one. 106 00:04:19,085 --> 00:04:19,325 Okay. 107 00:04:19,350 --> 00:04:19,560 Okay. 108 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,640 What's our first wing here? 109 00:04:20,730 --> 00:04:21,060 Uh, can 110 00:04:21,060 --> 00:04:21,450 you read off 111 00:04:21,450 --> 00:04:21,965 the, yeah, yeah. 112 00:04:22,140 --> 00:04:24,390 Uh, first one is s Okay. 113 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:31,170 You're gonna have to forgive my horrific, uh, Spanish Senior Lechuga hot sauce. 114 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,240 I think that means Mr. 115 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,370 Vegetable or Mr. Lettuce. 116 00:04:35,820 --> 00:04:39,240 My Spanish is really horrible, but it's, uh, lemon, garlic, and habanero. 117 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:40,920 It, it smelled really good. 118 00:04:41,070 --> 00:04:42,060 You forgot your candle. 119 00:04:43,094 --> 00:04:43,665 My candle. 120 00:04:43,695 --> 00:04:43,995 Yeah. 121 00:04:43,995 --> 00:04:46,995 You know, when we get to the end here, you gotta have a candle to drink, right? 122 00:04:47,115 --> 00:04:47,594 Oh, yes. 123 00:04:47,594 --> 00:04:48,255 Like the bear spray. 124 00:04:48,255 --> 00:04:49,725 It was like drinking a hot candle. 125 00:04:50,025 --> 00:04:50,145 It 126 00:04:50,145 --> 00:04:51,255 was, or like Homer Simpson. 127 00:04:51,375 --> 00:04:51,555 Mm-hmm. 128 00:04:51,795 --> 00:04:52,125 What was it? 129 00:04:52,125 --> 00:04:59,445 The merciless peppers of queso Zango grown in the deep forest of primeval by 130 00:04:59,445 --> 00:05:01,905 Guatemalan insane island cap inmates. 131 00:05:02,715 --> 00:05:02,925 Yep. 132 00:05:03,045 --> 00:05:04,034 Is that what we're having right now? 133 00:05:04,065 --> 00:05:04,185 No. 134 00:05:04,185 --> 00:05:04,215 Okay. 135 00:05:04,510 --> 00:05:04,875 No, no, no. 136 00:05:04,935 --> 00:05:06,915 I, I think it, it's probably gonna taste good. 137 00:05:07,034 --> 00:05:07,335 Oh good. 138 00:05:07,395 --> 00:05:08,145 Um, yeah. 139 00:05:08,145 --> 00:05:08,775 But we'll see. 140 00:05:08,775 --> 00:05:11,805 I'm gonna move the mic a little bit away from my mouth so people don't 141 00:05:11,805 --> 00:05:13,575 have to listen to the clicking again. 142 00:05:13,635 --> 00:05:14,534 And thanks for the flats. 143 00:05:14,534 --> 00:05:18,825 By the way, the flats are nice when you got a beard mustache, it's easier to eat. 144 00:05:23,630 --> 00:05:23,750 Hmm. 145 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:30,150 Mm-hmm. 146 00:05:31,485 --> 00:05:31,845 I like it. 147 00:05:32,805 --> 00:05:33,135 Hmm. 148 00:05:35,565 --> 00:05:36,135 A little bit of spice. 149 00:05:36,135 --> 00:05:36,375 Not too bad. 150 00:05:36,375 --> 00:05:37,455 I'm noticing something though. 151 00:05:37,575 --> 00:05:37,905 Mm-hmm. 152 00:05:38,850 --> 00:05:42,720 It is got more spice at stage one than we had last time. 153 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,670 I'm also noticing wasn't the last one we had like called Deba and now that's 154 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:49,170 like number eight on the list here. 155 00:05:50,085 --> 00:05:51,445 I think De Baum's always in number eight. 156 00:05:52,085 --> 00:05:52,205 Hmm. 157 00:05:53,730 --> 00:05:55,680 I just remember Deba was pretty spicy. 158 00:05:56,610 --> 00:05:57,570 It was the worst by far. 159 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:58,710 Okay. 160 00:05:58,715 --> 00:05:59,400 Are you done eating? 161 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:00,120 No. 162 00:06:00,270 --> 00:06:00,630 Okay. 163 00:06:01,290 --> 00:06:02,340 You ate years faster than me. 164 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:03,030 Yeah. 165 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:03,990 I got the flats down. 166 00:06:04,535 --> 00:06:07,410 Uhhuh, do you wanna ask a question or? 167 00:06:07,770 --> 00:06:08,040 Yeah. 168 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:09,540 Why'd you start The Wild Kitchen podcast? 169 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,960 I can hear that clicking. 170 00:06:13,085 --> 00:06:13,365 I know 171 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:16,560 I can you now the entire rest of this episode, the audience is 172 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,200 gonna hear this clicking unless I can figure a way to edit this out. 173 00:06:19,260 --> 00:06:19,920 Sorry guys. 174 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:20,970 Yeah. 175 00:06:20,970 --> 00:06:21,270 Sorry. 176 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:22,530 I have to go to the physio a little bit more. 177 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Uh, why, why did I start it? 178 00:06:25,290 --> 00:06:27,630 Um, a number of reasons. 179 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:34,050 Um, I think, um, I think there's people that I wanted to talk to. 180 00:06:34,905 --> 00:06:41,325 And podcast gives me an opportunity to talk to these people and ask 'em questions 181 00:06:41,325 --> 00:06:45,585 and, and I think some of the stuff that I'm interested in, I had people tell 182 00:06:45,585 --> 00:06:47,265 me that they're interested in as well. 183 00:06:47,955 --> 00:06:53,655 So it allows me to share what I love, uh, share what I'm interested 184 00:06:53,655 --> 00:06:57,615 in, and share the things that I'm learning with other people. 185 00:06:58,005 --> 00:07:01,695 And, um, so far it's been, it's been amazing. 186 00:07:01,755 --> 00:07:07,965 I've, I've recorded eight episodes now and talked to some really cool people and I'm 187 00:07:07,965 --> 00:07:12,405 super excited to, uh, have other people hear the conversations we had and, and 188 00:07:12,405 --> 00:07:13,815 learned some of the cool stuff I learned. 189 00:07:14,790 --> 00:07:15,660 Let me know what they think. 190 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:16,650 Cool. 191 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:20,760 So, uh, wild Kitchen Podcast, we'll put links to that into the description here. 192 00:07:20,970 --> 00:07:22,410 You've had some cool people on already. 193 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:22,650 Mm-hmm. 194 00:07:22,890 --> 00:07:25,290 You've recorded what, nine, nine episodes so far? 195 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:27,480 Uh, including the intro. 196 00:07:27,540 --> 00:07:27,900 Nine. 197 00:07:27,900 --> 00:07:28,680 Yeah, but eight. 198 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,980 Eight where I sat down with, um, with people and talked. 199 00:07:32,310 --> 00:07:32,580 Yeah. 200 00:07:32,580 --> 00:07:34,950 And that was, that was the original goal is always mm-hmm. 201 00:07:35,190 --> 00:07:37,590 If you can make it to eight episodes, you've got a podcast. 202 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:41,790 'cause apparently, statistically most podcasts will die 203 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,110 before the eighth episode. 204 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:45,900 And if you can make it to eight and pass that, then you got a good 205 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:47,310 kicking in chance at having something. 206 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:49,080 So you've got that already prerecorded. 207 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,670 You're gonna be releasing them once a week, which is a, um, which is a 208 00:07:53,670 --> 00:07:57,030 heavy release cycle, but it's good for the people listening to it. 209 00:07:57,750 --> 00:07:57,960 Yeah. 210 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:03,480 And pre i, I pre rele or I prerecorded all of the episodes as well so 211 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,260 that I could, um, it was planned out a number of months in advance. 212 00:08:07,380 --> 00:08:10,260 Uh, there was a set group of people that I really wanted to talk to. 213 00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:11,130 Um. 214 00:08:12,225 --> 00:08:13,695 It was very planned out. 215 00:08:13,695 --> 00:08:19,905 It was very intentional, um, a chance to, to create the season that, that I really 216 00:08:19,905 --> 00:08:23,985 wanted to create and, and, and per, you know, put out for people to listen to. 217 00:08:23,985 --> 00:08:26,505 So, I'm so far been super, super happy with it. 218 00:08:26,505 --> 00:08:27,555 You wanna try the next wing? 219 00:08:28,005 --> 00:08:28,755 Uh, yeah, sure. 220 00:08:28,875 --> 00:08:29,085 Okay. 221 00:08:29,085 --> 00:08:29,595 What is it? 222 00:08:29,985 --> 00:08:36,375 The next one is Karma sauce liftoff, green tie vibes, and 223 00:08:36,375 --> 00:08:37,215 I don't know about that green 224 00:08:37,575 --> 00:08:37,635 tie. 225 00:08:37,635 --> 00:08:37,875 All right. 226 00:08:37,875 --> 00:08:37,935 Yeah. 227 00:08:37,965 --> 00:08:39,495 So what's the, what's the heat rating on that one? 228 00:08:39,495 --> 00:08:40,095 Does it tell you? 229 00:08:40,635 --> 00:08:42,465 Oh, the, uh, scoville 230 00:08:42,465 --> 00:08:42,975 units? 231 00:08:43,245 --> 00:08:43,755 Yeah. 232 00:08:44,445 --> 00:08:45,465 Uh, 8,000. 233 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:46,190 Okay. 234 00:08:46,190 --> 00:08:46,200 Well, 235 00:08:46,635 --> 00:08:51,315 so from zero to regret it's 8,000. 236 00:08:51,315 --> 00:08:55,395 So I don't really understand how that, that measurement scale, but, 237 00:08:55,605 --> 00:08:57,375 so we've got Petro Bismol out here. 238 00:08:57,405 --> 00:08:57,585 Yeah. 239 00:08:57,735 --> 00:09:01,155 You've got a mystery container of what, what's it eggnog? 240 00:09:01,185 --> 00:09:01,245 No, 241 00:09:02,985 --> 00:09:03,645 what did you, what did you bring? 242 00:09:04,335 --> 00:09:05,740 Blue cheese dressing that we can drink. 243 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:05,980 Oh, 244 00:09:05,985 --> 00:09:06,375 dammit. 245 00:09:06,375 --> 00:09:07,635 I forgot the blue cheese dressing. 246 00:09:07,965 --> 00:09:08,505 Um. 247 00:09:09,060 --> 00:09:12,120 It's, uh, hot or chuck chocolate milk. 248 00:09:12,570 --> 00:09:14,160 The hot wings are already getting Daz. 249 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,390 All right, let's see the next one. 250 00:09:15,450 --> 00:09:18,150 Yeah, so for these flats, for anyone who's watching it, there 251 00:09:18,150 --> 00:09:19,380 is a trick to eating them. 252 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,610 If you can press down and not drop it, if you can press down on one side 253 00:09:23,610 --> 00:09:26,700 or if you can kind of hold it out, you can just eat the whole thing. 254 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:27,390 Just like this. 255 00:09:27,390 --> 00:09:27,990 Anyone watching 256 00:09:30,060 --> 00:09:30,570 and you're done? 257 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:33,030 Yeah. 258 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:33,750 I can't do that. 259 00:09:37,260 --> 00:09:37,995 This one tastes pretty good. 260 00:09:37,995 --> 00:09:38,395 Mm-hmm. 261 00:09:41,095 --> 00:09:43,020 I'm not, I'm not getting the heat on that one. 262 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:43,470 Mm-hmm. 263 00:09:44,580 --> 00:09:46,290 I felt the heat on the last one. 264 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:46,440 Mm-hmm. 265 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:48,660 I can see you've used just the same amount. 266 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:50,940 Like you use a good amount of sauce on these. 267 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:53,130 Here's what we're gonna do moving forward. 268 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:53,970 Mm-hmm. 269 00:09:54,390 --> 00:09:55,080 Each one. 270 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:55,320 Go ahead. 271 00:09:55,860 --> 00:10:00,180 So I heard, I've seen the actual challenge. 272 00:10:00,330 --> 00:10:00,570 Mm-hmm. 273 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,020 And they call the one the last dab, or because they put a little 274 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:05,280 bit extra on right at the end. 275 00:10:05,460 --> 00:10:05,730 Mm-hmm. 276 00:10:05,910 --> 00:10:07,290 Let's do that for each and every one. 277 00:10:08,845 --> 00:10:12,180 I mean, my next one has a dab on top, but Sure. 278 00:10:12,210 --> 00:10:12,540 Let's do it. 279 00:10:13,050 --> 00:10:13,410 Let's do it. 280 00:10:13,770 --> 00:10:13,920 Okay. 281 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,300 I'm not, I don't have plans for tomorrow. 282 00:10:15,780 --> 00:10:17,790 So, um, here's the next one. 283 00:10:17,820 --> 00:10:17,970 Mm-hmm. 284 00:10:19,380 --> 00:10:23,880 Do we want to dab our own or pour it off for the other person? 285 00:10:26,130 --> 00:10:29,430 I think the table's a little too big to pour it on for each other. 286 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:29,910 Okay. 287 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:30,780 We're gonna use the table. 288 00:10:30,810 --> 00:10:31,260 Gotcha. 289 00:10:32,910 --> 00:10:35,670 So you separated your podcast into seasons? 290 00:10:35,730 --> 00:10:36,840 Oh, I feel it now. 291 00:10:37,140 --> 00:10:37,920 It takes a second. 292 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:38,910 It's like dumb and dumber. 293 00:10:38,910 --> 00:10:41,040 It's like, oh, it doesn't really, it's not hot. 294 00:10:41,130 --> 00:10:41,910 Just kind of tickles. 295 00:10:42,870 --> 00:10:43,080 Yeah. 296 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,930 It, it definitely, the first one is a little bit more, 297 00:10:45,930 --> 00:10:47,130 uh, heat forward for sure. 298 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,180 Okay. 299 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:50,940 So you separated yourself into seasons. 300 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:51,090 Mm-hmm. 301 00:10:51,330 --> 00:10:52,410 What's the idea behind that? 302 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:55,980 Um, numerous reasons. 303 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,275 Uh, the main one is, uh. 304 00:10:59,595 --> 00:11:02,175 Uh, there's a lot of people I wanna talk to. 305 00:11:02,415 --> 00:11:06,015 There's a lot of subjects that interest me, and having a season 306 00:11:06,015 --> 00:11:08,715 allowed me to put bookends on it. 307 00:11:09,194 --> 00:11:13,814 Uh, it allowed me to keep my focus as to who I wanted to talk to. 308 00:11:14,385 --> 00:11:19,185 Um, and I think I, I was hoping for the, for the, for the audience 309 00:11:19,185 --> 00:11:23,685 as well to have just a bit of a, I don't know, theme to it. 310 00:11:23,699 --> 00:11:23,990 Okay. 311 00:11:24,030 --> 00:11:25,125 I thought, I thought it'd be more fun. 312 00:11:25,455 --> 00:11:27,165 So if I'm, yeah. 313 00:11:27,165 --> 00:11:29,955 I don't think you've told me what your theme is, but it looks like authors who've 314 00:11:29,955 --> 00:11:33,015 inspired you as your first season theme. 315 00:11:33,465 --> 00:11:33,795 Yeah. 316 00:11:33,795 --> 00:11:39,255 I, I mean, um, I, I sometimes get a little bit of heat over it, but I, I read books. 317 00:11:39,314 --> 00:11:42,645 I do read books, but most of the books I do read are cookbooks, 318 00:11:42,645 --> 00:11:43,095 nerd. 319 00:11:43,185 --> 00:11:50,085 I know I'm such a, most of the books I do read are cookbooks and, um, and 320 00:11:50,085 --> 00:11:53,655 I mean, being, being a chef, it's, it's something obviously that like's. 321 00:11:54,675 --> 00:11:55,425 Interests me. 322 00:11:55,605 --> 00:11:56,444 I read them though. 323 00:11:56,444 --> 00:11:59,444 Like at bedtime when I'm trying to fall asleep, I'll like read through a 324 00:11:59,444 --> 00:12:04,395 cookbook and so I, yeah, not all of them. 325 00:12:04,455 --> 00:12:04,545 Mm-hmm. 326 00:12:04,545 --> 00:12:08,324 But most of the people in the first season were, uh. 327 00:12:09,105 --> 00:12:13,425 People, chefs or people that, uh, wrote books that really influenced me. 328 00:12:14,055 --> 00:12:14,355 Gotcha. 329 00:12:14,415 --> 00:12:14,625 Yeah. 330 00:12:15,675 --> 00:12:18,735 I'm wondering if we should get a spoon that we can fill up with hot sauce. 331 00:12:18,915 --> 00:12:22,995 I think we've only eaten two, and maybe we just pace ourselves. 332 00:12:25,275 --> 00:12:27,615 I swear it, it, I I remember the last one. 333 00:12:27,675 --> 00:12:30,225 The, after the third one, it starts getting hotter. 334 00:12:30,675 --> 00:12:32,265 Um, might have to pause this. 335 00:12:32,265 --> 00:12:34,395 I think you got something in your eye. 336 00:12:35,564 --> 00:12:36,225 It's fear. 337 00:12:36,435 --> 00:12:37,095 It is fear. 338 00:12:37,095 --> 00:12:38,025 I see fear in your 339 00:12:38,025 --> 00:12:38,115 eye. 340 00:12:38,115 --> 00:12:39,165 We don't have fear in my eye. 341 00:12:39,165 --> 00:12:40,995 I agreed to do more dabbing. 342 00:12:42,465 --> 00:12:45,194 I bet I'm gonna, uh, sorry kids. 343 00:12:45,465 --> 00:12:51,015 Um, but yeah, I just, I want, if it's still really, really not super spicy 344 00:12:51,015 --> 00:12:53,025 after the third one, then we're good. 345 00:12:53,475 --> 00:12:53,505 Okay. 346 00:12:53,505 --> 00:12:54,075 What's the third one? 347 00:12:54,944 --> 00:12:55,155 Okay. 348 00:12:55,155 --> 00:12:59,775 The third one is pickled garlic, sriracha hot sauce. 349 00:12:59,805 --> 00:13:00,045 Okay. 350 00:13:00,045 --> 00:13:01,300 And what do we add on the scovilles? 351 00:13:02,319 --> 00:13:02,540 Um. 352 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:07,350 It says mild medium, three oh to 10. 353 00:13:07,350 --> 00:13:08,400 Trying to see Scoville. 354 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,630 Did you shake 'em before? 355 00:13:09,780 --> 00:13:10,500 I did, yeah. 356 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:10,950 Okay. 357 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,420 You wanna dab some on yours? 358 00:13:12,420 --> 00:13:14,880 And then it, it looks like I might have separated a little bit. 359 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,815 Let's give it a good shake and then, uh, sure. 360 00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:19,410 Okay. 361 00:13:22,290 --> 00:13:23,820 This is number three on the list. 362 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:26,550 So while you're doing that, 363 00:13:28,770 --> 00:13:29,135 there you, oh, there you go. 364 00:13:30,755 --> 00:13:31,255 I'm gonna move 365 00:13:31,255 --> 00:13:31,375 that. 366 00:13:31,380 --> 00:13:32,760 So you've been a chef for a long time. 367 00:13:34,035 --> 00:13:34,695 Uh, yes. 368 00:13:35,195 --> 00:13:37,560 And you are a Red Seal chef. 369 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,340 You, uh, apprentice and stad a few places. 370 00:13:41,610 --> 00:13:42,840 Worked in a bakery. 371 00:13:43,530 --> 00:13:44,280 I'll put this back. 372 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:49,860 Um, you're at Hotel Vancouver and I remember back in the 373 00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:51,750 day we had, uh, who was it? 374 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:54,180 Rob Feeney and David Hawksworth. 375 00:13:54,180 --> 00:13:56,940 And depending on what magazine you read, one was gonna be like. 376 00:13:57,780 --> 00:14:00,390 Top tier and a different magazine would have the other one at top tier. 377 00:14:00,390 --> 00:14:01,140 Mm-hmm. 378 00:14:01,141 --> 00:14:03,300 But you worked under Hawksworth for some time and 379 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:03,390 mm-hmm. 380 00:14:04,170 --> 00:14:07,020 Like kind of the whole gamut of different places. 381 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,780 You've had some amazing meals. 382 00:14:09,810 --> 00:14:13,890 I'm sure we've shared some amazing meals in our travels. 383 00:14:13,890 --> 00:14:15,420 We've had some great meals. 384 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,440 If you were to look back and maybe pick out some of the more memorable, 385 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,460 and maybe if even if it's just one that really stands out, uh, 386 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:26,310 what would that meal be and why 387 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,650 meal that someone's cooked for me, or a meal that I've cooked for someone or 388 00:14:31,650 --> 00:14:32,700 I didn't speculate. 389 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,990 So maybe we do both then. 390 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:35,850 Um 391 00:14:36,690 --> 00:14:36,930 hmm. 392 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:38,820 It tastes good. 393 00:14:38,910 --> 00:14:39,180 Mm-hmm. 394 00:14:39,510 --> 00:14:40,230 It's not, it's not that hot. 395 00:14:40,530 --> 00:14:42,780 And I put a lot on, I saw you put a lot on too. 396 00:14:42,875 --> 00:14:43,295 Mm-hmm. 397 00:14:43,955 --> 00:14:44,175 Um 398 00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:47,250 hmm. 399 00:14:48,750 --> 00:14:49,680 Most memorable meal. 400 00:14:51,390 --> 00:14:54,210 You know, one of the things that I get a lot. 401 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:02,730 And drives me crazy is when we go to someone's house and they get all 402 00:15:02,730 --> 00:15:07,170 weird about cooking for me and they're like, oh my God, I'm so stressed. 403 00:15:07,170 --> 00:15:09,090 Like I'm not gonna see who it is. 404 00:15:09,090 --> 00:15:09,660 But we went, 405 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:12,060 there's a few people, there's a number of people who've done that. 406 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:15,115 They say, I can't believe I'm, I'm well, I'm cooking for a chef and I'm stressed. 407 00:15:15,115 --> 00:15:15,515 Mm-hmm. 408 00:15:15,930 --> 00:15:19,560 And I can remember one recently and he was an amazing chef. 409 00:15:20,130 --> 00:15:22,560 It was, it was like better than most restaurants in Vancouver. 410 00:15:22,565 --> 00:15:22,915 Mm-hmm. 411 00:15:22,995 --> 00:15:25,590 Like that we all like regularly eat out in Vancouver, like high-end restaurants. 412 00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:27,060 And this is just a guy cooking in his home. 413 00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:30,390 Like he's obviously a massive foodie, very talented, like, 414 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:31,770 oh, so good. 415 00:15:31,770 --> 00:15:34,830 It was unbelievably good and he was putting his heart into it. 416 00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:39,270 But there was so much like insecurity about cooking for a chef. 417 00:15:39,930 --> 00:15:45,000 And one of the things that I love so much, it means so much to 418 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,740 me, is when people cook for me. 419 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:47,760 'cause I feel like. 420 00:15:48,405 --> 00:15:50,145 I'm often doing, doing the cooking. 421 00:15:50,145 --> 00:15:54,015 So just to have someone else cook for me is such a treat. 422 00:15:54,135 --> 00:15:54,375 Mm-hmm. 423 00:15:54,675 --> 00:15:59,955 Um, I mean even, even that meal that we had with, with a friend that, that cooked 424 00:15:59,955 --> 00:16:01,875 and it was just, it was unbelievably good. 425 00:16:01,875 --> 00:16:03,255 Like it was great conversation. 426 00:16:03,255 --> 00:16:03,315 Yeah. 427 00:16:03,315 --> 00:16:04,170 He made a five course meal, 428 00:16:04,545 --> 00:16:08,415 he like went out to his backyard and picked apples and baked them in the oven. 429 00:16:08,415 --> 00:16:12,765 Like it was just, it was, there was so much heart and love into the food. 430 00:16:12,765 --> 00:16:18,735 And, and for me, I don't like, typically high end, especially like French 431 00:16:18,735 --> 00:16:21,315 restaurants where, you know, there's like 50 people in the restaurant all 432 00:16:21,315 --> 00:16:22,785 touching your food a zillion times. 433 00:16:22,785 --> 00:16:27,345 You can have like super, like precious food. 434 00:16:28,005 --> 00:16:32,595 I like getting my hands dirty to eating tacos or street meat in Mexico 435 00:16:32,595 --> 00:16:36,375 and like, like, I like food where there's real heart and soul in it. 436 00:16:36,375 --> 00:16:36,765 So. 437 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:42,510 Real memorable meals is like one when we would, would take the boat over to 438 00:16:42,510 --> 00:16:47,280 Galliano and pick oysters off the beach and like eat raw oysters with the kids 439 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:52,950 like that, that will stay with me, like digging clams with my grandpa in 440 00:16:52,950 --> 00:16:58,020 Nova Scotia and coming home and having fresh clams with, with my grandparents 441 00:16:58,020 --> 00:17:00,120 and marsh greens that my uncle picked. 442 00:17:00,300 --> 00:17:07,319 Um, those, those meals will always be so much more memorable than 443 00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:08,460 eating in a fancy restaurant. 444 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,510 You know, isn't it funny that you can eat in super fine dining and you 445 00:17:12,510 --> 00:17:17,670 can have maybe the same or similar food in a different situation and 446 00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:19,350 it totally changes the context 447 00:17:19,530 --> 00:17:19,710 hundred 448 00:17:19,710 --> 00:17:19,890 percent. 449 00:17:19,890 --> 00:17:26,460 Like I remember eating week old Cheesies Haw Hawkins Cheesies that were 450 00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:30,060 portioned out into the little Ziploc bags that we're carrying in a backpack. 451 00:17:30,060 --> 00:17:33,300 And I could only have so many Cheesies a day if I wanted to make 452 00:17:33,300 --> 00:17:34,920 sure over the next week and a bit. 453 00:17:35,775 --> 00:17:36,975 Oh, that was in spa. 454 00:17:37,575 --> 00:17:37,665 Yep. 455 00:17:37,905 --> 00:17:38,715 Fly in hunt. 456 00:17:38,775 --> 00:17:45,375 And um, we were on a caribou hunt and man, after hiking for miles and miles 457 00:17:45,375 --> 00:17:51,495 at the heavy pack and when you can sit down and have some water, have 458 00:17:51,495 --> 00:17:57,705 some sausage, cheese, something to get the electrolytes go on, some salts 459 00:17:58,004 --> 00:17:59,805 like that just sticks in your mind. 460 00:17:59,895 --> 00:17:59,985 Mm-hmm. 461 00:18:00,764 --> 00:18:04,845 I can think of some terrible meals too, and it's funny how the situation 462 00:18:04,845 --> 00:18:09,165 around those meals can dictate how your body responds to it in the future. 463 00:18:09,645 --> 00:18:09,705 Yeah. 464 00:18:09,795 --> 00:18:11,264 Uh, case in point, porridge, 465 00:18:13,725 --> 00:18:19,815 I don't know, like I want to like pos so much because it's easy, it's cheap, 466 00:18:19,815 --> 00:18:24,254 it's, uh, filling and it would be a great back country food to, to like, and I. 467 00:18:25,635 --> 00:18:29,115 I just have a hard time choking that down. 468 00:18:29,115 --> 00:18:30,375 And I think it's a texture thing. 469 00:18:30,675 --> 00:18:31,305 And trauma 470 00:18:31,965 --> 00:18:32,745 and trauma. 471 00:18:33,135 --> 00:18:34,185 Texture and trauma. 472 00:18:34,215 --> 00:18:34,455 Yeah. 473 00:18:34,455 --> 00:18:39,285 I remember, uh, it was, uh, maybe I should leave names out, but it was being 474 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:44,805 served to me at a young age by a person who was caregiving for other children. 475 00:18:44,805 --> 00:18:49,485 And this one child would throw up apparently on demand. 476 00:18:49,575 --> 00:18:55,065 And, uh, at one point she, um, she threw up in her porridge in the morning 477 00:18:55,545 --> 00:19:00,015 and given the fact that she had a history of throwing up, the caregiver 478 00:19:00,015 --> 00:19:02,895 said, you still have to eat it. 479 00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:07,425 And everyone at the table had to eat when we watched her eat her vomit and porridge. 480 00:19:07,425 --> 00:19:12,675 And I, I can recall, uh, growing up in the household, porridge 481 00:19:12,675 --> 00:19:13,875 is a common thing for us. 482 00:19:13,875 --> 00:19:17,385 And we'd have it for breakfast every day of the week. 483 00:19:17,385 --> 00:19:19,905 And if you didn't eat it for breakfast, it's your lunch. 484 00:19:19,905 --> 00:19:21,495 You don't have it for lunch, it's for dinner. 485 00:19:21,495 --> 00:19:24,495 And a week would go by without eating anything. 486 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,220 Other than hopefully maybe reheated and there wasn't a microwave 487 00:19:29,220 --> 00:19:30,390 reheated, it's on the stove. 488 00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:35,430 So it comes out like it's pretty solid by the time you get to day five, that 489 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:37,410 sticks in your head from a young age. 490 00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:38,310 And 491 00:19:38,490 --> 00:19:41,400 I think you should talk to professionals and just really like, crack this nuts. 492 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,890 So we could get to the bottom of why you don't like porage. 493 00:19:43,890 --> 00:19:44,865 Like it just doesn't sense. 494 00:19:45,505 --> 00:19:45,825 I don't get it. 495 00:19:45,825 --> 00:19:46,105 I dunno. 496 00:19:46,385 --> 00:19:46,705 I don't know. 497 00:19:46,705 --> 00:19:46,905 But 498 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,810 it's something really deep, deep seated, 499 00:19:48,930 --> 00:19:50,220 you know, in the same breath. 500 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:50,340 Mm-hmm. 501 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,060 Uh, Thanksgiving dinner was never my favorite. 502 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:58,110 And I remember one time I came back from a long day at work. 503 00:19:58,350 --> 00:20:03,210 You came back from a long day at work, you were working in the kitchen and you're 504 00:20:03,210 --> 00:20:05,370 like, I'm making you a Thanksgiving meal. 505 00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:06,660 And I'm like, oh, great. 506 00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:09,870 Like, I don't even, I don't like Thanksgiving meals. 507 00:20:09,870 --> 00:20:14,825 I mean Turkey that's dry and overcooked vegetables and, and 508 00:20:14,830 --> 00:20:16,140 all the rest that goes with it. 509 00:20:16,770 --> 00:20:19,710 But I'm gonna have to pretend, I'm gonna have to pretend like I like this. 510 00:20:19,710 --> 00:20:19,720 Mm-hmm. 511 00:20:19,885 --> 00:20:20,105 And. 512 00:20:21,225 --> 00:20:22,784 My mind was absolutely blown. 513 00:20:22,784 --> 00:20:26,805 I went a complete 180 degrees from something that I did not look forward 514 00:20:26,805 --> 00:20:29,955 to, that I was like trying to work myself up to wanting to actually eat 515 00:20:29,955 --> 00:20:32,415 this thing, to just being blown away. 516 00:20:32,655 --> 00:20:34,665 You're like, well, of course your Turkey was dry. 517 00:20:34,665 --> 00:20:36,195 You don't put the whole Turkey in the oven. 518 00:20:36,195 --> 00:20:37,455 You're supposed to cook. 519 00:20:37,580 --> 00:20:41,085 You, you take it apart and you cook the legs separate from the breast, and they, 520 00:20:41,175 --> 00:20:44,294 they're ready at different times and different temperatures, and your stuffing 521 00:20:44,294 --> 00:20:46,305 should have sausage in it and nuts. 522 00:20:46,305 --> 00:20:50,715 And, uh, it, it shouldn't just be bread that's been sitting inside a, uh, turkey's 523 00:20:50,745 --> 00:20:55,395 raw belly for a while, and when you pick up your vegetables, it shouldn't 524 00:20:55,395 --> 00:20:57,280 fall through the th So if your fork, 525 00:20:57,585 --> 00:20:57,915 yeah. 526 00:20:57,945 --> 00:20:58,605 Not so much. 527 00:20:59,385 --> 00:21:04,965 So yeah, memorable meals, definitely the experience surrounding the meal for 528 00:21:04,965 --> 00:21:07,575 me really makes something memorable. 529 00:21:07,635 --> 00:21:07,815 Yeah. 530 00:21:08,445 --> 00:21:08,715 Yeah. 531 00:21:09,075 --> 00:21:11,325 I mean, some, like you talked about, some of the worst ones 532 00:21:12,105 --> 00:21:14,264 were the expectation was so high. 533 00:21:14,925 --> 00:21:19,665 You go into the restaurant and because everything wasn't absolutely perfect. 534 00:21:19,755 --> 00:21:19,845 Mm-hmm. 535 00:21:19,845 --> 00:21:20,985 The music was too loud. 536 00:21:21,195 --> 00:21:22,995 The broccoli Rob was really tough. 537 00:21:23,205 --> 00:21:26,360 And when they ask you how your meal was and you say something about it and you 538 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:29,625 throw it back in your face and act like you're gonna steal the steak knives 539 00:21:30,105 --> 00:21:31,360 because you told them don't exactly 540 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:31,720 what restaurant, 541 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,955 because you told them you like them. 542 00:21:32,955 --> 00:21:33,165 Yeah. 543 00:21:33,165 --> 00:21:34,665 Mary Vitali restaurant, 544 00:21:34,665 --> 00:21:36,315 didn't that get himself in trouble for Uh, 545 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:36,440 yes. 546 00:21:36,510 --> 00:21:37,320 This was being 547 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,280 a perv or something. 548 00:21:38,350 --> 00:21:42,795 Yeah, it there, I think there's probably bad aura around his place. 549 00:21:42,795 --> 00:21:45,945 And we went in and I, it was like, that was the most disappointing 550 00:21:45,945 --> 00:21:47,385 meal I've had in a, in a kitchen. 551 00:21:47,385 --> 00:21:49,125 Like paid, paid for a meal. 552 00:21:49,605 --> 00:21:52,695 But everything about it was just bad vibes. 553 00:21:53,205 --> 00:21:54,435 Well, should we try the next wing? 554 00:21:54,495 --> 00:21:55,215 Yeah, let's do it. 555 00:21:55,305 --> 00:21:55,605 Okay. 556 00:21:55,605 --> 00:21:56,295 What's the next one we have 557 00:21:56,295 --> 00:21:56,355 on 558 00:21:56,355 --> 00:21:57,000 the list? 559 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,680 Uh, next one. 560 00:21:58,305 --> 00:21:58,845 Oh, you got it? 561 00:21:58,995 --> 00:21:59,445 I think so. 562 00:21:59,445 --> 00:22:00,015 Let's see. 563 00:22:00,015 --> 00:22:00,525 Is this it? 564 00:22:00,530 --> 00:22:00,800 Yeah. 565 00:22:00,945 --> 00:22:01,305 Okay. 566 00:22:02,145 --> 00:22:02,895 No, you should read it. 567 00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:06,345 Okay. 568 00:22:06,345 --> 00:22:07,035 It's, uh. 569 00:22:09,825 --> 00:22:09,975 Ores. 570 00:22:09,975 --> 00:22:10,275 Yeah. 571 00:22:10,275 --> 00:22:10,995 I don't know how to say it. 572 00:22:10,995 --> 00:22:13,845 It's like when, when you get the corn with like the cheese and the spices and 573 00:22:13,845 --> 00:22:18,105 stuff on it, it elote loco, plant-based, no refined sugar and gluten-free. 574 00:22:18,105 --> 00:22:18,435 So, 575 00:22:18,495 --> 00:22:21,345 so the top of it's got these red oil layer. 576 00:22:21,345 --> 00:22:21,435 Yeah, 577 00:22:22,125 --> 00:22:25,575 I shook it up R 'cause it was like, oh god, I don't wanna pour oil on 578 00:22:25,575 --> 00:22:28,065 the chicken wings, but I shook it really well before putting it on. 579 00:22:28,185 --> 00:22:28,815 Let's have it up. 580 00:22:29,175 --> 00:22:34,215 Oh yeah, we gotta, Deb it, um, do we wanna see? 581 00:22:35,265 --> 00:22:36,375 Yeah, it doesn't, I 582 00:22:36,375 --> 00:22:37,365 can read it while you're eating. 583 00:22:37,515 --> 00:22:37,935 Oh, okay. 584 00:22:37,935 --> 00:22:39,915 Gives you a chance to get some food in your mouth so we have 585 00:22:39,945 --> 00:22:40,425 Oh, sure, sure. 586 00:22:40,425 --> 00:22:40,635 Sure. 587 00:22:44,580 --> 00:22:45,630 That's a good amount. 588 00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:46,050 Yeah. 589 00:22:46,590 --> 00:22:48,600 I notice that half of it was poured on your plate. 590 00:22:48,690 --> 00:22:51,150 Well, it, yeah, but I'll fix it. 591 00:22:51,150 --> 00:22:51,420 Don't worry. 592 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,140 All right. 593 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:55,800 This is where the flats really have the double-edged sword, 594 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,910 because they can hold a lot. 595 00:22:57,660 --> 00:22:57,870 Mm-hmm. 596 00:22:59,165 --> 00:23:04,590 KO fire addition, plant-based, no refined sugar, gluten-free. 597 00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:05,340 That's good to know us. 598 00:23:05,340 --> 00:23:05,580 And 599 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,630 it's definitely hotter 600 00:23:06,810 --> 00:23:08,430 artisanal hot sauce. 601 00:23:08,730 --> 00:23:09,450 Oh, this is fun. 602 00:23:10,110 --> 00:23:10,590 Okay. 603 00:23:10,650 --> 00:23:11,250 Oh, wow. 604 00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:11,670 Yeah. 605 00:23:11,670 --> 00:23:12,210 No, it's, it's way 606 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:12,600 hotter. 607 00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:15,780 So heat level, it goes from meh to just silly. 608 00:23:15,780 --> 00:23:18,210 And it's apparently in the just silly category. 609 00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:18,840 Okay. 610 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,860 Let's pour some one here. 611 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:22,440 Ooh. 612 00:23:22,530 --> 00:23:22,890 Yeah, 613 00:23:25,260 --> 00:23:26,340 for like a second. 614 00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:27,870 You're like, wow, that tastes really good. 615 00:23:27,870 --> 00:23:29,310 And then it's like, it's just hot. 616 00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:31,050 All right. 617 00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:36,730 So death meal, TIFF, what are we looking at? 618 00:23:37,865 --> 00:23:37,985 Hmm. 619 00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:42,960 Oh my gosh. 620 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,940 Did you bring a garbage again? 621 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,370 Nope. 622 00:23:47,575 --> 00:23:47,865 Okay. 623 00:23:48,004 --> 00:23:48,705 Um, throw 624 00:23:48,705 --> 00:23:49,145 it on the ground. 625 00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:52,185 There you go. 626 00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:52,770 Okay. 627 00:23:52,770 --> 00:23:53,070 Cool. 628 00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:54,540 Death meal. 629 00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:55,530 Um, 630 00:23:59,010 --> 00:24:00,120 uh, multiple cores. 631 00:24:01,710 --> 00:24:02,190 Your meal. 632 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:04,620 Okay. 633 00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:09,360 Uh, has to have oysters, fresh oysters. 634 00:24:09,659 --> 00:24:13,020 I've come to realize, I'm sorry, west coasters, but 635 00:24:13,020 --> 00:24:15,000 east coast oysters are better. 636 00:24:16,590 --> 00:24:19,740 I love east coast oyster oysters So much more than West coast. 637 00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:22,530 Remember the, uh, the oysters we had East coast? 638 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:22,830 Yeah. 639 00:24:22,889 --> 00:24:24,240 Trevor arm guys. 640 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,480 Yeah. 641 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,560 Armament technology. 642 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,700 Holy crow. 643 00:24:26,850 --> 00:24:27,540 They're so good. 644 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,470 They were so damn good. 645 00:24:28,590 --> 00:24:34,649 So first of all, I'm gonna start with a gin martini, uh, with 646 00:24:34,889 --> 00:24:36,840 blue cheese stuffed olives. 647 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:38,639 Uh. 648 00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:43,140 Some, um, fresh oysters. 649 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:49,740 Um, and then I'm gonna roll into, what else am I gonna have? 650 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:51,960 Uh, there's gonna be a steak in there. 651 00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:56,940 Just grilled steak has to be broccoli. 652 00:24:57,930 --> 00:24:59,850 Maybe some nice charred broccoli on the side. 653 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,440 You're having a hard time with this heat, aren't you? 654 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:01,530 I 655 00:25:01,530 --> 00:25:03,030 dunno why this one's so hot. 656 00:25:03,810 --> 00:25:04,170 Uh, 657 00:25:05,910 --> 00:25:06,930 it's only number four. 658 00:25:06,930 --> 00:25:07,590 I know. 659 00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:08,040 I know. 660 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,270 This is gonna be a rough one for me. 661 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,150 Uh, there has to be some sort of potato dish for sure. 662 00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:14,910 Probably like roasted and duck fat. 663 00:25:14,910 --> 00:25:16,335 Uh, a little bit of rose there. 664 00:25:16,335 --> 00:25:16,920 Yeah, you introduce you 665 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,275 to that. 666 00:25:17,275 --> 00:25:17,755 That's good. 667 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,390 Duck fat. 668 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:21,600 Roasted potatoes are just like, you don't have to get super fancy. 669 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,100 Just good potatoes. 670 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,630 Westham island potatoes. 671 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,200 Gotcha. 672 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,160 That roast and duck fat. 673 00:25:27,060 --> 00:25:27,720 Nice. 674 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,860 Medium rare steak. 675 00:25:29,670 --> 00:25:30,330 Broccoli. 676 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:32,220 'cause broccoli's the best vegetable ever. 677 00:25:32,940 --> 00:25:37,980 Um, and then like panna cotta for dessert. 678 00:25:39,075 --> 00:25:39,465 Okay. 679 00:25:39,855 --> 00:25:42,795 See, I never even took into mind dessert on a death row 680 00:25:42,795 --> 00:25:44,025 meal, but of course, why not? 681 00:25:44,025 --> 00:25:44,265 Right? 682 00:25:44,325 --> 00:25:44,655 Yeah. 683 00:25:44,655 --> 00:25:48,765 I mean, I, I mean, you know me, I don't typically eat too much dessert. 684 00:25:49,095 --> 00:25:52,845 Uh, and if I am gonna have dessert, it's cheese or something like that. 685 00:25:52,845 --> 00:25:54,945 But yeah, I think panna cotta, 686 00:25:55,515 --> 00:25:57,915 I think this extra dabbing is a brilliant idea. 687 00:25:58,185 --> 00:26:00,495 I think it's gonna like mess us up. 688 00:26:00,570 --> 00:26:01,545 Oh, I, I do too. 689 00:26:01,635 --> 00:26:05,025 Um, and the water that we have in front of us, 690 00:26:05,025 --> 00:26:06,165 I, I'm not gonna touch it. 691 00:26:06,495 --> 00:26:08,895 I mean, I'm feeling tempted right now to have some 692 00:26:08,985 --> 00:26:09,045 Yeah. 693 00:26:09,285 --> 00:26:12,465 Even though the trick always is you don't have any, you just 694 00:26:12,465 --> 00:26:15,270 sit there and you raw a it. 695 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:16,430 Yeah. 696 00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:17,745 I don't, I don't like that term. 697 00:26:19,185 --> 00:26:20,145 No, no. 698 00:26:20,145 --> 00:26:22,815 I think the kids nowadays use it a little different, but, um, 699 00:26:23,025 --> 00:26:23,205 yep. 700 00:26:23,415 --> 00:26:28,790 You take beer, you take water, and you, it just spreads the heat everywhere. 701 00:26:28,790 --> 00:26:29,030 Mm-hmm. 702 00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:30,855 And it feels good for a second, and then it's gone. 703 00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:31,530 Yep. 704 00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:33,600 It's like the opposite of that last wing. 705 00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:33,720 Yeah. 706 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,720 When I say gone, I mean the, the relief it provides is gone. 707 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:36,780 Yeah. 708 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,550 And you also got some Pepto Bismal too, 709 00:26:38,670 --> 00:26:38,790 right? 710 00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:38,910 I do. 711 00:26:38,910 --> 00:26:39,360 Yeah. 712 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:40,410 That actually does help. 713 00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:41,070 Does it? 714 00:26:41,370 --> 00:26:41,610 Yeah. 715 00:26:41,610 --> 00:26:42,270 Oh, a hundred percent. 716 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,080 Okay. 717 00:26:43,530 --> 00:26:43,740 Yep. 718 00:26:44,190 --> 00:26:46,290 So, uh, death row meal for me. 719 00:26:46,380 --> 00:26:46,470 Yeah. 720 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:47,010 I don't know. 721 00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:49,200 Um, I like hot dogs. 722 00:26:50,610 --> 00:26:51,750 You do like hot dogs? 723 00:26:52,290 --> 00:26:54,570 I could, if someone, it all depends. 724 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,610 'cause remember how we talked about situations? 725 00:26:56,610 --> 00:26:59,880 So death, row meal, what kind of a facility am I in? 726 00:26:59,970 --> 00:27:05,580 Um, what's it like, what's the, um, uh, what's the ambience of the, uh, 727 00:27:05,850 --> 00:27:08,100 I'm, I'm guessing I'm in a prison cell if it's a death row meal. 728 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,050 Well, I feel like hot dogs are one of those things that like, 729 00:27:10,050 --> 00:27:13,110 you could eat anywhere and it probably doesn't matter as much. 730 00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:16,290 It's not like you're cracking a lobster tail. 731 00:27:16,290 --> 00:27:18,780 Well, there's a difference between a hot dog and a good hot dog. 732 00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:18,990 Yep. 733 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,100 Or a burger. 734 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:20,940 And a good burger. 735 00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:23,040 Like, man, I love a good burger. 736 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,050 Mm-hmm. 737 00:27:23,130 --> 00:27:24,480 You make an amazing burger. 738 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:24,659 Yeah. 739 00:27:25,409 --> 00:27:26,429 ' cause it's all about the meat. 740 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,449 And we, I I was actually talking not to hijack your death meal. 741 00:27:30,449 --> 00:27:30,899 Hijack away. 742 00:27:31,379 --> 00:27:31,649 Okay. 743 00:27:31,889 --> 00:27:36,929 Talking to Hank Shaw the other day about, uh, hamburgers and how he and his 744 00:27:36,929 --> 00:27:40,590 perspective hamburgers should be like, like this big, like three inches max. 745 00:27:40,590 --> 00:27:42,270 And it's just a few bites and you have it. 746 00:27:42,270 --> 00:27:44,250 And I'm like, totally agree. 747 00:27:44,610 --> 00:27:49,560 Second, you start layering it with crap that doesn't, that takes away or 748 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,969 takes the attention away from the meat. 749 00:27:50,969 --> 00:27:51,240 Sorry. 750 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,350 Three layers of, 751 00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:53,159 no. 752 00:27:53,159 --> 00:27:53,459 Three 753 00:27:53,459 --> 00:27:53,760 inches. 754 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:53,770 Inches. 755 00:27:53,770 --> 00:27:55,110 So three bites of hotdog, a 756 00:27:55,169 --> 00:27:55,649 hamburger. 757 00:27:55,860 --> 00:27:56,340 Oh, Hamburg. 758 00:27:56,344 --> 00:27:56,514 Mm-hmm. 759 00:27:57,629 --> 00:27:57,639 Okay. 760 00:27:57,639 --> 00:27:57,659 Three bites. 761 00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:57,810 Yeah. 762 00:27:57,870 --> 00:27:59,310 No, hotdog should be like, 763 00:27:59,699 --> 00:28:00,034 yeah, sure. 764 00:28:00,064 --> 00:28:00,514 Yeah, yeah. 765 00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:02,429 Uh, but hamburgers, yeah. 766 00:28:02,429 --> 00:28:03,899 Just like it should be. 767 00:28:03,899 --> 00:28:04,889 And you have a few of them. 768 00:28:04,889 --> 00:28:05,070 Yeah. 769 00:28:05,070 --> 00:28:05,699 And you can't have too much. 770 00:28:05,790 --> 00:28:05,969 Yeah. 771 00:28:05,969 --> 00:28:07,860 You can't have too much bread on a hamburger. 772 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:08,070 Yes. 773 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:09,270 And just be squidgy bread. 774 00:28:09,629 --> 00:28:10,350 All about the meat. 775 00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:12,389 Yeah. 776 00:28:12,689 --> 00:28:16,050 Maybe, maybe like some caramelized onions or a piece of good cheddar or 777 00:28:16,050 --> 00:28:17,399 something, but like, not too much. 778 00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:20,820 And I guess for a dessert, what a, like a poor man's pudding maybe? 779 00:28:20,970 --> 00:28:21,120 Hmm. 780 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:21,659 Yeah. 781 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,050 Good. 782 00:28:22,050 --> 00:28:25,620 So I don't know what it's, I remember we're in, uh, like growing up, I'd 783 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:27,480 make poor man's pudding all the time. 784 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,600 And that was, as a kid, as a kid, we'd have dessert with every meal. 785 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,590 Mm-hmm. 786 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:32,340 Uh, not me. 787 00:28:32,430 --> 00:28:34,055 Some, sometimes even with breakfast. 788 00:28:34,055 --> 00:28:34,375 Right. 789 00:28:34,635 --> 00:28:36,540 But every dinner had dessert. 790 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:36,990 Yeah. 791 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:43,020 Um, my mom would make cookies or cinnamon buns or pies like every single day. 792 00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:47,790 And part of me kind of wonders if maybe my early a DH ADHD diagnosis 793 00:28:47,790 --> 00:28:48,899 may if it's sugar related. 794 00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:50,460 Of course not. 795 00:28:50,790 --> 00:28:51,389 It could never be. 796 00:28:52,409 --> 00:28:56,070 I'm actually surprised that you didn't say sitting around a fire grilling 797 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:57,360 chicken as part of your death meal. 798 00:28:57,419 --> 00:28:58,560 Oh, yeah. 799 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,590 Well, you know, in that same vein, because I don't know if they'd 800 00:29:01,590 --> 00:29:02,850 let you cook around the fire. 801 00:29:02,850 --> 00:29:04,200 Like that's, that's the environment. 802 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,909 But I, what was that movie where buddy gets a, uh, uh, t-bone steak? 803 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,210 He was in, I think he did the voiceover for Nick Niks, um, 804 00:29:12,419 --> 00:29:15,735 shadow Company, um, Scottish guy. 805 00:29:16,335 --> 00:29:19,425 Anyways, he gets a T-bone steak and he uses it as a, uh, push knife. 806 00:29:19,575 --> 00:29:22,845 Like, you know, if, if you're thinking like that and having a fire and 807 00:29:23,115 --> 00:29:24,945 utensils and I'm preparing myself, 808 00:29:24,945 --> 00:29:26,430 I think you're deviating away from the spirit of the question. 809 00:29:27,255 --> 00:29:27,645 I don't know. 810 00:29:27,675 --> 00:29:28,365 That was a good movie. 811 00:29:28,395 --> 00:29:29,415 It ended poorly. 812 00:29:29,445 --> 00:29:29,535 Mm-hmm. 813 00:29:29,535 --> 00:29:31,905 But, uh, something I did realize. 814 00:29:31,905 --> 00:29:32,030 Jar Butler. 815 00:29:32,380 --> 00:29:32,670 Yeah. 816 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,470 Juror Butler. 817 00:29:33,705 --> 00:29:34,215 There you go. 818 00:29:35,205 --> 00:29:40,035 I guess, uh, I think he went to school or, um, he somehow Nick and 819 00:29:40,035 --> 00:29:45,015 him cross paths and uh, he was able to do the VO for his show there. 820 00:29:45,585 --> 00:29:48,255 Good show, by the way, shadow Company that's going back a little bit. 821 00:29:48,945 --> 00:29:51,435 Um, I think it's, you can watch it on YouTube. 822 00:29:51,765 --> 00:29:52,335 Oh, there you go. 823 00:29:52,380 --> 00:29:52,930 There you go. 824 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:55,850 So, um, 825 00:29:56,025 --> 00:29:58,635 so hotdog, that's, that's your death row meal hotdog and poor band pudding. 826 00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:00,210 I don't know. 827 00:30:00,210 --> 00:30:02,640 They've been working way too damn hard cooking for you all these 828 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,200 years if that's your death reveal, 829 00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:08,910 you know, uh, well past, uh, Putin esque, that's eska. 830 00:30:11,790 --> 00:30:14,730 That was one thing that you'd make like when, uh, teenagers and we're 831 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:19,005 dating and I'd come over to your, your place there and past, uh, Putin esque. 832 00:30:19,425 --> 00:30:19,805 Oh my 833 00:30:19,805 --> 00:30:19,885 God. 834 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,100 Uh, yeah. 835 00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:26,340 Just, I, I think it's because it brings you back to a time or makes you 836 00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:29,100 think of something like the other day you're like, oh, look it, we got some, 837 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,890 we're down at, um, Olympia Provisions. 838 00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:32,160 Yep. 839 00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:34,260 In, uh, in Portland, Oregon. 840 00:30:35,460 --> 00:30:37,860 He's been on your podcast, Elias Cairo. 841 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,250 Mm-hmm. 842 00:30:38,490 --> 00:30:39,510 Hell of a cool guy. 843 00:30:39,690 --> 00:30:39,780 Yep. 844 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:41,880 He's, uh, got some restaurants. 845 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,030 He's got this amazing US 846 00:30:45,030 --> 00:30:47,445 F-D-A-U-S-D-A-U-S-D-A, 847 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:51,840 um, facility where he is processing. 848 00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:55,530 Provisions for like high-end GR chains. 849 00:30:55,530 --> 00:30:57,150 He makes the best sausages in America. 850 00:30:57,155 --> 00:30:59,425 He is a sausage king of Oregon. 851 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,610 He, he wouldn't, I don't think he, I don't know. 852 00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:06,870 He's a humble, he's a very humble, down to earth guy, but dear God, 853 00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:10,140 like his stuff is so good, so good. 854 00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:12,270 Like, it, it rivals anything you're gonna have in Europe. 855 00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:15,865 And he, he would never say it, but it does, I'm gonna say it, but 856 00:31:15,930 --> 00:31:18,930 to put something, one of his sausages into a hotdog mm-hmm. 857 00:31:19,025 --> 00:31:20,160 Would be, I don't know. 858 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,920 There's something about the, the gritty, uh, Costco hotdog. 859 00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:26,070 Yeah. 860 00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:26,430 Right. 861 00:31:26,490 --> 00:31:32,250 Like a Nathan's hotdog, a Costco hotdog, and with the right Aman and get the bun 862 00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:35,250 and toast it up and all the rest, yeah. 863 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,420 That and a beer done. 864 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,370 Maybe poor man's pudding for dessert maybe. 865 00:31:39,630 --> 00:31:41,940 I think maybe, but it'll change, right? 866 00:31:41,940 --> 00:31:42,000 Yeah. 867 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,730 I mean, 'cause right now it's based on the environment and what, where 868 00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:45,690 your head's thinking and what, 869 00:31:45,865 --> 00:31:45,905 Hmm. 870 00:31:47,070 --> 00:31:48,180 You got sausages on the brain 871 00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:51,120 apparent apparently. 872 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,220 Um, do we wanna try the next wing? 873 00:31:53,460 --> 00:31:54,330 Yes, I think so. 874 00:31:54,420 --> 00:31:55,950 Uh, let me see here. 875 00:31:55,950 --> 00:31:56,760 What do we got? 876 00:31:57,930 --> 00:31:59,760 Uh, we didn't do this one yet. 877 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,120 Five. 878 00:32:00,150 --> 00:32:00,390 Okay. 879 00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:01,290 My nose is running. 880 00:32:01,590 --> 00:32:02,400 Yeah, I know. 881 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,150 Uh, 882 00:32:03,210 --> 00:32:03,930 I got Kleenex here. 883 00:32:04,170 --> 00:32:04,650 Oh, thank you. 884 00:32:07,620 --> 00:32:08,130 Hot ones. 885 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,740 Roho lost Kelly Andante hot sauce. 886 00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:13,170 Heat level five outta 10, which is convenient 'cause 887 00:32:13,170 --> 00:32:15,300 it's five out of the 10 sauces. 888 00:32:15,390 --> 00:32:15,810 Gotcha. 889 00:32:16,410 --> 00:32:17,070 Um, 890 00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:19,800 it sounds like their scale is based on their own hot sauce. 891 00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:20,130 Yep. 892 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:20,610 Yep. 893 00:32:20,610 --> 00:32:21,960 Production, it's, it's medium. 894 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,760 There's no, I can, I can't see a school ville, but 895 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:23,970 Okay. 896 00:32:24,030 --> 00:32:24,540 Give it a shake. 897 00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:25,170 Give her a 898 00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:26,160 Right, right, right. 899 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,750 I feel like mine's super caked already, but whatever. 900 00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:31,590 I tell ya, 901 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,120 you only live once Yolo, right? 902 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,420 Travis? 903 00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:35,430 No half measures. 904 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,050 Who says yolo? 905 00:32:37,535 --> 00:32:37,975 I just did. 906 00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:40,830 I think no half measures. 907 00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:40,950 Measures. 908 00:32:41,490 --> 00:32:42,570 That's a good way to live a life. 909 00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:42,870 Mm-hmm. 910 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:46,860 Because we finished that episode, we got through it and we're 911 00:32:46,860 --> 00:32:48,240 like, eh, it wasn't that hot. 912 00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:50,820 'cause we didn't have enough sauce caked on it. 913 00:32:50,825 --> 00:32:50,985 Mm-hmm. 914 00:32:51,070 --> 00:32:53,730 And so we had, what does that mean? 915 00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:54,990 Then we have to do it again. 916 00:32:54,990 --> 00:32:56,100 Cook up some more hot wings. 917 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,250 Yep. 918 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,450 Rerecord the episode. 919 00:32:57,450 --> 00:32:59,220 We lost a lot of the gold that was in there. 920 00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:03,600 But, uh, you know, I think, um, the best thing we took out 921 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,860 of that is this life lesson. 922 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,740 And whenever we get into something, it's like, no half measures. 923 00:33:07,770 --> 00:33:08,640 You don't half ass it. 924 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,630 Full ass all the way. 925 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:11,130 Full bare ass. 926 00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:12,720 Full bare ass all the way. 927 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,110 Okay. 928 00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:14,490 This one is not as hot as one before. 929 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:14,970 Really? 930 00:33:15,390 --> 00:33:15,990 That's sweet. 931 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,200 Los ante Rojo. 932 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,940 Good old rojo. 933 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,450 Okay, so it's my turn to eat one, but maybe I should ask you a question. 934 00:33:25,290 --> 00:33:26,700 So as a kid 935 00:33:26,705 --> 00:33:26,815 mm-hmm. 936 00:33:28,485 --> 00:33:29,175 What'd you wanna do? 937 00:33:29,175 --> 00:33:30,645 Did you always know you're gonna be a chef? 938 00:33:30,765 --> 00:33:35,445 I kind of know the answer to this, but I am curious about, uh, the progression 939 00:33:35,445 --> 00:33:37,035 and path and what got you in here. 940 00:33:37,425 --> 00:33:40,395 'cause it'll lead up to another question, which will be highly inflammatory. 941 00:33:40,395 --> 00:33:41,595 But I think I have a, uh, 942 00:33:42,015 --> 00:33:42,315 amazing, 943 00:33:42,465 --> 00:33:49,035 I think I have a, uh, I idea of who you are and how you would take it. 944 00:33:49,335 --> 00:33:49,935 So go ahead. 945 00:33:51,225 --> 00:33:51,675 Looking forward to it. 946 00:33:53,325 --> 00:33:54,045 Uh, okay. 947 00:33:54,045 --> 00:33:55,785 Growing up as a kid, what did I wanna do? 948 00:33:56,415 --> 00:33:57,165 Um, 949 00:33:58,035 --> 00:33:58,125 good. 950 00:33:59,205 --> 00:33:59,655 Yeah, I know. 951 00:33:59,655 --> 00:34:00,135 That was good. 952 00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:00,580 It was sweet. 953 00:34:00,825 --> 00:34:01,155 Yeah. 954 00:34:01,605 --> 00:34:04,605 Um, I. I think like most kids, I wanna be a scientist. 955 00:34:04,815 --> 00:34:08,985 I envision myself in the future in lab coat mixing things up. 956 00:34:09,615 --> 00:34:10,605 Was I good at science? 957 00:34:10,605 --> 00:34:10,995 No. 958 00:34:10,995 --> 00:34:11,955 Was I good at chemistry? 959 00:34:11,955 --> 00:34:12,735 No, I wasn't. 960 00:34:12,795 --> 00:34:15,284 Uh, and I liked animals, so I wanted to be a vet. 961 00:34:15,284 --> 00:34:19,905 But again, the reality of it, when I got to the point where I would start 962 00:34:19,905 --> 00:34:22,784 making decisions to go that path, I realized it wasn't what I wanted to do. 963 00:34:22,905 --> 00:34:23,115 Hmm. 964 00:34:23,715 --> 00:34:26,445 And then I spent like the next, I don't know how many years, 965 00:34:26,445 --> 00:34:27,975 not knowing what I wanted to do. 966 00:34:28,065 --> 00:34:28,305 Hmm. 967 00:34:28,514 --> 00:34:30,465 Uh, I like playing soccer. 968 00:34:31,545 --> 00:34:35,955 Uh, I liked hanging out with my friends and, uh, yeah. 969 00:34:35,955 --> 00:34:40,395 I just, I didn't realize what I wanted to do for a really long time. 970 00:34:40,575 --> 00:34:45,525 And so I went to school and near the end of it, I, I, I guess there was a 971 00:34:46,095 --> 00:34:52,665 moment of clarity when I got closer and closer to the path, uh, completing. 972 00:34:52,784 --> 00:34:53,565 Well, I'm gonna interject. 973 00:34:53,565 --> 00:34:53,835 Yep. 974 00:34:54,075 --> 00:34:55,605 Because knowing a little bit about you. 975 00:34:55,635 --> 00:34:55,875 Yep. 976 00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:57,285 I can butt over. 977 00:34:57,495 --> 00:34:57,825 Okay. 978 00:34:57,825 --> 00:34:58,185 Yeah, for sure. 979 00:35:00,045 --> 00:35:01,005 And hear about it after. 980 00:35:01,065 --> 00:35:01,185 Yeah. 981 00:35:01,395 --> 00:35:06,615 Um, so your father had raised you in such a way mm-hmm. 982 00:35:06,615 --> 00:35:09,255 That university education was really important. 983 00:35:09,285 --> 00:35:09,375 Yep. 984 00:35:09,735 --> 00:35:15,315 Uh, he was vice president of Farrick Force Engineering Research Industries of Canada 985 00:35:15,525 --> 00:35:16,435 Institute, but yeah, yeah. 986 00:35:16,485 --> 00:35:17,115 Institute, 987 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:18,315 no one knows what it is anywhere. 988 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,620 It doesn't matter. 989 00:35:19,995 --> 00:35:22,845 But, uh, you know, I had a lot of people working under him and he wasn't 990 00:35:22,905 --> 00:35:24,885 responsible for a lot of different things. 991 00:35:24,885 --> 00:35:28,395 And I, one of the things I remember that he would say is, you don't 992 00:35:28,395 --> 00:35:31,605 need to learn to type, because that's why you get a receptionist. 993 00:35:31,605 --> 00:35:31,935 Right. 994 00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:32,145 Yeah. 995 00:35:32,145 --> 00:35:32,685 Secretary. 996 00:35:32,715 --> 00:35:33,945 Sorry, secretary. 997 00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:34,060 Yes. 998 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,140 He said it quite a bit. 999 00:35:35,355 --> 00:35:35,805 Yes. 1000 00:35:35,835 --> 00:35:37,035 So you don't have to learn how to type. 1001 00:35:37,335 --> 00:35:38,895 So that was sort of the mindset. 1002 00:35:38,955 --> 00:35:39,135 Yep. 1003 00:35:39,255 --> 00:35:41,805 That you're gonna be an intellectual, you're gonna be in charge of 1004 00:35:41,805 --> 00:35:46,365 people, you get yourself a high paying job in a prestigious area. 1005 00:35:46,695 --> 00:35:46,845 Mm-hmm. 1006 00:35:47,085 --> 00:35:48,915 So I, I should imagine growing up through life, that was 1007 00:35:48,915 --> 00:35:50,565 always probably an expectation. 1008 00:35:50,655 --> 00:35:50,745 Yep. 1009 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,505 And I also remember. 1010 00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:58,290 You always seem to have well paying decent jobs. 1011 00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,140 Even if for a while there was that fert, right? 1012 00:36:02,555 --> 00:36:03,750 Well, a hundred percent. 1013 00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:04,080 Yeah. 1014 00:36:04,109 --> 00:36:08,640 No, like I don't believe I pulled myself up via own, my own bootstraps and provided 1015 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,870 all of my own opportunities like I was, I was a very lucky, I mean, as a teenager, 1016 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:16,200 I remember my older sister worked for. 1017 00:36:16,755 --> 00:36:20,265 Potters or Gilby or Mark Anthony Group, like I I 1018 00:36:21,674 --> 00:36:22,845 if you worked for Mark Anthony Group. 1019 00:36:22,850 --> 00:36:22,960 Mm-hmm. 1020 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,805 And you were in marketing. 1021 00:36:23,805 --> 00:36:23,895 Yep. 1022 00:36:24,045 --> 00:36:27,435 And so she kind of helped pave the way Yeah. 1023 00:36:27,464 --> 00:36:28,875 She was making good money there. 1024 00:36:28,875 --> 00:36:31,575 You're working in a marketing position, which you were 1025 00:36:31,575 --> 00:36:33,345 probably wholly unqualified for. 1026 00:36:33,674 --> 00:36:36,734 Uh, I mean, yes and no. 1027 00:36:36,734 --> 00:36:38,325 I, I don't think it's something that really 1028 00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:40,400 easy now. 1029 00:36:41,115 --> 00:36:41,475 Yeah. 1030 00:36:41,475 --> 00:36:43,515 But, um, but yeah, no, no. 1031 00:36:43,515 --> 00:36:45,585 I just was like muddling my way through. 1032 00:36:45,795 --> 00:36:49,815 And you started thinking that maybe this wasn't the direction you wanted to go. 1033 00:36:49,904 --> 00:36:50,295 Yeah. 1034 00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:54,315 And your family and your friends were all saying like, give your head a shake. 1035 00:36:54,315 --> 00:36:56,654 I mean, you're making good money at a young age. 1036 00:36:56,685 --> 00:36:56,805 Mm-hmm. 1037 00:36:57,045 --> 00:36:58,095 You're on a trajectory. 1038 00:36:59,055 --> 00:36:59,355 Okay. 1039 00:36:59,565 --> 00:37:00,165 Take it away. 1040 00:37:01,125 --> 00:37:01,395 Yeah. 1041 00:37:01,395 --> 00:37:02,205 So, okay. 1042 00:37:02,205 --> 00:37:05,924 It, uh, at that point, uh, everything was sort of lining up to go down a 1043 00:37:05,924 --> 00:37:08,935 certain path and the realization of. 1044 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,380 Where that would lead me 10 years later down the road was like, 1045 00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,230 oh shit, I don't wanna do that. 1046 00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:18,720 I don't wanna, I, I can see where this is going. 1047 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:19,350 I don't want that. 1048 00:37:19,350 --> 00:37:19,650 Mm-hmm. 1049 00:37:20,435 --> 00:37:22,230 And I knew I love food. 1050 00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:22,560 Um. 1051 00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:27,300 I know for a lot of people, like guys like Jamie Oliver are not 1052 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:30,990 super cool, but at the time I thought, I thought he was awesome. 1053 00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:34,890 I thought it was like a totally different side of, of what chefs 1054 00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:36,240 were and what I thought chefs were. 1055 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:36,360 And 1056 00:37:36,365 --> 00:37:37,075 he was really cool. 1057 00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:37,715 He was. 1058 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,030 And I still think he is. 1059 00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:39,420 And I, 1060 00:37:39,435 --> 00:37:39,875 I think he is. 1061 00:37:40,115 --> 00:37:41,475 I don't know what he is doing now, but Yeah. 1062 00:37:41,820 --> 00:37:42,090 Yeah. 1063 00:37:42,090 --> 00:37:43,380 I mean, people give him a hard time. 1064 00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:44,395 And people, I people, 1065 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,700 he's made more changes in the cooking world, like over in the uk 1066 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:52,200 there where he brought in real food into the school system and he's 1067 00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:56,310 influenced so many people to get their hands dirty and have a garden. 1068 00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:58,050 He had that cool trailer. 1069 00:37:58,050 --> 00:37:58,470 What was that? 1070 00:37:58,470 --> 00:38:02,395 The cock insider, the tongue in cheek, yeah. 1071 00:38:02,575 --> 00:38:04,980 Had a rooster and a cider beverage. 1072 00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:05,490 But, um, 1073 00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:09,210 people like to pull down people after they have success. 1074 00:38:09,210 --> 00:38:10,530 It makes 'em feel better about themselves. 1075 00:38:10,530 --> 00:38:13,500 I think that's where Jamie Oliver gets 1076 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:13,890 suffered. 1077 00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:14,490 Yeah, I do. 1078 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,660 If he suffers at all. 1079 00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:16,350 I mean, it depends. 1080 00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:18,810 If you wanna look around, I, I have a feeling he's just 1081 00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:19,740 looking forward and moving. 1082 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:20,430 Yeah. 1083 00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:22,830 But he, he, um, 1084 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,840 he was the influence on you a 1085 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,350 hundred percent. 1086 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:25,620 Yeah. 1087 00:38:25,650 --> 00:38:29,790 He, he made being a chef look cool and fun and the food he was making was like, 1088 00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:31,950 very different from what I was used to. 1089 00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:33,420 And it really got me into food. 1090 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,070 And I just was like, Hey, maybe I wanna be a chef. 1091 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:41,940 And so I remember like being maybe a week or two away from graduating 1092 00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:45,990 from university and, and thinking, oh my God, okay, I gotta finish this. 1093 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:49,830 I didn't want to, you were told me to shake my head and just get it done. 1094 00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:51,150 So I did. 1095 00:38:51,570 --> 00:38:51,900 Yeah. 1096 00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:56,610 The guy who barely did university, I'm like, you're so close to the finish line. 1097 00:38:56,610 --> 00:38:56,670 Yeah. 1098 00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:59,100 And I can't pay attention for two seconds Yeah. 1099 00:38:59,100 --> 00:38:59,790 To get through here. 1100 00:38:59,790 --> 00:39:00,720 Like, just do it. 1101 00:39:00,780 --> 00:39:01,050 Yeah. 1102 00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:04,290 So I finished it and then I started working in, in restaurants. 1103 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:04,590 Mm. 1104 00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:08,520 Um, and kind of didn't, haven't looked back. 1105 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:13,920 I mean, there's been some changes in left turns and Right turns 1106 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,725 and all the rest, but Yeah. 1107 00:39:14,725 --> 00:39:16,110 But how does it make you feel though? 1108 00:39:16,815 --> 00:39:19,095 Being like being involved with food 1109 00:39:19,154 --> 00:39:19,424 Yeah. 1110 00:39:19,424 --> 00:39:22,275 And taking that direction as opposed to working in an office. 1111 00:39:22,275 --> 00:39:22,484 And 1112 00:39:23,415 --> 00:39:23,924 Yeah. 1113 00:39:23,924 --> 00:39:30,674 I mean, I've realized something about myself is that if I am not pushing 1114 00:39:30,674 --> 00:39:35,625 myself, if I'm not doing what fuels my heart and makes me feel good doing 1115 00:39:35,625 --> 00:39:40,964 something that regardless of what it is, it has to be of value, um, I just 1116 00:39:40,964 --> 00:39:44,565 like, ugh, I can't, I can't handle it. 1117 00:39:44,565 --> 00:39:48,165 I need to, I don't care about money. 1118 00:39:48,165 --> 00:39:49,365 I don't care about making money. 1119 00:39:49,424 --> 00:39:53,895 I don't care about success, uh, from other people or recognition. 1120 00:39:54,345 --> 00:39:56,384 I need to do something that makes me feel good. 1121 00:39:56,625 --> 00:39:56,654 Mm. 1122 00:39:56,775 --> 00:39:57,525 And contribute. 1123 00:39:57,674 --> 00:39:59,475 Um, and for me, cooking was like. 1124 00:39:59,535 --> 00:40:00,884 It was my passion. 1125 00:40:00,884 --> 00:40:02,895 It's what I've, I've loved it forever. 1126 00:40:03,105 --> 00:40:06,555 And you still get to kind of wear a lab coat, you wear an apron, 1127 00:40:06,555 --> 00:40:07,694 you get to mix stuff together. 1128 00:40:07,694 --> 00:40:07,785 Mm-hmm. 1129 00:40:08,024 --> 00:40:11,055 So you're creating things just like a scientist, you know, I wanted 1130 00:40:11,055 --> 00:40:13,020 to be a scientist and I, well, 1131 00:40:13,024 --> 00:40:13,694 you kind of are. 1132 00:40:14,714 --> 00:40:15,404 There you go. 1133 00:40:15,975 --> 00:40:16,065 Yeah. 1134 00:40:16,665 --> 00:40:20,295 I really, so growing up what I wanted to be, I wanted to be a me, a magician. 1135 00:40:20,384 --> 00:40:21,375 Mm-hmm. 1136 00:40:21,375 --> 00:40:21,386 Yep. 1137 00:40:21,524 --> 00:40:22,785 Wanted to be a police officer. 1138 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:23,685 Mm-hmm. 1139 00:40:23,774 --> 00:40:25,694 And wanted to be a scientist. 1140 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:25,779 Yeah. 1141 00:40:25,875 --> 00:40:27,825 And some people are all three of those, right? 1142 00:40:28,484 --> 00:40:30,975 They work in the crime lab and they make things disappear. 1143 00:40:31,515 --> 00:40:33,435 Um, some people. 1144 00:40:33,524 --> 00:40:33,825 Mm-hmm. 1145 00:40:34,515 --> 00:40:35,984 Um, but. 1146 00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:41,880 Like I would, I would borrow from the crime lab, a lab coat, and my 1147 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,950 science projects, I had access to them. 1148 00:40:43,950 --> 00:40:46,830 So when everyone else is making their crystal gardens, I was able to actually 1149 00:40:46,830 --> 00:40:51,450 use proper chemicals to make, it's not, it's not sugar crystals that are growing. 1150 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:51,510 Yeah. 1151 00:40:51,690 --> 00:40:53,250 Or using liquid glass. 1152 00:40:53,250 --> 00:40:53,760 And the cool. 1153 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:55,140 Yeah. 1154 00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:57,900 And the chemistry for me, let's blow things up. 1155 00:40:57,930 --> 00:41:00,780 Like I thought, like, that's fantastic 'cause you made something 1156 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,310 and it did something right? 1157 00:41:02,370 --> 00:41:02,460 Mm-hmm. 1158 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:05,790 Most of the chemical things that you do, if it doesn't have some sort of 1159 00:41:05,790 --> 00:41:10,950 a, a reaction disappearing ink, I made it, I write it and it disappears. 1160 00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:15,120 Fetal thinking solution and like that, that was awesome to me. 1161 00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:15,600 Hmm. 1162 00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:18,930 Um, yeah, so I, I think a lot of kids want to do that. 1163 00:41:19,470 --> 00:41:23,430 I guess in some way I'm doing a few of the things that I, that I wanted to do there 1164 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:27,630 ended up applying with the police and then calling them one of the clients for the 1165 00:41:27,630 --> 00:41:30,900 company that we have here for Silver Core for a number of different police agencies. 1166 00:41:31,904 --> 00:41:36,435 And got to put my chemistry, uh, to use and for the court system 1167 00:41:36,435 --> 00:41:37,455 and doing some forensic stuff. 1168 00:41:37,455 --> 00:41:38,145 That was kind of neat. 1169 00:41:38,235 --> 00:41:38,445 Yeah. 1170 00:41:38,985 --> 00:41:45,435 I think, I think you and I both probably did things that people naturally 1171 00:41:45,435 --> 00:41:46,995 want to do when they get older. 1172 00:41:47,055 --> 00:41:47,445 Mm. 1173 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:47,715 Right? 1174 00:41:47,715 --> 00:41:55,245 Like we just, there's so many jobs now that are so Gates natural, human 1175 00:41:55,424 --> 00:42:00,735 desire and fulfillment that like, I know, like, who grows up and thinks, 1176 00:42:00,765 --> 00:42:04,725 oh, I can't wait to work in middle management, or I can't wait to work in hr. 1177 00:42:04,725 --> 00:42:08,505 Like I just, I, I don't know, maybe it fuels some people, but 1178 00:42:08,865 --> 00:42:09,105 Yeah. 1179 00:42:09,285 --> 00:42:11,145 Um, I dunno. 1180 00:42:11,384 --> 00:42:12,674 What's our next, uh, hot sauce? 1181 00:42:12,945 --> 00:42:13,215 Yeah. 1182 00:42:13,215 --> 00:42:13,875 Next hot sauce. 1183 00:42:13,875 --> 00:42:15,525 We are on six. 1184 00:42:15,525 --> 00:42:16,665 So let's see here. 1185 00:42:18,465 --> 00:42:20,174 I'm gonna slide these back a little bit. 1186 00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:20,865 Alright. 1187 00:42:20,865 --> 00:42:21,795 You know I can get six. 1188 00:42:21,825 --> 00:42:22,005 Okay. 1189 00:42:22,005 --> 00:42:22,845 Probably closer to me. 1190 00:42:25,154 --> 00:42:28,154 Micro saucey, Pico peppers. 1191 00:42:28,154 --> 00:42:28,935 Hot sauce. 1192 00:42:28,995 --> 00:42:30,795 Volcano spelled with a K. 1193 00:42:31,155 --> 00:42:32,355 Roasted habanero. 1194 00:42:32,865 --> 00:42:34,005 So it's number six here. 1195 00:42:34,005 --> 00:42:34,635 Nutritional. 1196 00:42:34,635 --> 00:42:36,135 It's got zero calories, so that's good. 1197 00:42:36,135 --> 00:42:36,945 We can load it on. 1198 00:42:37,065 --> 00:42:37,185 Wow. 1199 00:42:37,330 --> 00:42:37,780 Yeah, yeah, 1200 00:42:37,810 --> 00:42:38,110 yeah, yeah. 1201 00:42:38,110 --> 00:42:38,355 Yep. 1202 00:42:38,775 --> 00:42:39,375 Heat level. 1203 00:42:40,005 --> 00:42:41,895 I don't, they don't keep a consistent heat level. 1204 00:42:41,895 --> 00:42:42,020 No, they 1205 00:42:42,225 --> 00:42:42,315 don't. 1206 00:42:42,315 --> 00:42:43,845 This one's got 1, 2, 3, 4. 1207 00:42:43,845 --> 00:42:45,645 It's got five flames. 1208 00:42:46,515 --> 00:42:46,785 Oh, okay. 1209 00:42:47,115 --> 00:42:47,655 That's right. 1210 00:42:47,655 --> 00:42:48,015 So it's 1211 00:42:48,015 --> 00:42:50,835 five vomiting volcanoes. 1212 00:42:50,930 --> 00:42:51,860 Give it a good shake. 1213 00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:53,085 Give it a good shake. 1214 00:42:53,085 --> 00:42:54,105 Here we go. 1215 00:42:54,915 --> 00:42:55,065 Yeah. 1216 00:42:55,065 --> 00:42:59,295 Speaking of volcanoes, is the, the one on the big island still going off? 1217 00:43:00,165 --> 00:43:00,915 I think it is. 1218 00:43:00,975 --> 00:43:02,385 I'd love to go over there and check that out. 1219 00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:02,790 Yeah, we should. 1220 00:43:03,015 --> 00:43:07,275 Yeah, we're over at, uh, so the breaded group invited us over to 1221 00:43:07,305 --> 00:43:11,235 their kickoff of their 500 year anniversary, which is pretty cool. 1222 00:43:11,865 --> 00:43:14,385 So the Breta group, they own a ton of different companies. 1223 00:43:14,655 --> 00:43:18,870 They own Sako tka, they own Norma Ammunition, of course, Breta and 1224 00:43:18,875 --> 00:43:21,885 Benelli and Frankie, and a whole bunch of different companies. 1225 00:43:22,575 --> 00:43:25,125 And they rented a range. 1226 00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:30,629 One day prior to the kickoff of the media range, day at Shot Show in Vegas, 1227 00:43:30,629 --> 00:43:32,160 a shooting hunting, outdoor trade show. 1228 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,149 So it was pretty cool. 1229 00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:35,670 They're feeding us lobster, well, lobster rolls. 1230 00:43:35,850 --> 00:43:36,149 Right. 1231 00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:37,049 That was pretty neat. 1232 00:43:37,049 --> 00:43:37,350 Right. 1233 00:43:37,620 --> 00:43:43,859 They had all the different, um, brands that they carry out on the range and 1234 00:43:44,670 --> 00:43:47,460 all you can eat, all you can shoot, check out the different things. 1235 00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:52,830 Anyways, one of the, uh, one of their pro shooters was from the big island. 1236 00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:53,549 Mm-hmm. 1237 00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:57,240 And she was showing us pictures of this volcano going off and her brother's 1238 00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:58,440 been tracking the whole thing. 1239 00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,609 And uh, yeah. 1240 00:43:59,609 --> 00:44:01,589 So I think that got a fire in us. 1241 00:44:01,589 --> 00:44:04,020 I'd love to, I'd love to go over there to the big island. 1242 00:44:04,049 --> 00:44:04,140 Mm-hmm. 1243 00:44:04,379 --> 00:44:07,920 And take Griff up on his offer, which is one of the neat things with the podcast 1244 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,540 is he meets some really cool people. 1245 00:44:09,899 --> 00:44:13,379 And the guy who owns combat flip flops is guy by the name of Griff 1246 00:44:13,379 --> 00:44:15,569 and he's like, you gotta come over. 1247 00:44:15,810 --> 00:44:19,680 My buddy's got his brand new guiding company that he's taken up. 1248 00:44:20,370 --> 00:44:23,759 And, uh, maybe do a podcast, do some hunting and check out the island. 1249 00:44:23,759 --> 00:44:26,340 So maybe, I don't know, maybe we should look at putting all that together. 1250 00:44:26,670 --> 00:44:26,970 Yeah. 1251 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:27,990 How did that taste? 1252 00:44:28,890 --> 00:44:29,520 It wasn't that bad. 1253 00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:31,800 I mean, it's now building. 1254 00:44:32,610 --> 00:44:33,690 Oh, this is Okay. 1255 00:44:33,690 --> 00:44:34,380 I put a lot on, 1256 00:44:34,445 --> 00:44:34,805 I did too. 1257 00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:36,930 I know This is gonna, I creep up. 1258 00:44:36,955 --> 00:44:37,245 Yeah. 1259 00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:41,490 It has a, a cat vomiting fire. 1260 00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:47,165 Just do you, I dunno if you could like put it in the clear. 1261 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:49,020 Oh, it 1262 00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:50,340 looks, I don't think people will see that. 1263 00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:51,360 Yeah. 1264 00:44:51,570 --> 00:44:53,070 It looks like a, a Waldo 1265 00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:54,060 Mm. 1266 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,060 The cat that you've found in your couch after like a week. 1267 00:44:57,060 --> 00:44:57,120 Yeah. 1268 00:44:57,330 --> 00:44:58,560 What this lump in my couch 1269 00:44:59,910 --> 00:45:00,780 CL cider coach. 1270 00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:01,620 We have to cut it out 1271 00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:04,530 as you're cutting it out. 1272 00:45:05,070 --> 00:45:05,400 You just left. 1273 00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:07,440 Oh my god. 1274 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,310 My mom was so mad. 1275 00:45:09,045 --> 00:45:09,965 I forgot about that. 1276 00:45:09,965 --> 00:45:10,325 Mm-hmm. 1277 00:45:10,535 --> 00:45:11,205 Sorry, mom. 1278 00:45:13,945 --> 00:45:14,165 Ah, 1279 00:45:14,465 --> 00:45:14,685 mad. 1280 00:45:14,685 --> 00:45:16,259 Okay, so here's my inflammatory. 1281 00:45:16,530 --> 00:45:17,520 Okay, let's hear it. 1282 00:45:17,550 --> 00:45:20,160 Cat vomiting, fire question for you. 1283 00:45:20,190 --> 00:45:20,340 Yep. 1284 00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:22,165 Actually, it's where a statement. 1285 00:45:22,165 --> 00:45:22,525 Mm-hmm. 1286 00:45:23,070 --> 00:45:24,540 A woman's place is in the kitchen. 1287 00:45:24,990 --> 00:45:25,320 Yep. 1288 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,110 Take it away. 1289 00:45:28,259 --> 00:45:28,770 You wanna know? 1290 00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:30,630 Proceed. 1291 00:45:31,170 --> 00:45:33,660 Um, a woman's place is in the kitchen. 1292 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:45,240 Um, uh, so for me, um, my place is in the kitchen and for me, um. 1293 00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:51,420 It took me a while to like be okay with saying that and being proud to say that. 1294 00:45:51,420 --> 00:45:58,230 And like, um, like when we discussed my, my family and how I was brought up and 1295 00:45:59,009 --> 00:46:02,549 you know, you go to school and why would you go to school for almost eight years? 1296 00:46:03,210 --> 00:46:03,720 Undergrad? 1297 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,855 Don't get, um, 1298 00:46:05,995 --> 00:46:06,654 you're a doctor. 1299 00:46:07,205 --> 00:46:07,495 Nope. 1300 00:46:09,455 --> 00:46:11,520 A bachelor's in sociology, everyone. 1301 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:11,970 Excellent. 1302 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,950 Um, but why do you go to school just to like work in a kitchen or heaven 1303 00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:22,049 forbid, like why would you put your career on hold to be a stay-at-home mom? 1304 00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:22,560 Mm. 1305 00:46:22,770 --> 00:46:24,840 And really like be in the kitchen. 1306 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,830 Um, but I knew deep in my heart that that was where I wanted to be. 1307 00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:36,360 It wasn't that it was, there was no Travis telling me this is our 1308 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,420 relationship and this is where you have to be because I do these things. 1309 00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:39,430 Mm-hmm. 1310 00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:39,840 But like, 1311 00:46:40,830 --> 00:46:40,980 yeah. 1312 00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:41,880 Quite the contrary. 1313 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,180 Yeah. 1314 00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:42,810 Well, yeah. 1315 00:46:42,810 --> 00:46:44,279 I mean, if anyone knows us, like. 1316 00:46:44,835 --> 00:46:46,215 We don't boss each other around. 1317 00:46:46,215 --> 00:46:52,215 But, um, the fulfill, like people asking me, oh, don't you miss a restaurant? 1318 00:46:52,995 --> 00:46:55,155 Yes, I do miss cooking in a restaurant. 1319 00:46:55,155 --> 00:47:00,255 I miss, uh, that rush of working, working the line. 1320 00:47:00,795 --> 00:47:04,220 Uh, I miss having someone washing the dishes at the end of the day. 1321 00:47:06,195 --> 00:47:06,235 I dunno. 1322 00:47:06,235 --> 00:47:06,795 This is why we had kids. 1323 00:47:06,795 --> 00:47:10,485 Yes, this is why, why we have kids, but like I do miss working in kitchens. 1324 00:47:10,485 --> 00:47:19,485 Mm. Uh, but with that, having my family eat my food and tell me they love it means 1325 00:47:19,755 --> 00:47:22,215 no one, no customer has ever said that. 1326 00:47:22,365 --> 00:47:23,805 And it meant more than when you guys hit. 1327 00:47:23,955 --> 00:47:24,195 Hmm. 1328 00:47:24,765 --> 00:47:29,955 Um, and I've gotten to the point now where like, I don't know why 1329 00:47:29,955 --> 00:47:33,765 it bothered me so much to, or why I was so scared to make that change. 1330 00:47:33,765 --> 00:47:38,715 Why it felt initially like I was giving up and then I had to kind of come to 1331 00:47:38,745 --> 00:47:42,175 grips with it and, uh, be okay with. 1332 00:47:43,065 --> 00:47:46,065 Enjoying it, being okay with spending time with my kids, being okay. 1333 00:47:46,185 --> 00:47:48,795 Cooking at home and, and being in that place. 1334 00:47:48,915 --> 00:47:49,725 You know what I like? 1335 00:47:49,785 --> 00:47:52,455 So we look around the office here or in the studio, and we've got 1336 00:47:52,455 --> 00:47:55,904 a couple beautiful murals that have been pasted by Casey Bram. 1337 00:47:55,964 --> 00:47:56,055 Mm-hmm. 1338 00:47:56,295 --> 00:47:57,765 Casey's been on the podcast. 1339 00:47:58,305 --> 00:48:01,035 We had a great hunt with him last year when out Bear hunting. 1340 00:48:01,365 --> 00:48:01,485 Yep. 1341 00:48:01,515 --> 00:48:05,265 He's a, uh, heck of a character and he's an artist, and that's 1342 00:48:05,265 --> 00:48:08,565 what he does for a living. 1343 00:48:08,895 --> 00:48:12,225 And people will say, hold on, you're an artist for a living. 1344 00:48:12,225 --> 00:48:15,255 And he says, well, am I making a living or am I making a life? 1345 00:48:15,255 --> 00:48:16,634 Like, what, what am I doing? 1346 00:48:17,265 --> 00:48:19,904 Because I do the art, because I enjoy the art. 1347 00:48:20,415 --> 00:48:25,005 The art brings money, but I, I also garden and that brings food in for the family. 1348 00:48:25,035 --> 00:48:27,045 I also hunt, that brings food in for the family. 1349 00:48:27,045 --> 00:48:31,845 I create and I make my own structures and I'm building my own studio, and I 1350 00:48:31,845 --> 00:48:34,245 built my own greenhouse in the back. 1351 00:48:34,305 --> 00:48:37,004 I mean, there's things that money can't buy. 1352 00:48:37,004 --> 00:48:37,065 Hmm. 1353 00:48:37,424 --> 00:48:39,464 It's a different approach from people saying, well, you get a 1354 00:48:39,585 --> 00:48:42,734 university education, you make a lot of money, and you get other people, 1355 00:48:42,734 --> 00:48:43,935 you pay them and they make it. 1356 00:48:44,865 --> 00:48:49,004 And his approach the way, and you might be able to articulate it better, but 1357 00:48:49,004 --> 00:48:57,915 maybe, maybe it's not so much looking at it like, what am I gonna do to make money? 1358 00:48:58,214 --> 00:48:59,805 What am I gonna do to make my life? 1359 00:48:59,865 --> 00:49:00,075 Yeah. 1360 00:49:00,315 --> 00:49:00,495 Yeah. 1361 00:49:00,615 --> 00:49:01,154 A hundred percent. 1362 00:49:01,245 --> 00:49:10,694 I mean, once, once we had our daughter, I knew immediately, like from the most, like 1363 00:49:11,085 --> 00:49:17,535 down to each and every cell in my body that I didn't have this child, so that, so 1364 00:49:17,535 --> 00:49:19,125 that I could go back and work in a kitchen 1365 00:49:19,129 --> 00:49:19,859 and somebody else raised 1366 00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:21,044 ' em and someone else raised my kid. 1367 00:49:21,225 --> 00:49:21,464 Right. 1368 00:49:21,674 --> 00:49:25,544 Uh, I, I knew that like, I just, it was. 1369 00:49:25,755 --> 00:49:28,395 I don't know, something, a switch went off 1370 00:49:28,455 --> 00:49:28,695 Mm. 1371 00:49:28,725 --> 00:49:32,115 From someone that didn't, never wanted to have kids, never wanted, 1372 00:49:32,115 --> 00:49:34,785 like, I just figured I'd travel all over the place and work in kitchens. 1373 00:49:34,785 --> 00:49:38,535 And, um, so once I did, I was like, oh my God. 1374 00:49:39,405 --> 00:49:40,035 Changed my life. 1375 00:49:40,575 --> 00:49:43,575 I think that's gonna be one of the things, and I, I don't think this was a part 1376 00:49:43,575 --> 00:49:46,755 of any reason why you're doing the Wild Kitchen podcast, but I think that's gonna 1377 00:49:46,755 --> 00:49:50,955 be one of the things that people can take away from it, is what happens if we 1378 00:49:50,955 --> 00:49:54,285 stop holding onto society's expectations. 1379 00:49:54,375 --> 00:49:54,465 Mm-hmm. 1380 00:49:55,035 --> 00:49:59,145 We doff them and we move in a direction that brings us 1381 00:49:59,145 --> 00:50:00,555 joy, that brings us passion. 1382 00:50:00,555 --> 00:50:01,785 And what could that look like? 1383 00:50:01,815 --> 00:50:01,875 Yeah. 1384 00:50:02,115 --> 00:50:05,085 Because so many people have come up and they said to you and to me, 1385 00:50:05,085 --> 00:50:06,705 like, I could never do what you do. 1386 00:50:06,705 --> 00:50:11,595 I'm not brave enough to, uh, go all in on whatever it might be, but you know what? 1387 00:50:11,595 --> 00:50:13,065 The universe unfolds as it should. 1388 00:50:13,215 --> 00:50:13,335 Mm-hmm. 1389 00:50:13,575 --> 00:50:16,125 Things have a funny way of figuring themselves out. 1390 00:50:16,215 --> 00:50:16,395 Yep. 1391 00:50:16,665 --> 00:50:17,715 It's like people who say. 1392 00:50:18,645 --> 00:50:20,955 Well, I gotta gotta wait for things to be right to get married. 1393 00:50:21,015 --> 00:50:23,415 Well now we gotta wait for things to be right, to have kids. 1394 00:50:23,444 --> 00:50:24,705 It's like that Idiocracy one. 1395 00:50:24,705 --> 00:50:26,355 Well, we gotta wait for everything. 1396 00:50:26,444 --> 00:50:27,194 Everything's perfect. 1397 00:50:27,615 --> 00:50:29,024 There's never a perfect time. 1398 00:50:29,024 --> 00:50:29,085 No. 1399 00:50:29,625 --> 00:50:31,095 You just gotta jump in and do it. 1400 00:50:31,095 --> 00:50:35,745 And that path that you took, I think is rather inspiring for other people and 1401 00:50:35,745 --> 00:50:41,174 for women who are like, I'm being told left and right that I gotta go out to 1402 00:50:41,174 --> 00:50:44,565 the office and I gotta be, uh, boss lady. 1403 00:50:44,565 --> 00:50:49,484 And I've gotta, but I, I really want kids or I, I really like, 1404 00:50:49,605 --> 00:50:50,865 I really enjoy gardening. 1405 00:50:50,865 --> 00:50:53,265 I mean, I like being in the kitchen. 1406 00:50:53,685 --> 00:50:53,835 Yep. 1407 00:50:54,404 --> 00:50:58,875 I mean, I think that's, I think that's one of the areas that's gonna 1408 00:50:58,875 --> 00:51:00,674 be really powerful for your podcast. 1409 00:51:01,095 --> 00:51:01,335 Yeah. 1410 00:51:01,335 --> 00:51:04,935 And I think it, you know, you talk about ppp, people being more self-sufficient 1411 00:51:04,935 --> 00:51:12,045 and all the rest, and, uh, I think I just wanna learn stuff that people. 1412 00:51:12,990 --> 00:51:15,570 A hundred years ago knew how to do, like everybody knew how to do. 1413 00:51:15,570 --> 00:51:17,610 I don't think that's too big of a jump. 1414 00:51:17,850 --> 00:51:22,110 And, but for, for a lot of people, it, it, it is like, people like, 1415 00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:25,380 oh my God, when are you gonna do a class on picking mushrooms? 1416 00:51:25,380 --> 00:51:26,670 Or when are you gonna do a class on this? 1417 00:51:26,670 --> 00:51:32,460 It's like, and I don't, I mean this with the most respect and I, I love the fact 1418 00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:36,060 that people are passionate and wanna learn things, but what I wanna get into 1419 00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:38,220 people's head is you don't need a class. 1420 00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:38,640 Mm-hmm. 1421 00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:40,920 Like, just put in the effort. 1422 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,980 Like, get out there, go for a walk out in the woods and look at mushrooms. 1423 00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:44,100 Mm-hmm. 1424 00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:45,300 Don't pick 'em, don't eat them. 1425 00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:46,470 Don't do anything like that. 1426 00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:49,860 But like, just be curious about your, the world around you. 1427 00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:52,680 Be open to learning new things every single day. 1428 00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:53,670 Try to learn something new. 1429 00:51:54,450 --> 00:51:59,250 I think people are so used to just that scroll, scroll, scroll next, dopamine hit. 1430 00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:00,570 They're like, oh yeah, yeah. 1431 00:52:00,570 --> 00:52:01,080 That sounds neat. 1432 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,490 I want to, I wanna learn about mushrooms. 1433 00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:04,050 You teach me, I'll know one mushroom. 1434 00:52:04,050 --> 00:52:05,130 I can go out and I can grab it. 1435 00:52:06,045 --> 00:52:07,245 And then they're onto the next thing. 1436 00:52:07,335 --> 00:52:07,425 Mm-hmm. 1437 00:52:07,725 --> 00:52:09,825 But they're missing the point of the whole thing. 1438 00:52:09,825 --> 00:52:11,505 It's like Alan Watts says, right. 1439 00:52:11,505 --> 00:52:15,465 You rush to get top your class in school, and then you go to university, 1440 00:52:15,465 --> 00:52:18,765 then you get your good job, and then you retire and then you're, and you 1441 00:52:18,765 --> 00:52:21,435 look back and you say, for what? 1442 00:52:21,675 --> 00:52:21,765 Yep. 1443 00:52:21,765 --> 00:52:22,665 What was it all about? 1444 00:52:22,665 --> 00:52:23,775 And you miss a whole point. 1445 00:52:24,015 --> 00:52:26,775 The whole thing was a musical and you're supposed to be dancing and 1446 00:52:26,775 --> 00:52:28,365 enjoying it and going through it. 1447 00:52:28,365 --> 00:52:32,325 So mushroom picking, that was the eye-opener in your 1448 00:52:32,325 --> 00:52:33,975 Hank Shaw episode for me. 1449 00:52:33,980 --> 00:52:34,050 Mm-hmm. 1450 00:52:34,515 --> 00:52:38,175 So I thought drippy hippies go out and then they pick up mushrooms 1451 00:52:38,685 --> 00:52:41,925 and a bunch of people over there fighting over their own mushroom turf. 1452 00:52:41,925 --> 00:52:44,265 And I'm like, I got, I, I want nothing to do with this. 1453 00:52:44,265 --> 00:52:44,275 Yeah. 1454 00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:46,710 And we went out looking for Portini. 1455 00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:50,460 And I'm like, okay, look how connected I am to the land 1456 00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:52,110 right now and to the nature. 1457 00:52:52,110 --> 00:52:56,070 And I'm, I can see why mushroom pickers get lost 'cause they get so into looking 1458 00:52:56,070 --> 00:52:59,760 at the ground in certain features that they forget to do a reckoning. 1459 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,460 And it was a fun day hanging out with Hank and me. 1460 00:53:02,550 --> 00:53:03,390 Yeah, Hank's a fun dude. 1461 00:53:03,420 --> 00:53:04,860 He is a quirky dude, but he's fun 1462 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,050 in like a totally different environment. 1463 00:53:07,050 --> 00:53:11,820 Like it was, it was memorable and enjoyable and like we were 1464 00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:13,770 just in the moment having fun. 1465 00:53:14,535 --> 00:53:14,895 Yeah. 1466 00:53:15,404 --> 00:53:16,334 Should we try the next wing? 1467 00:53:16,424 --> 00:53:17,174 Yeah, let's, 1468 00:53:17,895 --> 00:53:18,584 what do we got? 1469 00:53:19,125 --> 00:53:20,355 Um, that, not that one. 1470 00:53:20,475 --> 00:53:20,685 Yeah. 1471 00:53:21,975 --> 00:53:23,685 Hot house hot sauce. 1472 00:53:23,834 --> 00:53:26,245 This one has got a completely different scale from it. 1473 00:53:26,444 --> 00:53:31,365 It says, uh, a little hot medium, pretty hot and crazy hot. 1474 00:53:31,365 --> 00:53:34,259 And it's halfway between pretty hot and crazy hot. 1475 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,259 Oh, crazy. 1476 00:53:35,984 --> 00:53:40,305 It's, um, blazingly delightful sauce features the best the garden has to offer. 1477 00:53:40,305 --> 00:53:41,055 Oh, you're gonna like this. 1478 00:53:41,145 --> 00:53:44,955 It's got cilantro and dill balanced perfectly with tomatoes 1479 00:53:46,455 --> 00:53:48,314 and our unique five pepper blend. 1480 00:53:49,004 --> 00:53:49,605 Okay, let's try it. 1481 00:53:50,265 --> 00:53:50,384 Oh, nice. 1482 00:53:50,475 --> 00:53:52,274 I do like it when they put dill in hot sauce. 1483 00:53:53,595 --> 00:53:55,544 I don't know if you'd know this, but I'm kind of a big di 1484 00:53:55,605 --> 00:53:56,205 Are you really? 1485 00:53:56,444 --> 00:53:56,924 Oh, me too. 1486 00:53:56,990 --> 00:53:57,580 There you go. 1487 00:53:57,799 --> 00:53:58,220 Thanks. 1488 00:54:04,359 --> 00:54:05,029 There you go. 1489 00:54:05,174 --> 00:54:06,044 Don't be stingy. 1490 00:54:06,105 --> 00:54:07,964 Well, that's, it's about as much as I put on. 1491 00:54:10,575 --> 00:54:13,845 So you had, and I'm gonna talk for a little bit so you can eat. 1492 00:54:13,935 --> 00:54:14,295 Yeah. 1493 00:54:14,805 --> 00:54:16,845 You had Doina Allen on the podcast. 1494 00:54:17,205 --> 00:54:17,295 Mm-hmm. 1495 00:54:17,595 --> 00:54:22,155 And it was interesting 'cause so she's got this cookbook and 1496 00:54:22,155 --> 00:54:23,415 I'm looking at your face, right. 1497 00:54:23,985 --> 00:54:26,535 I, I almost just choked on the chicken. 1498 00:54:26,865 --> 00:54:28,035 That sound terrible. 1499 00:54:29,355 --> 00:54:29,775 Proceed 1500 00:54:29,805 --> 00:54:30,525 edit that out. 1501 00:54:30,580 --> 00:54:32,445 But it wasn't a hot sauce choking. 1502 00:54:32,445 --> 00:54:32,835 It was. 1503 00:54:33,165 --> 00:54:33,555 Gotcha. 1504 00:54:33,645 --> 00:54:33,795 Yeah. 1505 00:54:34,245 --> 00:54:38,865 So you were doing one of her recipes, I don't know, 20 years ago. 1506 00:54:39,675 --> 00:54:42,885 And you're going through and you're like, it doesn't make sense. 1507 00:54:42,885 --> 00:54:45,435 One of these measurements just doesn't make sense. 1508 00:54:45,915 --> 00:54:50,925 And I said, well call her up and find out like what it, maybe it's a typo 1509 00:54:51,195 --> 00:54:52,365 and like, oh, you can't call her. 1510 00:54:52,365 --> 00:54:54,315 This is doina l and this is and on. 1511 00:54:54,315 --> 00:54:54,945 And you go. 1512 00:54:54,945 --> 00:55:00,645 And so I called Ireland and spoke with, I think it was Doina. 1513 00:55:00,705 --> 00:55:03,825 You swear it was probably somebody working in her, in her kitchen there, 1514 00:55:03,825 --> 00:55:05,985 but a woman with a heavy Irish accent. 1515 00:55:06,135 --> 00:55:07,635 After speaking with her, it was probably her, actually 1516 00:55:07,695 --> 00:55:08,475 I think it was her. 1517 00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:12,720 And, um, and she gives me the information, I give it to you. 1518 00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,850 And you said, are you kidding me? 1519 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,750 You called her up. 1520 00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:19,170 Like I, I, you couldn't believe that I actually did that. 1521 00:55:19,170 --> 00:55:19,470 Yep. 1522 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,940 And that's one thing that I've always tended to do, like in the easy way 1523 00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:25,830 for me to be able to solve a problem. 1524 00:55:25,860 --> 00:55:30,750 Like let's say my book report in grade 11 on Shoeless job by WP Kinsella. 1525 00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:31,410 How simply 1526 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,510 just the seven is caught. 1527 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,640 I call up the author and the author helped me complete my entire book report. 1528 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,600 Now you're doing that and you're calling these people up. 1529 00:55:42,810 --> 00:55:42,870 Yeah. 1530 00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:45,540 And you're talking with these people who you thought before, 1531 00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:46,770 like, are you kidding me? 1532 00:55:46,770 --> 00:55:49,020 I can't, you can't call this person up. 1533 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,310 What's that like? 1534 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,110 And I get to eat my piece. 1535 00:55:52,110 --> 00:55:58,385 Uh, you know, I think your strategy of eating or watching me eat mm-hmm. 1536 00:55:58,465 --> 00:55:59,580 While you talk, it was good. 1537 00:55:59,580 --> 00:56:01,530 'cause then I have to talk after eating it. 1538 00:56:01,530 --> 00:56:03,000 Mm-hmm. 1539 00:56:03,001 --> 00:56:04,140 And then you have a bit of a break. 1540 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,290 Mm-hmm. 1541 00:56:05,370 --> 00:56:05,880 It was hotter. 1542 00:56:06,540 --> 00:56:06,960 Um, I 1543 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:07,425 don't feel anything. 1544 00:56:09,060 --> 00:56:10,800 You know what it was. 1545 00:56:13,950 --> 00:56:14,220 I think 1546 00:56:14,225 --> 00:56:14,545 here it comes. 1547 00:56:15,295 --> 00:56:15,585 Yeah. 1548 00:56:15,930 --> 00:56:21,570 I think luckily I admire Doina Allen so much that the excitement of talking 1549 00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:28,800 to her, like totally overshadowed any sort of intimidation I would've felt in 1550 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,600 talking to someone that I admire so much. 1551 00:56:30,660 --> 00:56:30,900 Hmm. 1552 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,070 So my excitement just like kicked me into overdrive. 1553 00:56:35,370 --> 00:56:40,500 Plus like, sometimes they just like miss the boat on, uh, 1554 00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:42,870 being self-aware on things. 1555 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:44,310 Tell me more. 1556 00:56:44,335 --> 00:56:49,260 Like I should be nervous or intimidated and I just barrel 1557 00:56:49,260 --> 00:56:52,140 through with like, I don't know. 1558 00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:53,160 I don't know. 1559 00:56:53,220 --> 00:56:55,860 I don't know why I do it, but, uh, I think. 1560 00:56:56,730 --> 00:57:02,850 Like one, one of my happiest uh, realization since launching the podcast 1561 00:57:02,850 --> 00:57:07,590 has been how many people are like, holy shit, Doina Allen's awesome. 1562 00:57:07,620 --> 00:57:09,480 How have I never heard of her before this? 1563 00:57:09,570 --> 00:57:10,830 She's like, she's so amazing. 1564 00:57:10,830 --> 00:57:12,930 She's such a, like, she's done so many things. 1565 00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:16,500 I don't understand how I haven't, um, I don't have any of her books 1566 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:17,460 or I haven't heard of her before. 1567 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:17,940 Hmm. 1568 00:57:18,015 --> 00:57:23,070 Um, so, um, being able within my very small circle to 1569 00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:25,830 like, introduce her to them 1570 00:57:25,950 --> 00:57:26,160 Hmm. 1571 00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:28,920 Um, has been like just awesome. 1572 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,470 This takes a moment to kick up, doesn't it? 1573 00:57:31,470 --> 00:57:31,620 Yeah. 1574 00:57:31,650 --> 00:57:33,150 Your eyes doing funny things. 1575 00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:34,815 I see. 1576 00:57:34,995 --> 00:57:36,750 So like lizard eye thing going on. 1577 00:57:36,750 --> 00:57:37,200 Little bit. 1578 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:37,440 It's like, 1579 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,200 um, you have some questions on your paper there too, don't ya? 1580 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:43,230 Uh, 1581 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:44,190 yeah. 1582 00:57:44,190 --> 00:57:45,420 But yours have been better. 1583 00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:46,415 Uh, yeah. 1584 00:57:46,415 --> 00:57:47,135 Little terrible 1585 00:57:47,135 --> 00:57:47,495 conspiracy. 1586 00:57:47,715 --> 00:57:48,180 Oh yeah, yeah. 1587 00:57:48,210 --> 00:57:48,480 Okay. 1588 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,070 It was totally related. 1589 00:57:50,370 --> 00:57:52,320 Um, so. 1590 00:57:53,655 --> 00:57:58,485 I know you as a bit of a conspiracy theorist buff, like you, like, 1591 00:57:58,490 --> 00:57:59,025 hold on, hold on. 1592 00:58:01,245 --> 00:58:02,055 Yeah, there you go. 1593 00:58:02,295 --> 00:58:04,575 Ah, here, got my tinfoil hat here. 1594 00:58:06,315 --> 00:58:06,915 Yes. 1595 00:58:06,975 --> 00:58:07,605 Go on. 1596 00:58:07,665 --> 00:58:07,965 Yeah. 1597 00:58:08,025 --> 00:58:09,015 Do I need to wear this? 1598 00:58:09,735 --> 00:58:12,435 I've never had the opportunity to wear, but let's see where we go here. 1599 00:58:12,465 --> 00:58:12,735 Yeah, 1600 00:58:12,884 --> 00:58:13,215 go on. 1601 00:58:13,335 --> 00:58:13,605 Okay. 1602 00:58:13,605 --> 00:58:19,725 So, um, for those, for those out there that don't, don't know that you're a 1603 00:58:19,725 --> 00:58:23,445 conspiracy buff or just like an up, maybe just update us, like, where is 1604 00:58:23,445 --> 00:58:27,285 Travis at these days on his conspiracy that like has turned out in your 1605 00:58:27,285 --> 00:58:29,265 mind anyway to not be a conspiracy? 1606 00:58:29,595 --> 00:58:33,134 Well, there's tons of, but I mean, I don't know. 1607 00:58:33,134 --> 00:58:35,055 I wouldn't call myself a conspiracy theorist. 1608 00:58:35,055 --> 00:58:37,275 I just ask questions and I look at patterns, right? 1609 00:58:37,905 --> 00:58:41,715 And sometimes the best predictor of future performance is past performance. 1610 00:58:41,985 --> 00:58:46,185 So when people are looking at, oh, it's a complete conspiracy that. 1611 00:58:47,325 --> 00:58:50,685 Some virus was made in a lab. 1612 00:58:51,195 --> 00:58:51,825 Excuse me. 1613 00:58:52,065 --> 00:58:53,445 Yeah, it's got the, uh, hot sauce. 1614 00:58:53,445 --> 00:58:56,205 It's the, uh, yeah, the phem going in the back of your throat. 1615 00:58:56,205 --> 00:58:56,620 That's gross. 1616 00:58:58,725 --> 00:59:01,305 Well, that didn't turn out to be a conspiracy after all. 1617 00:59:01,815 --> 00:59:08,565 Um, but if you want to lean into the conspiracy side, I would say the matrix. 1618 00:59:09,525 --> 00:59:09,765 Oh, okay. 1619 00:59:09,795 --> 00:59:10,755 That that'd be one of them. 1620 00:59:11,355 --> 00:59:11,565 Yeah. 1621 00:59:11,835 --> 00:59:12,765 Would all plugged in somewhere. 1622 00:59:13,695 --> 00:59:16,695 I don't know so much if it were all plugged in somewhere. 1623 00:59:16,965 --> 00:59:18,015 Oh, what are you doing? 1624 00:59:18,105 --> 00:59:18,975 I'm just thirsty. 1625 00:59:18,975 --> 00:59:20,115 It's not that it's so hot. 1626 00:59:20,115 --> 00:59:20,355 Just 1627 00:59:20,355 --> 00:59:20,415 Yeah. 1628 00:59:20,415 --> 00:59:21,195 Water right there. 1629 00:59:21,195 --> 00:59:21,525 And your 1630 00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:23,175 I know, but I don't feel like drinking water. 1631 00:59:23,175 --> 00:59:24,645 I feel like drinking. 1632 00:59:24,735 --> 00:59:26,475 You know how much I love drinking dairy. 1633 00:59:28,695 --> 00:59:29,235 Got it. 1634 00:59:29,235 --> 00:59:30,015 So it's bugging you. 1635 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,555 No, no, no, no, no. 1636 00:59:31,575 --> 00:59:31,665 I 1637 00:59:31,665 --> 00:59:32,100 just, it's okay. 1638 00:59:32,175 --> 00:59:32,655 It's okay. 1639 00:59:32,655 --> 00:59:33,705 It's okay to be scared. 1640 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,725 I just, I just like, I'm just jonesing for some chocolate milk. 1641 00:59:38,445 --> 00:59:38,925 Gotcha. 1642 00:59:40,515 --> 00:59:45,915 I think how we perceive reality is what the matrix is because your reality is 1643 00:59:45,915 --> 00:59:47,295 gonna be completely different from mine. 1644 00:59:47,535 --> 00:59:51,045 The people listening to this podcast right now are not gonna have the same reality 1645 00:59:51,045 --> 00:59:53,025 of burning their face off of these wings. 1646 00:59:53,025 --> 00:59:53,035 Yep. 1647 00:59:53,505 --> 00:59:56,895 And they're gonna be taking things a little bit differently than, than we are. 1648 00:59:57,375 --> 01:00:01,305 Like the Russians will have two distinct words, one for 1649 01:00:01,305 --> 01:00:02,835 light blue, one for dark blue. 1650 01:00:03,195 --> 01:00:05,325 So if you ask them and you say. 1651 01:00:06,194 --> 01:00:06,884 What is that? 1652 01:00:06,884 --> 01:00:08,475 They'll come up with one word or the other. 1653 01:00:08,564 --> 01:00:12,075 They can look at something and they have a little bit broader 1654 01:00:12,075 --> 01:00:16,725 spectrum of, uh, verbiage for what they experience around them. 1655 01:00:16,725 --> 01:00:19,365 Whereas somebody else will say, Hey, that says blue, so they've 1656 01:00:19,395 --> 01:00:22,904 now got a 50% greater experience. 1657 01:00:23,205 --> 01:00:25,964 If you, I showed you two different red things and one's a light 1658 01:00:25,964 --> 01:00:28,334 red and once a dark red, you're gonna say, what color is it? 1659 01:00:28,334 --> 01:00:28,814 It's red. 1660 01:00:28,814 --> 01:00:29,055 Right? 1661 01:00:29,205 --> 01:00:29,354 Yeah. 1662 01:00:29,834 --> 01:00:34,754 The more that we delve into language and perception, the more we 1663 01:00:34,754 --> 01:00:38,234 realize how these ex our, our own. 1664 01:00:39,315 --> 01:00:42,735 Our own interpretation on things is so influenced by things 1665 01:00:42,975 --> 01:00:44,325 that happen outside of us. 1666 01:00:44,475 --> 01:00:44,625 Hmm. 1667 01:00:44,925 --> 01:00:51,225 And if we can realize that our interpretation of what's happening around 1668 01:00:51,225 --> 01:00:54,855 us is entirely our of our own making. 1669 01:00:54,885 --> 01:00:55,035 Yep. 1670 01:00:55,185 --> 01:00:57,015 Then we can control our own matrix. 1671 01:00:57,645 --> 01:00:58,035 Gotcha. 1672 01:00:58,245 --> 01:01:01,455 And it's a, it's a reverse on manifest destiny. 1673 01:01:01,935 --> 01:01:02,325 Right. 1674 01:01:02,355 --> 01:01:05,715 So in instead of saying, oh, I put it out to the universe and then the 1675 01:01:05,715 --> 01:01:06,945 universe will give it back to me. 1676 01:01:07,245 --> 01:01:07,485 Yeah. 1677 01:01:07,785 --> 01:01:11,775 I'm basically creating my own destiny as I move through because I presuppose, I'm 1678 01:01:11,775 --> 01:01:17,985 ca capable, I presuppose I'm competent, and you'll have troubles and failures 1679 01:01:17,985 --> 01:01:20,955 and setbacks along the way, but you know where you're going and you'll 1680 01:01:20,955 --> 01:01:22,605 eventually end, end up in that place. 1681 01:01:23,055 --> 01:01:23,235 Mm-hmm. 1682 01:01:23,241 --> 01:01:26,985 Or if somebody does something to you, you got the ability to take that as I'm 1683 01:01:26,985 --> 01:01:30,615 angry at you, or, Hey, maybe you're having a bad day and it doesn't even touch me. 1684 01:01:30,735 --> 01:01:31,035 Right. 1685 01:01:31,035 --> 01:01:31,095 Yeah. 1686 01:01:31,695 --> 01:01:36,675 All, all of that ideology in the matrix. 1687 01:01:36,735 --> 01:01:37,485 So that would be. 1688 01:01:38,415 --> 01:01:43,545 Um, it's very a poorly worded way of me talking about one conspiracy. 1689 01:01:43,545 --> 01:01:45,465 And then the other is, other one, of course is Bigfoot. 1690 01:01:45,855 --> 01:01:46,335 Well, of course. 1691 01:01:46,425 --> 01:01:46,725 Right? 1692 01:01:46,785 --> 01:01:47,745 Yeah, no, a hundred percent. 1693 01:01:47,745 --> 01:01:52,215 As a kid, I spent so much time looking for Bigfoot, and I swear I 1694 01:01:52,215 --> 01:01:54,945 found Bigfoot tracks in the snow. 1695 01:01:54,945 --> 01:01:55,035 Was 1696 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:55,050 it 1697 01:01:55,050 --> 01:01:55,520 your own footprint? 1698 01:01:56,260 --> 01:01:56,480 Wow. 1699 01:01:56,820 --> 01:01:57,040 No. 1700 01:01:57,140 --> 01:01:59,835 And well, I had giant snowboard boots on. 1701 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:00,000 Okay. 1702 01:02:00,005 --> 01:02:04,515 'cause that was my, that was my footwear that I was for everything. 1703 01:02:04,515 --> 01:02:04,575 Yeah. 1704 01:02:04,635 --> 01:02:05,565 Use it for snowboarding. 1705 01:02:05,565 --> 01:02:10,395 Use it for, and the tracks are bigger than my, my, uh, prints. 1706 01:02:10,425 --> 01:02:15,855 It had angles of like where the leg would be going in and, uh, in all 1707 01:02:15,855 --> 01:02:20,415 likelihood, maybe it was just snow falling off trees in a regular pattern. 1708 01:02:20,535 --> 01:02:20,685 Hmm. 1709 01:02:20,775 --> 01:02:23,745 And it melted and got bigger. 1710 01:02:23,925 --> 01:02:25,035 Who knows what it was. 1711 01:02:25,155 --> 01:02:27,405 But I spent a long time looking for Bigfoot. 1712 01:02:27,645 --> 01:02:27,825 Hmm. 1713 01:02:27,825 --> 01:02:32,025 Until I realized he's not a cryptid or a crypted. 1714 01:02:32,235 --> 01:02:33,735 He's an extra dimensional being. 1715 01:02:35,545 --> 01:02:36,085 Oh, okay. 1716 01:02:36,690 --> 01:02:40,350 Did you know in wa, did you know in Washington, and I say that tongue in 1717 01:02:40,350 --> 01:02:44,070 cheek, but did you know in the, just across the border, they've got a law that 1718 01:02:44,070 --> 01:02:46,680 says you're not allowed to hunt Bigfoot? 1719 01:02:47,245 --> 01:02:48,600 I, I did. 1720 01:02:48,779 --> 01:02:49,320 You know that? 1721 01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:49,710 I do. 1722 01:02:49,710 --> 01:02:49,980 Because 1723 01:02:49,980 --> 01:02:50,700 how'd you know this? 1724 01:02:50,730 --> 01:02:54,360 Well, because I happen to be married to someone that's saland to Bigfoot lore. 1725 01:02:55,170 --> 01:02:59,640 And I think the whole reason is, is because the, the lore and mythology 1726 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,750 about Bigfoot is so big in the Pacific Northwest, that they didn't 1727 01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:06,840 want people accidentally shooting at somebody in a Bigfoot costume. 1728 01:03:07,230 --> 01:03:07,470 Oh, that's fair. 1729 01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:09,090 So they, they pass that law. 1730 01:03:09,090 --> 01:03:09,990 It's actually on paper. 1731 01:03:10,045 --> 01:03:10,125 Hmm. 1732 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:11,549 Okay. 1733 01:03:11,549 --> 01:03:12,450 Should we try the next wing? 1734 01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:13,980 Yeah, let's do it. 1735 01:03:14,399 --> 01:03:15,779 Because, so this is the bomb. 1736 01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:19,950 I remember last time we got to the deba, I was on fire. 1737 01:03:20,310 --> 01:03:20,370 Yeah. 1738 01:03:20,370 --> 01:03:22,500 And this was like, eh, not that bad. 1739 01:03:22,980 --> 01:03:27,569 Now this is hot and we feel it, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm not terrible. 1740 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:27,930 You 1741 01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:28,799 Well, I'm not terrible. 1742 01:03:28,830 --> 01:03:33,899 And, and all honesty, I, I genuinely did feel like drinking chocolate milk. 1743 01:03:34,589 --> 01:03:34,830 Yeah. 1744 01:03:34,890 --> 01:03:35,254 Oh, this is gross. 1745 01:03:35,274 --> 01:03:35,759 And I regret 1746 01:03:36,149 --> 01:03:36,240 thick. 1747 01:03:36,299 --> 01:03:36,690 I know. 1748 01:03:36,690 --> 01:03:37,080 It is. 1749 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,940 It that one and the last one are so thick. 1750 01:03:38,940 --> 01:03:39,420 It's gross. 1751 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,520 Um, I, I am not gonna drink more chocolate milk. 1752 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,980 'cause it just made all the spice come back after it wasn't, but 1753 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:49,140 excellent. 1754 01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:49,440 Okay. 1755 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,700 We'll d dab it up there. 1756 01:03:50,759 --> 01:03:52,080 You can just see how Chris did. 1757 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,250 It already is online. 1758 01:03:54,330 --> 01:03:54,690 Yeah. 1759 01:03:55,890 --> 01:03:57,210 No half measures. 1760 01:03:57,210 --> 01:03:58,109 No half measures. 1761 01:04:01,410 --> 01:04:02,069 It's like that. 1762 01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:02,430 Uh. 1763 01:04:03,345 --> 01:04:04,245 That's, I think that's enough. 1764 01:04:04,245 --> 01:04:04,995 How much did you put on? 1765 01:04:05,325 --> 01:04:05,775 Lots. 1766 01:04:06,135 --> 01:04:07,245 I feel like that's lots. 1767 01:04:07,335 --> 01:04:07,755 Sure. 1768 01:04:08,025 --> 01:04:09,255 Uh, you got some on your other wing there? 1769 01:04:09,255 --> 01:04:09,795 That's cheating. 1770 01:04:10,605 --> 01:04:11,055 Oh, crap. 1771 01:04:13,815 --> 01:04:15,465 Well, it's all gonna get added together. 1772 01:04:15,495 --> 01:04:15,795 Yep. 1773 01:04:17,115 --> 01:04:17,325 Okay. 1774 01:04:17,475 --> 01:04:17,895 Go ahead. 1775 01:04:18,465 --> 01:04:18,885 Okay. 1776 01:04:19,245 --> 01:04:20,805 Oh, you know what? 1777 01:04:21,735 --> 01:04:22,545 Mind over matter. 1778 01:04:22,635 --> 01:04:23,175 You got it 1779 01:04:23,235 --> 01:04:23,565 right. 1780 01:04:24,435 --> 01:04:25,590 You don't, wh so it don't matter. 1781 01:04:25,700 --> 01:04:26,190 Exactly. 1782 01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:27,855 It was hot. 1783 01:04:29,085 --> 01:04:30,075 You're feeling this one, are you? 1784 01:04:30,375 --> 01:04:30,975 Mm-hmm. 1785 01:04:36,410 --> 01:04:39,255 Man, that jaw you could hear clicking from a mile away. 1786 01:04:40,035 --> 01:04:40,455 I know. 1787 01:04:41,710 --> 01:04:42,915 Physio's making it better too. 1788 01:04:44,590 --> 01:04:45,170 Oh my God. 1789 01:04:49,635 --> 01:04:52,995 Alright, so, uh, the Wild Kitchen Podcast, where do you see that going 1790 01:04:52,995 --> 01:04:56,055 in the next 10, 5, 10, 15 years? 1791 01:04:56,235 --> 01:04:57,495 What's your, what's your goal with it? 1792 01:04:59,605 --> 01:05:03,120 Um, it's really challenging to speak right now. 1793 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:04,620 Um, 1794 01:05:07,260 --> 01:05:12,780 honestly, I just wanted to get to eight episodes and, uh, I realized 1795 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:19,290 when I was, I think, get one, that getting to eight wasn't gonna be hard 1796 01:05:20,460 --> 01:05:22,140 because I really, really enjoyed it. 1797 01:05:22,770 --> 01:05:32,250 Um, and as long as it continues to be fun, um, I'll just keep, I'll just 1798 01:05:32,250 --> 01:05:37,740 keep, um, finding new interesting things to learn about people to 1799 01:05:37,740 --> 01:05:41,700 talk to and, oh, Lordy, I thought. 1800 01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:51,600 Um, and to back up a bit, um, like on our recent trip down to Portland, you 1801 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,270 and I came to a bit of a. Realization. 1802 01:05:54,299 --> 01:05:57,299 Mm. Is it okay if I say it? 1803 01:05:57,660 --> 01:05:58,020 Yeah. 1804 01:05:58,110 --> 01:05:58,380 Okay. 1805 01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:58,620 Yeah. 1806 01:05:58,620 --> 01:05:59,069 Go nuts. 1807 01:05:59,130 --> 01:05:59,339 Yeah. 1808 01:05:59,339 --> 01:05:59,580 I'll, 1809 01:06:00,210 --> 01:06:00,900 were you gonna say it? 1810 01:06:01,290 --> 01:06:02,339 Oh, I can preface it for you. 1811 01:06:03,299 --> 01:06:06,150 And I've always had a difficult time when people ask me what I do for work. 1812 01:06:06,210 --> 01:06:06,360 Yeah. 1813 01:06:06,509 --> 01:06:07,589 Man, I'm feeling this one, eh? 1814 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:07,740 Yeah. 1815 01:06:07,980 --> 01:06:10,470 It, it's starting to dissipate a little bit now. 1816 01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:10,770 Okay. 1817 01:06:11,490 --> 01:06:12,299 What do you do for work? 1818 01:06:12,299 --> 01:06:16,259 Well, you know, we did gunsmithing, we work with the government, a court 1819 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,710 expert on, on different matters and a training company who got 1820 01:06:19,710 --> 01:06:22,620 a podcast and on and on it goes. 1821 01:06:23,819 --> 01:06:25,650 And people are like, well, like, what is that? 1822 01:06:25,650 --> 01:06:26,430 I'm like, what do you do? 1823 01:06:26,430 --> 01:06:28,110 And they dig deeper and deeper and I thought, you know 1824 01:06:28,110 --> 01:06:31,290 what, I do all those things. 1825 01:06:31,350 --> 01:06:35,910 But the whole goal behind that, we came up on this trip, was, 1826 01:06:36,990 --> 01:06:41,580 we wanna do, or what we do is we do cool shit with cool people. 1827 01:06:41,790 --> 01:06:42,509 Well, and that's it. 1828 01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:43,049 Right. 1829 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:43,980 That's, that's the goal. 1830 01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:44,880 And that's life. 1831 01:06:45,150 --> 01:06:45,390 Yeah. 1832 01:06:45,509 --> 01:06:48,240 Like you want to go through life and you want to be able to do cool shit. 1833 01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:48,750 Yep. 1834 01:06:48,870 --> 01:06:49,589 Enjoy yourself. 1835 01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:51,240 Look back and say, I pushed myself. 1836 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,140 I had a great time. 1837 01:06:52,890 --> 01:06:54,150 And I wanna do it with cool people. 1838 01:06:54,210 --> 01:06:54,360 Yep. 1839 01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:56,760 Hold on. 1840 01:06:56,850 --> 01:06:57,750 No, I'm sorry. 1841 01:06:57,900 --> 01:06:58,980 What is this? 1842 01:07:00,570 --> 01:07:01,350 There's no weakness. 1843 01:07:01,710 --> 01:07:02,310 No, no. 1844 01:07:02,310 --> 01:07:03,990 Shame in having 1845 01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:05,250 a little, are you kidding? 1846 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,000 I think that's a mistake. 1847 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:09,570 Mm-hmm. 1848 01:07:11,310 --> 01:07:14,280 I'm thinking down the road, I'm thinking 10, 15 years down the road, 1849 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,640 my face is sweating. 1850 01:07:18,030 --> 01:07:18,330 Yeah. 1851 01:07:18,780 --> 01:07:19,530 It's all red. 1852 01:07:19,530 --> 01:07:20,430 I can see it in the mirror. 1853 01:07:20,490 --> 01:07:20,940 In the mirror. 1854 01:07:21,030 --> 01:07:22,710 I can see it in the, the monitor here. 1855 01:07:22,770 --> 01:07:22,860 Yeah. 1856 01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:24,270 Did that help? 1857 01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:24,720 No. 1858 01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:25,290 Good. 1859 01:07:25,410 --> 01:07:26,250 Because I don't want any. 1860 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:26,670 Yeah. 1861 01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:28,170 Okay. 1862 01:07:28,170 --> 01:07:28,830 What's your question? 1863 01:07:29,820 --> 01:07:30,270 Um, 1864 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:33,240 okay. 1865 01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:36,600 Um, we're getting a little older. 1866 01:07:36,870 --> 01:07:38,100 We have two more to go. 1867 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,480 I know, but I remember the last time, oh God, I want some water so bad. 1868 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,640 But I know it's not gonna be a good idea if Pepto Bizzle didn't 1869 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,490 help as we're getting older. 1870 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,090 As someone that made a few mistakes in your life, 1871 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:52,560 I dunno what you're talking about. 1872 01:07:52,590 --> 01:07:55,350 Uh, what advice would you give your younger self? 1873 01:07:57,450 --> 01:07:59,670 Is this your question or is this an AI question? 1874 01:08:00,150 --> 01:08:01,950 Uh, no, it's one that I wanted to ask. 1875 01:08:02,220 --> 01:08:02,550 Okay. 1876 01:08:02,580 --> 01:08:02,970 Yeah. 1877 01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:10,980 Um, it's okay to fail and to view those failures as stepping stones to success. 1878 01:08:12,180 --> 01:08:15,060 That each and every failure that you're making is pushing you towards 1879 01:08:15,060 --> 01:08:23,160 something, and that you can reframe those failures in a way to, uh, affect 1880 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:28,020 you and those around you positively, as opposed to, uh, I'm no good. 1881 01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:29,700 I'm stupid, I'm not good at school. 1882 01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:30,779 Oh, I messed up again. 1883 01:08:30,779 --> 01:08:31,649 I can't believe it. 1884 01:08:31,649 --> 01:08:32,640 I was trying to do good. 1885 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:33,810 I thought this would be fun. 1886 01:08:33,810 --> 01:08:35,069 I thought this would be a good idea. 1887 01:08:35,069 --> 01:08:41,520 And I guess I'm just the troublemaker and the opposite is true. 1888 01:08:41,550 --> 01:08:43,290 I mean, intent has to play into that. 1889 01:08:43,380 --> 01:08:44,729 Why are you doing these things? 1890 01:08:44,729 --> 01:08:45,390 Well, for me. 1891 01:08:46,020 --> 01:08:48,930 I had no idea what I was doing these things. 1892 01:08:49,260 --> 01:08:52,200 I had no idea what I was gonna be doing later that day, let alone the 1893 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,640 end of the week or the next year. 1894 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,650 I just did things in the moment. 1895 01:08:55,770 --> 01:08:55,950 Yeah. 1896 01:08:56,700 --> 01:09:01,890 I remember as a youth, I playing around with pyrotechnics and, uh, 1897 01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:08,430 blew up a, uh, a mailbox and, uh, one of those government red ones. 1898 01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:11,880 And I remember the police asking me about that and saying like, well, 1899 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,520 what about all the mail that's inside there and all the people that 1900 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,900 are now not gonna get their mail? 1901 01:09:15,900 --> 01:09:20,130 And I said, well, to be honest with the officer, that never crossed my 1902 01:09:20,130 --> 01:09:21,420 mind that there'd be mail in there. 1903 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,360 And he said, excuse me, in a mailbox. 1904 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:25,200 He didn't think there'd be mail. 1905 01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:26,250 No, I didn't. 1906 01:09:26,250 --> 01:09:26,700 Right. 1907 01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:30,120 And it was just the stupid decisions you make in the moment. 1908 01:09:30,780 --> 01:09:30,870 Mm-hmm. 1909 01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:34,890 And, uh, maybe there's a reason why you're making them and 1910 01:09:34,890 --> 01:09:35,910 what you can learn from them. 1911 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:41,760 And I think that mind shift propelled me a lot further forward that 1912 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,580 you're not broken, you're not bad. 1913 01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:50,279 You're just learning how to deal with things properly in a society 1914 01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:52,559 where you weren't properly taught. 1915 01:09:52,559 --> 01:09:52,620 Yeah. 1916 01:09:52,769 --> 01:09:55,590 And you had, you had wrong inputs and, and modeling. 1917 01:09:56,580 --> 01:09:56,820 Yeah. 1918 01:09:56,820 --> 01:10:03,900 And I think it sort of ties into your, uh, your whole matrix conversation about, 1919 01:10:04,530 --> 01:10:11,880 you know, you're just not using what's happened in the past to frame your future. 1920 01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:13,139 Yeah. 1921 01:10:13,410 --> 01:10:15,990 And not as well, let. 1922 01:10:17,190 --> 01:10:20,219 Inputs from other people's perspectives and thoughts and 1923 01:10:20,219 --> 01:10:22,710 opinions on you and how they see you. 1924 01:10:23,730 --> 01:10:24,269 That doesn't matter. 1925 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:25,530 Yeah. 1926 01:10:25,530 --> 01:10:27,690 One of the things that comes out of all of that too, the more you 1927 01:10:27,690 --> 01:10:31,650 push forward, you're gonna find people, you're gonna find haters. 1928 01:10:31,799 --> 01:10:31,980 Yep. 1929 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,620 The more you put yourself out there, there's gonna be people who have 1930 01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:37,380 opinions and they opinions are contrary and they're welcome to the opinion. 1931 01:10:37,380 --> 01:10:40,830 And they can have that opinion and they might try and rally other people 1932 01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:46,860 up and, and to support their side or whatever it might be, but that's them. 1933 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:47,190 Yeah. 1934 01:10:47,490 --> 01:10:50,460 And if you're not pushing, no one's paying attention. 1935 01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:53,280 If you don't have haters, what are you really doing with your life? 1936 01:10:53,639 --> 01:10:55,679 And that hate never comes from above. 1937 01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:56,070 No, 1938 01:10:56,250 --> 01:10:57,960 it always comes from below. 1939 01:10:58,500 --> 01:11:03,509 In, in the initially that hate used to really, at, at least for me, I knew 1940 01:11:03,514 --> 01:11:05,400 it, it really used to bug me a lot. 1941 01:11:05,940 --> 01:11:10,950 Uh, and I would take, I did take it really personally, and I think I'd probably still 1942 01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:13,410 take it personally, but not in a bad way. 1943 01:11:14,235 --> 01:11:17,924 It's like, it's like fuel, like it's like we're doing something right. 1944 01:11:18,195 --> 01:11:22,514 If someone, like, if, if you were like, Hey, I have a problem with 1945 01:11:22,514 --> 01:11:23,835 what you're doing, that's different. 1946 01:11:23,835 --> 01:11:29,235 But someone who's not my friend who has no, no connection to me, no power 1947 01:11:29,235 --> 01:11:32,655 over me, like knowing that what I'm doing is upsetting them, I'm like, 1948 01:11:32,655 --> 01:11:33,945 damn, I must to doing something. 1949 01:11:33,945 --> 01:11:34,275 Right. 1950 01:11:34,424 --> 01:11:34,634 Right. 1951 01:11:34,724 --> 01:11:35,684 I must be pushing. 1952 01:11:36,434 --> 01:11:39,134 It's like that saying like, you wouldn't accept advice from 1953 01:11:39,134 --> 01:11:41,565 somebody who hasn't walked the path that you're hoping to walk. 1954 01:11:41,570 --> 01:11:41,790 Right? 1955 01:11:41,835 --> 01:11:41,894 Yeah. 1956 01:11:42,434 --> 01:11:46,394 Well, in the same breath, why would you accept the hate from someone? 1957 01:11:46,575 --> 01:11:46,785 Mm-hmm. 1958 01:11:47,174 --> 01:11:50,025 Who hasn't walked that path that you're hoping to, hoping to walk. 1959 01:11:50,085 --> 01:11:50,325 Yeah. 1960 01:11:50,894 --> 01:11:51,375 I love it. 1961 01:11:51,495 --> 01:11:53,174 I now I just like bring it on. 1962 01:11:53,955 --> 01:11:55,724 So, uh, what do we have next? 1963 01:11:55,724 --> 01:11:55,755 Uh, 1964 01:11:56,955 --> 01:11:57,344 it's 1965 01:11:57,344 --> 01:11:58,695 Queen Majesty. 1966 01:11:58,695 --> 01:12:01,245 Ooh, Sicilian scorpion hot sauce. 1967 01:12:01,815 --> 01:12:02,835 How do your lips feel? 1968 01:12:03,375 --> 01:12:04,184 Can you still feel 'em? 1969 01:12:04,304 --> 01:12:04,964 Yeah, I can. 1970 01:12:05,025 --> 01:12:05,325 Okay. 1971 01:12:05,775 --> 01:12:06,280 So my, no, I'm 1972 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:06,360 good. 1973 01:12:06,495 --> 01:12:08,474 My sides and my top of my lips. 1974 01:12:08,535 --> 01:12:08,714 Yeah. 1975 01:12:08,745 --> 01:12:10,094 They feel like they're swollen. 1976 01:12:10,665 --> 01:12:12,315 My tongue's calming down. 1977 01:12:13,035 --> 01:12:14,955 Yeah, but, well, I, I put a lot on, 1978 01:12:15,075 --> 01:12:15,975 it's a little spicy. 1979 01:12:16,515 --> 01:12:18,135 It's a little bit spicy, she says, but I 1980 01:12:18,135 --> 01:12:20,955 mean, this sauce, it sounds like it's really like, nice. 1981 01:12:21,105 --> 01:12:24,495 It's like clean and majesty, and then it's like scorpion death. 1982 01:12:24,855 --> 01:12:28,065 She drank Pepto Bismol says, oh, it doesn't help at all. 1983 01:12:28,725 --> 01:12:32,205 I think you're trying to save the Pepto Bismol for yourself. 1984 01:12:32,835 --> 01:12:33,975 We have another bottle at home. 1985 01:12:34,035 --> 01:12:35,205 Okay, let's see. 1986 01:12:35,655 --> 01:12:35,925 Yeah, 1987 01:12:37,725 --> 01:12:38,415 can you see that? 1988 01:12:39,015 --> 01:12:39,195 Yeah. 1989 01:12:39,195 --> 01:12:39,645 It's a lot. 1990 01:12:39,825 --> 01:12:40,215 Okay. 1991 01:12:40,845 --> 01:12:41,805 In for a penny, right? 1992 01:12:41,895 --> 01:12:41,985 Yep. 1993 01:12:42,525 --> 01:12:43,275 Let's hold it up. 1994 01:12:43,515 --> 01:12:44,835 Do we see this on the camera? 1995 01:12:45,405 --> 01:12:46,455 Eh, probably not. 1996 01:12:46,455 --> 01:12:47,085 Depth the field. 1997 01:12:47,085 --> 01:12:48,465 Go ahead, dip yours up. 1998 01:12:52,695 --> 01:12:54,195 That's at least as much. 1999 01:12:54,195 --> 01:12:56,235 If not, if not twice as much as you did. 2000 01:12:56,565 --> 01:12:56,715 Yeah. 2001 01:12:56,745 --> 01:12:57,375 For everyone that 2002 01:12:57,465 --> 01:12:58,575 I'd say that's a quarter. 2003 01:12:58,785 --> 01:13:02,565 No, if anyone can't see it, it's like four times as much as you did. 2004 01:13:02,565 --> 01:13:03,195 It's a quarter. 2005 01:13:04,395 --> 01:13:05,085 Tap, tap, tap. 2006 01:13:08,145 --> 01:13:08,595 Go ahead. 2007 01:13:09,525 --> 01:13:10,245 Let's do this. 2008 01:13:10,815 --> 01:13:11,835 Why are you tapping it? 2009 01:13:12,075 --> 01:13:15,855 I'm making it go all the way around so that one bite isn't like the worst bite. 2010 01:13:15,855 --> 01:13:15,915 Yeah, 2011 01:13:16,215 --> 01:13:17,115 make it the worst bite. 2012 01:13:17,475 --> 01:13:18,735 I feel it in my belly. 2013 01:13:18,735 --> 01:13:18,765 I 2014 01:13:19,245 --> 01:13:19,635 do too. 2015 01:13:19,900 --> 01:13:20,540 It isn't good. 2016 01:13:21,915 --> 01:13:22,275 Okay, 2017 01:13:22,395 --> 01:13:22,905 super. 2018 01:13:23,055 --> 01:13:24,585 It's gonna be super bowel Sunday. 2019 01:13:26,385 --> 01:13:26,955 Oh Jesus. 2020 01:13:31,665 --> 01:13:33,795 I remember having a hot wing eating contest. 2021 01:13:33,825 --> 01:13:38,325 O'Hara is in Richmond, and they would have these suicide wings and we'd go 2022 01:13:38,325 --> 01:13:42,105 down there and they were dirt cheap. 2023 01:13:43,065 --> 01:13:44,625 Eat as many hot wings as we can. 2024 01:13:45,495 --> 01:13:47,145 Absolutely melter faced off. 2025 01:13:47,625 --> 01:13:51,165 And I remember this one guy, he's like, I can eat more wings. 2026 01:13:51,165 --> 01:13:51,885 I can eat more wings. 2027 01:13:51,885 --> 01:13:52,605 And he did. 2028 01:13:52,665 --> 01:13:55,605 And uh, we had pictures of him in the back parking lot 2029 01:13:55,605 --> 01:13:57,645 afterwards, retching it all up. 2030 01:13:57,705 --> 01:14:01,215 And then we submitted that picture to Max Magazine because at the end 2031 01:14:01,215 --> 01:14:04,245 of their magazine they would have this little picture that people could 2032 01:14:04,245 --> 01:14:06,645 caption and they never did run with it. 2033 01:14:06,645 --> 01:14:10,275 But um, yeah, that was, I think the first time I saw somebody 2034 01:14:10,275 --> 01:14:13,035 vomit off of eating spicy food. 2035 01:14:14,385 --> 01:14:15,975 I wonder if there'll be a second time. 2036 01:14:17,175 --> 01:14:18,105 That's not the goal. 2037 01:14:18,165 --> 01:14:20,715 I can't imagine how horrifying it would be to come up. 2038 01:14:20,895 --> 01:14:23,115 So it doesn't sound like it's affecting you. 2039 01:14:24,015 --> 01:14:24,405 No. 2040 01:14:24,405 --> 01:14:26,145 The dal's way worse. 2041 01:14:26,475 --> 01:14:28,095 I mean, it's now creeping up on me. 2042 01:14:28,665 --> 01:14:29,745 Yeah, no, it comes in later. 2043 01:14:31,365 --> 01:14:34,665 Do you think maybe it's 'cause you melted everything already? 2044 01:14:34,965 --> 01:14:35,445 Yeah. 2045 01:14:37,650 --> 01:14:40,470 Yeah, it's, uh, my God. 2046 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,640 So tell me about some positive influences you had in your youth. 2047 01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:49,290 Um, okay, I'm gonna go down the same path I go. 2048 01:14:49,530 --> 01:14:56,820 This, this road is, well, rutted, my grandparents, um, they were just 2049 01:14:56,820 --> 01:15:02,040 like, and, and across the board all I, I never met all of my grandparents, 2050 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,570 but the ones that I did meet 2051 01:15:05,580 --> 01:15:07,890 have massively impacted me in a positive way. 2052 01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:13,530 Um, just like, and, and I hope it'll translate when we are grandparents, but 2053 01:15:13,530 --> 01:15:20,100 like, just the love that a grandparent gives or grandchild is, is special. 2054 01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:25,320 Um, but I was lucky enough to have some really amazing grandparents 2055 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,110 like my, my mom's parents. 2056 01:15:29,175 --> 01:15:29,685 We're just 2057 01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:30,110 cool. 2058 01:15:30,110 --> 01:15:30,120 Okay. 2059 01:15:30,315 --> 01:15:31,605 Why don't we just ask what they did? 2060 01:15:31,755 --> 01:15:32,055 Okay. 2061 01:15:32,595 --> 01:15:33,525 Uh, my, 2062 01:15:33,675 --> 01:15:35,265 I can tell that the hot sauce is affecting you. 2063 01:15:35,265 --> 01:15:35,325 Yeah. 2064 01:15:35,325 --> 01:15:37,845 Because you're barely keeping a clear in sentence together. 2065 01:15:39,855 --> 01:15:40,665 My, so what did they do? 2066 01:15:40,665 --> 01:15:41,475 That was so cool. 2067 01:15:41,505 --> 01:15:41,745 Okay. 2068 01:15:41,745 --> 01:15:45,045 So my, my grandma, she was, she was a homemaker. 2069 01:15:45,135 --> 01:15:48,645 Uh, woke up at like five, at least, I don't know, not really 2070 01:15:48,645 --> 01:15:49,965 Every morning baked bread 2071 01:15:50,205 --> 01:15:50,355 mm-hmm. 2072 01:15:50,745 --> 01:15:53,115 Would, you know, had the amazing garden. 2073 01:15:53,115 --> 01:15:58,485 So I learned from her gardening and baking and picking mushrooms. 2074 01:15:58,485 --> 01:16:02,835 And my grandpa digging clams, like I said, and like, it was just 2075 01:16:03,885 --> 01:16:04,905 so they made food. 2076 01:16:05,355 --> 01:16:05,655 Yeah. 2077 01:16:05,745 --> 01:16:06,405 And that was it. 2078 01:16:07,425 --> 01:16:08,325 No, they, I, 2079 01:16:08,745 --> 01:16:11,385 I think it was how they made the food and why they made the food. 2080 01:16:11,415 --> 01:16:11,715 Yeah. 2081 01:16:12,525 --> 01:16:12,885 Thank you. 2082 01:16:14,115 --> 01:16:16,395 Um, there was so much love in it. 2083 01:16:16,785 --> 01:16:20,565 It really was like it was, it's very, oh my God. 2084 01:16:21,165 --> 01:16:22,245 Are we gonna make it to the end? 2085 01:16:22,305 --> 01:16:22,635 Yeah, we will. 2086 01:16:23,610 --> 01:16:23,830 Woo. 2087 01:16:25,065 --> 01:16:26,055 This one is like, 2088 01:16:26,115 --> 01:16:27,885 do people ever give up on that hauling show? 2089 01:16:27,915 --> 01:16:28,425 Yeah. 2090 01:16:28,425 --> 01:16:28,435 Yeah. 2091 01:16:28,435 --> 01:16:28,740 Really? 2092 01:16:28,875 --> 01:16:29,265 Yeah. 2093 01:16:29,265 --> 01:16:31,335 I think like DJ Khaled made it to Wing three. 2094 01:16:31,965 --> 01:16:34,485 Um, this one's like airborne. 2095 01:16:35,205 --> 01:16:37,395 Look at the, and I don't know if the cameras will pick it 2096 01:16:37,395 --> 01:16:39,225 up, but my face is glistening. 2097 01:16:39,255 --> 01:16:39,915 Yeah, it is. 2098 01:16:40,845 --> 01:16:45,195 Um, yeah, and I apologize to the listeners if this, this conversation has 2099 01:16:45,195 --> 01:16:46,935 derailed pretty badly at this point, but 2100 01:16:47,685 --> 01:16:49,575 if we start hallucinating, like Homer did, oh 2101 01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:50,220 my God. 2102 01:16:50,610 --> 01:16:51,660 It's a talking coyote. 2103 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:58,785 My, my grandparents from Nova Scotia showed me, uh, how you can 2104 01:16:58,785 --> 01:17:03,615 show your love through food, uh, like every day, their actions. 2105 01:17:03,615 --> 01:17:06,315 It was just like, it's how I wanted to live. 2106 01:17:06,315 --> 01:17:10,275 Now, now I look back and I'm like, I wanna live how my grandparents lived. 2107 01:17:10,275 --> 01:17:15,465 I wanna have a big acreage and have a garden and go fishing and just 2108 01:17:15,465 --> 01:17:20,565 like be outside, um, and eat soup. 2109 01:17:22,245 --> 01:17:22,665 Okay. 2110 01:17:22,845 --> 01:17:23,085 Yeah. 2111 01:17:24,810 --> 01:17:27,540 Um, did you have any more questions for me? 2112 01:17:27,540 --> 01:17:28,560 'cause we have one last question. 2113 01:17:28,860 --> 01:17:29,670 Well, one last wing 2114 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,050 that we can save for the last wing. 2115 01:17:36,210 --> 01:17:37,650 Um, no, I don't. 2116 01:17:37,980 --> 01:17:38,310 Okay. 2117 01:17:38,370 --> 01:17:39,360 Not one that I wanna say. 2118 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,400 It's, it's not interesting. 2119 01:17:42,810 --> 01:17:43,500 Is it ai? 2120 01:17:44,670 --> 01:17:48,000 No, I, no, it's just, I don't find it interesting at this point, so, 2121 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:48,480 yeah. 2122 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:49,650 Can you read the last one for me? 2123 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,310 Yeah, it's hot ones. 2124 01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:59,220 The last dab experience over 91% pepper X hot sauce. 2125 01:18:00,570 --> 01:18:04,140 So I guess it's, uh, pepper, they call pepper acts, which 2126 01:18:05,220 --> 01:18:06,270 is supposed to be terrible. 2127 01:18:07,290 --> 01:18:07,650 Okay. 2128 01:18:07,860 --> 01:18:08,250 Dab it up. 2129 01:18:09,930 --> 01:18:10,040 Oh my god. 2130 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:10,295 I feel like. 2131 01:18:11,325 --> 01:18:12,255 Maybe we just wait a minute. 2132 01:18:13,394 --> 01:18:14,384 Oh, heat level. 2133 01:18:14,384 --> 01:18:15,495 11 outta 10. 2134 01:18:15,825 --> 01:18:16,365 Oh, nice. 2135 01:18:16,365 --> 01:18:17,355 Turn it up to 11. 2136 01:18:17,445 --> 01:18:19,365 Make sure your eyes are gonna explode. 2137 01:18:21,105 --> 01:18:23,174 Right now the audience is just getting heavy breathing. 2138 01:18:23,235 --> 01:18:23,745 No, I don't. 2139 01:18:26,384 --> 01:18:27,360 Oh, god dammit. 2140 01:18:28,184 --> 01:18:31,005 Is it hot wings or is it adult entertainment? 2141 01:18:32,205 --> 01:18:33,315 It, this is like a smr. 2142 01:18:33,315 --> 01:18:33,644 It's like, 2143 01:18:34,394 --> 01:18:35,355 oh, I hate that stuff. 2144 01:18:35,355 --> 01:18:35,924 I do too. 2145 01:18:35,924 --> 01:18:40,424 With like the clicking, I don't have any nails because nails are fil, 2146 01:18:41,985 --> 01:18:43,394 it's just the most disgusting thing. 2147 01:18:43,724 --> 01:18:44,144 Okay. 2148 01:18:44,594 --> 01:18:45,105 So 2149 01:18:46,275 --> 01:18:46,605 yep. 2150 01:18:47,445 --> 01:18:48,525 Moving into the future. 2151 01:18:48,615 --> 01:18:49,455 Go ahead, take your wing. 2152 01:18:49,905 --> 01:18:52,724 I just, I feel for, to lister's sake, maybe I'll just wait. 2153 01:18:53,325 --> 01:18:53,804 Okay. 2154 01:18:54,674 --> 01:18:55,245 I'll eat it. 2155 01:18:55,245 --> 01:18:55,455 Hold on. 2156 01:18:55,455 --> 01:18:56,679 Oh my God. 2157 01:18:59,205 --> 01:18:59,985 You can do this. 2158 01:19:00,045 --> 01:19:00,344 Yep. 2159 01:19:00,764 --> 01:19:01,275 Of course I can. 2160 01:19:04,559 --> 01:19:05,849 Moving into the future. 2161 01:19:06,030 --> 01:19:06,210 Mm-hmm. 2162 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,420 Where do you see yourself? 2163 01:19:11,519 --> 01:19:12,000 Whoa. 2164 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,429 Still coming back on me. 2165 01:19:14,460 --> 01:19:14,550 Mm-hmm. 2166 01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:17,370 Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? 2167 01:19:21,434 --> 01:19:21,554 Hmm. 2168 01:19:23,220 --> 01:19:26,490 Like, honestly, you know, those memes with like the old lady with all the chickens 2169 01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:29,670 and like baby goats. 2170 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:30,150 Yeah. 2171 01:19:30,570 --> 01:19:40,440 Inner guarded, drinking a coffee, um, like fishing, hunting with like birds, like 2172 01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:43,470 hanging, building a fire, chopping wood. 2173 01:19:44,220 --> 01:19:46,170 Um, that sounds pretty sweet to me. 2174 01:19:47,429 --> 01:19:51,540 Um, having pickles, making pickles, making soup. 2175 01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:53,760 There's a lot of pickles in your future. 2176 01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:54,809 Yeah, I think so. 2177 01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:58,740 Like, yeah, there will be a lot of pickles in our future. 2178 01:19:59,250 --> 01:19:59,880 Um 2179 01:19:59,885 --> 01:20:00,184 mm-hmm. 2180 01:20:00,455 --> 01:20:00,745 Yeah. 2181 01:20:01,395 --> 01:20:02,445 Lots of animals around. 2182 01:20:04,215 --> 01:20:09,915 So you do a lot of really cool work with food fermenting. 2183 01:20:10,755 --> 01:20:10,875 Mm-hmm. 2184 01:20:11,115 --> 01:20:13,185 Dry aging, smoking. 2185 01:20:13,515 --> 01:20:13,725 Yep. 2186 01:20:14,115 --> 01:20:16,095 Curing, different curing cabinets. 2187 01:20:16,095 --> 01:20:19,425 Like a lot of stuff that's looked at as sort of like traditional 2188 01:20:19,575 --> 01:20:22,335 old time preservation methods. 2189 01:20:22,455 --> 01:20:22,575 Mm-hmm. 2190 01:20:23,445 --> 01:20:29,595 Developing good molds on cheeses and, and meats. 2191 01:20:30,765 --> 01:20:34,335 What's one area that you haven't worked at and looked at that 2192 01:20:34,335 --> 01:20:35,895 intrigues you that you might want to? 2193 01:20:37,005 --> 01:20:38,445 Uh, definitely not hot sauce. 2194 01:20:39,420 --> 01:20:41,775 I, I, I don't wanna explore hot sauces for a while. 2195 01:20:42,465 --> 01:20:42,885 Um, 2196 01:20:43,635 --> 01:20:44,505 did you wanna make your own? 2197 01:20:45,285 --> 01:20:46,005 I have. 2198 01:20:46,035 --> 01:20:46,305 Mm-hmm. 2199 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:48,340 No, 2200 01:20:48,945 --> 01:20:54,705 you made like regional hot sauces, like Southwestern North Carolina. 2201 01:20:57,585 --> 01:20:58,305 Yeah, I do. 2202 01:21:00,105 --> 01:21:00,235 Oh, pine area. 2203 01:21:00,235 --> 01:21:01,635 I like to, I like to be authentic. 2204 01:21:02,625 --> 01:21:05,325 Oh my God, I'm really sorry for everyone that has to watch this. 2205 01:21:05,775 --> 01:21:06,165 Uh, 2206 01:21:09,285 --> 01:21:09,525 yeah. 2207 01:21:09,525 --> 01:21:10,545 What do I wanna get into? 2208 01:21:10,635 --> 01:21:11,205 Um, 2209 01:21:12,105 --> 01:21:15,135 or if it'd be easier, what's something that the listener could get into? 2210 01:21:15,165 --> 01:21:19,695 What's something that would be a first step that would be beneficial 2211 01:21:19,695 --> 01:21:24,195 for people who want to do a similar style of cooking that you do? 2212 01:21:25,275 --> 01:21:25,875 Um, 2213 01:21:29,325 --> 01:21:32,235 well, I, I, I touched my nose and now my nose is not fine. 2214 01:21:33,705 --> 01:21:34,185 Um, 2215 01:21:34,965 --> 01:21:35,025 I'm 2216 01:21:35,025 --> 01:21:35,235 crying. 2217 01:21:35,630 --> 01:21:36,405 It's, it's hard. 2218 01:21:36,405 --> 01:21:39,135 You have to, I think you have to be guided by what you're interested in. 2219 01:21:39,135 --> 01:21:39,555 I mean, there's. 2220 01:21:40,845 --> 01:21:45,525 For people that don't like pickles, like I wouldn't say go down the 2221 01:21:45,525 --> 01:21:47,385 rabbit hole of fermentation. 2222 01:21:47,625 --> 01:21:52,035 However, I will say if you think you don't like Bix pickles, 2223 01:21:55,005 --> 01:22:00,705 try doing lacto fermented pickles because you might decide you do like 2224 01:22:00,705 --> 01:22:02,205 pickles 'cause it's very different bees. 2225 01:22:02,475 --> 01:22:07,635 Or if you don't like sauerkraut in the store, do try making your own 2226 01:22:07,635 --> 01:22:08,985 'cause you might actually like it. 2227 01:22:09,735 --> 01:22:13,155 Um, uh, I don't know. 2228 01:22:13,155 --> 01:22:18,315 Like we've done, we've done the beer root, we've done wine, we've done like kombucha 2229 01:22:18,315 --> 01:22:22,545 and ke fer and fermented drinks, and. 2230 01:22:24,254 --> 01:22:29,865 I don't know, maybe, maybe like going down the path of more complicated, um, 2231 01:22:30,224 --> 01:22:33,195 sausages talking with Elias last week and 2232 01:22:33,434 --> 01:22:34,035 yeah, that was cool. 2233 01:22:34,035 --> 01:22:37,575 More Della and things like that, like emulsified sausages and 2234 01:22:38,295 --> 01:22:42,884 getting a little bit more confidence and bigger projects like that. 2235 01:22:42,884 --> 01:22:52,094 Like going down the, um, what might be cool is like, like handling a pig the 2236 01:22:52,094 --> 01:22:55,485 way they used to like a hundred years ago, where it's like we're slaughtering 2237 01:22:55,485 --> 01:22:59,384 a pig or we're butchering it and we're gonna make sausages and we're gonna 2238 01:22:59,384 --> 01:23:02,535 take the blood and we're gonna do like everything from start to finish. 2239 01:23:02,535 --> 01:23:06,405 Get a group of people to come in and like have a bunch of friends in. 2240 01:23:06,405 --> 01:23:09,585 Instead of doing a pig roast, have a bunch of friends come in and like everyone's 2241 01:23:09,585 --> 01:23:12,014 processing the pig and everyone's gonna take something to go home with. 2242 01:23:12,014 --> 01:23:13,065 It's kinda like Filipino culture. 2243 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:14,700 Yeah, well, like, 2244 01:23:15,210 --> 01:23:15,615 or a lot of 2245 01:23:15,615 --> 01:23:17,910 cultures, like a lot of cultures, like a long time ago that we all 2246 01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:19,169 kind of forgot and don't do anymore. 2247 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:23,040 I just remember the, um, the time I got a phone call from a fellow 2248 01:23:23,460 --> 01:23:26,849 years and years ago, oh, hey, I want to take the firearm safety course. 2249 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,650 Okay, yeah, no, you're in luck. 2250 01:23:28,650 --> 01:23:29,790 We got what happened this weekend. 2251 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:30,540 Excellent. 2252 01:23:30,570 --> 01:23:33,269 'cause I want, I need a gun for the next weekend. 2253 01:23:34,410 --> 01:23:35,700 Well, it doesn't happen that fast. 2254 01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:38,610 We're in Canada, mandatory minimum 20 day waiting period and all the 2255 01:23:38,610 --> 01:23:43,500 rest and okay, hangs up, calls back, I've got it figured out. 2256 01:23:43,860 --> 01:23:46,740 I'm gonna take the course, I'll take a number of my friends with me. 2257 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,030 They'll take the course. 2258 01:23:48,030 --> 01:23:49,440 So we'll fill up a whole class. 2259 01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:50,879 You'll see what I'm all about. 2260 01:23:50,879 --> 01:23:52,740 You'll see that I hang out with cool people. 2261 01:23:53,250 --> 01:23:54,030 I'm a good guy. 2262 01:23:54,059 --> 01:23:56,790 And so when I finish a course, he just loaned me one of your ends. 2263 01:23:57,330 --> 01:23:59,160 I'm like, okay, what's going on here? 2264 01:23:59,219 --> 01:24:01,080 He says, well, my brother's coming in town. 2265 01:24:01,139 --> 01:24:03,599 I'm like, okay, this is not shaping up good. 2266 01:24:03,690 --> 01:24:04,019 Oh my God. 2267 01:24:04,290 --> 01:24:09,719 He says, um, we, um, we got this little farm that we started up and we're getting 2268 01:24:09,719 --> 01:24:12,240 these animals from the auction house. 2269 01:24:13,514 --> 01:24:15,705 We've always got goats and we can take care of 'em ourself, 2270 01:24:15,705 --> 01:24:17,325 but we've got cows now, right? 2271 01:24:17,355 --> 01:24:18,644 And okay, sure. 2272 01:24:19,545 --> 01:24:22,394 Well can you come and can you shoot the cows for us? 2273 01:24:23,745 --> 01:24:28,545 I'd never shot a cow before, but I had an idea, like I, I had a skull up at the 2274 01:24:28,545 --> 01:24:32,804 cabin and had a little 22 bullet hole in it, and I kind of knew where to shoot. 2275 01:24:32,804 --> 01:24:38,894 And so anyways, I show up at this guy's place in a bit more of a built up area 2276 01:24:38,894 --> 01:24:44,445 than I was expecting, and I had a 22 rifle and I figured I would use the rifle. 2277 01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:47,175 On the, uh, the cow's head. 2278 01:24:47,175 --> 01:24:48,675 It was lawful to discharge. 2279 01:24:48,675 --> 01:24:51,105 It was lawful to do all, all the rest. 2280 01:24:51,585 --> 01:24:55,065 But these cows, like the cows, most people see, they got their, their 2281 01:24:55,065 --> 01:24:58,215 horns have been cut off and they put lie on it and it burns 'em. 2282 01:24:58,215 --> 01:24:59,415 So they're easier to handle. 2283 01:24:59,415 --> 01:25:00,255 They're not gonna hurt you. 2284 01:25:01,335 --> 01:25:02,565 These cows had horns. 2285 01:25:03,795 --> 01:25:05,115 I show up with a rifle. 2286 01:25:05,295 --> 01:25:09,075 I'm in the parking lot, 50 Filipino guys running around. 2287 01:25:09,615 --> 01:25:11,835 I'm six foot 6, 250 pounds. 2288 01:25:11,835 --> 01:25:12,765 Everyone's running around. 2289 01:25:12,765 --> 01:25:16,065 They already slaughtered a goat and they're cooking it up. 2290 01:25:16,095 --> 01:25:19,275 I thought they were burning the hair off, but they had a big tiger torch, a roofing 2291 01:25:19,275 --> 01:25:20,655 torch, and they're cooking it right there. 2292 01:25:20,655 --> 01:25:24,620 And this poured black crepitus, God. 2293 01:25:25,545 --> 01:25:26,625 Goats on the ground. 2294 01:25:27,135 --> 01:25:29,865 I said, well, let's bring, I thought we'd have like ropes or something 2295 01:25:29,865 --> 01:25:33,675 and we could just walk up, nah, these cows are running after them and 2296 01:25:33,675 --> 01:25:36,315 they're throwing their head around. 2297 01:25:36,315 --> 01:25:39,705 So anyways, asked me to put down the cows. 2298 01:25:39,975 --> 01:25:42,615 I figured out where to shoot because a skull is very different 2299 01:25:42,615 --> 01:25:46,245 from a live animals skull and trying to put the bullet placement. 2300 01:25:46,245 --> 01:25:49,845 But, uh, eventually we, uh, got both of them down. 2301 01:25:49,845 --> 01:25:53,445 Second one went down immediately, but they'd come over and they'd 2302 01:25:53,565 --> 01:25:54,615 immediately bleed it out. 2303 01:25:54,615 --> 01:25:58,035 But, and they catch all of that blood inside a, uh, big metal bowl. 2304 01:25:58,035 --> 01:26:01,335 And they say, well, we boil it up in a little curdle and then we eat it. 2305 01:26:01,335 --> 01:26:01,720 And it's like, chocolate. 2306 01:26:02,055 --> 01:26:02,625 You want some? 2307 01:26:02,625 --> 01:26:04,845 And they, they use every little part of the animal. 2308 01:26:04,845 --> 01:26:05,360 And I was, it's 2309 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:09,285 not like it looks like chocolate pudding maybe, but I wouldn't call it chocolate. 2310 01:26:09,285 --> 01:26:09,345 P 2311 01:26:09,375 --> 01:26:10,215 Oh, that's what they said. 2312 01:26:10,215 --> 01:26:11,055 They said it's like chocolate. 2313 01:26:11,055 --> 01:26:11,445 You want some? 2314 01:26:11,445 --> 01:26:12,525 I said, no. 2315 01:26:12,555 --> 01:26:14,775 And in hindsight, I probably should have said yes. 2316 01:26:14,985 --> 01:26:15,675 I wouldn't mind. 2317 01:26:15,675 --> 01:26:15,915 Right? 2318 01:26:15,915 --> 01:26:16,065 Yeah. 2319 01:26:16,485 --> 01:26:19,665 Um, just for the adventure of it to see what it's about. 2320 01:26:19,755 --> 01:26:20,595 You love blood pudding? 2321 01:26:21,195 --> 01:26:22,185 I do love blood pudding. 2322 01:26:22,275 --> 01:26:22,545 Yeah. 2323 01:26:23,565 --> 01:26:25,395 Yeah, there's something people might not know about you. 2324 01:26:26,385 --> 01:26:27,675 Your love for blood pudding. 2325 01:26:28,035 --> 01:26:28,755 I do love it. 2326 01:26:29,220 --> 01:26:29,540 I do. 2327 01:26:30,285 --> 01:26:32,020 I It's Scottish in me, I think. 2328 01:26:32,205 --> 01:26:32,685 I think so. 2329 01:26:32,895 --> 01:26:34,965 Is there anything we should be talking about before we wrap up here? 2330 01:26:34,965 --> 01:26:37,695 Because I can feel the, uh, the hot sauce affecting my brain. 2331 01:26:37,785 --> 01:26:38,175 Yeah. 2332 01:26:38,235 --> 01:26:41,595 No, I feel like I'm in a bit of a zombie-like state right now. 2333 01:26:41,895 --> 01:26:44,655 Um, I dunno. 2334 01:26:44,805 --> 01:26:49,005 Um, give, give it, give The Wild Kitchen podcast. 2335 01:26:49,005 --> 01:26:51,405 Uh, a listen, uh, let me know what you think. 2336 01:26:51,465 --> 01:26:53,205 Um, yeah. 2337 01:26:53,730 --> 01:26:55,500 I dunno, I don't know what else to say. 2338 01:26:55,500 --> 01:26:55,620 This. 2339 01:26:55,620 --> 01:26:57,059 Well, you're run extra promotions for it too. 2340 01:26:57,059 --> 01:27:01,320 So, season one, these people are authors and so if people wanna follow 2341 01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,490 along on social media, they have a chance to win the author's book. 2342 01:27:05,550 --> 01:27:05,730 Yep. 2343 01:27:05,790 --> 01:27:10,920 And all I gotta do is Spotify, you can do a star rating and 2344 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,150 you can rate the podcast. 2345 01:27:12,210 --> 01:27:12,300 Yep. 2346 01:27:12,300 --> 01:27:15,300 Preferably five stars, but hey, we're not saying what you got rated. 2347 01:27:15,509 --> 01:27:15,719 Yep. 2348 01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:19,889 Um, apple, you can do a star rating and a review. 2349 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:20,070 Yep. 2350 01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:25,080 And each one of those things will enter somebody in for a chance to win and 2351 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:29,429 they can just take a screenshot and send it on in to podcast@silvercourt.ca. 2352 01:27:29,700 --> 01:27:29,969 Yep. 2353 01:27:30,090 --> 01:27:32,969 Or they can DM the, uh, Instagram account if they want to. 2354 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:33,660 That's easy. 2355 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:34,259 Yeah. 2356 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:39,210 And, uh, it's all part of just getting the knowledge and the cookbooks 2357 01:27:39,210 --> 01:27:43,380 and other people's hands spreading the word of what you enjoy and what 2358 01:27:43,380 --> 01:27:45,570 the authors are putting out there. 2359 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:51,120 And, you know, it's, uh, it, I think it's a pretty fun endeavor and I'm really, 2360 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,099 really excited to see where it takes us. 2361 01:27:53,460 --> 01:27:53,730 Yeah. 2362 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:54,300 Yeah. 2363 01:27:54,389 --> 01:27:56,955 I mean, hopefully Ireland or, I dunno. 2364 01:27:56,985 --> 01:27:58,235 Well, I think there's 2365 01:27:58,235 --> 01:27:58,915 a, I'd love to travel with it. 2366 01:27:58,995 --> 01:27:59,474 I think it'd be fun. 2367 01:27:59,700 --> 01:28:01,349 I think there's a couple things coming up, but 2368 01:28:01,620 --> 01:28:01,680 yeah, 2369 01:28:01,740 --> 01:28:03,870 I don't like to put the cart before the horse so people will 2370 01:28:03,870 --> 01:28:05,340 have to follow along and watch. 2371 01:28:05,340 --> 01:28:05,430 Yep. 2372 01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:05,700 Definitely. 2373 01:28:07,170 --> 01:28:07,860 Thanks so much, Dan. 2374 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:08,490 Yeah, thank you.