Revolutionary Optimism Podcast

As the U.S. approaches its 250th anniversary, the question isn’t just what kind of country we are, but what kind of citizens we’re willing to be.

In this episode, Dr. Paul Zeitz sits down with Maury Giles, CEO of Braver Angels, to explore what it really takes to hold a country together in deeply polarized times. From navigating political divides within his own family to leading a national movement focused on bridging those divides, Maury shares why this moment in American history demands something different from all of us.

Together, they unpack the idea of courageous citizenship: the choice to act instead of react, to stay in conversation instead of walking away, and to recognize that our futures are more connected than we think.

Learn more about Braver Angels and the 2026 National Convention: https://braverangels.org/
Connect with Maury: linkedin.com/in/maurygiles 


Are you ready to join #unifyUSA? Learn more about the transformational movement at https://unify-usa.org/

Get your copy of Hit Refresh on the U.S. Constitution: A Revolutionary Roadmap for Fulfilling the Promise of Democracy here!

Get your copy of Revolutionary Optimism: Seven Steps for Living as a Love-Centered-Activist here.

Revolutionary Optimism is hosted by Dr. Paul Zeitz and produced by Wavestream Media.

What is Revolutionary Optimism Podcast?

To respond to the challenging times we are living through, physician, humanitarian and social justice advocate Dr. Paul Zeitz has identified “Revolutionary Optimism” as a new cure for hopelessness, despair, and cynicism. Revolutionary Optimism is itself an infectious, contagious, self-created way of living and connecting with others on the path of love. Once you commit yourself as a Revolutionary Optimist, you can bravely unleash your personal power, #unify with others, and accelerate action for our collective repair, justice, and peace, always keeping love at the center.