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Okay, so in our little pre show convo
here, we went down a bit of a rabbit hole.

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Anybody remember Jared Cowan?

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So this started with people that were on
Robita Island, we listed okay Robita,

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Lupal, Muzzin, Murray, Klingberg we'll
see, but then who?

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Frankie Corrado.

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And then the last one that came up was
Jared Cowan.

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So for anyone who doesn't remember he came
over in the

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Dion Faneuf to Ottawa trade.

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He was a ninth overall pick in 2009 and I
believe he suffered a concussion that Took

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him out of the lineup and he didn't ever
play again So he showed up for training

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camp with the Avalanche in 1718 played one
preseason game was cut and then he retired

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so like the curious mind I am I was like,
I wonder what he's doing now and Southey

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Obviously, like, I mean, you know, they
either sell cars or insurance, right?

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That's usually it.

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So I find searching his name Evolution Raw
Dog Food.

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And I'm like, OK, maybe it's just a guy
with the same name.

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And so going through this page, I look.

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There's a few pictures.

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Hard to tell he's got sunglasses and a hat
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It's like, and a sun hat and sunglasses
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Like, what are you doing?

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Just like you don't want to be recognized.

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So him and his wife produce raw dog food
themselves.

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It says here on their website, meet the
owners.

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Both Cassie and Jared are hands on
throughout the process.

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Prepare all the raw dog food, source all
the supplements, package all the raw

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meals, and deliver it right to your door.

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Truly your labor of love.

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So A, shout out to these guys.

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That's a really cool way to transition out
of an NHL career.

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It's got to be a fun thing to just hang
out with all your dogs all day.

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I think it says they have four of them.

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And B, as Sudhi mentioned before we got on
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you've got to order this to have former
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wife.

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show up to your door with dog food.

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And it also sounds like really good food.

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dog food, you can get a selfie and
probably an autograph with that.

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Oh, they also make cat food.

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They have raw meat patties, freeze-dried
raw, dry food, meaty bones, treats and

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chews, puzzles and toys.

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They have everything.

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So this is just the last thing that you
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good for Jared Cowan.

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Yeah, and in no way are they catching
strays here.

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We are totally supportive of this.

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This is awesome.

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Yeah, this was more of just a shock, if
anything.

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Like I had to verify if this is in fact
the same person.

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And I mean, come at me if you can prove
otherwise.

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But everything I've found, this is them.

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They're surprisingly are not a lot of
people with that name.

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Also, Malayne McCollock and Nathan Horton
on Roboto Island.

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Oh, of course, Nathan Horton, who we
traded away and then traded back for, I

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believe, if I'm not mistaken.

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the second time he came to Toronto.

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Oh my god.

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We need to- Oh my god.

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time, you're usually banished the RoboDog.

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And just so everyone's aware, the whole
conversation started because of these

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amazing shirts.

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Anybody who can see the video.

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10 out of 10.

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Joey Ferg on Twitter.

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Yeah, the Miami like island vibes with
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City.

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I was thinking we should make one that's
like, you know, like the names, like

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something and something and something and
something, but just like all the names of

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people on Robo Island.

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See if people can put it together by
looking at the names like, wait a second,

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what are these guys all having?

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Oh, no.

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What does Robo think about this?

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He's like a huge feather in his cap,
right?

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That's something that I guess is never
talked about is like, why don't they ever

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bring Stefan Robita on and ask him about
how he feels about being like the namesake

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for...

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for it.

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Like he had a pretty good career,
whatever.

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But like this is what he's known for now,
especially in like in Leafs Nation.

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Oh, there's young Lee fans that have no
idea who he is or was.

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Or just know that that's the name of the
island.

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Oh, man.

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So I guess assignment America, as they
used to say on AFV, find any retired NHL

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who has an interesting career now,
because, you know, not everybody makes

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millions over the course of their NHL time
and can comfortably retire.

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So see if you can find anybody who's doing
something different now.

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Because, yeah, like every week we dig up.

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Oh, where are they now people that you
never thought about?

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Like you didn't question where they went,
but we're going to tell you.

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New segment.

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We've got to think of a name for it.

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We should almost cut this so no one steals
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Now we're going to just start it will be
the first one.

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So everybody will just everybody will know
that we started it because that's

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definitely how that's worked before.

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Speaking of shirts, though, we have a
bunch of new designs.

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I know I've been talking about this for a
while, but I finally spent a couple hours

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yesterday leading up to and during the
game.

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Oops, I was working on design.

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So there's a couple of new shirts hit in
the store.

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Some things have been talked about for a
while.

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Some inside jokes of this show, if you're
if you're a fan.

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And some just plain old Leafs late night
fun retro style neon merch.

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So yeah, cool stuff.

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And then this show, if you have any ideas
for things or if you want anything dropped

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in there, shoot me a message and I can see
what I can put together.

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Cause shout out to Mikey, Mikey D of.

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Oh my gosh.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm blanking on a show right now.

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I feel so bad.

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Somebody help me.

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I know.

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I need to like cut this and shout them out
properly.

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Fucking blo- Shout out to Mikey DFBleafers
pod.

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There you go.

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for shooting me a couple messages.

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I asked him for some input and he helped
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see shortly.

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So.

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love you and we will properly plug you at
the end of this pod, I promise.

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Fuck me.

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All right.

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So we'll call it the duality of fan.

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We went from like the weirdest, shittiest
start to a game to the strangest comeback

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to the biggest blowout of the season into
back to back games.

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And it showed every side of Leafs Nation.

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So let's talk about that.

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Come on.

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Intro us.

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I'm trying.

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First, Mikey D in our intro.

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Get it together, Johnny Ross.

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FIRED!

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You're never going to host again.

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Okay, so I am not going to beat around the
bush about this.

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I turned off the Columbus game after the
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I know a lot of people also did the same
and there was a bit of a war back and

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forth because obviously the game ended
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ended.

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So let's

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not sugarcoat that.

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You, I'm fucking done with this.

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I'm prepared to talk about it at least, to
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So what is it?

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a Senator's Podcast at that point.

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Oh, God, I might as well.

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But at the same time, Columbus is known
for blowing leads this year.

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They have the most or in the top for first
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scoring first, I think they said they're
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but they're in the bottom of the league
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So obviously they're horrible at holding
onto a lead, but blowing a lead is one

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thing, five nothing to a tie is.

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That's insane.

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Like, I mean, we saw the Leafs score four
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and now five.

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So let's talk about what it means to be
fed up with the team and sticking through

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and, you know, really what that game
tested everybody for.

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So go for it, Sadi.

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I think we're coming from different angles
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I wasn't super frustrated with them in
that game.

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They haven't lost in regulation in a long
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I figured they were due.

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And the fact that they came back in that
game was a huge testament to how they've

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been playing as a team game.

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So I took that as a big win, not a loss.

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Yeah, and look, I turned it off, obviously
not no.

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Like I turned it off after the result of
the first 40 minutes, right?

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Like, I had it playing in my office, and I
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that it was five, three, and I was like,
what the fuck's going on here, but I

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didn't watch the period.

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So I guess where I was coming from is that
time is money.

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Money is money.

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I mean, there are people that paid to go
to the game.

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It's been said on other shows.

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Like it's most people get to go to one
game in their life, maybe like three tops.

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Like if you're, you know, really lucky,
you go to 10.

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If you're working more.

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But like the point is, it's not easy to go
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entertaining experience.

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The team did not deliver a product worth
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Look, I get it.

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They had the dad's trip.

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Ty definitely took them out.

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Like, come on.

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You don't think these guys had a fun night
in New York before they came home after

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that, that back to back like.

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Of course they fucking did, but to say
they didn't have like an experience in

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that game, like the first 40 minutes,
sure, but they were never louder as they

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were in that last 20 minutes.

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That was the experience.

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Yeah, it's...

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I've heard that arena in a long time.

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100%

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and I'm glad that it was loud.

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his 60th goal.

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Fair enough.

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I'm glad it was loud.

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Obviously, it's an insane thing to happen.

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But like there were people leaving and I
guess I'm just trying to say that I don't

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blame people for leaving or turning it off
at that point because of the expectation

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of the product that was delivered.

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Like this is not a team that you expect to
just show up asleep against one of the

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worst teams in the league, allow five
goals against and basically just phone it.

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Like what?

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What are you?

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like this is at least two hours of your
time at that point, like two periods.

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So the entire time that Matthews has been
there, they have historically shown up

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late to every game versus a bottom feeder
team.

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There's okay showing up late and.

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Okay but that first goal you've got Domi
passing it right to Kent Johnson who

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centers it to wide open line in front of
the net who buries it one nothing.

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I'm like that's not a good start but look
shit happens.

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Then the second goal where you have Riley
just la de da throws it along the boards

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like it from then on it was okay.

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Nobody is here.

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There's a difference between like a couple
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team just.

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really not trying.

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Like I get it's shitty Columbus and
they're not the best and yada yada, but

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you gotta try.

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Like, how many games are we into, like,
double digits that they have not lost in

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regulation?

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So even if they did shit the bed in this
game, whatever, it's a bad game, let's

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chalk it up to that.

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But they came back in the third and
showed, like, what this team is actually

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made of.

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I thought it was a huge character win for-
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it was like a huge character moment for
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I don't- I don't get the shitting on it.

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I'm glad that it happened.

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I'm glad that they came back.

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It does show a lot of growth in the team
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I'm just saying that I am defending people
that were like after 40 minutes of

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gameplay of that they went, I don't need
to watch another 20 tonight.

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I have other shit that I can do.

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There's dishes, there's laundry, there's
like, you know,

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There's life and it's like I said, it's an
hour ish of your time, if not more that

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you're committing to it like you got to
spend your time wisely and if the

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entertainment isn't there, I don't blame
people for not sticking it through.

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Like if you paid to sit in the game and
you left that's kind of crazy like I don't

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see the point in spending the money to go
if you're going to leave after 40 minutes,

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but like if you're at home.

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i get sure that's fair meaner

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I've left one sporting event early my
entire life, and it was a

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Marlies-Hershey's-Bears playoff game that
the Marlies were already down.

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I think it was 4-0 and allowed two
short-handed goals in the same penalty.

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So at that point I left, but I won those
tickets.

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I didn't even pay for them.

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So that was a little bit of a different
story.

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think the Penguin game happens without how
that Columbus game went through because

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they bounce back in a certain way.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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Sorry, it's such a Petri dish.

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Like for years, everybody's been saying,
oh, the Leafs aren't any good in the

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playoffs.

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Leafs aren't any good in the playoffs
because you can't outscore your problems

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in the playoffs.

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Now they're not outscoring their problems.

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They're winning tight games, they're
losing tight games.

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So many losses in overtime.

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Oh, but that's not conducive to a
successful team.

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Like Marty says it all the time lately on
Twitter.

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It's constantly moving the goalposts to
fit your narrative, to create negative

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press about the Leafs because it sells.

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I guess there's an element of that because
obviously with the most media around this

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team everyone gets the clicks for you know
Oh, we get to shit on the Leafs But I

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think there's also an element of people
are frustrated and if they don't see

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growth out of this team There's more
frustration right like we've seen year

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after year with the same group no results
in the playoffs So I think people are

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raising the expectations in the regular
season for like I don't care about the

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points I want to see how you're winning
the games

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how you're showing up to these battles.

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Like that's what people are looking for
now instead of just regular season points.

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That game was the growth though.

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They went to the locker room after the
second and said, fuck boys, they looked

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each other in the eyes and they said, this
is unacceptable.

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This is not how we play.

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It's not the team we are.

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And they came out and they got a point out
of it, right?

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They scored fucking five goals in that
period.

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And they tally that afterwards.

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I know, but they parlay that afterwards
into a seven, nothing win against

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Pittsburgh.

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That, those two go hand in hand.

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I don't disagree with that.

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What I'm trying to say is that there's not
negative media around everything.

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We're not changing the goalposts on
everything.

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I think there's more scrutiny on this
team.

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There's more frustration from the fan base
because we've gone through Kyle Dubas now

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his entire era with the team and all we
got was a first round victory.

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I think people are more frustrated than
ever because there's been little change

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roster wise.

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There's been little success difference.

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We're basically.

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there's been like 9 players, minimum,
changed every year.

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on the fringe, right?

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Like we've seen the same core run back.

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It's been the same, the same center of
this team.

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The guys that play 80% of the minutes are
exactly the same.

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Like we've, and we were told like, we're
almost there.

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We're almost there.

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We're almost there.

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We're still almost there.

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We're onto a new GM and all these guys'
contracts are expiring.

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I'm trying to defend the fact that I think
people are more frustrated at this point

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because the clock is ticking.

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Like we're now at the point where we might
lose William Nylander because there's no

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money anymore.

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Like that.

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that whole era might be over where we've
got him on the team at a nice deal.

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Like people are mad and I don't blame them
for being mad.

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And I will say this, Toronto is a playoff
based team at this point.

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The ebbs and flows of a regular season are
going to be hard to swallow.

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Whether you're losing or winning, it
doesn't really matter.

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So you're going to go pretty hard into it.

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But when it gets to playoff, that's when
this team is actually going to show what

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it's made of.

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So until then, the storylines are going to
go up, they're going to go down.

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It's going to be...

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Leafs Twitter is such a toxic place.

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Are they gonna play Columbus in the
playoffs?

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Of course not, because they're horrible.

328
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So does it matter that they're not great
against Columbus that one night?

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No, it really doesn't.

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I'm just, I guess the gist of my whole
thing here is, time is an investment and

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you can spend it however you see fit.

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And if the thing that you were spending it
on is not delivering what you want it to,

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you can walk away from that and I don't
blame you.

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vision into like what you expect them to
do the whole season.

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So they fucking they should embed this
game.

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The roof is collapsing.

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We're going to go hard on it, whatever.

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Onto the next game.

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That's always what's going to be in a two
game schedule.

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Yeah, when

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Yeah.

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I don't know the numbers are only so much
like shout out.

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I love you Marty and I know you with the
PSA is of their record and everything but

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it's like I said people are looking at
games differently like numbers are one

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thing yet the points are great but it
people look at how they show up to games

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how they play how they win and how they
lose and so when they lose badly or they

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make shitty mistakes people are angry and
I don't blame them.

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Here's my last point on this, is they
didn't lose badly.

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They didn't lose badly, but they played
horribly for 40.

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They lost 40 minutes of the game, which I
know is moving the goalpost by definition,

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by changing the end time of the game.

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But like when you play like that, yeah,
it's just.

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It wasn't a good look for the first 40
minutes, let's put it that way.

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Like, that's not the team we expect.

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Sammy led in bad goals.

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Everybody was coughing the puck up like
and they're playing a team that can't put

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two and two together.

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Like they literally just got rid of their
coach like.

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Mm-hmm.

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But when you can play the majority of a
game like that and still come back and

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salvage a point, there is a bright side
there.

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The end.

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No, go.

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is a huge issue in that game, right?

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He was a big, big problem.

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They play so differently in front of him
than they do even like Jones or Wall,

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especially Wall.

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exactly when you play badly, you want to
at least be able to count on one thing

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like and when your goalie is not there for
you either, that's a problem.

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So it's.

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like when he got scored on into various
like turns around he's like what the fuck

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This is the one time he didn't put his
glove over his mouth like that pretty much

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sums it up

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I think it was the last two, there was the
one that went off his mask through the

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five hole.

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And there was another one that he just
didn't see, it went over his shoulder,

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like either the third or the fourth, they
were just really bad.

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The first two I don't blame him for
because they were horrible turnovers.

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Like that's...

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they were all terrible, but he was
especially bad.

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Like he let them down in critical spots.

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Yeah, I'm not saying it's the goalie's job
to be the savior when the team's playing

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like shit, but it's Exactly.

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Okay, so moving on the grim The grimness
came to an end pretty quick.

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Obviously leaves fallen over time, but
it's an absolutely insane comeback.

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I would break it down, but I didn't watch
it.

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Yeah.

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So before we move on to the next game
anything

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of note, like who really led this
comeback?

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Who flipped the switch to turn this into
the comeback it was?

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you would want to lead to come back.

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always Matthews.

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Matthews, the way he's been leading this
team is unreal this year.

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He is a true definition of the leader of
this team.

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It's not even in question anymore.

396
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Like this is his team.

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But like everybody, they flipped a switch
and everybody was just going after it.

398
00:21:17,986 --> 00:21:22,067
So did they all take like emergency after
the second intermission or something?

399
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Like, well, not even that.

400
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I well, everybody's sick, apparently.

401
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So was it like that's when the cold beds
wore off and they weren't drugged up

402
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anymore?

403
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Or that's when they took some like, here,
we got to get this in you to feel better.

404
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They took the athletic greens, not a
sponsor.

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AG1, I think they're called now.

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Who knows?

407
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who fucking knows, but they turned it on.

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They did it.

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I'm glad they did, but obviously it burned
the tank out on Matthews because him and

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somebody else was absent last night.

411
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Brody, right.

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Shout out, buddy of mine, last minute, his
girlfriend got them like hundred level

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seats for that game.

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And he's like, I haven't been to a game in
15 years.

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I'm like, all right, let's go.

416
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And sure enough, craziest game of the
season.

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So.

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What a game to be at.

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snaps, yeah.

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Yeah.

421
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Oh, the duality of fan.

422
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or last night rather.

423
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Yeah.

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Holy shit.

425
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GM Kyle Dubas returns with Monsieur
Spezza.

426
00:22:35,532 --> 00:22:39,415
And I said last time they played the pens,
like, what's the best way to stick it to

427
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Dubas?

428
00:22:39,796 --> 00:22:43,698
And everyone was saying when or, you know,
what do we have to stick it to Dubas for?

429
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It's like, well, because it's fun.

430
00:22:45,259 --> 00:22:46,420
It's hockey.

431
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But most people said when.

432
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care about that.

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Most people said win or blow them out.

434
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So I'm glad that it didn't happen the
first time, but it happened the second

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time.

436
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So here we are.

437
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Seven nothing went over the Pittsburgh
Penguins who are in a bit of a predicament

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this year.

439
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But let's get into it.

440
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Let me pull up some stuff from the game
here.

441
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You guys wanna start her off?

442
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I feel this was one of the most...

443
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You go ahead.

444
00:23:16,667 --> 00:23:21,390
Oh, I was just going to say like, welcome
to the NHL Matthew Nyes.

445
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Like, I've loved this kid forever.

446
00:23:25,373 --> 00:23:27,094
And he's shown glimpses here or there.

447
00:23:27,094 --> 00:23:30,917
But that is one of the best games he has
played since he's come up, like getting

448
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the Gordie Howe hat trick too.

449
00:23:32,478 --> 00:23:33,158
Like

450
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But I didn't even think like talent wise,
it was his best game.

451
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But just as he is as a hockey player, the
fact that he stood up for Domi, he

452
00:23:39,739 --> 00:23:41,239
realized that wasn't great.

453
00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:44,600
His assist, his goal was fucking dirty as
shit.

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But that was one of his best all around
games.

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00:23:46,921 --> 00:23:49,302
And that's something we can expect, I
think, from him going forward.

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Like, this guy is a beast.

457
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He is going to manhandle people.

458
00:23:55,047 --> 00:23:58,590
To me, he reminds me of like a prime Rick
Nash.

459
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Cause he's big, he'll cut to the net, he's
got a wicked shot.

460
00:24:04,436 --> 00:24:07,580
Like, he always definitely nastier.

461
00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:10,923
But like every time he just drops his
shoulder and cuts to the net, that's just

462
00:24:10,923 --> 00:24:13,746
instantly what I think is Rick Nash from
all those highlight reels in the early

463
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thousands.

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00:24:15,164 --> 00:24:19,088
He's 21 years old and he's like just
figuring out how big he is and how much he

465
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can use his body as he's playing hockey
with his skills.

466
00:24:22,052 --> 00:24:25,115
So I think as he develops that, he's gonna
be unreal.

467
00:24:25,770 --> 00:24:27,931
Yeah, I mean, look, Thompson, Mr.

468
00:24:27,931 --> 00:24:32,775
Tage Thompson that the fucking announcers
always love to bring up, but it's just an

469
00:24:32,775 --> 00:24:35,437
easy go-to for a big power forward these
days.

470
00:24:35,437 --> 00:24:39,861
But he didn't break out at 18, 19 into the
star that he is now.

471
00:24:39,861 --> 00:24:45,065
Like, yeah, I think you gotta figure out
how to use your size, right?

472
00:24:45,065 --> 00:24:50,069
Like you guys have been saying, like how
do you use what has for the last 10-ish

473
00:24:50,069 --> 00:24:51,229
years been

474
00:24:51,294 --> 00:24:52,775
a disadvantage to your advantage.

475
00:24:52,775 --> 00:24:54,437
Like how do you push through these fast
people?

476
00:24:54,437 --> 00:24:58,081
How do you make up for having a little
less speed?

477
00:24:58,081 --> 00:25:01,605
It's not easy, but I mean, look, Chris
Crider out of nowhere standing in front of

478
00:25:01,605 --> 00:25:03,788
the net scored like 40 goals two years
ago.

479
00:25:03,788 --> 00:25:07,592
So it's, I think once they figure it out,
it's there.

480
00:25:07,592 --> 00:25:08,974
So looking.

481
00:25:08,974 --> 00:25:13,904
if you can develop your man strength and
your skill, that's a huge asset.

482
00:25:13,904 --> 00:25:15,467
And not many people do it.

483
00:25:15,467 --> 00:25:19,935
But when you do, like you said, those type
of players solve a sudden clicks.

484
00:25:21,006 --> 00:25:26,167
So seventh goal of the season for Knives
at the 1803 of the first there.

485
00:25:26,167 --> 00:25:28,067
So right at the beginning.

486
00:25:28,548 --> 00:25:33,789
And holy shit, immediately after like
minutes later, like we said, getting into

487
00:25:33,789 --> 00:25:34,269
a fight.

488
00:25:34,269 --> 00:25:38,550
So Gordie Howe-Hattrick watch was on with
55 minutes left in the game.

489
00:25:38,550 --> 00:25:40,071
All he needed was an assist.

490
00:25:40,111 --> 00:25:44,552
So that's quite a way to start your first
real year in the big leagues.

491
00:25:44,552 --> 00:25:46,953
I'm really impressed by what we're seeing
from him.

492
00:25:47,433 --> 00:25:49,713
Don't, him and Domi, fuck.

493
00:25:49,902 --> 00:25:55,929
well, and the way it happened too, it
wasn't like one of them cheesy fights that

494
00:25:55,949 --> 00:25:57,631
was staged or anything like that.

495
00:25:57,631 --> 00:26:02,177
Like almost David Perron asked with what
happened with Larkin.

496
00:26:02,177 --> 00:26:07,342
Like he saw Domi go down, he felt it was
dirty and he just went after it.

497
00:26:07,494 --> 00:26:09,476
exactly what we've been asking for, right?

498
00:26:09,476 --> 00:26:14,362
Like you said, it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't
hugs after the whistle that turned into a

499
00:26:14,362 --> 00:26:15,043
couple of shots.

500
00:26:15,043 --> 00:26:19,228
It was like somebody jumping to the
defence of another player, which is again,

501
00:26:19,228 --> 00:26:21,249
exactly what we've been asking for.

502
00:26:21,372 --> 00:26:25,238
Before we get too carried on, I feel that
was a theme all night.

503
00:26:25,238 --> 00:26:27,100
Like, they protected Jones.

504
00:26:28,222 --> 00:26:30,005
They stood up for the players all night.

505
00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:32,028
It was a very chippy affair for a Leafs
game.

506
00:26:32,028 --> 00:26:34,471
They showed a lot of oomph.

507
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:40,231
Yeah, I mean, Laggason and McCabe and
Benoit have been fantastic at just

508
00:26:40,231 --> 00:26:42,432
demolishing people the last couple of
games.

509
00:26:42,432 --> 00:26:46,614
And I love that they figured out, OK,
we're going to do our thing instead of I

510
00:26:46,614 --> 00:26:47,994
know that you guys have your system.

511
00:26:47,994 --> 00:26:53,136
And I think they've shifted away as I've
tried to shovel these guys into what Brody

512
00:26:53,136 --> 00:26:54,076
and Geo have been doing.

513
00:26:54,076 --> 00:26:56,257
They're like, just fucking hit somebody.

514
00:26:56,257 --> 00:26:56,979
It works.

515
00:26:56,979 --> 00:27:02,728
McCann, Legeuil, and Nyes, Robertson, all
these young guys had a huge game tonight.

516
00:27:03,530 --> 00:27:04,691
Last night rather.

517
00:27:05,771 --> 00:27:06,176
Yeah, I'm just...

518
00:27:06,176 --> 00:27:09,084
been playing great for the last handful of
games he's come up.

519
00:27:09,084 --> 00:27:11,610
It's like he does not want to be sent back
down.

520
00:27:12,414 --> 00:27:14,414
Yeah, Bobby McMahon, damn.

521
00:27:15,055 --> 00:27:20,798
McNuggets and Timbits, that's my two food
related guys on the team now.

522
00:27:21,219 --> 00:27:22,960
Benoit with three hits last night.

523
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,521
So fantasy watch, pick him up if you need
hits.

524
00:27:25,981 --> 00:27:28,683
Also plus two on the night, two penalty
minutes.

525
00:27:28,683 --> 00:27:32,345
I mean, these guys that, again, I keep
saying, are these the ones you wanna bring

526
00:27:32,345 --> 00:27:39,089
to the playoffs, are starting to just
become the everyday guys by default, that

527
00:27:39,089 --> 00:27:40,589
they're here every day.

528
00:27:41,148 --> 00:27:44,877
These guys are players that are hungry to
play, they're eager to play, they don't

529
00:27:44,877 --> 00:27:48,607
have any history with this team
whatsoever, so it's a whole new chapter,

530
00:27:48,607 --> 00:27:49,307
right?

531
00:27:49,674 --> 00:27:51,397
and they're getting minutes.

532
00:27:51,397 --> 00:27:56,005
Something that the Leafs are always
incapable of giving new players.

533
00:27:56,469 --> 00:27:58,030
who wasn't playing last night, right?

534
00:27:58,030 --> 00:28:01,854
So everybody else gets to jump up a little
bit, like especially Domi.

535
00:28:01,854 --> 00:28:04,615
I thought he shined more than anybody
else.

536
00:28:05,234 --> 00:28:09,037
Yeah, and I think with the defense, like,
yeah, we've had a lot of injuries last

537
00:28:09,037 --> 00:28:10,418
year and they were flipping people around.

538
00:28:10,418 --> 00:28:14,522
But this year, it's kind of been steady
that it's been one person out, one person

539
00:28:14,522 --> 00:28:15,423
out, one person out.

540
00:28:15,423 --> 00:28:19,186
So the same group of guys have been with
the team pretty much all year.

541
00:28:19,186 --> 00:28:22,109
And these are guys that I don't think
we're expecting to get.

542
00:28:22,109 --> 00:28:24,511
Like, how many fucking NHL games have
these guys played now?

543
00:28:24,511 --> 00:28:25,732
Like, 25?

544
00:28:25,732 --> 00:28:26,572
Some of them?

545
00:28:27,193 --> 00:28:30,076
So that's experience that they would
probably not have gotten this year if

546
00:28:30,076 --> 00:28:30,917
everybody was healthy.

547
00:28:30,917 --> 00:28:32,317
And, you know, you see...

548
00:28:32,594 --> 00:28:34,097
things develop in that time, right?

549
00:28:34,097 --> 00:28:36,301
So it's promising at least.

550
00:28:36,795 --> 00:28:41,196
Absolutely, we traded for basically an
older version of Benoit when we got Shen

551
00:28:41,196 --> 00:28:42,098
last year.

552
00:28:42,344 --> 00:28:43,566
That's exactly it.

553
00:28:44,162 --> 00:28:44,582
fair.

554
00:28:44,582 --> 00:28:46,063
Yeah, now you've got Benoit for cheaper.

555
00:28:46,063 --> 00:28:51,949
So yeah, it would have been nice to keep
Luke Shan for the vibes and the nostalgia

556
00:28:51,949 --> 00:28:52,528
but

557
00:28:52,528 --> 00:28:56,270
from last night is like these young
players or players who have not played

558
00:28:56,270 --> 00:29:00,393
with the Leafs for that long with Austin
Malthus, he's like being out.

559
00:29:00,393 --> 00:29:03,995
They just stepped up and showed what they
can actually do for this team.

560
00:29:03,995 --> 00:29:09,478
And it was very, very encouraging because
we haven't seen a bigger group of players

561
00:29:09,478 --> 00:29:12,579
doing what they did last night in a very
long time.

562
00:29:13,458 --> 00:29:17,980
Yeah, and I mean, this team has a bit of a
streak of doing well with Matthews out.

563
00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:21,642
I mean, it was a bit of a different makeup
of the team, but this is the first time

564
00:29:21,642 --> 00:29:24,363
this year where, like you said, like these
guys have been faced with it.

565
00:29:24,363 --> 00:29:25,744
And yeah, I agree.

566
00:29:25,744 --> 00:29:32,268
They really stepped up to the plate and
showed that Matthews can take a night off

567
00:29:32,268 --> 00:29:33,128
every now and then.

568
00:29:33,128 --> 00:29:37,030
And to be fair, he kind of has, while he's
been there in the lineup.

569
00:29:37,030 --> 00:29:40,092
So it was a nice test.

570
00:29:41,653 --> 00:29:42,413
Hey, come on.

571
00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:43,126
He's had...

572
00:29:43,126 --> 00:29:47,358
He's had at least two or three nights of
just kind of being there, and I don't

573
00:29:47,358 --> 00:29:48,019
blame him.

574
00:29:48,019 --> 00:29:51,949
Like, you can't give 100% every night
through the regular season.

575
00:29:52,687 --> 00:29:55,473
He's still got his defensive play, I
haven't had much to complain about with

576
00:29:55,473 --> 00:29:56,374
him this year.

577
00:29:56,674 --> 00:30:00,279
I'm in Beener Island right now.

578
00:30:00,707 --> 00:30:05,473
But is him playing a perfect offensive
game him giving 100 percent.

579
00:30:05,864 --> 00:30:06,616
Yes.

580
00:30:08,364 --> 00:30:11,462
If that's what's needed, Johnny Myrtle.

581
00:30:11,729 --> 00:30:13,710
If the offense isn't happening, then for
sure it is.

582
00:30:13,710 --> 00:30:16,672
At least he's not Johnny Seagull.

583
00:30:16,672 --> 00:30:19,993
Did you fucking read the thing he wrote
about Domi?

584
00:30:20,814 --> 00:30:23,135
He's being roasted right now on Twitter.

585
00:30:24,236 --> 00:30:24,616
What was it?

586
00:30:24,616 --> 00:30:26,518
The Domi conundrum, I think it was.

587
00:30:26,518 --> 00:30:30,079
And then Domi came out and got three
points and just like, fuck you.

588
00:30:31,030 --> 00:30:33,357
Womp Womp.

589
00:30:33,357 --> 00:30:34,574
No, but look, do you pay?

590
00:30:34,574 --> 00:30:38,085
Mitch Marner for the first time since
London Nights days.

591
00:30:38,488 --> 00:30:39,651
Huge for him.

592
00:30:41,030 --> 00:30:43,568
Okay, I'm not gonna die on this hill.

593
00:30:43,568 --> 00:30:44,141
I'm gonna go to bed.

594
00:30:44,141 --> 00:30:46,389
No, no, let's segue.

595
00:30:47,522 --> 00:30:50,623
So like we said, new guys.

596
00:30:50,623 --> 00:30:55,807
We got Noah Greger, who I have really
liked this year, finally after three shots

597
00:30:55,807 --> 00:30:56,927
ends up scoring.

598
00:30:58,088 --> 00:31:00,810
Again, just the guys stepping up to the
plate.

599
00:31:00,810 --> 00:31:01,870
I don't know what else to say.

600
00:31:01,870 --> 00:31:05,212
Fuck, I love Greger.

601
00:31:05,653 --> 00:31:06,673
Who else got one?

602
00:31:06,673 --> 00:31:08,554
Tavares, Nylander.

603
00:31:09,615 --> 00:31:11,897
Because I want to thought I was just going
through the goals first to see if there

604
00:31:11,897 --> 00:31:13,503
was anything that stood out there.

605
00:31:13,503 --> 00:31:14,890
we'll save him, we'll save him.

606
00:31:16,391 --> 00:31:20,993
Um, but yeah, where there's a wall,
there's a way, because holy shit.

607
00:31:25,284 --> 00:31:29,069
Listen, I was hot on them signing Jones in
the off season.

608
00:31:29,069 --> 00:31:31,872
I feel no one else really was.

609
00:31:32,194 --> 00:31:33,395
I knew what this guy can bring.

610
00:31:33,395 --> 00:31:34,918
He was huge for Seattle.

611
00:31:34,918 --> 00:31:36,740
He was great for the Sharks.

612
00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:38,763
And he's proving it right now.

613
00:31:38,763 --> 00:31:41,967
We were so fucking lucky that he wasn't
claimed off waivers.

614
00:31:43,846 --> 00:31:47,272
Yeah, that was something that probably
would have happened last year.

615
00:31:47,272 --> 00:31:53,484
And I love that the player that would have
been claimed had Dubas been the GM ends up

616
00:31:53,484 --> 00:31:55,567
getting a shutout against Dubas.

617
00:31:56,509 --> 00:31:58,162
The irony is not lost.

618
00:31:58,895 --> 00:32:04,061
Is this like proof that all the GMs in the
NHL hate Dubis because he came in and

619
00:32:04,061 --> 00:32:07,385
tried to change the way people manage a
team?

620
00:32:07,606 --> 00:32:10,990
So it's like, okay, every single player he
puts on waivers, even if we don't want

621
00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:12,110
them, let's just take them.

622
00:32:13,341 --> 00:32:18,247
It's proof of something that they
irrationally took players off waivers for

623
00:32:18,247 --> 00:32:18,887
him.

624
00:32:19,774 --> 00:32:21,014
Look at it this way.

625
00:32:21,034 --> 00:32:28,619
If somebody all of a sudden starts buying
up all of the GameCube games off of Kijiji

626
00:32:28,619 --> 00:32:32,821
in town, people are going to start going,
oh, someone wants these and they'll start

627
00:32:32,821 --> 00:32:34,042
charging more for them.

628
00:32:34,042 --> 00:32:35,443
I don't value them myself.

629
00:32:35,443 --> 00:32:39,945
But if somebody else is going to buy them,
I will charge you $125 if that's what it

630
00:32:39,945 --> 00:32:41,126
says it's worth online.

631
00:32:41,126 --> 00:32:45,308
Like, it's kind of that mentality of if
somebody else is putting a value on it,

632
00:32:45,308 --> 00:32:47,969
then I sure like

633
00:32:48,258 --> 00:32:50,923
Dubas likes this guy and he's putting him
through waivers.

634
00:32:50,923 --> 00:32:52,627
He can't keep him because of something.

635
00:32:52,627 --> 00:32:53,348
Great, I'll take it.

636
00:32:53,348 --> 00:32:56,733
Maybe I can trade it back to him for
something if he wants this guy so bad.

637
00:32:56,976 --> 00:32:58,498
Listen, he's not a Peter Murasic.

638
00:32:58,498 --> 00:33:02,383
Like this guy was playing for Seattle last
year in the second round of the playoffs

639
00:33:02,383 --> 00:33:03,684
and putting up good numbers.

640
00:33:03,684 --> 00:33:04,906
He is a good goaltender.

641
00:33:04,906 --> 00:33:06,387
He's been around for awhile.

642
00:33:06,648 --> 00:33:10,333
And the fact that he wasn't claimed, he's
good, man.

643
00:33:10,333 --> 00:33:11,094
He's, he's good.

644
00:33:11,094 --> 00:33:12,415
He's a good goaltender.

645
00:33:12,598 --> 00:33:15,879
I think that's what we're seeing is like
San Jose has been a horrible team for a

646
00:33:15,879 --> 00:33:16,699
long time.

647
00:33:16,699 --> 00:33:18,460
And the guy was basically wasting away
there.

648
00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:20,941
And the years on Seattle are completely
different.

649
00:33:20,941 --> 00:33:24,262
And now we're seeing if you put a team in
front of him, a complete team, because

650
00:33:24,262 --> 00:33:27,403
Seattle is last year was kind of a
storybook year for them.

651
00:33:27,403 --> 00:33:31,484
Like Jared McCann scoring that much is not
going to happen again, I don't think.

652
00:33:31,644 --> 00:33:35,645
But look, he's now in a position where
he's got a fully built team in front of

653
00:33:35,645 --> 00:33:36,265
him.

654
00:33:36,265 --> 00:33:37,306
And I.

655
00:33:37,306 --> 00:33:41,074
I think it's doing well for him and as it
should, right?

656
00:33:41,074 --> 00:33:43,299
I think, until Wall comes back.

657
00:33:43,638 --> 00:33:48,203
There's a reason Martin Jones has stayed
in the league, even though he's sporting a

658
00:33:48,203 --> 00:33:49,445
sub 900 every year.

659
00:33:49,445 --> 00:33:54,931
Like there's people are seeing the saves
that he is making regardless of how shitty

660
00:33:54,931 --> 00:33:57,333
his team is and keeping him around.

661
00:33:57,756 --> 00:34:00,863
So as our in-house goalie, what do you
think of this meter?

662
00:34:02,175 --> 00:34:07,402
So I was very adamant when he got signed
that I was not necessarily happy with it

663
00:34:07,402 --> 00:34:13,871
because I feared that this was basically
another ticket for Wal to head to the

664
00:34:13,871 --> 00:34:14,791
Marlies.

665
00:34:16,274 --> 00:34:17,595
Because I love...

666
00:34:19,118 --> 00:34:19,402
Yeah.

667
00:34:19,402 --> 00:34:21,267
bump Wal down a spot?

668
00:34:21,267 --> 00:34:25,497
Why did we give him this chance if we're
just gonna bring in Jones?

669
00:34:25,583 --> 00:34:26,543
No, exactly.

670
00:34:26,543 --> 00:34:30,365
And that was my fear because I love Wall
and I think I've got a lot of faith in him

671
00:34:30,365 --> 00:34:31,465
for the future.

672
00:34:33,606 --> 00:34:40,309
Yeah, so with Jones, the fact that we were
able to keep him, like, he's had some

673
00:34:40,309 --> 00:34:44,371
really good flashes, but it's been really
difficult.

674
00:34:44,371 --> 00:34:50,234
He had three seasons in San Jose when he
was one of the best in the league.

675
00:34:51,134 --> 00:34:51,974
And then.

676
00:34:52,319 --> 00:34:54,720
just completely tanked after that.

677
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:58,362
Now, as Roscoe said, the team in front of
him was kinda playing crappy.

678
00:34:58,362 --> 00:35:04,906
Even last year with the crack and like an
887, that's not a great save percentage.

679
00:35:04,906 --> 00:35:07,075
No, they were outscoring all of their
problems.

680
00:35:07,075 --> 00:35:09,465
They were letting in five and scoring six.

681
00:35:09,465 --> 00:35:10,627
Like that was their whole year.

682
00:35:10,627 --> 00:35:13,847
So you can kind of look at it.

683
00:35:13,847 --> 00:35:15,628
It all depends on the team and how they're
doing.

684
00:35:15,628 --> 00:35:21,889
Like no offense to the guy, we turned Jack
Campbell into an All-Star, right?

685
00:35:23,090 --> 00:35:26,271
Like look at what LA is doing right now.

686
00:35:26,271 --> 00:35:29,252
They've built a team and they don't even
care who the hell's in that.

687
00:35:29,252 --> 00:35:31,252
Whoever is in that out there is doing
well.

688
00:35:31,252 --> 00:35:34,853
Phoenix Copley, can't tell but couldn't
stop a beach ball last year and he's

689
00:35:34,853 --> 00:35:36,293
playing great right now.

690
00:35:36,734 --> 00:35:39,763
Like different goalies depending on their
style.

691
00:35:39,763 --> 00:35:41,864
play better under different systems.

692
00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:45,769
Wall is a very efficient goaltender and he
plays very well for us.

693
00:35:45,769 --> 00:35:47,150
Sammy is not.

694
00:35:47,191 --> 00:35:49,212
Sammy is an acrobatic goalie.

695
00:35:49,714 --> 00:35:54,859
Now he did have a good season last year,
but everyone can have a flash in the pan.

696
00:35:55,180 --> 00:35:57,382
So this might be a little bit of that
reverting back to it.

697
00:35:57,382 --> 00:36:01,706
Jones has been around long enough that he
can play that very structured system, so.

698
00:36:02,418 --> 00:36:03,338
Interesting.

699
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:07,362
Well, thank you for the Inside the Goalie
Mask take.

700
00:36:08,503 --> 00:36:11,565
Oh, we should go inside the goalie mask.

701
00:36:12,028 --> 00:36:16,813
he's a lot more just like system player,
whereas you said Sammy, he'll rise

702
00:36:16,813 --> 00:36:20,177
confidence, he's a hot type, he's like a
90s, like Felix Potluck type of goalie,

703
00:36:20,177 --> 00:36:20,917
right?

704
00:36:21,038 --> 00:36:22,440
If he's on, he's really great.

705
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,303
If he's not, you better score like six
goals.

706
00:36:27,838 --> 00:36:31,309
And look, this team can do that eight out
of 10 times.

707
00:36:31,527 --> 00:36:35,571
I said this earlier, I think Wall is our
most important player going forward.

708
00:36:36,092 --> 00:36:37,053
This is our guy.

709
00:36:37,053 --> 00:36:40,295
He is gonna lead us to wherever we go.

710
00:36:40,436 --> 00:36:43,399
There's obviously Matthews and all these
guys, but I think he is the most important

711
00:36:43,399 --> 00:36:44,620
player going forward.

712
00:36:45,618 --> 00:36:51,583
Yeah, I think we're finally seeing the
culmination of a lot of development with

713
00:36:51,583 --> 00:36:51,864
him.

714
00:36:51,864 --> 00:36:55,067
Like they were very careful about not
bringing him up too early.

715
00:36:55,067 --> 00:36:59,211
Like for the entire existence of this
podcast, I've been asking where the hell

716
00:36:59,211 --> 00:37:00,352
is Joseph Wall?

717
00:37:00,352 --> 00:37:02,694
So now we're here, he's here and he's
great.

718
00:37:02,694 --> 00:37:07,058
So I'm glad that they trusted their system
and waited until he was absolutely ready

719
00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:10,581
and confident that he could do it because
it's paying off.

720
00:37:11,048 --> 00:37:14,230
So this begs the question, what do they do
going forward?

721
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:17,792
Do we trade Sammy before the trade
deadline, who's Jones, our second

722
00:37:17,792 --> 00:37:18,633
goaltender?

723
00:37:18,633 --> 00:37:22,335
That's one of the biggest questions that
has to be going forward with the Leafs.

724
00:37:23,243 --> 00:37:23,759
Well, I mean...

725
00:37:23,759 --> 00:37:29,995
this point, sorry Roscoe, at this point
you almost have to move them.

726
00:37:31,070 --> 00:37:34,024
Yeah, I was just going to say there's a
lot of teams looking for goalies.

727
00:37:34,619 --> 00:37:38,703
that like the money too, it just makes so
much sense for a trade.

728
00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:42,189
Can you trick Edmonton into taking another
goalie?

729
00:37:43,735 --> 00:37:44,999
Maybe I'll do one.

730
00:37:45,546 --> 00:37:52,068
Like, oh, yeah, see, Ottawa's a pretty
frequent trade partner with the Leafs.

731
00:37:52,068 --> 00:37:52,268
there.

732
00:37:52,268 --> 00:37:54,693
I'm just very bitter about Ottawa tonight.

733
00:37:54,693 --> 00:37:56,315
We're not going to talk about that, but.

734
00:37:57,226 --> 00:38:02,828
But no, I think you do have to at least
look at it, but I don't think it's as

735
00:38:02,828 --> 00:38:06,289
pressing now that Klingberg's LTI-ard for
the rest of the season.

736
00:38:06,689 --> 00:38:09,050
You've got a bit of a juggle going on
here.

737
00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:13,991
We heard, I mean, we haven't talked about
Ryan Reeves going down in the most bizarre

738
00:38:13,991 --> 00:38:15,212
way possible.

739
00:38:17,433 --> 00:38:18,540
He's not expecting to...

740
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:19,749
to Robot Island.

741
00:38:20,714 --> 00:38:25,423
He's not expected to miss significant
time, but they did move Gio to LTIR, I

742
00:38:25,423 --> 00:38:27,949
believe, today was the move.

743
00:38:27,949 --> 00:38:28,471
So.

744
00:38:28,471 --> 00:38:31,896
like this gold tender controversy is not
going to be a thing going forward,

745
00:38:31,896 --> 00:38:36,062
especially with Toronto media or like
Toronto, like Twitter verse, whatever you

746
00:38:36,062 --> 00:38:39,807
want to like phrase it as it's going to be
a thing.

747
00:38:40,894 --> 00:38:44,416
Yeah, like what do you do when you've got
all three of them healthy?

748
00:38:44,416 --> 00:38:46,077
Like who do you send?

749
00:38:46,357 --> 00:38:49,459
Like you can't, god damn.

750
00:38:49,499 --> 00:38:52,261
I mean, you could try to send Jones down,
but after that performance, I don't know

751
00:38:52,261 --> 00:38:53,640
if he'll clear waivers again.

752
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,525
See you soon.

753
00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:57,584
Keep Wallen Jones and send Sammy down.

754
00:38:57,584 --> 00:39:00,452
If someone claims them, okay yeah, you
lose them for nothing, but you're not

755
00:39:00,452 --> 00:39:01,714
paying that salary.

756
00:39:01,774 --> 00:39:02,769
It's honestly...

757
00:39:02,769 --> 00:39:06,763
you throw them in for like cap just to
make it work money wise.

758
00:39:07,570 --> 00:39:11,574
I would rather lose them on waivers than
pay somebody to take them, but I don't see

759
00:39:11,574 --> 00:39:14,503
anyone claiming that contract off waivers,
but

760
00:39:14,503 --> 00:39:15,326
chance.

761
00:39:18,642 --> 00:39:24,411
Yeah, I think the position of power in the
trade is the person with the goalie, not

762
00:39:24,411 --> 00:39:25,653
the person looking for one.

763
00:39:25,653 --> 00:39:29,339
Like, you know, you can say the contracts
not greater, he's been questionable all

764
00:39:29,339 --> 00:39:31,583
you want, but you need a goalie and I have
one.

765
00:39:31,583 --> 00:39:33,005
So do you want them or not?

766
00:39:33,005 --> 00:39:33,266
right.

767
00:39:33,266 --> 00:39:36,497
And at that point, like you'd have to let
Sammy take the net for a while to show

768
00:39:36,497 --> 00:39:40,007
that he is capable of, you know, being
worth a trade, right?

769
00:39:40,619 --> 00:39:48,886
Yes and no because goalies are notoriously
kind of fucked in the head and that's

770
00:39:48,886 --> 00:39:53,349
coming from a goalie and a lot of goalie
coaches are former goalies.

771
00:39:53,610 --> 00:39:57,733
So I can pretty much guarantee you there
is at least one if not a handful of goalie

772
00:39:57,733 --> 00:40:01,557
coaches in their GM's ear right now
saying, hey, we can save him.

773
00:40:01,557 --> 00:40:03,458
We can turn him into an all-star.

774
00:40:03,458 --> 00:40:04,218
Get him.

775
00:40:05,424 --> 00:40:09,107
It's funny what you're saying because
Edmonton is not like a terrible candidate

776
00:40:09,107 --> 00:40:10,689
for this right now, like...

777
00:40:11,610 --> 00:40:13,932
Picard is doing terrible, um...

778
00:40:14,593 --> 00:40:17,215
Like, all their goaltenders are fucking
terrible.

779
00:40:18,826 --> 00:40:25,929
Yeah, it's just the story would be crazy
that like, we're just kind of if the

780
00:40:25,929 --> 00:40:28,071
goalie doesn't work here, we ship them off
to Edmonton.

781
00:40:28,071 --> 00:40:29,991
Like, is that the deal?

782
00:40:31,112 --> 00:40:34,054
Oh, my god.

783
00:40:34,054 --> 00:40:34,854
I don't.

784
00:40:35,174 --> 00:40:38,516
But yeah, like I said, I don't think it's
as pressing like before the deadline.

785
00:40:38,516 --> 00:40:41,258
Maybe Yeah, it.

786
00:40:41,598 --> 00:40:44,439
I think it could be an interesting piece.

787
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,421
Now that this has all shaped up this way
and Jones's

788
00:40:48,514 --> 00:40:49,894
is playing well.

789
00:40:50,515 --> 00:40:53,918
If you're looking for a defenceman, you
now have Sammy as a bargaining chip that I

790
00:40:53,918 --> 00:40:56,840
don't think you thought you had two weeks
ago.

791
00:40:56,921 --> 00:40:58,803
So that becomes a factor in trades.

792
00:40:58,803 --> 00:41:02,396
So, yeah, could be interesting what Brady
can cook up.

793
00:41:02,396 --> 00:41:03,118
right?

794
00:41:04,414 --> 00:41:08,138
It is making me worried that the Calgary
flames that he built are continuing to

795
00:41:08,138 --> 00:41:08,939
suck.

796
00:41:09,761 --> 00:41:12,784
Not giving me much faith in the moves he's
gonna make, but we'll see.

797
00:41:12,784 --> 00:41:13,876
We'll see.

798
00:41:13,876 --> 00:41:16,527
I'm opposite of you, I think.

799
00:41:16,527 --> 00:41:18,654
I got a lot more faith in him than you do.

800
00:41:20,086 --> 00:41:23,556
I'm not saying I don't have faith in him,
I'm just saying it worries me a little

801
00:41:23,556 --> 00:41:28,767
that the people that he brought in Calgary
are all slow, but whatevs.

802
00:41:28,767 --> 00:41:34,434
Well, yes and no, he was forced to trade
his best player for pennies on the dollar.

803
00:41:34,434 --> 00:41:39,140
And like that being said, at the time we
all thought he made a decent deal.

804
00:41:40,202 --> 00:41:43,486
But like that's not a, you're not dealing
from a position of strength there.

805
00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:47,437
I mean, yeah, you gotta figure out, Hubert
O.

806
00:41:47,437 --> 00:41:48,014
Anyway.

807
00:41:48,014 --> 00:41:49,515
one of his deal right now?

808
00:41:50,858 --> 00:41:53,301
Those guys are fucking saddled with that.

809
00:41:53,301 --> 00:41:55,063
Whoo, you talking about Roman Island?

810
00:41:55,063 --> 00:41:56,024
Jesus.

811
00:41:57,326 --> 00:41:58,047
Yeah.

812
00:41:59,182 --> 00:41:59,707
uh...

813
00:41:59,707 --> 00:42:03,573
Also speaking of goalies, shout out again
to Hildeby, he's still lighting it up in

814
00:42:03,573 --> 00:42:04,574
the AHL.

815
00:42:05,418 --> 00:42:07,125
Nice, love that, love to hear it.

816
00:42:07,125 --> 00:42:08,027
He'll be...

817
00:42:08,132 --> 00:42:11,038
goals against average 929 save percentage

818
00:42:11,177 --> 00:42:11,740
Hmm.

819
00:42:13,218 --> 00:42:15,218
be a battle between him and a wall one
day.

820
00:42:15,659 --> 00:42:19,361
So last thing, GM Kyle Dubas, throwing a
bit of a fit.

821
00:42:19,361 --> 00:42:22,743
A couple of people that missed the game
were asking if he was there, shout out to

822
00:42:22,743 --> 00:42:23,603
Sarwa.

823
00:42:24,224 --> 00:42:26,745
He was, and he was not happy.

824
00:42:26,745 --> 00:42:27,996
You could tell he...

825
00:42:27,996 --> 00:42:30,129
for post-game media either.

826
00:42:30,562 --> 00:42:32,107
Of course he wasn't.

827
00:42:32,107 --> 00:42:36,901
I'd say by go three or four, he was
crushing some empty bottles back there

828
00:42:36,901 --> 00:42:38,480
with his angry fists.

829
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,904
have like classic woover, he stood up,
moved the vest like that, sat back down,

830
00:42:42,904 --> 00:42:46,359
and Jason Spetson was writing, We fucking
suck in his notebook.

831
00:42:46,359 --> 00:42:47,270
Hahaha

832
00:42:50,095 --> 00:42:52,057
Oh, what does this team do?

833
00:42:52,057 --> 00:42:55,481
It's exactly what we expected.

834
00:42:56,248 --> 00:42:58,110
one of Crosby's last great years.

835
00:42:58,110 --> 00:42:59,752
Like he's having a Renaissance right now.

836
00:42:59,752 --> 00:43:01,695
This guy is playing unreal.

837
00:43:01,695 --> 00:43:04,359
They move the farm to get Carlson.

838
00:43:04,359 --> 00:43:06,341
They re up their goaltender.

839
00:43:06,502 --> 00:43:08,244
Malcolm's playing like shit.

840
00:43:08,585 --> 00:43:10,807
Like, what do they do here?

841
00:43:12,546 --> 00:43:17,410
Honestly, like the move was bringing Eric
Carlson in for the last hurrah, you know,

842
00:43:17,410 --> 00:43:18,491
go for one more.

843
00:43:18,491 --> 00:43:23,795
And now you're kind of stuck with that
contract for more than a couple of years.

844
00:43:23,795 --> 00:43:26,117
Like, I don't know, man.

845
00:43:26,117 --> 00:43:27,982
God we didn't trade for him.

846
00:43:28,822 --> 00:43:31,104
And he tried so many times.

847
00:43:31,316 --> 00:43:34,403
I feel so bad for Crosby right now, like I
really, really do.

848
00:43:35,132 --> 00:43:35,395
Yeah.

849
00:43:35,395 --> 00:43:38,369
to put it into context, Crosby is what,
36?

850
00:43:38,897 --> 00:43:39,039
Yep.

851
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:39,954
Yeah.

852
00:43:40,691 --> 00:43:43,975
So he's on pace for like 50 goals this
year, right?

853
00:43:43,975 --> 00:43:46,491
for the second time ever, ladies and
gentlemen, we'll hit that.

854
00:43:47,103 --> 00:43:51,174
Gretzky's 36 age year hit 25.

855
00:43:51,904 --> 00:43:52,966
No, he's unreal, right?

856
00:43:52,966 --> 00:43:56,491
Like, he's playing as if he's playing when
he was like 29 right now.

857
00:43:56,491 --> 00:43:58,113
Like, his game is...

858
00:43:58,254 --> 00:43:59,315
unbelievable.

859
00:44:00,502 --> 00:44:01,883
But they just can't put it together around
him.

860
00:44:01,883 --> 00:44:03,885
And I don't like that's Dubas's job.

861
00:44:03,885 --> 00:44:08,290
Like when your star is playing his best
season ever and the team around him sucks,

862
00:44:08,290 --> 00:44:09,631
like, sorry.

863
00:44:10,733 --> 00:44:11,377
Like, I don't know.

864
00:44:11,377 --> 00:44:12,057
is?

865
00:44:12,820 --> 00:44:14,183
You train him to Colorado.

866
00:44:14,183 --> 00:44:18,652
He plays with Nathan McKinnon, another
fucking coal harbor boy.

867
00:44:19,274 --> 00:44:20,576
One, two punch.

868
00:44:21,118 --> 00:44:21,839
Hmm.

869
00:44:23,094 --> 00:44:24,494
I don't know if he'd wave.

870
00:44:24,763 --> 00:44:28,390
No, I think Crosby's more worried about
his legacy there.

871
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:30,755
trade it, that's where he goes.

872
00:44:32,699 --> 00:44:35,590
It would be Montreal if anywhere I grew up
a Habs fan.

873
00:44:35,768 --> 00:44:39,772
Oh god, they're so fucking god-awful, he
would never finish his career there.

874
00:44:40,894 --> 00:44:42,135
They're way too shitty.

875
00:44:44,689 --> 00:44:47,897
Guess how many goals Alex Ovechkin's on
pays for.

876
00:44:48,904 --> 00:44:49,593
10.

877
00:44:50,169 --> 00:44:52,689
Under like 25, 20.

878
00:44:56,031 --> 00:44:58,493
who hasn't scored in 11 or 12 games.

879
00:44:58,597 --> 00:45:00,335
Yeah, that's a real problem.

880
00:45:01,506 --> 00:45:03,091
How do I do this math again?

881
00:45:03,091 --> 00:45:04,013
It's like.

882
00:45:04,064 --> 00:45:08,268
Which is kind of crazy because he is like,
as a power play specialist, he's on the

883
00:45:08,268 --> 00:45:11,670
top of the circle, he gets the one timer,
he claps it in.

884
00:45:12,251 --> 00:45:17,475
It's not very skilled, it's just a great
shot and it's not been working.

885
00:45:17,475 --> 00:45:22,337
for yeah, for years, everybody's just
always said, plant someone on him like

886
00:45:23,278 --> 00:45:23,958
you're shorthanded.

887
00:45:23,958 --> 00:45:25,038
You're already down.

888
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:28,080
Yeah, just someone else can score.

889
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,680
I don't care.

890
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,241
He's not scoring because that's all he did
was stand there and shoot.

891
00:45:31,241 --> 00:45:34,062
And he still got his goals every game.

892
00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:37,716
we used to play against someone who was
way better than anyone on our team and our

893
00:45:37,716 --> 00:45:41,998
coach would assign someone, be like, don't
do anything except for be on this guy's

894
00:45:41,998 --> 00:45:42,439
shadow.

895
00:45:42,439 --> 00:45:44,099
That's all you do all game.

896
00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:50,514
So he is on pace, if my math is correct,
for 14 or 15 goals this year.

897
00:45:50,514 --> 00:45:52,796
He's got five goals through 28 games.

898
00:45:52,796 --> 00:45:55,999
He hasn't scored, I think, in like 12
games now.

899
00:45:57,621 --> 00:46:04,147
If he finishes the year with anything
under 20, he has never finished a season

900
00:46:04,147 --> 00:46:06,989
with a one as the first digit in his
goals.

901
00:46:08,072 --> 00:46:10,652
How many does he have until Gretzky's
record?

902
00:46:12,444 --> 00:46:13,904
and do something I think.

903
00:46:13,904 --> 00:46:16,340
He's at 827, so...

904
00:46:16,935 --> 00:46:20,184
Yep, so 68, 69, something like that.

905
00:46:20,547 --> 00:46:21,830
Quick math in my head.

906
00:46:22,948 --> 00:46:24,173
Not looking good.

907
00:46:24,392 --> 00:46:31,845
one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight, nine 50 goal seasons.

908
00:46:33,588 --> 00:46:34,170
No.

909
00:46:34,798 --> 00:46:35,647
What the fuck out of here?

910
00:46:35,647 --> 00:46:36,976
That's crazy.

911
00:46:37,012 --> 00:46:40,966
aside for Matthews, he's the best goal
scorer in the last 20 years.

912
00:46:41,129 --> 00:46:43,115
Because Matthews has better numbers.

913
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:48,352
yeah, well, I mean, 52 goals in his first
year with the Caps.

914
00:46:48,352 --> 00:46:49,982
obviously Ovi does but

915
00:46:51,294 --> 00:46:57,503
Yeah, it's just, it's, on one end it feels
like the end of an era with Ovi, and on

916
00:46:57,503 --> 00:47:03,852
the other side with Crosby, it feels like,
you know, he's got more in the tank and

917
00:47:03,852 --> 00:47:04,500
what do you do?

918
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:05,943
more years in the tank.

919
00:47:07,606 --> 00:47:10,690
Again, I mean, we felt that way about Ovi
last year, so you never know.

920
00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:15,296
I think you got to treat every year like,
you know, if he's on this year, you got to

921
00:47:15,296 --> 00:47:16,123
use it while it's here.

922
00:47:16,123 --> 00:47:18,742
the discrepancy is huge this year.

923
00:47:19,334 --> 00:47:22,521
Yeah, and it has never been through their
entire run together.

924
00:47:22,931 --> 00:47:25,476
You also have to look at the style of game
they play too, right?

925
00:47:25,497 --> 00:47:32,514
Like, oh yeah, so Crosby's style is more
conducive to being better over the long

926
00:47:32,514 --> 00:47:33,134
term.

927
00:47:35,002 --> 00:47:39,934
Really, because I would think that Ovi's
style is easy, like to stand there in a

928
00:47:39,934 --> 00:47:44,605
spot and wait for the puck to shoot it,
like seems pretty light on your body.

929
00:47:45,023 --> 00:47:50,665
But he's been doing just that for so long
that that's all he has now.

930
00:47:51,646 --> 00:47:51,846
Right?

931
00:47:51,846 --> 00:47:54,027
Like what?

932
00:47:54,027 --> 00:47:54,687
What?

933
00:47:56,608 --> 00:47:57,188
The what?

934
00:47:57,188 --> 00:47:57,308
Yeah.

935
00:47:57,308 --> 00:47:58,329
Performance anxiety.

936
00:47:58,329 --> 00:47:59,029
No.

937
00:48:00,170 --> 00:48:03,231
Like when he came in, he was deking, he
was running through guys, he was doing

938
00:48:03,231 --> 00:48:04,191
everything.

939
00:48:04,191 --> 00:48:08,373
And then over the course of a handful of
years, it turned into just shot after shot

940
00:48:08,373 --> 00:48:08,874
after shot.

941
00:48:08,874 --> 00:48:11,214
Whereas Crosby, if he snake bit.

942
00:48:11,279 --> 00:48:12,605
Okay, he's still winning draws.

943
00:48:12,605 --> 00:48:13,811
He's still playing defensively.

944
00:48:13,811 --> 00:48:16,279
I know you don't think that's important,
Roscoe, but

945
00:48:16,279 --> 00:48:18,405
god, that's not what I said.

946
00:48:19,044 --> 00:48:24,195
He dominates offense on the boards like he
cycles like no other he plays a full game

947
00:48:24,816 --> 00:48:25,456
Yeah, exactly.

948
00:48:25,456 --> 00:48:27,618
He does the to pull a Don Cherry.

949
00:48:27,618 --> 00:48:29,459
He does all the little things, right?

950
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:35,164
Like he so if even if it's not going well
for him on the score sheet, he still has

951
00:48:35,164 --> 00:48:39,607
other aspects to the game to bring and the
more you're out there, the more you're

952
00:48:39,607 --> 00:48:43,070
doing, the better chance it is that you're
going to catch fire again.

953
00:48:43,671 --> 00:48:44,051
Right?

954
00:48:44,051 --> 00:48:46,773
Like he he's not just skill.

955
00:48:46,773 --> 00:48:48,974
He has the hard work to go with the skill.

956
00:48:49,296 --> 00:48:53,562
So from Sportsnet, I was listening to the
podcast the other night with JD Bunkhiss,

957
00:48:53,562 --> 00:48:56,005
Sam McKee, and Justin Bourne.

958
00:48:56,226 --> 00:49:00,453
And they were saying, would you trade
Crosby for Nylander or Marner?

959
00:49:00,453 --> 00:49:01,695
And they all said yes.

960
00:49:01,695 --> 00:49:04,681
And I didn't know how to feel about that.

961
00:49:04,681 --> 00:49:06,345
yes as who as to wrong?

962
00:49:06,886 --> 00:49:07,591
Yes.

963
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:11,930
Not okay.

964
00:49:12,391 --> 00:49:19,737
Here's no, it's not completely irrelevant.

965
00:49:19,737 --> 00:49:21,078
We can we can segue to this.

966
00:49:22,419 --> 00:49:28,844
The only way like if they brought in some
defensemen through a trade that they were

967
00:49:28,844 --> 00:49:32,768
going to resign, that was going to cost a
bit of money that made it so that Nylander

968
00:49:32,768 --> 00:49:34,268
was impossible.

969
00:49:34,869 --> 00:49:40,013
That may be at the deadline if we're like,
guys, this is the year.

970
00:49:40,466 --> 00:49:41,927
Nylander's not gonna resign.

971
00:49:41,927 --> 00:49:46,892
He's told us, like, if you can't offer me
this much, and they say we can't, that's

972
00:49:46,933 --> 00:49:51,361
if in that world, in that box, send
Nylander to Pittsburgh to do this.

973
00:49:51,361 --> 00:49:55,268
is like you send him off to another team
to win a cup within one or two years,

974
00:49:55,268 --> 00:49:55,609
right?

975
00:49:55,609 --> 00:49:56,510
Is it the Leafs?

976
00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:57,893
Is it the Avalanche?

977
00:49:57,893 --> 00:49:59,795
Like, would you actually do that?

978
00:50:00,145 --> 00:50:01,687
Did I hear you wrong there, Sully?

979
00:50:01,687 --> 00:50:05,031
Did you say Nylander and Marner or
Nylander or Marner?

980
00:50:06,454 --> 00:50:07,315
Okay, I thought you said and.

981
00:50:07,315 --> 00:50:08,757
That's what I was like, no, absolutely
not.

982
00:50:08,757 --> 00:50:09,772
We're not doing both of them.

983
00:50:09,772 --> 00:50:12,650
up Marner or like, or Neylander?

984
00:50:12,650 --> 00:50:16,575
I guess the idea with moving Marner is to
free up cap space over a longer period of

985
00:50:16,575 --> 00:50:17,236
time.

986
00:50:17,236 --> 00:50:21,257
Cause what's Crosby's contract like right
now?

987
00:50:21,257 --> 00:50:22,919
it, and like, would I actually do this?

988
00:50:22,919 --> 00:50:25,642
And it's enticing, it's hell, but...

989
00:50:27,104 --> 00:50:29,346
I'm not sure I would.

990
00:50:29,607 --> 00:50:30,228
Where does he play?

991
00:50:30,228 --> 00:50:33,852
Because Tavares is your second line
center, Matthew is obviously your first.

992
00:50:33,953 --> 00:50:36,375
Tavares is way too slow to play on the
wing.

993
00:50:36,859 --> 00:50:37,944
Matthews would go wing.

994
00:50:37,944 --> 00:50:41,880
Look at the World Cup when he was playing
with McDavid on Team North America.

995
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,971
face-off percentage and like his defensive
prowess, unless if he played like center

996
00:50:46,971 --> 00:50:51,599
position in the defensive zone and then
went winger in the offensive zone.

997
00:50:52,942 --> 00:50:57,586
I feel like you kind of just end up with
all-star rules at that point where you've

998
00:50:57,586 --> 00:51:00,569
got two centers on the first line and they
just figure it out.

999
00:51:00,569 --> 00:51:01,329
Like.

1000
00:51:01,660 --> 00:51:05,122
But they were so like hell bent on it like
yes, yes.

1001
00:51:05,650 --> 00:51:10,791
I see the only argument I'd make for the
Marner thing is you're getting two years

1002
00:51:10,791 --> 00:51:16,393
of Crosby at eight points or a year and a
half of Crosby at 8.7 and you're freeing

1003
00:51:16,393 --> 00:51:18,533
up that money for the rest of time.

1004
00:51:18,533 --> 00:51:22,194
But the downside is you don't have Mitch
Marner, which is what you're fucking

1005
00:51:22,194 --> 00:51:22,835
paying for.

1006
00:51:22,835 --> 00:51:28,656
So I don't see, I personally wouldn't make
that trade, but I understand the argument

1007
00:51:28,656 --> 00:51:29,436
to it.

1008
00:51:32,982 --> 00:51:33,603
hold that trigger.

1009
00:51:33,603 --> 00:51:38,411
But again, I really hope that they can
figure things out with him money wise.

1010
00:51:38,411 --> 00:51:42,579
But if it makes more sense to bring in,
you know, if we have to do we have to

1011
00:51:42,579 --> 00:51:43,772
resign Joseph Wall?

1012
00:51:43,772 --> 00:51:45,656
This is pure fantasy talk, by the way.

1013
00:51:45,656 --> 00:51:47,659
Like, we're just shooting the shit here.

1014
00:51:49,506 --> 00:51:51,618
Do we have to re-sign Joseph Wall this
year?

1015
00:51:51,618 --> 00:51:53,603
we have Wall again next year at 766.

1016
00:51:53,603 --> 00:51:54,288
Yeah.

1017
00:51:54,626 --> 00:51:58,089
Oh, but we don't have Jones, Sammy.

1018
00:51:58,089 --> 00:52:01,753
So, I mean, if you have to bring in a
goalie to back up Joseph Wall, that you've

1019
00:52:01,753 --> 00:52:04,975
got to spend a little money on to make
sure that it's solid.

1020
00:52:05,677 --> 00:52:11,142
You're bringing in a defenseman like,
yeah, there's a couple of things that like

1021
00:52:11,142 --> 00:52:14,405
if it's this or Nylander, it's got to be a
really good this.

1022
00:52:14,886 --> 00:52:19,389
I just I would rather them work out
bringing me Willie back.

1023
00:52:19,729 --> 00:52:19,999
Me too.

1024
00:52:19,999 --> 00:52:25,210
At this point, we have $33.4 million of
available cap next year.

1025
00:52:25,754 --> 00:52:27,095
Oh yeah, there's a lot.

1026
00:52:27,826 --> 00:52:33,352
I mean, yeah, a lot, but then when you
take off, Nylander, Nylander Bertuzzi,

1027
00:52:33,352 --> 00:52:40,320
Domi, Robertson, Greger, McMahon, Brody,
Lillagren, Benoit, Lagasin, Lajois,

1028
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,605
Sampsonov, Jones, Giordano.

1029
00:52:44,605 --> 00:52:45,106
Like.

1030
00:52:45,106 --> 00:52:48,318
I think he might have played his best game
as a Leaf Saturday night.

1031
00:52:48,318 --> 00:52:49,259
so too.

1032
00:52:50,661 --> 00:52:54,306
Like, yeah, you can obviously replace all
these guys, but like for 33 million,

1033
00:52:54,306 --> 00:52:57,249
that's, you know, that's gonna get eaten
up pretty quick.

1034
00:52:58,108 --> 00:52:59,709
with the cap increase.

1035
00:53:00,702 --> 00:53:02,190
Yeah, it's four million.

1036
00:53:02,190 --> 00:53:05,365
Is that with the cap increase study or
Banner?

1037
00:53:05,827 --> 00:53:08,232
I'm sorry, I'm just trying to find it back
here.

1038
00:53:08,493 --> 00:53:10,697
That's with the cap at 87.5.

1039
00:53:11,981 --> 00:53:12,842
So yes.

1040
00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:15,039
See, that's tough.

1041
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:16,260
Like, what's that?

1042
00:53:16,260 --> 00:53:18,620
One, two, three, four, five, six.

1043
00:53:19,301 --> 00:53:23,943
Yeah, you've got Robertson, Greger,
McMahon, Lagosan, and LeJoy, and Joseph

1044
00:53:23,943 --> 00:53:28,624
Wall, all on sub league men contracts.

1045
00:53:28,645 --> 00:53:30,490
Like, that's something that.

1046
00:53:30,490 --> 00:53:33,382
Joseph Wall still there next year at that
price?

1047
00:53:33,590 --> 00:53:37,896
But that's what I mean is like most of
your team that is filling out these side

1048
00:53:37,896 --> 00:53:43,404
spots are on contracts that on paper don't
actually qualify.

1049
00:53:43,404 --> 00:53:46,228
Matthew Nyes is at 925 this year and next.

1050
00:53:46,228 --> 00:53:47,504
Like, I don't know, I just.

1051
00:53:47,504 --> 00:53:50,766
Go ahead.

1052
00:53:50,766 --> 00:53:52,728
What kind of made like Saturday Night
Special?

1053
00:53:52,728 --> 00:53:56,731
Like all these players on that type of
contract contributed so much.

1054
00:53:56,731 --> 00:54:00,794
It was great to see, because we don't
often see that many people on that type of

1055
00:54:00,794 --> 00:54:02,995
contract contributing to the Leafs.

1056
00:54:03,102 --> 00:54:03,422
Yeah.

1057
00:54:03,422 --> 00:54:06,463
And then next year it's do you want those
guys back because they've proven

1058
00:54:06,463 --> 00:54:10,684
themselves or do you try to find nine more
needle in the haystacks like Dubas was

1059
00:54:10,684 --> 00:54:11,464
doing every year?

1060
00:54:11,464 --> 00:54:16,126
Like it's do you want to keep rolling the
dice with the people on the outskirts of

1061
00:54:16,126 --> 00:54:17,926
the lineup or do you sign William
Nylander?

1062
00:54:17,926 --> 00:54:19,867
And that's kind of what it's coming down
to.

1063
00:54:19,947 --> 00:54:24,788
Like it's he's the biggest piece of the
pie that takes probably four guys, five

1064
00:54:24,788 --> 00:54:27,609
guys out of the lineup, like 10, 10
million.

1065
00:54:27,609 --> 00:54:28,369
That's.

1066
00:54:28,926 --> 00:54:33,625
five guys making two that's four guys
making two and a half you know

1067
00:54:35,986 --> 00:54:39,890
I think that's the math people got to
start looking at is like as much as we

1068
00:54:39,890 --> 00:54:42,693
love it, I just I also don't want the rest
of the team.

1069
00:54:43,335 --> 00:54:45,684
I just don't want the rest of the team to
get hurt for it.

1070
00:54:45,684 --> 00:54:49,071
I got the biggest blinders on right now
that we don't have to fucking look at

1071
00:54:49,071 --> 00:54:49,372
that.

1072
00:54:49,372 --> 00:54:51,617
This year is fantastic so far.

1073
00:54:51,617 --> 00:54:53,219
Let's roll with it.

1074
00:54:53,526 --> 00:54:58,649
Let's let's go to questions from the
Twitterverse here.

1075
00:54:58,649 --> 00:55:02,150
So Lucas Hainsworth, Luke, man, what
strategies or tactics do we employ to

1076
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:05,271
maintain control throughout the game?

1077
00:55:05,352 --> 00:55:08,773
You guys are more up on the actual play of
hockey than I am.

1078
00:55:08,773 --> 00:55:09,993
So you want to take it.

1079
00:55:13,112 --> 00:55:16,414
I'm going to say their best defense is
their offense.

1080
00:55:16,414 --> 00:55:21,058
When they start cycling and having puck
domination, that's when they're the best

1081
00:55:21,058 --> 00:55:21,818
team.

1082
00:55:22,259 --> 00:55:25,702
Even when it goes into their defensive
van, they have quick breakouts.

1083
00:55:26,042 --> 00:55:27,384
These guys are an offensive team.

1084
00:55:27,384 --> 00:55:28,424
That's what they are.

1085
00:55:28,424 --> 00:55:32,447
So when they're playing that type of game,
they win a lot more than they lose.

1086
00:55:34,635 --> 00:55:39,899
And the beauty of it right now is with
some of the additions and the way that

1087
00:55:39,899 --> 00:55:44,042
they play, it's brought a little bit of a
different aspect to it.

1088
00:55:44,042 --> 00:55:48,745
And we've mentioned a couple times how
even just like Matthew Nyes, for instance,

1089
00:55:48,745 --> 00:55:51,626
he's got the skill, but he throws his body
around.

1090
00:55:51,687 --> 00:55:53,128
He's not afraid to go in the corners.

1091
00:55:53,128 --> 00:55:55,029
He almost likes to go in the corners.

1092
00:55:55,549 --> 00:56:00,192
So you have the skill to control and
dominate when you have the puck.

1093
00:56:00,193 --> 00:56:03,514
And then when you don't have the puck,
you're not afraid to go and get it.

1094
00:56:03,911 --> 00:56:06,213
and the impact that's had on the rest of
the team.

1095
00:56:06,213 --> 00:56:11,320
So Nye's playing like that on the same
line with Marner and Matthews directly

1096
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,222
impacting that.

1097
00:56:13,222 --> 00:56:18,127
And then you have Domi, who is just like a
dog on a bone.

1098
00:56:18,949 --> 00:56:20,343
Like he does not stop.

1099
00:56:20,343 --> 00:56:23,969
offensively, especially like with
Robertson going to, that's a huge

1100
00:56:23,969 --> 00:56:28,495
difference between having an offensive
third line and like a shut down third.

1101
00:56:31,122 --> 00:56:34,623
Yeah, and I think what this team has
struggled with is what does the third line

1102
00:56:34,623 --> 00:56:38,464
do other than just hold the puck in the
offensive zone for like a minute until the

1103
00:56:38,464 --> 00:56:39,324
lines change.

1104
00:56:39,324 --> 00:56:40,864
And it's like, well, that's great.

1105
00:56:40,864 --> 00:56:44,746
And all it's better than the puck being in
our end, but nobody got a shot off.

1106
00:56:44,746 --> 00:56:47,487
So Just kind of killing time.

1107
00:56:47,487 --> 00:56:51,548
So it's nice that it seems that they're
finally clicking, they're producing their

1108
00:56:51,988 --> 00:56:56,309
The confidence is I think the other the
other thing right like the team plays like

1109
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:57,602
they know

1110
00:56:57,602 --> 00:56:58,562
that they can make that pass.

1111
00:56:58,562 --> 00:57:01,305
They know they can push through those two
defensemen in front of the net.

1112
00:57:01,305 --> 00:57:06,349
It's taking that extra chance that you
know you have the skill advantage there.

1113
00:57:06,349 --> 00:57:10,172
You know you have that extra foot of space
that you needed to make that play.

1114
00:57:10,172 --> 00:57:15,276
I think whatever it was that flipped their
confidence back on at the end of the

1115
00:57:15,276 --> 00:57:17,677
Columbus game I think carried over, like
you said.

1116
00:57:18,004 --> 00:57:22,889
Yeah, and I think if you have Robertson
and especially Domi playing with like

1117
00:57:22,889 --> 00:57:26,593
great confidence, that makes a huge
difference in this team.

1118
00:57:26,814 --> 00:57:31,699
Like Domi from right now to the beginning
of the season, totally different player.

1119
00:57:32,166 --> 00:57:35,547
Oh yeah, I mean we were wondering if he
was just going to finish the season all

1120
00:57:35,547 --> 00:57:42,169
assists and not score like it was getting
brutal But now it seems like he's found

1121
00:57:42,169 --> 00:57:48,711
what his place is on this team and like
you said Robertson too Okay next question

1122
00:57:48,731 --> 00:57:54,333
Fun guys Hothpock Cal start bench cut so
start Domi and Mitch combo bench Ron

1123
00:57:54,333 --> 00:57:56,333
McLean cut Jonas Siegel

1124
00:57:57,702 --> 00:57:59,090
Well, not even.

1125
00:57:59,090 --> 00:58:01,663
Easiest question in the whole fucking
universe.

1126
00:58:01,862 --> 00:58:03,684
Yeah, that's, I like that it's just.

1127
00:58:03,684 --> 00:58:08,596
Seagull's been so roasted on Twitter the
last 24 hours, he hasn't tweeted, he's in

1128
00:58:08,596 --> 00:58:10,399
a cubbyhole somewhere right now.

1129
00:58:11,530 --> 00:58:14,976
What's funny is there's no parameters for
this.

1130
00:58:14,976 --> 00:58:19,485
It's just these are the one I like,
something that's okay and something I

1131
00:58:19,485 --> 00:58:20,365
don't like.

1132
00:58:22,038 --> 00:58:22,920
So good.

1133
00:58:23,091 --> 00:58:25,830
He's busy drawing Dubas' tears right now.

1134
00:58:26,730 --> 00:58:30,299
If there's been so many good memes about
him in Doos, it's fantastic.

1135
00:58:30,650 --> 00:58:36,212
Oh yeah, I'm just looking at a picture
from at Mario Cosentino.

1136
00:58:36,812 --> 00:58:39,874
Yeah, there's like stuff written on the
wall and Dubus is like, here, I'll just

1137
00:58:39,874 --> 00:58:41,695
share that.

1138
00:58:41,695 --> 00:58:44,056
This picture is yeah, I'm gonna pull it up
here.

1139
00:58:44,056 --> 00:58:45,636
This picture is so funny.

1140
00:58:46,997 --> 00:58:47,747
Bum, bum, bum.

1141
00:58:47,747 --> 00:58:49,979
this much shit as he has right now.

1142
00:58:52,388 --> 00:58:54,470
No, no, that's not even the one, that's
not even the one.

1143
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:59,355
I'll f- I'll- You guys keep going, I'll
find it.

1144
00:59:00,511 --> 00:59:02,958
I was just like, what did I get myself
into?

1145
00:59:02,958 --> 00:59:05,885
It's like, dude, I could have stayed in
Toronto.

1146
00:59:05,885 --> 00:59:11,257
I sold my house in a really bad time to
sell my house in Toronto, you dick.

1147
00:59:13,746 --> 00:59:16,888
Okay, what are we else we got here for
questions.

1148
00:59:16,888 --> 00:59:19,170
So TJ, TJ 47772409.

1149
00:59:21,672 --> 00:59:28,098
That's a fake at so give, give Matthews
extra rest and give Domi one C.

1150
00:59:28,098 --> 00:59:31,621
So give Matthews an extra game off and
start Domi on the first line center.

1151
00:59:31,621 --> 00:59:32,561
What do you think?

1152
00:59:34,203 --> 00:59:38,116
No, definitely not, because we've got New
York again on Tuesday, and they're gonna

1153
00:59:38,116 --> 00:59:40,402
be out for blood after we shitkick them.

1154
00:59:40,852 --> 00:59:41,278
100%.

1155
00:59:41,278 --> 00:59:45,332
Yeah, and while you have John Tavares
healthy, he's the number one center of

1156
00:59:45,332 --> 00:59:47,036
Matthews is down, I think, right?

1157
00:59:48,879 --> 00:59:52,224
Yeah, well, and then Tuesday is also, I
think, going to be the one they give the

1158
00:59:52,224 --> 00:59:53,025
ceremony for.

1159
00:59:53,025 --> 00:59:57,932
Tavara is hitting a thousandth point, so
we want to make sure we, you know, put on

1160
00:59:57,932 --> 00:59:59,974
a good effort for our captain.

1161
01:00:00,514 --> 01:00:02,376
nice.

1162
01:00:02,376 --> 01:00:06,060
So last one here from Mikey D.

1163
01:00:06,060 --> 01:00:11,847
I am so sorry, Mikey D of the believers
pod for forgetting believers pot earlier.

1164
01:00:11,847 --> 01:00:13,008
It's been a long week.

1165
01:00:15,652 --> 01:00:16,686
Yeah, he can come on.

1166
01:00:16,686 --> 01:00:20,211
at a very steady shadow at the end at
least.

1167
01:00:22,460 --> 01:00:24,549
Cause we fucking love Mikey D.

1168
01:00:24,873 --> 01:00:25,534
Yeah.

1169
01:00:25,537 --> 01:00:26,479
Come on.

1170
01:00:27,290 --> 01:00:29,571
start bench cut Timmy's items.

1171
01:00:29,752 --> 01:00:35,376
He says I'm starting large double benching
hockey cards or Timbits and cutting Boston

1172
01:00:35,376 --> 01:00:37,117
cream because not a fan.

1173
01:00:37,317 --> 01:00:48,485
So in the correct format of our start
bench cut, let's go with what do we do

1174
01:00:48,485 --> 01:00:48,986
like

1175
01:00:48,986 --> 01:00:51,813
sandwiches, baked goods, and hot drinks.

1176
01:00:51,855 --> 01:00:54,361
Start one, bench one, cut one for Timmy's.

1177
01:00:55,167 --> 01:00:57,830
You have to pick one of each or just pick
the category.

1178
01:00:57,886 --> 01:01:02,356
I think categories, like you have to
start, bench or cut one of.

1179
01:01:02,356 --> 01:01:03,441
Can we go off the board?

1180
01:01:03,441 --> 01:01:06,655
Because I feel their coffee is the worst
in League.

1181
01:01:07,967 --> 01:01:09,782
Dark roast, their dark roast is the best.

1182
01:01:09,782 --> 01:01:15,529
But do you think there's other hot, like,
okay, so like you can say cut beverages

1183
01:01:15,529 --> 01:01:16,209
then.

1184
01:01:16,624 --> 01:01:19,295
Yeah, cut beverages, cut beverages.

1185
01:01:21,868 --> 01:01:23,814
Anything after that, whatever you want to
do.

1186
01:01:23,814 --> 01:01:25,761
Timbits, hockey cards are fine.

1187
01:01:25,761 --> 01:01:26,905
The food is fucking shit.

1188
01:01:26,905 --> 01:01:29,291
I fucking hate Tim Hortons more than
anything.

1189
01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:36,587
Sandwiches and other like sandwiches,
wraps, bowls, baked goods, so muffins and

1190
01:01:36,587 --> 01:01:39,389
donuts and cookies and stuff and
beverages.

1191
01:01:39,389 --> 01:01:41,469
Those are the three categories start bench
cut.

1192
01:01:43,018 --> 01:01:46,012
So you're start, you're benching, sorry,
you're cutting.

1193
01:01:46,012 --> 01:01:48,079
Okay, cool.

1194
01:01:49,116 --> 01:01:53,404
Starting baked goods, I'm cutting
beverages, and then we're gonna play

1195
01:01:53,405 --> 01:01:54,787
whatever's after that.

1196
01:01:55,586 --> 01:02:00,017
your benching sandwiches and other menu
items.

1197
01:02:00,017 --> 01:02:01,726
Yes, they're my middle for sure.

1198
01:02:04,438 --> 01:02:05,611
Boehner, what do you think?

1199
01:02:06,207 --> 01:02:07,531
Starting the drinks.

1200
01:02:08,015 --> 01:02:09,758
Dark roast all day every day.

1201
01:02:09,758 --> 01:02:10,342
Oh my god.

1202
01:02:10,342 --> 01:02:13,382
Ha ha ha.

1203
01:02:13,697 --> 01:02:17,364
I'm sorry I won't spend eight dollars on a
fucking Starbucks.

1204
01:02:17,698 --> 01:02:20,607
Buddy, McDonald's coffee's better than
Tim's coffee.

1205
01:02:20,607 --> 01:02:21,908
Oh yeah, okay.

1206
01:02:22,729 --> 01:02:27,494
Anyways, coffee, baked goods, everything
else.

1207
01:02:28,846 --> 01:02:29,707
Starting...

1208
01:02:30,411 --> 01:02:31,252
Beverages.

1209
01:02:31,252 --> 01:02:35,642
beverages, benching, baked goods, and then
the sandwiches and all that.

1210
01:02:36,206 --> 01:02:37,367
No, no, no.

1211
01:02:37,467 --> 01:02:39,288
I'm just trying to figure out what he was
doing.

1212
01:02:39,288 --> 01:02:45,550
So I'm gonna do, I'm gonna start, oh man.

1213
01:02:46,471 --> 01:02:53,934
Probably, okay, I'm starting baked goods
because though they are kind of hit and

1214
01:02:53,934 --> 01:02:58,135
miss, they've got some good, the muffins
that have the cream cheese icing inside

1215
01:02:58,135 --> 01:03:01,437
them, the carrot cake one with the cream
cheese in it or a pumpkin pie one with it,

1216
01:03:01,437 --> 01:03:02,497
those are good.

1217
01:03:02,737 --> 01:03:03,917
Those ones are good.

1218
01:03:04,538 --> 01:03:07,401
I like me, sorry Mikey, I like me a Boston
cream.

1219
01:03:08,303 --> 01:03:10,065
The apple fritters are pretty good.

1220
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:13,227
two best things from Tim Warden's right
there.

1221
01:03:14,059 --> 01:03:17,201
they've got some decent baked good items.

1222
01:03:17,462 --> 01:03:18,523
The cookies are okay.

1223
01:03:18,523 --> 01:03:20,445
I'm not a big Tim's cookie fan.

1224
01:03:20,445 --> 01:03:24,988
The reason I'm giving them the edge over
sandwiches is because the Turkey Bacon

1225
01:03:24,988 --> 01:03:29,052
Club used to be my favorite sandwich and
they changed it and ruined it.

1226
01:03:29,052 --> 01:03:30,533
It used to have honey mustard.

1227
01:03:30,533 --> 01:03:35,497
And as a child, when I was like, I don't
know if I like mustard, that was the thing

1228
01:03:35,497 --> 01:03:36,978
that introduced me to honey mustard.

1229
01:03:36,978 --> 01:03:38,680
And I was like, I actually like this.

1230
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,201
And then they were like, actually, we're
gonna change.

1231
01:03:41,322 --> 01:03:45,587
the bun and we're going to put mayo
instead of honey mustard and it's going to

1232
01:03:45,587 --> 01:03:47,069
be artisanal now.

1233
01:03:47,070 --> 01:03:47,931
I don't like it.

1234
01:03:47,931 --> 01:03:49,112
I mean, I don't not like it.

1235
01:03:49,112 --> 01:03:53,277
It's still just a turkey bacon club, but
it's not the Tim's Turkey Bacon Club.

1236
01:03:53,751 --> 01:03:55,312
And I hate Tim Hortons period.

1237
01:03:55,312 --> 01:03:58,374
So I, I should just remove myself from
this.

1238
01:03:59,435 --> 01:04:00,695
It's all on YouTube.

1239
01:04:01,163 --> 01:04:05,345
If you've been here since day one, I have
gone on a couple tie raids about Tim

1240
01:04:05,345 --> 01:04:05,845
Hortons.

1241
01:04:05,845 --> 01:04:07,346
I do not like Tim's.

1242
01:04:07,346 --> 01:04:09,286
I usually get horrible customer service
there.

1243
01:04:09,286 --> 01:04:11,827
When I go, I don't like the menu items.

1244
01:04:13,168 --> 01:04:17,430
I think Burger King has ruined this
company by constantly adding whatever menu

1245
01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:20,292
item didn't work for Burger King to the
Tim Hortons menu.

1246
01:04:20,292 --> 01:04:23,754
Like, it's so stupid.

1247
01:04:23,754 --> 01:04:25,818
of betting on the sins in a parley.

1248
01:04:25,818 --> 01:04:27,302
You just, you don't do it.

1249
01:04:27,302 --> 01:04:30,207
There's cardinal rules, you don't do it.

1250
01:04:31,259 --> 01:04:35,709
So, friends don't let friends bet on the
sands is our new motto here at Leafs Late

1251
01:04:35,709 --> 01:04:36,180
Night.

1252
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:40,530
huge platform that we're running right
now.

1253
01:04:40,711 --> 01:04:44,299
For anyone listening, don't let your
friends bet on sins.

1254
01:04:45,134 --> 01:04:47,846
So do you wanna end us off with what
happened there?

1255
01:04:47,846 --> 01:04:48,929
Oh, what's up, Boehner?

1256
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:51,718
Wendy's owns Tim's not Burger King.

1257
01:04:52,656 --> 01:04:53,098
Oh, 100%.

1258
01:04:53,098 --> 01:04:56,291
Oh, isn't it Burger King?

1259
01:04:56,291 --> 01:04:57,213
I thought BK did.

1260
01:04:57,213 --> 01:05:01,106
single, every single en route has Wendy's
and Tim's.

1261
01:05:01,276 --> 01:05:02,116
no.

1262
01:05:03,318 --> 01:05:07,461
No, Restaurants International is the
result of Burger King buying Tim Hortons.

1263
01:05:08,103 --> 01:05:09,925
so then they own Wendy's as well.

1264
01:05:10,652 --> 01:05:12,180
No, that's just a thing.

1265
01:05:12,180 --> 01:05:13,326
just Google it.

1266
01:05:15,734 --> 01:05:17,415
Wendy's Tim Hortons.

1267
01:05:18,837 --> 01:05:23,182
Murphy's success with combining coffee and
donuts with Wendy's fast food led to the

1268
01:05:23,182 --> 01:05:24,704
1995 merger.

1269
01:05:24,704 --> 01:05:29,329
Yeah, I'm talking in like 2016 Burger King
bought Tim Hortons.

1270
01:05:34,367 --> 01:05:35,974
Sorry, I'm trying to Google this as we go.

1271
01:05:35,974 --> 01:05:37,375
Horrible podcasting.

1272
01:05:37,375 --> 01:05:37,676
I know.

1273
01:05:37,676 --> 01:05:44,606
20 August 20 August 26 2014 Burger King
agreed to merge with Tim Hortons for $11.4

1274
01:05:45,388 --> 01:05:49,593
billion to create restaurant brands
international.

1275
01:05:51,056 --> 01:05:55,670
Also, tip-or-tens, if you're listening, we
will sponsor the Hello Review.

1276
01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:56,711
We love you.

1277
01:05:57,650 --> 01:06:02,331
Operating, yeah, operating revenue is a
$5.73 billion.

1278
01:06:02,331 --> 01:06:09,393
Yeah, I just, I feel like they lost touch
with what Tim Hortons meant to Canada and

1279
01:06:09,393 --> 01:06:14,294
Canadians and the like hometown classic
nostalgia vibes of it.

1280
01:06:14,294 --> 01:06:17,755
And they keep trying to add things that
like nobody asked for.

1281
01:06:17,755 --> 01:06:21,036
I don't need a lime Chipotle ghost pepper
bowl from Tim Hortons.

1282
01:06:21,036 --> 01:06:22,236
Are you insane?

1283
01:06:22,236 --> 01:06:27,550
Like put the money towards making the
coffee and the donuts.

1284
01:06:27,550 --> 01:06:28,670
taste better.

1285
01:06:28,670 --> 01:06:31,732
Like, no!

1286
01:06:31,932 --> 01:06:35,534
Remember when they had the Greek wraps and
that's where the, they introduced like

1287
01:06:35,534 --> 01:06:38,636
Greek wraps and potato wedges at one point
and then they were like, actually, the

1288
01:06:38,636 --> 01:06:41,657
potato wedges are probably a good idea and
they kept those around and they scrapped

1289
01:06:41,657 --> 01:06:45,539
like everything on that menu is a remnant
of an old bad idea.

1290
01:06:45,579 --> 01:06:48,341
Like it's so fucking annoying walking in
there.

1291
01:06:48,641 --> 01:06:52,783
Anyway, that's, that's my, my Tim's rant.

1292
01:06:52,783 --> 01:06:54,324
I'm going to, I could go on for so long.

1293
01:06:54,324 --> 01:06:56,878
I could do an entire podcast about Tim
Hortons.

1294
01:06:56,878 --> 01:07:02,136
Do you want to finish this off with how
the, uh, how the sense fucked you tonight?

1295
01:07:02,136 --> 01:07:03,896
No, I don't want to really, but I'm going
to.

1296
01:07:03,896 --> 01:07:07,478
Um, don't ever bet on the Sands because
they're the fucking shittiest team in the

1297
01:07:07,478 --> 01:07:08,138
whole world.

1298
01:07:08,138 --> 01:07:11,359
And if you have them in a parlay, they're
gonna fuck you out of a ton of money.

1299
01:07:12,220 --> 01:07:15,801
In my last two parlay's that I've had them
in, I've lost almost over a thousand

1300
01:07:15,801 --> 01:07:16,742
dollars.

1301
01:07:16,742 --> 01:07:21,743
I've hit 14 out of 16 and they're the one
team that has fucked me.

1302
01:07:22,144 --> 01:07:24,084
And I know the people are gonna say, why
didn't you cash out?

1303
01:07:24,084 --> 01:07:24,845
Why didn't you cash out?

1304
01:07:24,845 --> 01:07:28,506
Cause they didn't have an option because
the Sands were so fucking terrible.

1305
01:07:28,506 --> 01:07:31,632
They lost by so many fucking goals that I
couldn't do it.

1306
01:07:31,632 --> 01:07:34,574
Even tonight I had them by plus two five.

1307
01:07:35,755 --> 01:07:38,377
They were up in the first and then they
fucked me.

1308
01:07:38,438 --> 01:07:43,582
So if you have a friend who's trying to
bet on the sins, don't let them do it.

1309
01:07:43,583 --> 01:07:45,304
Be a real good friend.

1310
01:07:45,565 --> 01:07:47,686
Tap them on the shoulder and say no.

1311
01:07:48,167 --> 01:07:48,807
No.

1312
01:07:51,292 --> 01:07:52,651
Fuck those guys.

1313
01:07:52,857 --> 01:07:56,260
Oh my god that's I'm sorry I'm laughing
but it's

1314
01:07:56,260 --> 01:08:01,782
And if we ever have a podcast where I bet
on the sins again, send me to Gamblerz

1315
01:08:01,782 --> 01:08:04,443
Anonymous because that's where I deserve
to be.

1316
01:08:04,583 --> 01:08:07,264
I defied- I told Beaner this tonight.

1317
01:08:07,304 --> 01:08:12,747
I defied the gambling gods and they smited
me down.

1318
01:08:12,747 --> 01:08:17,489
I had a huge, huge parlay where I hit
everything tonight except for the sins and

1319
01:08:17,489 --> 01:08:19,770
I knew I shouldn't have done it, but I did
it.

1320
01:08:19,770 --> 01:08:24,151
I took my hand in the cookie jar and I got
fucked.

1321
01:08:24,667 --> 01:08:26,446
have to send you to Pinto Island.

1322
01:08:27,090 --> 01:08:27,243
EW

1323
01:08:27,243 --> 01:08:29,065
Oh, Pinto Island.

1324
01:08:29,687 --> 01:08:32,711
Oh, forgot about that one.

1325
01:08:33,152 --> 01:08:36,037
Do we think DJ's coach number five fired
of the year?

1326
01:08:36,037 --> 01:08:38,758
I can't believe we've had four fired by
December.

1327
01:08:38,758 --> 01:08:40,823
the next fucking coach to be fired.

1328
01:08:42,306 --> 01:08:45,233
They're chanting it, but I mean, Steyos
has doubled down.

1329
01:08:45,233 --> 01:08:47,077
been fired already, I don't think so.

1330
01:08:47,077 --> 01:08:51,526
I think Ann Lauer doesn't want that bill
on top of everything that's already gone.

1331
01:08:51,843 --> 01:08:56,909
you motherfuckers got me so heated right
now i am like clenching my hands i am

1332
01:08:56,909 --> 01:08:58,711
furious about this

1333
01:08:59,370 --> 01:09:01,199
Okay, quick change.

1334
01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:03,510
Who can name all the coaches that have
been fired this year?

1335
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:04,693
We'll finish with that.

1336
01:09:05,416 --> 01:09:06,911
I can't even think straight.

1337
01:09:06,911 --> 01:09:12,136
Craig Berube, Woodcroft, Evison.

1338
01:09:12,837 --> 01:09:14,738
Berube, Woodcroft, Evison.

1339
01:09:17,101 --> 01:09:18,482
Does Babcock count?

1340
01:09:19,266 --> 01:09:19,749
No.

1341
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:20,331
Um...

1342
01:09:23,956 --> 01:09:25,994
They didn't play a game before he got
fired.

1343
01:09:26,887 --> 01:09:28,328
Yeah, that's true.

1344
01:09:28,849 --> 01:09:29,750
Um...

1345
01:09:30,492 --> 01:09:32,914
Those are the only ones that jump out at
me right now.

1346
01:09:33,037 --> 01:09:36,446
I think that's it for room, yeah.

1347
01:09:36,568 --> 01:09:37,429
Oilers.

1348
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,066
Woodcroft, Everson, and Borubey.

1349
01:09:39,066 --> 01:09:40,633
Euler's Wild and St.

1350
01:09:40,633 --> 01:09:41,374
Louis.

1351
01:09:42,388 --> 01:09:43,423
Is that it?

1352
01:09:45,162 --> 01:09:46,289
I think that's it.

1353
01:09:48,123 --> 01:09:52,225
And I think that makes Martein Saint-Louis
like the sixth tenured coach in the league

1354
01:09:52,225 --> 01:09:52,986
right now.

1355
01:09:53,282 --> 01:09:54,190
Holy shit.

1356
01:09:54,190 --> 01:09:55,986
like him as a coach though.

1357
01:09:59,536 --> 01:10:04,307
So David Quinn has, I think, the best odds
to get fired next.

1358
01:10:05,406 --> 01:10:07,687
Yeah, now the third coach fired this
season.

1359
01:10:10,894 --> 01:10:12,421
Yeah, I'm surprised.

1360
01:10:12,421 --> 01:10:13,144
Like, I don't know.

1361
01:10:13,144 --> 01:10:16,517
With San Jose, it's the same thing I said
about the wild.

1362
01:10:16,754 --> 01:10:23,323
DJ Smith got it, Lane Lambert, Dave Quinn
after that, Sheldon Keefe is fourth.

1363
01:10:25,707 --> 01:10:28,588
Not a long tenure job, NHL coaches.

1364
01:10:29,192 --> 01:10:31,032
Mmm, it's a rough go.

1365
01:10:33,546 --> 01:10:35,292
Well, all right.

1366
01:10:35,292 --> 01:10:36,155
Thank you for tuning in.

1367
01:10:36,155 --> 01:10:37,178
It's been a fun one.

1368
01:10:37,178 --> 01:10:40,889
Lots of emotions, but what's that also?

1369
01:10:41,656 --> 01:10:46,286
Anybody listening if you want to
contribute to my parlay fund, please do so

1370
01:10:46,286 --> 01:10:49,451
because senators fucked me terribly.

1371
01:10:50,254 --> 01:10:50,916
Hehehe

1372
01:10:51,292 --> 01:10:53,486
It's the holiday season, I can use it.

1373
01:10:55,136 --> 01:10:57,025
Yeah, we'll have some shirts out.

1374
01:10:57,025 --> 01:10:58,329
Buy our new shirts.

1375
01:10:59,056 --> 01:11:00,119
Go fund me.

1376
01:11:02,238 --> 01:11:02,922
All right.

1377
01:11:02,922 --> 01:11:03,804
Thanks guys.

1378
01:11:03,948 --> 01:11:06,521
Appreciate having you on as always.

1379
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:09,254
When do the Leafs play next?

1380
01:11:09,254 --> 01:11:10,238
And who would...

1381
01:11:10,238 --> 01:11:11,082
New York?

1382
01:11:11,082 --> 01:11:11,704
Tuesday?

1383
01:11:11,704 --> 01:11:12,327
Rangers.

1384
01:11:12,327 --> 01:11:13,492
Eh, they're gonna have to look it up.

1385
01:11:13,492 --> 01:11:14,253
Thanks.

1386
01:11:14,638 --> 01:11:15,464
at home.

1387
01:11:16,507 --> 01:11:17,734
At home, John E.T.

1388
01:11:17,734 --> 01:11:20,306
gets his silver stick for a thousand
points.

1389
01:11:20,372 --> 01:11:21,237
Boom.

1390
01:11:22,678 --> 01:11:26,769
I was thinking when I was designing some
merch, we should do a calendar next year

1391
01:11:26,769 --> 01:11:31,641
that has all the Leaf games marked on in
the days, but like, it's a calendar of us.

1392
01:11:32,477 --> 01:11:34,106
So, nice.

1393
01:11:35,638 --> 01:11:38,343
So you can follow along with Leaf Games
and have some fun Leaf's late night

1394
01:11:38,343 --> 01:11:39,444
pictures, you know?

1395
01:11:41,930 --> 01:11:43,508
I don't know, just brainstorming.

1396
01:11:43,508 --> 01:11:43,931
Hahaha

1397
01:11:43,931 --> 01:11:47,498
It's all different cartoons of stuff we've
said on the pod over the years.

1398
01:11:47,682 --> 01:11:52,328
That's what I was trying to do, but you'll
see with the new stuff when it comes out.

1399
01:11:52,328 --> 01:11:53,129
Trying to play the outro.

1400
01:11:53,129 --> 01:11:53,969
There we go.

1401
01:12:02,384 --> 01:12:06,752
Also, Johnny, do you ever follow up on
that Canadian app singer who shorted

1402
01:12:06,752 --> 01:12:08,675
everybody and made a ton of money?

1403
01:12:08,921 --> 01:12:09,845
The what?

1404
01:12:10,696 --> 01:12:14,783
Remember when she sang that fucking
Canadian national anthem?

1405
01:12:14,985 --> 01:12:16,026
Super short.

1406
01:12:17,109 --> 01:12:18,591
Do we ever follow up on her?

1407
01:12:19,694 --> 01:12:21,055
What do you mean, what happened?

1408
01:12:21,930 --> 01:12:23,106
The huge under.

1409
01:12:23,106 --> 01:12:24,766
Oh, oh, we.

1410
01:12:25,926 --> 01:12:28,327
Oh, if there was a bet going on there.

1411
01:12:30,368 --> 01:12:31,068
Oh, my God.

1412
01:12:31,068 --> 01:12:32,328
No, we should check back.

1413
01:12:33,368 --> 01:12:35,089
So what's a fun little update?

1414
01:12:35,089 --> 01:12:39,130
What's happening with my soundboard here
is I know nobody cares about this, but I'm

1415
01:12:39,130 --> 01:12:40,210
really excited.

1416
01:12:40,450 --> 01:12:43,971
It's just a bunch of buttons with sounds
and used to be when I hit the sound.

1417
01:12:43,971 --> 01:12:46,932
It was like if you pressed it on a board,
it would just play it instantly.

1418
01:12:46,932 --> 01:12:50,773
But now when I click the sound, it loads
it to the bottom and I have to hit play.

1419
01:12:50,773 --> 01:12:51,777
So it gives me that little bit.

1420
01:12:51,777 --> 01:12:55,320
wanted this to be the last thing that we
heard in this podcast.

1421
01:12:56,962 --> 01:12:58,441
And you ruined it for me.

1422
01:12:58,441 --> 01:13:01,828
people love behind the scenes tech.

1423
01:13:01,828 --> 01:13:02,929
I can delete that.