Vincent: So I'm looking for something around me
because literally it's just dark around me.
I'm sort of turning around seeing if I
can spot something.
And of course, what I spot in the distance is
a tiny speck of light.
The moment I look at it, It grows larger and
I'm being drawn to it.
And it's like, I'm running towards it at
the speed of light.
Rod: My guest today is Vincent Olivier.
Welcome to the show, Vincent.
Vincent: Thank you very much for having me as a guest.
It's my pleasure and my honor to be there.
Rod: I understand that you had an NDE or was it
several NDE's some time ago?
Would you like to give us a little bit of background and
tell us about what happened?
Vincent: Yes, certainly.
I had a near death experience in 2018, January 2018.
But perhaps before I explain that near death experience,
it's worth mentioning Giving you a bit more background
about my life because that near death experience was
my fifth encounter with death, and I had reached
the point At which I was thinking that death was
actually chasing me and there was something wrong with me
because I was surviving a re encounter with death as well.
So perhaps I'll start and I'll give you like a brief
summary of my childhood and how it led to that near
death experience in 2018.
I was born in the early 80s and childhood.
Nothing particular, aside from moving countries at a
very young age, my parents moved from France to Africa
and the first 10 years of my life were just marked perhaps
by two recurring dreams and a very early encounter with
death when I was just a few weeks old and my parents
were driving to see my grandparents and I would I
Be meeting my grandparents for the first time and they
had a car accident.
Uh, nothing major.
Uh, there were no injuries and so on,
but it's just like any, you have to think back in the
eighties car safety wasn't as good as it is today.
And as a baby, you know, I was in a little cradle.
There was no, not even like, you know,
baby seat or seatbelt.
So I literally flew inside the car and bounced inside it.
And of course my parents were a bit worried that
something has happened to me, but I was perfectly fine.
I guess babies were quite malleable, you
know, at that age.
Um, so in a way I met my grandparents at the police
station where they were just like recording the accident.
Um, but that was my first encounter with death.
I have no memory of it.
It did nothing special, specific.
To me, as far as I could tell at the time, um, the strange
thing at that age is before we moved to Africa, as I tend
to have lots of memories of the first few months of my
life, which is unheard of.
Every time I did research about it, uh, scientists
are always saying, no, no, you always have a memory
from the age of three to four onwards.
But not really before that.
So I do have a lot of memories that I check with
my parents when I was a kid.
So I remember that, you know, we were living in
suburbs and it was this big tall concrete buildings
and it was the eighties.
I remember that guy wearing like a leather jacket and
it was pink, uh, Mohawk and, uh, or green Mohawk.
And my mother would say, Oh yeah, that was at the park.
We had like a few, well, we, we labeled them punks,
but it was like more, you know, rock and roll fashion.
It's not in a bad way.
Uh, French people say punk.
And, um, so yeah, lots of memories like that.
And then the memories do vanish.
Whereas I moved to Africa and they come back around the
age of three to four indeed.
Um, and then I had two recurring dreams
when I was a child.
My first dream was I'm an adult and I'm being
chased by five to six guys.
Uh, literally they're running after me.
So I'm trying to escape and it's kind of a
big city environment.
I get to a dead end.
I just have the time to turn around and I know that
they're about to kill me and there's no escape for me.
And I'm thinking really hard.
I need to escape that situation.
They pulled out guns and they fire right away at me.
And I'm seeing myself elevating and I'm
thinking, yeah, great.
I'm escaping them.
And then I realized that they're still shooting
my dead body and they're checking my dead body.
So imagine you're a child, you're five, six years old,
and you have that dream that constantly comes back.
It's just quite violent in a way for at that age.
I couldn't make a lot of sense of it.
It was really freaking me out.
And it made me more panicked about the idea of death.
And the other dream recurring dream I had was more around,
um, it's more an analogy, I guess, but it was like a big
rock going down slope and that big rock is actually
very light, not heavy at all.
As it goes down the slope, it becomes tinier and tinier and
heavier and heavier as well.
And I think that was just an analogy for maybe spirit
world to a more condensed human experience, perhaps,
but again, as a child, I could not make any sense of it.
I tried to talk to adults about it, but they could
not figure it out for me.
So those, those were coming back all the time.
And if you fast forward to around the age of 10,
um, maybe I should, should just add that by moving to
Africa, um, I guess, you know, a bit about it in
Australia as well, but, uh,
there were a few dangerous animals, snakes.
And of course that did not.
That did not do much to alleviate my fear
of death because,
Some of them could be deadly.
Um, and of course, you know, there have been
a few encounters where I found myself face
to face with a snake.
Oops.
Um, but yeah,
fast forward to around the age of 10, I had I had headaches
for quite a few weeks,
unexplained as well.
And I had back to back emergency
surgeries at the time.
And no one really knew where they came from, but
I had my appendix removed.
And a few weeks after that, actually I was flown back
to France on emergency.
Cause I had like
a brain tumor and so I had to undergo surgery.
Uh, that's was the last time I saw Africa,
which I love by the way,
because the nature and so abundant and life was
very simple over there.
Um, but yeah, I'm being moved back to France.
I have to spend like a month in a hospital, um, but I'm
receiving really good care and I have no symptoms or
problems whatsoever are recovered very quickly.
Nobody is really able to explain what was the origin of
that, but it's being treated.
And here I am back on my two feet and enjoying life.
And I think my family did a really great job of never
putting too much emphasis on what had happened.
So it happened.
We, we live in the present and we have to look
forward to the future.
So let's just move on with life.
So as a teenager, I was more of a shy teenager,
I would say, but I gained confidence through my
teenage years by practicing a lot of sports and, around
everything was sort of like going back to a normal life.
And around the age of 17, I'm involved again
in a car accident.
Uh, this time it was a bit more violent.
I was a passenger and the driver lost control of the
car and we basically skidded to the other side of the
road, hit like a grassy bank, the car flipped on
its roof, went the other side of the road, and was
literally kind of flat, flattened where I was sitting.
I have, I, my last recollection of that
accident is as we're about to hit the, the grass.
And I just remember crossing my arms saying,
no, I'm thinking that's it.
I'm dead.
That's the end.
It all goes blank.
And then I wake up and I'm faced with the sky.
And for some reason, I'm thinking, Whoa, I'm about
to fall into the sky.
And I'm just laying down on the side of the road.
And the reason for maybe that thinking process was,
I could see a tire and that was because the car was
turned upside down and I was just laying behind the car.
So firefighters were around and paramedics and so
on, just checking on us.
Again, I was perfectly fine.
I had a quick check in hospital and with the people
around the car, nobody was injured, which actually
was kind of a miracle.
I saw the pictures of the car afterwards and where I was
sitting was completely flat.
So from the bonnet, you could say, you could tell like there
was a continuation of the line instead of having the, you
know, the, the windscreen and the, and the roof, it was just
flat, completely flattened.
And I'm quite a tall guy because I'm six foot four.
And I was thinking that's how we escaped that.
I cannot explain.
And it was at that age that it really hit me that
there's something where.
It's like I'm surviving.
I've got all these episodes with death.
I'm surviving it all the time.
I'm not really sure what it's meant to be.
And I remember one day talking to one of my grandmothers
because I've got a really good relationship with my family
and both sets of grandparents.
I had really profound conversations with
both my grandmothers.
I have to thank them for that as well.
And I said to one of my grandmothers, How is it
that some people seem to die for a lot less that
what I've gone through?
And of course there are people who go through a lot
more and a lot tougher and harder situations too, but
nonetheless, it seems that for me, I've been facing death
four times already yet I'm still here, you know, with all
my limbs, all my capabilities, um, a lot of scars on my body.
Sure, but nothing major.
And the answer she gave me stayed with me because
she replied, well, son, you've yet to do what
you came here to do.
And I replied, okay, so what is it?
And she said, well, it's for you to figure out, but you
know, it could be as simple as, you know, meeting the
law of your life, having children, running your life.
Sometimes it's all it does to make a difference.
But I said, yeah, but why, why did I need to
go through all that?
This still doesn't make sense.
Even if I have a purpose in life, you know, what's the
purpose as well of facing death and being completely
freaked out of possibility of dying every single day.
And she said, well, that's going to be
part of your story.
You know, it probably will make you more resilient
mentally tougher if in case you have to go through
like a difficult situation.
And so maybe I was 18 between 18 and 20 years old when we
had that conversation, but life goes on, go to uni.
Start a job, a career and so on.
So my twenties are absolutely fine.
I get to my early thirties and this is when we
getting to the episode of the near death experience
that happened in 2018.
At the time, I had nothing to complain about my life.
I live in a nice house in the United Kingdom.
Um, I drive a nice car.
I'm married to the love of my life.
Life is great, except that professionally, I am extremely
unhappy with my career.
I find I've got too much pressure.
I don't like where I'm at.
Um, I've started to study for a complete
different career path.
So I was essentially in digital marketing and data
management, and I wanted to move to being an osteopath.
And I'd already done like some qualifications to
be a massage therapist.
And I was doing like the later part of the studies to bring
me to the osteopath level.
So my days are pretty busy because I'm really
busy at work, lots of pressure, and I'm also
really busy in the evenings.
I'm studying at the weekend, um, in the weekends.
I'm studying if I'm sometimes I have to
go to classes as well.
So I'm constantly studying or busy and also.
Deep down, I feel like I should press the pause
button for some reason.
I'm doing too much.
My partner has some concerns as well.
And it's, it's one of those catch 22 situations.
I'm like, well, but if I leave my job, I'm losing
the income that is providing for my osteopath training.
But if I stop the osteopath training, I'm also losing
that potential career change that would potentially make
me happier in his life.
So in hindsight, rather stupidly, I stay in
the same situation.
Um, the one evening we were at the restaurant
with my wife and I feel out of nowhere, sharp
sensation on my right flank.
Um, like a stabbing sensation is the best
way to describe it.
I've never been stabbed, but that's the
way we described it.
And we, I think like maybe it's the food or there's
something, or it's this.
My stress levels are too high.
So we get back home.
I barely sleep all night.
I'm in absolute pain.
It's like cycles of increasing pain.
So we do call the emergency services early in the morning
and they advise that I go to the nearest hospital to
be checked, which we do.
And over there, the doctor looks at me, does
a quick checkup and says, probably indigestion.
You were at the restaurant yesterday, um, you
had Thai food, nothing wrong with Thai food.
I love Thai food.
It's just unfortunate.
It happened to be Thai food.
So she ruled it as a poisoning, if you like.
I go back home.
I cannot go to the office.
I'm just like, really still in agony, thinking I will
get slightly better because I do receive some medication.
Um, but they don't do much.
Friday goes past.
It was a Thursday evening, I should say.
So Friday goes past, still pain.
Saturday, still very painful.
And this is where I'm really starting to see no
improvement to my situation.
And I remember saying multiple times to my wife, I'm done.
I'm dying, darling.
I feel like I'm dying.
Like my body is literally shutting down Um, You fast
forward to the Sunday morning, in the early hours of the
morning, and we have to call the emergency services again.
This time, they decide to send an ambulance, so
half an hour later, maybe, I do have a paramedic in
my house, and I'm laying on my sofa in the living
room, whilst the paramedic is doing some checks.
Um, He does give me painkillers, which he
does inject through IV.
And he also gives me like a mask and instructs me to
take a few deep breaths.
And apparently these are medical gases of some sort.
And so I start inhaling, um, the, the, the gases
and I do feel a really relieving sensation.
And I also feel like, you know, the fluids
of the painkillers trickling down in my blood
veins and in the body.
It's kind of this warm and pleasant sensation.
But for the first time in more than three
days, I'm able to relax.
And the next moment I find myself in a black void.
There's around me.
I don't even have a memory of what my last vision was.
I'm just there floating in a dark void.
I'm not thinking anything at that moment.
If anything, I'm more relaxed and even relieved.
Um, after a short while, I.
Thinking, what am I doing there?
So I'm looking for something around me
because really literally it's just dark around me.
So I'm sort of turning around seeing if I
can spot something.
And of course, what I spot in the distance is
a tiny speck of light.
The moment I look at it, It grows larger and
I'm being drawn to it.
And it's like, I'm running towards it at
the speed of light.
And as I approach that sphere of light, that's becoming
larger and larger, I see, or I distinguish four beings within
that light, and I can only see the shadows, so the light
is so bright that I see dark silhouettes within the light.
And I'm the same time, what something really
strange occurs to me, which is I do recognize
those people instantly.
And I know I have not seen them in a very
long while and I'm so happy to see them again.
I cannot remember their face to this day.
I just knew that I knew them from somewhere,
but that somewhere was definitely not this life
I'm living as Vincent.
And at the same time, this thought of my wife occurs
to me and I'm thinking back as my life and I'm realizing
that, hang on a second, it's lovely to see you, but if
I'm seeing you, it means that I'm in the process of dying.
And that's not what I want.
I'm way too young for that.
At the time I was 33 years old.
Um, I still have a lot to live.
I still want to achieve a lot more.
So no, I don't want.
I literally don't want to die.
And I remember the words I said, it was a mix of French
and English at the time.
It just, what came to me and it really came from
the heart and excuse the language, but I just replied,
no fucking way, pa maintenant.
And pa maintenant literally translate to not now.
Um, and, uh, so yeah, no fucking way, pa maintenant.
And it seems like the beings within the light were not
offended in the slightest.
And the next instant, the light just zooms out from
me and I feel like I wake up in my physical body.
I'm back in the living room in the house I was
living at at the time.
My wife is touching my shoulder, um, very
gently pressing on it.
And I look at her, she looks really panicked on her face.
And I'm totally confused about what has just happened.
And she asked me, are you okay?
I look at her and say, yeah, I'm okay.
But the first reflex I have is, hang on a second, what?
What has just happened?
It's so weird.
So I tried, I grabbed the mask again because it
had fallen on the floor
and I inhaled a couple more times.
I'm trying, you know, almost in a scientific
manner to replicate what has just happened.
Nothing happens.
I don't go back to the dark void or anything.
And then the pain comes back because literally for
a short moment, I was pain free and the pain in my
body comes back and it's so strong at that moment.
So hard that I regret my decision.
Thinking, actually I was much better when I was on the other
side because I was pain-free.
Um, it was very soothing.
It was very kush, kushy, I would say, you know, very,
very light, very comfortable not being in a physical,
in that physical body.
And so, yeah, I try to, to replicate.
Nothing happens.
And the paramedic at that moment, I did
not notice that I.
What had happened because he was, uh, turning
his back to me, taking notes on his notepad.
But basically, he comes back to me and says, Hey, we need
to rush you to a hospital.
It's really bad.
So I'm being rushed to a hospital.
And this is something that then happens is I forget
about the NDE and what has happened, which I've
listened to countless people recounting their NDEs.
I've yet to find someone who said, I've
forgotten about my NDE.
I think I had to focus so much on what was happening next
that I just pushed it aside.
So being rushed to hospital, they do a few tests, and very
quickly doctors come to me and say, well, um, you know,
when you had your appendix removed back in the days,
I say, yeah, 24 years ago.
Yeah.
Um, do you remember if he was like an emergency case,
or if he was taken in time?
Um, I said, I just can't remember.
Um, you know, I was a child, so.
Basically I went with the flow.
My parents would know, but right now is perhaps not the
best time to give them a call.
And, uh, so he said, well, listen, it probably
was dealt with too late.
And I think you have some complications due to that.
So you might have to undergo surgery, but let
me tell you, it's, uh, quite a complicated one.
But we'll see what we can do.
So I said, can we avoid surgery?
So, well, we can try, um, procedures to minimize surgery
and let's give that a go.
You're in good health.
You're in good shape.
So we can give that a go.
Anyway, I'm being moved to a hospital room and later
that day, um, a surgeon comes in and he says right
away, Oh, I can take you to theater right now if you want.
And we, you know, I can operate you.
And I remember I had a sensation, like a voice in
my head saying, say, no, say, no, you can't accept that.
So I'm pushing back.
So I don't want to have surgery, sir.
You know, it's, I want to try other non invasive
methods if possible.
And he's really insistent and pushy, but, you know,
well, I have time now.
I have space now.
So, you know, for me, I just, it's a couple of
hours, maybe, and we're done.
I said, no, no.
I literally have had a couple of surgeries in my life.
I know what it's like.
I don't want to replicate that.
As he left the room, I look at my wife and I said, I
didn't like the look in the eyes of that person.
There was an energy or something I didn't like.
And she said, same, I just didn't like the vibe.
So I spent the night in the hospital.
The day after that surgeon comes back again and still
offers me to go for surgery.
And I still push back and we try non invasive method.
Nothing changes.
And a couple of days later, another surgeon comes in.
This time, we really gel.
We've got the same, you know, view on how we should
conduct things and so on.
So I'm being, I undergo surgery over there and it's
a It's quite a heavy surgery because to give you a quick
medical explanation, my, when my appendix had been
removed, the scar tissue had not healed properly, perhaps
due to the brain tumor.
Maybe the body was busy with a lot of different
healing, um, and it created what we call adhesion
inside the abdominal wall.
And basically what it had done is it had like over time
stuck my intestine on my abdomen wall and
because my intestines could not move freely,
they basically created a knot on themselves.
And it's one of the worst situations.
So it's not nice what I'm about to say, but basically
the surgeon opens you.
Opens your tummy, takes it out, uh, and ties
it and puts it back in.
Um, and funnily enough, for a few weeks after surgery,
I could really tell that the intestines were not in the
positions they were before.
It's a strange feeling.
I don't know how to explain it any better,
but that's how it was.
Anyway, I leave the hospital, and I've got this long
road to rehab in front of me because literally any
abdominal surgery, that's quite, um, Intensive.
I could, I couldn't lift like a kettle or a cup
without feeling the pain.
I couldn't close the curtains.
I mean, there were many things I couldn't do in the
first few days after surgery.
So I was sleeping a lot and healing also emotionally
and psychologically from what has just happened.
And it took me a few months to understand.
I was going on the whole this, all this time.
Sorry.
I was always thinking, well, there's, I just knew that
nothing could happen to me when I was in hospital
as if because I had said no to dying, although I
did not remember it fully.
I knew that I would sail through the operation
and the surgery and the rehab, um, the, the rehab
went absolutely fine.
I recovered a bit faster than what is normal.
But what I learned a few months after surgery, when
I met with my surgeon again, was the morbidity rate for
that type of surgery is 40%.
So it's two in five people don't make it through.
And he explained to me at the time that because
I was young and fit, he wanted He wanted to do
more, uh, but he did not.
He said I just literally did the bare minimum
to get you back on your feet, on the basis that
I could tell you were in very good physical shape.
So I knew you would recover quite quickly.
So the road to recovery is about 18 months.
Uh, the first six months you recover about 80 percent and
then it's like 10 percent the next six months and 10 percent
the following six again.
So what really changed after the surgery, once
I got a bit more fit.
Better physical health and energy was, for some reason, I
really started to push myself to doing more, within, you
know, my physical capabilities at the time, of course, but
I was like, Oh, I need, I need to enjoy life more.
So I need to change job because I'm not
happy in my job.
And would you have it?
A job opportunity just came, which was absolutely perfect
for me, required a bit more training, but I did that
and I finished my classes on osteopathy, remotely most
of the time and I passed it.
And so I was just like, wow, options are
opening again for me.
2018, I would always tell to people, for me, was actually a
great year, because aside from January, February, which were,
you know, not really good month, the rest of the year,
it seemed like all the doors were opening again, as if I
was back into a state of flow.
However, my fear of death was still present.
Deep down, I was fearing that the episode I just
had could happen again, or something similar.
So for a few months, I was a bit wary.
Every time I was leaving the house, I was like, wow,
what if I'm going too far?
Even though I was pushing myself, I was like, you
know, I'm, I'm on that train, I'm four hours away
from my house, from my home.
What if I've got like a health incident right now
in the middle of the train, you know, um, those thoughts
would be there constantly.
And it did really change.
When a few months after the surgery, out of the blue,
my mother sent me an article about a surgeon who was
fascinated by near death experiences and who had
partnered with a hypnotherapist to try to
understand what was happening and he had developed a
protocol to put people in a specific state of hypnosis
that would or could, according to him, be quite close to
experiencing an NDE with none of the physical ailment
or the dangerous situation that goes with the NDE.
Because very often I don't recommend anyone to have
a near death experience.
It means that you're about to die and there could be dire
consequences as well on you physically or emotionally.
Um, so as I read that article, the memory of the NDE I
experienced in January 2018 floods back to my memory.
And at first I'm thinking, I just had hallucinated
all this because of the medical gases I was inhaling.
I was tired.
I was under a lot of physical pain at the time.
So it was just a hallucination, but reading
what the writer of the article went through,
seeing the a white light, meeting with beings on
the other side and so on.
I was just reminded of what had happened to me.
Still having a bit of a scientific mind I was like,
maybe it's just hallucination.
So that evening I go to my, to my wife and I said to her, you
know, on the Sunday morning when we had a paramedic in
the house before I was rushed to hospital, do you remember
anything strange happening?
And her face literally goes white.
She says to me, um, I've never mentioned it to
you, but on that day I thought you were dead.
So I reply, how so?
And she proceeds to tell me that as I was laying on
the sofa and the paramedic was turning his back to me,
taking notes, I was using the mask and all of a sudden
she saw my hand drop and my body completely collapsed.
And she said, your, your eyes were completely lifeless.
That's why I kneeled down and I touched your shoulder
and you were not reacting.
And it took you a couple of seconds to just like, sort
of like have kind of almost like a body shake and come
back and you're almost jolted.
And you looked at me very confused and I thought
like, well, you are just temporarily passed out, but
I had no idea that you had this whole experience on the
other side because you never mentioned it, um, before.
So the two stories corroborated and so
essentially we could say, well, you're like my witness
for what I've just lived.
And from there on started a very long journey of a,
being a lot more comfortable with death because that
was alleviating the fear of death almost instantly.
Hey Life continues after death or our consciousness
continues after death.
That is brilliant.
That's such a relief, actually.
Now I'm free to live my life the way I want to.
And then I started yet to do a lot of research, um, onto
indeed near death experiences.
learning that it happens to roughly 2 percent of
the world population.
Um, and I even did a bit of research yesterday about it,
and now it seems like it's 5%.
So that number seems to be going higher.
So perhaps a lot more people are willing to share
their experience as well.
And then we
reconnecting with, well, the nature of reality as we
live it and the possibility that, you know, we have
free will, we are spirits that do come here for an
experience in human form.
Um we also have the possibility to life the
way we really desire to.
And from there on, it seems to, for me, um, life has
been better and better and better through that
understanding that actually there's nothing to fear.
Death is just a, a continuity or a passage to all true
nature and potentially the nature we You know, we were
in before being humans.
And for a short while, I would also say that, yeah,
I would argue that you might still go through a disease,
an illness, an accident.
So death could still be a painful process in some
instances, but deep down, with knowing that on the
other side, what awaits is your true nature.
So whilst we're there as humans.
I might as well make out the most of the experience for
myself and for everybody else.
So I reconnected with a lot of principles and I'm
not going to start opening about them because we could
talk at length about all those different principles.
But one thing I would add though, Is a lot of people
on interviews, um, I've heard a lot of people who have
NDEs come back with a sort of a gift or something that
they did not have before or a change in the life.
For me, I didn't think I come with back with much
of a gift, but certainly a deeper understanding and
the willingness to share that story because when I
was younger, there were a few things that I knew would
happen in my life, and one of them being, this would
happen around my teenage years, one of them being
you need to go live in an English speaking country.
I didn't know why, but there was this strong
desire to go live in an English speaking country.
I happened to have a professional opportunity
to move to the UK when I was young, which I did,
um, and I reconnected to more stories like that.
And one of the ways I reconnected to one of these
childhood memories, desires, and knowingness was through
doing hypnosis sessions.
And during one of those, one of these hypnosis
sessions, I met, um, sort of a spirit guide, if you
like, and that spirit guide said, well, remember when
you were a teenager, you had that knowingness that one
day you would be writing a book and you always thought
that this book would be inspired by experiences
from your own life.
And I remember saying yes.
But I thought that this would happen when I'm much
older, like in my sixties, because I've lived a lot.
And this is when I can tell about life.
That being said, don't wait for it.
Write it now.
And it was like, okay, but where do I find the
time having a full time day job to write a book?
And also I need, you know, not to do too much, not
to burn myself out again.
And the being said, don't worry, you know, just
do what you have to do.
And just like that, to tell you that quick story.
Um, a few months later, I, through my new job,
which was now more oriented towards, legal
advice, advice, and so on.
I did some qualifications and I went to my
employer at the time.
And I said, um, now that I have these new qualifications,
I should be paid more.
And literally there's quite a big salary gap.
But I'm proposing you one way to do it.
So would you mind keeping me on the same salary, but
I'm working one less day a week, and I will use that
one day to write that book.
And it was a bit of a bold statement to make because it
could go one way or another.
Worst case scenario, it was no, and that's fine.
Uh, but it was, yes, absolutely.
Well, a bit of negotiation on the salary side, of
course, but essentially I got one day free a week.
So, and I started to write This very novel that, um,
go here, which I've titled The Man Who Kept Dying.
Vincent Olivier is a pen name.
Vincent is my real first name.
Olivier is just a name of my great grandfather.
And this novel was just my way of putting into
a story everything that I'd reconnected to.
In terms of my understanding of the spiritual world, the
spiritual concepts that we can apply here as humans,
as well as integrating as part of the stories, some
of the events that have taken place in my life.
So the car accident I've mentioned to you when
I was 17, it's a whole chapter in the book.
I've got chapters about lucid dreams, which have
happened to me a lot.
Chapters with encounters with snakes and so on.
So it's a mix of story, but it, it is really inspired from
my life at the end of the day.
And so I published it earlier this year.
And so maybe I managed to bring that idea that I
would publish a book when I would be in my sixties,
but like two decades earlier.
So this is it.
Rod: Okay, thanks for sharing that story, Vincent.
So I've got a couple of questions for you, um, just
while you're in the void,
so this is a very common theme that I hear in NDEs, the void
and the pinprick of light.
That you, that you go towards.
So before you saw that light, was there any, did you have
any other sort of sense like, could you see anything?
Was there any, could you hear anything?
Could you feel anything?
Was there a temperature?
Was there any, any sort of sensory input at all?
Vincent: So it feels like there was no sensory
input or nothing at all.
As I said, I had no thinking process at the
time for a short while.
There was just me and my presence, if you like, and
the, I was thinking nothing, I was feeling nothing.
However, I could say there was just one sensation and
it's a sensation of warmth, literally, like being really
cuddled by a very warm energy and nothing else that,
than that, at least for me.
And.
Yeah, that didn't last very long for me.
I know that there are people, there are people who have
like grand NDE's, mine was very short in a way.
I guess it could have been a lot more.
That's what I'm trying to explore in the novel.
What if I had gone and met with a being?
What would they have taught me or told me?
But no, to answer your question, just that
warm sensation of being enveloped in that.
A lot of people mentioned like, you know, a
strong sense of love.
I didn't feel it particularly.
Imagine the vibration of her being very jerky.
It was just like flat, calm, absolute calmness.
Yeah, very zen.
Rod: And the four beings, I think you mentioned
they were faceless, so you didn't have any faces.
Were they short, tall?
Anything more
Vincent: Different sizes, different sizes and shapes.
I could say I had the sensation that
one of them was...
Someone deceased in my family, uh, although I said,
you know, that I felt they were not from this lifetime,
but I had a sensation that there was one that definitely
we had a family bond.
So perhaps from another lifetime, I'm not sure.
A feminine presence for sure.
Uh, one was shorter, more feminine presence.
The other three were quite tall.
And I could not really tell if they were more
masculine or feminine.
Um, yeah.
I don't think all of them felt human in their appearance.
again, the memory is quite fuzzy, but I could
remember on the right side was, yeah, someone was
smaller, feminine energy.
The other three were more, perhaps maybe a bit more
masculine, but taller, more elongated limbs.
But the one on the far left to my vision.
I just cannot remember exactly this one.
I didn't feel as much, but perhaps that presence
was standing a bit more in the background.
I'm not certain, but yeah, that it's a really
strange sensation.
I would liken it to, if someone were to knock on your
door and you open the door and you physically, you never
seen the person, but you know, you've seen them before and
you've known them from before.
And you're like, Oh, we have that connection.
Don't we?
Oh, yes, we do.
Um, it's, it's strange thing.
Absolutely.
Rod: Tell us about your lucid dreams, because I've
had a few of those, and how do you, is it something
that you deliberately tried to have occur, or
did it occur naturally?
What happened there?
Vincent: Um, I don't know of.
You got into lucid dreams.
Did you try a method or something when you were
younger or was it just because for me, I had to
try a method in my teenage years and then they keep
happening spontaneously.
And I'm not really controlling when they happen.
Rod: Yeah, it's kind of a bit of both, so I...
Was reading somewhere that, um, to, to get,
to getting focus.
The first step is realizing that you're
in a dream, which hadn't happened for a long time.
And then I had a few times where I was like, Oh,
I'm actually dreaming.
And then at that point, then focusing on either my hands
or the ground, bringing something into focus.
And then that sort of then caused my, you know,
consciousness to come fully, fully conscious
during the dream.
So the lucid dream then started.
Vincent: I followed a similar method because I
was, yeah, I don't know.
I was 13, 14 years old.
And with some of my friends, we had that
conversation, the discussions about lucid dreams.
And one of my friends said, Oh, I'd love to do that.
Apparently you have to really think.
In the evening before you go to bed, um, I want to
have a lucid dream just before you fall asleep.
I want to have a lucid dream.
I'm going to take control of the dream.
And for me, it happened quite quickly.
Literally, I did that for three nights.
And on the third night, I managed to
get into a lucid dream.
And I remember Um, the settings were, oh, the
background was a bit ludicrous because it was on
a military ship and I was like, almost like a secret
agent trying to navigate my way through the stairs without
being, uh, seen or noticed.
And, at one moment I realized that I'm in that dream and
I'm dreaming just exactly as you've just highlighted.
That's the moment where I say actually I don't like
being on that ship and first thing I would like to
remove all the people on the ship because I want to make
sure you know I'm not being chased by anyone and all of
a sudden it feels very quiet as if there's no one around.
So I'm walking around and then I said I want to change
the environment I want to be on a nice sunny beach
and boom I find myself on a nice sunny beach and And
then I realized that, wow, that's really nice to be able
to change the environment.
And I think I got a bit too excited during the dream
about the potentials that I could do that I woke up.
And then I tried again every evening for two weeks
and nothing would happen until it happened again.
And then I've stopped doing it, but they could happen.
Sometimes I realized that I'm dreaming and I realized
that I am in a dream.
Um, and yeah, in a, in the novel, there's one entire
chapter, which is called a lucid dream, because it's
a dream where for the first time in one of my dreams, I
saw myself as not Vincent and my physical self there, there
was a mirror in an elevator and I saw myself as an alien.
And I looked nothing like I look right now.
So basically I was Very bulky,
I have completely different clothes and I was that
green alien with very square face, um, tiny ears,
tiny nostrils, very large.
Uh, white eyes.
And I remember like completely shaking and thinking, almost
panicking at the vision thinking that's not me.
That's not me.
How could, how can I see myself like that?
And of course the mirror was reflecting, um, or mirroring
every one of my movements.
So it'd be like moving my hands and seeing the exact
same thing in a mirror, except he was not me.
I remember at that moment, my breathing becoming a
bit more, accelerated.
And thinking, I'm going to wake up and focusing back
on the dream and saying, don't wake up, don't
wake up, don't wake up.
Calm down.
And then I calmed down and I get closer.
I step closer to the mirror.
And then I really check myself like, oh,
wow, that's fantastic.
Uh, and so.
I've had plenty of lucid dreams ever since, um, that,
that those teenage years.
It's quite fascinating when you get to do this.
And also I personally receive a lot of information
through my dreams.
So sometimes I'm sitting in a room.
With other beings, I can never remember their
face, but they, it's like there's a drawing board.
And very often they're showing me a lot of different things.
And I remember at one point early in my spiritual
rediscovery or journey of rediscovery, um, there were
all these mentions of the new earth, if you know,
we're shifting dimension, we're getting to higher
frequency, this and that.
And I remember asking.
Before going to sleep, you know, what's all
about the new earth.
And then I'm sitting at that table with presence
or that spirit next to me.
And he or she explained to me what it was all about and
started to show me drawings on the table and the drawings
are sort of illuminated.
So they are live.
It's not like a simple sheet of paper where you
see drawings just like everything's alive and
animated and explaining to me that essentially,
yeah, there will be a shift of consciousness.
The plan is that, you know, some people will not want
to go through that shift.
So we remain in, you know, their frequency.
Uh, other people will move to a higher frequency, but
it will be very seamless.
People won't really notice in which frequency they are.
You just notice that things around you do change
faster and for the better.
I was like, wow, that's cool.
So I did the drawing when I woke up of what has,
what had been shown to me.
It's one video on my YouTube channel about that.
Dreams are very interesting.
I can receive a lot of information through dreams
and meditation as well.
But if I don't have the time to meditate.
Essentially, I think I revert back to dreams.
Rod: So you've, you've mentioned your book and,
um, you also mentioned YouTube channel.
Is there any other way that people can get in
touch with you if they want to ask you questions,
if you're open to that?
Vincent: Yeah, absolutely fine.
So if you go on a YouTube channel, there is an email
address, which you can reach me at, uh, otherwise
just leave a comment.
I've got an Instagram account as well.
They both name, uh, the, the man who kept dying, but you
can type Vincent Ollivier, the man who kept dying
on YouTube or Instagram, and you should find me.
So please message me through, um, those channels.
And that's perfectly fine.
If anyone has any question, I will answer.
Always happy to share my story and, uh, and yeah, I
think it's, uh, an important journey of reconnecting
with our spiritual nature that we're all going
through at this time.
And it's nice to see more and more people sharing
those experiences and also.
I think the capabilities, you know, technological
capabilities to share these experiences so easily.
I'm sitting in France right now, you're
sitting in Australia.
We have this conversation.
I think it's fantastic, the times we're living in.
Rod: It's almost surreal sometimes, isn't it?
It's easy to forget what's actually going on.
Uh, and do you have any final message that you'd
like to leave people with before we wrap up
our conversation today?
Vincent: There could be a lot of messages,
but perhaps I'll try to summarize it very quickly.
So the, the first one, I would say something that
was taught to me by, one of the senior directors at the
first company I worked at.
And I asked him for a bit of advice in life, whether
professional or personal.
And he said to me, well, it's something I received
from another mentor, but I'm going to say to you.
It's not about what you do in life.
It's about how you do it.
And I would change it slightly from more of a
spiritual perspective.
And I would say, it's not about what you do in life.
It's about who you are when you do it, because everything,
as I've understood, come from a state of being.
So the more you are in you close to your true
nature, the more you will see things aligned to that
true nature of yourself.
And as I've seen, Following my NDE, it seems like I'm
reconnecting more and more to purposes in life that
I was meant to experience.
And I believe that the NDE was really a wake up
call as I was not going in the right direction.
The second thing is, and it took me a long while to
understand that concept, but we are all coming from the
same point of consciousness.
So essentially you could label it as God.
Source.
central point of consciousness, anything.
We all are God, so to speak.
So we all have the same power and capabilities.
We just playing the game and the experience of, um,
forgetting that we are that.
And as a result, that made me realize that everybody
else and everything around me is just a part of me.
And I'm just a part of them, so to speak.
So everything is interconnected.
And with that, I try to, or it certainly has helped me to
have a lot more compassion for everything that's happening to
people around me in the world and so on whilst at the same
time, being able to maintain that capability that to.
See clearly that I've got my own perspective on things
and because I have my own perspective, I don't need
to impose it to anyone.
I can just share it.
If people are willing to listen to it, that's fine.
If they don't, that's fine as well.
I think it's quite important for me to mention that because
I think in life, there's always a lot of sometimes
of friction or battle.
I'm thinking that way.
Therefore, you should think the same way too.
And I'm like, not necessarily, you know, some people are
free to have their own perspective as long as
they don't try to impose it forcefully on somebody else.
But at the end of the day, we all part of the same
consciousness and we all are the same consciousness.
So as much as I can, I try to treat people as if
I was speaking to myself or dealing with myself to
have a lot more compassion.
Rod: Vincent, thank you for that message and
thank you for being a guest on my show today.
Vincent: Thank you for inviting me once again.
I appreciate it.
And, um, it was a really enjoyable experience as well.