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<v Speaker 1>Well today Paul finally comes out with it.

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<v Speaker 2>As he is trying to defend his authority and apostleship,

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<v Speaker 2>he finally comes out and says, Okay, fine, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to know, I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell you he's been hitting at this for a while

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<v Speaker 3>and finally he's just going to drop it all on

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<v Speaker 3>us in these fifteen verses. So he's Chris and I'm Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we are supposed to do a draft because our

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<v Speaker 2>listeners are.

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<v Speaker 1>Only Super Bowl only just very very close.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's right to the Super Bowl, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are filming this just to be candid. This

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<v Speaker 2>is way back in December, so today's December twenty ninth.

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<v Speaker 1>We're filming this, that's right, So it's not even the

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<v Speaker 1>first of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>However, our listeners are going to be listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>sometime like end of January. So keep in mind that

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<v Speaker 2>if we make this prediction, we are weeks behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we had to say.

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<v Speaker 3>That, Oh I don't think so. I think that you've

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<v Speaker 3>already got some clinched teams. So it just just be

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<v Speaker 3>just be you know, courageous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we're supposed to draft who we think is

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<v Speaker 2>going to the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's okay, So we

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<v Speaker 2>may draft somebody who's out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean that's the whole idea behind the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Not everything's guaranteed in the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But what I'm saying is I don't want I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want. I don't want anybody at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>January to think, Okay, aren't they aren't they goofy, don't

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<v Speaker 2>they know the record?

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<v Speaker 1>Well so so anyway, so stick with.

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<v Speaker 4>Clinched teams then you know they're in the playoffs at least.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, let's do our draft.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do three teams each, okay, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do rock paper scissors One two three?

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<v Speaker 1>Shoot? Ready, right, one two three? Shoot? Oh that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>First, so he gets it. I had I had scissors,

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<v Speaker 3>he had rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So I'm going to go with the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Good because that left the team that's going to win

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<v Speaker 3>the Super Bowl, that's the Bills, you think, so oh yeah, absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right then and then my next draft on.

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<v Speaker 1>My team is the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 4>Really yes, So I'm going to choose exactly the opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the forty nine Ers are going to

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<v Speaker 3>knock off the Vikings, you think so, I do, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't think that. I think the Vikings

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<v Speaker 3>are fraudulent.

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<v Speaker 2>Team wow wow, well do your friend down Cousins isn't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be happy about that prediction.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I didn't say his son was yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, and then I'm going to go with.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go with the Chiefs. Oh see, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like the Chiefs either.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done. I'm done with the Chiefs. Chiefs need to

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<v Speaker 3>be done. Okay, So what are we at now? Is

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<v Speaker 3>this my third pick?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's your third pick.

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<v Speaker 4>It's my third pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think, I know you're gonna pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, the Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>So so, by the way, I can almost guarantee that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what I'm saying is, by the time people listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this, they're like they're like, they're like, dude, they're out.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, would it be funny if if at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of January, we're talking about this in December

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<v Speaker 2>and they're they're in yeah yeah, yeah, maybe that right,

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<v Speaker 2>drinking the blue kool aid.

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<v Speaker 4>You never know?

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<v Speaker 3>So well, I do know, I know for sure that's

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna happen. I just did to be funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, the ones to watch the fun uh AFC

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<v Speaker 2>would be the Lions to watch, and then the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>I think would be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think I think the Bengals have a legit shot.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest with you, I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why I thought you were gonna choose.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what okay. Anyways, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think another fun to watch in the NFC would be

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<v Speaker 2>the Dolphins, right, that was a really interesting game, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>just recently, and then Jags, I think Jags.

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<v Speaker 3>So football is always fun, and especially you know, once

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<v Speaker 3>you get to a playoff situation, it's like a whole

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<v Speaker 3>new season and so you know, it's a one and

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<v Speaker 3>done kind of a thing, and you know, those things

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<v Speaker 3>are fun to do, fun to pay attention to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I usually like the grilling and all the or

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<v Speaker 3>dervs and snacks centered around the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we mentioned this in a service and the fall kickoff.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to let everybody know that currently right now,

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<v Speaker 2>being December, we have one more week left in my

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy football League four and I'm actually in the championship

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<v Speaker 2>for the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>And so am I and that's in my league in

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<v Speaker 1>your league. Yeah. The funny thing is I'm in your league.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the other it's the Church League, the good league,

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<v Speaker 3>the league that's really hard to win at is the

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<v Speaker 3>league that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're no, no, no, hey, I'm in a twelve team

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<v Speaker 1>league in the other league.

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<v Speaker 4>You're in a twelve team league in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>Of what I'm saying is they're both legit.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, the only difference is the other league

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm in is a five hundred dollars cash prize.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so if I win, it's a five hundred our

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<v Speaker 1>cash prize.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm really super open and I have one week

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<v Speaker 2>to go, and I'm forty five points ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>The Heritage the Heritage League, you get a super Bowl

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<v Speaker 3>trophy and a diamond ring. It's a fake Diamon ring,

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<v Speaker 3>but a great, big, giant super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually looks fun and it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I'll probably win that this week, just so

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>At least I'm at least I'm not lasting that.

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<v Speaker 4>Least all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So the things we do, we the diversions that we

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<v Speaker 3>distract ourselves with, right.

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<v Speaker 4>This is fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Mostly what it does in the office is it just

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<v Speaker 3>creates a lot of trash talk. Everybody walking around harassing

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<v Speaker 3>probably need this fire a few of these people. So uh,

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<v Speaker 3>as as Chris said at the beginning, this is where

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked about it.

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<v Speaker 4>We kind of set the table a few times.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Paul's going to start bragging about his his record,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's going to start bragging about his you know,

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<v Speaker 3>his achievements, those kinds of things. So if you notice

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<v Speaker 3>through this whole book, he talks for a minute about

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<v Speaker 3>false teachers, and then he talks about his track record,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he talks about a couple of things at

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<v Speaker 3>the beat they need to crack, and then he goes

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<v Speaker 3>back to his track record and false teachers.

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<v Speaker 4>He kind of does.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's almost like his his style of talking to

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<v Speaker 3>the cre is to give you a little bit and

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<v Speaker 3>then to back off and change the subject for a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>and then to give you a little bit of that

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<v Speaker 3>and back off and change the subject for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of just pounding them over and over and over

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<v Speaker 3>from start to finish and proving that he won. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm going to give you some bad news.

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<v Speaker 3>But then go ahead and digest that while I talk

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<v Speaker 3>about something else. And I'm going to give you some

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<v Speaker 3>bad news and digest that while I talk about something else.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of what he's doing here. So now, finally

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<v Speaker 3>this is where he drops the bomb, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, these super apostles, as we were talking about yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>they're in here. They're willing to collect money from you,

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<v Speaker 3>they're willing to have prestige among you, but they haven't

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<v Speaker 3>paid any of the price. So if they want to

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<v Speaker 3>brag about their achievements, let me tell you about my achievements,

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<v Speaker 3>right right, And so it was. He's frustrated with the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing. He's embarrassed that he's doing it, but he

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<v Speaker 3>feels it's necessary.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, So here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>In verse sixteen in chapter eleven, he says again, I say,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I'm a fool to talk like this,

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<v Speaker 3>but even if you do, listen to me as you

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<v Speaker 3>would do a foolish person while I boast a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Such boasting is not from the Lord. But I'm acting

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<v Speaker 3>like a fool. And since others boast about their human achievements,

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<v Speaker 3>I will too. After all, you think You're so wise,

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<v Speaker 3>but you enjoy putting up with fools. You put up

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<v Speaker 3>with it even when someone enslaves you, takes everything you have,

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<v Speaker 3>takes advantage of you, takes control of everything, and slaps

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<v Speaker 3>you in the face. I'm ashamed to say that we've

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<v Speaker 3>been too weak to do that. But whatever they dare

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<v Speaker 3>to boast about, I'm talking like a fool again, I

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<v Speaker 3>dare to boast about it too. Are they Hebrews? So

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<v Speaker 3>am I are the Israelites? So am I are the

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<v Speaker 3>descendants of Abraham? So am I are they servants of Christ?

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<v Speaker 3>I know I sound like a madman, but I've started

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<v Speaker 3>doing far more. I've worked harder, been put in prison

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<v Speaker 3>more often, been whipped times without number, face death again

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<v Speaker 3>and again five different times. The Jewish leaders gave me

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<v Speaker 3>thirty nine lashes three times. I was beaten with rods once,

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<v Speaker 3>I was stoned three times. I was shipwrecked once. I

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<v Speaker 3>spent a whole night in a day adrift at sea.

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<v Speaker 3>I've traveled on many long journeys. I've faced danger from

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<v Speaker 3>rivers and from robbers, and I've faced danger from my

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<v Speaker 3>own people, the Jews, as well as from the Gentiles.

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<v Speaker 3>I face danger in the cities, in the deserts and

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<v Speaker 3>on the seas, I face danger from men who claim

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<v Speaker 3>to be believers but are not. I've worked hard and long,

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<v Speaker 3>and during many sleepless nights, I've been hungry and thirsty,

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<v Speaker 3>have often gone without food. I've shivered in the cold,

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<v Speaker 3>without even enough clothes to keep me warm. Then, besides

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<v Speaker 3>all this, I have the daily burden of my concern

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<v Speaker 3>for all the churches. Who's weak without my feeling that weakness,

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<v Speaker 3>who has led astray? And I do not burn with

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<v Speaker 3>anger if I must boast, I would rather boast about

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<v Speaker 3>the things that show how weak I am. God, the

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<v Speaker 3>father of our lord, Jesus, who is worthy of eternal praise,

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<v Speaker 3>knows I'm not lying. When I was in Damascus, the

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<v Speaker 3>governor under King Ratus kept guards at the city gates

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<v Speaker 3>to catch me. I had to be lowered in a

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<v Speaker 3>basket through a window in the city wall to escape

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<v Speaker 2>There it is so, there's once again, you know, Paul

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<v Speaker 2>has this way of throwing down the supreme example, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know he's certainly qualified to do so. If there

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<v Speaker 3>doing here. It's fine. This is what they do to

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost incomprehensible to us. In our culture. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Columbine shooting. Goodness, it was like what mid nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>were somehow interested in people who believed in God. And

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<v Speaker 2>father wrote a book called She Said Yes, and he

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<v Speaker 2>actually loaded from Denver the twelve crosses that were actually

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<v Speaker 2>at the funeral with all the notes from all the

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<v Speaker 2>other students that were still on the crosses. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we had fifteen hundred students from you know, from Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Midwest who actually were able to just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of walk and read all the notes. It was very heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>very somber. And then Cassie Bernall's father spoke, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Where they were they were in the library and they

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<v Speaker 2>were looking, they were pointing the guns of people and

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<v Speaker 2>saying do you believe in God? And the kids, depending

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<v Speaker 2>on their answer, they would get shot. And then they

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<v Speaker 2>said yes, she would get shot, and and they said.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in God? And she paused, and she

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's just this idea of like, you and

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<v Speaker 2>I have absolutely no idea how we would respond in

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<v Speaker 1>And none of us you know, face.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know our we don't have to measure our faith,

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<v Speaker 3>But Paul did, Yeah, well, you know, this is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the paradox of faith, and this is one of

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<v Speaker 3>she chose that's right, right, right. So for us, what

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<v Speaker 3>in that moment. And so the more you be convinced,

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<v Speaker 3>Just just like Paul said in the previous chapter, Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 3>been afraid, but man, it's worth it. So then he

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<v Speaker 3>that happen. You know, God's goal for us is not

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<v Speaker 3>to protect us from every single problem. God's goal is

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<v Speaker 3>for us to become more and more like Jesus and

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<v Speaker 3>until the day he decides to reward us and promote

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<v Speaker 3>it'll all makes sense, It'll all be worth it. I

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<v Speaker 3>think of the you know, I've talked about this a

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<v Speaker 3>lot on the podcast, the different people that I've met

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<v Speaker 3>around the world, you know, through the Timothy initiative as.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard a story just recently a guy in Vietnam that

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<v Speaker 3>of plant churches, and it was people in the village.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't government stuff. This is just people in the

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<v Speaker 3>and they threatened him a few times. Finally they begin

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<v Speaker 3>But he came away going, what am I doing that

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<v Speaker 3>even my mother and my sister are threatened by the work.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, all I can do is trust that

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<v Speaker 3>I think, man alive, Do I have that kind of guts?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I have that Christian? Because in his mind, who

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<v Speaker 3>else is going to say anything? It's in a community

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<v Speaker 3>where there's no other Christians. So the only way to

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<v Speaker 3>get the gospel to these people is to go through

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<v Speaker 3>the suffering in order to reach the people that are

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<v Speaker 3>necessary and that has been the story of Christianity for

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand years. We have the extreme luxury of living

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<v Speaker 3>in a country that has religious freedom. It's beyond comprehension

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<v Speaker 3>how incredible this luxury of religious freedom is. But it

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<v Speaker 3>also tends to make soft Christians a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I think that we have to choose to be strong,

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<v Speaker 3>otherwise we will be you know, we will just naturally

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<v Speaker 2>you meet those people and you're like, You're like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>And so for two thousand years, when we see when

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<v Speaker 3>Thank God that the people in the you know, five

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<v Speaker 3>now it's our responsibility to carry it with faithfulness. And

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<v Speaker 3>if God was good to them and carried them through

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<v Speaker 3>the struggles, he'll be good to us and carry us

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<v Speaker 3>through even though it's a little bit of fear, even

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<v Speaker 3>though we're not very good at it. He's going to

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<v Speaker 3>do He's going to do the work in us. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's the big picture of these three four chapters.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's so interesting that you said you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like garbage, you know, and then you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it inspires you and you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>like them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about you said that, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I I feel like garbage all the time, Like like

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<v Speaker 2>I when I when I I.

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<v Speaker 3>Have self assurance in the strengths finders than so I

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<v Speaker 3>never feel like garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, like, what I mean. I remember being

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<v Speaker 1>in the hotel, like when I was in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked to this guy and he's, you know, sharing Christ,

446
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<v Speaker 2>and the government calls and threatens his daughters.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and I go.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the hotel and I'm like, I remember one

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<v Speaker 2>time being in Buffalo Wild Wings and I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>God was saying pray with this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I almost didn't, right, I end up doing

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<v Speaker 1>it right.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are times where I don't do those things

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<v Speaker 2>sure where God says, hey, bring up, bring up God

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<v Speaker 2>in this conversation, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid I'm afraid to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>There are times where I quite literally brush God off

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<v Speaker 2>if I because I'm trying to justify it, like is

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<v Speaker 2>this really from God? Or is this something that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like maybe it's too much, too much spicy pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think this is a it's a spiritual muscle, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I really do. The reason why it's easy to not

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<v Speaker 3>do it, the reason why you feel like, oh man,

464
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<v Speaker 3>I feel like because I can't lift this heavy weight.

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<v Speaker 3>If Arnold Schwarzenegger at his peak, back when he's mister

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<v Speaker 3>Olympia or whatever, mister you know universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that dude could walk up and pick up you know,

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<v Speaker 3>weights that you and I couldn't pick up with both hands.

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<v Speaker 3>He can pick up with his little finger back then,

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<v Speaker 3>right right, Well, that doesn't mean I'm garbage because he

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<v Speaker 3>can and I can't. It's that he did the work

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<v Speaker 3>to get there and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, now he had some genetic advantages and all those

477
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<v Speaker 3>kinds of things, some certain gifts. But if I would

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<v Speaker 3>buckle down and over the next six months or the

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<v Speaker 3>next year, if i'd work hard, I bet you I could.

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<v Speaker 4>Lift fifty pounds more than I lift now. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 4>so I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's the same thing spiritual courage and spiritual effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a spiritual muscle. You have to work it.

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<v Speaker 3>So when when you were challenged to speak to that

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<v Speaker 3>guy or to pray for that guy in Buffalo, wowings, Yeah,

486
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<v Speaker 3>just do it. You do it now, you lifted that weight.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like working out today. And you do that often

488
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<v Speaker 3>enough and eventually you will be ready for the heavy persecution.

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<v Speaker 3>So the people who succeed at are the ones who

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<v Speaker 3>do do the consistent work. The reason why Paul was

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<v Speaker 3>so strong, was because he had so many He just

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<v Speaker 3>give us a whole list of all the big workouts

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<v Speaker 3>he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, you do have self assurance. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. You're you're you're the coach, you're the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like Chris May, right, Chris may is like.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do it.

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<v Speaker 4>He's our trainer, right, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying, yeah, I get it, but I'm referring

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<v Speaker 2>to all the past failures when I didn't get him

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<v Speaker 2>go to the jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, right, But but yeah, you're right, it is it.

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<v Speaker 4>Is positivity too. Oh we can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, everything you're saying is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I realized that it's all potential, it's all you know, practical,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's all those things too.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why he gives it to us. Says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I went through it, you can go through it, you

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<v Speaker 3>can make it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Sure, that's why guy gave us these lists.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, let's just not brush past the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he says five different times, the Jewish leaders

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<v Speaker 2>gave me thirty nine lashes. I mean, you know, forty

515
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<v Speaker 2>lashes was illegal, because forty lashes.

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<v Speaker 1>Was considered lethal.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So just in case our listeners you know, don't

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<v Speaker 2>know this. So Jesus was actually given thirty nine lashes

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<v Speaker 2>right and right before, you know, on Good Friday when

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<v Speaker 2>he was you know, taking to the cross.

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<v Speaker 4>And they said when he was done, he didn't look

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<v Speaker 4>like a human, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so here's Paul saying, wait a minute, that happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me five times. And that's only one of like

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen things that Paul mentions.

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<v Speaker 1>Just one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those five alone would have been like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Three times he was shipwrecked, right. You know, I have

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<v Speaker 3>a friend whose names Kujo. He survived a jet crash

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<v Speaker 3>in the Democratic Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>Because his name is Kujo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yea, yeah, Kujo means boy born on Monday, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, which is funny. But that's an amazing story.

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<v Speaker 3>He survived a jet a crash, a jet crow while

536
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<v Speaker 3>he was going to preach. But Paul says, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>was in three shipwrecks and actually I floated around in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Water for a day and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That's incredible, just incredible, incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So so Paul has you know, basically dropped the hammer

543
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<v Speaker 2>on this and then he's gonna move on and he's gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pick up tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about the thorn in the flesh, which is also

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<v Speaker 2>a common phrase in church world.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna find out what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think this is this chapter twelve is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be super relevant for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we will hopefully see you then on the

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<v Speaker 1>bubble guys.

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<v Speaker 2>H