Okay, so in our little pre show convo here, we went down a bit of a rabbit hole.
Anybody remember Jared Cowan?
So this started with people that were on Robita Island, we listed okay Robita,
Lupal, Muzzin, Murray, Klingberg we'll see, but then who?
Frankie Corrado.
And then the last one that came up was Jared Cowan.
So for anyone who doesn't remember he came over in the
Dion Faneuf to Ottawa trade.
He was a ninth overall pick in 2009 and I believe he suffered a concussion that Took
him out of the lineup and he didn't ever play again So he showed up for training
camp with the Avalanche in 1718 played one preseason game was cut and then he retired
so like the curious mind I am I was like, I wonder what he's doing now and Southey
Obviously, like, I mean, you know, they either sell cars or insurance, right?
That's usually it.
So I find searching his name Evolution Raw Dog Food.
And I'm like, OK, maybe it's just a guy with the same name.
And so going through this page, I look.
There's a few pictures.
Hard to tell he's got sunglasses and a hat on.
It's like, and a sun hat and sunglasses on.
Like, what are you doing?
Just like you don't want to be recognized.
So him and his wife produce raw dog food themselves.
It says here on their website, meet the owners.
Both Cassie and Jared are hands on throughout the process.
Prepare all the raw dog food, source all the supplements, package all the raw
meals, and deliver it right to your door.
Truly your labor of love.
So A, shout out to these guys.
That's a really cool way to transition out of an NHL career.
It's got to be a fun thing to just hang out with all your dogs all day.
I think it says they have four of them.
And B, as Sudhi mentioned before we got on here, if anyone's in Saskatoon area,
you've got to order this to have former ninth overall NHL pick Jared Cowan and his
wife.
show up to your door with dog food.
And it also sounds like really good food.
dog food, you can get a selfie and probably an autograph with that.
Oh, they also make cat food.
They have raw meat patties, freeze-dried raw, dry food, meaty bones, treats and
chews, puzzles and toys.
They have everything.
So this is just the last thing that you expect a retired NHL'er to be doing, but
good for Jared Cowan.
Yeah, and in no way are they catching strays here.
We are totally supportive of this.
This is awesome.
Yeah, this was more of just a shock, if anything.
Like I had to verify if this is in fact the same person.
And I mean, come at me if you can prove otherwise.
But everything I've found, this is them.
They're surprisingly are not a lot of people with that name.
Also, Malayne McCollock and Nathan Horton on Roboto Island.
Oh, of course, Nathan Horton, who we traded away and then traded back for, I
believe, if I'm not mistaken.
the second time he came to Toronto.
Oh my god.
We need to- Oh my god.
time, you're usually banished the RoboDog.
And just so everyone's aware, the whole conversation started because of these
amazing shirts.
Anybody who can see the video.
10 out of 10.
Joey Ferg on Twitter.
Yeah, the Miami like island vibes with Robo Island is so nice, like GTA Vice
City.
I was thinking we should make one that's like, you know, like the names, like
something and something and something and something, but just like all the names of
people on Robo Island.
See if people can put it together by looking at the names like, wait a second,
what are these guys all having?
Oh, no.
What does Robo think about this?
He's like a huge feather in his cap, right?
That's something that I guess is never talked about is like, why don't they ever
bring Stefan Robita on and ask him about how he feels about being like the namesake
for...
for it.
Like he had a pretty good career, whatever.
But like this is what he's known for now, especially in like in Leafs Nation.
Oh, there's young Lee fans that have no idea who he is or was.
Or just know that that's the name of the island.
Oh, man.
So I guess assignment America, as they used to say on AFV, find any retired NHL
who has an interesting career now, because, you know, not everybody makes
millions over the course of their NHL time and can comfortably retire.
So see if you can find anybody who's doing something different now.
Because, yeah, like every week we dig up.
Oh, where are they now people that you never thought about?
Like you didn't question where they went, but we're going to tell you.
New segment.
We've got to think of a name for it.
We should almost cut this so no one steals it.
Now we're going to just start it will be the first one.
So everybody will just everybody will know that we started it because that's
definitely how that's worked before.
Speaking of shirts, though, we have a bunch of new designs.
I know I've been talking about this for a while, but I finally spent a couple hours
yesterday leading up to and during the game.
Oops, I was working on design.
So there's a couple of new shirts hit in the store.
Some things have been talked about for a while.
Some inside jokes of this show, if you're if you're a fan.
And some just plain old Leafs late night fun retro style neon merch.
So yeah, cool stuff.
And then this show, if you have any ideas for things or if you want anything dropped
in there, shoot me a message and I can see what I can put together.
Cause shout out to Mikey, Mikey D of.
Oh my gosh.
I'm sorry.
I'm blanking on a show right now.
I feel so bad.
Somebody help me.
I know.
I need to like cut this and shout them out properly.
Fucking blo- Shout out to Mikey DFBleafers pod.
There you go.
for shooting me a couple messages.
I asked him for some input and he helped come up with a couple of designs you'll
see shortly.
So.
love you and we will properly plug you at the end of this pod, I promise.
Fuck me.
All right.
So we'll call it the duality of fan.
We went from like the weirdest, shittiest start to a game to the strangest comeback
to the biggest blowout of the season into back to back games.
And it showed every side of Leafs Nation.
So let's talk about that.
Come on.
Intro us.
I'm trying.
First, Mikey D in our intro.
Get it together, Johnny Ross.
FIRED!
You're never going to host again.
Okay, so I am not going to beat around the bush about this.
I turned off the Columbus game after the second period.
I know a lot of people also did the same and there was a bit of a war back and
forth because obviously the game ended very differently than the second period
ended.
So let's
not sugarcoat that.
You, I'm fucking done with this.
I'm prepared to talk about it at least, to air it out.
So what is it?
a Senator's Podcast at that point.
Oh, God, I might as well.
But at the same time, Columbus is known for blowing leads this year.
They have the most or in the top for first period goals or for not first period, but
scoring first, I think they said they're one of the top teams for scoring first,
but they're in the bottom of the league for standing.
So obviously they're horrible at holding onto a lead, but blowing a lead is one
thing, five nothing to a tie is.
That's insane.
Like, I mean, we saw the Leafs score four in a period and that was the most all year
and now five.
So let's talk about what it means to be fed up with the team and sticking through
and, you know, really what that game tested everybody for.
So go for it, Sadi.
I think we're coming from different angles here.
I wasn't super frustrated with them in that game.
They haven't lost in regulation in a long time.
I figured they were due.
And the fact that they came back in that game was a huge testament to how they've
been playing as a team game.
So I took that as a big win, not a loss.
Yeah, and look, I turned it off, obviously not no.
Like I turned it off after the result of the first 40 minutes, right?
Like, I had it playing in my office, and I could have gone back and I checked back
that it was five, three, and I was like, what the fuck's going on here, but I
didn't watch the period.
So I guess where I was coming from is that time is money.
Money is money.
I mean, there are people that paid to go to the game.
It's been said on other shows.
Like it's most people get to go to one game in their life, maybe like three tops.
Like if you're, you know, really lucky, you go to 10.
If you're working more.
But like the point is, it's not easy to go to Leaf games and people are there for an
entertaining experience.
And
The team did not deliver a product worth watching for an entire 40 minutes.
Look, I get it.
They had the dad's trip.
Ty definitely took them out.
Like, come on.
You don't think these guys had a fun night in New York before they came home after
that, that back to back like.
Of course they fucking did, but to say they didn't have like an experience in
that game, like the first 40 minutes, sure, but they were never louder as they
were in that last 20 minutes.
That was the experience.
Yeah, it's...
I've heard that arena in a long time.
100%
and I'm glad that it was loud.
his 60th goal.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
I'm glad it was loud.
Obviously, it's an insane thing to happen.
But like there were people leaving and I guess I'm just trying to say that I don't
blame people for leaving or turning it off at that point because of the expectation
of the product that was delivered.
Like this is not a team that you expect to just show up asleep against one of the
worst teams in the league, allow five goals against and basically just phone it.
Like what?
What are you?
like this is at least two hours of your time at that point, like two periods.
I mean,
So the entire time that Matthews has been there, they have historically shown up
late to every game versus a bottom feeder team.
There's okay showing up late and.
Okay but that first goal you've got Domi passing it right to Kent Johnson who
centers it to wide open line in front of the net who buries it one nothing.
I'm like that's not a good start but look shit happens.
Then the second goal where you have Riley just la de da throws it along the boards
like it from then on it was okay.
Nobody is here.
There's a difference between like a couple guys having an off night and the whole
team just.
really not trying.
Like I get it's shitty Columbus and they're not the best and yada yada, but
you gotta try.
Like, how many games are we into, like, double digits that they have not lost in
regulation?
So even if they did shit the bed in this game, whatever, it's a bad game, let's
chalk it up to that.
But they came back in the third and showed, like, what this team is actually
made of.
I thought it was a huge character win for- like, not- they didn't win the game, but
it was like a huge character moment for this team.
I don't- I don't get the shitting on it.
I'm glad that it happened.
I'm glad that they came back.
It does show a lot of growth in the team that they were able to turn it on.
I'm just saying that I am defending people that were like after 40 minutes of
gameplay of that they went, I don't need to watch another 20 tonight.
I have other shit that I can do.
There's dishes, there's laundry, there's like, you know,
There's life and it's like I said, it's an hour ish of your time, if not more that
you're committing to it like you got to spend your time wisely and if the
entertainment isn't there, I don't blame people for not sticking it through.
Like if you paid to sit in the game and you left that's kind of crazy like I don't
see the point in spending the money to go if you're going to leave after 40 minutes,
but like if you're at home.
i get sure that's fair meaner
I've left one sporting event early my entire life, and it was a
Marlies-Hershey's-Bears playoff game that the Marlies were already down.
I think it was 4-0 and allowed two short-handed goals in the same penalty.
So at that point I left, but I won those tickets.
I didn't even pay for them.
So that was a little bit of a different story.
think the Penguin game happens without how that Columbus game went through because
they bounce back in a certain way.
Yeah, go ahead.
Sorry, it's such a Petri dish.
Like for years, everybody's been saying, oh, the Leafs aren't any good in the
playoffs.
Leafs aren't any good in the playoffs because you can't outscore your problems
in the playoffs.
Now they're not outscoring their problems.
They're winning tight games, they're losing tight games.
So many losses in overtime.
Oh, but that's not conducive to a successful team.
Like Marty says it all the time lately on Twitter.
It's constantly moving the goalposts to fit your narrative, to create negative
press about the Leafs because it sells.
I guess there's an element of that because obviously with the most media around this
team everyone gets the clicks for you know Oh, we get to shit on the Leafs But I
think there's also an element of people are frustrated and if they don't see
growth out of this team There's more frustration right like we've seen year
after year with the same group no results in the playoffs So I think people are
raising the expectations in the regular season for like I don't care about the
points I want to see how you're winning the games
how you're showing up to these battles.
Like that's what people are looking for now instead of just regular season points.
That game was the growth though.
They went to the locker room after the second and said, fuck boys, they looked
each other in the eyes and they said, this is unacceptable.
This is not how we play.
It's not the team we are.
And they came out and they got a point out of it, right?
They scored fucking five goals in that period.
And they tally that afterwards.
I know, but they parlay that afterwards into a seven, nothing win against
Pittsburgh.
That, those two go hand in hand.
I don't disagree with that.
What I'm trying to say is that there's not negative media around everything.
We're not changing the goalposts on everything.
I think there's more scrutiny on this team.
There's more frustration from the fan base because we've gone through Kyle Dubas now
his entire era with the team and all we got was a first round victory.
I think people are more frustrated than ever because there's been little change
roster wise.
There's been little success difference.
We're basically.
there's been like 9 players, minimum, changed every year.
on the fringe, right?
Like we've seen the same core run back.
It's been the same, the same center of this team.
The guys that play 80% of the minutes are exactly the same.
Like we've, and we were told like, we're almost there.
We're almost there.
We're still almost there.
We're onto a new GM and all these guys' contracts are expiring.
I'm trying to defend the fact that I think people are more frustrated at this point
because the clock is ticking.
Like we're now at the point where we might lose William Nylander because there's no
money anymore.
Like that.
that whole era might be over where we've got him on the team at a nice deal.
Like people are mad and I don't blame them for being mad.
And I will say this, Toronto is a playoff based team at this point.
The ebbs and flows of a regular season are going to be hard to swallow.
Whether you're losing or winning, it doesn't really matter.
So you're going to go pretty hard into it.
But when it gets to playoff, that's when this team is actually going to show what
it's made of.
So until then, the storylines are going to go up, they're going to go down.
It's going to be...
Leafs Twitter is such a toxic place.
Are they gonna play Columbus in the playoffs?
Of course not, because they're horrible.
So does it matter that they're not great against Columbus that one night?
No, it really doesn't.
I'm just, I guess the gist of my whole thing here is, time is an investment and
you can spend it however you see fit.
And if the thing that you were spending it on is not delivering what you want it to,
you can walk away from that and I don't blame you.
vision into like what you expect them to do the whole season.
So they fucking they should embed this game.
The roof is collapsing.
We're going to go hard on it, whatever.
Onto the next game.
That's always what's going to be in a two game schedule.
Yeah, when
Yeah.
I don't know the numbers are only so much like shout out.
I love you Marty and I know you with the PSA is of their record and everything but
it's like I said people are looking at games differently like numbers are one
thing yet the points are great but it people look at how they show up to games
how they play how they win and how they lose and so when they lose badly or they
make shitty mistakes people are angry and I don't blame them.
Here's my last point on this, is they didn't lose badly.
They didn't lose badly, but they played horribly for 40.
They lost 40 minutes of the game, which I know is moving the goalpost by definition,
by changing the end time of the game.
But like when you play like that, yeah, it's just.
It wasn't a good look for the first 40 minutes, let's put it that way.
Like, that's not the team we expect.
Sammy led in bad goals.
Everybody was coughing the puck up like and they're playing a team that can't put
two and two together.
Like they literally just got rid of their coach like.
Mm-hmm.
But when you can play the majority of a game like that and still come back and
salvage a point, there is a bright side there.
The end.
No, go.
is a huge issue in that game, right?
He was a big, big problem.
They play so differently in front of him than they do even like Jones or Wall,
especially Wall.
exactly when you play badly, you want to at least be able to count on one thing
like and when your goalie is not there for you either, that's a problem.
So it's.
like when he got scored on into various like turns around he's like what the fuck
This is the one time he didn't put his glove over his mouth like that pretty much
sums it up
I think it was the last two, there was the one that went off his mask through the
five hole.
And there was another one that he just didn't see, it went over his shoulder,
like either the third or the fourth, they were just really bad.
The first two I don't blame him for because they were horrible turnovers.
Like that's...
they were all terrible, but he was especially bad.
Like he let them down in critical spots.
Yeah, I'm not saying it's the goalie's job to be the savior when the team's playing
like shit, but it's Exactly.
Okay, so moving on the grim The grimness came to an end pretty quick.
Obviously leaves fallen over time, but it's an absolutely insane comeback.
I would break it down, but I didn't watch it.
Yeah.
So before we move on to the next game anything
of note, like who really led this comeback?
Who flipped the switch to turn this into the comeback it was?
you would want to lead to come back.
always Matthews.
Matthews, the way he's been leading this team is unreal this year.
He is a true definition of the leader of this team.
It's not even in question anymore.
Like this is his team.
But like everybody, they flipped a switch and everybody was just going after it.
So did they all take like emergency after the second intermission or something?
Like, well, not even that.
I well, everybody's sick, apparently.
So was it like that's when the cold beds wore off and they weren't drugged up
anymore?
Or that's when they took some like, here, we got to get this in you to feel better.
They took the athletic greens, not a sponsor.
AG1, I think they're called now.
Who knows?
who fucking knows, but they turned it on.
They did it.
I'm glad they did, but obviously it burned the tank out on Matthews because him and
somebody else was absent last night.
Brody, right.
Shout out, buddy of mine, last minute, his girlfriend got them like hundred level
seats for that game.
And he's like, I haven't been to a game in 15 years.
I'm like, all right, let's go.
And sure enough, craziest game of the season.
So.
What a game to be at.
snaps, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, the duality of fan.
or last night rather.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
GM Kyle Dubas returns with Monsieur Spezza.
And I said last time they played the pens, like, what's the best way to stick it to
Dubas?
And everyone was saying when or, you know, what do we have to stick it to Dubas for?
It's like, well, because it's fun.
It's hockey.
But most people said when.
care about that.
Most people said win or blow them out.
So I'm glad that it didn't happen the first time, but it happened the second
time.
So here we are.
Seven nothing went over the Pittsburgh Penguins who are in a bit of a predicament
this year.
But let's get into it.
Let me pull up some stuff from the game here.
You guys wanna start her off?
I feel this was one of the most...
You go ahead.
Oh, I was just going to say like, welcome to the NHL Matthew Nyes.
Like, I've loved this kid forever.
And he's shown glimpses here or there.
But that is one of the best games he has played since he's come up, like getting
the Gordie Howe hat trick too.
Like
But I didn't even think like talent wise, it was his best game.
But just as he is as a hockey player, the fact that he stood up for Domi, he
realized that wasn't great.
His assist, his goal was fucking dirty as shit.
But that was one of his best all around games.
And that's something we can expect, I think, from him going forward.
Like, this guy is a beast.
He is going to manhandle people.
To me, he reminds me of like a prime Rick Nash.
Cause he's big, he'll cut to the net, he's got a wicked shot.
Like, he always definitely nastier.
But like every time he just drops his shoulder and cuts to the net, that's just
instantly what I think is Rick Nash from all those highlight reels in the early
thousands.
He's 21 years old and he's like just figuring out how big he is and how much he
can use his body as he's playing hockey with his skills.
So I think as he develops that, he's gonna be unreal.
Yeah, I mean, look, Thompson, Mr.
Tage Thompson that the fucking announcers always love to bring up, but it's just an
easy go-to for a big power forward these days.
But he didn't break out at 18, 19 into the star that he is now.
Like, yeah, I think you gotta figure out how to use your size, right?
Like you guys have been saying, like how do you use what has for the last 10-ish
years been
a disadvantage to your advantage.
Like how do you push through these fast people?
How do you make up for having a little less speed?
It's not easy, but I mean, look, Chris Crider out of nowhere standing in front of
the net scored like 40 goals two years ago.
So it's, I think once they figure it out, it's there.
So looking.
if you can develop your man strength and your skill, that's a huge asset.
And not many people do it.
But when you do, like you said, those type of players solve a sudden clicks.
So seventh goal of the season for Knives at the 1803 of the first there.
So right at the beginning.
And holy shit, immediately after like minutes later, like we said, getting into
a fight.
So Gordie Howe-Hattrick watch was on with 55 minutes left in the game.
All he needed was an assist.
So that's quite a way to start your first real year in the big leagues.
I'm really impressed by what we're seeing from him.
Don't, him and Domi, fuck.
well, and the way it happened too, it wasn't like one of them cheesy fights that
was staged or anything like that.
Like almost David Perron asked with what happened with Larkin.
Like he saw Domi go down, he felt it was dirty and he just went after it.
exactly what we've been asking for, right?
Like you said, it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't hugs after the whistle that turned into a
couple of shots.
It was like somebody jumping to the defence of another player, which is again,
exactly what we've been asking for.
Before we get too carried on, I feel that was a theme all night.
Like, they protected Jones.
They stood up for the players all night.
It was a very chippy affair for a Leafs game.
They showed a lot of oomph.
Yeah, I mean, Laggason and McCabe and Benoit have been fantastic at just
demolishing people the last couple of games.
And I love that they figured out, OK, we're going to do our thing instead of I
know that you guys have your system.
And I think they've shifted away as I've tried to shovel these guys into what Brody
and Geo have been doing.
They're like, just fucking hit somebody.
It works.
McCann, Legeuil, and Nyes, Robertson, all these young guys had a huge game tonight.
Last night rather.
Yeah, I'm just...
been playing great for the last handful of games he's come up.
It's like he does not want to be sent back down.
Yeah, Bobby McMahon, damn.
McNuggets and Timbits, that's my two food related guys on the team now.
Benoit with three hits last night.
So fantasy watch, pick him up if you need hits.
Also plus two on the night, two penalty minutes.
I mean, these guys that, again, I keep saying, are these the ones you wanna bring
to the playoffs, are starting to just become the everyday guys by default, that
they're here every day.
These guys are players that are hungry to play, they're eager to play, they don't
have any history with this team whatsoever, so it's a whole new chapter,
right?
and they're getting minutes.
Something that the Leafs are always incapable of giving new players.
who wasn't playing last night, right?
So everybody else gets to jump up a little bit, like especially Domi.
I thought he shined more than anybody else.
Yeah, and I think with the defense, like, yeah, we've had a lot of injuries last
year and they were flipping people around.
But this year, it's kind of been steady that it's been one person out, one person
out, one person out.
So the same group of guys have been with the team pretty much all year.
And these are guys that I don't think we're expecting to get.
Like, how many fucking NHL games have these guys played now?
Like, 25?
Some of them?
So that's experience that they would probably not have gotten this year if
everybody was healthy.
And, you know, you see...
things develop in that time, right?
So it's promising at least.
Absolutely, we traded for basically an older version of Benoit when we got Shen
last year.
That's exactly it.
fair.
Yeah, now you've got Benoit for cheaper.
So yeah, it would have been nice to keep Luke Shan for the vibes and the nostalgia
but
from last night is like these young players or players who have not played
with the Leafs for that long with Austin Malthus, he's like being out.
They just stepped up and showed what they can actually do for this team.
And it was very, very encouraging because we haven't seen a bigger group of players
doing what they did last night in a very long time.
Yeah, and I mean, this team has a bit of a streak of doing well with Matthews out.
I mean, it was a bit of a different makeup of the team, but this is the first time
this year where, like you said, like these guys have been faced with it.
And yeah, I agree.
They really stepped up to the plate and showed that Matthews can take a night off
every now and then.
And to be fair, he kind of has, while he's been there in the lineup.
So it was a nice test.
Hey, come on.
He's had...
He's had at least two or three nights of just kind of being there, and I don't
blame him.
Like, you can't give 100% every night through the regular season.
He's still got his defensive play, I haven't had much to complain about with
him this year.
I'm in Beener Island right now.
But is him playing a perfect offensive game him giving 100 percent.
Yes.
If that's what's needed, Johnny Myrtle.
If the offense isn't happening, then for sure it is.
At least he's not Johnny Seagull.
Did you fucking read the thing he wrote about Domi?
He's being roasted right now on Twitter.
What was it?
The Domi conundrum, I think it was.
And then Domi came out and got three points and just like, fuck you.
Womp Womp.
No, but look, do you pay?
Mitch Marner for the first time since London Nights days.
Huge for him.
Okay, I'm not gonna die on this hill.
I'm gonna go to bed.
No, no, let's segue.
So like we said, new guys.
We got Noah Greger, who I have really liked this year, finally after three shots
ends up scoring.
Again, just the guys stepping up to the plate.
I don't know what else to say.
Fuck, I love Greger.
Who else got one?
Tavares, Nylander.
Because I want to thought I was just going through the goals first to see if there
was anything that stood out there.
we'll save him, we'll save him.
Um, but yeah, where there's a wall, there's a way, because holy shit.
Listen, I was hot on them signing Jones in the off season.
I feel no one else really was.
I knew what this guy can bring.
He was huge for Seattle.
He was great for the Sharks.
And he's proving it right now.
We were so fucking lucky that he wasn't claimed off waivers.
Yeah, that was something that probably would have happened last year.
And I love that the player that would have been claimed had Dubas been the GM ends up
getting a shutout against Dubas.
The irony is not lost.
Is this like proof that all the GMs in the NHL hate Dubis because he came in and
tried to change the way people manage a team?
So it's like, okay, every single player he puts on waivers, even if we don't want
them, let's just take them.
It's proof of something that they irrationally took players off waivers for
him.
Look at it this way.
If somebody all of a sudden starts buying up all of the GameCube games off of Kijiji
in town, people are going to start going, oh, someone wants these and they'll start
charging more for them.
I don't value them myself.
But if somebody else is going to buy them, I will charge you $125 if that's what it
says it's worth online.
Like, it's kind of that mentality of if somebody else is putting a value on it,
then I sure like
Dubas likes this guy and he's putting him through waivers.
He can't keep him because of something.
Great, I'll take it.
Maybe I can trade it back to him for something if he wants this guy so bad.
Listen, he's not a Peter Murasic.
Like this guy was playing for Seattle last year in the second round of the playoffs
and putting up good numbers.
He is a good goaltender.
He's been around for awhile.
And the fact that he wasn't claimed, he's good, man.
He's, he's good.
He's a good goaltender.
I think that's what we're seeing is like San Jose has been a horrible team for a
long time.
And the guy was basically wasting away there.
And the years on Seattle are completely different.
And now we're seeing if you put a team in front of him, a complete team, because
Seattle is last year was kind of a storybook year for them.
Like Jared McCann scoring that much is not going to happen again, I don't think.
But look, he's now in a position where he's got a fully built team in front of
him.
And I.
I think it's doing well for him and as it should, right?
I think, until Wall comes back.
There's a reason Martin Jones has stayed in the league, even though he's sporting a
sub 900 every year.
Like there's people are seeing the saves that he is making regardless of how shitty
his team is and keeping him around.
So as our in-house goalie, what do you think of this meter?
So I was very adamant when he got signed that I was not necessarily happy with it
because I feared that this was basically another ticket for Wal to head to the
Marlies.
Because I love...
Yeah.
bump Wal down a spot?
Why did we give him this chance if we're just gonna bring in Jones?
No, exactly.
And that was my fear because I love Wall and I think I've got a lot of faith in him
for the future.
Yeah, so with Jones, the fact that we were able to keep him, like, he's had some
really good flashes, but it's been really difficult.
He had three seasons in San Jose when he was one of the best in the league.
And then.
just completely tanked after that.
Now, as Roscoe said, the team in front of him was kinda playing crappy.
Even last year with the crack and like an 887, that's not a great save percentage.
No, they were outscoring all of their problems.
They were letting in five and scoring six.
Like that was their whole year.
So you can kind of look at it.
It all depends on the team and how they're doing.
Like no offense to the guy, we turned Jack Campbell into an All-Star, right?
Like look at what LA is doing right now.
They've built a team and they don't even care who the hell's in that.
Whoever is in that out there is doing well.
Phoenix Copley, can't tell but couldn't stop a beach ball last year and he's
playing great right now.
Like different goalies depending on their style.
play better under different systems.
Wall is a very efficient goaltender and he plays very well for us.
Sammy is not.
Sammy is an acrobatic goalie.
Now he did have a good season last year, but everyone can have a flash in the pan.
So this might be a little bit of that reverting back to it.
Jones has been around long enough that he can play that very structured system, so.
Interesting.
Well, thank you for the Inside the Goalie Mask take.
Oh, we should go inside the goalie mask.
he's a lot more just like system player, whereas you said Sammy, he'll rise
confidence, he's a hot type, he's like a 90s, like Felix Potluck type of goalie,
right?
If he's on, he's really great.
If he's not, you better score like six goals.
And look, this team can do that eight out of 10 times.
I said this earlier, I think Wall is our most important player going forward.
This is our guy.
He is gonna lead us to wherever we go.
There's obviously Matthews and all these guys, but I think he is the most important
player going forward.
Yeah, I think we're finally seeing the culmination of a lot of development with
him.
Like they were very careful about not bringing him up too early.
Like for the entire existence of this podcast, I've been asking where the hell
is Joseph Wall?
So now we're here, he's here and he's great.
So I'm glad that they trusted their system and waited until he was absolutely ready
and confident that he could do it because it's paying off.
So this begs the question, what do they do going forward?
Do we trade Sammy before the trade deadline, who's Jones, our second
goaltender?
That's one of the biggest questions that has to be going forward with the Leafs.
Well, I mean...
this point, sorry Roscoe, at this point you almost have to move them.
Yeah, I was just going to say there's a lot of teams looking for goalies.
that like the money too, it just makes so much sense for a trade.
Can you trick Edmonton into taking another goalie?
Maybe I'll do one.
Like, oh, yeah, see, Ottawa's a pretty frequent trade partner with the Leafs.
there.
I'm just very bitter about Ottawa tonight.
We're not going to talk about that, but.
But no, I think you do have to at least look at it, but I don't think it's as
pressing now that Klingberg's LTI-ard for the rest of the season.
You've got a bit of a juggle going on here.
We heard, I mean, we haven't talked about Ryan Reeves going down in the most bizarre
way possible.
He's not expecting to...
to Robot Island.
He's not expected to miss significant time, but they did move Gio to LTIR, I
believe, today was the move.
So.
like this gold tender controversy is not going to be a thing going forward,
especially with Toronto media or like Toronto, like Twitter verse, whatever you
want to like phrase it as it's going to be a thing.
Yeah, like what do you do when you've got all three of them healthy?
Like who do you send?
Like you can't, god damn.
I mean, you could try to send Jones down, but after that performance, I don't know
if he'll clear waivers again.
See you soon.
Keep Wallen Jones and send Sammy down.
If someone claims them, okay yeah, you lose them for nothing, but you're not
paying that salary.
It's honestly...
you throw them in for like cap just to make it work money wise.
I would rather lose them on waivers than pay somebody to take them, but I don't see
anyone claiming that contract off waivers, but
chance.
Yeah, I think the position of power in the trade is the person with the goalie, not
the person looking for one.
Like, you know, you can say the contracts not greater, he's been questionable all
you want, but you need a goalie and I have one.
So do you want them or not?
right.
And at that point, like you'd have to let Sammy take the net for a while to show
that he is capable of, you know, being worth a trade, right?
Yes and no because goalies are notoriously kind of fucked in the head and that's
coming from a goalie and a lot of goalie coaches are former goalies.
So I can pretty much guarantee you there is at least one if not a handful of goalie
coaches in their GM's ear right now saying, hey, we can save him.
We can turn him into an all-star.
Get him.
It's funny what you're saying because Edmonton is not like a terrible candidate
for this right now, like...
Picard is doing terrible, um...
Like, all their goaltenders are fucking terrible.
Yeah, it's just the story would be crazy that like, we're just kind of if the
goalie doesn't work here, we ship them off to Edmonton.
Like, is that the deal?
Oh, my god.
I don't.
But yeah, like I said, I don't think it's as pressing like before the deadline.
Maybe Yeah, it.
I think it could be an interesting piece.
Now that this has all shaped up this way and Jones's
is playing well.
If you're looking for a defenceman, you now have Sammy as a bargaining chip that I
don't think you thought you had two weeks ago.
So that becomes a factor in trades.
So, yeah, could be interesting what Brady can cook up.
right?
It is making me worried that the Calgary flames that he built are continuing to
suck.
Not giving me much faith in the moves he's gonna make, but we'll see.
We'll see.
I'm opposite of you, I think.
I got a lot more faith in him than you do.
I'm not saying I don't have faith in him, I'm just saying it worries me a little
that the people that he brought in Calgary are all slow, but whatevs.
Well, yes and no, he was forced to trade his best player for pennies on the dollar.
And like that being said, at the time we all thought he made a decent deal.
But like that's not a, you're not dealing from a position of strength there.
I mean, yeah, you gotta figure out, Hubert O.
Anyway.
one of his deal right now?
Those guys are fucking saddled with that.
Whoo, you talking about Roman Island?
Jesus.
Yeah.
uh...
Also speaking of goalies, shout out again to Hildeby, he's still lighting it up in
the AHL.
Nice, love that, love to hear it.
He'll be...
goals against average 929 save percentage
Hmm.
be a battle between him and a wall one day.
So last thing, GM Kyle Dubas, throwing a bit of a fit.
A couple of people that missed the game were asking if he was there, shout out to
Sarwa.
He was, and he was not happy.
You could tell he...
for post-game media either.
Of course he wasn't.
I'd say by go three or four, he was crushing some empty bottles back there
with his angry fists.
have like classic woover, he stood up, moved the vest like that, sat back down,
and Jason Spetson was writing, We fucking suck in his notebook.
Hahaha
Oh, what does this team do?
It's exactly what we expected.
one of Crosby's last great years.
Like he's having a Renaissance right now.
This guy is playing unreal.
They move the farm to get Carlson.
They re up their goaltender.
Malcolm's playing like shit.
Like, what do they do here?
Honestly, like the move was bringing Eric Carlson in for the last hurrah, you know,
go for one more.
And now you're kind of stuck with that contract for more than a couple of years.
Like, I don't know, man.
God we didn't trade for him.
And he tried so many times.
I feel so bad for Crosby right now, like I really, really do.
Yeah.
to put it into context, Crosby is what, 36?
Yep.
Yeah.
So he's on pace for like 50 goals this year, right?
for the second time ever, ladies and gentlemen, we'll hit that.
Gretzky's 36 age year hit 25.
No, he's unreal, right?
Like, he's playing as if he's playing when he was like 29 right now.
Like, his game is...
unbelievable.
But they just can't put it together around him.
And I don't like that's Dubas's job.
Like when your star is playing his best season ever and the team around him sucks,
like, sorry.
Like, I don't know.
is?
You train him to Colorado.
He plays with Nathan McKinnon, another fucking coal harbor boy.
One, two punch.
Hmm.
I don't know if he'd wave.
No, I think Crosby's more worried about his legacy there.
trade it, that's where he goes.
It would be Montreal if anywhere I grew up a Habs fan.
Oh god, they're so fucking god-awful, he would never finish his career there.
They're way too shitty.
Guess how many goals Alex Ovechkin's on pays for.
10.
Under like 25, 20.
who hasn't scored in 11 or 12 games.
Yeah, that's a real problem.
How do I do this math again?
It's like.
Which is kind of crazy because he is like, as a power play specialist, he's on the
top of the circle, he gets the one timer, he claps it in.
It's not very skilled, it's just a great shot and it's not been working.
for yeah, for years, everybody's just always said, plant someone on him like
you're shorthanded.
You're already down.
Yeah, just someone else can score.
I don't care.
He's not scoring because that's all he did was stand there and shoot.
And he still got his goals every game.
we used to play against someone who was way better than anyone on our team and our
coach would assign someone, be like, don't do anything except for be on this guy's
shadow.
That's all you do all game.
So he is on pace, if my math is correct, for 14 or 15 goals this year.
He's got five goals through 28 games.
He hasn't scored, I think, in like 12 games now.
If he finishes the year with anything under 20, he has never finished a season
with a one as the first digit in his goals.
How many does he have until Gretzky's record?
and do something I think.
He's at 827, so...
Yep, so 68, 69, something like that.
Quick math in my head.
Not looking good.
one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine 50 goal seasons.
No.
What the fuck out of here?
That's crazy.
aside for Matthews, he's the best goal scorer in the last 20 years.
Because Matthews has better numbers.
yeah, well, I mean, 52 goals in his first year with the Caps.
obviously Ovi does but
Yeah, it's just, it's, on one end it feels like the end of an era with Ovi, and on
the other side with Crosby, it feels like, you know, he's got more in the tank and
what do you do?
more years in the tank.
Again, I mean, we felt that way about Ovi last year, so you never know.
I think you got to treat every year like, you know, if he's on this year, you got to
use it while it's here.
the discrepancy is huge this year.
Yeah, and it has never been through their entire run together.
You also have to look at the style of game they play too, right?
Like, oh yeah, so Crosby's style is more conducive to being better over the long
term.
Really, because I would think that Ovi's style is easy, like to stand there in a
spot and wait for the puck to shoot it, like seems pretty light on your body.
But he's been doing just that for so long that that's all he has now.
Right?
Like what?
What?
The what?
Yeah.
Performance anxiety.
No.
Like when he came in, he was deking, he was running through guys, he was doing
everything.
And then over the course of a handful of years, it turned into just shot after shot
after shot.
Whereas Crosby, if he snake bit.
Okay, he's still winning draws.
He's still playing defensively.
I know you don't think that's important, Roscoe, but
god, that's not what I said.
He dominates offense on the boards like he cycles like no other he plays a full game
Yeah, exactly.
He does the to pull a Don Cherry.
He does all the little things, right?
Like he so if even if it's not going well for him on the score sheet, he still has
other aspects to the game to bring and the more you're out there, the more you're
doing, the better chance it is that you're going to catch fire again.
Right?
Like he he's not just skill.
He has the hard work to go with the skill.
So from Sportsnet, I was listening to the podcast the other night with JD Bunkhiss,
Sam McKee, and Justin Bourne.
And they were saying, would you trade Crosby for Nylander or Marner?
And they all said yes.
And I didn't know how to feel about that.
yes as who as to wrong?
Yes.
Not okay.
Here's no, it's not completely irrelevant.
We can we can segue to this.
The only way like if they brought in some defensemen through a trade that they were
going to resign, that was going to cost a bit of money that made it so that Nylander
was impossible.
That may be at the deadline if we're like, guys, this is the year.
Nylander's not gonna resign.
He's told us, like, if you can't offer me this much, and they say we can't, that's
if in that world, in that box, send Nylander to Pittsburgh to do this.
is like you send him off to another team to win a cup within one or two years,
right?
Is it the Leafs?
Is it the Avalanche?
Like, would you actually do that?
Did I hear you wrong there, Sully?
Did you say Nylander and Marner or Nylander or Marner?
Okay, I thought you said and.
That's what I was like, no, absolutely not.
We're not doing both of them.
up Marner or like, or Neylander?
I guess the idea with moving Marner is to free up cap space over a longer period of
time.
Cause what's Crosby's contract like right now?
it, and like, would I actually do this?
And it's enticing, it's hell, but...
I'm not sure I would.
Where does he play?
Because Tavares is your second line center, Matthew is obviously your first.
Tavares is way too slow to play on the wing.
Matthews would go wing.
Look at the World Cup when he was playing with McDavid on Team North America.
face-off percentage and like his defensive prowess, unless if he played like center
position in the defensive zone and then went winger in the offensive zone.
I feel like you kind of just end up with all-star rules at that point where you've
got two centers on the first line and they just figure it out.
Like.
But they were so like hell bent on it like yes, yes.
I see the only argument I'd make for the Marner thing is you're getting two years
of Crosby at eight points or a year and a half of Crosby at 8.7 and you're freeing
up that money for the rest of time.
But the downside is you don't have Mitch Marner, which is what you're fucking
paying for.
So I don't see, I personally wouldn't make that trade, but I understand the argument
to it.
hold that trigger.
But again, I really hope that they can figure things out with him money wise.
But if it makes more sense to bring in, you know, if we have to do we have to
resign Joseph Wall?
This is pure fantasy talk, by the way.
Like, we're just shooting the shit here.
Do we have to re-sign Joseph Wall this year?
we have Wall again next year at 766.
Yeah.
Oh, but we don't have Jones, Sammy.
So, I mean, if you have to bring in a goalie to back up Joseph Wall, that you've
got to spend a little money on to make sure that it's solid.
You're bringing in a defenseman like, yeah, there's a couple of things that like
if it's this or Nylander, it's got to be a really good this.
I just I would rather them work out bringing me Willie back.
Me too.
At this point, we have $33.4 million of available cap next year.
Oh yeah, there's a lot.
I mean, yeah, a lot, but then when you take off, Nylander, Nylander Bertuzzi,
Domi, Robertson, Greger, McMahon, Brody, Lillagren, Benoit, Lagasin, Lajois,
Sampsonov, Jones, Giordano.
Like.
I think he might have played his best game as a Leaf Saturday night.
so too.
Like, yeah, you can obviously replace all these guys, but like for 33 million,
that's, you know, that's gonna get eaten up pretty quick.
with the cap increase.
Yeah, it's four million.
Is that with the cap increase study or Banner?
I'm sorry, I'm just trying to find it back here.
That's with the cap at 87.5.
So yes.
See, that's tough.
Like, what's that?
One, two, three, four, five, six.
Yeah, you've got Robertson, Greger, McMahon, Lagosan, and LeJoy, and Joseph
Wall, all on sub league men contracts.
Like, that's something that.
Joseph Wall still there next year at that price?
But that's what I mean is like most of your team that is filling out these side
spots are on contracts that on paper don't actually qualify.
Matthew Nyes is at 925 this year and next.
Like, I don't know, I just.
Go ahead.
What kind of made like Saturday Night Special?
Like all these players on that type of contract contributed so much.
It was great to see, because we don't often see that many people on that type of
contract contributing to the Leafs.
Yeah.
And then next year it's do you want those guys back because they've proven
themselves or do you try to find nine more needle in the haystacks like Dubas was
doing every year?
Like it's do you want to keep rolling the dice with the people on the outskirts of
the lineup or do you sign William Nylander?
And that's kind of what it's coming down to.
Like it's he's the biggest piece of the pie that takes probably four guys, five
guys out of the lineup, like 10, 10 million.
That's.
five guys making two that's four guys making two and a half you know
I think that's the math people got to start looking at is like as much as we
love it, I just I also don't want the rest of the team.
I just don't want the rest of the team to get hurt for it.
I got the biggest blinders on right now that we don't have to fucking look at
that.
This year is fantastic so far.
Let's roll with it.
Let's let's go to questions from the Twitterverse here.
So Lucas Hainsworth, Luke, man, what strategies or tactics do we employ to
maintain control throughout the game?
You guys are more up on the actual play of hockey than I am.
So you want to take it.
I'm going to say their best defense is their offense.
When they start cycling and having puck domination, that's when they're the best
team.
Even when it goes into their defensive van, they have quick breakouts.
These guys are an offensive team.
That's what they are.
So when they're playing that type of game, they win a lot more than they lose.
And the beauty of it right now is with some of the additions and the way that
they play, it's brought a little bit of a different aspect to it.
And we've mentioned a couple times how even just like Matthew Nyes, for instance,
he's got the skill, but he throws his body around.
He's not afraid to go in the corners.
He almost likes to go in the corners.
So you have the skill to control and dominate when you have the puck.
And then when you don't have the puck, you're not afraid to go and get it.
and the impact that's had on the rest of the team.
So Nye's playing like that on the same line with Marner and Matthews directly
impacting that.
And then you have Domi, who is just like a dog on a bone.
Like he does not stop.
offensively, especially like with Robertson going to, that's a huge
difference between having an offensive third line and like a shut down third.
Yeah, and I think what this team has struggled with is what does the third line
do other than just hold the puck in the offensive zone for like a minute until the
lines change.
And it's like, well, that's great.
And all it's better than the puck being in our end, but nobody got a shot off.
So Just kind of killing time.
So it's nice that it seems that they're finally clicking, they're producing their
The confidence is I think the other the other thing right like the team plays like
they know
that they can make that pass.
They know they can push through those two defensemen in front of the net.
It's taking that extra chance that you know you have the skill advantage there.
You know you have that extra foot of space that you needed to make that play.
I think whatever it was that flipped their confidence back on at the end of the
Columbus game I think carried over, like you said.
Yeah, and I think if you have Robertson and especially Domi playing with like
great confidence, that makes a huge difference in this team.
Like Domi from right now to the beginning of the season, totally different player.
Oh yeah, I mean we were wondering if he was just going to finish the season all
assists and not score like it was getting brutal But now it seems like he's found
what his place is on this team and like you said Robertson too Okay next question
Fun guys Hothpock Cal start bench cut so start Domi and Mitch combo bench Ron
McLean cut Jonas Siegel
Well, not even.
Easiest question in the whole fucking universe.
Yeah, that's, I like that it's just.
Seagull's been so roasted on Twitter the last 24 hours, he hasn't tweeted, he's in
a cubbyhole somewhere right now.
What's funny is there's no parameters for this.
It's just these are the one I like, something that's okay and something I
don't like.
So good.
He's busy drawing Dubas' tears right now.
If there's been so many good memes about him in Doos, it's fantastic.
Oh yeah, I'm just looking at a picture from at Mario Cosentino.
Yeah, there's like stuff written on the wall and Dubus is like, here, I'll just
share that.
This picture is yeah, I'm gonna pull it up here.
This picture is so funny.
Bum, bum, bum.
this much shit as he has right now.
No, no, that's not even the one, that's not even the one.
I'll f- I'll- You guys keep going, I'll find it.
I was just like, what did I get myself into?
It's like, dude, I could have stayed in Toronto.
I sold my house in a really bad time to sell my house in Toronto, you dick.
Okay, what are we else we got here for questions.
So TJ, TJ 47772409.
That's a fake at so give, give Matthews extra rest and give Domi one C.
So give Matthews an extra game off and start Domi on the first line center.
What do you think?
No, definitely not, because we've got New York again on Tuesday, and they're gonna
be out for blood after we shitkick them.
100%.
Yeah, and while you have John Tavares healthy, he's the number one center of
Matthews is down, I think, right?
Yeah, well, and then Tuesday is also, I think, going to be the one they give the
ceremony for.
Tavara is hitting a thousandth point, so we want to make sure we, you know, put on
a good effort for our captain.
nice.
So last one here from Mikey D.
I am so sorry, Mikey D of the believers pod for forgetting believers pot earlier.
It's been a long week.
Yeah, he can come on.
at a very steady shadow at the end at least.
Cause we fucking love Mikey D.
Yeah.
Come on.
start bench cut Timmy's items.
He says I'm starting large double benching hockey cards or Timbits and cutting Boston
cream because not a fan.
So in the correct format of our start bench cut, let's go with what do we do
like
sandwiches, baked goods, and hot drinks.
Start one, bench one, cut one for Timmy's.
You have to pick one of each or just pick the category.
I think categories, like you have to start, bench or cut one of.
Can we go off the board?
Because I feel their coffee is the worst in League.
Dark roast, their dark roast is the best.
But do you think there's other hot, like, okay, so like you can say cut beverages
then.
Yeah, cut beverages, cut beverages.
Anything after that, whatever you want to do.
Timbits, hockey cards are fine.
The food is fucking shit.
I fucking hate Tim Hortons more than anything.
Sandwiches and other like sandwiches, wraps, bowls, baked goods, so muffins and
donuts and cookies and stuff and beverages.
Those are the three categories start bench cut.
So you're start, you're benching, sorry, you're cutting.
Okay, cool.
Starting baked goods, I'm cutting beverages, and then we're gonna play
whatever's after that.
your benching sandwiches and other menu items.
Yes, they're my middle for sure.
Boehner, what do you think?
Starting the drinks.
Dark roast all day every day.
Oh my god.
Ha ha ha.
I'm sorry I won't spend eight dollars on a fucking Starbucks.
Buddy, McDonald's coffee's better than Tim's coffee.
Oh yeah, okay.
Anyways, coffee, baked goods, everything else.
Starting...
Beverages.
beverages, benching, baked goods, and then the sandwiches and all that.
No, no, no.
I'm just trying to figure out what he was doing.
So I'm gonna do, I'm gonna start, oh man.
Probably, okay, I'm starting baked goods because though they are kind of hit and
miss, they've got some good, the muffins that have the cream cheese icing inside
them, the carrot cake one with the cream cheese in it or a pumpkin pie one with it,
those are good.
Those ones are good.
I like me, sorry Mikey, I like me a Boston cream.
The apple fritters are pretty good.
two best things from Tim Warden's right there.
they've got some decent baked good items.
The cookies are okay.
I'm not a big Tim's cookie fan.
The reason I'm giving them the edge over sandwiches is because the Turkey Bacon
Club used to be my favorite sandwich and they changed it and ruined it.
It used to have honey mustard.
And as a child, when I was like, I don't know if I like mustard, that was the thing
that introduced me to honey mustard.
And I was like, I actually like this.
And then they were like, actually, we're gonna change.
the bun and we're going to put mayo instead of honey mustard and it's going to
be artisanal now.
I don't like it.
I mean, I don't not like it.
It's still just a turkey bacon club, but it's not the Tim's Turkey Bacon Club.
And I hate Tim Hortons period.
So I, I should just remove myself from this.
It's all on YouTube.
If you've been here since day one, I have gone on a couple tie raids about Tim
Hortons.
I do not like Tim's.
I usually get horrible customer service there.
When I go, I don't like the menu items.
I think Burger King has ruined this company by constantly adding whatever menu
item didn't work for Burger King to the Tim Hortons menu.
Like, it's so stupid.
of betting on the sins in a parley.
You just, you don't do it.
There's cardinal rules, you don't do it.
So, friends don't let friends bet on the sands is our new motto here at Leafs Late
Night.
huge platform that we're running right now.
For anyone listening, don't let your friends bet on sins.
So do you wanna end us off with what happened there?
Oh, what's up, Boehner?
Wendy's owns Tim's not Burger King.
Oh, 100%.
Oh, isn't it Burger King?
I thought BK did.
single, every single en route has Wendy's and Tim's.
no.
No, Restaurants International is the result of Burger King buying Tim Hortons.
so then they own Wendy's as well.
No, that's just a thing.
just Google it.
Wendy's Tim Hortons.
Murphy's success with combining coffee and donuts with Wendy's fast food led to the
1995 merger.
Yeah, I'm talking in like 2016 Burger King bought Tim Hortons.
Sorry, I'm trying to Google this as we go.
Horrible podcasting.
I know.
20 August 20 August 26 2014 Burger King agreed to merge with Tim Hortons for $11.4
billion to create restaurant brands international.
Also, tip-or-tens, if you're listening, we will sponsor the Hello Review.
We love you.
Operating, yeah, operating revenue is a $5.73 billion.
Yeah, I just, I feel like they lost touch with what Tim Hortons meant to Canada and
Canadians and the like hometown classic nostalgia vibes of it.
And they keep trying to add things that like nobody asked for.
I don't need a lime Chipotle ghost pepper bowl from Tim Hortons.
Are you insane?
Like put the money towards making the coffee and the donuts.
taste better.
Like, no!
Remember when they had the Greek wraps and that's where the, they introduced like
Greek wraps and potato wedges at one point and then they were like, actually, the
potato wedges are probably a good idea and they kept those around and they scrapped
like everything on that menu is a remnant of an old bad idea.
Like it's so fucking annoying walking in there.
Anyway, that's, that's my, my Tim's rant.
I'm going to, I could go on for so long.
I could do an entire podcast about Tim Hortons.
Do you want to finish this off with how the, uh, how the sense fucked you tonight?
No, I don't want to really, but I'm going to.
Um, don't ever bet on the Sands because they're the fucking shittiest team in the
whole world.
And if you have them in a parlay, they're gonna fuck you out of a ton of money.
In my last two parlay's that I've had them in, I've lost almost over a thousand
dollars.
I've hit 14 out of 16 and they're the one team that has fucked me.
And I know the people are gonna say, why didn't you cash out?
Why didn't you cash out?
Cause they didn't have an option because the Sands were so fucking terrible.
They lost by so many fucking goals that I couldn't do it.
Even tonight I had them by plus two five.
They were up in the first and then they fucked me.
So if you have a friend who's trying to bet on the sins, don't let them do it.
Be a real good friend.
Tap them on the shoulder and say no.
No.
Fuck those guys.
Oh my god that's I'm sorry I'm laughing but it's
And if we ever have a podcast where I bet on the sins again, send me to Gamblerz
Anonymous because that's where I deserve to be.
I defied- I told Beaner this tonight.
I defied the gambling gods and they smited me down.
I had a huge, huge parlay where I hit everything tonight except for the sins and
I knew I shouldn't have done it, but I did it.
I took my hand in the cookie jar and I got fucked.
have to send you to Pinto Island.
EW
Oh, Pinto Island.
Oh, forgot about that one.
Do we think DJ's coach number five fired of the year?
I can't believe we've had four fired by December.
the next fucking coach to be fired.
They're chanting it, but I mean, Steyos has doubled down.
been fired already, I don't think so.
I think Ann Lauer doesn't want that bill on top of everything that's already gone.
you motherfuckers got me so heated right now i am like clenching my hands i am
furious about this
Okay, quick change.
Who can name all the coaches that have been fired this year?
We'll finish with that.
I can't even think straight.
Craig Berube, Woodcroft, Evison.
Berube, Woodcroft, Evison.
Does Babcock count?
No.
Um...
They didn't play a game before he got fired.
Yeah, that's true.
Um...
Those are the only ones that jump out at me right now.
I think that's it for room, yeah.
Oilers.
Woodcroft, Everson, and Borubey.
Euler's Wild and St.
Louis.
Is that it?
I think that's it.
And I think that makes Martein Saint-Louis like the sixth tenured coach in the league
right now.
Holy shit.
like him as a coach though.
So David Quinn has, I think, the best odds to get fired next.
Yeah, now the third coach fired this season.
Yeah, I'm surprised.
Like, I don't know.
With San Jose, it's the same thing I said about the wild.
DJ Smith got it, Lane Lambert, Dave Quinn after that, Sheldon Keefe is fourth.
Not a long tenure job, NHL coaches.
Mmm, it's a rough go.
Well, all right.
Thank you for tuning in.
It's been a fun one.
Lots of emotions, but what's that also?
Anybody listening if you want to contribute to my parlay fund, please do so
because senators fucked me terribly.
Hehehe
It's the holiday season, I can use it.
Yeah, we'll have some shirts out.
Buy our new shirts.
Go fund me.
All right.
Thanks guys.
Appreciate having you on as always.
When do the Leafs play next?
And who would...
New York?
Tuesday?
Rangers.
Eh, they're gonna have to look it up.
Thanks.
at home.
At home, John E.T.
gets his silver stick for a thousand points.
Boom.
I was thinking when I was designing some merch, we should do a calendar next year
that has all the Leaf games marked on in the days, but like, it's a calendar of us.
So, nice.
So you can follow along with Leaf Games and have some fun Leaf's late night
pictures, you know?
I don't know, just brainstorming.
Hahaha
It's all different cartoons of stuff we've said on the pod over the years.
That's what I was trying to do, but you'll see with the new stuff when it comes out.
Trying to play the outro.
There we go.
Also, Johnny, do you ever follow up on that Canadian app singer who shorted
everybody and made a ton of money?
The what?
Remember when she sang that fucking Canadian national anthem?
Super short.
Do we ever follow up on her?
What do you mean, what happened?
The huge under.
Oh, oh, we.
Oh, if there was a bet going on there.
Oh, my God.
No, we should check back.
So what's a fun little update?
What's happening with my soundboard here is I know nobody cares about this, but I'm
really excited.
It's just a bunch of buttons with sounds and used to be when I hit the sound.
It was like if you pressed it on a board, it would just play it instantly.
But now when I click the sound, it loads it to the bottom and I have to hit play.
So it gives me that little bit.
wanted this to be the last thing that we heard in this podcast.
And you ruined it for me.
people love behind the scenes tech.
I can delete that.