The CMD-Z Show

How do you know when it's time to switch things up in a creative business? The industry is ever-changing and we are all currently in a period of transition. So what does that look like for your business? How do you know when to evolve? How can you overcome the fear of trying something new? And how do you choose to face it all?These are all big questions and probably too big for one podcast episode, but we tried to answer them anyway this week on The CMD-Z Show. And after you listen to our deep dive, you can check out Things By Things, the new Made By Things sister project, at

What is The CMD-Z Show?

Ever wish life had an undo button?

The CMD-Z Show, hosted by Matt Vojacek and Shelby Hagerdon, seeks to provide answers to the big questions that hound creative minds at night. With a new guest each week, hear unique perspectives from creatives on running a business, maintaining your mental health, finding your voice, and more. Presented by Made By Things — this is the CMD-Z Show.

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