You’ve worked tirelessly and achieved the pinnacle of what is humanly possible long before turning 30. Then what? What measures success when medals fade into memory? Are we more defined by expectations—our own, others’—or by the choices we make every day? When staring down burnout, is stepping back quitting, or preserving oneself? Olympic bronze medalist swimmer Natalie Hinds shares with Sonja and Jamie her powerful journey from Midland, Texas—where she followed her older sister into the pool and kindled a love of swimming—to the international stage. As one of the few Black girls in her community sport, Natalie forged a new path for herself and others to follow in her wake. But this success came with intense pressure, ultimately leading to burnout. After time away from competition helped her rediscover her passion and clarify her goals, Natalie returned at the top of her game. Now half a decade later and leading a life largely off the blocks, she has a wise perspective on the connection between teamwork and leadership, as well as the value of prioritizing mental health and wellbeing. Natalie’s story is an inspiring reminder that success isn’t just about medals—it’s about embracing the journey, finding balance, and leading with authenticity.
What is Are We There Yet??
Are We There Yet? is about recognizing, defining, and building pathways toward a more sustainable working future. How can we collaborate with others in a way that brings authenticity and durability to our projects and relationships? What tools can we leverage to communicate productively towards a shared goal? What can leaders do to shape where we’re going, and how to get there? Hosts Sonja Ernst and Jamie Hardy are two humans on a quest to understand just where we’re headed, in monthly conversations with pioneers, professors, artists, and experts in the fields of science, technology, placemaking, coalition building, AI, and so much more. Whether you're a business leader, a technology enthusiast, or simply curious about the future of how we do things, this podcast is for you.