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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun in practical
ways. Hey, everybody, my name

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is Chris and I'm Jeff, and
we're the Bible Guys. And technically we

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just sort of given that. We
just gave that name to ourselves. We

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sure did so we couldn't agree on
a name for our podcast. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, well you know, it
just it just depends on what was

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available in a lot of ways,
right, and Jeff and Chris's show of

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fun. It's inappropriate. Yeah,
yeah, it was. Well, goodness,

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gracious, what was that? You
just reminded me of Joey and And

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come on, friends, who's the
girl that Janie? We said, Joey

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and janis is day of Fun?
There you go. Any Friends fan would

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love the fact that I just said, you just pulled it out. I

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know that you you don't watch Friends. So anyways, we had a hard

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time finding a name for the podcast. We did, we did, and

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then we were trying to think,
well, what is this show about.

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Well, it's about the Bible,
and who are we We're just a couple

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of guys. Yeah, that's how
it came out. Yeah. Yeah,

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So people think we named it because
we think we're experts about the Bible,

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right or not? What just a
couple of guys talking about the Bible and

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fun and practical ways. Yeah,
that's right, in fun and practical ways.

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There you go, says the ruling. Well, hey, Jeff,

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today, Desiree has asked us to
do a segment called mail bags. Mailbags.

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Okay, mail bags is from Angela
B. And she said, you

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both possessed such an impressive depth of
knowledge, and I continually learn from you.

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What are some of the most particular
or absurd facts? Peculiar? Oh,

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it is peculiar facts you can share, Angela B. So, first

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of all, thank you Angela B. For writing in how nice Yes?

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And she wrote in nice things yes. So it doesn't say impressive depth of

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knowledge of the Bible. It just
says impressive depth of knowledge. So what

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is peculiar or absurd? How about
this? I know you'll know the answer

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to this, okay, but our
listeners may not. What is a rhinoceros's

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horn made out of hair? Yes? Hair, It's made out of the

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same stuff that your hair is made
out of, which is crazy because it

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could take a car out yeah,
and it's made out of hair. Yeah,

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that's incredible. Well, I've got
one. Did you know honey never

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spoils? Yes? I did know
that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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honey never spoils. So there's honey
that's like three thousand years old and you

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can still use it. Yeah,
that is incredible. Crazy. Yeah,

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three thousand years old. That's that's
something i'd be leery. Yeah, I

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would try it. I know you
wouldn't try it, so funny. What

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are some peculiar facts that stand out
in your mind? Okay, I have

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one. Did you know that bananas
are technically berries? What that's true?

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Look it up? Is it really? Yeah? Yeah? I was just

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in Tanzania and there's all these bananas
hanging around and I said, uh,

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I wonder what kind of fruit of
bananas? I mean, I know it's

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a banana, but what is it? Is it? And one of the

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guys goes, oh, bananas are
berries. I was like, no,

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they're not. I looked it up. Bananas are berries? But did you

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know that strawberries aren't berries? Does
this blow your mind? Yes? I

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know what is the strawberries? I
don't know. Oh, well that's not

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a very good fact. You don't
know. Well, let me look it

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up. I'll look it up and
see it. Okay, how about this

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one, listeners, Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, I remember. They're

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fruits. They're just like an aggregate
fruit. And it's because they come from

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a flower like a gotcha right right, So it's no, they're not apples,

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but they come from that that class
because they come from a flower.

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Okay. Well, I think I've
told you this peculiar fact before. But

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again, whenever I say this fact
to somebody knew they have no idea.

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Okay, so you know, we
always use in our English language this phrase.

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We say the whole nine yards,
the whole nine yards? And you

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know where that's from, because do
you remember that? No, you don't

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know this. I don't know where
this comes from. Okay, so check

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this out. You've used it.
Okay, So take a guess if you

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were to guess, where would we
Why would Why do people say the whole

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nine yards? Why? I don't
know. It references something about being complete,

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but I don't know what it means. No, this is this is

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true that you can google this or
actually there's a whole history up behind it.

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In World War One, a ream
of bullets was twenty seven feet long.

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Oh, when they would unload an
entire load onto an enemy, they

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said, we gave them the whole
nine yards. Wow. Yeah, and

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then that is just carried on.
Well that's that's that's a gruesome little fact.

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So well, if they missed,
then maybe it's not it's I guess

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it's about war. But yeah,
okay, I have one more, and

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this is a gruesome little fact.
Did you know that a day on Venus

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is longer than a year on Venus? What you know the planet Venus?

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Yes, a day on because it
doesn't rotate, because it moves so slowly

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around to get all the way around
takes longer than to go all the way

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around the sun. So the sun
right, because a year, as you

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went all the way around the sun. But a day is a rotation on

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its axis. It moves so slowly
on its axis it takes longer for a

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day than it does for a year. Why is that cool? That's one

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of the coolest little weird facts.
So Angela b be, I bet that

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blew your mind. Yeah, no, doubt, isn't that crazy? I

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think I think that's a good one
to end on. You need to end

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on a high note. I know
that's a good one. George Stanza,

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I'm out of here. Everybody who've
loved Seinfeld knows that. So George just

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decided that anytime that he uh you
know, peaks, that he should leave

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on a high note. So you
live in the middle of the middle of

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a conversation and he'll say something.
Every last he goes, well, I'm

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gone, and it just gets up
the leaves. It's so funny. There

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you go. So weird stuff,
weird stuff's rattling around in our heads.

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Yes, right, yes, that's
it. Well those are some weird facts.

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Uh yeah, Well, Angel B
thank you for writing in and also

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if you decide to write into us, we would love to use any of

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your questions or at least consider them, so please you know, info at

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the Bible guys dot com. You
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you can comment on YouTube and respond
and things like that. There you go.

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Okay, Well, now that we
got all the important stuff out of

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the way, we're going to get
into the really important stuff. We're moving

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on now. Moses grows up in
Pharaoh's house in the home of the Princess.

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Yeah, we sort of skipped a
lot here. Yeah, perhaps hat

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Stepsuit's palace. She would have been
raised as a very signif or he would

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have been raised as a very significant
leader, potential heir to the throne,

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maybe even probable heir to the throne. But then later Moses, while he's

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growing up, he goes and sees
and visits to Hebrew people. He actually

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kills a guy. Yeah right,
So there's a there's a slave driver that's

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beating a Hebrew and it just made
Moses mad, and he gets down.

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He fights the guy and kills him
and then buries him in the sand.

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Nobody sees it, so he gets
away. But from this point on then

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he feels like he needs to run, he needs a hide. Eventually,

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I guess they find a body of
whatever. Moses runs and he's hiding out

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in the desert outside of a meeting
because he's afraid Pharaoh is gonna kill him.

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And it's in that context that he
is watching some sheep. And here's

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what the Bible says, says one
day Moses was tending the flock of his

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father in law, Jethrow, not
Jethrow Bodine. It's a different jeth Row.

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Oh really, yes, it's totally
different, different era. Everything good

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to know different era his father in
law Jethro, the priests the Midian.

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He led the flock far into the
wilderness and came to Sinai, the Mountain

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of God. There, the Angel
the Lord appeared to him in a blazing

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fire from the middle of a bush, and Moses stared in amazement. Though

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the bush was engulfed in flames,
it didn't burn up. And this is

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amazing. Moses said to himself,
why isn't that bush burning up? I

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must go see it. When the
Lord saw Moses coming to take a closer

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look, God called to him from
the middle of the bush. Moses,

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Moses, here I am, Moses
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The Lord warned, take off your
sandals, for your standing on holy ground.

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I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the

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God of Isaac, and the God
of Jacob. When Moses heard this,

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he covered his face because he was
afraid to look at God. Then the

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Lord told him, I have certainly
seen the oppression of my people in Egypt.

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I've heard their cries of distress because
of their harsh slave drivers. Yes,

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I am aware of their sufferings,
so I've come down to rescue them

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from the power of the Egyptians,
and to lead them out of Egypt into

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their own fertile and spacious land.
It's a land flung with milk and honey,

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the land where the Canaani, Hittites, Amorites, Parizites, high Bites,

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and Jebusites now live, all the
other Wites, all the Heites.

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Look, the criyer of the people
of Israel has reached me, and I

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have now seen how harshly the Egyptians
abuse them. Now go for I'm sending

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you to Pharaoh. You must lead
my people out of Egypt. But Moses

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protested to God, who am I
to appear before Pharaoh? Who am I

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to lead the people of Israel out
of Egypt? And God answered, I'll

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be with you, and this is
your sign that I'm the one who has

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sent you. When you've brought the
people out of Egypt, you will worship

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God at this very mountain. But
Moses protested, if I go to the

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people of Israel and tell them the
God of your ancestors has sent me to

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you, they will ask me what
is his name? Then what should I

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tell them? God replied to Moses, I am who I am? Say

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this to the people of Israel.
I Am has sent you to me.

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God also said to Moses, or
sent me to you. God also said

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to Moses. Say this to the
people of Israel. Yahweh, the God

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of your ancestors, the God of
Abraham, the God of Isaac, the

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God of Jacob, has sent me
to you. This is his eternal name,

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my name to remember for all generations. Now go and call together all

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the elders of Israel and tell them
the Lord, the God of your ancestors,

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the God of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob, has appeared to me.

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He told me, I have been
watching closely, and I see how the

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Egyptians are treating you. I have
promised to rescue you from the oppression in

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Egypt, and I will lead you
to a land flowing with milk and honey,

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the land where the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Parasites, high Bites,

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and Jebusites now live. You're supposed
to go to fifteen. I was

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supposed to go to fifteen. Yeah, and seventy. Well, I gave

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two bonus versus, bonus versus,
that's right, So we're supposed to stop

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there. Okay, So yeah,
so we're talking about the first part of

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Moses's encounter, he's in the middle
of the conversation with the burning bush.

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It says, the Angel of the
Lord appeared in the burning bush. And

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yet at the same time it says, God says to Moses, I am

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who I am, which we know
is the name for God, right,

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right, So maybe perhaps it was
the angel that got Moses's attention, you

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know, kind of like, uh, the President will now see you,

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right and then and then all of
a sudden, the President walks in.

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So I've always wondered about that,
you know. So almost almost every single

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time that the term the Angel of
the Lord shows up, it's Jesus.

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It's a Christophany. Okay, that's
that's what that is. Yeah, okay,

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So so when it comes up as
the Angel of the Lord, it's

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usually a Christophany. So I think
that christophany meaning it's a pre incarnate appearance

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of Jesus before Jesus was born as
a baby in Bethlehem. There's a number

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of times where Jesus shows up in
the in the Old Testament narrative, and

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this is likely one of them.
Yeah, he shows up well, most

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prominently in the burning furnace, right
with Shadwig me shaking medical that's right,

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the Angel of the Lord. Yeah, so so okay, so that's uh.

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This is a very famous moment because
Moses is, you know, first

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of all, confronted with God himself, which is pretty amazing, and then

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God gives his famous name that he
gives to himself, I am who I

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Am. Later on, Jesus says
this in the garden, doesn't he When

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they come to arrest him and they
say, are you the one they call

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Jesus and he says, I am
right, and he's all fall down.

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They all fall down, and it
says and it says that there was actually

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a significant number of guards. People
believe there might have been up to two

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hundred guards. And then Jesus says, I am, and they fall down

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because of the power of that name, which is pretty incredible. I mean,

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like people gloss over that. I
haven't heard too many sermons about the

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words I am, you know,
being so powerful that they bowl people over.

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And yet this is it. This
is where you know, you know,

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it is first spoken. And and
here's what's really great is that Moses

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and his humility, says who am
I you know, like I'm a nobody.

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I can't. I'm not worthy.
I don't have a big name,

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you know, I'm a nobody.
And then what God says is, hey,

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you don't have to be a nobody
or you don't have to be a

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somebody, because I'm the somebody,
and he says, I'm with you.

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And if you think about it,
that is every single task that God asks

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us to do. Right, So
if God wants to work and let's just

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say, you know, let's just
say it's the smallest of things. And

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God nudges you and says, I
want you to help the neighbor down your

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street in this way, whether it's
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speak truth to them. Heck,
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He could just be helping in that
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well, who am I to do
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to step out? Who am I
to you know, be used in such

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a manner. And then God's response
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to Moses, which is like,
hey, you don't have to be a

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somebody. I'm the somebody. I'm
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That's what he says. Go exclamation
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with you. And so just it's
just a great sermon for us to keep

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in mind that every time God calls
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everything that he's called you with,
right, and his calling is almost always

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to go go to that person,
go with my message. Right. That

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that's usually what God calls us too. So I think it's great when he

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names himself here Moses is like,
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Now, think about this. He's
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he's hiding because he did kill a
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first son, and he has a
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of Israel may or may not have
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Hebrew kid was the leader there,
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and and in his own authority said, hey, listen, God came to

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me. And but he said they're
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some backing. And you want to
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It's funny he's arguing with a burning
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So there's that, right, It's
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a sense that, hey, this
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There's something about that, right when
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we're holy. I think it's important
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so he takes off his sandals,
and then God declares, you know,

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well, my name is I Am. And that term Yahweh is usually translated

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as Lord, right, And there's
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called the tetragrammaton you. Ever,
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what the Hebrews did is they took
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just left in the consonants because they
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the holiest name of God. They
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didn't want to say it, they
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so holy. And so that's where
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here. That then is almost always
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then they would not say yahweh,
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which is another way to say the
word Lord. Right. And so just

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the view of how holy God is
that the Hebrew people didn't feel worthy to

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even actually say the real name of
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up to Moses and go, well, tell him this is my name,

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right, that's really really significant.
It's a huge thing. So I think

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that the respect is great, all
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Jesus, when Jesus says that in
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name that the Hebrews could possibly know. They wouldn't even write it, let

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alone say it right, right,
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so it's interesting if this Angel of
the Lord was Jesus, he was there

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when it was declared to Moses,
and then at the who eventually becomes the

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giver of the law, and then
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the same name. Right. It's
really phenomenalous. It's fabulous. But yeah,

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and that's another thing too, is
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Uh, you know, it's interesting
because I just preached this at our church

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just a couple of weeks ago.
So we just happened to finish up a

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series called the Baddest Men of the
Planet, and we chose some really uh

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you know, awesome men from the
Old Testament, and Moses was one of

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them. And and and as I
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message, I thought to myself,
isn't it interesting? And again we're I'm

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sort of skipping ahead. But but
but so many things that are tied to

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the events of Moses Jesus brings into
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but like the passover is a pretty
pretty big thing, right. Uh,

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you know, the bronze serpent in
the wilderness, right, Uh,

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you know, the I Am moment. There's so many different things. Uh,

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you know the picture, the picture
of releasing from bondage, you know,

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from both physically and spiritually, striking, striking the rock. Yes,

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there's so many things that that that
that are. I mean, Moses was

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foundational to even even us today.
We're connected to Moses in big ways.

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Yeah, Jesus was an incredible reflection
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a hint of Jesus. Right,
So these two go back and forth.

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But Jesus did say at one point
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the law, right, I came
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even see that a lot in the
person of Moses. Jesus fulfilled a lot

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or or expanded a lot on even
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And yeah, so it's it's really
really incredible how God is giving us

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a hint of what's coming through Moses. Yeah, that's really cool. So

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so, uh, Moses is being
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doesn't want to do, and just
like you said, he's if he's the

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firstborn son. It also reminds me
I'm trying to look for sermons in this

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thing. Oh and I started thinking
about I started thinking about when we're fearful,

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when we don't, when we when
we when we have like a shadow

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mission, because we're going to eventually
see that Moses comes out with after all

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his excuses, he's going to say, I just don't want to go right

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now. I'm not sure if we're
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I'm not sure. I think we
I think we're going to read some of

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those, okay, because because really
he doesn't want to go. And I've

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always thought about this. I've always
thought, I wonder if he doesn't want

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to go because of his history with
the palace, right, so he doesn't

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want to go back with the message, let my people go. You know,

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hey, hey, can you do
me a favor? Can you let

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go all of your slave force,
a million people who have built your cities

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and built your statues. Can you
go ahead and just let them, you

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know, go and be free and
just sacrifice all that, you know.

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history of the palace and and all
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to myself, geez, that is
a very very difficult task. And sometimes

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when God asks us to do his
difficult task, it's not even necessarily the

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task that we're afraid of. It's
actually some shadow mission that we have.

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It's some deep rooted fear of like
what will people think of rejection? Yes,

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that's what I'm trying to get to, Right, there's these feelings,

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of these human feelings that we just
don't want to give into. We'll be

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embarrassed if we stand up for Christ. Right, We'll be labeled as unpopular

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if you're in high school a lot
of times. Right. So there's these

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other things that are attached to it
that we can sort of read between the

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lines and place in Moses's story.
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to him, hey, I went
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and seventeen, and this is useful. Then he says, so now go

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and call together all the elders of
Israel and tell them the Lord, the

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God of your ancestors, the God
of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, has

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appeared to me. It's interesting a
lot of times when we feel like God's

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telling us to go, we reject
it and we go, oh, I'm

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not qualified. I'm not a pastor. I don't know enough about the Bible.

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I don't know enough about those things. But God did not tell Moses

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go tell him something you don't know. God said, go tell him what

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you saw, right, And so
one of the greatest things you can do

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is just share the story. So
you are not an expert, perhaps on

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the whole Bible, but you are
an expert on your story, right,

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right, So learning how to tell
your story in the context of God's story

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in you is incredibly important. You
know, I just got back from Tanzania.

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We come into a village it looks
like the Garden of Eden, and

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it was a village that was completely
and totally overrun by witchcraft. There were

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dueling witch doctors that were doing some
really horrible things there, and the people

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were terrified. A woman from several
villages over decided to begin praying for this

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village. She'd go walk through the
village. There are a couple hundred people

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who live there in a beautiful village, but very very dark. And so

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she's walking through, she meets another
young woman named Nancy January. So,

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now this is what six months ago. She leads Nancy to Jesus. Over

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a couple of days and leads her
to Christ. And Nancy then begins to

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have a heart broken heart for her
village. But she's not an expert.

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She's a new Christian, but she
wants to learn how to tell people about

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Jesus. So over the next three
months January February March, the first Lady

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keeps coming back and talking to Nancy. Well, this first Lady is a

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fairly new Christian, she's only been
a believer for eighteen months. But she

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comes and on the third month that
she comes back to meet with Nancy,

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she teaches her the idea that hey, one of the most powerful stories is

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your story. What God has done
in you? What was your life like

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before? How did you meet Jesus
and how did you surrend your life to

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Jesus and what has he done since? So you need to learn how to

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share your story and share God's story. The fact that God paid the price

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for our sins and he offers it
forgiveness as a free gift, and everyone

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who calls the name Lord will be
saved. It was very simple, share

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your story, share God's story.
That was in March. Since March,

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Nancy has led one hundred and fifty
people to Jesus. One hundred and fifty

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people in this village of two hundred
people, all consumed by which doctors and

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demon worship. So when we come
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They feel free. They're telling stories
about how they've been set free from all

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the suppression and it's Jesus that set
them free. And Nancy told us about

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Jesus. Well, when it's all
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Nancy's father came forward and gave his
life to Christ. Another woman from the

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village came forward and gave her life
to Christ. And one of the witch

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doctor ladies came forward and gave her
life to Christ. In the moment while

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I was there in this village,
right, it was incredible. But I

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was sitting there looking at Nancy while
she was talking briefly, and I thought,

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she has really short hair. Well, the only people, the only

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women who have really short hair in
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the same short haircut because of bugs
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And so I got to thinking,
I don't think Nancy's an adult woman.

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So after we're all done, I
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hold are you and she goes,
oh, I'm seventeen. So this

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seventeen year old girl stood up to
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with only the knowledge of her story
and that Jesus saves people, that's all.

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She's not a theologian, and she's
radically God used her to radically transform

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that village. And so I see
this here, and God told Moses go

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and just tell him what you saw. And man, I think the devil

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beats us so many times where we
start to feel like, well, I

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can't share my faith because I'm not
an expert. You're an expert on your

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story. Just go tell yourself,
go tell people what you've seen that that's

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all, and that God can do
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Yeah, that's great, isn't it
great? Yeah, that's awesome.

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Well, hey, that is a
great closing thought because that's our time and

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so hopefully we'll see you tomorrow as
we pick up this story on the Bible. Guys,