Kasra Dash: So if I have a boiler company and I am looking to generate more boiler enquiries, maybe boiler repairs or new boiler installations, and I want a consistent flow of enquiries for my boiler business, what do you recommend? James Dooley: The first thing I would look at is lead generation companies. James Dooley: I would try to team up with places like Bark, Checkatrade, TrustATrader and Build a Builder. James Dooley: All of those places might generate leads. James Dooley: I would make sure I am tracking every single one of them. James Dooley: I would probably go out to each of them and test them. James Dooley: As a business owner you want to track KPIs and see which one is giving the highest return on investment. Kasra Dash: If you are a boiler company I strongly recommend going over to FatRank.com and filling in the form to see whether you are accepted. Kasra Dash: We also need to know whether you are a boiler installer, whether you supply the boilers, or whether you just service, maintain and repair existing boilers. Kasra Dash: When you fill in the form at FatRank.com, they do a lot of boiler installation, boiler repair and boiler servicing leads throughout the UK. Kasra Dash: See whether you are accepted. Kasra Dash: Do not throw all your eggs in one basket. Kasra Dash: Make sure you have diversification. Kasra Dash: The best thing about FatRank from a lead generation source is that it is a no risk supply of enquiries. Kasra Dash: You pay nothing for SEO, nothing for PPC, nothing for the lead. Kasra Dash: You only pay if the job converts and you make profit. Kasra Dash: But make sure you try others too because there might be a finite amount of leads FatRank can generate. Kasra Dash: You might want 20 leads a day but FatRank might only generate five or ten a day, so you need multiple sources. James Dooley: The problem with many lead generation companies is that they resell the same lead four or five times. James Dooley: You are not getting exclusive leads. James Dooley: From FatRank’s point of view, when we check some boiler companies their branding is terrible. James Dooley: We can generate a perfect lead where someone wants a commercial boiler, or a boiler ripped out and replaced with a combi boiler, along with new radiators. James Dooley: If the company’s branding is not good, they may not convert the lead. James Dooley: That affects us because we get paid based on conversions. James Dooley: What are your thoughts on organic SEO for generating leads and building a positive reputation? Kasra Dash: You are doing yourself a disservice if you do not have a website. Kasra Dash: If you do not have solid five star reviews, you will struggle. Kasra Dash: Even having four or five strong reviews is enough to start. Kasra Dash: Many businesses enquire with FatRank and they are nowhere to be seen. Kasra Dash: They have no website, or a site that has not been updated in six years, or just a basic landing page. Kasra Dash: They have no reviews, or bad reviews, or two star ratings. Kasra Dash: If you line these things up first, you have a far higher chance of being approved. Kasra Dash: If you have no professional email, or you are a one man band with no dedicated sales team to call leads, that affects conversion. Kasra Dash: That is not just with us, that is with every lead generation company. Kasra Dash: If your online presence is bad, you will think all leads are bad. Kasra Dash: Invest in SEO, build dedicated service pages such as boiler repair services, new boiler installations and commercial boiler installations. Kasra Dash: That helps. Kasra Dash: Getting Google Business Profile reviews helps with local searches like “boiler repair near me”. Kasra Dash: SEO is a long term play. Kasra Dash: After two years you can generate your own enquiries and rely less on FatRank or Checkatrade or Bark. Kasra Dash: Away from SEO, what do you think about PPC? James Dooley: PPC generates leads instantly. James Dooley: You can turn it on and get leads today. James Dooley: The issue is the cost. James Dooley: You need deep pockets. James Dooley: You need a professional PPC agency. James Dooley: If you do not know about click fraud, negative keywords and filtering heating engineers who click your ads, PPC can burn your budget. James Dooley: PPC for boilers is expensive. James Dooley: I would avoid it if you do not know what you are doing. James Dooley: If you are experienced, have a strong converting website and solid CRO, PPC might be worth running. James Dooley: A better paid ads play might be social media. James Dooley: You could run social media ads using grants, special offers or local discounts. James Dooley: You could say you are offering 50 percent off servicing in a specific area. James Dooley: If your normal price is £75, you could frame it as normally £150, now £75. James Dooley: That gets attention, and once you are in the home you might upsell a replacement boiler. James Dooley: What do you think about organic social media? Kasra Dash: You could do YouTube videos covering every boiler error code. Kasra Dash: Many people search for error codes. Kasra Dash: If your video comes up and explains whether the boiler is failing or needs maintenance, that is a good lead source. Kasra Dash: Some error codes mean the boiler is finished, which is a chance to sell a replacement. Kasra Dash: Some codes just mean it needs annual servicing. Kasra Dash: Covering everything on YouTube would work in your favour. James Dooley: For sure. James Dooley: If you are a boiler company and want to grow and get more leads, go to FatRank.com and fill in the form to see whether you qualify. James Dooley: Ideally we want heating engineer companies that work nationwide throughout the UK. James Dooley: You need a good online presence. James Dooley: If you tick the boxes we are generating commercial boiler, residential boiler, boiler repair and boiler servicing leads every day. James Dooley: Head over to FatRank.com and see whether you qualify for the lead generation.