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Hello everyone and welcome back to Bikinis
After Babies.

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Thank you so much for joining us today.

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I am one of your hosts, Mandy Rochon here
with your other amazing, beautiful,

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blonde, two weeks out host.

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The podcast host formerly known as Gillian
Dietface, Gillian Hughes.

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Well, I was telling Mandy that I feel like
it's a really good thing that we're

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recording today and like capturing the
feels because like earlier this week I was

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like, well, like it really like full good
mood, high spirits, like feeling really

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good.

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And I was like, this is weird, like to be
feeling this way.

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But I think it was just sort of like the
come down of all my travel is kind of done

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and the next.

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trip that I'm going on is my show.

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So I guess feeling like the release of
that we had a team show over the weekend.

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And then this morning, I mean, I just I'd
slept terrible.

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I have like a phantom period going on
right now.

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So all the symptoms and just like bloated
and even check in today.

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Wednesday is my check in day.

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I was like, I'm doing it tomorrow just
because I felt I knew it was going to mess

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with me way too much.

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-hmm.

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I usually check in Wednesday or sometimes
Thursday, but typically Wednesday and all

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week I'd been so excited to check in.

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And then I woke up this morning and I was
just like, not today.

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And yeah, so anyways, it's just a day.

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Monday and it does.

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It feels like sometimes I get so excited,
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wait to check in.

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And the last few check -ins have been a
little rough and they've just been

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different.

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They've been kind of all over the place,
but it's like you said, it's because

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there's been so much going on, so much
travel, so much different sleep, packing

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food, you know, just so much, a whole
bunch of different things going on.

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and whether it be like exciting or nerve
wracking or it's a type of stress and our

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body is gonna like react to it.

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So I was like, I was kinda like you like
Monday after the show, the show in here in

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Kansas City was absolutely fantastic.

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And it was amazing.

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It was so loud.

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It was way, way bigger and more exciting
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first year they had it.

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We had four athletes competing and you
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you know, there was, I ran into a lot of
people I hadn't seen in a long time and,

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it was a great venue and, you know, and
the crowd was just, you know, awesome.

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And like the format was nice too, like,
because they expected like smaller

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numbers, which they didn't get, they got
more people than they thought.

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They started a little bit later.

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So we had like a super chill morning
getting everybody ready and we didn't

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start to like 11 AM.

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So like normally we're like starting to
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happen.

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So it was, it was just really fun and just
coming home and everybody was.

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you know, just happy.

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And so, yeah, I mean, it was a sort of
like the exhaustion, but also like, you

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know, good vibes to which can kind of wear
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It's a lot of energy, you know, at this
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Yeah.

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it was so much energy.

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Like the, it was standing room for
prejudging.

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It was so loud and so crazy.

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And it was so much fun.

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Like just to be in the environment, the
turnout was absolutely fantastic.

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I mean, of course we have an idea on like
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know, you never know what the crowd is
going to be like.

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You never know the reaction.

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And it was, it was like wall to wall
standing room and finals was just insane.

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It was so much positive energy.

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And like you said, coming,

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Yeah, coming off that Monday, I felt
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I actually carb loaded because I was
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week.

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And so I was eating carbs going through
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know, we're two weeks out or, you know,
three weeks out, two and a half.

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And I knew I was like, okay, I'm going to
start dipping down here soon.

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So I, Monday I felt great.

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Tuesday I was getting a little sleepy.

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Today, today is Wednesday.

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I'm a little tired.

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A little, a little worn out.

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So, but it's getting that time and it's
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getting close to an end I have one more
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friday Yeah, friday i'm gonna go to sioux
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weekend after that I have to go to st
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in state cup i'm Ecstatic for him to watch
that Right and then right into peak week

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and then to omaha, so I still got a

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Like, you know, you've already done a show
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And so how are you feeling about this next
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I feel so different.

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I feel completely different.

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I feel that saying, you know, what is it?

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You shake the dust off your heels, you get
that first show jitters out.

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Exactly, yeah, you know what I'm talking
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I did that already.

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So going into this show is just, it's
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I have so many different things like.

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I wanna try to do a few things different.

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I wanna wear my hair different.

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I'm gonna change some posing, change some
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And I want to, it's more experimental.

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Also, because the show is two and a half
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lot of competitors.

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I know figure competitors, I know some of
the vendors.

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So this will be the first show I've ever
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there.

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So it's exciting.

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So I...

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It's different, but what about you?

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How are you feeling?

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You're about to have to hop on a plane to
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Yeah, I leave like two weeks tomorrow.

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So I feel more prepared than ever for a
show.

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I think sort of today, just sort of waking
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I should have explained what a phantom
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You can have all the symptoms of a cycle
on a period, but not actually have your

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bleed.

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And so, which is a positive thing because
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prep.

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It's a sign that your hormones are doing
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because it's not going to happen on show
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Like we just talked about on last week's
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your head because you just feel a little
bloated and I'm a little bit watery.

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And then the scale jumped up a little bit
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but prior to this, I had been feeling
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I've never spent this much time on posing
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coach who's very detailed looking at my
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I don't know that there's any way I could
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she was damn good but you know my gosh I
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And I have a lot of those too, like,
because I'm getting that little thing in

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my throat where I'm going to cry.

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Like I keep getting that feeling, the
emotions of it all.

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And I think that's just because it's been
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It's been, you know, that was two summers
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There was a show that happened in between
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that was a bad experience and it was a
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But, you know, I pushed through and did a
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know, I'm not.

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not proud of the photos and not proud of
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You know, I'm sure if you listen and
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I didn't look embarrassed myself, but you
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trying to just ignore and my waistline
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I lost some muscle because of, you know,
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So anyway, so it feels like it's been two
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just kind of like looking like almost
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like analyzing everything and just, I
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And why did I do that with my hand?

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You know, because I've learned so much,
like posing is like, you can never be

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like, okay, I'm done.

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I know everything about posing.

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You'll just always be learning and I'm
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lot of sessions together and then now I'm
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So I send over two videos every week
walking front pose back pose walk to the

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back walk to the front side transitions
everything and then she gives feedback and

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and she's like so awesome because she'll
give me really great feedback about my

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shape and how things are coming along
because she's been working with me since I

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was like 20 pounds heavier.

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And just, you know, watching my posing
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But yeah, I can't lie when I woke up this
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day.

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I was like, and then I'm having a bit of a
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I have to send my bottoms back because
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And so that I'm trying to not let myself
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I'm sure it's going to be fine.

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We have a holiday in the middle of this
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like, what if they don't get here in time?

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So that's just there's always there's
always something.

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But yeah, and I just genuinely feel like a
bag of shit.

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But that's prep.

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You know, it is.

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I actually, I did a photo shoot Sunday
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so I had digestion issues last week and it
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dealt with before.

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Everything just decided to run right
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I was so, I got so dehydrated on
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Yeah, Wednesday and I freaked out.

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I didn't know what to do.

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I felt like, I felt horrible.

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I felt crappy.

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I felt like,

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I felt like my uterus was a bowling ball.

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Like I just didn't feel good.

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Yeah, I just didn't feel great and I
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And I think we did, I tried to add a new
supplement and it had magnesium in it.

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I was already taking a magnesium
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So I was taking too much magnesium is what
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And so we switched that, we took, we'd
stop that.

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And then I reached out to my coach
immediately.

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So I do wanna make that clear.

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Like I, when something's not going right
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doctor.

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Like I won't.

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It has to be something like a flu or a
cold where I need like something of that

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nature.

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But like if something's going on with my
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go to my chiropractor, I will go to my
massage therapist.

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But anyway, so I went to my coach and she
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that supplement.

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She changed some, she wanted me to start
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things.

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So, but anyways, leading up to the
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I got better every day and it was nice.

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It was great.

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But Sunday I still was sore.

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My, my abdominal area was very tender, but
I had a photo shoot and it was funny

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because I had to tell myself, I'm like,
Mandy, even though you feel like you look

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like shit, you know, this is prep.

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you know you don't look like shit.

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Like you have to realize like it's all in
my head and it's fine.

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And the photographer I shot with, like
he's a good friend of mine.

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So like we had a lot of fun and it was
fun.

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But so this brings us to the topic today
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So after that photo shoot, my 14 year old
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finally come time for him to get a gym
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So I had to go to the gym that he's been
going to and sign him up with a membership

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and it's a corporate gym.

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Again, I just got done with the photo
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I was very shiny and in a tank top and you
could tell like, you know, I'm muscular.

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So like the girls, the sales girls at the
desk were like, you work out.

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I'm like, yeah, I'm signing my kid up.

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Like I just need to get him a membership.

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And they're like, we just started prep.

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And I was like, that's awesome.

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Like great for you.

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And, and they started telling me about
like their prep and they had just started

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working with a coach.

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And I was like, well, when are you going
to go?

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Like, when's your show?

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Like what show do you have in mind?

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And they're like, no, we're not gonna step
on stage anytime soon.

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We just started.

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And I've noticed this year, this trend
where girls think that they need this

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crazy amount of time.

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And I'm talking like a year or two years
to step on stage for the first time.

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And of course I just listened to them, but
I've heard this a few times.

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And so I thought today would be a great
topic to talk about when you know.

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how to get ready for a stage or when when
is a good time to step on stage.

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And how do you know if you're really
ready?

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And what if you're not ready?

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Cause that was sort of how I wanted to
take it too of like, you know, what if,

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what if you're not?

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So yeah, I love this topic because, I get
it a lot too.

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You know, I do all of our sales calls for
mom, shell method fitness, and I'll have

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somebody who's maybe seen one of our
competitors and been like, you know, we

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kind of gradually talk about prep and
everything.

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And we get to where I'm like, do you have
a show in mind or do you, you know, have a

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timeframe of, you know, and this might be
somebody who, you know, has never competed

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before, but you know, obviously they're
in.

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in the gym, they didn't just wake up and
decide, I'm going to do a bodybuilding

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competition having never worked out,
right?

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So, and they usually will be like, I'm
sure I won't be ready for a year or more.

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So.

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I mean, I do hear it a lot as well, which
I feel like in a lot of ways, I think that

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shows the athleticism and the
impressiveness of the physiques in our

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division, because I will tell you, there
was a time there where people talked about

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bikini competitions like they were like
Hawaiian Tropic and you could just like,

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you know, train for four weeks and then
just jump on stage like, you know, she

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looks pretty good.

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She could probably compete in four weeks,
like talking about like some girl who just

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started working out, which I found to be
really freaky.

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insulting because of how hard we work.

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I mean, we are training like bodybuilders.

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We just don't have the amount of muscle as
somebody in women's physique, in figure,

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in men's divisions.

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It doesn't mean that we work less hard
than they do.

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Like.

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but there's just everyone's structure is
going to be different.

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So I think in some ways it shows that
people understand that our sport is

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competitive.

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It takes a lot of work to get there.

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But also I don't take a client and like,
you know, say, yeah, sure.

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But you know, we're not going to compete
for two years.

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Like I think it's really hard to keep
somebody focused when they're like set

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show date is that far away.

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So.

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So yeah, what is your advice then if
somebody is, you know, in the gym and

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they've got some body fat, you know, like,
let's say they're sort of like, you know,

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sitting around maybe like 25, 30 percent
body fat, which is like pretty normal for

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like, you know, a lot of women that you
would describe as active and healthy and

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fit, not overweight in any way.

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But what would your advice be?

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So if you're already active in the gym and
you have the idea of wanting to do a

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competition, the first thing you do is
reach out to a competition coach, which

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we've gone over that before and we can go
over that on a different podcast.

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But once you find a coach that you like
working with and you feel comfortable

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with, you need to communicate with them
and say, I wanna do a competition.

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This is my physique.

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You go over all of the numbers and
information.

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But honestly, I feel like if you have...

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let's say 20 pounds to lose.

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Like in your guesstimating, of course, you
never really know until you get like

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leaner and leaner and leaner.

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And that's also the tricky thing is you
don't really know until you put yourself

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through the process.

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Because let's say you have 20, 25 pounds
that you wanna knock off with, you know,

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looking at your height and looking at like
the class you wanna do, you know, bikini.

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And so I would say, you know, give
yourself time, you know, pick a show

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that's like 30 weeks out and then start
prepping for the show.

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Give yourself a lot of time.

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Don't pick something that's gonna be
crammed into like, 12 weeks and you've

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never done a show and you just wanna jump
in.

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So give yourself time, work with your
coach, and then as you go through like

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those 30 weeks and you get closer and
closer, you allow your body to transform,

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to change.

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Because yeah, you've been going to the gym
for a while now and yeah, you've been

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eating healthier and that's great, but it
takes a little bit more discipline when

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you decide to do a prep.

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You know, you need to get used to prepping
your food.

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You need to get used to like having a very
structured gym regimen and get used to

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checking in every week.

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Most coaches will have you check in every
week.

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Maybe some will do every two weeks, but
when you do your check -ins, you want to

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allow yourself time to have your body
change and transform.

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So I, I'd like to shoot for like 30, 25
weeks now.

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That's if you're a new competitor too.

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If you're a season, if you're, we're going
to speak just on a new competitor.

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basis because if you're a season
competitor, that might be a little

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different.

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You might have more lean muscle tissue.

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You might've already done an off season.

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There's a whole bunch of other things, but
if you're a brand new competitor, you

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know, you need to trust the process of
your coach, communicate with the process

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with your coach and your coach needs to
communicate with you as well.

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So that's kind of where I would see.

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I, even with lifestyle clients, to lose
weight does not need to take this

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astronomical amount of time.

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It,

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It just takes commitment.

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And that's really where I see across the
board is if you wanna do a show and you

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need to lean out, which means you need to
lose body fat, when you're on that journey

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week after week after week, prepping your
food in the gym, training, your body's

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gonna transform, that's consistency,
that's discipline, that's weight loss.

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And that also crosses over to a lifestyle
client.

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If you want to lose weight and get ready
for the summer and feel great in a bikini,

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You can do that.

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It's consistency.

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It's discipline.

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It's, it's what you do every week for X
amount of weeks to get you to your goal.

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So, mm hmm.

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I think that's so like about like six, six
months then sort of for somebody.

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I think it yeah, I think it starts with
like where they're starting.

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Like if somebody, you know, you take I
start with photos, you know, like and I

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might be on the phone with somebody and
just like, hey, text me like a recent

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photo of yourself, a progress photo of
yourself, because I think that's.

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Well, that's what you're being judged on.

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The judges are not asking you to submit
your body fat percentage or what your

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weight is or anything like that.

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So I take a look at their physique.

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And that's a helpful way to decide how
long.

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But I would never really have somebody
shoot for a show that's outside of like

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eight months to a year, because I just
think it's hard for people to stay

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motivated, stay excited.

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I think it's different if you've done a
couple shows and then you go, OK, here's

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my feedback.

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I really need to build.

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and I'm going to do a year to two year
improvement season.

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I think that's different.

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But for like your first competition, it's
almost like you kind of got to get out

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there and see where you're at.

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And then sometimes we need to lose body
fat to be able to see what's underneath.

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But I can typically look at someone's
structure and go, OK, like it looks like

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they're need to build their upper body a
little bit.

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And, you know, these are the areas that
they hold on to body fat.

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And then I can sort of like almost like
devise like.

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Like not like an off season build, but
almost like a re -comp.

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So maybe they would be working on building
some muscle while simultaneously losing

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body fat at a slow rate because you can't
lose body fat at a rapid rate and like

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retain muscle.

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So, and then just we're working on habits,
you know, we might get some heels and do

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some like intro posing.

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but like, that's not like the cutting
phase really, but like initially they did

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come to me for weight loss.

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So I'm, I'm working on leaning them out.

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Mm -hmm.

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But I think that is for a first time
competitor to have sort of like a goal in

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sight, like, you know, okay, if it's, you
know, it's April, I'm going to shoot for

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November, you know, then they kind of can
see.

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But if you're kind of like, well, we'll
just know when we're ready.

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It's like, tacos.

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Okay, sure.

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Because I don't know when my show is.

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So, you know, whatever.

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And then you don't get anywhere really.

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So, you know, I think it's just different
for everybody.

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And also that's another thing to start
further away from a show.

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Like you said, if you take, let's say you
started prep right now in April and you

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are aiming for November, well, let's, and
this is a brand new client, let's see if

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we can give you a high amount of calories.

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Let's see if we can start you really high
and really healthy and clean food with low

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cardio.

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And let's see what the next two weeks
happens.

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Cause what if, what if you have a client
and you do that, you have really low

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cardio.

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Let's say you're eating over 2000 calories
and then you check in with your, you check

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in and then.

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you're dropping weight.

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well, you dropped weight again.

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You dropped weight again.

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Well, then that means we can coast, you
know, the next so many weeks with very

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high calories.

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You just don't.

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And to be able to have the ability to
start that high with calories and low with

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cardio and have, you know, 30 weeks, you
could see you could do so much with that

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because you can feel so good.

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You can have so much energy.

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You can lift so much heavier.

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push yourself more, get better sleep, and
then just keep going.

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And then as you slowly reduce the
calories, it won't be as hard as a new

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athlete, because you will have the hunger
cravings.

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You will have those moments.

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It won't be as hard on them necessarily.

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Everybody's different going into getting
closer to the show.

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So that's also a really good point of why
to start further out.

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And then if you're ready early, you know,
that's a that's a good thing because

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things happen.

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We can't predict, you know, what's going
to happen in your life.

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And, you know, things you could get sick
and then we lose a week or, you know, a

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little, you know, injured like minor
injury, little aches and pains or, you

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know, unexpected travel or, you know,
whatever it might be.

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So those things we know we lose time.

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But I do find like in that first like
three months, we're doing a lot of work on

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habits and stuff.

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So it's nice to have that time.

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But then if you've never been on stage
before, it is nice to have the time for

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posing because that's such a huge piece of
it and needing the right amount of time to

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like get ready to, you know, showcase your
physique and know how to walk gracefully

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and all of that takes time.

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So I think a first time competitor like at
minimum six months to get ready, but more

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time would be better because.

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Then also like, you know, a lot of girls
get started and they might know like two

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or three people that compete.

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They get into this and they start
following people and they're like, this

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person, look at her abs and all of her
glutes and they're sizing everybody up and

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analyzing everybody and kind of like, then
it starts to get like a little bit

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intimidating.

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And so, you know, they can sort of, you
know, have fear about not having enough

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muscle and all these things.

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00:23:00,233 --> 00:23:03,815
But, you know, I also like, I think show
selection is important to like.

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I'm not going to put a first time
competitor, you know, in a competition

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where I know that there's going to be it's
going to be stacked like right before

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nationals, you know, at in a in a place
where, you know, I know there's going to

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be a national level judge because a lot of
people, that's their strategy is they go

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to these shows where they know they're
going to find national level judges to get

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in front of.

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So, you know, I might choose a show that,
you know, I know is like less.

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not say less competitive because you still
have really competitive athletes

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everywhere, but just there's not going to
be so many people that's not as scary and

448
00:23:36,831 --> 00:23:40,031
put them in the true novice class and like
any other novice classes just to kind of

449
00:23:40,031 --> 00:23:40,951
get out there.

450
00:23:40,951 --> 00:23:43,791
And then, you know, and then see where
they are.

451
00:23:43,791 --> 00:23:49,151
And I've had people that did their first
show and, you know, ended up winning the

452
00:23:49,151 --> 00:23:49,691
whole thing.

453
00:23:49,691 --> 00:23:50,011
Right.

454
00:23:50,011 --> 00:23:51,881
And it's it's it happens.

455
00:23:51,881 --> 00:23:52,951
Right.

456
00:23:53,291 --> 00:23:54,201
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

457
00:23:54,201 --> 00:23:55,438
It happens all the time.

458
00:23:55,438 --> 00:24:00,818
Well, and that's also what's great about
the NPC is that we have true novice and so

459
00:24:00,818 --> 00:24:05,438
the reassurance of knowing like You're so
nervous about getting on stage for the

460
00:24:05,438 --> 00:24:05,928
first time.

461
00:24:05,928 --> 00:24:06,558
You're anxious.

462
00:24:06,558 --> 00:24:10,538
You're scared you you start getting in
your head You know, like you said social

463
00:24:10,538 --> 00:24:14,658
media all this stuff You start really
getting in your head at least like you

464
00:24:14,658 --> 00:24:18,458
know that when you go on stage for the
very first time

465
00:24:18,458 --> 00:24:22,417
It is in a true novice category, as long
as you're in the true novice category.

466
00:24:22,417 --> 00:24:27,898
And everybody that's on stage with you at
that moment has never been on stage before

467
00:24:27,898 --> 00:24:28,578
either.

468
00:24:28,578 --> 00:24:30,718
And so you are not alone.

469
00:24:30,718 --> 00:24:36,178
And I love that we have that reassurance
now because they can relate and they can

470
00:24:36,178 --> 00:24:38,038
be backstage and get to chatting.

471
00:24:38,038 --> 00:24:40,938
Like all the girlies are always so nice to
each other backstage.

472
00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:44,218
Like they'll be in line and they'll just
be like fixing each other's suits.

473
00:24:44,218 --> 00:24:47,998
talking about their kids, they'll just be
like supporting one another and cheering

474
00:24:47,998 --> 00:24:48,788
each other on.

475
00:24:48,788 --> 00:24:50,228
So you're never alone.

476
00:24:50,228 --> 00:24:55,878
And that's what like, I love about this
sport is like, it's so insane to think

477
00:24:55,878 --> 00:24:59,258
about how it's so much about our bodies
and how we have to take care of ourselves

478
00:24:59,258 --> 00:25:00,398
and make ourselves look.

479
00:25:00,398 --> 00:25:04,718
But yeah, it's like so selfless too,
because like the community, you just wanna

480
00:25:04,718 --> 00:25:09,178
give back and help others, especially when
you're backstage, everybody sharing rice

481
00:25:09,178 --> 00:25:09,920
cakes.

482
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,580
realizes that like once you're there, like
the judges decide, you know, who the

483
00:25:14,580 --> 00:25:17,720
winner is and it doesn't help to be like,
I mean, you're going to, we've talked

484
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,820
about this before, but like, you're going
to have people that are not very friendly.

485
00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:23,520
but like typically, you know, you get to
know the people in your class cause you're

486
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,900
standing back there like with them.

487
00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:28,560
It's like, so, you know, you're going to
start to buy.

488
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,690
I mean, I've made so many great friends
backstage cause you're just sort of like,

489
00:25:31,690 --> 00:25:32,840
those are your people for the day.

490
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,060
Even if you're there with teammates and
stuff, like you're with, you know, other

491
00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:38,473
people in your high class and.

492
00:25:38,473 --> 00:25:41,033
Sometimes you see them a couple of times
because you're in different classes

493
00:25:41,033 --> 00:25:41,453
together.

494
00:25:41,453 --> 00:25:45,243
And so it is so cool that like most of us
have had that experience.

495
00:25:45,243 --> 00:25:49,233
A lot of our athletes that we coach like
make friends and I can see that they, you

496
00:25:49,233 --> 00:25:51,903
know, stay connected with other athletes
that they've met at shows.

497
00:25:51,903 --> 00:25:55,753
And I think that's like a beautiful thing
you don't expect really from from your

498
00:25:55,753 --> 00:25:56,953
show day.

499
00:25:57,413 --> 00:25:58,890
Yeah.

500
00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:03,870
you know, going back to show selection
because, you know, again, we spoke about

501
00:26:03,870 --> 00:26:08,030
this, but you never have to feel pressure
to register for a show.

502
00:26:08,030 --> 00:26:13,790
You know, pick a few shows or one show
that you're thinking about doing.

503
00:26:13,790 --> 00:26:15,790
I recommend doing it in your area.

504
00:26:15,790 --> 00:26:19,710
Like try to get something close to home,
you know, especially for your first time.

505
00:26:19,710 --> 00:26:25,490
If you are getting ready for that show,
pay attention to whenever that late fee

506
00:26:25,490 --> 00:26:26,266
starts.

507
00:26:26,266 --> 00:26:30,225
you know, that cutoff because like you
said, what if you do get sick?

508
00:26:30,225 --> 00:26:32,206
Okay, you get a cold and it knocks you
back a week.

509
00:26:32,206 --> 00:26:37,586
Well, what if you get like a cold and then
the flu and then something happens and

510
00:26:37,586 --> 00:26:41,486
something happens and you're knocked back
four weeks and you're not able to keep

511
00:26:41,486 --> 00:26:45,466
food down or the opposite, like you just
don't know.

512
00:26:45,466 --> 00:26:50,246
And so let's say something happens, you're
not obligated to those shows by any means

513
00:26:50,246 --> 00:26:53,086
unless you've already registered and paid
for them.

514
00:26:53,106 --> 00:26:53,626
So.

515
00:26:53,626 --> 00:26:57,426
If you have those shows in mind, but
something happens, well, then you can

516
00:26:57,426 --> 00:27:00,666
speak with your coach and you guys can
work together and you can pick a show

517
00:27:00,666 --> 00:27:02,586
that's further out.

518
00:27:02,586 --> 00:27:04,906
There's nothing wrong with that.

519
00:27:04,906 --> 00:27:10,926
Cause I've seen where, especially on
social media, people will come out the

520
00:27:10,926 --> 00:27:13,586
gate and say like, this is the show I'm
doing in 20 weeks.

521
00:27:13,586 --> 00:27:14,596
That's great.

522
00:27:14,596 --> 00:27:19,286
And that's awesome that you want to share
your prep journey on social media, but

523
00:27:19,286 --> 00:27:22,170
something happens and you have to push it
out.

524
00:27:22,170 --> 00:27:23,270
It's okay.

525
00:27:23,270 --> 00:27:28,620
Like it is totally okay to be like, if you
wanna announce it on social media, great,

526
00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:30,090
that's your platform.

527
00:27:30,090 --> 00:27:33,870
But if you need to push that out for
yourself, like you need to have that, you

528
00:27:33,870 --> 00:27:38,670
need to swallow that hard pill and like
push it out for yourself and you know,

529
00:27:38,670 --> 00:27:39,350
just own it.

530
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:40,190
And that's okay.

531
00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:41,480
Just like the opposite.

532
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,170
What if you are ready early and you're
just like coasting through prep and under

533
00:27:46,170 --> 00:27:50,330
all of, you know, that fat was like
awesome delts and you have like your.

534
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:53,360
glutes popping, well let's hop in a show
and see what we do.

535
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,730
Well then you hop in a show early.

536
00:27:55,730 --> 00:28:00,110
Just pay mind to the registrations because
you don't wanna get hit with that late

537
00:28:00,110 --> 00:28:00,974
fee, but.

538
00:28:00,974 --> 00:28:03,864
I mean, I wouldn't leave it to like the
very last minute, but like sometimes

539
00:28:03,864 --> 00:28:08,694
people will like register like, you know,
16 weeks out because then they feel like,

540
00:28:08,694 --> 00:28:11,594
well, I'll definitely do it if I register
at 16 weeks out.

541
00:28:11,594 --> 00:28:16,184
Like, what if you're, you know, your body
might not cooperate like you could have

542
00:28:16,184 --> 00:28:20,024
something come up like if you need that to
stay accountable and maybe you need to

543
00:28:20,024 --> 00:28:20,864
pick a different sport.

544
00:28:20,864 --> 00:28:25,964
But, you know, you don't get that money
back if you don't show up.

545
00:28:25,964 --> 00:28:29,227
So so, yeah, I think like, you know,

546
00:28:29,227 --> 00:28:34,427
about a month out is like for some, I
mean, the show that I'm doing in DC, I

547
00:28:34,427 --> 00:28:38,547
think that you can register up until like
72 hours prior online.

548
00:28:38,547 --> 00:28:39,979
And then.

549
00:28:39,979 --> 00:28:43,399
But a lot of promoters, it's usually like,
you know, two to four weeks out is like

550
00:28:43,399 --> 00:28:44,279
their deadline.

551
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:48,739
So, you know, just make sure like once you
kind of got an idea and things are

552
00:28:48,739 --> 00:28:52,439
coasting along, talk to your coach and go,
OK, like, are we are we in a place now

553
00:28:52,439 --> 00:28:54,599
where we can, you know, set a show date?

554
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:58,139
And usually they can because if they've
gotten to know your metabolism and they've

555
00:28:58,139 --> 00:29:02,099
seen your work ethic and how you're
progressing and it's sort of looking like,

556
00:29:02,099 --> 00:29:05,739
you know, OK, like we could be, you know,
we could be about three months out right

557
00:29:05,739 --> 00:29:06,439
now.

558
00:29:06,439 --> 00:29:09,886
Like a really good coach should be able to
tell based on kind of how you're doing.

559
00:29:09,886 --> 00:29:15,026
and how you're looking, and then sort of
toss around some ideas as far as shows.

560
00:29:15,946 --> 00:29:22,446
But sort of like shifting gears on this
topic a little bit, what do you do if

561
00:29:22,446 --> 00:29:23,726
you're not ready?

562
00:29:23,726 --> 00:29:30,206
And you have committed to a show, you've
been in prep, you're two to four weeks

563
00:29:30,206 --> 00:29:33,460
out, and you're not gonna be ready.

564
00:29:34,330 --> 00:29:35,930
a few things.

565
00:29:37,230 --> 00:29:40,150
I was like, I'm going first.

566
00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:42,680
Okay, well, a few things.

567
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,350
So one, from a financial standpoint, if
you aren't gonna be ready for that show

568
00:29:46,350 --> 00:29:49,750
and you've already registered for it,
contact the promoter immediately and see

569
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:51,550
if you can move your registration.

570
00:29:52,698 --> 00:29:55,078
Some promoters won't let you, some will
have rules regulation.

571
00:29:55,078 --> 00:29:57,698
You might be out that money and you just
have to swallow that.

572
00:29:57,698 --> 00:30:00,098
Some promoters may allow you to move to a
different show.

573
00:30:00,098 --> 00:30:02,798
So do that financially first.

574
00:30:02,798 --> 00:30:06,678
Communicate with your coach and if you and
your coach agree that you are not ready,

575
00:30:06,678 --> 00:30:09,858
then you need to figure out why aren't you
ready?

576
00:30:09,858 --> 00:30:14,378
Like what's, are you not ready because
your body is plateauing?

577
00:30:14,478 --> 00:30:15,802
Is it?

578
00:30:15,802 --> 00:30:20,702
stagnant to where you're not progressing,
you're not losing weight, you're not

579
00:30:20,702 --> 00:30:23,102
leaning out enough, like what's going on?

580
00:30:23,102 --> 00:30:28,262
Are you not ready because you, you know,
didn't do your diet?

581
00:30:28,262 --> 00:30:30,682
Well, that's kind of on you.

582
00:30:30,682 --> 00:30:34,762
So there's a few different ways to go
about that, but I would say if you're not

583
00:30:34,762 --> 00:30:39,702
ready, contact the promoter, pick a
further out show, see if you need, instead

584
00:30:39,702 --> 00:30:42,962
of like two, three weeks, maybe you need
eight, 10 weeks.

585
00:30:42,962 --> 00:30:45,626
Okay, if it's like a leaning out problem.

586
00:30:45,626 --> 00:30:49,446
But that's something that you and your
coach would have to go over.

587
00:30:49,446 --> 00:30:52,606
So that's kind of where I would start.

588
00:30:52,606 --> 00:30:53,416
What about you?

589
00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:54,626
Your turn.

590
00:30:54,826 --> 00:30:57,966
So there's two ways to answer this
question.

591
00:30:58,266 --> 00:31:06,046
Are you not ready because your physique is
not going to be lean enough or the right

592
00:31:06,046 --> 00:31:10,926
condition for stage things have slowed
down, things have plateaued, we're not

593
00:31:10,926 --> 00:31:12,026
seeing progress?

594
00:31:12,026 --> 00:31:17,086
Or do you think you're not ready because
you don't have accurate and realistic

595
00:31:17,086 --> 00:31:19,546
expectations of how you should look?

596
00:31:19,596 --> 00:31:25,496
because I think the latter happens more
often where somebody is comparing

597
00:31:25,496 --> 00:31:32,036
themselves to the New York pro or the
Olympia or nationals and they are a first

598
00:31:32,036 --> 00:31:37,476
time competitor and they're like, well,
this is what I'm seeing is winning.

599
00:31:37,476 --> 00:31:39,296
I don't look like that.

600
00:31:39,296 --> 00:31:41,556
So I shouldn't be getting on stage.

601
00:31:41,556 --> 00:31:46,347
There's so many parts to that that I could
dive into like a.

602
00:31:46,347 --> 00:31:50,597
You'd look way different on stage than you
do at home in your house.

603
00:31:50,597 --> 00:31:52,807
And at four weeks out, you look way
different.

604
00:31:52,807 --> 00:31:56,047
All the magic sort of like comes together
on that day.

605
00:31:56,047 --> 00:31:59,227
And you get up there with the tan, the
suit and the lights and the peak week and

606
00:31:59,227 --> 00:31:59,507
everything.

607
00:31:59,507 --> 00:32:02,287
And you look completely you won't even
recognize yourself.

608
00:32:02,287 --> 00:32:03,467
So there's that.

609
00:32:03,467 --> 00:32:07,587
But also, like, you don't need to look
like that.

610
00:32:07,587 --> 00:32:10,047
Like you need to look like the best
version of you.

611
00:32:10,047 --> 00:32:14,027
You're not going to be getting up on stage
at your very first competition and

612
00:32:14,027 --> 00:32:16,754
competing with the likes of Lorelei
Chapados and

613
00:32:16,754 --> 00:32:23,874
Delgado, you know, Nicole Johnson, you
know, all these established IFBB pros like

614
00:32:23,874 --> 00:32:25,824
that's for later and you'll get there.

615
00:32:25,824 --> 00:32:27,374
You know, if you keep going, you'll get
there.

616
00:32:27,374 --> 00:32:29,874
But for right now, that doesn't matter.

617
00:32:29,874 --> 00:32:34,174
Also, it's really hard to assess your
physique by yourself in your house.

618
00:32:34,174 --> 00:32:36,014
We're not standing next to anybody.

619
00:32:36,014 --> 00:32:37,744
You're in your dark basement.

620
00:32:37,744 --> 00:32:38,754
You got no tan.

621
00:32:38,754 --> 00:32:42,404
You probably got your hair and a pineapple
on top of your head and like, you know,

622
00:32:42,404 --> 00:32:43,954
your eyelashes looking like this.

623
00:32:43,954 --> 00:32:46,158
Like you're not you're not supposed to
look show ready.

624
00:32:46,158 --> 00:32:47,118
today.

625
00:32:47,118 --> 00:32:53,438
So if you trust your coach and you say,
Hey, I just I'm looking, I'm going, I

626
00:32:53,438 --> 00:32:54,318
don't know.

627
00:32:54,318 --> 00:32:56,598
That coach should say, we're going to be
great.

628
00:32:56,598 --> 00:32:58,818
Like here's the here's the what I see.

629
00:32:58,818 --> 00:33:00,248
Here's what we still need to do.

630
00:33:00,248 --> 00:33:02,458
We've got time, you're going to be ready.

631
00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:05,918
And you go, okay, you know, you just got
to put it in their hands and trust them.

632
00:33:05,918 --> 00:33:11,212
But I've seen people wig out, freak out,
back out of shows.

633
00:33:11,212 --> 00:33:15,132
because they're like, well, I don't look
like this and they just they're so in

634
00:33:15,132 --> 00:33:15,952
their head about it.

635
00:33:15,952 --> 00:33:18,492
So I think that's a huge problem.

636
00:33:18,492 --> 00:33:21,932
Like when I first started competing, we
didn't have social media.

637
00:33:21,932 --> 00:33:23,552
We didn't have great coverage of shows.

638
00:33:23,552 --> 00:33:28,312
You used to have to wait like six months
for that NPC magazine to come to your

639
00:33:28,312 --> 00:33:29,242
house.

640
00:33:29,242 --> 00:33:29,772
Mm -hmm.

641
00:33:29,772 --> 00:33:34,032
to see your show and like if you were in
the top five, you would be in a picture,

642
00:33:34,032 --> 00:33:35,932
but if you weren't, your name was there.

643
00:33:35,932 --> 00:33:38,772
Like we didn't have all the resources that
we have now.

644
00:33:38,772 --> 00:33:44,532
So it was kind of nice because you just
kind of, I don't know, you were like, mm

645
00:33:44,532 --> 00:33:44,962
-hmm.

646
00:33:44,962 --> 00:33:51,602
the amount of pictures, like all the
pictures that you see on social media,

647
00:33:51,602 --> 00:33:52,042
it's nuts.

648
00:33:52,042 --> 00:33:55,422
Cause you even look at like, I'll even use
myself for example, like the way that I

649
00:33:55,422 --> 00:33:58,402
look on social media, the way my pictures
look, you never know anybody's backstory

650
00:33:58,402 --> 00:33:59,142
for one.

651
00:33:59,142 --> 00:34:00,712
You don't know how long have they been
training?

652
00:34:00,712 --> 00:34:01,792
How long have they been weightlifting?

653
00:34:01,792 --> 00:34:04,698
How long have, you know, what have they
gone through?

654
00:34:04,698 --> 00:34:06,668
Also, you don't know if their photos are
edited.

655
00:34:06,668 --> 00:34:08,318
You don't know if the lighting is perfect.

656
00:34:08,318 --> 00:34:11,758
And that's just if you're on Instagram and
you see somebody has abs that's competing

657
00:34:11,758 --> 00:34:15,738
at the same show you're competing at and
you don't have abs.

658
00:34:15,738 --> 00:34:18,838
And like you said, you wig out, like
that's not real.

659
00:34:18,838 --> 00:34:20,878
Like you can't do that.

660
00:34:20,878 --> 00:34:26,898
And I remember when I was coming up, the
only, we had Instagram, we could see

661
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:28,698
pictures, but.

662
00:34:28,698 --> 00:34:30,918
There was no live, there was no videos.

663
00:34:30,918 --> 00:34:31,968
There was no live coverage like that.

664
00:34:31,968 --> 00:34:36,178
The only person that had videos was Dana
Lynn Bailey and like she was just

665
00:34:36,178 --> 00:34:37,278
incredible.

666
00:34:37,418 --> 00:34:38,728
But she did a lot of that herself.

667
00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:40,268
There wasn't like coverage of shows.

668
00:34:40,268 --> 00:34:42,728
And then obviously it came later.

669
00:34:42,728 --> 00:34:50,298
But when you look at pros and when I do
posing with a lot of girls, we talk about

670
00:34:50,298 --> 00:34:53,478
this because they will flail their arms.

671
00:34:53,478 --> 00:34:57,188
They will do a lot of more foot movement
than they need to.

672
00:34:57,188 --> 00:34:58,610
And it's like, no.

673
00:34:58,841 --> 00:34:59,691
Don't do that.

674
00:34:59,691 --> 00:35:04,501
And it's what they see online because
that's what the pros are doing and the

675
00:35:04,501 --> 00:35:08,021
pros are taking that long and the pros are
maybe it's like, you will get there.

676
00:35:08,021 --> 00:35:09,141
It will come in time.

677
00:35:09,141 --> 00:35:10,171
You will stay diligent.

678
00:35:10,171 --> 00:35:12,591
You will keep going on your journey.

679
00:35:12,591 --> 00:35:17,341
But right now, what you need to do is hit
your front pose really good, hit your back

680
00:35:17,341 --> 00:35:21,781
pose really good, go back to your front
pose and walk away.

681
00:35:21,781 --> 00:35:24,361
And that's as good as it needs to be.

682
00:35:24,361 --> 00:35:27,027
And do not let, eat them.

683
00:35:27,027 --> 00:35:28,607
and listen to your coach.

684
00:35:28,607 --> 00:35:31,403
Because the worst thing you can do is
just, you know.

685
00:35:31,403 --> 00:35:36,783
look too much into photos and videos and
then psych yourself out and make yourself

686
00:35:36,783 --> 00:35:38,203
so nervous.

687
00:35:38,263 --> 00:35:41,863
Everybody starts somewhere, so you got to
start, right?

688
00:35:41,863 --> 00:35:45,523
So you've got to get out there, but you
just don't know until you get out there.

689
00:35:45,523 --> 00:35:50,603
And you could miss out on a great
opportunity because you just decided that

690
00:35:50,603 --> 00:35:53,063
you thought that you weren't ready.

691
00:35:53,063 --> 00:35:56,743
I think it's different if you have
competed before and you can assess your

692
00:35:56,743 --> 00:35:58,643
physique and go, I'm not where I need to
be.

693
00:35:58,643 --> 00:36:01,546
But it's very different if you

694
00:36:01,546 --> 00:36:05,726
You know, if you're being overly critical
as an experienced competitor or body

695
00:36:05,726 --> 00:36:10,626
dysmorphia, because that happens to all of
us that can play a role as well.

696
00:36:10,626 --> 00:36:12,026
You want to feel comfortable.

697
00:36:12,026 --> 00:36:15,186
So like I have had where somebody is like,
I just don't feel comfortable and there's

698
00:36:15,186 --> 00:36:19,356
just nothing I can say or do to help them
to see how good they look.

699
00:36:19,356 --> 00:36:23,586
And I do realize that they just might need
more time mentally, even though I know

700
00:36:23,586 --> 00:36:27,846
physically we're there, like we're ready,
but they're just like, there's just no

701
00:36:27,846 --> 00:36:28,186
way.

702
00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:29,386
Like I don't feel ready.

703
00:36:29,386 --> 00:36:31,500
And for whatever reason in their mind and
other

704
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,120
four to six weeks of prep will make them
feel more prepared and more comfortable

705
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,620
because you can see it all over somebody's
body language when they aren't

706
00:36:38,620 --> 00:36:39,160
comfortable.

707
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,630
Like their posing looks awkward.

708
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:42,460
They just want to get the hell out of
there.

709
00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:46,060
They don't look comfortable on stage and
it just doesn't showcase the most

710
00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:47,940
beautiful physique when you're posing like
that.

711
00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:50,460
So you've got to feel comfortable and
ready.

712
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:53,390
But you know, I don't know that anybody
ever feels ready.

713
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:57,830
I think even, you know, I think when you
get there, you go, okay, I'm ready.

714
00:36:57,830 --> 00:36:59,530
But like, you know,

715
00:36:59,530 --> 00:37:04,210
I mean, even at this point, I'm two and a
half weeks out and I'm just like, yeah,

716
00:37:04,210 --> 00:37:05,890
you know, like I feel ready.

717
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,710
But but, you know, I I'm just.

718
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:11,500
how many shows you've done, look how many
years you've done it.

719
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:13,560
It's the same thing with me last week.

720
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,150
It's like, you know, I felt horrible.

721
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:19,400
Like you feel not great today.

722
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,530
And it's like, we have to step on stage in
a bikini in two and a half weeks.

723
00:37:23,530 --> 00:37:27,930
And it's like, you know, you just always
gotta remember that you're not like alone

724
00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:28,740
in your thoughts.

725
00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:33,690
You know, like that's another big one is
like, if you're on this journey and you're

726
00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:34,874
getting ready for a show,

727
00:37:34,874 --> 00:37:38,793
and you start like, I don't look good, I
don't feel good, I don't feel comfortable.

728
00:37:38,793 --> 00:37:43,034
It's like the one thing social media is
good for is you aren't alone.

729
00:37:43,034 --> 00:37:49,714
Like send some DMs, like reach out, like
communicate, make a community, you know,

730
00:37:49,714 --> 00:37:52,414
reach out into your gym and like find
other girls.

731
00:37:52,414 --> 00:37:56,114
Like I love my gym in the morning so much
because of that.

732
00:37:56,114 --> 00:38:01,074
Like it's, you know, you have this
camaraderie, whether they're prepping or

733
00:38:01,074 --> 00:38:04,122
not, but like you aren't alone.

734
00:38:04,122 --> 00:38:07,642
and you aren't the only one that's tired
and you're not the only one that may have

735
00:38:07,642 --> 00:38:10,942
digestion issues or be really scared and
really nervous.

736
00:38:10,942 --> 00:38:16,322
Send some DMs and get to talking to some
people and realize it will be okay.

737
00:38:16,322 --> 00:38:16,952
It will be okay.

738
00:38:16,952 --> 00:38:19,817
We're all gonna go on stage and it will be
okay.

739
00:38:19,817 --> 00:38:24,537
Yeah, and I think if you can take anything
away from this podcast today, just like

740
00:38:24,537 --> 00:38:29,737
know that like emotions are like, you
know, they're all over the place in prep.

741
00:38:29,737 --> 00:38:31,437
So you could be feeling amazing.

742
00:38:31,437 --> 00:38:34,517
And then five minutes later, you feel like
a bag of shit.

743
00:38:34,517 --> 00:38:37,157
And then like the next hour, you feel
great.

744
00:38:37,157 --> 00:38:39,996
I mean, and that's just part of it, you
know, so.

745
00:38:39,996 --> 00:38:41,316
It's like, I'm alive, I'm dead.

746
00:38:41,316 --> 00:38:41,726
I'm alive.

747
00:38:41,726 --> 00:38:43,226
What is that from?

748
00:38:43,346 --> 00:38:44,466
What is that?

749
00:38:44,466 --> 00:38:45,506
my gosh.

750
00:38:46,086 --> 00:38:46,810
It is.

751
00:38:46,810 --> 00:38:50,270
it, which you wouldn't know if you've
never done this before, but yeah.

752
00:38:50,270 --> 00:38:50,760
somewhere.

753
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,530
And there's a bunch of reels that use it.

754
00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:53,860
It's like, I'm alive, I'm dead.

755
00:38:53,860 --> 00:38:55,130
I'm alive, I'm dead.

756
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:56,745
It's like...

757
00:38:56,745 --> 00:39:00,345
minute these days, which is like all part
of it, which I mean, if you talk to your

758
00:39:00,345 --> 00:39:03,125
coach, they're going to tell you like,
this is normal, you know.

759
00:39:03,125 --> 00:39:07,785
But, you know, I think journaling is
great, too, because I've kept so many

760
00:39:07,785 --> 00:39:11,245
journals like I had to even look back
today and be like, when did I get my

761
00:39:11,245 --> 00:39:13,185
period in my prep in 2021?

762
00:39:13,185 --> 00:39:17,125
And I'm going through the archives in my
phone and I'm like, OK, I actually weighed

763
00:39:17,125 --> 00:39:19,085
more than OK, I'm good.

764
00:39:19,085 --> 00:39:21,155
Like, fricking it.

765
00:39:21,155 --> 00:39:24,505
You have to just kind of make yourself
feel better.

766
00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:28,770
I set goals like all the time and I'll
write them down and I have books like you

767
00:39:28,770 --> 00:39:29,030
do.

768
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:30,330
I don't journal.

769
00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:32,830
It's not for me, but goal setting is for
me.

770
00:39:32,830 --> 00:39:35,090
Like writing my numbers down, tracking
stuff.

771
00:39:35,090 --> 00:39:35,890
I love that.

772
00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:40,790
And when I accepted my sponsorship with
Toxic Angel...

773
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:41,820
what year was it?

774
00:39:41,820 --> 00:39:42,350
I had...

775
00:39:42,350 --> 00:39:44,450
It was like 2019.

776
00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:47,350
I had wrote down become a sponsored
athlete.

777
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:49,210
And now, yeah.

778
00:39:49,210 --> 00:39:52,690
I had like, you know how you divide your
goals, like financial goals, fitness

779
00:39:52,690 --> 00:39:54,090
goals, stuff like that.

780
00:39:54,090 --> 00:39:58,070
And that was like, it was, I can't, of
course it's in one of my notebooks, but it

781
00:39:58,070 --> 00:40:00,260
was like, it was 2019 or 2020.

782
00:40:00,260 --> 00:40:04,970
It was probably 2020 because I remember I
started a prep and stopped because of

783
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:06,430
COVID and then started.

784
00:40:06,770 --> 00:40:12,126
But yeah, and I like look back at that and
I'm like, it's 2024.

785
00:40:12,126 --> 00:40:17,326
Have you ever heard of Steve Harvey's 100
list?

786
00:40:18,586 --> 00:40:21,206
No, no I haven't.

787
00:40:21,306 --> 00:40:24,240
Yeah, yeah, that's why I was trying to
think if I heard of him talk.

788
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:27,678
and he's like somewhat religious, but.

789
00:40:27,678 --> 00:40:28,178
-hmm.

790
00:40:28,214 --> 00:40:35,054
it's like you can find it on YouTube, but
he he says you do not receive because you

791
00:40:35,054 --> 00:40:36,234
do not ask.

792
00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:43,614
And so his whole idea is write a list of
100 things that you want to achieve, that

793
00:40:43,614 --> 00:40:48,034
you want items, just things, anything, 100
things.

794
00:40:48,034 --> 00:40:51,214
And at first it kind of starts out with
like, I'd like to take my whole family to

795
00:40:51,214 --> 00:40:53,674
Paris and like, you know, all these
things.

796
00:40:53,674 --> 00:40:55,974
But they can be like little tiny things.

797
00:40:55,974 --> 00:40:57,548
And the exercise

798
00:40:57,548 --> 00:41:01,748
just like helps you to be like grateful
because it might be like I want to have an

799
00:41:01,748 --> 00:41:06,628
amazing Memorial Day with my family on
Monday and then you get to tick it off and

800
00:41:06,628 --> 00:41:07,114
then.

801
00:41:07,114 --> 00:41:09,224
It but it is but and they could be big
things.

802
00:41:09,224 --> 00:41:11,424
They can be small things like I want to be
a sponsored athlete.

803
00:41:11,424 --> 00:41:14,934
I want to win a pro card, you know,
whatever it might be and along the way

804
00:41:14,934 --> 00:41:18,254
while you're working towards these big
things, you're ticking off little things

805
00:41:18,254 --> 00:41:24,034
like, you know, I hope my daughter makes
level three senior team in two weeks, you

806
00:41:24,034 --> 00:41:25,054
know, like whatever it might be.

807
00:41:25,054 --> 00:41:27,254
And then when it does like I'm like, we
did that.

808
00:41:27,254 --> 00:41:27,694
we did that.

809
00:41:27,694 --> 00:41:32,234
And it helps you to like really see all
the wonderful things that are happening

810
00:41:32,234 --> 00:41:35,914
because if you just say here's my three
goals, I want to be an IFB pro and I want

811
00:41:35,914 --> 00:41:36,458
to.

812
00:41:36,458 --> 00:41:40,618
you know, coach a million women to lose
100 pounds and like whatever it might be.

813
00:41:40,618 --> 00:41:41,038
Right.

814
00:41:41,038 --> 00:41:44,018
Then you missing like all the little
things, you know.

815
00:41:44,018 --> 00:41:49,458
But also it's OK to like ask for some of
these like things to come into your life.

816
00:41:49,458 --> 00:41:49,708
Right.

817
00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:53,538
So that just made me think about that,
because I remember like in high school we

818
00:41:53,538 --> 00:41:54,228
did that.

819
00:41:54,228 --> 00:41:56,498
And I don't think it was based on Steve
Harvey.

820
00:41:56,498 --> 00:41:58,498
My gym teacher made us write this list.

821
00:41:58,498 --> 00:42:00,798
And I like I think there was like 50
things on it.

822
00:42:00,798 --> 00:42:04,878
I folded it up and I stuck it in an
envelope and I taped it under a drawer in

823
00:42:04,878 --> 00:42:05,458
my dresser.

824
00:42:05,458 --> 00:42:06,427
And the last time I went.

825
00:42:06,427 --> 00:42:10,287
back to Canada, I opened it and I had
accomplished like half of the things on

826
00:42:10,287 --> 00:42:11,407
that list.

827
00:42:11,727 --> 00:42:16,247
And it's like in my like high school
printing on like lined paper that had aged

828
00:42:16,247 --> 00:42:18,107
because I'm 100 years old.

829
00:42:18,107 --> 00:42:21,947
And this was back in the dinosaur times
when we wrote with.

830
00:42:23,047 --> 00:42:25,557
We wrote on stones with sticks.

831
00:42:25,557 --> 00:42:26,647
No, I'm kidding.

832
00:42:26,667 --> 00:42:31,113
But it was like, you know, be in a
magazine, be a fitness coach.

833
00:42:31,113 --> 00:42:35,093
have a boy and a girl, which I think back
on high school and I don't remember

834
00:42:35,093 --> 00:42:36,513
thinking that, but I did.

835
00:42:36,513 --> 00:42:39,613
And I'm like, my God, tick, tick, tick,
like all these things.

836
00:42:39,613 --> 00:42:42,063
So I think that's such a powerful
exercise.

837
00:42:42,063 --> 00:42:45,933
So sometimes like some of that, like, you
know, hippie, dippy stuff helps you get

838
00:42:45,933 --> 00:42:49,353
through prep when you're like in this
place of just like, I'm a hot fricking

839
00:42:49,353 --> 00:42:53,113
mess and I'm so tired and I don't, I felt
really skinny this morning and now I feel

840
00:42:53,113 --> 00:42:54,313
like a busted can of biscuits.

841
00:42:54,313 --> 00:42:55,533
Like, can I get it?

842
00:42:55,533 --> 00:42:56,463
Can I get on stage?

843
00:42:56,463 --> 00:42:58,193
You know, where you're a hot freaking
mess.

844
00:42:58,193 --> 00:43:00,297
I think the sport sort of draws.

845
00:43:00,297 --> 00:43:03,237
people that have these big crazy goals
anyways.

846
00:43:03,237 --> 00:43:05,217
So, you know, it's going to be a journey.

847
00:43:05,217 --> 00:43:11,557
But I also think if you don't do big scary
things in life, like, are you living like

848
00:43:11,557 --> 00:43:14,057
if your life is so comfy?

849
00:43:14,057 --> 00:43:16,907
But some people are good with that.

850
00:43:16,907 --> 00:43:19,897
Some people are great with the sort of the
day to day.

851
00:43:19,897 --> 00:43:23,837
And, you know, they they live in the same
neighborhood that they grew up in and

852
00:43:23,837 --> 00:43:26,217
they're super happy and content.

853
00:43:26,217 --> 00:43:26,474
But.

854
00:43:26,474 --> 00:43:29,494
You know, a lot of people, they're they're
always unsettled unless they're doing

855
00:43:29,494 --> 00:43:31,254
something and they're working towards
something.

856
00:43:31,254 --> 00:43:35,414
So just understand that like this is a big
goal and it's going to have its

857
00:43:35,414 --> 00:43:37,324
challenges, but it's going to be so worth
it.

858
00:43:37,324 --> 00:43:42,114
You know, and you might think there's just
not even a snowflakes chance in hell that

859
00:43:42,114 --> 00:43:43,254
I'm going to be ready in four weeks.

860
00:43:43,254 --> 00:43:46,554
And you get up there and you do it and
you're like, I don't to think I almost

861
00:43:46,554 --> 00:43:50,770
didn't do this because I didn't think that
I was ready, you know, so just go for it.

862
00:43:50,770 --> 00:43:56,510
you walk away from it too, is you get on
that stage and you're scared, you're

863
00:43:56,510 --> 00:43:59,190
nervous, you feel like you weren't ready,
you feel all these things, but when you're

864
00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:02,460
there, man, it's just amazing.

865
00:44:02,460 --> 00:44:04,170
And you'll never forget those moments too.

866
00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:07,860
That's why people will always ask me how
incredible it is to expedite.

867
00:44:07,860 --> 00:44:11,950
And I'm like, yeah, it's a lot of work,
it's really hard, but being such a

868
00:44:11,950 --> 00:44:18,150
positive influence at a moment in time
that every athlete is gonna remember, you

869
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:19,066
know, is...

870
00:44:19,066 --> 00:44:23,506
It's so meaningful to me, because I'm
like, I can help you through this moment

871
00:44:23,506 --> 00:44:28,826
in your life that you will always remember
and I can make sure, or at least like try

872
00:44:28,826 --> 00:44:34,246
to make sure to do the best I can for it
to be the best for you, you know?

873
00:44:34,386 --> 00:44:34,837
So.

874
00:44:34,837 --> 00:44:37,257
a part of those experiences for sure.

875
00:44:37,257 --> 00:44:40,137
You know, you're the last smiling face
they see at the top of the stairs before

876
00:44:40,137 --> 00:44:41,997
they go out there for the very first time.

877
00:44:41,997 --> 00:44:45,137
Like, you know, for like how many people
have you been that person?

878
00:44:45,137 --> 00:44:46,487
Like, that's like so cool.

879
00:44:46,487 --> 00:44:49,437
And so, you know, it's it is so rewarding.

880
00:44:49,437 --> 00:44:53,337
You know, this whole experience,
obviously, we've made a whole a whole

881
00:44:53,337 --> 00:44:56,247
business and a whole podcast out of the
thing, you know, and they're, you know,

882
00:44:56,247 --> 00:44:57,117
and it's wonderful.

883
00:44:57,117 --> 00:45:00,266
So I think like, you know, if anything,
hopefully.

884
00:45:00,266 --> 00:45:04,126
listening to our stories and listening to
this advice today will give you some

885
00:45:04,126 --> 00:45:06,486
reassurance about how you're feeling that
it's normal.

886
00:45:06,486 --> 00:45:09,326
And then if you're not ready, just take
more time.

887
00:45:09,326 --> 00:45:11,056
But again, you might be ready.

888
00:45:11,056 --> 00:45:14,126
You might just be in your head about the
whole thing and not really know what

889
00:45:14,126 --> 00:45:15,354
you're looking at, right?

890
00:45:15,354 --> 00:45:18,494
Yeah, and always remember that it's not,
it doesn't need to take a year or two.

891
00:45:18,494 --> 00:45:21,094
It does not need to take this astronomical
amount of time.

892
00:45:21,094 --> 00:45:23,054
It just takes it.

893
00:45:23,054 --> 00:45:23,441
Yep.

894
00:45:23,441 --> 00:45:24,091
it a go.

895
00:45:24,091 --> 00:45:27,121
See what you're looking like, you know,
and just, and who knows?

896
00:45:27,121 --> 00:45:31,121
Like you could be way closer than you
think, but again, you don't know what the

897
00:45:31,121 --> 00:45:33,991
judges are looking for because you know,
you're just getting started.

898
00:45:33,991 --> 00:45:35,541
So get out there and see what they say.

899
00:45:35,541 --> 00:45:37,311
And then you've got some to work towards
in the gym.

900
00:45:37,311 --> 00:45:40,781
Like, okay, I'm going to take, you know, I
did, I did two shows and now I'm going to

901
00:45:40,781 --> 00:45:42,061
take a year and grow my glutes.

902
00:45:42,061 --> 00:45:45,241
And you know, and you learn so much and
then you come back and you could be doing

903
00:45:45,241 --> 00:45:47,921
it for 97 years like me.

904
00:45:47,921 --> 00:45:48,489
And,

905
00:45:48,489 --> 00:45:49,978
Heheheheh

906
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With that as we wrap up this episode guys
also like we mentioned if you need

907
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somebody to talk to or if you have
questions about anything if you're looking

908
00:45:56,578 --> 00:46:02,138
for a coach If you have posing questions,
you know, you can con we are here for you

909
00:46:02,138 --> 00:46:06,088
Of course, this is our podcast is on
youtube spotify apple

910
00:46:06,257 --> 00:46:08,047
we're not gonna steal you from that coach.

911
00:46:08,047 --> 00:46:09,257
We just wanna help.

912
00:46:09,257 --> 00:46:13,397
So, if you've got questions, don't feel
like you can't ask us if you've got

913
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another coach.

914
00:46:13,997 --> 00:46:15,997
We support other teams in the industry.

915
00:46:15,997 --> 00:46:21,877
We just wanna be resources for everybody
that's here that is trying to learn and

916
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become the best version of themselves.

917
00:46:23,467 --> 00:46:25,781
So we're always here for anything.

918
00:46:25,786 --> 00:46:29,026
Yeah, I've partnered with some coaches and
helped some of their women that are just

919
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like new to the stage.

920
00:46:30,126 --> 00:46:31,986
And so it's like, we're always here.

921
00:46:31,986 --> 00:46:36,026
You know, you can comment, you can DM us
on our personal pages, you know, message

922
00:46:36,026 --> 00:46:39,636
us on Bikini's After Babies podcast on
Instagram, comment, you know.

923
00:46:39,636 --> 00:46:42,806
And of course, let us know anything that
you guys would like to hear from us or

924
00:46:42,806 --> 00:46:44,426
from the people that we interview.

925
00:46:44,426 --> 00:46:49,266
But I hope you guys, you know, took a lot
from this podcast and we'll talk to you

926
00:46:49,266 --> 00:46:50,281
next time.

927
00:46:50,281 --> 00:46:52,581
Bye everybody, have a good day.