Tesla to Mars - The Podcast

A deep dive that bridges 5,000 years of engineering with the frontier of AI and robotics. From Demian’s on-site exploration of Egypt’s pyramids to Tesla’s chip strategy, CyberCab rollout and Optimus economics, this episode tracks how civilizations rise on manufacturing breakthroughs — and why we’re entering the next one.
The crew zoom out from the shareholder meeting headlines to the real story:
scale, compute, robotics, and the societal transition that follows.
What the pyramids were for ancient Egypt, the TeraFab and Optimus may become for us.

Check out:
- Robot IRL: https://x.com/robotinreallife
- Jeff Lutz: https://x.com/thejefflutz
- Larry Goldberg's Muskonomy 2.0 Article: https://x.com/TeslaLarry/status/1990060509979119670?s=20

In this episode
🏺 Ancient Tech, Modern Parallels — Why the pyramids look less like tombs and more like early gigafactories: pressure chambers, ammonia production, conductivity and large-scale industrial design.
🤖 Optimus Ramp & the Money Glitch — Elon’s claim of the fastest product scale-up in history, the economics behind a billion humanoids, and why labor decoupling changes everything.
🔌 Chips, Compute & the TeraFab — What Tesla’s chip strategy implies for AI scarcity, inference at planetary scale, and why data centers may move off-planet.
🚕 CyberCab & Unboxed Manufacturing — A new vehicle architecture, a new supply chain, and why robotaxis won’t just disrupt Uber — but the entire ICE market.
🌍 FSD Deployment Reality Check — Europe’s regulatory gridlock, loopholes used by early adopters, and geopolitical fragmentation in autonomous driving.
🛰️ Space-Based AI — The blueprint for AI data centers in space, Starship cadence, lunar cooling advantages, and the economics of off-world compute.
💸 The Next Economy — Deflation, unemployment, value creation without labor, and the tension between societal collapse and abundance-driven entrepreneurship.
🧭 A Pro-Human AI Future — What a “pro-human AI” actually means: preventing harm, augmenting human capability, and shifting from a money-driven to a value-driven society.

Creators and Guests

DB
Host
Demian Beenakker
Co-Host Tesla to Mars
FM
Host
Florian Minderop
Co-Host Tesla to Mars
KR
Host
Kees Roelandschap
Co-Host Tesla to Mars

What is Tesla to Mars - The Podcast?

Welcome to Tesla to Mars – The Ultimate Podcast on everything Tesla & Musk! 🚀

We offer you a unique European perspective on all things Musk – from Tesla, SpaceX, xAI, The Boring Company, and beyond.

🔹 Florian – Founder & CEO of MisterGreen, a pioneer in sustainable mobility, managing a fleet of 5,000 Teslas.
🔹 Kees – Chief Content Officer & Business Development at MisterGreen, expert in Full Self-Driving & European regulations.
🔹 Kenny – Founder & Managing Director of MAKE & Partners. Finance, M&A, and investment specialist. Tesla investor since 2019.
🔹 Demian – Founder of Next Level Human. Entrepreneur with a passion for Elon’s vision and future tech.

From Robotaxis and Optimus to Tesla Energy and stock insights – we break it all down.