The State Between Us

Fritz's old friend, Salvador Ibarra of the new anti-fascist rock band Widows of the Night, joins the show to discuss his childhood during the brutal civil war in El Salvador (1979-1992). Son of a prominent lawyer for the left revolutionaries and unrepentant prankster, Sal and his siblings were witness to the atrocities of WACL-fascist Roberto D'Aubuisson's anti-communist forces. Salvador discusses how his childhood experiences informed his album, Subversives (2026).

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[Content warning: graphic references to war, torture, mass murder, infanticide, and sexual violence]


Tracks from Subversives played in this show [in order with links]
'Black Eternal Night'
'Widows of the Night'
'A Pistol and Wine'
'Death to Tyrants'
'Against the Centuries'


Listen to Subversives by Widows of the Night

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The badass Jennifer Casolo in 1989
Death squad leader and fascist psycho Roberto D'Aubuisson

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Reading: Anderson, Scott, and Jon Lee Anderson. Inside the League. Dodd, Mead, 1986.

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What is The State Between Us?

My name is Fritz McAlinden and this is The State Between Us, the anti-fascist podcast for dark dives into the ruling class insanity and fashy political cultures as well as our defenses against them through mutual aid and building each other up, sharing knowledge, and connecting the disparate voices in our overlapping struggles. Also TTRPGs, Sci-Fi, and other nerd shit. Let's get weird with it!