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Maarten!

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Hoi

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Lisa.

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Alles

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goed?

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Je

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klinkt

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een

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beetje

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opgewonden.

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Ja,

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ik

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heb

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net

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de

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samenvatting

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de

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wedstrijd

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van

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Feyenoord

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gekeken.

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Man,

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wat

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een

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spanning!

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Ik

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heb

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de

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hele

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tijd

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op

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puntje

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van

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mijn

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stoel

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gezeten.

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Echt,

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mijn

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hart

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ging

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tekeer.

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Haha,

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ja,

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dat

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kan

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ik

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me

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voorstellen.

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heb

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de

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uitslag

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gezien.

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Een

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mooie

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overwinning

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voor

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jullie,

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hè?

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Zeker

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weten!

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Dat

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brengt

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me

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trouwens

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een

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idee.

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Sport!

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Hoe

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zit

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dat

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eigenlijk

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bij

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jou?

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Nou

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ja,

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ik

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ben

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niet

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zo'n

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fanatieke

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toeschouwer

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jij.

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vind

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leuker

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zelf

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iets

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doen,

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hoewel

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meestal

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bij

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rondje

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hardlopen

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blijft.

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echt?

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Ik

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vind

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die

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hele

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sfeer

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stadion,

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of

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zelfs

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gewoon

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kroeg

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met

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andere

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supporters,

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juist

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geweldig.

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Iedereen

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die

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samen

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voor

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één

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team

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juicht.

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heb

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met

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hardlopen

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niet.

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Nee,

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dat

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waar.

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Maar

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vind

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rust

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juist

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fijn.

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Vooral

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schaatsen

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winter.

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Als

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natuurijs

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ligt,

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ben

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eerste

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die

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zijn

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schaatsen

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pakt

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tocht

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maken.

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wacht,

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schaatsen!

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Ja,

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dat

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wel

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echt

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typisch

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Nederlands.

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De

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hele

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Elfstedentocht-koorts,

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terwijl

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die

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jaren

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niet

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doorgegaan.

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precies.

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Maar

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zelfs

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geen

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Elfstedentocht

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is,

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hele

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zodra

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kan.

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Het

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soort

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nationale

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hobby

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geworden.

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vind

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doodeng.

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wel

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eens

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geprobeerd,

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maar

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bang

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vallen

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blessure

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lopen.

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één

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keer

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flink

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onderuit

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gegaan,

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daarna

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wel

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klaar

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mee.

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Ach,

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hoort

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beetje

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bij.

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Oefening

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baart

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kunst.

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Hoewel

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moet

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toegeven

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soms

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best

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verraderlijk

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zijn,

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vooral

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scheuren

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zitten.

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dan

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met

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competitie?

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Ben

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dan

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gedreven

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winnen

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anderen?

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Niet

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echt.

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Bij

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schaatsen

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gaat

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voor

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mij

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meer

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prestatie

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voor

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mezelf,

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afstand.

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Bij

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voetbal

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lijkt

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alleen

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maar

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gaan

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winnen

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tegenstander.

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Ja,

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dat

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hele

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punt!

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De

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spanning,

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de

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strijd!

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Het

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gevoel

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een

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overwinning

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onbeschrijfelijk.

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En

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ja,

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verlies

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vreselijk,

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maar

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dat

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maakt

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volgende

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winst

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weer

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mooier.

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mentaliteit

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echte

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supporter,

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denk

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ik.

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bij

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doei!