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Hello everyone and welcome to another
episode of Bikinis After Babies.

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Thank you so much for joining us.

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We have another fantastic episode today
with an amazing guest.

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But first, let me introduce myself.

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My name is Mandi Roshan and I am here with
your other stunning co -host.

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Hey everyone, thank you so much for tuning
in today.

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I'm Gillian Hughes and I'm really excited
that you've joined us for another episode.

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We have a very special guest today.

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I've been so excited to bring her on.

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I would like to welcome Janine Herrera.

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Janine is an IFBB Bikini Pro, a mother of
three girls, a board certified nurse

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practitioner, and online health and
wellness coach with Team Alpha Aesthetics.

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Janine has been competing for almost four
years and earned her IFBB Pro card in 2021

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at North Americans.

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She is a favorite on the IFBB circuit with
numerous pro wins under her belt.

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And she traveled all the way to Romania in
2023 to the Masters Bikini Olympia, where

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she took home second place.

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I am so excited.

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to have her on the show today.

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Welcome to Vickini's After Babies, Janine
Herrera.

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Yay!

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Mandy.

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Hi.

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Hi, thank you so much for coming on today.

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I'm really, really excited and several of
our listeners have requested that we bring

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you on and pick your brain and you know,
I'm not alone in saying that.

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I'm just in awe of all that you do and so
today I'm really looking forward to

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learning like just how you pull it off
because you're so, so busy.

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But I would like to kind of get started
just learning how you began your journey

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competing.

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So I began my journey, I've said this many
times before, post divorce, but also right

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before COVID, right?

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Or during COVID, rather.

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I was an ICU nurse during COVID and I had,
it's like one thing flowed right into the,

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flowed right into the other, right?

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Divorce ended, COVID started.

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And it was kind of like this angst of
like, knowing that I hadn't processed the

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emotions yet, but now not having the
ability to because I,

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was now on the front lines is something
the world had never seen.

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And just kind of to save my own self and
my own mental health, found the gym, you

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know, a small gym that was open here in
Miami and started working out.

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The owner became my coach.

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And at first it was just more or less
workout to look the part.

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And I wasn't sure that I had the
confidence to do it.

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And I think he got a little bit annoyed
because it was like,

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you should do this, you know what I mean?

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And then eventually him daring me and that
led to hopping into my first show, you

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know?

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So it was a coping mechanism that turned
out probably to be honestly, and I don't

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say this in a cliche way, the best thing
that ever happened to me, you know?

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yeah, that's amazing.

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for working through that.

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I can't, I can't imagine.

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Like I just can't imagine being in a
hospital, let alone being like on the

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front lines and the ICU.

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Thank you so much for doing that.

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My pleasure, my pleasure.

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Let's hope we never go through that again.

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Right.

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But it was, it was, I think, I think it
also brought about different things in

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different people, right?

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Because I think after that episode, it
being the worst thing we've probably ever

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gone through, a lot of people started to
understand human connection and the value

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of it.

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Right.

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And we probably hugged people close to us
a little tighter because all of a sudden

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we went from

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you could be outside, you could be
sociable to now if you touch somebody you

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might die.

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At one point it was really that scary.

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So as bad as it was, it also gave a lot of
people a sense of purpose, I think, and

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allowed a lot of people to put more value
into certain things, being with their

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families, being with their loved ones, the
value of connection as opposed to just...

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you know, always on social media or
something, so.

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like it helped us put an emphasis more on
our health, like as individuals, you know,

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we started seeing how, you know, if we
live life a certain way, how much sicker

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we possibly could be in a in a situation
that is so unprecedented, and we don't and

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we're scared, and we don't know how to do
it, like how to handle or what's going to

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happen to us.

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And it makes us kind of think like, okay,
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could possibly help me, you know, even the
minor things that makes you start thinking

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those.

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Well, I think people also use that as a
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history, right?

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one family member really debilitated by
it, but a distant family member not.

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And it's just like, well, what was the
difference?

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And people started learning about
comorbidities that ran in their family

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that they had never even thought of
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Oh yeah, you know, my mom had diabetes and
now those things came into question.

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Now those things were important pieces of
information that prior everybody was just

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like, yeah, I think that's in my family
history or my dad had that or now it

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became so important.

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And I think it's driven the way people
handle their health in a different

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direction now, right?

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family saying, oh yeah, my father had
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Like they actually know their family
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Whereas I can remember prior to COVID,
people coming in the hospital and you're

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doing their assessment any prior this in
your history and they're like, I don't

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know.

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I don't think so.

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You know what I mean?

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So it did open up a lot of conversations
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we interact as human beings, the way we
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health and how important that is.

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So out of...

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something horrible, there have been good
things to come out of it, you know?

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Absolutely, I think it's interesting
because there is definitely like sort of

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like two groups of people.

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There's people who it really set them back
and I hear all the time and I'm sure you

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do as well as a coach like, oh everything
was going well until the pandemic hit and

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then I gained a bunch of weight, I lost my
routine and then you hear this other group

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of people that are like, that was like the
thing like I decided to commit to my

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health and really prioritize making better
choices and whatnot and for you it led to

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you know a journey to the stage.

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So tell me what it was like because

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Let me back up a little bit on that
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You know, a lot of times people get
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that looks fun.

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I saw this girl on Instagram and she
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But I think it's super challenging from a
mindset perspective to begin this journey

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after children having a career, you know,
competing in the masters categories

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because it's sort of like, oh, like,
should I have started by now?

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So what was that like for you?

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And did that ever impact?

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You know, did you have feelings of self
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So it's funny, initially for my first
competition, there was none of that,

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There was no, the self doubt was more or
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I wasn't concerned about my age.

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I wasn't concerned about anything else.

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Not even the other competitors.

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I think because I was so green, right?

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You're so green, you're just giddy to be
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But once I went through the, my first
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I mean, I look back at my posing from my
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I have to post that at some point.

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But you realize how carefree you are and
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little ballerina.

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Not a care in the world.

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I think reality set in after my first
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I barely knew anything about the sport and
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well and then the head judge, Tim Gardner,
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so encouraging that I continue, then it
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But then hearing his accolades, hearing
who he was, you know, like, it was like,

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okay, so maybe if he's saying I should
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research.

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And then I started realizing how young
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Prior to that, it seemed like it was a
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my coach's wife at the time who's in
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But then I started realizing there are a
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not so much.

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And my second competition I did, I can
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Actually, if you, if I post pictures,
you'll see in a lot of my pictures or

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videos, I was doing this.

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because by the time I did that second
competition, I was aware that the majority

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of women in the sport were much younger,
that there was a master's division, that a

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lot of the people I'm going up against
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They don't have the schedule I have.

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So it's funny because when I was making
those sacrifices initially and I wasn't

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aware of those things, it wasn't a lot of
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Happy Go Lucky and working towards this
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And then all of a sudden it's like
somebody comes in your ear and says, yeah,

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You're starting off with kids and you're a
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then the pressure sets in.

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So it was from about my second competition
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per se.

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If I'm going to do this, I am going to go.

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all the way, like I'm not going to,
because then it really made me realize,

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okay, if I'm gonna commit to this, I need
to do it in a structured way that I

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satisfy my goal and I don't take anything
away from my kids and I'm still able to

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balance everything, you know?

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like that's the best decision we make as
athletes and moms.

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Like when we make that decision that not
only do we wanna go all the way, but we

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have to balance and we want to balance how
can we be the best mom and the best

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athlete and not sacrifice either one.

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Rather it's waking up early, prepping more
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dedicated, being more disciplined.

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But in that sense, you're gonna be the
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Like, I couldn't agree with you more.

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Yeah, from early on I set boundaries.

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I remember, you know, once I switched
coaches, one of the things that was

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important to me to share with my second
coach was I told her, I'm not going to

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compete when on the weekends I have my
kids.

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So obviously I'm divorced and we have a
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And every other weekend is when I would
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I would absolutely not compete when I have
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That was like my golden rule.

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And it's funny because there's so many
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who are married and moms who are single,
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And I think there's a certain amount of
strength to be said about being a mom and

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being able to balance this because as
moms, I feel like we are hardwired to put

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ourselves last.

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And I do it constantly, even making
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You know, one of the things I noticed my
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like, why do you always make your plate
last, mom?

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Why do you always see us to eat and then
you come and eat or they'll be eating and

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I'm at the, I'm physically sitting with
them, but I'm not eating because I'm

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finding out how it was school and how was
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And then it's my, my oldest is always
like, why do you do that?

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Why do you put yourself last?

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Or I'll stand in the kitchen eating, you
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their stuff in the sink because I want to
go do bedtime, you know?

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So it's as women, we are so hardwired to
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after our spouses or significant others or
our kids that for a woman to be in this

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sport and really like balancing it all, I
mean, kudos, kudos to them, you know?

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true.

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it's true.

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I mean, and fitting and posing.

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Yes, yeah, the guilt is a big one too, but
you know, I think.

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is why I get up at 4 a .m.

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and so I don't bother anybody.

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Yeah, the guilt will drive you to do
certain things where you're just like,

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wow, you know, am I really, what other
thing could I be doing for them instead of

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me doing this for me?

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You know?

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That's why I choose to go to the gym.

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People are like, why do you go in the
middle of the day?

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Because kids are in school in the middle
of the day and I won't feel guilty, right?

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But you asked me to go in the evening and
it's like...

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It's a sense of guilt unless it's like a
night where I don't have them then it's

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like, okay, but I try as much as possible
to balance things so that it can never be

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said, well, mom was doing this so she
wasn't around for us to do, you know?

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I started competing when my son was four,
four or five.

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And that was my number, like you said,
golden rule, is I never wanted to

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sacrifice, I love cooking, so I never
wanted to sacrifice cooking his food or

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making his meals or taking him to school,
things like that, and to this day, I do

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exactly what you said.

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I cook his breakfast, lunch, dinner.

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play everything, same with my spouse, like
I do all of it and like I never, I never

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will let it interrupt like my personal
goals but I'll also never sacrifice from

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them because I enjoy doing that and they
appreciate me doing that as well.

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And I think it's a matter of perspective,
right?

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Remembering that these relationships,
these, these things that you're nurturing

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in this side of your life are, have more
longevity than what you're doing in this

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sport.

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So, so it's a driving factor, right?

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Because on one side, you're going to work
hard because you don't have a long time in

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the sport.

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But at the same time, you're going to
remember that your priority is nurturing

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what's over here, because that is your
life, not just a sport, right?

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So.

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Yeah, I think you have to like lead with
the...

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the belief in yourself that you can do it
and you just have to stay really strong

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because it will be hard.

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But I also think too, like, you know,
having, and you've, you know, now been in

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the sport a long time, you know, my kids
don't know anything else.

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Like they, they just, they see me eating
chicken and the food scale and like all

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these things and the verbiage is, I think
what I've learned is the most important is

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how I talk about it.

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Cause I don't want them to hear words like
dieting or lose weight or fat loss, or I

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can't have that.

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Like I really just, you know, I want it to
be positive.

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so that they see, you know, they see me
working hard and they know when I'm

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packing up my suitcase and getting on the
plane, like I'm gonna go and get a trophy

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and like they think it's like really cool.

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They just don't know anything, anything
different.

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So I think that's a big piece of it too is
just, I think accepting that it's going to

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be hard and making those sacrifices, but
juggling and women do it all the time.

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I think you just have to get to that place
in your head, like, you know, okay, I'm

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doing enough and you know, and not let
that guilt eat away at you for sure.

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yeah, I love my middle daughter loves to
tell me, look at my muscles.

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She's so cute because she's very much into
staying active now, right?

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And it's funny, because sometimes when I
listen to the conversations between my two

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oldest, it surprises me.

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Like I think the other day, my oldest said
something to my middle, like, oh, you're

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like working out too much or something.

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And my middle daughter goes, because I
don't want to get diabetes later on, Anya.

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I don't want to be up.

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part of society that is obese.

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And I'm just like, where are you hearing
this from?

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And then there's the other side of it.

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Like, I love, honestly, I say this all the
time and I mean it, I love the camaraderie

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of the women in this sport.

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I think the camaraderie, I can't speak to
any other division, but among the bikini

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women, especially the bikini masters
athletes, we are so loving and we are so

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sweet and supportive and empowering of
each other.

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And I love -

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that my girls get to see that dynamic, you
know?

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I think personally it's made them a lot
softer and sweeter, you know?

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I've seen, you know, my daughters with
their friends and they're just like, I'll

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share that with you.

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I'll help you.

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You could totally do that.

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I could totally see you doing that.

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And just some of the verbiage they use,
I'm like, yeah, that's me talking to

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Ashlyn or Ashlyn.

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I mean, I can hear it already, you know?

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But, no, I love it.

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Yeah.

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and I love to see them that way because
they are in team sports and stuff so it's

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just like to hear them like, yeah Kayla
you could do this!

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Like you just, it's so sweet, you know
what I mean?

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So I love it.

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I love being in this sport because there's
so much female empowerment.

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Oh, totally.

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100%.

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I think it's interesting you said that
about the verbiage.

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My daughter had like a just like, you
know, some kids get that little injury in

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the back of their heel when they're
growing and it made tumbling like really

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difficult for her.

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And she had a little competition coming up
and I was like, OK, we're going to ice it

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like you're going to be OK.

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You got this.

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And she's like, I can do anything for two
and a half minutes.

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And I remember like, you know, some points
in my prep, like I can do anything for 12

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weeks.

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That's fine.

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I only got four more weeks, you know, like
it's fine.

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So I think it's it's neat that they're
always listening, right?

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Like they're picking.

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-hmm.

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the way we talk about what we're doing or
our friendships and interactions.

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And overall, I think for me, this sport
and this lifestyle has made me a more

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positive person, like a more present
mother, because I'm healthier and I'm more

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confident when I'm taking care of myself.

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So I think that's an important thing for
people from the outside looking in, or a

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lot of our listeners are maybe
contemplating competing and haven't

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embarked on it yet, but just kind of
knowing that there's so many positives.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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There's a lot of positives in this sport
that bleed into other areas of your life.

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Because as you go through the prep
process, I think prep is such a defining

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time, right?

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Because your body is transforming, your
mind has to adapt to the new images it's

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constantly seeing of your body as your
body changes.

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There's that awe and awareness of like,
wow, my body is actually capable of this,

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of these changes, of looking like this.

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And then there's that mental strength,
right?

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Where you have to like buckle down
mentally and know that you can do this and

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remind yourself why you're in it.

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Um, and block out all the self doubt or
self sabotage that might come in.

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Just that entire process.

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Once you've gotten through it, you're
like, I'm one bad mama.

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You know, the confidence.

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I did this, you know?

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So it's like.

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I think once you've had that, then you
approach other things in your life

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differently, whether it's your career or
other situations that might come into your

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life.

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You're just like, I had the mental
fortitude to go through that.

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Oh baby, I could figure this out.

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You know what I mean?

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So I've always been one of those women.

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Like my catchphrase is, I don't know how
I'm gonna do it, but I'm gonna get it

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done.

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You know?

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So.

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Yeah.

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I love the characteristics that it builds
in people that enter the sport.

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And you juggle not only your career as a
professional athlete, but working in

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healthcare and then you are also a coach.

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So kind of starting with healthcare
because a lot of our listeners are also in

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that line of work.

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How do you juggle those demands and the
stressors with everything you have going

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on?

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Well, I'll tell you, let me backtrack
because now that I'm a nurse practitioner,

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I'm working with someone we're getting an
actual brick and mortar clinic set up.

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So of course now I get to more dictate my
schedule, right?

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Won't be able to till the summer, but
we're working on that.

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And it's a lot different.

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I'm now the practitioner as opposed to the
nurse taking the orders, but being in

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healthcare throughout pretty much most of
my bodybuilding career, being a nurse,

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I...

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was blessed to have a group of colleagues
who, even though they may not have

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understood my desire to be a bodybuilder
or the process, they respected and

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supported and encouraged my passion for
it, right?

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And so what does that mean?

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12 hour shifts, I would have nurses come
in by my desk, because they knew I ate

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every three to four hours going, hey,
Janine, you may wash your patients so you

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can take a break.

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You know what I mean?

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And it's like, cause you have, in ICU you
have two patients, sometimes three

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depending if one is vented, two are not,
but you know, it's, you constantly have to

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be looking over your patient.

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So you have to have somebody cover you if
you're going to even take a break.

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And yes, I learned to eat food in 15
minutes flat or less than, you know, you

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learn to speed eat as a bodybuilder.

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But I was blessed to have a group, like
whenever I did a competition, you would

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hear in huddle, morning huddle.

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As much as I would be in the back trying
to hide, somebody would have said it to

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our manager.

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And so she'd say, and guys, if you're not
doing anything, Janine's in a competition

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this Saturday, make sure to get the link
from her to watch, or if you're going to

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be in Orlando or wherever it is.

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And I'm like in the background, like,
because that's the funny thing is as much

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as I was in the sport and participating in
it, they were, they always were like,

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you're so strange.

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You never come to work and talk about it.

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We always have to ask you.

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And I'm like,

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Yeah, because I'm not a very boastful
person, I'm also a very private person.

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So I would try to keep the world separate,
but people would be like, hey, I saw you,

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I turned into a live stream.

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And I'm like, oh my gosh.

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So I was fortunate in that aspect.

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I had colleagues who were rooting for me,
they would always make sure that I had my

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time to go eat my meals.

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And so the rest of it was just up to me,
prepping and staying on schedule with my

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meals.

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But...

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It can be hard, I'm not gonna lie, because
I remember at one point, you know, I was

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working both night and day shift.

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And that switched from your body, and then
I have to remember, okay, if it was really

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days, I would have this much period of
fasting, so I need to do that at night.

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And it kind of threw my schedule off a
bit.

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I was trying to be helpful in picking up
hours, because we were short after the

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pandemic and stuff like that.

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But I realized early on, I can't complain.

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I'm choosing to extend myself like that,
right?

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Because I know what it was like to work
with teams gone during the pandemic and it

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was just a bare bones team of us.

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And so if I said, yes, I'll stay and work
tonight, I've signed up for that.

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Like, I'm not gonna take that out on
anybody else.

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You know what I mean?

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and it's up to me, I would always tell
myself, well, you signed up for it, so now

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you gotta sleep your four hours and still
make it to the gym.

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You know?

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Yeah, it's.

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so true.

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Like we pick our hard, you know?

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We pick, or we choose, like you said, you
choose to sign up for that shift to help

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out.

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You know it's the best decision for your
team.

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You have the capability to help out.

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Once you get there and you're in the grind
of it and doing it, like, why complain

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about something that you chose to do that
it's good?

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There were mornings I woke up after doing
like shifts like that where I worked a

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day, then went home a little bit, then
came back and worked night shift.

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And I remember like, I remember once I'm
lifting my head up cause I was in my bed

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and I go, I am never doing this again.

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And it was funny cause it reminds me of,
you know, how some people drink and over

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drink and the first time they have a
hangover, they're like, I'm never drinking

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again.

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I don't drink.

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So it's like I did, I think I had done
something like four days back to back, but

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then on the fourth day also did the night
and did like three nights back to back.

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So it was like, my body was just like, you
know what I mean?

454
00:24:35,033 --> 00:24:38,573
But yeah, we pick our hard.

455
00:24:38,573 --> 00:24:39,423
That's the thing.

456
00:24:39,423 --> 00:24:41,343
We choose our hard, you know?

457
00:24:41,343 --> 00:24:46,261
There are certain circumstances you can't
avoid, but.

458
00:24:46,261 --> 00:24:48,939
For the most part, we choose our hard, you
know?

459
00:24:48,939 --> 00:24:53,619
driven too, I think like, and I think you
know for yourself when I'm, okay, I'm

460
00:24:53,619 --> 00:24:57,619
burning the candle at both ends, but I'm
the type of person I just, I wait till the

461
00:24:57,619 --> 00:25:00,639
candle's like errrr before I like really
acknowledge that.

462
00:25:00,639 --> 00:25:04,299
So I think that that's just something that
each athlete has to really gauge kind of

463
00:25:04,299 --> 00:25:04,909
where they're at.

464
00:25:04,909 --> 00:25:08,559
And then also like temperature check on
where everybody's at at home, you know,

465
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:12,369
like there's been certain points and
different preps where I'm like, you know,

466
00:25:12,369 --> 00:25:13,963
I think I really need to.

467
00:25:14,067 --> 00:25:18,447
take something off my plate and it's not
gonna be work because work's you know

468
00:25:18,447 --> 00:25:21,787
number it supports the family but I'm
gonna have to like just take a little

469
00:25:21,787 --> 00:25:25,307
pause from competing it's okay it doesn't
mean I'm gonna stop training but I'm just

470
00:25:25,307 --> 00:25:28,467
I'm not I'm not gonna be traveling to
shows you know throughout this period of

471
00:25:28,467 --> 00:25:32,607
time because my family just needs me and
I'll pick back up but I think it's just

472
00:25:32,607 --> 00:25:35,527
kind of taking things one day at a time
when you're trying to juggle a lot and

473
00:25:35,527 --> 00:25:38,887
like you said that overarching theme of
like I'll figure it out and we're all

474
00:25:38,887 --> 00:25:42,747
fixers as moms like we do just you know we
got a problem okay I'll figure it out you

475
00:25:42,747 --> 00:25:44,021
know and so same thing with

476
00:25:44,021 --> 00:25:46,837
with prepping and juggling everything.

477
00:25:46,837 --> 00:25:48,557
And I think we have to feel okay.

478
00:25:48,557 --> 00:25:53,297
I think we need to like start supporting
women when they say, I have too much on my

479
00:25:53,297 --> 00:25:54,187
plate, right?

480
00:25:54,187 --> 00:25:56,857
And I'm gonna pull back from this and not
shame them.

481
00:25:56,857 --> 00:26:01,917
Because I feel like there's a sense of
guilt or shame sometimes in moms who pull

482
00:26:01,917 --> 00:26:06,037
back or dial back or say, I'm not
competing this year.

483
00:26:06,037 --> 00:26:07,407
There's nothing wrong with that.

484
00:26:07,407 --> 00:26:09,269
That woman is not a shit show.

485
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:14,069
That woman has her stuff together and is
doing what she needs to do in her life

486
00:26:14,069 --> 00:26:14,649
season.

487
00:26:14,649 --> 00:26:20,269
And I've seen so many times where people
pull back because of family or they need

488
00:26:20,269 --> 00:26:22,049
to just take care of things in their life.

489
00:26:22,049 --> 00:26:24,869
And then they're looked at as if they're
some sort of mess.

490
00:26:24,869 --> 00:26:26,509
That's not true.

491
00:26:26,749 --> 00:26:33,829
There shouldn't be a stigma between us
competing and then deciding for a moment,

492
00:26:33,829 --> 00:26:35,405
okay, I'm gonna pull back.

493
00:26:35,573 --> 00:26:39,493
focus on my family, focus on my business,
or focus on something else, or maybe I

494
00:26:39,493 --> 00:26:42,193
just don't want to compete right now, you
know?

495
00:26:42,193 --> 00:26:46,693
But I feel like I've seen so many times,
like on social media, where somebody may

496
00:26:46,693 --> 00:26:52,893
have been competing, and then they took a
break, and then everybody's like, what

497
00:26:52,893 --> 00:26:54,093
happened?

498
00:26:54,313 --> 00:26:55,493
What happened?

499
00:26:55,493 --> 00:26:57,763
You know, it's like, nothing happened.

500
00:26:57,763 --> 00:26:59,833
She's living her best life.

501
00:27:01,113 --> 00:27:04,763
It does.

502
00:27:04,795 --> 00:27:06,785
and your heart has to be fully in it.

503
00:27:06,785 --> 00:27:08,147
I've done and...

504
00:27:08,147 --> 00:27:10,407
cut off preps that my heart was not in it.

505
00:27:10,407 --> 00:27:14,467
I was I was I wasn't giving it my I didn't
have my whole ass and it was half -assing

506
00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:15,407
it.

507
00:27:15,407 --> 00:27:19,407
Um and and you don't get the result unless
you're fully dedicated and committed and

508
00:27:19,407 --> 00:27:23,147
that takes a lot of um just mental
strength and it's not to say that you're

509
00:27:23,147 --> 00:27:26,727
weak if you're taking it off the table
like it's totally it's totally okay and

510
00:27:26,727 --> 00:27:29,329
also the sports not going anywhere and

511
00:27:29,329 --> 00:27:29,879
say the other thing.

512
00:27:29,879 --> 00:27:34,059
It's not, it's not, it's funny because I
was kind of like with that with myself.

513
00:27:34,059 --> 00:27:37,169
I remember when Ashlyn said, okay, you're
going to have a long off season.

514
00:27:37,169 --> 00:27:37,869
And I was like, why?

515
00:27:37,869 --> 00:27:38,649
What happened?

516
00:27:38,649 --> 00:27:41,809
What, what, what, what, what, what are we
doing right now?

517
00:27:41,809 --> 00:27:45,209
And she's like, you did like eight or nine
competitions last year.

518
00:27:45,209 --> 00:27:46,749
And I'm like, yeah, but I feel fine.

519
00:27:46,749 --> 00:27:49,129
She's like, you're taking a long off
season.

520
00:27:49,129 --> 00:27:49,729
Right.

521
00:27:49,729 --> 00:27:51,389
And it's like, yeah, you're right.

522
00:27:51,389 --> 00:27:54,357
I can't like tell people about rest and
recovery when I'm like,

523
00:27:54,357 --> 00:27:56,857
not rested and recovering myself, you
know?

524
00:27:56,857 --> 00:28:00,297
So it's like, it's also fighting that
thing in my head, right?

525
00:28:00,297 --> 00:28:03,617
Because it's like, I'm not used to a long
off season.

526
00:28:03,617 --> 00:28:06,317
So I'm working out and I'm doing
everything.

527
00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:10,167
But then it's like, ah, this kind of feels
weird.

528
00:28:10,167 --> 00:28:12,075
I want to go back to the stage.

529
00:28:12,075 --> 00:28:14,845
sure your social media is like, where are
you at girl?

530
00:28:14,845 --> 00:28:16,435
I didn't see you on that list.

531
00:28:16,435 --> 00:28:17,875
When are you competing again?

532
00:28:17,875 --> 00:28:18,661
Yeah.

533
00:28:18,661 --> 00:28:19,051
soon.

534
00:28:19,051 --> 00:28:24,921
And they're like, oh, you know, but I'm
settling, I've settled into off season.

535
00:28:24,921 --> 00:28:25,801
I'm enjoying it.

536
00:28:25,801 --> 00:28:29,861
And like I said, you know, I have a lot on
my plate with a clinic getting open soon.

537
00:28:29,861 --> 00:28:34,301
And, and so it's just, it's been nice to
be like, okay, well, these other things

538
00:28:34,301 --> 00:28:39,399
have my attention for the while, you know,
and I'll jump back in when it's time.

539
00:28:39,399 --> 00:28:40,387
Yeah.

540
00:28:40,563 --> 00:28:41,383
Exactly.

541
00:28:41,383 --> 00:28:42,253
No, I think that's great.

542
00:28:42,253 --> 00:28:44,883
I think everybody has to know when it's
like, you know, and it's good for our

543
00:28:44,883 --> 00:28:46,023
bodies to take that time.

544
00:28:46,023 --> 00:28:50,443
And as long as you don't feel like in a
rush, because I've also seen where people

545
00:28:50,443 --> 00:28:53,773
did put too much and they pushed way
farther than they should.

546
00:28:53,773 --> 00:28:57,643
And then they end up having to take that
time to do a really long health phase.

547
00:28:57,643 --> 00:28:59,723
So I don't think that's smart either.

548
00:28:59,723 --> 00:29:01,273
Like, you know, we're proof of it.

549
00:29:01,273 --> 00:29:04,843
I'm still going and 44, you know, it's not
going anywhere.

550
00:29:04,843 --> 00:29:09,573
And I see women all the time that are, you
know, crushing it well into their 50s.

551
00:29:09,573 --> 00:29:10,517
We all know that.

552
00:29:10,517 --> 00:29:14,957
that building this physique and this
muscle is anti -aging.

553
00:29:15,137 --> 00:29:17,937
So, if you don't stay in the gym, you'll
be good, right?

554
00:29:18,337 --> 00:29:21,297
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

555
00:29:21,377 --> 00:29:25,737
So tell me about juggling, adding the
coaching element into it as well, because

556
00:29:25,737 --> 00:29:27,657
now you're taking clients and you're
coaching.

557
00:29:27,657 --> 00:29:31,669
Do you coach lifestyle and competitors, or
just one?

558
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:36,109
So I started coaching with my former team
last year in April.

559
00:29:36,229 --> 00:29:42,909
It was something that, it's funny because
the reason why I say this became my life

560
00:29:42,909 --> 00:29:43,649
purpose.

561
00:29:43,649 --> 00:29:49,049
So when this is to share something that
probably nobody knows, when I was going

562
00:29:49,049 --> 00:29:54,629
through my divorce, which was probably the
most life -changing event that I can say

563
00:29:54,629 --> 00:29:58,509
that I went through other than having each
of my kids, right?

564
00:29:58,517 --> 00:30:03,237
I had, I will be honest, a very toxic
divorce, a very traumatic divorce, but I'm

565
00:30:03,237 --> 00:30:07,357
also a very faithful person, faith -filled
person.

566
00:30:07,357 --> 00:30:14,477
And one of the things that I did
throughout my entire divorce was I prayed

567
00:30:14,477 --> 00:30:19,217
every night that God would use that
experience, sorry, I'm like getting

568
00:30:19,217 --> 00:30:25,317
emotional, to help me help other women,
especially single women, right?

569
00:30:25,317 --> 00:30:25,877
If...

570
00:30:25,877 --> 00:30:28,177
if he could give me a purpose for my life.

571
00:30:28,177 --> 00:30:33,497
And I wasn't asking what it should be, but
I was just basically saying, if you could

572
00:30:33,497 --> 00:30:38,417
give purpose to my life, I would like it
to be, to use my life as an example for

573
00:30:38,417 --> 00:30:39,557
other women.

574
00:30:39,557 --> 00:30:44,317
And it's funny because my divorce ended,
went through the pandemic.

575
00:30:44,317 --> 00:30:49,397
The way that I found the gym to me was
very coincidental.

576
00:30:49,397 --> 00:30:51,377
It wasn't, you know what I mean?

577
00:30:51,377 --> 00:30:55,565
So then from the gym doing competitions
and then...

578
00:30:55,669 --> 00:31:00,389
loving it so much, loving the camaraderie
of the women, the support that I felt from

579
00:31:00,389 --> 00:31:06,829
the women, and then realizing this is
something I wanted to do, but I wanted to

580
00:31:06,829 --> 00:31:10,909
help other women find themselves as well.

581
00:31:10,909 --> 00:31:16,689
It didn't necessarily have to be in
competing, but just the way that the gym,

582
00:31:16,709 --> 00:31:21,209
the way that fitness, the way that taking
care of your health could help you

583
00:31:21,209 --> 00:31:23,589
overcome so many other things.

584
00:31:23,589 --> 00:31:24,917
So it kind of like...

585
00:31:24,917 --> 00:31:30,717
evolved into a passion of where I knew
then that I wanted to help other women on

586
00:31:30,717 --> 00:31:31,307
their journeys.

587
00:31:31,307 --> 00:31:34,877
And then I was fortunate enough to become
a coach last year.

588
00:31:34,877 --> 00:31:39,457
And I loved it from, from, from like day
one, you know, I had always helped the

589
00:31:39,457 --> 00:31:43,197
nurses that I worked with, but that's
different when people come to you and you

590
00:31:43,197 --> 00:31:48,357
help them and family and friends to now
like absolute strangers trusting me on

591
00:31:48,357 --> 00:31:51,817
their journey and them loving their
results and, and everything.

592
00:31:51,837 --> 00:31:54,613
And, and now for me, I,

593
00:31:54,613 --> 00:32:00,773
I love to say that I always wanted to be
able to mix my career with something I'm

594
00:32:00,773 --> 00:32:04,013
passionate about, so that it doesn't
feel...

595
00:32:04,013 --> 00:32:09,053
And I certainly think that I have done
that now, that I've been able to do that.

596
00:32:09,153 --> 00:32:16,513
I love helping women, and especially a lot
of my clients happen to be moms.

597
00:32:16,893 --> 00:32:20,553
It just gets me right there.

598
00:32:20,853 --> 00:32:22,389
So that's...

599
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:26,229
For me, that's my life purpose now and
being in this sport and having met so many

600
00:32:26,229 --> 00:32:32,489
women whose hormones are not well taken
care of or they don't understand it or the

601
00:32:32,489 --> 00:32:37,629
importance of it or they just think, well,
I'm perimenopausal so all this stuff is

602
00:32:37,629 --> 00:32:42,869
normal or should happen to me or I'm
postmenopausal so, you know, me not having

603
00:32:42,869 --> 00:32:44,159
a libido, that's norm.

604
00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:48,149
No, we can still be thriving.

605
00:32:50,037 --> 00:32:55,107
just virile like women all the way into
our later years.

606
00:32:55,107 --> 00:32:56,697
You should still have desires.

607
00:32:56,697 --> 00:33:01,287
You should still have that vitality and
youthful feeling.

608
00:33:01,287 --> 00:33:05,057
You don't have to settle for feeling a
certain way.

609
00:33:05,057 --> 00:33:10,177
So now that I'm a practitioner, it's
exciting to me to be able to like now

610
00:33:10,177 --> 00:33:14,467
marry two sides of this that I'm
passionate about.

611
00:33:14,467 --> 00:33:17,107
that's so cool how it came full circle.

612
00:33:17,747 --> 00:33:18,644
Yeah.

613
00:33:18,644 --> 00:33:23,584
Like I got the, like, oh my gosh, like the
amount of women you help like has to be

614
00:33:23,584 --> 00:33:24,344
astronomical.

615
00:33:24,344 --> 00:33:29,064
And the fact that you came through such a
dark time in your life and you utilize

616
00:33:29,064 --> 00:33:29,524
that.

617
00:33:29,524 --> 00:33:33,684
And it's like, you didn't know like your
faith, you didn't know what it would take

618
00:33:33,684 --> 00:33:34,384
you to.

619
00:33:34,384 --> 00:33:35,984
And then it took you to that.

620
00:33:35,984 --> 00:33:41,105
And now you look at everything like that's
absolutely beautiful.

621
00:33:41,105 --> 00:33:45,765
that's, it's funny because it's like, you,
it's one of those things where they say

622
00:33:45,765 --> 00:33:50,765
sometimes when you're going through the
darkness, you can't even, you can't even

623
00:33:50,765 --> 00:33:52,135
picture the light, right?

624
00:33:52,135 --> 00:33:54,945
Or where it's like, you know, sometimes
you're going through something and you're

625
00:33:54,945 --> 00:34:00,625
just like, you know, heavenly father, like
what, what is the purpose for this right

626
00:34:00,625 --> 00:34:01,045
now?

627
00:34:01,045 --> 00:34:07,125
You know, but, and I could have never
imagined that out of something so dark in

628
00:34:07,125 --> 00:34:09,333
my life that that would

629
00:34:09,333 --> 00:34:10,633
be what came from it.

630
00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:11,363
You know what I mean?

631
00:34:11,363 --> 00:34:16,293
Like I said, I walked into a gym,
coincidentally, you know what I mean?

632
00:34:16,293 --> 00:34:21,173
It's like, I walked in, yes, with the
purpose of looking a certain way, but I

633
00:34:21,173 --> 00:34:25,493
didn't know it would lead me down this
journey to meet so many women and be in a

634
00:34:25,493 --> 00:34:31,073
community where I am so passionate about
being encouraging and supporting and

635
00:34:31,073 --> 00:34:34,693
empowering while helping people take care
of their health.

636
00:34:34,693 --> 00:34:36,213
And you know what I mean?

637
00:34:36,213 --> 00:34:37,581
It's just...

638
00:34:38,579 --> 00:34:39,283
Yeah.

639
00:34:39,283 --> 00:34:45,203
That's a cool story to just really, yeah,
thinking about just how one decision, like

640
00:34:45,203 --> 00:34:49,663
you're one decision away from like a
completely different life, you know?

641
00:34:49,663 --> 00:34:52,493
And I tell people that all the time, like,
what if you don't give up?

642
00:34:52,493 --> 00:34:56,323
Like, what will happen if you just keep
going and you just push through this

643
00:34:56,323 --> 00:34:57,673
really crappy time?

644
00:34:57,673 --> 00:35:02,123
Because it is, it always ends up working
out if you really, and I think that comes

645
00:35:02,123 --> 00:35:05,023
with age, you know, kind of seeing on the
other side of things, like everything

646
00:35:05,023 --> 00:35:07,483
really in the end works out the way that
it's supposed to.

647
00:35:07,483 --> 00:35:09,237
But I do think it takes a lot of mental,

648
00:35:09,237 --> 00:35:13,117
strength and faith to believe that that is
so because I think some people really have

649
00:35:13,117 --> 00:35:17,757
a hard time when they're really in the in
the trenches of things really sucking to

650
00:35:17,757 --> 00:35:22,537
believe that it's gonna be okay but I
think also like women like you that share

651
00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:26,777
their stories and inspire motivate other
people give women hope and that's another

652
00:35:26,777 --> 00:35:29,817
huge reason why I'm so happy you're here
today because there's somebody listening

653
00:35:29,817 --> 00:35:33,389
who needed to hear you know what you just
shared so so thank you.

654
00:35:33,389 --> 00:35:38,949
I just recently at Clash met a contestant
who, oh my God, I love her story, Marina

655
00:35:38,949 --> 00:35:39,509
Ross.

656
00:35:39,509 --> 00:35:45,059
She started, you know, her journey way
back and then life interrupted, right?

657
00:35:45,059 --> 00:35:47,909
Life interrupted for many, many years for
her.

658
00:35:47,909 --> 00:35:51,469
And so it's like, now she's living the
dream.

659
00:35:51,469 --> 00:35:53,369
Now she's achieving the goal, right?

660
00:35:53,369 --> 00:36:00,821
She just won the Masters 50 at Clash and
to give her the medal and crown her.

661
00:36:00,821 --> 00:36:04,591
was just, I think we were both there
standing, trying not to be emotional.

662
00:36:04,591 --> 00:36:10,041
If you know me, I get emotional like for
other people, like really quickly, but I

663
00:36:10,041 --> 00:36:13,981
knew she was going to win because she just
has such a stage presence, such poise.

664
00:36:13,981 --> 00:36:15,971
So after I saw pre -judging, I was like,
that's it.

665
00:36:15,971 --> 00:36:17,261
I think she nailed it.

666
00:36:17,261 --> 00:36:22,021
And just to be on stage, like I kept
looking at Jodie so that the water in my

667
00:36:22,021 --> 00:36:26,621
eyes would go away because I knew they
were about to call her as the winner.

668
00:36:26,621 --> 00:36:28,661
And just, I mean, she hugged me and

669
00:36:28,661 --> 00:36:31,581
This was our first time meeting too, and
she just kept saying, oh my gosh, you're

670
00:36:31,581 --> 00:36:32,451
such an inspiration.

671
00:36:32,451 --> 00:36:35,581
And I'm thinking, you are such an
inspiration to me.

672
00:36:35,581 --> 00:36:39,941
Look how many people start this journey
and life happens and they never get back

673
00:36:39,941 --> 00:36:40,341
to it.

674
00:36:40,341 --> 00:36:47,301
But she pursued it and she never lost that
passion for it or sight of the goal as

675
00:36:47,301 --> 00:36:49,231
long as it took her.

676
00:36:49,231 --> 00:36:50,401
You know?

677
00:36:50,481 --> 00:36:51,381
So.

678
00:36:51,381 --> 00:36:55,881
Man, I was just so happy to crown her and
it's just like people like her are like a

679
00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:56,631
dream come true.

680
00:36:56,631 --> 00:36:58,981
Like you're watching them live their
dreams.

681
00:36:58,981 --> 00:37:01,681
Life can interrupt you a million times.

682
00:37:01,681 --> 00:37:05,161
Stay the course, you know?

683
00:37:05,161 --> 00:37:06,671
Stay the course.

684
00:37:07,699 --> 00:37:11,359
So I did have a question to pick your
coach brain.

685
00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:13,899
This is something Mandy and I were talking
about this morning.

686
00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:18,859
So what do you tell your clients when
they're really feeling defeated or feeling

687
00:37:18,859 --> 00:37:23,199
like they want to give up or maybe cutting
corners and really not seeing their full

688
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:23,799
potential?

689
00:37:23,799 --> 00:37:29,499
How do you motivate them to understand the
potential that they could reach or how to

690
00:37:29,499 --> 00:37:31,349
not give up on themselves?

691
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:36,509
So whenever I kind of see a client going
through something in their check -in, I'll

692
00:37:36,509 --> 00:37:38,369
decide to give them a call, right?

693
00:37:38,369 --> 00:37:42,769
It's more of a check -in response call,
but it's me checking in on them.

694
00:37:42,769 --> 00:37:47,849
And I call it like a heart -to -heart call
because it's like, explain to me why

695
00:37:47,849 --> 00:37:51,829
you're not doing the things that you know
you're supposed to be doing, right?

696
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:55,809
I'm not here to babysit you, we're both
adults, but where's this self -sabotage

697
00:37:55,809 --> 00:37:56,589
coming from?

698
00:37:56,589 --> 00:37:57,759
Where's this unworthiness?

699
00:37:57,759 --> 00:37:59,861
Because you're self -sabotaging yourself.

700
00:37:59,861 --> 00:38:01,381
from reaching your full potential.

701
00:38:01,381 --> 00:38:05,021
So that tells me there's something inside
of you that's telling you on repeat that

702
00:38:05,021 --> 00:38:07,181
you're not worthy of achieving this.

703
00:38:07,181 --> 00:38:09,571
So let's get to the root of that, right?

704
00:38:09,571 --> 00:38:11,881
Because you told me you were committed.

705
00:38:12,281 --> 00:38:15,381
If you're committed to something, you're
going to do what it takes.

706
00:38:15,381 --> 00:38:18,091
If you told me I'm interested, that's
different.

707
00:38:18,091 --> 00:38:20,181
Let's talk about your interests because
that's going to waver.

708
00:38:20,181 --> 00:38:21,741
That's going to change with emotions.

709
00:38:21,741 --> 00:38:23,921
You might wake up today, it's sunny, I'm
interested.

710
00:38:23,921 --> 00:38:27,181
Tomorrow it's raining, I'm not, you know?

711
00:38:27,261 --> 00:38:28,853
So, but when you...

712
00:38:28,853 --> 00:38:32,803
came on as an athlete or as a
transformation client and you said to me,

713
00:38:32,803 --> 00:38:35,423
I am committed to transforming my body.

714
00:38:35,423 --> 00:38:39,753
I am committed to getting healthy because
my uncle just passed or whoever just

715
00:38:39,753 --> 00:38:40,713
passed.

716
00:38:41,113 --> 00:38:48,153
You signed a contract with me to hold you
accountable, to reach your potential,

717
00:38:48,873 --> 00:38:49,413
right?

718
00:38:49,413 --> 00:38:52,793
Not just your God given potential, but
your worth.

719
00:38:52,793 --> 00:38:57,363
So you tell me right now, what is making
you self -sabotage?

720
00:38:57,363 --> 00:38:57,813
What?

721
00:38:57,813 --> 00:39:01,473
what's playing on your mind that's letting
you know that you're not worthy of this

722
00:39:01,473 --> 00:39:04,013
because I need to remind you that you are.

723
00:39:04,013 --> 00:39:07,913
You know, and usually then you they start
opening up, right?

724
00:39:07,913 --> 00:39:11,733
Well, I've been binging because the kids
are eating and this and that.

725
00:39:11,733 --> 00:39:13,513
Where's that coming from?

726
00:39:13,513 --> 00:39:17,393
I just don't feel like I have time and
then I wonder why am I depriving myself?

727
00:39:17,393 --> 00:39:21,753
Okay, so let's talk about your self -talk,
right?

728
00:39:21,753 --> 00:39:25,973
Let's talk about when you get anxious or
your fight or flight.

729
00:39:25,973 --> 00:39:28,513
Your sympathetic nervous system is
activated.

730
00:39:28,513 --> 00:39:32,893
Let's talk about what triggers it and what
are the things we can get back to

731
00:39:32,893 --> 00:39:35,713
parasympathetic mode and calming you down,
right?

732
00:39:35,713 --> 00:39:40,653
And not indulging, not picking while
you're putting their lunches together, you

733
00:39:40,653 --> 00:39:45,013
know, because at the end of the day, I
want you to realize that when you stand on

734
00:39:45,013 --> 00:39:48,293
that stage, you want to be competitive.

735
00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:53,333
You don't want to just stand on a stage
and you want to be competitive and have

736
00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:55,989
all your hard work show and not be worried
about

737
00:39:55,989 --> 00:39:59,629
Am I placing this way because I stole a
little bit of a cookie the other?

738
00:39:59,629 --> 00:40:07,549
Like, are you going to let a little cookie
determine your placing?

739
00:40:07,549 --> 00:40:09,229
Because that's what you're doing.

740
00:40:09,229 --> 00:40:13,369
You know, and by then everybody's like,
man, you put it in such a way that Janine

741
00:40:13,369 --> 00:40:17,069
is like, I'm just here to tell you the
truth and hold you accountable.

742
00:40:17,069 --> 00:40:21,449
Because at the end of the day, as coaches,
that's the biggest thing that we give our

743
00:40:21,449 --> 00:40:22,169
clients, right?

744
00:40:22,169 --> 00:40:23,509
Yes, we give them our time.

745
00:40:23,509 --> 00:40:25,493
Yes, we give them our energy.

746
00:40:25,493 --> 00:40:31,233
But holding that person accountable, you
know, everybody needs that little chair

747
00:40:31,233 --> 00:40:33,593
leader to let them know you can do this.

748
00:40:33,593 --> 00:40:36,853
Not everybody has it, you know.

749
00:40:37,353 --> 00:40:38,703
You're worthy.

750
00:40:38,703 --> 00:40:40,134
You're worthy of it.

751
00:40:40,134 --> 00:40:41,174
to see the potential.

752
00:40:41,174 --> 00:40:42,294
Like we see it all the time.

753
00:40:42,294 --> 00:40:43,974
We see these amazing stories.

754
00:40:43,974 --> 00:40:47,954
Like weekend after weekend, like a girl
goes and does a show, she's lost 100

755
00:40:47,954 --> 00:40:52,584
pounds, or overcome like some fatal
disease and then ends up competing.

756
00:40:52,584 --> 00:40:56,534
Like we see it all the time, so like we
can believe it, but it's like for them to

757
00:40:56,534 --> 00:40:57,524
be able to see that.

758
00:40:57,524 --> 00:41:00,054
So I like the, using the word of worth.

759
00:41:00,054 --> 00:41:02,457
I think that that's really powerful, so.

760
00:41:02,457 --> 00:41:05,497
mean, there's a process as human beings
that we go through, right?

761
00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:10,797
Whenever we've, most human beings, not
all, whenever we go through adversity, we

762
00:41:10,797 --> 00:41:16,267
have the tendency to think that that
adversity means that we are not worth,

763
00:41:16,267 --> 00:41:19,187
that we've now lost some self -value,
right?

764
00:41:19,187 --> 00:41:20,977
Why am I going through this?

765
00:41:20,977 --> 00:41:26,277
Or why am I, you know, we have a tendency
to go inwards, right?

766
00:41:26,277 --> 00:41:28,045
Whereas like, I...

767
00:41:28,245 --> 00:41:32,265
It's took me a long time, long, long time.

768
00:41:32,265 --> 00:41:37,525
Now, whenever I'm facing adversity, the
first thing I say is thank you, God.

769
00:41:38,305 --> 00:41:43,705
Even if, you know how they say, fake it to
make it, I will be on the verge of tears.

770
00:41:43,705 --> 00:41:49,165
I will be literally in tears sometimes,
but I continue to say thank you because I

771
00:41:49,165 --> 00:41:54,965
know that whatever I'm going through is
meant to either shape me, teach me, mold

772
00:41:54,965 --> 00:41:57,173
me, bring me to a different place.

773
00:41:57,173 --> 00:41:58,843
So I just need to endure what it is.

774
00:41:58,843 --> 00:42:01,633
And it's hard to do that as human beings.

775
00:42:01,653 --> 00:42:02,323
It's hard.

776
00:42:02,323 --> 00:42:05,773
We want to throw that, oh, woe is me, pity
party.

777
00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:07,513
Now I'm not valuable.

778
00:42:07,513 --> 00:42:10,033
Some of my self -worth is lost.

779
00:42:10,633 --> 00:42:14,323
But, you know, like I said, I'm a faith
-filled person.

780
00:42:14,323 --> 00:42:21,573
If you could just quiet your mind and just
say thank you, just keep saying thank you

781
00:42:21,573 --> 00:42:26,013
because you don't know what that is meant
to do to your life, how it's meant to

782
00:42:26,013 --> 00:42:27,141
shape you.

783
00:42:27,797 --> 00:42:31,917
but just trust that there's a higher
reason for it, you know?

784
00:42:33,032 --> 00:42:34,292
Absolutely.

785
00:42:36,532 --> 00:42:37,712
Yeah.

786
00:42:38,592 --> 00:42:39,613
Right.

787
00:42:39,613 --> 00:42:40,943
wait for like Marina's story.

788
00:42:40,943 --> 00:42:43,113
You guys should have Marina on.

789
00:42:43,293 --> 00:42:45,073
You really should.

790
00:42:45,313 --> 00:42:46,613
Oh my gosh, yeah.

791
00:42:46,613 --> 00:42:47,853
Her story.

792
00:42:47,853 --> 00:42:48,214
Yeah.

793
00:42:48,214 --> 00:42:51,574
think that's interesting to have stepped
away and then come back.

794
00:42:51,574 --> 00:42:54,294
You know, again, it's always there for
you.

795
00:42:54,294 --> 00:42:59,394
And I think just with the evolution of the
masters categories, like Sandy recently

796
00:42:59,394 --> 00:43:00,974
gave a statistic on a podcast.

797
00:43:00,974 --> 00:43:02,324
I don't have the exact numbers.

798
00:43:02,324 --> 00:43:05,394
I think I might have even texted you them,
Janine, when we were setting this up, that

799
00:43:05,394 --> 00:43:12,114
it's like 60 % of amateurs are masters.

800
00:43:12,264 --> 00:43:12,825
now.

801
00:43:12,825 --> 00:43:15,905
Just at like 45 or something of pros or
masters.

802
00:43:15,905 --> 00:43:19,109
That's amazing, right?

803
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:19,479
a lot.

804
00:43:19,479 --> 00:43:26,049
I mean, listen, I'm not going to say that
we are the future of the sport, but think

805
00:43:26,049 --> 00:43:26,929
about it.

806
00:43:26,929 --> 00:43:32,109
You know, this sport is not a cheap sport
by any means.

807
00:43:32,109 --> 00:43:36,509
You know, you do have to have your
finances in order and you will find that,

808
00:43:36,509 --> 00:43:41,589
you know, the majority of the people able
to turn to this.

809
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:45,029
whether it's now that they're settled in
their finances, settled in their career,

810
00:43:45,029 --> 00:43:49,029
what have you, are going to be over the
age of 35, because you know, 35 and up are

811
00:43:49,029 --> 00:43:50,240
masters, Mandy.

812
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:50,580
-hmm.

813
00:43:50,580 --> 00:43:51,300
Yeah.

814
00:43:51,300 --> 00:44:00,620
Hey, I just turned 35 March 1st, and I kid
you not, my hashtag was, my very first

815
00:44:00,620 --> 00:44:04,340
hashtag on my 31st birthday was like,
Masters.

816
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,637
Like if you look at my birthday post, it's
MPC Masters.

817
00:44:08,637 --> 00:44:10,337
to claim it, Masters.

818
00:44:10,337 --> 00:44:16,757
But it's true, there's a lot of Masters
competitors entering the sport, you know,

819
00:44:16,757 --> 00:44:21,697
and a lot of the legacy competitors are
soon going to be Masters, you know,

820
00:44:21,697 --> 00:44:24,217
they're going to hit that 35 mark pretty
soon.

821
00:44:24,217 --> 00:44:27,857
So I love the fact that Masters Olympia
returned.

822
00:44:27,857 --> 00:44:32,077
That was a huge blessing for me.

823
00:44:32,497 --> 00:44:36,213
And I say blessing because from the minute
I heard about it, I...

824
00:44:36,213 --> 00:44:40,172
It was part of my prayers every single
night for it to come back.

825
00:44:40,172 --> 00:44:44,833
I think it gives legacy to the sport,
longevity to the sport.

826
00:44:44,833 --> 00:44:50,773
I have three little daughters who, yes,
they know who Jen Dory is and Lorelie

827
00:44:50,773 --> 00:44:55,953
Chapados, but how great would it be for,
my redhead always says, I'm gonna be the

828
00:44:55,953 --> 00:44:58,053
first redhead, Miss Olympia.

829
00:44:58,053 --> 00:44:59,513
Slow down, Kimo Sabe.

830
00:44:59,513 --> 00:45:01,553
I think Seabum's wife got that one.

831
00:45:01,553 --> 00:45:03,957
But it's like, you know.

832
00:45:03,957 --> 00:45:09,347
How awesome would it be for her to be
competing years from now?

833
00:45:09,347 --> 00:45:11,517
I mean, she's only eight years from now.

834
00:45:11,517 --> 00:45:16,197
And then the people that she knew as
competitors, whether it's Laura Lee or

835
00:45:16,197 --> 00:45:21,627
Maureen or Jen Dory or Ashlyn are now
still competing, but it masters, you know,

836
00:45:21,627 --> 00:45:24,497
longevity of the sport.

837
00:45:25,557 --> 00:45:27,777
And had kids, yeah, yeah.

838
00:45:27,777 --> 00:45:30,797
My middle is, my oldest wants to be a
judge.

839
00:45:30,797 --> 00:45:33,905
She swears she's gonna take Sandy's job.

840
00:45:34,088 --> 00:45:35,170
Ah.

841
00:45:35,221 --> 00:45:41,261
She just, she literally heard me one day
mentioning to someone that I think Sandy

842
00:45:41,261 --> 00:45:43,041
Williams said she's gonna retire.

843
00:45:43,041 --> 00:45:47,741
And ever since then, we've gone to shows
and watched shows together.

844
00:45:47,741 --> 00:45:51,711
And she's just like, yep, when Sandy
leaves the sport, I'm gonna be the judge.

845
00:45:51,711 --> 00:45:54,901
I'm like, there's a lot of years in
between.

846
00:45:55,101 --> 00:45:59,280
You gotta grow up some, you're 11, you
know, but.

847
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,317
rank and try and try to match it and then
pull up the score card.

848
00:46:03,317 --> 00:46:04,237
I know!

849
00:46:04,237 --> 00:46:09,357
She wants to go to Olympia so badly, so
maybe this year.

850
00:46:09,357 --> 00:46:13,867
I keep, I'm kind of iffy on it, because
she's 11, you know?

851
00:46:13,867 --> 00:46:18,617
But at the same time, it's astounding,
because she goes to shows, and she's very

852
00:46:18,617 --> 00:46:21,137
much into watching the men as well, too.

853
00:46:21,137 --> 00:46:24,397
You know, that's usually where I'm like,
okay, let's go take a break.

854
00:46:24,397 --> 00:46:27,357
No, she's like, Mom, he's coming in kind
of flat.

855
00:46:27,357 --> 00:46:28,461
And I'm like...

856
00:46:29,467 --> 00:46:30,147
The lingo.

857
00:46:30,147 --> 00:46:30,949
She gets it.

858
00:46:30,949 --> 00:46:34,889
late she knows the lingo, she'll be like,
they should move him to center.

859
00:46:34,889 --> 00:46:39,309
And she's like, she's at all the shows and
she's like, uh -uh, his last bread is,

860
00:46:39,309 --> 00:46:40,399
mom, did you see this?

861
00:46:40,399 --> 00:46:43,039
And I'm like, I don't even watch the men.

862
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:44,809
Where are you getting this from?

863
00:46:44,809 --> 00:46:45,609
You know?

864
00:46:45,609 --> 00:46:49,249
Um, but it's funny because my oldest wants
to be a judge.

865
00:46:49,249 --> 00:46:51,229
My middle wants to be a competitor.

866
00:46:51,229 --> 00:46:54,879
And my daughter, my youngest, the five
-year -old is just like, is there a tiara?

867
00:46:54,879 --> 00:46:56,789
Is there a princess tiara?

868
00:46:56,789 --> 00:47:00,189
She could care less about any parts of it,
you know?

869
00:47:00,189 --> 00:47:00,897
Yeah

870
00:47:00,897 --> 00:47:02,472
all the frowns and that's it.

871
00:47:02,472 --> 00:47:07,592
you imagine as they get older and then
they like, then the one is the competitor

872
00:47:07,592 --> 00:47:11,872
and the one is the judge and be like, ah,
ah, and they have to like do shows

873
00:47:11,872 --> 00:47:13,032
together.

874
00:47:13,052 --> 00:47:14,975
It'd be so great.

875
00:47:14,975 --> 00:47:15,837
That's so neat.

876
00:47:15,837 --> 00:47:17,317
would be so interesting.

877
00:47:17,317 --> 00:47:23,257
It's funny the personalities they have and
just how they differ and but they love the

878
00:47:23,257 --> 00:47:24,557
sport, you know.

879
00:47:24,557 --> 00:47:28,177
They think I'm like a superhero or
something when they see me because it's

880
00:47:28,177 --> 00:47:33,417
like mommy transforms and at home I'm like
mom, you know.

881
00:47:33,417 --> 00:47:34,052
So...

882
00:47:34,052 --> 00:47:36,782
been so cool to see the Olympia.

883
00:47:36,782 --> 00:47:40,592
I mean, and you traveled all the way
across the world to get there and so to

884
00:47:40,592 --> 00:47:45,272
get up there and then to place second,
which is like amazing.

885
00:47:45,272 --> 00:47:48,692
So tell me a little bit about that
experience from like putting in your

886
00:47:48,692 --> 00:47:52,852
application to like actually getting it
together to go because I mean, that's a

887
00:47:52,852 --> 00:47:54,032
far journey.

888
00:47:54,032 --> 00:47:56,072
It's not a cheap trip either.

889
00:47:56,072 --> 00:47:58,077
So what was that whole experience like?

890
00:47:58,077 --> 00:48:00,317
was amazing.

891
00:48:00,317 --> 00:48:06,097
So from the time I remember my old coach
mentioned back in the day that you said

892
00:48:06,097 --> 00:48:09,797
Masters Olympia, I put it on my prayer
list.

893
00:48:09,797 --> 00:48:11,317
I think it was on my prayer list.

894
00:48:11,317 --> 00:48:14,597
So I started praying for it to come back
and people were like, well, you know, it's

895
00:48:14,597 --> 00:48:16,357
a long shot.

896
00:48:17,417 --> 00:48:18,977
Nothing's impossible for my God.

897
00:48:18,977 --> 00:48:25,377
So it came back and funny enough, classic
Janine, I prayed and prayed for it to come

898
00:48:25,377 --> 00:48:27,102
back and I wasn't going to apply.

899
00:48:27,102 --> 00:48:27,633
No.

900
00:48:27,633 --> 00:48:29,433
was not going to apply.

901
00:48:29,433 --> 00:48:34,083
I just kept thinking, I mean, so many pros
are going to apply.

902
00:48:34,083 --> 00:48:35,133
I'm a new pro.

903
00:48:35,133 --> 00:48:36,443
Why would they look at me?

904
00:48:36,443 --> 00:48:39,453
Like I was just very in my head.

905
00:48:39,993 --> 00:48:45,913
And between my coach, Jamie D Bernard at
the time and a friend of mine, Kaz, who's

906
00:48:45,913 --> 00:48:47,789
a photographer, he said, you should do it.

907
00:48:50,869 --> 00:48:51,999
So many people doing it.

908
00:48:51,999 --> 00:48:57,049
I don't, I don't think he's like the worst
that could happen is that they say no.

909
00:48:57,049 --> 00:48:57,509
Right.

910
00:48:57,509 --> 00:48:59,349
You've been praying for this.

911
00:48:59,349 --> 00:49:00,469
Now you got it.

912
00:49:00,469 --> 00:49:02,789
And it's almost like you're like slapping
God.

913
00:49:02,789 --> 00:49:04,719
Like, well, I prayed for it, but now I
don't want it.

914
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,169
So I was like, all right, you're right.

915
00:49:06,169 --> 00:49:10,489
So the deadline was something like Sunday
at midnight.

916
00:49:10,489 --> 00:49:14,049
And I hit send on my application at 10 PM.

917
00:49:14,049 --> 00:49:15,109
That's it.

918
00:49:15,409 --> 00:49:18,997
I was like, waiting, waiting, waiting.

919
00:49:18,997 --> 00:49:20,997
Then they gave one announcement date.

920
00:49:20,997 --> 00:49:23,767
Then they changed the announcement date to
another announcement date.

921
00:49:23,767 --> 00:49:28,437
And I was just like, and I remember when
they announced it, I was at powerhouse gym

922
00:49:28,437 --> 00:49:29,857
here in Miami.

923
00:49:30,077 --> 00:49:34,517
I think everybody thought something
happened because I ran a full lap around

924
00:49:34,517 --> 00:49:36,697
that gym just screaming.

925
00:49:37,437 --> 00:49:41,477
Because I was like waiting for my name.

926
00:49:41,477 --> 00:49:46,237
And then I remember Tarek was calling all
the names and I'm looking at him like, my

927
00:49:46,237 --> 00:49:47,047
name's not on there.

928
00:49:47,047 --> 00:49:47,807
I got sad.

929
00:49:47,807 --> 00:49:48,821
And then he goes,

930
00:49:48,885 --> 00:49:51,065
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, that's
wellness.

931
00:49:51,065 --> 00:49:52,485
That's the wrong list.

932
00:49:52,485 --> 00:49:54,405
And I was like, whew.

933
00:49:54,405 --> 00:49:58,445
And then my phone started ringing before I
had even seen my name.

934
00:49:58,445 --> 00:50:00,325
And I was like, yes.

935
00:50:00,325 --> 00:50:05,024
So then it became, okay, God, you answered
the prayer for it to come back.

936
00:50:05,024 --> 00:50:08,205
You answered the prayer for me to go,
right?

937
00:50:08,205 --> 00:50:13,625
So then my last prayer was if I placed
well, you know, I would do X amount with

938
00:50:13,625 --> 00:50:14,205
the funds.

939
00:50:14,205 --> 00:50:17,315
And all the way through, it was just an
amazing experience.

940
00:50:17,315 --> 00:50:18,871
I got to Romania.

941
00:50:19,285 --> 00:50:24,545
made friends with a women's physique
competitor who I spilled water all over on

942
00:50:24,545 --> 00:50:25,785
my flight.

943
00:50:25,845 --> 00:50:32,565
And it just so happens we became friends,
you know, because it was like, I spilled

944
00:50:32,565 --> 00:50:36,065
water all over her and thought, oh my God,
I was helping her clean up.

945
00:50:36,065 --> 00:50:37,905
But then where was my seat?

946
00:50:37,905 --> 00:50:40,405
Right next to her.

947
00:50:40,405 --> 00:50:43,335
So on the way back, we became Evie Hearn.

948
00:50:43,335 --> 00:50:45,025
We became, you know, friends.

949
00:50:45,025 --> 00:50:46,485
We hung out with each other.

950
00:50:46,485 --> 00:50:52,445
The entire experience over there was
surreal because you're literally in this

951
00:50:52,445 --> 00:51:00,005
foreign country with people who obviously
all love the sport as much as you.

952
00:51:00,005 --> 00:51:03,535
But that's your, that's the one thing
bonding each of you, right?

953
00:51:03,535 --> 00:51:04,845
Cause you're in foreign surroundings.

954
00:51:04,845 --> 00:51:05,615
Let's face it.

955
00:51:05,615 --> 00:51:06,605
None of us knew.

956
00:51:06,605 --> 00:51:09,985
We would get down in the lobby and be
like, did you go to the mall yesterday?

957
00:51:09,985 --> 00:51:11,215
Which, which way was it?

958
00:51:11,215 --> 00:51:12,805
How did you walk?

959
00:51:12,805 --> 00:51:14,061
Like, you know,

960
00:51:14,229 --> 00:51:20,849
But it was something that kept us all like
grounded and just you saw people and

961
00:51:20,849 --> 00:51:22,329
you're like, are you so and so?

962
00:51:22,329 --> 00:51:25,449
Because you see them on Instagram and you
know what I mean?

963
00:51:25,449 --> 00:51:27,529
It was such an amazing experience.

964
00:51:27,529 --> 00:51:30,199
The people of Romania were super sweet to
us.

965
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:31,829
They were super nice.

966
00:51:32,029 --> 00:51:34,069
The venue was amazing.

967
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:40,309
I mean, the work that Jake Wood and Alina
Popa put into it, I was...

968
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:44,405
It was what like, I was always inspired to
go to the Olympia.

969
00:51:44,405 --> 00:51:47,095
But that just fueled it even more.

970
00:51:47,095 --> 00:51:51,365
Cause I was like, look at this production,
you know?

971
00:51:51,365 --> 00:51:56,765
For check -ins, the host, Billy, was like
acting if it was the real show, announcing

972
00:51:56,765 --> 00:51:57,245
all of it.

973
00:51:57,245 --> 00:52:02,785
It was just, from beginning to end, such
an amazing experience.

974
00:52:02,785 --> 00:52:04,315
I loved every minute of it.

975
00:52:04,315 --> 00:52:05,645
I loved it.

976
00:52:05,687 --> 00:52:07,017
that's really cool.

977
00:52:07,017 --> 00:52:08,337
That's so neat.

978
00:52:08,337 --> 00:52:09,527
It was great watching it.

979
00:52:09,527 --> 00:52:11,837
And then of course, I knew you'd be in the
mix.

980
00:52:11,837 --> 00:52:16,297
Like you had came out as a pro and just
like winning your first pro show and tons

981
00:52:16,297 --> 00:52:16,877
of pro wins.

982
00:52:16,877 --> 00:52:18,017
I'm like, oh my gosh.

983
00:52:18,017 --> 00:52:20,477
And so such a huge honor.

984
00:52:20,477 --> 00:52:23,817
So do you know they confirmed if it's
coming back again?

985
00:52:23,817 --> 00:52:25,925
I know it's not this year for sure.

986
00:52:25,925 --> 00:52:29,845
it's, it's supposed to come back for 2025.

987
00:52:30,865 --> 00:52:34,285
Um, I'm really, really hoping that it
does.

988
00:52:34,285 --> 00:52:40,025
I have met so many people who are my
clients, not my clients, just enthusiastic

989
00:52:40,025 --> 00:52:44,165
about this, enthusiastic about the sport
that have been like, is it coming back in

990
00:52:44,165 --> 00:52:44,775
2025?

991
00:52:44,775 --> 00:52:52,405
You know, one of my, um, things that I'm
like proudest about is I remember having,

992
00:52:52,405 --> 00:52:55,531
uh, somebody Instagram me a message.

993
00:52:56,245 --> 00:53:00,405
Two years ago, when I started, and he said
to me, it's a gentleman, he said to me,

994
00:53:00,405 --> 00:53:03,425
you know, I became inspired watching you
work out.

995
00:53:03,425 --> 00:53:07,555
He goes, I used to work out and compete
many years ago.

996
00:53:07,555 --> 00:53:12,375
And then because of things that happened
in the sport, I kind of got sour over it,

997
00:53:12,375 --> 00:53:13,965
which he saw as more politics.

998
00:53:13,965 --> 00:53:16,025
And he goes, I stepped away from it.

999
00:53:16,025 --> 00:53:20,345
And he goes, but watching you on your
journey has made me go back to the gym.

1000
00:53:20,345 --> 00:53:22,825
So after Romania,

1001
00:53:23,381 --> 00:53:28,521
He competed in the first competition in 30
years and he won.

1002
00:53:28,521 --> 00:53:31,551
He's in Canada, William, Danny is his
name.

1003
00:53:31,551 --> 00:53:37,441
He won and he wrote me and he literally
said, had it not been for you and just how

1004
00:53:37,441 --> 00:53:43,061
much you promote masters athletes and
you're just so motivated to like be in the

1005
00:53:43,061 --> 00:53:48,521
sport despite age, he's like, it really
motivated me to revisit this dream.

1006
00:53:48,521 --> 00:53:49,461
And he...

1007
00:53:49,461 --> 00:53:53,741
after 30 years, competed, won his classes
and his divisions.

1008
00:53:53,741 --> 00:53:58,801
And he said to me, you know, now that
Masters Olympia is back, it kind of

1009
00:53:58,801 --> 00:54:02,421
reinvigorates me to stay in it and go
after that dream.

1010
00:54:02,421 --> 00:54:04,501
And that's what I was trying to tell
Alina.

1011
00:54:04,501 --> 00:54:10,781
I think that the Masters Olympia last year
lit a candle or a light for so many people

1012
00:54:10,781 --> 00:54:12,721
that this is possible.

1013
00:54:12,721 --> 00:54:18,241
How many Masters athletes, women, men,
that are probably like, I want to go

1014
00:54:18,241 --> 00:54:19,029
further.

1015
00:54:19,029 --> 00:54:25,159
I want to compete more, but age creates a
barrier, right?

1016
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:30,629
Because let's be real, not everybody's
going to make it to the Olympia, you know,

1017
00:54:30,629 --> 00:54:37,039
even if you are young -ish looking, you
know, there's a barrier there.

1018
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:44,229
So this opens up a whole world of
opportunity for people, people who had

1019
00:54:44,229 --> 00:54:46,837
walked away from the sport or just
thought,

1020
00:54:46,837 --> 00:54:48,137
Why get back into it?

1021
00:54:48,137 --> 00:54:49,757
Because there's a ceiling.

1022
00:54:49,777 --> 00:54:51,137
There's no ceiling.

1023
00:54:51,137 --> 00:54:57,157
Masters Olympia, literally you saw a
variation of ages there, you know, in all

1024
00:54:57,157 --> 00:55:02,617
the divisions because it was over 40, but
it was a variation of people over 40, you

1025
00:55:02,617 --> 00:55:03,617
know.

1026
00:55:03,897 --> 00:55:07,157
So it was an amazing experience.

1027
00:55:07,157 --> 00:55:08,717
I loved being a part of it.

1028
00:55:08,717 --> 00:55:13,347
I do consider myself an ambassador for
masters athletes and in the sport.

1029
00:55:13,347 --> 00:55:14,933
And I've

1030
00:55:14,933 --> 00:55:18,893
I mean, I've told Alina, I think I've told
everybody, if there's anything I could

1031
00:55:18,893 --> 00:55:24,873
ever do to help promote, encourage,
empower, support Masters athletes and

1032
00:55:24,873 --> 00:55:28,393
Masters Olympia itself, they did a
phenomenal job.

1033
00:55:28,393 --> 00:55:32,813
They rolled out the red carpet for us and
it showed in every way, Alina and Jake,

1034
00:55:32,813 --> 00:55:33,613
yeah.

1035
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,969
And I think that that's a huge sign.

1036
00:55:35,969 --> 00:55:39,979
I mean, knowing how big the division is,
and maybe perhaps the fact that there was

1037
00:55:39,979 --> 00:55:45,239
a Masters Olympia did grow the Masters
division, but yeah, it's something else to

1038
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:45,989
work towards.

1039
00:55:45,989 --> 00:55:50,756
You know, there was back, you know, 10
years ago, you'd get a pro card and...

1040
00:55:50,756 --> 00:55:53,616
over 35 or 40 and then a lot of people
just would never use it.

1041
00:55:53,616 --> 00:55:58,496
They wouldn't compete anymore and I
actually remember the very first Masters

1042
00:55:58,496 --> 00:56:03,216
Pro Bikini competition because there was
actually two girls from Kansas City that

1043
00:56:03,216 --> 00:56:06,286
were over 35 won their Pro Cards at North
Americans.

1044
00:56:06,286 --> 00:56:09,376
They were twins actually and they're like,
oh yeah, we had to jump into the show

1045
00:56:09,376 --> 00:56:13,976
because we begged for a Masters Pro Bikini
show and now they finally have one.

1046
00:56:13,976 --> 00:56:18,948
And so, you know, it's growing of course,
but everybody's also, we're all.

1047
00:56:18,948 --> 00:56:22,498
we're all going to eventually turn 40 and
50 and all those things, right?

1048
00:56:22,498 --> 00:56:26,828
So just to create more opportunities and
just, you know, tangible dreams too.

1049
00:56:26,828 --> 00:56:31,148
Like I think it's important to always
dream and reach for the stars, but I think

1050
00:56:31,148 --> 00:56:32,538
we're all realistic too, right?

1051
00:56:32,538 --> 00:56:37,648
Like, you know, there are a limited number
of openings at the Olympia, regardless of

1052
00:56:37,648 --> 00:56:38,238
age, right?

1053
00:56:38,238 --> 00:56:42,108
So, but I think that if you, you know,
know that there's this other opportunity

1054
00:56:42,108 --> 00:56:46,708
that you could dream for, then it's like,
okay, like that's something that I want to

1055
00:56:46,708 --> 00:56:47,268
work towards.

1056
00:56:47,268 --> 00:56:48,837
So I think it's amazing.

1057
00:56:48,837 --> 00:56:49,677
again.

1058
00:56:49,677 --> 00:56:51,214
Yeah, absolutely.

1059
00:56:51,214 --> 00:56:51,984
Yeah.

1060
00:56:51,984 --> 00:56:53,984
ambassador for Masters.

1061
00:56:53,984 --> 00:56:58,614
I mean, you can't, it's amazing.

1062
00:56:58,614 --> 00:57:03,054
I mean, it really is because your mindset,
your positivity, just like your Instagram,

1063
00:57:03,054 --> 00:57:05,204
you can see it glowing.

1064
00:57:05,204 --> 00:57:09,256
You're just so happy and elated and you
raise these three.

1065
00:57:09,256 --> 00:57:13,956
three little girls that watch you do it,
you have your clinic, you have all of

1066
00:57:13,956 --> 00:57:16,816
these things that are going on and you're
able to balance all of it with your

1067
00:57:16,816 --> 00:57:20,676
positive mindset, with your clients and
it's just like you couldn't ask for a

1068
00:57:20,676 --> 00:57:22,316
better ambassador than somebody like you.

1069
00:57:22,316 --> 00:57:24,940
Thank you so much, seriously.

1070
00:57:25,021 --> 00:57:25,941
Thanks.

1071
00:57:25,941 --> 00:57:26,491
Thanks.

1072
00:57:26,491 --> 00:57:30,721
No, I just, I love the sport and I love
Masters athletes.

1073
00:57:30,721 --> 00:57:31,981
I, you know that Jillian.

1074
00:57:31,981 --> 00:57:35,921
I remember I've been a big fan of
Jillian's for forever.

1075
00:57:35,921 --> 00:57:38,481
Every time I've seen her physique, I'm
blown away.

1076
00:57:38,481 --> 00:57:41,251
And then the other day, I can't remember
what show it was you did last year.

1077
00:57:41,251 --> 00:57:45,081
You remember I reached out to you and I
was just, Oh my gosh.

1078
00:57:45,081 --> 00:57:45,931
You know, it's funny.

1079
00:57:45,931 --> 00:57:51,141
Cause there's so many women that I've seen
online that I would love to meet in person

1080
00:57:51,141 --> 00:57:51,797
that.

1081
00:57:51,797 --> 00:57:55,097
It's funny when I meet them and they're
like, you're such an inspiration to me.

1082
00:57:55,097 --> 00:57:59,297
And I'm like, well, I was just about to
say that to you, you know, because it's

1083
00:57:59,297 --> 00:58:02,877
like, you run a business that empowers
women and uplifts women and it's all

1084
00:58:02,877 --> 00:58:03,187
coaching.

1085
00:58:03,187 --> 00:58:04,657
Like, you know what I mean?

1086
00:58:04,657 --> 00:58:11,837
So it's, I love being pro masters athletes
and I love being an ambassador, but it's

1087
00:58:11,837 --> 00:58:16,747
just also just being pro women and pro
this sport, you know?

1088
00:58:16,747 --> 00:58:19,737
I don't want anybody to talk bad about
bodybuilding.

1089
00:58:19,737 --> 00:58:20,437
Sorry.

1090
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,240
Yeah.

1091
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,001
Yeah.

1092
00:58:23,001 --> 00:58:23,641
just love it.

1093
00:58:23,641 --> 00:58:26,561
It's my niche, it's my tribe, it's my
community.

1094
00:58:26,561 --> 00:58:31,521
And when you love something, you protect
it and you want to see it grow and be

1095
00:58:31,521 --> 00:58:33,089
positive, you know?

1096
00:58:33,089 --> 00:58:37,649
and welcome more people to it, to this
wonderful world that's done so much for

1097
00:58:37,649 --> 00:58:39,289
all of us, right?

1098
00:58:39,289 --> 00:58:40,269
Yeah.

1099
00:58:40,269 --> 00:58:43,769
Well, before we run out of time, I do like
to ask every guest this.

1100
00:58:43,769 --> 00:58:49,029
What is, like, the main tip that you would
give to somebody who is struggling to fit

1101
00:58:49,029 --> 00:58:51,419
it all in with motherhood and career and
competing?

1102
00:58:51,419 --> 00:58:53,141
How do you juggle it all?

1103
00:58:53,141 --> 00:58:59,001
One of the biggest things you have to do,
I think, whether you're married or not

1104
00:58:59,001 --> 00:59:02,021
married in this sport is find your tribe.

1105
00:59:02,421 --> 00:59:04,421
Find your support system.

1106
00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:04,901
Right?

1107
00:59:04,901 --> 00:59:06,621
No man is an island.

1108
00:59:06,621 --> 00:59:07,131
Right?

1109
00:59:07,131 --> 00:59:12,941
And as much as you can be a boss babe,
independent girl, strong woman, we all

1110
00:59:12,941 --> 00:59:14,731
need a soft place to land.

1111
00:59:14,731 --> 00:59:17,205
And whether that soft place is your
partner.

1112
00:59:17,301 --> 00:59:21,221
or whether that soft place is girlfriends
who understand and can be there for you or

1113
00:59:21,221 --> 00:59:23,421
other family members or friends.

1114
00:59:23,421 --> 00:59:30,261
I've been able to create balance in this
sport and in my life because despite

1115
00:59:30,261 --> 00:59:35,981
having three girls and being a single mom
and having not a very positive co

1116
00:59:35,981 --> 00:59:40,121
-parenting relationship and having a
hectic career and all of these different

1117
00:59:40,121 --> 00:59:43,367
things, I have a tribe of women that are
around me.

1118
00:59:43,669 --> 00:59:47,628
that will set the world on fire if they
need to for me.

1119
00:59:47,628 --> 00:59:49,419
They are my soft place to land.

1120
00:59:49,419 --> 00:59:51,389
They are my biggest supporters.

1121
00:59:51,389 --> 00:59:57,189
They encourage me and encircle me anytime
anything goes wrong, you know, and having

1122
00:59:57,189 --> 01:00:01,919
that security is what helps me to keep
balance, you know?

1123
01:00:01,919 --> 01:00:04,369
I know that I can pick up the phone and
vent to someone.

1124
01:00:04,369 --> 01:00:10,549
I can have somebody help me if I need, you
know, one of my girls picked up.

1125
01:00:10,909 --> 01:00:12,771
Having balance,

1126
01:00:13,077 --> 01:00:16,587
is more than just being a one man show,
right?

1127
01:00:16,587 --> 01:00:22,377
You have to rely on other people in order
to keep that balance going.

1128
01:00:22,377 --> 01:00:26,977
You can keep it afloat for a very long
time on your own, but there's gonna come a

1129
01:00:26,977 --> 01:00:29,306
point where you're gonna need support.

1130
01:00:29,306 --> 01:00:32,517
So I always tell people when they're
coming into the sport, how's your support

1131
01:00:32,517 --> 01:00:33,537
system?

1132
01:00:33,537 --> 01:00:37,357
Because there's gonna be a lot of tough
days and tough times and life is tough

1133
01:00:37,357 --> 01:00:39,137
enough, right?

1134
01:00:39,137 --> 01:00:41,909
And then we talk about other things.

1135
01:00:41,909 --> 01:00:47,549
Support system and mindset are the two top
for me.

1136
01:00:47,769 --> 01:00:48,629
Yeah.

1137
01:00:48,949 --> 01:00:49,589
Yeah.

1138
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:52,909
Come into this sport with a clear mindset.

1139
01:00:53,009 --> 01:00:55,569
You know, not as a way to manage your
weight.

1140
01:00:55,669 --> 01:00:58,329
It's not healthy, right?

1141
01:00:58,329 --> 01:01:02,038
So, yeah, positive.

1142
01:01:02,038 --> 01:01:05,198
and ask for help, because I think a lot of
women are just so like, oh, it's quicker

1143
01:01:05,198 --> 01:01:10,558
if I do it, oh, I got this, you know, but
you just, yeah, it's okay.

1144
01:01:10,558 --> 01:01:12,118
It's okay to ask for help.

1145
01:01:12,118 --> 01:01:12,925
Yeah.

1146
01:01:12,925 --> 01:01:17,525
way that you can care for your kids is to
take care of yourself, right?

1147
01:01:17,525 --> 01:01:21,385
And knowing your own limits and your own
boundaries and when you need a little help

1148
01:01:21,385 --> 01:01:23,205
or when you need to step away.

1149
01:01:23,205 --> 01:01:27,725
So yeah, life's tough enough.

1150
01:01:28,167 --> 01:01:30,117
So I didn't ask this earlier.

1151
01:01:30,117 --> 01:01:34,607
One last quick question is when will we
get to see you grace the stage again?

1152
01:01:34,633 --> 01:01:36,433
that's a loaded question.

1153
01:01:36,433 --> 01:01:37,013
Not really.

1154
01:01:37,013 --> 01:01:39,193
Honest answer is I don't know.

1155
01:01:39,193 --> 01:01:41,823
I am in a very long off season.

1156
01:01:41,823 --> 01:01:46,033
Like I said, the clinic, we're expecting
to have it up by summer.

1157
01:01:46,033 --> 01:01:51,533
So it's unlikely that I will do anything
prior to then.

1158
01:01:51,993 --> 01:01:55,933
I'm good at multitasking, but when I'm
creating something like this, that it's

1159
01:01:55,933 --> 01:02:01,553
such a passion, it's such a baby, I just
want to be, you know, completely focused

1160
01:02:01,553 --> 01:02:02,613
and into it.

1161
01:02:02,613 --> 01:02:03,157
So.

1162
01:02:03,157 --> 01:02:09,387
Once that's up and done, then, I mean, in
the meantime, I mean, anybody watching me,

1163
01:02:09,387 --> 01:02:13,557
don't go soft, because your girl's in the
gym still, your girl's eating.

1164
01:02:13,557 --> 01:02:20,757
I'm not slacking off, but as to which show
I will come back in, I'm not sure yet.

1165
01:02:21,506 --> 01:02:22,256
Okay, cool.

1166
01:02:22,256 --> 01:02:23,846
Well, we cannot wait to see.

1167
01:02:23,846 --> 01:02:27,356
And I'm so excited just to follow,
continue to follow your journey.

1168
01:02:27,356 --> 01:02:30,586
And I am so, I feel so privileged I've
gotten to know you better today.

1169
01:02:30,586 --> 01:02:35,406
And thank you so much for coming on and
sharing so much insight.

1170
01:02:35,866 --> 01:02:38,886
Tell our listeners how they can connect
with you.

1171
01:02:38,901 --> 01:02:44,121
So anybody wanting to connect with me can
always drop me an email message at janine

1172
01:02:44,121 --> 01:02:51,181
at team alpha aesthetics .com or feel free
to hop on Instagram J a nine fit that's J

1173
01:02:51,181 --> 01:02:55,277
a the number nine F I T fit and DME.

1174
01:02:55,810 --> 01:02:59,190
So, we'll include that all in the show
notes as well.

1175
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:59,586
So.

1176
01:02:59,586 --> 01:03:03,356
Thank you so much for coming on today and
letting us pick your brain.

1177
01:03:03,816 --> 01:03:05,456
Yeah, yeah.

1178
01:03:05,456 --> 01:03:08,936
Well, thank you guys so much for listening
and until next time.

1179
01:03:08,936 --> 01:03:09,424
Bye.