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Hi, everybody.

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Welcome.

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This is the She Who Is Seeking podcast.

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Which is a podcast for the insatiably
curious Mystic, Witch and Weirdo.

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Where I explore themes like spaciousness,
dreams, fear and pleasure with curiosity.

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What do I think I know, and perhaps
more importantly, what am I missing?

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What have I learned?

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And what might I be able to
share from my experience?

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And do you have to be a
Mystic, Witch or Weirdo?

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Weirdo?

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No.

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Of course not.

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But I imagine it will appeal to
you more if you're open and curious

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and not afraid of those words.

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I'm your host and guide Meena
Melissa Leigh, and I want to

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welcome you into our parlor.

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Grab a lovely cup of tea.

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And today we're going to explore freedom.

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Freedom to be a hundred percent myself.

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And the claiming of freedom for you
to be a hundred percent yourself.

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And this is so intertwined with
the bravery and rebirth stories.

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And even the healing episode really.

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Because it's easier to step into
being yourself when you've gotten some

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of the other stuff out of the way.

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Or at least you're aware of what
programs are running in the background.

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I also feel like this could have been
titled She Who Is Seeking Rebirth

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Business Edition or Entrepreneur Edition.

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And it's also really about
stepping into your purpose.

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This is about cultivating that
wildness that lets our magic shine.

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It's about how things like
embracing wildness, is an act

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of freedom and resistance.

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And this story is also about how doing
things my own way, rather than following

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the rules and structures set by others...

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Finally allowed me to get back into
flow and in touch with my magic and

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ready to do the work I am meant to do
as a big, bad, bold, beautiful bad-ass.

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I guess I should say.

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If I really want to do
a major alliteration.

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As a big, bad, bold, beautiful.

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Bad-ass business bitch.

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And I bet that applies to
a lot of you out there too.

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And so I want to share my story with
you in this way, because I think

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you'll find bits of yourself here.

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And I want the best for you.

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I want for you to shine bright.

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And when we can learn the lessons
and bring them back, then we

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can light the way for others.

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So...

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here we go.

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I had been encountering a lot of
stagnation, but the way I want

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to show up in the world, As in-

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I was proclaiming how I wanted
to show up in the world and

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I knew what I wanted to do.

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Only it wasn't happening.

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At least not in the really
big ways I had been picturing.

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And worse in my book, it felt
like I had done all of the things.

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Figure it outmy "whys", journaled about
the barriers, affirmed it was my time

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for this- blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And it was obnoxious and annoying
because it felt, and I mean,

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truly felt ,like I was doing
everything that I possibly could.

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And yet there was that
dreaded  disconnect.

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So this episode is about the rebirth
through healing and the birthing

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of freedom I've been experiencing
as a human and entrepreneur.

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One who has to earn a living in
this world, and who wants to do

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the work as my authentic self.

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I insist upon the freedom to be me.

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And I want that for you too.

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Life is too precious to waste on
pretending to be somebody you're not.

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Or what I was doing.

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Hiding parts of yourself
that really make you, you.

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There's big and small ways in which this
shows up in our everyday life, right?

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Trying to fit in, or make
people more comfortable.

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Maybe hiding something about ourselves
that we know might not land with someone.

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So, this definitely had been
showing up in all of my life.

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But it really hit home when I
thought about how it applies to

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me as a spiritual entrepreneur.

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And if you aren't an entrepreneur or
self-employed, I'm sure you can imagine

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whatever applicable stand in you like,
'cause I bet that you'll be able to see

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how it's relating to a part of your life.

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Because when I've worked with
people, these same kind of

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things pop up again and again.

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So, here's some background.

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I never have had a problem with working
and I especially love to get in flow and

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make 190 of whatever it is at a time.

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And I get into this zone where
I create and time stands still.

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And I forget to eat and all of that.

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And I've always been that way.

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Or, if I'm leaning into
something I'm all in.

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I've always been a part-time
hustler or a busy bee.

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I've had a jewelry company, and
I've had one where I made soaps and

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bath salts ,and I had doll making
and bookbinding and mixed media,

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art collage, all sorts of things.

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But there was always a part of me that
was not as committed to getting paid

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as making the items, or doing the work.

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And I would even offer crazy discounts or
giveaways, or give things away as gifts.

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And I did a lot of trades.

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And it was bonkers.

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And is it just that I love creating
beauty, and using my hands,

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or the idea of a little shop?

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Well, sort of, I mean,
somewhat- that's part of it.

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But in doing healing work years and years
ago, I learned that this is very common.

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And often it's due to a self-worth issue.

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As in, I don't deserve to make
money doing something I love.

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Or something that's related
to a lack mentality.

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Where you just can't imagine ever
being in flow, or in abundance.

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And sometimes it's super subconscious and
you have no idea you're even doing it.

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Other times you kind to know,
but you don't know how to fix it.

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So, whatever the case, my guess is all
of that's true for myself to some degree.

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And I did have much more fun doing
the work than asking for payment.

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The problem with that is something I'm
sure that you've already figured out.

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Which is, how do you pay your bills?

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And pay for your life.

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If you're not charging
appropriately for your work.

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The short answer.

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You don't.

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So I think we've honed in on some issues.

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Self-worth, confidence, focus.

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Even if there's not a solution yet there,
we can kind of see the problem, yes?

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So one of the other issues that I
uncovered for myself was the fact

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that I needed to fully be able to
support myself and my children.

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But back then, I didn't feel like
I had the qualifications to do so.

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So when I found myself suddenly a single
mom, I was reeling from heartbreak.

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See the episode on healing, and I knew
I needed to clear myself, so I could be

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a conduit for healing for my children.

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And we were all hurting.

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It was covering us like a blanket.

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And this started me on the path of
trainings and certifications and

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up leveling my skills in Reiki.

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Shamanic healing work,
yoga, sound healing.

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I did a lot of space
clearing, hands-on healing.

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I did an amazing full-blown life
coaching program, which was super cool.

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It was centered around a
five point elemental system.

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And I've done learning and herbalism.

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All of that was done on weekends and
evenings or when the kids were in

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school or whenever I have spare time.

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And the training's built
on skills I already had.

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And I've been practicing mystical arts
in some way for basically my whole life.

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But it felt like there
was a lot of remembering.

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Or learning words for things that
maybe I was already doing, but I didn't

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know how to describe what I was doing.

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So I think it was really worth it.

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And I was learning so much and loving it.

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Meeting amazing people.

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Healing myself along the way.

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It was amazing.

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I could listen to my friends and
hold space for them all day long.

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Offered advice and reflect
their growth back to them.

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I was always assured I was ready
to start earning money using these

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gifts and talents by my teachers, and
I knew that as well, but it always

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felt like it wasn't enough training.

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That's just definitely how I am.

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I've always wanted to know everything.

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I want to learn it.

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Talk to people about it ,by all the stuff.

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If there's a magazine, I want it.

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A conference.

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Yes, I'm booking a ticket right now.

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All of it.

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I want to do all of it.

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Stay up late ,night after night,
diving deeper, going down rabbit

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holes of hidden knowledge.

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And I bet this is sounding
familiar for a lot of you.

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And I was looking for some way
to test or quantify my knowledge.

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It's just who I am, I suppose.

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Part of this was the eternal student.

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You know, the one who doesn't
want to graduate and get a job.

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So they'd rather just keep learning
and we all know those people, and

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maybe all of us are those people.

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So hopefully this next bit
is true for you as well.

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I've always had big dreams for myself.

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I could always see a path forward.

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Where I was living a
beautiful and colorful life.

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So what was getting in the way?

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It is true that I was afraid I would
fail or perhaps even scarier succeed.

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But why is succeeding?

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Scary?

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Well, Because if I succeeded,
then that would mean everyone

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would be able to see me.

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To see my truth.

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See my vulnerabilities.

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Okay.

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So number one.

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Fear.

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The next one makes me sound
kind of like an asshole, but.

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And we'll just do it together.

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I've always had a knack for
attracting amazing people to me.

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Some are brilliant or rich, famous,
accomplished, funny, amazing people.

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And ,you know, they thought I was
cool and worth their time, but I

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had a hard time letting that in and
feeling like I was actually worthy.

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And why am I being so painfully
in embarrassing, transparent?

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Well, I have a sneaking suspicion
that I'm not the only one here who

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has felt that at some point, right?

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Everyone around you is published,
or known and accomplished.

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Maybe they're further in thier
career or attaining their life goals.

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And it can be very confronting.

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It wasn't that I felt unworthy.

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And definitely, I didn't
feel unworthy of them per se.

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But it was just, I don't know, I didn't
feel up to snuff for a long time.

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So.

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Issue number two.

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Self-worth.

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I had gained skills.

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And I was doing work for
healers and teachers.

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And so I should've realized I was good
to go and launch an amazing career.

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Like now, right?

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Well, Let's queue the
industrial standard...

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the I'm a fraud free for all.

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The dreaded and yet incredibly common...

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imposter syndrome.

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And it's like the common
cold of the healer world.

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It is so incredibly common
and all over the place.

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And I think it's hard to find somebody
who hasn't had it, at least once

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or twice pop up in their lives.

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So issue three.

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Is Imposter syndrome.

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And it didn't help that I
had such amazing aspirations.

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All of the things that I wanted to
do were so big, that it ended up

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feeling a little bit impossible.

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What's the next step?

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Where do I start?

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Well, the business stuff was hard.

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So I did business courses.

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When I would see the people that
I had been in the business cohorts

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with, and I saw that they had like
a kajillion followers, part of me

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wanted to see that as proof that they
were meant for this kind of work.

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And I wasn't.

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And obviously that's not true, but...

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That is issue four.

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Compare and despair.

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When in reality, it is a lot
more complicated than that.

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When we have this innate sense of worth.

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It's easier to see
bullshit for what it is.

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I had days of clear vision and
days shrouded in real pain.

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The pain that can lead to a little bit
of self pity and you feel me ,right?

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I'm a tenacious entrepreneur.

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With the chaotic neutral
attachment pattern, some days.

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And finally for the first time I
was seeing my attachment pattern,

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really getting in the way.

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I would make great strides forward,
then I would freeze and retreat.

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I knew what I wanted to do with my life.

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And I knew I wanted to fulfill my purpose.

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Those people in my business cohorts did
the things that they were supposed to do.

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They posted on their Instagram
and they did lives and made

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videos and offered services.

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Out in the open.

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To everyone, and they gained
followers and they gained traction.

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They gained experience, and I'm sure
it wasn't all cookies and success.

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But you see what you want to see.

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The real problem wasn't the one
that I was actually worrying about.

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I wasn't seeing what I wasn't doing.

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I saw the ways in which I
was letting myself down...

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the massive amounts of scheduled posts and
Instagram lives, I felt I should be doing.

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But what I needed to do
was reevaluate my life.

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My gifts, my focus, my skills.

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When I describe myself as chaotic
neutral, and a tenacious entrepreneur.

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It was true.

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But so is this.

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Something I saw clearly when
I thought about it was this.

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I've had a long life of lessons.

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I've lived through pain and
suffering that has made me tough and

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burnished bright like glossy marble.

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All of the whipping of life
has been like a buffing cloth.

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My life shines, and it shines bright.

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Even the armature inside of this
sculpture might be jenky and

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made of cheap wire and duct tape.

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But at this point, there are so
many layers of love and life, and

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insights and learnings, that I
can hold my own as a work of art.

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I am strong.

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And I am capable.

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And I've literally never done
the things"the right way".

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I'm a rule breaker.

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I have the heart of a peaceful anarchist.

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I hate rules for the sake of rules.

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I hate following the crowd or arbitrary
"You have to do it this ways".

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To be clear, I'm not a full
anarchist, more of a, that rule is

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dumb, so I'm just going to pretend
I didn't hear it- type person.

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So ,it's not about personal
freedom, but righting wrongs.

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I don't see the value in upholding
punitive, punishing, hateful,

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hurtful laws, just because somebody
put their stamp of approval on it.

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It's a tiny digression, but I stand by it.

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So much of my life, I
have felt like an outcast.

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The one who didn't belong.

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The black sheep, the lone Wolf.

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The wallflower, the weirdo.

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I felt like every time I met
someone, I stuck my foot in my mouth.

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And that is true.

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I could give you instances,
but they're like, Embarrassing.

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And that's not what we're
talking about right now.

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So as for the outcast
thing, it's not really true.

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I was just with the wrong people.

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I'm not too much.

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I was just too much for them.

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And side note.

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If you feel yourself feeling like
you are too much, then I would

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advise you to look at your circle.

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Maybe they just can't handle
that big, beautiful you.

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The way this story was unfolding in
my life was circuitous and winding,

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but I began to see a through-line
that I had completely missed.

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Which is this.

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So if I'm a Renegade.

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And a rule breaker.

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A weirdo.

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Why was I trying to do things the
way that they want me to, or the way

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that business models say you should?

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I mean, that worked for them, but I'm me.

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So whenever I imagine the best version
of my life, I was being me, all of me.

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Wild ,free, untamed, authentic.

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And making a life for me
,and for my little family.

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Leading by example, being
my whole brave self.

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That me plays by my own rules,
thinks with this weird brain,

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and dances, wherever I want.

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And I always have, and I'm so sorry, mom.

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I know the supermarket dancing was
a lot and you don't like people

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looking at us, but, couldn't help it.

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So.

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Certainly I don't have
to follow the rules.

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I never have.

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I never will.

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And then there's that fear?

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What if I never make money or I'm shunned?

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Or I fall on my face?

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Or I end up in the poor house?

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Well, I would say doubtful.

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I guess we'll see.

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But, I think you want that too!

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I think we all want to live out
our wild dreams on our own terms.

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So, why don't we just do it?

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The old ways are toppling.

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The gatekeeping of the Piscean age.

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Has been dying out for a long time coming
to an end, and the Aquarian age has been

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setting up the freedoms for new access.

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And we all agree to
play this game of life.

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And I really do believe that.

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Collective consciousness keeps
the ball rolling and time ticking.

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If enough of us believe
we can change the world...

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can't we?

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Won't we?

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The structures that were in
place to keep us quiet and tame

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got shaken up with the pandemic.

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When we were all at home
and had time to look inward.

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Many of us saw that we were
supporting systems that were

00:21:23.600 --> 00:21:25.730
not in line with our values.

00:21:26.660 --> 00:21:27.680
We woke up.

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After any huge awakening.

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We see ripples and echoes
of it from then on.

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It's not linear or perfect.

00:21:38.660 --> 00:21:43.010
But it moves forward always
more forward than back.

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The country didn't go back to hats and
gloves after the hippies Fucked shit up.

00:21:50.840 --> 00:21:55.610
They left more freedom and openness
in their wake and opened up a vein

00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:58.370
of consciousness that echoes still.

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Try as they might.

00:22:01.130 --> 00:22:03.710
You can't stuff the
genie back in the bottle.

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So, yes, I'm going to try to do things
a little differently this time around.

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Because when I'm in my
truth, I'm in my power.

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And so are you!

00:22:18.530 --> 00:22:22.010
This has been the she
who is seeking podcast.

00:22:22.730 --> 00:22:26.870
And it is the love child of me,
Meena Melissa Leigh, and all the

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views, ideas and thoughts are my own.

00:22:29.900 --> 00:22:34.190
And I would love, love, love if you
would come over and find me on Instagram

00:22:34.250 --> 00:22:40.820
or Tik TOK@shewhoisseeking, and if
you enjoyed this episode, please share

00:22:40.820 --> 00:22:43.010
it with someone who might like it!

00:22:43.070 --> 00:22:46.190
It would be greatly appreciated!

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And if you are the people who
were in Australia or Russia or the

00:22:53.450 --> 00:22:55.730
Netherlands or somewhere else, cool...

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I'm seeing you on the
map and it's so exciting.

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Send me a message.

00:22:59.360 --> 00:23:02.210
I would love to give you a shout
out, or even if you live in a totally

00:23:02.210 --> 00:23:03.680
normal place and you want to shout out.

00:23:03.970 --> 00:23:05.750
send me a  message over an Instagram.

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And, um, I'll give you a
little call out at the end.

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And the music is the beautiful song,
Snake River by Siren and the Sea.

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And please remember it's up to you to make
good choices about your life and health.

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And I am so rooting for you.

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And I love you.

00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:30.380
And I want you to go in peace and power.

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Victory to the Goddess.

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And Blessed Be!

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If you're still here, this is for you.

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I was afraid to let you see me.

00:23:47.120 --> 00:23:49.370
The magnitude of my scheme.

00:23:50.180 --> 00:23:52.940
How big my wings were in that show.

00:23:54.170 --> 00:23:57.020
What a big role I had written for myself.

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It's spanned books and books of journals.

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Written in different inky voices.

00:24:06.350 --> 00:24:08.600
Angry elated, haunted.

00:24:09.410 --> 00:24:11.000
But I pick the best parts.

00:24:12.140 --> 00:24:14.210
And I knew the meat was in the story.

00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:17.900
The framework pinned
down and now fleshed out.

00:24:18.950 --> 00:24:21.320
With what I was hoping was wisdom.

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That's the thing.

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You can't get a sense of it.

00:24:26.840 --> 00:24:31.370
I put it on like the emperor's
new clothes and walked on stage.

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Where they dapper?

00:24:34.250 --> 00:24:35.240
Was I stunning?

00:24:36.260 --> 00:24:37.850
But only You know, what You see.

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For me, it wasn't the show.

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I just wanted, to for once,
say my lines out loud.