Safe Aerospace Podcast

What really happened during the 2024 New Jersey drone wave?

Ryan Graves sits down with AI researcher John Malaska, whose own unexplained thermal-camera sighting led him to investigate the incidents through public records. After contacting municipalities across New Jersey, John assembled approximately 13,000 records—including police reports, dispatch logs, emails, body-camera transcripts, drone telemetry, and government intelligence reports—and used AI to identify patterns within the data.

Our conversation examines reports of possible electromagnetic interference, unidentified radar returns near airports, activity around reservoirs and other critical infrastructure, the difficulties faced by local police, and the gap between official assurances and what responding agencies documented.

Whether these objects were drones, misidentified aircraft, UAP, or a combination of all three, the records reveal a serious weakness in America’s ability to understand and protect its increasingly congested low-altitude airspace.

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What is Safe Aerospace Podcast?

What are pilots really seeing in our skies, and why aren't we talking about it?

The Safe Aerospace Podcast brings together military aviators, commercial pilots, air traffic controllers, aerospace professionals, and policymakers to tackle one of aviation's most pressing and least discussed challenges: UAP (unidentified aerial phenomena) in controlled airspace.

Hosted by Former F/A-18 pilot, Ryan Graves from Americans for Safe Aerospace, the podcast goes beyond the headlines to explore what UAP encounters mean for flight safety, national security, and the future of airspace transparency. Each episode features firsthand accounts from credentialed professionals, analysis of emerging policy developments, and conversations with the researchers and lawmakers working to bring scientific rigor and institutional accountability to a long-stigmatized issue.