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      "body": "This is for the sled dogs in the trenches. Real hockey parents, real stories. The Good and the Gong Show. No filters, no sugarcoating, no politics, just straight hockey talk, and the best guests around the barn. Welcome to the Crazy Hockey Dads Podcast."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Intro",
      "startTime": "20.705",
      "endTime": "26.35",
      "body": "Alright, boys. Grind them corners, chirp responsibly, and bring that savage fire."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "Welcome to episode 74 of the Crazy Hockey Dads Podcast, the unfiltered podcast for hockey parents. No politics, no sugarcoating, just real talk for hockey parents in the trenches."
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    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. And just to make sure"
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    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "59.59",
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      "body": "What are we making sure of?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "This this podcast is powered by who?"
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "64.31",
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      "body": "Oh, Pacific Rink. I don't know why I forgot that. That was really not good on my part. Brad and Jack would be very upset with me. Powered by"
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      "body": "TISC. TISC."
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      "body": "Pacific Rink. Here I was being so excited for for nailing the intro and totally forgot. We are powered by the one and only Pacific Rink. Best hockey bag on the planet."
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      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "84.26",
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      "body": "I don't"
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    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "84.42",
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      "body": "know what"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "85.06",
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      "body": "to say. Just saying. Just saying. Well, now you are."
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    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "88.42",
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      "body": "I am"
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    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "just saying."
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "Now I am. You're welcome."
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    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "Yes. And that's why you're here."
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "And that's why you never podcast alone."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "So true."
    },
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "So true."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "Do not podcast without a buddy, swim buddy."
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "Or copious notes."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "Copi oh, you like that word, don't you?"
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "Oh, that's from time to time."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "You know where you got that copious notes from?"
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "No one else but you."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "That's right. I I"
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "I because you are a wordsmith. I use You're fucking genius. I was just thinking of the"
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "movie Wedding Crashers. I'm a coxman."
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      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "124.6",
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      "body": "But is that what he said? Cocksmen, coxsmith, whatever it was? Yeah. You motorboat and son of a bitch, you Are they built for speed or"
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "131.375",
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      "body": "are they built for comfort? Sorry. It's the summer. It's appropriate."
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      "body": "Sure."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "Yeah. Wordsmith. Can I tell you, I used that word copious when I was sitting in my my accounting teacher's office sophomore year? What? And just because I used that word, she goes, Jamie, you're very well spoken."
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "152.4",
      "endTime": "157.485",
      "body": "Thanks. Right. I don't know if it helped me in my final grade, but she liked me after that."
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "After using the"
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    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "word before that. Missus Don?"
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      "speaker": "Max",
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      "body": "Is that"
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      "body": "her name? Missus Don. Something like that. I don't know."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "But she she didn't like me up until that point, and after that, she liked me."
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      "body": "I find that very odd that a person would dislike one prior to the use of the word copious."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "I think she thought I was dumb as a rock before that. Oh, yeah?"
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      "body": "And then when I went"
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "178.45001",
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      "body": "to speak to her and I spoke to her because I didn't really say much in class."
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      "body": "I just kinda did my work and went by my business. So why would she think you're dumbass?"
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      "body": "I don't I don't I don't she could have not thought that, but, you know Oh. I mean, I wasn't a bad student. But Right. You know, but when I went in to finally speak to her, she got to know me one on one. Yeah."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "So I was I think she had a different, look. I I came off differently after that that conversation. You're such a dick. Why are you looking at me like that? Listen, after that, we were like buddies."
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "Yeah. Was like Obviously."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "She was like I was like her not favorite student, I was like"
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "Aren't you like the godfather to her child?"
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "218.675",
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      "body": "That would be so awkward, by the way. She was much older than me. That would be super awkward. I'm not sure where that came from, but that is just disturbing on many, many levels."
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      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "229.33",
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      "body": "So funny. Anyhow"
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "Anyhow. Hey. Hey. And by the way"
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "bring it back to"
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "our intro, our great intro is brought to you by Big John Dangles. You can go check him out on Big John Dangles' Instagram. We love BJD. So thank you very much for our intro."
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      "speaker": "Max",
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      "body": "Yes, sir."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "245.02501",
      "endTime": "247.825",
      "body": "And Yem Yem. Do you even get on this topic?"
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    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "I don't know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "Me neither."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "249.425",
      "endTime": "258.58002",
      "body": "But, yeah, another week is gone. Another week? Well, no. I mean, I'm trying to think of I'm getting my dates confused. Otto's been out of the house for the last week."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "258.58002",
      "endTime": "260.5",
      "body": "He has been. He's coming back later this week. No?"
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      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "260.5",
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      "body": "Yeah. He's this is week two. Week two of camp. So we have not been I've been shooting some hockey pucks and we should continue not not let's not forget to mention"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "269.405",
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      "body": "We should."
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    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "270.04498",
      "endTime": "272.285",
      "body": "Yeah. The, the most smiles event"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "272.365",
      "endTime": "272.76498",
      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "272.76498",
      "endTime": "281.32",
      "body": "That we're doing and I'm Thursday. Bringing this up next Thursday. I'm gonna bring it up now because as Otto is away at camp, I have been shooting pucks."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "281.48",
      "endTime": "281.80002",
      "body": "You've been"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "281.80002",
      "endTime": "287.56",
      "body": "lifting you're doing all the heavy lifting. Yeah. That's a you know, it's a it'll be a joint effort. The money that we are trying to raise"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "287.72",
      "endTime": "287.96002",
      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "288.04",
      "endTime": "291.64",
      "body": "For the, Moe Smiles Foundation Moe's Smile Foundation."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "291.64",
      "endTime": "294.055",
      "body": "Yeah. MSK to combat childhood cancer."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "294.055",
      "endTime": "297.01498",
      "body": "Yep. A 100%. Right. And A very good cause. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "297.01498",
      "endTime": "316.34",
      "body": "And if if anyone is interested in learning more, please check out our Instagram. We have some information about the event. But and also listen to our episode with Larry Robbins if you haven't either because it's through Larry Robbins for you know, that we got connected to this event. Yes. And it's just a very unfortunate story."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "316.97998",
      "endTime": "335.96",
      "body": "But in the wake of that tragedy, you know, there is, you know, Moe's legacy that, you know, we're continuing to celebrate and raising money for a good cause. So anyone that wants some more information about that, you can also register your kids as part of the Crazy Hockey Dads team, and your kids could shoot pucks."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "335.96",
      "endTime": "337.48",
      "body": "Yep. And raise some money."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "337.88",
      "endTime": "341.32",
      "body": "Or they you know, we take, you know, straight up donations."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "341.32",
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      "body": "Yeah. Either one."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "342.36",
      "endTime": "345.32",
      "body": "Yep. So just take a look at our info if you want some more information. But yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "345.32",
      "endTime": "356.26498",
      "body": "Yeah. The money all goes to the same place. It all it all goes to Memorial Sloan Kettering, you know, to combat childhood cancer. The Moe story is wild. Like Scott said, go check out episode 66 with Larry Robbins."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "356.26498",
      "endTime": "362.25",
      "body": "Yeah. He was it it just I think Larry said it on on the episode. He's like, was just kind of fate how they met."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "362.25",
      "endTime": "363.69",
      "body": "Yeah. He said he said that"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "364.17",
      "endTime": "366.57",
      "body": "He just normally picks kids and gets it over with. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "366.57",
      "endTime": "367.45",
      "body": "Right. Like, he could try out"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "367.53",
      "endTime": "368.65",
      "body": "He held one spot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "368.65",
      "endTime": "371.93",
      "body": "Right. Which is crazy. He needed to find someone else and and it was Moe."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "371.93",
      "endTime": "382.85498",
      "body": "That was that's crazy. Like he said, they were just kinda meant to meet. You know? Yeah. And now, Larry Robbins, you know, goes jumps through hoops to to, you know, to, you know, to raise as much money as possible for this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "382.85498",
      "endTime": "383.975",
      "body": "Yeah. Which I think is great."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "383.975",
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      "body": "Yeah. Know. It'll be should be it should be a really good event."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "387.895",
      "endTime": "389.815",
      "body": "Yeah. And we're honored to be a part"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "389.815",
      "endTime": "390.96",
      "body": "of That's right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "390.96",
      "endTime": "393.12",
      "body": "Yeah. So next Thursday, we're"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "393.12",
      "endTime": "399.36",
      "body": "looking So forward to just to kind of bring this a little bit full circle. So Otto's out of the house. I've been shooting pucks."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "399.36",
      "endTime": "400.16",
      "body": "You have been."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "400.16",
      "endTime": "411.255",
      "body": "And really no hockey. He's been out of town. So Right. Yeah. I'm I I've been pretty hockey less outside of the, you know, like doing stuff for the pod."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "411.255",
      "endTime": "412.77502",
      "body": "Right. You know, that stuff. But yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "412.77502",
      "endTime": "413.73502",
      "body": "Which is busy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "413.815",
      "endTime": "420.4",
      "body": "Which is busy. Pod has been busy. But doing different things that, you know, as as opposed to being on the ice. Although I do need to get myself back out on the ice."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "420.4",
      "endTime": "420.88",
      "body": "Do you?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "420.88",
      "endTime": "427.6",
      "body": "Yeah. I I didn't play this past weekend or the weekend before. Okay. Two weeks haven't played. So I need to get back on out on the ice next weekend."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "427.6",
      "endTime": "428.0",
      "body": "Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "428.0",
      "endTime": "432.08",
      "body": "You know? Nice. Get get some reps in myself. Sure. But"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "432.32",
      "endTime": "432.72",
      "body": "Nice."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "432.72",
      "endTime": "440.625",
      "body": "Yeah, man. Otherwise, been enjoying the the summertime. It's been a little quieter around here. Mhmm. Not it's sometimes With one child as opposed to With one child."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "440.625",
      "endTime": "446.145",
      "body": "In some ways, good. Some ways, not so good. But we missed the little guy. And but it's been a little quiet."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "446.145",
      "endTime": "451.53",
      "body": "So you're not running around to, like, mountain biking and hockey and skill stuff and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "451.69",
      "endTime": "452.01",
      "body": "Nope."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "452.09",
      "endTime": "454.09",
      "body": "You know, off ice workouts. Nope."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "454.09",
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      "body": "Nope. Nope. But when he comes back though, he's definitely got so when he comes back, he's gonna do one of the local, skills training Mhmm. Facilities here, does an on ice camp. Nice."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "464.45502",
      "endTime": "469.17502",
      "body": "So he'll do that for a couple hours for, like, four days, I think, when he comes back. At some point, he goes to Princeton."
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    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "469.17502",
      "endTime": "470.215",
      "body": "And then we're off to Princeton."
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    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "470.215",
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      "body": "Yeah. And then I think he's doing another week with that same skills company here in, like, locally when he gets back. And then he's gonna have two weeks of training camp for his club team. So look, over the next couple weeks or the rest of the summer, there aren't that many that don't have hockey wound up into it. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "So, you know, I don't know what to say about that other than, you know, it's interesting, you know, now being in the middle of summer and or not middle, beginning of summer and post spring and it's like Right. I don't know. I I don't know. He's it's it's something that he likes to do. And and as I see us filling up his schedule with, like, other hockey things, I I I you know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "510.02",
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      "body": "So much for not"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "endTime": "512.34",
      "body": "doing in spring and summer."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "512.34",
      "endTime": "523.77496",
      "body": "Yeah. And I you know, it's, again, it's not well, I'll I'm also gonna ask him if he's down to do it. Yeah. And if he wants to do it, fine. But I was even asking Orly, like, are some other things, you know, that we could sign him up for?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "523.77496",
      "endTime": "524.975",
      "body": "That's not hockey, you mean?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "524.975",
      "endTime": "529.135",
      "body": "That's not hockey that, you know, you think he would be interested in doing. And so we'll talk to him when he gets back."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "And what are those things?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "530.79",
      "endTime": "535.19",
      "body": "Well, there's like gymnastics actually. Cool. Like there was a while he was doing some Tumbling"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "535.19",
      "endTime": "535.83",
      "body": "stuff like that?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "535.83",
      "endTime": "537.67",
      "body": "He likes to do like flips and stuff Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "537.67",
      "endTime": "538.87",
      "body": "On the trampoline. Tumbling."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "538.87",
      "endTime": "541.83",
      "body": "Yeah. Tumbling. I guess when I ever think of tumbling, think of just on the ground."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "541.83",
      "endTime": "542.79",
      "body": "No. No. No. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "544.36505",
      "endTime": "550.765",
      "body": "Gymnastics, he's gone to some lacrosse camps before, done basketball camps and tennis camps before. So just see like what other, you know Any"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "550.765",
      "endTime": "551.16504",
      "body": "other sport."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "551.24506",
      "endTime": "556.36505",
      "body": "Anything that he wants to do. But I'm not gonna make that decision for him. You know what I mean? Right. So when we'll talk to him and we'll see."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "556.36505",
      "endTime": "557.24506",
      "body": "But Nice. Whatever."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "557.24506",
      "endTime": "557.885",
      "body": "Alright. Cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "557.885",
      "endTime": "558.84503",
      "body": "Nice. There's there's stuff."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "559.14996",
      "endTime": "564.75",
      "body": "There's definitely stuff. Yeah. No. We, same on my end. You know, we obviously have a bunch of camps."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "564.75",
      "endTime": "573.39496",
      "body": "We're going to, so right after right after our most smiles event, matter of fact, that evening. So we're done. I don't even know what time it ends. Seven? Something like that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "573.39496",
      "endTime": "574.75494",
      "body": "Ends in the evening sometime."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "574.75494",
      "endTime": "575.07495",
      "body": "Uh-huh."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "575.07495",
      "endTime": "576.355",
      "body": "Six, seven. And"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "577.63495",
      "endTime": "578.51495",
      "body": "Don't even don't even"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "578.51495",
      "endTime": "578.83496",
      "body": "say that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "578.83496",
      "endTime": "580.035",
      "body": "I did not do that on purpose, by"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "580.035",
      "endTime": "581.555",
      "body": "the way. Yeah. But don't don't even say it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "581.555",
      "endTime": "584.675",
      "body": "No. So at that when it ends, whenever that is"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "584.83496",
      "endTime": "586.435",
      "body": "Dude, my kids don't laugh at it anymore."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "586.435",
      "endTime": "587.475",
      "body": "Well, because it's so dumb now."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "587.78",
      "endTime": "589.14",
      "body": "I I no. I agree."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "589.14",
      "endTime": "599.7",
      "body": "I know. It's like a it's like a running joke now, though. Right? But, but yeah. So whenever it ends, we are getting in the car, and we're driving out to Penn State because Dominic has Penn State ice hockey game the next morning."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "599.7",
      "endTime": "603.67505",
      "body": "Oh, and who's back at Penn State now? So That dropped that came out after"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "603.755",
      "endTime": "611.995",
      "body": "That's where I was that's where I was rolling this into. So well done by you. So yeah. So, big shout out to our buddy, Alec Marsh, episode"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "612.235",
      "endTime": "614.73004",
      "body": "33."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "615.21",
      "endTime": "619.53",
      "body": "Right? I had three in my head too. Something like 33. Is that right? Are we both right about that?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "619.53",
      "endTime": "630.615",
      "body": "Yes. Nice, buddy. Episode 33. Alec Marsh, who is a friend of the pod, he became the assistant coach at Hobart this past year. The team did very well."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "630.615",
      "endTime": "644.67004",
      "body": "They lost in the finals, which was kind of a bummer in overtime. But I was talking to Alec the other day, and he was just named, one of the coaches on the Penn State ice hockey staff. Yeah. Yeah. So congrats to Alec Marsh, man."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "644.67004",
      "endTime": "645.71",
      "body": "Congrats brother."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "645.71",
      "endTime": "651.71",
      "body": "Very exciting, know? Yep. So I was talking the other day, he's gonna be out there. He's he's out there ready actually."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "651.79004",
      "endTime": "652.35004",
      "body": "Oh, is he?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "652.35004",
      "endTime": "654.03",
      "body": "Oh, yeah. He they wasted no time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "654.03",
      "endTime": "654.35004",
      "body": "I'm sure."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "654.35004",
      "endTime": "655.79004",
      "body": "He's been out there for two weeks now."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "655.79004",
      "endTime": "657.63",
      "body": "Yeah. So he he missed the one year McKenna was there."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "658.485",
      "endTime": "661.605",
      "body": "Oh, McKenna. Yeah. He did miss the one year McKenna was there. Yeah. He did."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "661.685",
      "endTime": "664.085",
      "body": "Yeah. Unfortunately. Right? Yeah. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "664.085",
      "endTime": "670.165",
      "body": "He's so he's got a nice job out there, so he's out there now. He's gonna be I think he's gonna be on the ice when Dom's there, which is cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "670.34",
      "endTime": "671.22003",
      "body": "Oh, yeah. That would"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "671.22003",
      "endTime": "676.5",
      "body": "be cool. That'd be really nice. Yeah. So, you know, yeah. So congratulations to our buddy, Alec Marsh."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "676.74",
      "endTime": "678.10004",
      "body": "You know? Well deserved."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "678.26",
      "endTime": "678.98",
      "body": "Congrats. I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "678.98",
      "endTime": "681.54004",
      "body": "always I always said, and I'm sure I've said that on this podcast."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "681.78",
      "endTime": "683.86",
      "body": "Gonna be the head coach on a d one bench."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "683.86",
      "endTime": "687.475",
      "body": "I don't think he said head coach, but he'll be on a d one bench. Oh. You know what I mean? Yeah. Listen."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "687.475",
      "endTime": "692.115",
      "body": "I think he probably will be a head coach one day, but I I always knew he was gonna be with a d one program. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "692.115",
      "endTime": "692.355",
      "body": "It's just"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "692.355",
      "endTime": "693.075",
      "body": "a matter of time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "693.075",
      "endTime": "694.275",
      "body": "Well Yeah. There you go."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "694.275",
      "endTime": "695.715",
      "body": "Yeah. So congratulations to him."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "695.715",
      "endTime": "697.155",
      "body": "Yeah. Absolutely. Well done."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "697.155",
      "endTime": "703.7",
      "body": "Yeah. So that's awesome. What else? We have not been doing much hockey, a lot of boxing."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "703.7",
      "endTime": "704.26",
      "body": "Okay. Good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "704.26",
      "endTime": "715.675",
      "body": "You know, a lot of other he's been shooting every day for most miles, which is great. Right? Trying to raise some money for Memorial Sloan Kettering, which is awesome. What's he been doing? He he he power skates, like, every once in a while."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "715.675",
      "endTime": "719.995",
      "body": "Yeah. Like oh, well, he is he he obviously was shooting with Ryan Murphy, our buddy Ryan Murphy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "719.995",
      "endTime": "724.47504",
      "body": "Oh, he he got the stiffer stick? Uh-oh. Did it already break?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "724.47504",
      "endTime": "746.175",
      "body": "So he alright. So so for those of you who didn't listen to last episode, Ryan Murphy is the New Jersey Devil's, skills coach. And Dominic went and shot pucks with him, not this past, not this past Friday, the one before. And, he diagnosed Dominic and said that Dominic needs a stiffer stick. I had just bought a 40 flex."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "746.175",
      "endTime": "757.01",
      "body": "He just went from a 30 to a 40, and now I bought a 50. So it's here. It is two inches bigger than his 40 flex."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "757.17",
      "endTime": "759.09",
      "body": "So you mean, because it down is gonna be even stiffer."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "759.09",
      "endTime": "764.13",
      "body": "So it's gonna be stiffer. So I said to so I was I was texting Ryan. I said I said, Ryan, I said, what do I do with this?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "764.13",
      "endTime": "767.985",
      "body": "Is it custom? No. It's returnable?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "767.985",
      "endTime": "768.625",
      "body": "Oh, yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "768.625",
      "endTime": "769.02496",
      "body": "Oh, okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "769.02496",
      "endTime": "780.03",
      "body": "Yeah. You know, it doesn't have his name on it. So I bought it. It's a 54 inch, 50 flex. So I was worried about cutting it down because obviously it's gonna move the flex higher."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "780.03",
      "endTime": "780.27",
      "body": "Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "780.27",
      "endTime": "780.75",
      "body": "Yep."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "780.75",
      "endTime": "783.79004",
      "body": "So, I text Ryan and said, what do I do with this?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "783.79004",
      "endTime": "784.19",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "784.19",
      "endTime": "787.23004",
      "body": "Like because so Dom's going down to see Ryan on Friday morning."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "787.23004",
      "endTime": "787.55005",
      "body": "Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "787.55005",
      "endTime": "793.135",
      "body": "So he's gonna work with him on Friday morning, and he says, don't cut it. He goes, have him bring it, and they're gonna play around with it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "793.135",
      "endTime": "794.095",
      "body": "Ah, that's cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "794.095",
      "endTime": "804.335",
      "body": "Yeah. So it's a it's a bigger stick than Dominic is used to. He has a fifth normally has a 52 cut down to a 51. Mhmm. So I'm not sure what this is gonna look like but we're gonna find out."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "804.335",
      "endTime": "808.67",
      "body": "But Dominic essentially grew out of his flex. Right? He's too strong for the flex of the 30"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "808.83",
      "endTime": "809.14996",
      "body": "Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "809.23",
      "endTime": "810.19",
      "body": "And even the 40."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "810.19",
      "endTime": "810.75",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "810.91",
      "endTime": "812.99",
      "body": "So we'll see, man. We'll we'll see."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "812.99",
      "endTime": "813.39",
      "body": "Alright."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "813.39",
      "endTime": "815.23",
      "body": "Keep diagnosing until something works."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "815.39",
      "endTime": "815.79",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "815.79",
      "endTime": "828.52496",
      "body": "Right? That's the plan. So other than those things, we haven't been doing a ton of hockey. I mean, listen, here and there, we pick stuff up, you know, but not a ton. People get away and, you know, skilled coaches go away on vacation and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "828.765",
      "endTime": "832.365",
      "body": "No doubt. Different? Summer summer Yes. Schedule. Summer mode."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "832.365",
      "endTime": "833.485",
      "body": "Correct. Summer summer summer."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "833.485",
      "endTime": "842.31",
      "body": "Exactly right. So Summer. So definitely different. But yeah, man. So it really has been, you know, I I don't wanna say quiet springsummer, but listen, man."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "843.26996",
      "endTime": "844.87",
      "body": "August will be here before you know it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "845.02997",
      "endTime": "845.67",
      "body": "No doubt."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "845.67",
      "endTime": "857.20496",
      "body": "And we'll be rocking and rolling again. All of us will be rocking and rolling and driving all around God's creation with kids in the car and, you know, and at hockey tournaments. And I did book our flights for, Notre Dame."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "857.20496",
      "endTime": "858.08496",
      "body": "Oh, you did? I did."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "858.08496",
      "endTime": "861.44495",
      "body": "We booked our flights for Notre Dame. Yep. I'm sitting right next to Stacy and Larry."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "861.73",
      "endTime": "862.53",
      "body": "Oh, there you go."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "862.53",
      "endTime": "863.33",
      "body": "Right next to him."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "863.33",
      "endTime": "863.97003",
      "body": "Perfect."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "864.21",
      "endTime": "869.81",
      "body": "Yeah. So there's a bunch of kids on the same flight, so that'll be fun going out to Notre Dame, play a little ice hockey. I think we're gonna stay in Downtown Chicago"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "870.13",
      "endTime": "870.69",
      "body": "Yeah. You are."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "870.69",
      "endTime": "871.49",
      "body": "Thursday nights."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "871.49",
      "endTime": "872.53",
      "body": "Downtown."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "872.61",
      "endTime": "878.02496",
      "body": "We're gonna stay because I didn't I didn't wanna land in in in No. You don't. In Chicago and drive two hours at South Bend."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "878.02496",
      "endTime": "881.385",
      "body": "No. You don't. No. You gotta stay in the downtown."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "881.545",
      "endTime": "883.785",
      "body": "It's only one place only one place stays downtown."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "883.785",
      "endTime": "884.985",
      "body": "That's this. I know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "884.985",
      "endTime": "885.14496",
      "body": "You don't"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "885.14496",
      "endTime": "888.345",
      "body": "wanna deep dish, some Chicago style pizza."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "888.345",
      "endTime": "895.45996",
      "body": "Probably. Yeah? I mean That's good. My my wife and older one have never been. So now I'm sure they'll experience a little bit of deep dish."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "895.54",
      "endTime": "896.89996",
      "body": "So I'm not a big fan of that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "896.89996",
      "endTime": "897.86",
      "body": "Deep dish pizza?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "897.86",
      "endTime": "898.5",
      "body": "Not a fan."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "898.5",
      "endTime": "898.98",
      "body": "No. Uh-huh."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "898.98",
      "endTime": "899.54",
      "body": "Too heavy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "899.54",
      "endTime": "900.33997",
      "body": "Too heavy. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "900.33997",
      "endTime": "901.06",
      "body": "It's hot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "901.06",
      "endTime": "901.54",
      "body": "I hear you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "901.54",
      "endTime": "905.82495",
      "body": "I mean, you gotta try it when you're there. I've been, so I've tried it. I don't need to do it again."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "906.14496",
      "endTime": "914.38495",
      "body": "I I remember. I forget which place I went I forget the name. Super heavy. It was very heavy, but it was also so Yeah. Delicious."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "914.38495",
      "endTime": "915.665",
      "body": "I feel like they don't know how to make pizza"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "915.665",
      "endTime": "917.82495",
      "body": "in Chicago. They just make it differently,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "917.82495",
      "endTime": "920.8",
      "body": "dude. I guess. It's just not I don't know, it's not my thing."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "920.8",
      "endTime": "923.84",
      "body": "Well, they should and there's also Detroit style pizza."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "924.56",
      "endTime": "925.52",
      "body": "Which is what?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "925.60004",
      "endTime": "928.72003",
      "body": "Which is also similar. It's like a thicker crust."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "928.72003",
      "endTime": "929.28",
      "body": "Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "929.60004",
      "endTime": "932.015",
      "body": "And I forget exactly what's the difference."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "932.015",
      "endTime": "933.05505",
      "body": "Portnoy would not like this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "933.05505",
      "endTime": "939.135",
      "body": "I think they put I think they put the do they put the sauce on top? Of the cheese? I think so."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "939.135",
      "endTime": "942.815",
      "body": "So it goes so it goes dough cheese sauce?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "942.815",
      "endTime": "943.29504",
      "body": "Maybe."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "943.29504",
      "endTime": "949.18",
      "body": "Not dough sauce cheese? Detroit. Okay. I've been to Detroit and I have not tried this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "950.54",
      "endTime": "950.77997",
      "body": "Detroit"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "950.94",
      "endTime": "952.46",
      "body": "But you're the culinary master."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "952.54",
      "endTime": "961.265",
      "body": "It is a thick square cut pizza known for its airy focaccia like crust, crispy edges and Wisconsin brick cheese."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "961.265",
      "endTime": "961.745",
      "body": "Oh, so it's like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "961.745",
      "endTime": "969.10504",
      "body": "a Baked in a heavy high sided rectangular pan. The sauce is ladled on top of the cheese."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "969.185",
      "endTime": "969.985",
      "body": "Like you said."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "969.985",
      "endTime": "971.905",
      "body": "Like I said, dog."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "972.065",
      "endTime": "974.865",
      "body": "Okay. Got it. Snoop. Alright. Listen."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "975.56",
      "endTime": "977.88",
      "body": "Listen. I guess whatever works, you know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "977.88",
      "endTime": "985.32",
      "body": "Yeah. But you know what's also interesting about that part of the country? Like, so we're talking about Michigan. Yeah. That's got both Chicago."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "985.32",
      "endTime": "990.135",
      "body": "Oh, no. Chicago's in Illinois. Detroit's in Michigan. So no. But, like, that part of the country."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "990.135",
      "endTime": "990.29504",
      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "990.29504",
      "endTime": "991.73505",
      "body": "You have you have Detroit. The"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "991.73505",
      "endTime": "997.49506",
      "body": "Midwest. Right? Yeah. So you oh, what was I gonna say? So pizza."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "997.49506",
      "endTime": "1000.05505",
      "body": "I'm I'm obviously, Little Caesar's is from out that way."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1000.05505",
      "endTime": "1000.775",
      "body": "Pizza Pizza."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1000.775",
      "endTime": "1007.28",
      "body": "Right. But that's like, okay, a major pizza company. Mhmm. I if I'm not mistaken, Domino's is also out from the Midwest."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1007.28",
      "endTime": "1009.6",
      "body": "You just named two really dog shit pizza companies."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1009.6",
      "endTime": "1015.44",
      "body": "I'm not saying they're I'm just saying, where was Domino's founded?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1015.44",
      "endTime": "1017.04",
      "body": "I mean, like not."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1019.33496",
      "endTime": "1028.2949",
      "body": "Yeah. It was in I can't even read that word. I'll spell it for everyone. Y p s I l a n t I. Yipsilanti."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1028.2949",
      "endTime": "1029.4149",
      "body": "Michigan. Michigan."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1029.4149",
      "endTime": "1030.2949",
      "body": "Yeah. Got it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1030.58",
      "endTime": "1038.34",
      "body": "So anyway, the point of the story is is that for that part of this country between Illinois and Michigan, there's a lot of major pizza things that have come out of"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1038.34",
      "endTime": "1040.02",
      "body": "that part of the big pizza chains."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1040.02",
      "endTime": "1044.915",
      "body": "Yeah. But then there's also Yeah. There's a d there's a whole style out of Chicago. It's style pizza. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1044.915",
      "endTime": "1045.555",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1045.555",
      "endTime": "1047.075",
      "body": "No? Yeah. No. Absolutely."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1047.235",
      "endTime": "1051.155",
      "body": "You know? I don't know. Where was Pizza the Hut from besides baseballs?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1051.155",
      "endTime": "1052.915",
      "body": "Wait. I was just gonna say Pizza the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1052.915",
      "endTime": "1056.6499",
      "body": "Hut like like in the movie? I think it might be I think wait. Without Was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1056.6499",
      "endTime": "1061.6099",
      "body": "Pizza Hut like Sbarro was from Illinois? Indiana. Pizza Hut. Indiana. Really?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1061.85",
      "endTime": "1062.73",
      "body": "Let's see if I'm correct."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1062.73",
      "endTime": "1064.49",
      "body": "So where's Sbarro from? Look up Sbarro next."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1064.49",
      "endTime": "1067.1299",
      "body": "Oh, was Kansas. Oh, close. Close."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1067.21",
      "endTime": "1068.33",
      "body": "Alright. Not awful."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1068.33",
      "endTime": "1074.1849",
      "body": "Yeah. So Pizza Hut's from Kansas. A lot of pizza in non, like, it I would think Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1074.1849",
      "endTime": "1078.505",
      "body": "Like, your Midwestern ethnic areas. Yeah. Population. What what was that? Papa John's?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1078.505",
      "endTime": "1079.3049",
      "body": "Where's that from?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1079.465",
      "endTime": "1081.465",
      "body": "Oh, dude. Papa John's."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1081.465",
      "endTime": "1083.065",
      "body": "I'm trying to say Papa John's, Sapporo."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1083.065",
      "endTime": "1083.3049",
      "body": "Never had"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1083.3049",
      "endTime": "1084.745",
      "body": "Sapporo. Still around, by the way?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1086.04",
      "endTime": "1092.36",
      "body": "Yes. Because I actually I had a rest stop. I had Okay. Yeah. I had a rest stop on the New Jersey Turnpike."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1092.36",
      "endTime": "1097.56",
      "body": "I did a, like an entrepreneurial I had an entrepreneurial class in college where you had to pick Oh."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1097.945",
      "endTime": "1099.545",
      "body": "Papa John's is from Indiana."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1099.545",
      "endTime": "1102.265",
      "body": "Oh, that. Okay. So you had were on the same page. Okay. You were right"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1102.265",
      "endTime": "1106.0249",
      "body": "there. The Midwest is like the pizza hotbed."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1106.1849",
      "endTime": "1108.905",
      "body": "And you noticed that a lot of them are not around much anymore?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1108.905",
      "endTime": "1109.625",
      "body": "Well, either"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1109.625",
      "endTime": "1111.065",
      "body": "way. They are just not around here."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1111.065",
      "endTime": "1112.585",
      "body": "A lot of pizza enthusiasts. Okay?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1113.66",
      "endTime": "1120.06",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. I suppose Portnoy would not like I I can't imagine Portnoy walks in any of those places."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1120.4601",
      "endTime": "1121.5",
      "body": "I wouldn't think so."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1121.5",
      "endTime": "1122.2201",
      "body": "No. I wouldn't think so."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1122.2201",
      "endTime": "1123.9",
      "body": "No. That's not what he not I don't think that's"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1123.9",
      "endTime": "1131.185",
      "body": "not what I'm Like, I can't see Portnoy liking, like, a deep dish. He may try it, but it's not his jam. Yeah. He likes like thin"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1131.345",
      "endTime": "1131.905",
      "body": "I'm not up on"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1131.985",
      "endTime": "1132.225",
      "body": "He likes"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1132.465",
      "endTime": "1135.905",
      "body": "know butter pie. I know he does the, the pizza, the one bite."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1135.905",
      "endTime": "1137.985",
      "body": "One bite. Whatever knows the rules."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1138.0651",
      "endTime": "1138.785",
      "body": "What's it called?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1138.785",
      "endTime": "1146.49",
      "body": "One bite well, it's One Bite Pizza Reviews, but he says one bite, everybody knows the rules. But then he takes, like, nine bites. You know? Yeah. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1146.49",
      "endTime": "1149.9299",
      "body": "But he know he's he's done a ton of places around us, by the way."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1149.9299",
      "endTime": "1153.45",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Tons. Yeah. Well, he was just I mean, he was just here for a book signing"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1153.53",
      "endTime": "1154.49",
      "body": "around here. He was."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1154.49",
      "endTime": "1155.69",
      "body": "Yes. I think it just passed."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1155.69",
      "endTime": "1157.77",
      "body": "Anyway Yeah. Was I think you're right. I think it was early July."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1157.925",
      "endTime": "1164.0851",
      "body": "So pizza why are we talking about pizza? I started talking about pizza because you were talking about bought you bought your flight, and you're staying"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1164.0851",
      "endTime": "1167.6051",
      "body": "in downtown. Right. Right. You were yes. So we're staying in downtown for Thursday night."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1167.6051",
      "endTime": "1172.24",
      "body": "I think we're gonna drive out to South Bend on Friday morning because I think they have games, like, Friday evening or Saturday"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1172.24",
      "endTime": "1176.4799",
      "body": "morning. Go to Papa John's, of course, now and now that you know. You're going to Indiana now?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1177.2",
      "endTime": "1177.6",
      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1177.6",
      "endTime": "1178.08",
      "body": "Okay. But"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1178.08",
      "endTime": "1181.44",
      "body": "it's very unlikely that this Dave Portnoy's thing just popped up on my phone."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1181.44",
      "endTime": "1182.48",
      "body": "That's because your phone listens."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1182.48",
      "endTime": "1185.12",
      "body": "How many? Seriously. You can't hide anything from your phone."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1185.12",
      "endTime": "1187.12",
      "body": "No. So you get so you're gonna go to Papa John's?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1187.3351",
      "endTime": "1188.4551",
      "body": "Unlikely."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1188.4551",
      "endTime": "1190.535",
      "body": "You're gonna have deep dish pizza in Chicago?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1190.535",
      "endTime": "1193.5751",
      "body": "Probably will because my wife wanna try it and so my older one."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1193.5751",
      "endTime": "1194.615",
      "body": "It's all it's like a"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1194.8551",
      "endTime": "1200.775",
      "body": "It's like a it's like a rite rite of package. It's like of package. Right of passage. You have to try it. It's a lot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1200.8551",
      "endTime": "1202.2151",
      "body": "It's too much. Not a fan."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1202.7101",
      "endTime": "1203.3501",
      "body": "Anyhow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1203.3501",
      "endTime": "1206.15",
      "body": "I like your New York style pizza, your thinner crust."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1206.15",
      "endTime": "1207.1901",
      "body": "Yeah. I'm down with that. You know"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1207.1901",
      "endTime": "1217.1901",
      "body": "what I mean? Yep. There was a place in I wanna say it's like the Coldwell Y area. Maybe it is Coldwell. Where they had this thing called the Thinny Thin."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1218.595",
      "endTime": "1228.835",
      "body": "And what is the name of the restaurant? But Portnoy went there. Yeah. We've eating there for years. And Portnoy went there, and he gave it like a massive score, like monster score."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1228.835",
      "endTime": "1232.035",
      "body": "Really? Shockingly monster score. Wow. Yeah. It's called New Jersey."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1233.13",
      "endTime": "1235.13",
      "body": "And I wanna say Angeloni. Is Angeloni's?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1235.13",
      "endTime": "1236.09",
      "body": "Could be. I don't know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1236.09",
      "endTime": "1237.9299",
      "body": "I Angeloni's think in cold."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1237.9299",
      "endTime": "1239.9299",
      "body": "You're the one that's been going there for years, not me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1239.9299",
      "endTime": "1250.865",
      "body": "Yeah. I haven't been in a while. I'm not gonna lie. I wanna say it's Angeloni's Caldwell, New Jersey. Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1250.865",
      "endTime": "1256.3849",
      "body": "Angelo's restaurant, Caldwell, New Jersey. Like, they had this thing called a thinny thin."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1256.3849",
      "endTime": "1258.705",
      "body": "Yep. No joke. Thin pizza."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1258.705",
      "endTime": "1265.49",
      "body": "Yes. And and then so we've been eating it for years even before Port Portnoy came in there, and then he came in there Mhmm. And the place has exploded since."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1265.49",
      "endTime": "1267.01",
      "body": "How recently was he there?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1267.0901",
      "endTime": "1268.4501",
      "body": "I wanna say, like, two years ago."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1268.4501",
      "endTime": "1269.41",
      "body": "Two years ago. Yeah. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1269.41",
      "endTime": "1269.5701",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1269.5701",
      "endTime": "1270.2101",
      "body": "That makes sense."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1270.2101",
      "endTime": "1275.89",
      "body": "Yeah. So we we we have gone there because it's not far from my office, one of my offices. So the place is legit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1276.085",
      "endTime": "1277.285",
      "body": "Okay. Yeah. For those"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1277.285",
      "endTime": "1277.925",
      "body": "of in the cold while"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1277.925",
      "endTime": "1282.485",
      "body": "you actually know Angeloni's. How about you invite me next time you decide to go there?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1282.485",
      "endTime": "1283.045",
      "body": "I can."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1283.045",
      "endTime": "1284.405",
      "body": "Yeah. That'd be nice. Thanks. I appreciate"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "1284.405",
      "endTime": "1284.5651",
      "body": "it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1284.5651",
      "endTime": "1285.205",
      "body": "You wanna go?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1285.205",
      "endTime": "1285.925",
      "body": "Yeah. I'd love to."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1285.925",
      "endTime": "1292.77",
      "body": "And there's also a place called Star, Star Pizza, which I'm sure everybody in North Jersey knows. It's in a little bit of a rough area."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1292.77",
      "endTime": "1300.13",
      "body": "Maybe I don't know about this. Star is But I'm not I'm you know, I don't keep tabs on pizza places either. So"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1300.45",
      "endTime": "1312.575",
      "body": "So Star Tavern is in it's in one of the oranges. K. It's a little I don't wanna say dangerous, but there are cameras in the parking lot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1312.975",
      "endTime": "1313.375",
      "body": "Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1313.375",
      "endTime": "1319.615",
      "body": "And they say, like, you know, we're not responsible for your vehicle. Okay. Got it. So it's a little bit of it's it's kinda"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1320.39",
      "endTime": "1321.8301",
      "body": "Okay. I got you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1321.8301",
      "endTime": "1323.59",
      "body": "Not sure I'd go there in the evening."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1323.99",
      "endTime": "1324.63",
      "body": "Got you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1324.63",
      "endTime": "1327.67",
      "body": "Right? Right? But the Pizza at Star is pretty decent."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1327.67",
      "endTime": "1330.2301",
      "body": "Okay. You've been there too? I have. Wow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1330.2301",
      "endTime": "1330.9501",
      "body": "Bar pie ish."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1330.9501",
      "endTime": "1331.75",
      "body": "And you went during the day?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1331.985",
      "endTime": "1335.745",
      "body": "We did. Went for lunch. Like, one 01:32. Okay. Something like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1335.745",
      "endTime": "1337.265",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Daytime. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1337.265",
      "endTime": "1340.7849",
      "body": "Yeah. The areas it's not awful."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1340.785",
      "endTime": "1341.1849",
      "body": "Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1341.1849",
      "endTime": "1342.225",
      "body": "I got you. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1342.225",
      "endTime": "1348.47",
      "body": "Yeah. But you might want a security guard. Alright. Anyway I'm joking. It's not that bad."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1348.47",
      "endTime": "1351.27",
      "body": "So this would be let's, we need to shout out partners quick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1351.27",
      "endTime": "1358.71",
      "body": "Yeah. Howie's hockey, Crazy ten. Go get your tape, laces, gear. Scott's favorite, the candle. My favorite, the yellow handled scissors."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1358.87",
      "endTime": "1366.955",
      "body": "They cut everything in my house. I mean, literally everything in my house. We have more of those around my house than we do like kitchen knives."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1366.955",
      "endTime": "1370.075",
      "body": "That's that's weird. It's it's I'm not gonna lie. It's a little weird."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1370.075",
      "endTime": "1372.875",
      "body": "Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. It's ridiculous. Okay. We cut we cut everything with them."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1373.17",
      "endTime": "1378.77",
      "body": "So, yeah. So go go check out how you saw your toenails. Wow. That's a little much. That, I'm not so sure."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1378.77",
      "endTime": "1381.09",
      "body": "I would worry about losing my toe."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "1381.09",
      "endTime": "1381.5701",
      "body": "Mhmm. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1381.5701",
      "endTime": "1382.93",
      "body": "Not sure I would actually do that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1382.93",
      "endTime": "1386.93",
      "body": "Yeah. Well, clearly, you're you're not very, your dexterity is not up there."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1387.475",
      "endTime": "1389.315",
      "body": "I would just be worried about slipping."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1389.3151",
      "endTime": "1390.435",
      "body": "I mean, I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1390.995",
      "endTime": "1393.315",
      "body": "Dude, I'm telling you these things cut sheet metal."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1393.3151",
      "endTime": "1395.0751",
      "body": "I know. Go. Alright. Go. Go."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1395.0751",
      "endTime": "1400.275",
      "body": "So go to Howie's Hockey. Check use our code crazy 10 for 10% off your Howie's hockey gear."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1400.38",
      "endTime": "1432.4099",
      "body": "That's it. And with the off season in full swing, go to hockeytraining.com and check out what coach Kevin has to offer. And once you do, you are going to see a massive library of off ice training to improve your your stick handling, speed, strength, agility. And he's got a number of different programs and platforms for, you know, youth players up to, you know, adult beer leaguers. And so if you're looking to improve your game and do things at home, not at the rink, go to hockeytraining.com and check it out."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1432.65",
      "endTime": "1441.29",
      "body": "If you also are on Instagram, go to hockey training HQ and see what Kevin's got going on Instagram. But, yeah, check him out. Hockeytraining.com."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1441.29",
      "endTime": "1449.945",
      "body": "Great library. Great library. Next, have Titan Battle Gear. So Dominic Nancy just bought Dominic, the base layer that dropped on July 4. Oh."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1449.945",
      "endTime": "1455.465",
      "body": "It was out at, like, 7AM. They came out with a white, USA hockey logo. Drop it"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1455.465",
      "endTime": "1456.265",
      "body": "with, hot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1456.345",
      "endTime": "1462.8799",
      "body": "We had with the flag under it. Pretty sweet. Not gonna lie. The extra the youth extra large is already sold out. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1463.2",
      "endTime": "1471.2799",
      "body": "So Goddamn. Go get your Titan battle gear. Use the code crazy dads 10 for 10% off. We love it. We think it's the best protection on the market."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1471.545",
      "endTime": "1482.8251",
      "body": "And like I said about the styles, the styles are insane. New USA one that just dropped, I hope that it's not sold out in your kid's, size. But go check it out. They have great stuff. If you're if it's sold out, they have other awesome stuff as well."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1482.8251",
      "endTime": "1499.0",
      "body": "The styles are phenomenal, and the protection is is is top notch. So go check out Titan Battle Gear. Use the, use our URL in the show notes, which is titanbattlegear.com backslash crazy hockey dads. Use the code crazy dads 10 for 10% off your Titan battle gear."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1499.115",
      "endTime": "1522.18",
      "body": "That's it. And to all you coaches and managers out there that are looking into video analytics for your team this year, go check out Athletic Performance Insight. And on that website, you will find a contact form. Reach out to Eric, the the owner, the man who made the platform, and he'll be happy to do a demo for you of what it can do. He'll also be happy to break down a game for free so you can see what the analytics look like."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1522.5801",
      "endTime": "1547.2599",
      "body": "But I can tell you from using it myself, it's got everything that you could possibly want from a stat perspective. You know, and if you have you're coaching on your teams and don't need certain things, not something you have to invest time, effort, energy into. But athletic performance insight's a great tool for video analytics for individual, you know, education as well as team education. So check it out. Athleticperformanceinsight.com."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1548.14",
      "endTime": "1551.18",
      "body": "And do we have a show for you guys, sir?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1551.18",
      "endTime": "1555.065",
      "body": "You didn't do what you normally do. Come on, man."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1555.625",
      "endTime": "1558.985",
      "body": "A $100 value? Yes. I mean, don't do it every time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1559.145",
      "endTime": "1561.065",
      "body": "But I'm pretty sure you do it a lot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1561.065",
      "endTime": "1563.305",
      "body": "I have to mix I do it a lot. You're not you're not wrong. I have"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1563.305",
      "endTime": "1565.785",
      "body": "to mix it up a little bit. If you weren't gonna do it, then I would have done it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1566.1901",
      "endTime": "1568.35",
      "body": "Okay. Fair. Well, listen. So do it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1568.35",
      "endTime": "1574.35",
      "body": "Okay. So for any new users, imagine Crazy Hockey Dads to get 10% off your season subscription."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1574.35",
      "endTime": "1575.07",
      "body": "Which is?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1575.39",
      "endTime": "1576.5901",
      "body": "A $100 value."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1576.5901",
      "endTime": "1583.845",
      "body": "A $100 value. That's like a third of a hockey stick these days. Dude. I mean, that's real money, people. It's a third of a hockey stick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1583.845",
      "endTime": "1585.525",
      "body": "Sadly, it's You could literally"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1585.525",
      "endTime": "1592.245",
      "body": "buy the blade and maybe up to where its shaft starts a little bit. Yeah. And that's what you get."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1592.245",
      "endTime": "1594.965",
      "body": "Well, that's like that's like an E hockey stick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1594.965",
      "endTime": "1596.645",
      "body": "Of course, is. Yep. No question about it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1597.12",
      "endTime": "1598.72",
      "body": "So anyway, I interrupted you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1598.72",
      "endTime": "1600.5599",
      "body": "You did. But that's okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1600.5599",
      "endTime": "1601.84",
      "body": "So you can get back on track."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1601.84",
      "endTime": "1604.88",
      "body": "So I was just gonna tell everybody that we have an insane guest today."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1604.88",
      "endTime": "1606.88",
      "body": "Oh, well, who is that insane guest, Jamie?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1606.88",
      "endTime": "1633.6199",
      "body": "I mean, it's pretty listen. We are here to deliver just get 1% better every day. Right? So we're gonna keep delivering better and not like our guests that we've had are not ridiculous because they all are ridiculous, but we're trying to level up for you guys. So we have the 2026 Hobey Baker Award Winner, Max Plante, University Minnesota Duluth, that is going to come on and talk with us today."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1633.62",
      "endTime": "1636.98",
      "body": "Unreal. Sick, dude. Yeah. I can't wait to hear about this kid's journey."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1636.98",
      "endTime": "1638.385",
      "body": "Sick, sick, sick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1638.385",
      "endTime": "1639.0249",
      "body": "I know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1639.105",
      "endTime": "1652.625",
      "body": "I mean, I'm so excited to talk to this kid. Yeah. I mean, he is he was he is a Detroit Red Wings draft pick. He played US men's national development team. He is a just finished his sophomore year at UMD."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1654.76",
      "endTime": "1665.0",
      "body": "I mean, this kid just won the Hobey Baker as a sophomore. Yep. I was telling you before, the last person to do it as a sophomore is Cole Caulfield. I mean, so he's in some pretty heavy heavy, you know"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1665.705",
      "endTime": "1666.825",
      "body": "Heavy duty company?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1666.825",
      "endTime": "1674.5049",
      "body": "Thank you. Big time company there. You know, with when he does a sophomore, he exploded this year. What's also cool is that his brothers are on the same team."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1674.825",
      "endTime": "1676.265",
      "body": "Last year, it was just two of them."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1676.265",
      "endTime": "1677.385",
      "body": "It was him and Zam."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1677.385",
      "endTime": "1679.7849",
      "body": "Yeah. And now the youngest is joining. Victor."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1679.82",
      "endTime": "1681.34",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Which is pretty sick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1681.34",
      "endTime": "1681.98",
      "body": "That's unreal."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1681.98",
      "endTime": "1684.5399",
      "body": "I mean, how many how many people get to play with their brothers?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1684.62",
      "endTime": "1687.6599",
      "body": "Not many. Right? Especially when the upper three of have, like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1688.1399",
      "endTime": "1689.5",
      "body": "Have they in college like that?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "1689.5",
      "endTime": "1689.6599",
      "body": "Well, I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1689.6599",
      "endTime": "1695.005",
      "body": "don't know about college. Yes. For sure in college. Because at BU, at one point, there was two Celebrinis. There was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1695.005",
      "endTime": "1696.9249",
      "body": "two There's two Hudson's, but not three."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1696.9249",
      "endTime": "1702.9249",
      "body": "No. There wasn't three, but there was there's two Celebrinis. There was two Hudson's. Right. And there was also two Two is easier."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1703.245",
      "endTime": "1705.325",
      "body": "But there's a third set of brothers on the team."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1705.725",
      "endTime": "1707.165",
      "body": "On the BU Terriers?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1707.165",
      "endTime": "1708.765",
      "body": "Yeah. I'm almost positive of it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1709.35",
      "endTime": "1712.7899",
      "body": "Oh, yeah. Wasn't that there was oh, their fan the Fantilli's run Michigan."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1712.7899",
      "endTime": "1713.99",
      "body": "No. Fantilli's run Michigan."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1713.99",
      "endTime": "1714.71",
      "body": "Yeah. That was Michigan."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1714.71",
      "endTime": "1719.5099",
      "body": "Who was the third boom I remember on BU? I think there was three sets of brothers all the same year."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1719.5099",
      "endTime": "1722.47",
      "body": "Really? Yeah. Were they were they big time, like, major players?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1723.865",
      "endTime": "1725.065",
      "body": "The Hudson Brothers."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1725.065",
      "endTime": "1726.2649",
      "body": "Well, the Hudson Brothers are major players."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1726.2649",
      "endTime": "1727.065",
      "body": "Celebrini Brothers."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1727.065",
      "endTime": "1727.865",
      "body": "Also major players."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "1727.865",
      "endTime": "1728.1849",
      "body": "But I'm"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1728.1849",
      "endTime": "1733.945",
      "body": "saying So I'm saying we're, like, we're, like, three, like So 50% of both of those pairs have gone on to Don't get me wrong."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "1734.0249",
      "endTime": "1734.585",
      "body": "Be remarkable."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1734.585",
      "endTime": "1743.35",
      "body": "A 100%. Yeah. I mean but but again, I think it's hard were all three Hudson boys on BU the same time? Quinn, Cole, and Lane at the same time?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1743.35",
      "endTime": "1744.55",
      "body": "No. They weren't. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1744.55",
      "endTime": "1749.75",
      "body": "No. No. So I think Quinn was gone when Cole wasn't there. When Cole came, Quinn was gone or something like that?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1749.75",
      "endTime": "1755.4349",
      "body": "No. No. Quinn because Quinn's the oldest. Right? Quinn might have been there for a year with his brother."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1755.435",
      "endTime": "1757.435",
      "body": "And so Quinn Quinn and Lane played together"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1757.675",
      "endTime": "1757.995",
      "body": "That I know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1757.995",
      "endTime": "1763.1951",
      "body": "For sure. And then I don't then I thought Quinn was gone. Quinn Quinn and I don't"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1763.5951",
      "endTime": "1774.29",
      "body": "I don't think they played together, b u. If I'm if I'm maybe I'm wrong and somebody write us and tell us if we're we're incorrect. I thought the three Hudson's did were not on the ice at the same time, same year."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1774.53",
      "endTime": "1774.8501",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1774.8501",
      "endTime": "1775.89",
      "body": "That's pretty rare."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1777.0901",
      "endTime": "1780.77",
      "body": "What's Oh, here. And then it was, it was Case and Gavin McCarthy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1781.375",
      "endTime": "1782.3351",
      "body": "Okay. I don't know who those"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1782.3351",
      "endTime": "1790.735",
      "body": "guys are. So the Two of them. Case served as the team's captain and was drafted by the Devils. His younger brother Gavin's defenseman was picked in the second round by the Sabres. Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1790.735",
      "endTime": "1798.84",
      "body": "But that was the three sets of brothers that were all on. It was Macklin and Aiden Celebrini, Elaine and Quinn Hudson, and then Case and Gavin McCarthy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1798.84",
      "endTime": "1803.72",
      "body": "Right. So we have we have we had three in the in college? I'm sure there has been in the past."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1803.72",
      "endTime": "1804.12",
      "body": "Oh, prob"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1804.28",
      "endTime": "1813.6349",
      "body": "But it's pretty rare, dude. Yep. I mean, think about that. I mean, you need three, I mean, three brothers need to be need to have birthdays pretty close to each other. Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1813.635",
      "endTime": "1814.4349",
      "body": "They all need to be,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1814.4349",
      "endTime": "1816.5149",
      "body": "like, heavy duty players. Set of twins."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1816.595",
      "endTime": "1823.1499",
      "body": "True. That's true. But that's wild, man, that he's gonna get to play. The three of them are gonna be on the same team. Oh."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1823.23",
      "endTime": "1824.11",
      "body": "Which is pretty nuts."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1824.11",
      "endTime": "1825.3099",
      "body": "They're gonna have a blast."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1825.3099",
      "endTime": "1828.5099",
      "body": "And their parents are both UMD grads."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1828.6699",
      "endTime": "1829.23",
      "body": "That's unreal."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1829.23",
      "endTime": "1832.6699",
      "body": "So, like, they've all I think the his mom and dad met there."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1832.91",
      "endTime": "1834.6699",
      "body": "Oh, did they? Is that a fact? Yeah. Wow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1834.6699",
      "endTime": "1835.87",
      "body": "That's so stud apparently."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1836.215",
      "endTime": "1837.175",
      "body": "In what sport?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1837.175",
      "endTime": "1839.975",
      "body": "I think softball as well? No. Softball and basketball."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1839.975",
      "endTime": "1848.0549",
      "body": "Oh, interesting. Yeah. That mean, that's not surprising. You know, a lot of times, like, you know, the athletic genes, you know, come moms are Listen."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1848.055",
      "endTime": "1849.255",
      "body": "And the dad won a Stanley Cup?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1849.74",
      "endTime": "1854.46",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. No. Listen. They definitely definitely came from an athletically inclined family."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1854.46",
      "endTime": "1859.18",
      "body": "No question about it. You know where the dad's from? The dad's from Cloquet, Minnesota."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1859.18",
      "endTime": "1861.02",
      "body": "Oh, really? 100%. That's so funny."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1861.02",
      "endTime": "1863.66",
      "body": "I have to ask him if he knows. He has to know Gordy's high hat."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1864.0549",
      "endTime": "1865.895",
      "body": "Oh, there you go. Yes. Yeah. Of course."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1865.895",
      "endTime": "1876.455",
      "body": "Yes. So for those of you who don't who who missed it, we had Sadie Lundquist on episode 30 something. So she is from Cloquet, Minnesota. She went to Bemidji State. Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1876.615",
      "endTime": "1894.775",
      "body": "She put she played pro for a couple years, but her grandparents founded Gordie's Hi Hat, which is a very impressive and well known burger joint Yes. In Cloquet, Minnesota. So I would think that I can't wait to ask Max if he knows the Gordie's hi hat. And what is his go to there?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1894.775",
      "endTime": "1895.8151",
      "body": "Yeah. We're gonna find out."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1895.8151",
      "endTime": "1898.855",
      "body": "We're definitely gonna find out. What was what was Sadie's go to?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1898.935",
      "endTime": "1900.615",
      "body": "Wasn't a bacon cheeseburger?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1900.6951",
      "endTime": "1903.415",
      "body": "And then and then her mom got on her and she changed it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1903.495",
      "endTime": "1903.8151",
      "body": "Yes. I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1903.8151",
      "endTime": "1905.3351",
      "body": "don't Like chicken fingers or something like that?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1905.3351",
      "endTime": "1906.135",
      "body": "That sounds right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1906.135",
      "endTime": "1912.56",
      "body": "Something like that? I gotta go back and listen. But yeah. So go check out our our last episode with Sadie Lundquist, also an awesome episode."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1912.56",
      "endTime": "1913.04",
      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1913.04",
      "endTime": "1918.56",
      "body": "But, but, yeah, man. I'm really looking forward to this. Our first ever Hobey Baker award award winner here"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1918.8",
      "endTime": "1919.4401",
      "body": "That's right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1919.4401",
      "endTime": "1921.04",
      "body": "On the Crazy Hockey Dads Podcast."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1921.04",
      "endTime": "1922.515",
      "body": "Well, good intro."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1922.515",
      "endTime": "1922.995",
      "body": "Thanks, buddy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "1922.995",
      "endTime": "1925.3151",
      "body": "What do think? You wanna kick it over to him? Yep. Alright."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1925.3151",
      "endTime": "1936.115",
      "body": "Here we go, buddy. Enjoy. Alright, everybody. We have a real treat today. For our next interview, we have UMD Bulldog and 2,026 Hobey Baker Award winner, Max Plante Max Man."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1936.6901",
      "endTime": "1939.49",
      "body": "Thank you so much for coming on with us. Really appreciate you coming on."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "1939.65",
      "endTime": "1941.73",
      "body": "Yeah. Thank you, guys. Thanks for having me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1942.53",
      "endTime": "1955.865",
      "body": "So we wanna get into everything that you've done, you know, up to this time. Give a little bit of an overview of where you are now, and then we'll rewind the tape and go back to kind of where you were as a kid and how you started playing this great game?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "1956.505",
      "endTime": "1982.495",
      "body": "Yeah. Obviously, right now, I'm pretty much living my dream, my childhood dream, playing for my hometown college at same place my parents got to play. And, actually, next year, I get to play with both my brothers. So it's something that not many people have really ever had the chance to do and to do it at this high of a level at division one. And I think our team's gonna have a really good chance next year to hopefully win win a lot of hockey games."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "1982.735",
      "endTime": "1997.7899",
      "body": "So I'm excited. Obviously, had a lot of individual success last year along with our team was really good too. But, yeah, I'm just kinda having fun right now, training in the off season with my brothers and just a bunch of guys in the area. So it's been a lot of fun."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "1998.2699",
      "endTime": "2008.1099",
      "body": "Yeah, man. That's pretty nuts that, like, the three of you are on the same college team. I mean, I know you and Zam played together last year, and now Victor's coming up this next season. Is that what the situation is?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2008.35",
      "endTime": "2008.9099",
      "body": "Exactly."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2010.225",
      "endTime": "2014.5449",
      "body": "That's like nuts, by the way. Yeah. Who who gets to play with their brothers in college?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2014.625",
      "endTime": "2021.1849",
      "body": "I know. And we're all we're all forwards too, so hopefully, our coach can maybe put us together, but we'll see what happens."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2021.665",
      "endTime": "2024.705",
      "body": "You you were on a pretty formidable line last year. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2025.21",
      "endTime": "2034.25",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. That was the problem too is Jason Chagavad was our winger this year, and he had, like, just about 50 points. So Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2034.25",
      "endTime": "2037.0499",
      "body": "It's kinda kinda hard to split a line like that up."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2037.45",
      "endTime": "2043.775",
      "body": "Exactly. You're not kidding. Yeah, man. So let's rewind the table a bit. Let's go back to when you were a kid."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2044.0951",
      "endTime": "2061.04",
      "body": "Obviously, parents, you know, helped develop three unbelievable hockey players. Your mom was a sick athlete in college. Your dad is an NHL guy who has a Stanley Cup under his belt. So talk about, like, how you started this game, like and we'll go from there, man."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2061.28",
      "endTime": "2080.2651",
      "body": "Yeah. Pretty much just listening to a lot of different people about how they started hockey, pretty much the same way. Was in skates as soon as I could walk just about. So that was kinda built in, but I just think to the the way that my parents instilled into us, like, whatever we're gonna do, we're gonna go full on. I played all kinds of sports."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2080.2651",
      "endTime": "2095.92",
      "body": "I played soccer, baseball. I played tennis in high school, actually. Wow. Any anything I could really do. I I was in basketball for, like, a couple summers just doing camps and stuff because my mom played, but I couldn't really shoot very well, so I kinda stopped with that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2095.92",
      "endTime": "2114.0",
      "body": "But, yeah, I pretty much did everything. We're out on the lake in the summers at the cabin. And then in the winter, it was full blown hockey. We it was pretty competitive just with the two brothers, and that was kinda when our dad kinda was winding down. Like, he didn't really wasn't really playing anymore, but he was coaching."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2114.0",
      "endTime": "2128.615",
      "body": "So in the backyard, he'd join. He'd be on my little brother's team. We'd kinda go two on two all the time, so that was pretty fun. And then just pretty much, like, growing up in Hermantown. I don't know if you guys know really, but it's kind of a it's kind of a pretty big hockey."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2130.775",
      "endTime": "2136.9348",
      "body": "Right. That's alright. We got you back. Oh, that's what it was. That's alright."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2138.46",
      "endTime": "2139.66",
      "body": "We got you back."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2140.6199",
      "endTime": "2141.42",
      "body": "So good?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2141.42",
      "endTime": "2142.3",
      "body": "Yep. Good to go."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2142.3",
      "endTime": "2143.98",
      "body": "Yep. Okay. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2144.94",
      "endTime": "2146.22",
      "body": "So So pretty much"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2146.46",
      "endTime": "2164.455",
      "body": "pretty much, like, growing up in Hermantown, like, my grandpa was the high school coach, and that's all we looked up to. That's all I pretty much wanted to do was go to the state tournament and play for the hawks. And then my time there, like, growing up, like, we had a lot of success, and our squirt team was really good. We won a lot of tournaments. Our peewee team was really good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2164.455",
      "endTime": "2184.03",
      "body": "Kind of our age group was it was a lot of fun. We got I mean, next year, we got four guys from our state high school state championship team on on our bulldog team, so that's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, going into high school, you had to play only sophomore year I got to play. So that was my dream. I just wanted to play high school, go to the state tourney."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2184.19",
      "endTime": "2212.09",
      "body": "That's still to this day the most nervous I've ever been for a game was Wow. Our section final to go to the state tournament. We ended up winning 11 to nothing, but that's the most nervous I've ever been for a game. I was like, I don't know if our whole bus ride, we said a word to each other, but we ended up winning the state championship too, which was pretty cool. But, yeah, just growing up, that's pretty much my dream was to play for Hermantown, go to state tournament, and then hopefully get to play for the bulldogs."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2212.395",
      "endTime": "2213.195",
      "body": "Wait. But we"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2214.155",
      "endTime": "2215.115",
      "body": "sorry. Go ahead."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2215.675",
      "endTime": "2220.955",
      "body": "That's pretty much I've accomplished both of those pretty much so far. Sorry. I know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2221.5151",
      "endTime": "2224.235",
      "body": "I was gonna ask. Were were you there when they were filming Hockey Land?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2225.46",
      "endTime": "2238.98",
      "body": "That was two years before me. So that was, like, like, beyond you. So I was a eighth grader. My brother was a freshman, but they don't let freshmen play in Hermantown just get more ice time, more games. You play, like, 60 games in Banham."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2238.98",
      "endTime": "2244.935",
      "body": "So Yeah. It's worked out for us, but I think I I might have a couple clips in the stands watching."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2245.175",
      "endTime": "2245.7349",
      "body": "Oh, really?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2245.7349",
      "endTime": "2248.855",
      "body": "Because that was that was pretty cool to be a part of. But"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2249.095",
      "endTime": "2280.445",
      "body": "That's a great it was it was great just to see kinda, like, what you know, get a little more familiar with what Minnesota hockey culture is like because it's obviously unique in that, you know, in in many ways. But I I wanted to ask you just about, like, well, a bunch of things, but, like, just going back to, like, when you first started when you were a young kid, like, obviously, your, like, your older brother was playing. Was there ever a time where, like, you thought maybe there was other sports that were more interesting to you or you want to go in a different direction, or was, like, hockey always, like, the primary sport for you?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2281.5652",
      "endTime": "2303.0952",
      "body": "So, actually, when we were younger, baseball I was pretty good at baseball. So, like, once the I was always a triple a guy. Like, I'd play triple a summer hockey with the Minnesota Blades, but I would normally miss a couple tournaments for baseball just because, like, I was pretty good at it, and my brother really liked it too. We went to the state tournament. Actually, our Herman Town team did."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2303.0952",
      "endTime": "2316.9402",
      "body": "But once we got to kinda high school, it was kinda like I got pretty feeling I'm pretty good at this hockey thing, and our baseball coach was kinda strict on if we can play spring hockey and or"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2317.02",
      "endTime": "2317.1802",
      "body": "and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2317.1802",
      "endTime": "2337.595",
      "body": "play baseball, so we kinda resorted to playing tennis at that point Mhmm. Which we've always we've always kinda got to play, like, against brothers and stuff, but to do it in high school against, like, other teams was kinda fun. Because I'm not maybe the most technical tennis player, but I'm I feel like I'm competitive and along with my brothers, so we can compete with a lot of guys out there. So that was pretty fun."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2338.58",
      "endTime": "2344.02",
      "body": "That's funny. I would have never guessed that you played spring tennis, dude. Never in a million years. You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2344.02",
      "endTime": "2374.1501",
      "body": "How how does like, in in so in in growing up in terms of being a multi sport athlete, because, like, around here and, you know, for a lot of kids, it it can become difficult when there's, like, you know, you're playing club hockey or private hockey. And that, like, once your season winds down, you know, it's overlapping with other, like, spring sports potentially, and then there's, like, all the spring hockey. And I know you said you played with the blades. But, like, was it did you find it difficult to be a multi sport athlete growing up as a kid, or, like, it just that was or or not not really?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2374.47",
      "endTime": "2390.355",
      "body": "I think part of it was all my buddies kinda were doing similar things. Mhmm. My one of my best friends, Ty Hanson, he plays with me at UMD now. Like, he was the same way, soccer and baseball, kinda doing it all. So it's kinda easy because we never really got worn out."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2390.355",
      "endTime": "2410.8",
      "body": "Like, I mean, you're little, and you just wanna go do the next thing. So I think that was easy, and my mom was a big believer. I get out of the house, like, pretty much every day in middle school and even, like, freshman year, we'd play wiffle ball. Like, we'd have a bunch of friends come over in our backyard and play wiffle ball. Like, that was probably some of the best times we ever had, like, the whole fall."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2410.8",
      "endTime": "2438.9",
      "body": "And then once the rinks got shut down, everyone would come over in the spring. So I watch more baseball games sometimes when I was younger than I did hockey, but it's pretty much been hockey since. But I would say about the multisport thing like you were saying, like, I mean, you're gonna play so much hockey, and especially with how competitive it's getting, like, I I don't see why not play another sport if you're interested in it because it I feel like it's helped me. So"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2439.94",
      "endTime": "2443.94",
      "body": "You you think that college coaches look for multisport athletes these days, Max?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2444.715",
      "endTime": "2462.54",
      "body": "Yeah. Well, obviously, you want the best hockey player. But Right. If you can if you can kinda do it all if you're an athlete, I feel like it just kinda builds competition, like, within yourself to you can find different ways to get better at something, and I feel like for me that it's helped me get to where I am."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2463.0999",
      "endTime": "2468.6199",
      "body": "Yeah. Like, the hand eye from playing baseball and tennis. You think that's helped you, like, take pucks out of the air in hockey in hockey?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2468.925",
      "endTime": "2472.6052",
      "body": "I mean, I'd I'd think I'd say so. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2473.085",
      "endTime": "2496.7349",
      "body": "Yeah. So so I'm gonna ask you this, like so growing up, older brother, father, you you know, and at some point, your younger brother comes along the way. What was it like, you know, just from, like, having a former NHL or Stanley Cup winner as as a dad and obviously a competitive athlete in your mother as well? Was there, like, a lot of, like, parent coaching in your house? Was there a lot of pressure to, like, you know, always work on your craft?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2496.7349",
      "endTime": "2501.695",
      "body": "You know? Like, what was that, like, family, like, a parent, you know, child dynamic like for you?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2502.655",
      "endTime": "2523.0051",
      "body": "My dad was pretty open, like, kinda with what we wanted to do. Obviously, hockey is he knows the most about. Like, he he spends more time in hockey than anyone I've ever met. So I think it was easy for us to have that have that kind of bond with him over hockey. Like, we'd get home from school, and my dad was a lot gone a lot because he was coaching for the the bulldogs when I was little."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2523.0051",
      "endTime": "2541.0",
      "body": "But when he was home, we'd come downstairs after being at the outdoor rinks, and he'd just be watching hockey every single day. We'd wake up for breakfast before school. Like, NHL network was on. But it was never really like, I I guess that kinda feels forced on you, but it wasn't like never felt like that. It was kinda, like, fun, like, something you can talk about."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2541.0",
      "endTime": "2554.7349",
      "body": "And for him coaching us, he was never, like, really hard on us. Like, it was more of, like, are you working hard? Or, like, are you having, like Right. Like, if you want to get better, it's like, I can help you. Like, he he'd want us to ask him."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2554.7349",
      "endTime": "2565.61",
      "body": "It wasn't more, like, force, like, why would you do that instead of this? It was kinda more, like, if your feet aren't moving, then he'd be a little bit angry, but it came from a good place."
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    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2566.57",
      "endTime": "2573.61",
      "body": "Yeah. He wants you guys to work hard because in life, you gotta work hard, which whatever it is, hockey, baseball, being a lawyer. Right? Whatever it is. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2573.61",
      "endTime": "2573.93",
      "body": "You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2573.93",
      "endTime": "2582.805",
      "body": "Pretty much whatever you're gonna do. The biggest thing, like, that I remember is, like, if you're gonna do a job, do a good job is pretty much kind of the way we grew up."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2583.125",
      "endTime": "2585.685",
      "body": "Right. What about your mom? Was your I know your mom was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2585.685",
      "endTime": "2586.7249",
      "body": "a Yeah. Kind of a monster,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2586.7249",
      "endTime": "2588.2449",
      "body": "a monster, a mathlete. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2588.2449",
      "endTime": "2603.115",
      "body": "Yeah. She was the best. I mean, my dad was he wasn't around a ton when we were little just because coaching and stuff, but, like, our mom, she's probably put on more miles driving than any hockey bomb in Minnesota. Mean Super mom. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2603.2751",
      "endTime": "2614.475",
      "body": "Like, she had to drive not only me, but then both my other brothers. And during the summer, we're all three on different teams. Yeah. Maybe that but that could be six teams if you count baseball and hockey. Oh, Jesus."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2615.0798",
      "endTime": "2638.8052",
      "body": "Right. And the city's is about two and a half, three hours away, and, I mean, we could have other tournaments in other areas of the state or I mean, it is crazy. And it's even the last couple years, she's been driving a lot because me and my older brother were in here at UMD, and my little brother was in Michigan. And I she just likes spending time in the car, I think. But and, like, she she knows hockey too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2638.8052",
      "endTime": "2655.1052",
      "body": "Like, if there was something, like, that we wanted to ask when we were little, like, she'd be like, well, yeah. I mean, I can go there. But she and she likes showing off her basketball skills when we were younger Oh, yeah. Because she could beat us in that and golf and pretty much anything."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2655.585",
      "endTime": "2658.385",
      "body": "She was look she was softball and basketball in college. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2658.385",
      "endTime": "2664.945",
      "body": "She was softball, basketball, and my dad actually played baseball in college his junior, senior year. So way. Yeah. Okay. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2665.41",
      "endTime": "2668.0498",
      "body": "So you and your brothers have good genes, good athletic genes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2668.0498",
      "endTime": "2668.8499",
      "body": "We have good genes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2668.8499",
      "endTime": "2669.49",
      "body": "And I used to have"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2669.49",
      "endTime": "2675.09",
      "body": "something about, oh, you get your genes from your mom, so it's a good thing. My my dad my dad made a pretty good catch."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2675.65",
      "endTime": "2684.5251",
      "body": "That's true. Exactly. I wonder if that was by design. He's like, I gotta make hockey players. He's like, who can help me with that?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2684.5251",
      "endTime": "2703.55",
      "body": "Totally. That was like I don't know if you ever listen to Chickletts Max, but there was they were recently talking about Biz, and that he's still single, I think. And they were they were they were joking around about having, like, a combine for for for his future wife. My god."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2703.87",
      "endTime": "2704.4302",
      "body": "Have to go to all"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2704.4302",
      "endTime": "2707.3901",
      "body": "these women to do a combine to see who's most fit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2708.885",
      "endTime": "2710.405",
      "body": "Just need to be a big hiker."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2710.405",
      "endTime": "2715.365",
      "body": "Yeah. Right? Yeah. I mean, that's how it goes. So"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2715.605",
      "endTime": "2720.0051",
      "body": "Yeah. Listen. Yes. And you probably wind up doing the same thing when that time comes, Max."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2720.405",
      "endTime": "2744.6748",
      "body": "But but let me ask this. Like, so, like, at a young age, like, when did you I got well, I got, like, kinda two questions. I'll finish my first question, then I'll hopefully remember to go back to my other one. But it was like, when when about when did you realize that, like, you were that you were gonna be able to take hockey to, like, like, higher levels? Like, were you pretty aware, like, when or, like, maybe you weren't when you were 14, the best kid on the team."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2744.6748",
      "endTime": "2753.61",
      "body": "May maybe it wasn't until you were a little bit older. Like, what was that kinda like for you? When did you kinda come into your own, and when did you really start, like, ramping up your hockey training?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2754.57",
      "endTime": "2773.345",
      "body": "I think for me, like, obviously, like, looking up to, like, the bulldogs and, like, my dad and people that he knew, like, I've always like, I'm still in that situation. Like, things happen so fast. Like, it's unbelievable. Like, I don't know if you guys saw, but, like, the brick tournament, like, when Yeah. When the little kids in Minnesota team won yesterday."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2773.345",
      "endTime": "2788.65",
      "body": "So I was pretty dang excited about that. But Yeah. So that's, like, the ten year that's a ten year old tournament when so my brother didn't make that team for his o four year. They said he was too small or something, but I made that team, and that was, like, the biggest thing. Like, I was so excited."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2790.3298",
      "endTime": "2811.525",
      "body": "And so that's probably, like, when I first was, like, in my age group, like, I can compete. We got second place in the tournament, actually. So that was pretty exciting. Sure. But I'd say from about 10 years old, in my age group, I've kinda been good, but I've always kinda looked up to my older brother because in Minnesota, like, he kinda came first through the ranks, and he was kinda like he won, like, play state player of the year."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2811.525",
      "endTime": "2837.765",
      "body": "So I was always just kinda trying to be as good as he was, and that's kinda the same with my little brother. He's kinda done the same thing for both of us. But I think once you kinda have, like, an idea of someone around you doing good, like, you can compete with them, and that's kinda for me. Like, I kinda try and keep it a little bit in in that way. Like, when you're competing with someone, you kinda don't look at, like, how good you are compared to everyone else."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2837.765",
      "endTime": "2848.9502",
      "body": "It's kinda like you're competing with the guys that are around you, and I've kind of always had the opportunity to play with some pretty dang good players. So Mhmm. I think that's kinda helped me mostly with where where I am today."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2849.43",
      "endTime": "2856.835",
      "body": "Yeah. Sounds like the three of you have kind of, you know, all pushed each other and kinda risen together, which is pretty Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2856.835",
      "endTime": "2879.45",
      "body": "Cool thing too in Hermantown is, like, all the pros that are from, like, the area. Like, there's, like, four NHLers that have been from Hermantown where I grew up. And when we were younger, they'd always kinda let us like, Blake Bjorn, he watched in Hockeyland. They'd always kinda let us as younger players kinda come out and skate with them or watch them or do whatever, and that's kinda been an inspiration for us too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2880.01",
      "endTime": "2889.655",
      "body": "Yeah. That's awesome. So I have a kind of a crazy question. I'm gonna go off on a little sidebar so I don't forget it. So your dad is from Cloquet, Minnesota."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2889.655",
      "endTime": "2898.215",
      "body": "Correct? Yep. Okay. So I don't know if you're surprised that I know that. But so so because because I would have never heard of Cloquet in my life."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2898.375",
      "endTime": "2913.16",
      "body": "But we had, Sadie Lundquist, who's also from Cloquet on the podcast episode 30 something. I forgot what it was. But she went to Bemidji. But the question I have for you is, do you guys go back to Cloquet at all where your dad's from?"
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    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2913.5752",
      "endTime": "2928.77",
      "body": "Yeah. My grandma still lives there. She actually has a farm out there. But, yeah, we played, like, tournaments growing up in Cloquet and going to my grandma's for holidays and stuff. She's got she's got horses and stuff, so sometimes we ride them, like but she's she's a big time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2928.77",
      "endTime": "2936.61",
      "body": "She likes the horses. But my dad's always talking about how, like, stupid it is. We're in Hermantown. He's like, Kolke is the best. I was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2936.61",
      "endTime": "2937.97",
      "body": "like, no. They're not."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2939.09",
      "endTime": "2948.7148",
      "body": "Because when we were growing up, Hermantown was bad, and Cloquet was, like, really good. So he's Oh my god. He takes credit for making Hermantown good just for moving"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2948.7148",
      "endTime": "2949.6748",
      "body": "that scene."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2949.6748",
      "endTime": "2952.155",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I believe that. So okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2952.155",
      "endTime": "2963.5503",
      "body": "So my question my next question for you is, so Sadie Lundquist's grandparents started Gordie's Hi Hat. Her grandfather is Gordie. I'm assuming you've eaten there, and what is your go to meal there?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2963.7102",
      "endTime": "2970.27",
      "body": "That's the best burger. I I just I just keep it simple, the double burger, strawberry shake, and fries."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2970.695",
      "endTime": "2973.815",
      "body": "Dude, I hear the strawberry shake is where it's at, by the way."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2973.815",
      "endTime": "2975.175",
      "body": "Oh, yeah. So good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2976.055",
      "endTime": "2976.855",
      "body": "That's so funny."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2976.855",
      "endTime": "2977.335",
      "body": "That is"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2977.335",
      "endTime": "2978.055",
      "body": "so funny."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2978.055",
      "endTime": "2981.495",
      "body": "I'm gonna pass that along to Sadie that she likes that you that you like the place."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2981.575",
      "endTime": "2982.135",
      "body": "Yeah. It's awesome."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2982.135",
      "endTime": "2986.43",
      "body": "We need to go out there. She said we we were on the phone with her when we did an interview with her."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2986.43",
      "endTime": "2987.71",
      "body": "Only open in the summer."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2987.95",
      "endTime": "2988.43",
      "body": "Yes. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2988.43",
      "endTime": "2997.31",
      "body": "Only open in the summer. Right? But she said she said not to come up necessarily for Gordy's hi hat, but we should if we haven't been out to Minnesota before, that we need to go for the high school state tournament."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "2997.31",
      "endTime": "2998.51",
      "body": "Oh, she did say that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "2998.51",
      "endTime": "2999.23",
      "body": "She did. For sure."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "2999.605",
      "endTime": "3010.8052",
      "body": "Yeah. That's the coolest thing there is, really. I mean, this high school level, like, it's treated like the NHL, so Yeah. It's kinda that was my dream growing up. I mean, it was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3010.885",
      "endTime": "3012.165",
      "body": "The high school to play high school hockey on the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3012.325",
      "endTime": "3016.47",
      "body": "play high school. Yeah. Yeah. That's nuts. It's not like that in the Northeast by us."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3016.47",
      "endTime": "3017.4302",
      "body": "Yeah. It's crazy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3017.83",
      "endTime": "3037.745",
      "body": "No. Yeah. It's definitely different. But what was so as far as, like, being like, living in Hermantown and growing up and playing for Hermantown and, like, you know, in terms of, like, you know, ending up there for, like, high school, Like, said that you had you were able to to play with some unbelievable players. Oh, you're his thing's dying."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3038.145",
      "endTime": "3058.465",
      "body": "You said you were able to play with some unbelievable players. Like, over the like, so were you with those same kids from, like, the year younger ages, like, in youth hockey all the way up through high school? Yeah. And that was pretty that's pretty much how it is for for all the the high school teams that are"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3058.465",
      "endTime": "3076.1602",
      "body": "in Exactly. Other than pretty much the private schools where they get kids from kinda, like, the trickle down schools in the cities. Yep. But, I mean, in Hermantown, like, myself, Ty Hanson, Cade Cohansky, he'll be a freshman at UMD next year. He was in their grade too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3076.24",
      "endTime": "3089.275",
      "body": "And then my brother, we were all on the same peewee team. We got we got second in the state tournament along with, I mean, Dallas View. He'll he's playing in the USHL still. Dan Callaway was our goalie in high school. He"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3089.515",
      "endTime": "3089.915",
      "body": "Not real."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3089.915",
      "endTime": "3101.2903",
      "body": "He just committed to Long Island. Drew Nelson played in the USHL last year. Yeah. I mean, I'm probably I'm probably forgetting a couple guys. But That's like I mean, we have a couple guys playing division three now."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3101.61",
      "endTime": "3104.8901",
      "body": "Yeah. I mean, it's it's pretty crazy for one two age groups."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3105.1301",
      "endTime": "3129.1301",
      "body": "So let let me ask you this. Like, what's what's your view? Or maybe you could share your personal view or what it was like maybe, like, for, like, Minnesota folks at large. Like, when you either end up playing against some teams like out of state, some, like, know, legit triple a teams. Like, was is your view of, like, you know, triple a hockey outside of, like, Minnesota, like, competitive compared to what you would play in, like, your regular season?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3129.37",
      "endTime": "3135.69",
      "body": "Or, like like, kinda, like, what's what's a what's someone from Minnesota? What's their take on club hockey in the rest of the country?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3136.765",
      "endTime": "3153.2603",
      "body": "I mean, for me, like, I got to play Blade, so I got both ends of the spectrum. Yeah. And I'd say it's it's it's, like, the same. Because in Minnesota, like, sports, pewies, and banhams, it's two age groups. It's the I'd say seventh grade class and sixth grade class are together."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3153.9001",
      "endTime": "3168.855",
      "body": "There's all the pretty much all the way up from squirts. So you're getting, like, the best younger kids and, like, the best kids from the grade older, so you're pretty much always pushing yourself in that way. Mhmm. Honestly, like, when I would play Blades, we kinda had a super team. Like, we were really good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3168.855",
      "endTime": "3178.36",
      "body": "We pre we pretty much went two years. We lost, like, one game, and it was to, like, an older age group. Right. So we're we're ridiculous. So pretty much it was it was easier."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3178.92",
      "endTime": "3202.8552",
      "body": "It was easier to go play with the o six age group, I would say, in AAA. But, yeah, I I mean, it was it kinda has the best of all of it. It's kinda like college from junior, I guess, a little bit. Like, so there's a lot of skill, like, really good junior, but in college, like, you got the kid, like, the second year Bantam who played a year already, and now he's now he's ready to really be a rock star."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3203.0151",
      "endTime": "3204.375",
      "body": "Right. Right. Right. Interesting."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3204.99",
      "endTime": "3215.15",
      "body": "So it's funny you talk about Bantam. So I'm curious. How did how was your transition? So my son just finished his first year in Bantams. I'm just curious for our listeners to hear this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3215.15",
      "endTime": "3223.585",
      "body": "What was your experience transitioning to Bantam? Well, let me shift this first. First year Bantam I got a little You did? Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3223.585",
      "endTime": "3224.705",
      "body": "So first year Bantam,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3224.705",
      "endTime": "3226.465",
      "body": "you guys tiny. Okay. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3226.465",
      "endTime": "3227.745",
      "body": "Oh, yeah. So I was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3227.825",
      "endTime": "3228.7852",
      "body": "Like, how tiny? What's tiny?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3229.105",
      "endTime": "3253.115",
      "body": "Puberty. So my first year Banhams, I probably weighed, like, maybe a hundred pounds, not even probably. So my my sophomore year high school my sophomore year high school, the year that I made NTDP, I was five four, one twenty. So I I couldn't have so I was I was really small. My my adviser told me, like, you probably shouldn't go here."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3253.115",
      "endTime": "3270.83",
      "body": "Like, you're probably gonna be a bottom tier player and maybe go back to high school and dominate for a couple more years. But I was always really small. Like, I don't know if guys know Danny Nelson. He played I played with him at Worlds and World Junior. He plays at Notre Dame, but, actually, he's get to play with his two brothers next year."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3271.23",
      "endTime": "3297.1",
      "body": "He was always way bigger than me, and he was on that Maple Grove team, and that was the other team in the state that was, like, the best. And every time we would battle, like, I'd always get a couple maybe, but, like, he would just he he could light me up and score three. Like, it was like like, he was he was always big, and I was, like, really small. So I kinda grew late, like, my junior year is when I started to kinda grow. But, yeah, I think that's helped me a lot too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3298.3",
      "endTime": "3303.34",
      "body": "But I was scared. When I first went to Banhams, I was like, god. Like, I'm gonna get killed."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3304.335",
      "endTime": "3311.215",
      "body": "Really? Wait. Was it was it more because of your size at the time or just because, like yeah. It was because of your size. It wasn't like and it, like, Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3311.215",
      "endTime": "3313.135",
      "body": "Was Like, I was fast. To the physicality."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3313.135",
      "endTime": "3329.97",
      "body": "For the most part, I was faster than guys and, like Yeah. Like, I had a motor, but I was small. So, like, if I had my head up, like, yeah, I I was not good. But you kinda learn to play like that, and then you can play like that. You can learn how to protect pucks differently."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3329.97",
      "endTime": "3337.5552",
      "body": "And for me, I feel like it's a big advantage now because now I'm just as strong or stronger than a lot of guys. So Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3337.715",
      "endTime": "3356.19",
      "body": "Yeah. It's funny you say that because we've we've had a lot of college coaches on, and we talk about the bannum birth year when you have some kids that are huge and some kids that haven't started in puberty yet, right? And the college coaches say they like the smaller guy because the smaller guy has to figure out how to play with the big guys. Yeah. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3356.19",
      "endTime": "3362.185",
      "body": "Big guys, for the most part, have always been big, Right? So they throw their body weight around, and they look good because they're big. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3362.185",
      "endTime": "3362.5051",
      "body": "You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3362.5051",
      "endTime": "3370.745",
      "body": "But when everybody evens out, at that time, whenever they even out, the big guys really kind of have a hard time adjusting because they haven't Right? Had"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3372.0251",
      "endTime": "3376.96",
      "body": "A lot of times, some guys do just because, like, they're at the point where, like, I can't let this guy be better than me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3376.96",
      "endTime": "3377.8398",
      "body": "But Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3377.8398",
      "endTime": "3390.595",
      "body": "Like, what you're saying, like, even, like, Wyatt Collin this year, he was on my brother's NTDP team. He just went first round. Was really small too. He was very similar to the way I was where he grew late, and he's six two now. I mean, he's big now."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3390.595",
      "endTime": "3406.7102",
      "body": "But I remember they him and my brother room together the first year at the program, and when they try out Victor, my little brother, he was probably, like, two, three inches taller, and now Wyatt's, like, two, three inches taller than he was. And my little brother grew a couple three inches too, so it's kinda Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3408.31",
      "endTime": "3413.9902",
      "body": "Yeah. We talk about it all the time, Max. We talk about how everybody pops at a different age. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3413.9902",
      "endTime": "3414.1501",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3414.1501",
      "endTime": "3417.11",
      "body": "The late the late bloomer in this game is very real."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3417.1902",
      "endTime": "3423.635",
      "body": "Yeah. You know? And it's it's very yeah. It's it's like that's a true thing that not a lot of people think about sometimes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3423.875",
      "endTime": "3427.715",
      "body": "Right. And hockey parents get, like, anxiety over their kid not being big."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3427.9548",
      "endTime": "3446.9502",
      "body": "I think that's a big example of your your reason with, like, hockey, like, just hockey all the way up and not other sports is, like, if you're so, like, dedicated on your kid, he might not even wanna play in four years. Like, he might have wanted to try all those other things. You know? So I think that for me is, like, a pretty pretty good thing. Like, go have fun."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3446.9502",
      "endTime": "3453.315",
      "body": "If you're not having fun with it, whether it's baseball or anything, like, why would you even wanna do it? Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3453.315",
      "endTime": "3475.6448",
      "body": "Yeah. Well, that was something when we interviewed Sadie and just so one of the reasons why I think for me, like, I didn't start playing ice hockey until oh, I was, like, on rollerblades a little bit before, but, like, I don't know. Let's just say I was 12 when I actually was on my first, like, ice hockey team. And then I stopped playing before I even finished high school. Primarily, like, I was playing for a club team, but, like, I didn't have, like, any, like, like minded around me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3475.6448",
      "endTime": "3489.8",
      "body": "Like, no one else around me was playing ice hockey. And it was, like, really easy for me not to stay connected because, like, I was just playing for a club team that had kids from all over the place. No one that lived near me necessarily. You know? But when I, you know, have talked to folks from Minnesota, they're just saying, like, yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3489.8",
      "endTime": "3497.1602",
      "body": "I what do mean? I played with my friends my whole life. It was, like, amazing. And I just think that's such an advantage Yeah. That, like, a lot of people obviously see."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3497.1602",
      "endTime": "3508.935",
      "body": "But, like, in terms of keeping kids connected to sports, you know, especially being able to play with your friends in, like, hockey and baseball and football, whatever, it's like that's such a that's amazing."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3509.415",
      "endTime": "3541.195",
      "body": "It's awesome. And it's also I was just thinking about something. I guess hockey is kind of more of, a rich man's game is what I was thinking, especially in today. Like but I think it's a lot cheaper if you're in, like, a community in Minnesota where you get to play with all your buddies and, like, other people's parents can kinda help you because they know you and stuff like that instead of, like, you're kinda all alone and you're trying to make this team that lives forty minutes away or whatever. So I think that's pretty pretty cool about Minnesota too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3541.55",
      "endTime": "3558.5251",
      "body": "Yeah. You guys are a totally different animal. I mean, everybody in The United States wants to duplicate what you guys have out there. And, you know, I don't think you can, to be honest with you, you know, because parents are so committed to making it happen, you know? And you guys have rinks in every neighborhood, which most places don't."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3558.7651",
      "endTime": "3569.085",
      "body": "Know, I mean Yeah. I mean, the the min the Minnesota model is definitely the envy of the youth hockey world. Matter of fact, I know a dude who just sold his house in Connecticut and moved out there."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3570.57",
      "endTime": "3605.77",
      "body": "Yeah. And that's crazy too as part of like, I got obviously, we'll maybe get into the NTDP a little bit, but, like, when I got there, I kinda realized, like because there was maybe me and, like, two other guys that from Minnesota high school hockey. Couple of guys went to Shattuck and stuff, but you could you could tell the difference, like, big time because a lot of the kids on my team would go from one team to another team kinda just for themselves, like, pushing the putting their own kinda game ahead of it. And for me, I'm like, like, what's going on? Like, I've just been with the same guys all the time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3605.77",
      "endTime": "3632.54",
      "body": "Like, I know where I stand. So for me, it was kinda like, wow. Like, not that those people are selfish. It's just kind of the way hockey works other than in Minnesota where you're kinda just you're put where you're put, and you just play there. So for me, that was kind of an eye opening thing of it's not, like, necessarily bad, but I I just like it a lot better that you're not looking to where you can go next, where you can play next."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3632.7",
      "endTime": "3635.74",
      "body": "You're kinda just in the moment with your teammates. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3635.74",
      "endTime": "3679.275",
      "body": "So, like, in that example that you were giving, and that's interesting to think about, where there were so you would see kids from from other parts of the country, and part of what I'm hearing, correct me if I'm wrong, was that, like, their style of play was perhaps a bit more selfishly because, you know, this is a kid that might have bounced around from team to team and always had to, like, prove his worth. But then but then also in terms of, like, you know, it's the the style of play, but then also from, like, a a personality standpoint, did you find, like, folks that were, like, you know, studs outside of Minnesota and, like, other parts of the country? Did, like, their did the personality wise, did you see, like, a lot of differences in those kids versus kids from home?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3680.01",
      "endTime": "3695.765",
      "body": "I think a lot of it's pretty similar. Just like I mean, you guys are in hockey. Like, the people in hockey are great. And I just went to men men's world this spring with, like, the NHL guys, and those guys are, like, some of the best guys you'll ever meet. Like, they were looking out for the young guys."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3695.765",
      "endTime": "3707.99",
      "body": "And so that was really cool and eye opening to see that. But, like, the guys on my team at NTDP are, like, brothers. Like, a bunch of really good guys. Obviously, like, super competitive, and a lot"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3707.99",
      "endTime": "3708.55",
      "body": "of them have a lot"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3708.55",
      "endTime": "3733.435",
      "body": "of ego just because, like, where they come from, they're the best player, and they wanna kinda be that at the next level. So you can kinda tell that, and you but you kinda gotta put that aside when you're there because you gotta expect it because it's just like a bunch of guys just sort of going there to butt heads, but, like, away from the rink. We're at the rink, like, all day, but, like, we were it's literally like a living joke. Like, you're just joking around. Like, guys are just spitting out words that are just, like, funny."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3733.435",
      "endTime": "3751.415",
      "body": "You know? It's and so that was it was a ton of fun to be there with that group of guys, but also to learn, like, like, a guy that plays in Wisconsin, and then he goes and plays for another triple a team in Wisconsin the next year. And then next thing you know, he goes to Shattuck. Like, three years, three different teams. And Yep."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3751.415",
      "endTime": "3782.465",
      "body": "And then no one like, we had a good group of Shattuck. Like, that age my age group of Shattuck was unreal. It had, like, Eiserman, Celebrini, Brody Siemer, like, like, some studs. And we had a bunch of the guys on our NTDP team, so they knew each other pretty well coming in. And so that's kinda like it it was kinda easy for those guys because they knew a lot of the guys, but, they kinda brought that kinda culture of, like, the best players competing for a spot, and that's kinda what we had."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3782.465",
      "endTime": "3783.5051",
      "body": "So it was pretty cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3784.145",
      "endTime": "3794.56",
      "body": "So I'm curious. Let's get into we touched on MTDP a little bit. So at what point in high school did somebody come up to you and be like, hey. Listen. Like, we want you to come to NTDP."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3794.56",
      "endTime": "3797.4402",
      "body": "When did you start getting recruited, and how'd that process go?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3798.08",
      "endTime": "3819.7102",
      "body": "So my I never even, like, thought about NTDP, honestly, when I was younger. Like, it was going into my sophomore year. Like, I kinda, like, heard some stuff about it just, like because my brother got invited to go play some games at the end of our his sophomore year and my freshman year when I was in Banhams. So I was like, man, like, those guys are sick. Like, that'd be so cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3820.67",
      "endTime": "3839.5752",
      "body": "So that's when I kinda started to heard about it, and then my buddy, Ty Hanson, tried out for the o five team. And so I kinda heard a little bit out from him and how hard it was, like, even at their tryout. He ended up not making it, which ended up pretty good for him. I mean, he went to Sioux City and was the captain there after high school. But Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3840.695",
      "endTime": "3859.98",
      "body": "Yeah. So it was probably, like, halfway through the year, one of the NTDP scouts came in came to one of my games, and I didn't know about it until, like, after the game. He was sitting on my sitting on my grandpa up in the stands watching her high school game. And I was one of the we lost two games in my high school year. It was actually to Danny Nelson, like, we got to earlier."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3860.685",
      "endTime": "3868.445",
      "body": "And that was one of the games we lost. So I was like I got in the car after Matt about we lost, and then I heard he was there. And I was like, god. Are we"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "3868.605",
      "endTime": "3869.0051",
      "body": "Oh, boy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3869.0051",
      "endTime": "3871.965",
      "body": "Are we serious right now?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3872.445",
      "endTime": "3882.5",
      "body": "Just punching the seat. I didn't think losing very well that at that time either. We went to a we went to a bulldog game after that game. It was, an afternoon game. Absolutely."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3882.66",
      "endTime": "3884.98",
      "body": "Watched UMD after, and I was just in a"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3884.98",
      "endTime": "3887.7",
      "body": "bad spot the whole game just sitting there, like, walking."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3888.5",
      "endTime": "3920.97",
      "body": "So I kinda thought about it, but then I kinda put it out. Like, and then towards the state tournament time, they sent out the invite to camp, and I was on there. And I was kinda, like, excited to see the other guys that were kind of in that invite. But when I got to camp, like, I was so nervous because just, like, the way that Ty had talked about it, the tryout was, like, insane. Like, I had we did, like, these crazy I don't even know if they can do them anymore because of safe sport have gotten, like, MTD people in trouble, which I think is I think is pathetic because that's, like, the best times I've ever had."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3921.365",
      "endTime": "3922.005",
      "body": "Like, we were"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3922.005",
      "endTime": "3947.3901",
      "body": "we were working so hard my u seventeen year and in the spring. But, anyways, at tryout, I just tried to, like, be buddy buddy with everyone. I'm pretty talkative, so it was kinda fun. But I'll apparently, like, throughout the tryout, like, guys are getting asked in the middle of it, like, to come play there next year. So, like, like, 75 of the roster was made, like, before, like, the last day of the tryout."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3947.775",
      "endTime": "3959.855",
      "body": "And so you guys are keeping it quiet. I don't really hear anything. Like, I'm just like, man. Like, I was ready to go back home, and, like, I was like, I'm not I don't know if I'm good enough. I watched the o 14 practice one of the days, and they were unbelievable."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3960.25",
      "endTime": "3976.8752",
      "body": "Like, Layne Hudson, Logan Cooley, Cutter Gauthier, and they're playing, like like, the three cones drill where you skate through the cones. And I'm like, this is ridiculous. I'll never be close to this level. But, actually, I was like I was like, this is our the most crazy thing I've ever seen."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "3977.0352",
      "endTime": "3977.675",
      "body": "Wow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3977.995",
      "endTime": "3994.3003",
      "body": "I'm just sitting in the corner, like, five foot four, like, hundred twenty soaking wet. Yeah. And I'm like, there's just no way. I'm going back home. So then the last scrimmage we had, I it was probably my best scrimmage."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "3994.54",
      "endTime": "4010.945",
      "body": "I felt good, but I was kind of accepted. Like, I probably wasn't gonna make it. And then, like, I'm getting undressed in the locker room, and one of the guys comes out. I was like, they wanna see you, like, up top. And so I went up there, and the coach was Adam Nightingale."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4010.945",
      "endTime": "4022.5698",
      "body": "He's at Michigan State now. He ended up not coaching us, but he was the coach of the o fours. So he was kinda like he's like, Pon, are you in? I was like, what are you what are you talking about? Like, he's like, are you in?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4022.5698",
      "endTime": "4023.69",
      "body": "I was like, I mean, I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4023.69",
      "endTime": "4026.25",
      "body": "I don't know. I gotta talk to my mom and dad and stuff."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4027.69",
      "endTime": "4042.6553",
      "body": "But then they they, like, offered me in the office, like, five minutes later, and I was like, I wanna do it. Like, this just seems, like, right up my alley, like, pushing myself. My agent actually told me. He was like, yeah. Like, I don't know, like, if you're ready to do this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4043.695",
      "endTime": "4052.6",
      "body": "But I was like, screw it. Like, I I've always kind of been that wanting to push myself. And then I had that one up on my brother a little bit too because he didn't make it, so that was kinda nice."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4052.6",
      "endTime": "4053.1602",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4053.24",
      "endTime": "4074.885",
      "body": "Right. But my brother was actually playing for the Chicago steel at the at the time. So I kinda told him I wanted to go to NTDP, but on my walk out, like, after I got asked, I saw the Chicago Steel general manager, and he offered me a tender with Chicago. So I'm like, do I go play with my brother, or do I take my own path here?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4075.2852",
      "endTime": "4076.165",
      "body": "Oh my god."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4076.165",
      "endTime": "4098.9546",
      "body": "So I had to think about that and makes like, see what what my dad thought was the best option, obviously, and ended up wanting to go to the program. But the hardest call I made after making it was with my grandpa because he was high school hockey coach. Like, he didn't coach me, but he was always a big believer in, like, stay in high school. Like, go to juniors when you're done."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4099.035",
      "endTime": "4099.755",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4099.755",
      "endTime": "4112.13",
      "body": "So I I call him, and I'm like, grandpa, like, I think I'm gonna do this. Like and he was like, what do you mean? Like, why why would you why would you do that? Right. Because he didn't really know anything about the program."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4112.21",
      "endTime": "4120.245",
      "body": "Yeah. Sure. So I kinda got a little teary out like, grandpa, like, this is, like, what I gotta do. Yeah. I wanna this is what I wanna do."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4120.245",
      "endTime": "4128.965",
      "body": "He's like, no one's pressuring you into this or anything. And I was like, no. I think this is best for me. And to now he's like, holy crap. Like, that's freaking sick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4129.205",
      "endTime": "4131.98",
      "body": "Yeah. Because he came to watch some games, and he's like, why are"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4131.98",
      "endTime": "4133.02",
      "body": "these people Holy so shit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4133.02",
      "endTime": "4133.3403",
      "body": "He knows."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4133.3403",
      "endTime": "4134.54",
      "body": "They're so skilled."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4137.02",
      "endTime": "4141.42",
      "body": "Yeah. Now And Minnesota hockey's pretty legit. It's hard Yeah. To"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4141.74",
      "endTime": "4157.1147",
      "body": "It's really good. We we had a tournament in at our USA Hockey rink, and him and my grandma came and watched. My u 18 year was first time coming on Kennewatch. So he's like, how old are these guys? Are you guys seniors and juniors in high school?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4157.63",
      "endTime": "4158.11",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4158.11",
      "endTime": "4167.55",
      "body": "And it was so that's kinda cool, like, to have him be a part of kinda just see another path to take. But, yeah, that's kinda my program story a little bit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4167.79",
      "endTime": "4169.3096",
      "body": "Yeah. It's so cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4169.55",
      "endTime": "4204.5547",
      "body": "So so that but that's wild though that you were asked, you know, by the Chicago Steel coach, and you had a way between playing with your brother or going on your own path. And that was so what was so that's that was so you said that was a difficult decision, understandably so, I would think. But in terms of, like, what you felt n t the the the program could offer you that, like, you couldn't get elsewhere or, like, if you could answer that a little bit. And then also, if the concern of it not going if it was the wrong move, like, what what was the concern? The concern would have been that, like, you were stuck."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4204.5547",
      "endTime": "4207.5947",
      "body": "Like, well, like, what yeah. Like, if you could just kinda talk that out a little bit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4207.835",
      "endTime": "4229.175",
      "body": "Go there, you're away from home. You could hate it. Like, like, if you go there, like, there's some guys go there and maybe don't put everything into hockey. Like, they're good players, but, like, you're at the rink. Like, for me, like, I I I kinda like being at the rink, but, I was at the rink from, like, 07:45 to, like, 05:00 at night, like, both years."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4229.415",
      "endTime": "4229.815",
      "body": "Wow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4229.815",
      "endTime": "4254.635",
      "body": "So it's like a lot like, you could get out of the rink at, like, two, but me and, like, a couple other guys like to kinda just marinate and whether shoot pox or just chitchat in the locker room, shower. But for me, like, I never really had a worry. Like, I I've always wanted to, like, push myself. Like, you're in the gym for two hours, and you're on the ice for two and a half hours, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then you play on Friday, Saturday."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4254.795",
      "endTime": "4255.355",
      "body": "Like Wow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4255.355",
      "endTime": "4268.35",
      "body": "I'm not gonna lie. Like, like, I'd get back to my billet house. My youth 17 is especially challenging because they're like, you gotta put on weight. Like, we gotta get you stronger. So, like, work so hard, and then I get home, and I just pound food."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4268.5103",
      "endTime": "4283.325",
      "body": "Like, just eat so much food. So, like, if you if I didn't love it, like, it'd be it'd been brutal because just, like, you're working so hard. Like, there's days I'd wake up, and I'd be like, oh my god. Like, this is this is ridiculous. But then I get there, and I'd see the guys, and we're joking around."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4283.325",
      "endTime": "4291.965",
      "body": "And, like, you have fun doing it. Like, my first year in practice, like, I got dominated. Like, Prodi Ziemer plays on the Gophers. Like, he would just work me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4292.205",
      "endTime": "4292.685",
      "body": "Really?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4293.41",
      "endTime": "4304.69",
      "body": "Like, it was it was but it was fun. Like, you kinda get to go through your first junior experience with the same group of guys. Like, none of them have done it before either. Nice. You're away from home."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4304.93",
      "endTime": "4334.53",
      "body": "So it's kinda cool to share something like that with guys. But I guess, like, what you said, like, you maybe go to the program thinking, like, you're gonna be a first, second line guy, and you end up being kind of a role player even though maybe you go somewhere else and you could be on the first line. I think that's kind of a lot of people's biggest concerns. But for me, I think, like, like, off of our team, especially, like, we had Brendan McBorrow just won a national championship with Denver Yeah. And Christian Epperson too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4334.53",
      "endTime": "4340.515",
      "body": "Christian Epperson got cut off our team. He was, like, Denver's, like, third leading scorer this year as a freshman."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4340.515",
      "endTime": "4341.315",
      "body": "Right. That's wild."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4341.315",
      "endTime": "4356.27",
      "body": "So, I mean, like, I think that you you go there, you get better. Like, you it doesn't really matter where you end up. Charlie Serrato just signed a contract. He got sent down from his o five team. I mean, Austin Burnovic had, like, like, 20 something goals last year in college hockey."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4356.27",
      "endTime": "4379.44",
      "body": "So I think it's pretty much what you get out of it is what you put into it. And so for me, I'd say, like, if you wanna go there I don't know. Like, now Brian Gallivan, he was our strength coach there, and he works for Buffalo now. So he's not there. But for me, like, he's instilled a lot of my habits to this day of whether being in the gym or trying to eat right and all that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4379.44",
      "endTime": "4387.6797",
      "body": "Like, we worked so hard. Like, he was just, like, like, one of the greatest guys, but also, like, knows how to, like, get under your skin and, like, stuff like that. So it was pretty"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4388.0",
      "endTime": "4389.1997",
      "body": "pushy a little bit. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4389.1997",
      "endTime": "4402.655",
      "body": "Yeah. Pushy outside of I know how hard I can work now because of Right. Like, my u seventeen year that I I that's the hardest I've ever worked. So now it's not every day is easy, but I know how hard I can push myself, kind of."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4402.655",
      "endTime": "4404.735",
      "body": "Yeah. Because you've been there already. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4404.735",
      "endTime": "4405.695",
      "body": "Yeah. Exactly."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4405.695",
      "endTime": "4419.05",
      "body": "Yeah. And those all right, so I'm curious. So you were like five a five four, one twenty. What did you do to put on weight? Because you're probably burning 6,000 calories a day, you know, two hours in the gym, two and a half on the ice."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4419.295",
      "endTime": "4423.3745",
      "body": "What did you do? Like peanut butter and jellies at midnight? Like, how'd you put on So"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4424.255",
      "endTime": "4438.42",
      "body": "I would pretty much, like, we'd be in the gym, so I burn those calories, but I'm ripping all my muscles. So that's when you really for me, I don't like to waste that. That's kinda what he said. Like, you gotta eat. He told me to eat until I had to throw up."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4438.42",
      "endTime": "4449.3247",
      "body": "And then after I get to that point he said after I get to that point That's awesome. Sit down for a little bit and then make yourself a, like, a smoothie. Just make protein smoothie."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4449.3247",
      "endTime": "4450.045",
      "body": "Protein. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4450.045",
      "endTime": "4461.39",
      "body": "So after after I would and my billets would make so much food. And then after I would do that, I would have to drink a smoothie. And it was just like I I'd be sitting on the couch just like this. Like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4461.79",
      "endTime": "4463.55",
      "body": "Yeah. Like, I can't eat anymore."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4464.75",
      "endTime": "4485.405",
      "body": "And then so at the beginning, I I gained some weight, but then I kinda plateaued a little bit my first year. But then I I actually, like, got hurt, so I cut my knee open with a skate, I couldn't really do much. I could just do, like, upper body and stuff and my other leg. So that that's I gained, like, 15 pounds because I was just doing, like, arm farms like crazy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4485.8853",
      "endTime": "4488.125",
      "body": "You're the biggest biceps in hockey."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4488.7603",
      "endTime": "4496.44",
      "body": "And that's like another thing, like, when you get hurt, like, I've kinda used those times as times that you get better at other things, like, get stronger."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4496.44",
      "endTime": "4497.0",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4497.0",
      "endTime": "4501.96",
      "body": "So it might be a bad thing at a time, but, like, for me, it it it's helped me a lot to where I am now."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4502.755",
      "endTime": "4514.515",
      "body": "So so we you mentioned your billet house twice, so I have to ask you. We ask everybody, what is your what is your best billet story for when you were billeting somewhere?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4518.92",
      "endTime": "4535.065",
      "body": "I'd say I I'd say one funny one. I'll say a good one. Like, one thing, they made, like, the best food. Like, the the made the best food. Like, I remember my mom said somehow how they weren't making me enough early, but, like because I must have said something like they don't eat a lot or something."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4535.065",
      "endTime": "4557.92",
      "body": "And they she told my bill mom that I, like, wasn't eating enough, but I was always eating enough. So then, like, the next day, like, they made, like, double what they were making before. And I'm like, like, what is going on here? And, like, they the salmon that they make, like, I try to use that recipe now, so was so good. But one funny story is they didn't really know hockey that well when I first got there."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4558.64",
      "endTime": "4560.9604",
      "body": "They know more now just kinda being around me and stuff."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4560.9604",
      "endTime": "4561.68",
      "body": "But Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4562.0",
      "endTime": "4579.96",
      "body": "I was their first billet, and, like, one of the game days, like, I'm playing at 07:00, and, like, they come up to my room knock on door, like, we're gonna go to a movie. Like, you wanna come watch a movie with us? And it was like it was like 04:00. Like, I'm like, no. I gotta go to the ring right now."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4581.08",
      "endTime": "4591.24",
      "body": "Gotta warm up for my game. Movie ends at, like, 07:15, and I'm running late to my game, and I'm like, no. Thanks for That the was pretty funny."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4591.24",
      "endTime": "4596.595",
      "body": "Yeah. Right. That's funny. So now they're versed in hockey after you, Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4596.595",
      "endTime": "4603.075",
      "body": "Yeah. Like, my brother's big into hockey. He can name all the NHLers. Dumbass. It's kinda cool to see that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4603.075",
      "endTime": "4604.2",
      "body": "Yeah. Nice."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4604.2",
      "endTime": "4632.79",
      "body": "Let let me ask you. In in terms of the in terms of just, like, you know, being away and and building, and and that must have been a tough transition. And we've talked to people who have also said that, like, gen like, for a lot of people that that move away from home is probably the hardest thing. The first move away from home is, like, the hardest thing that they've had to go through. Like, in terms of you your your progression through hockey, like, what were some of the tougher moments that you that you've had?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4632.79",
      "endTime": "4637.99",
      "body": "What was was moving away difficult? Like, you mentioned cutting your leg. Was, like is there an injury?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4637.99",
      "endTime": "4638.79",
      "body": "Like Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4638.95",
      "endTime": "4639.83",
      "body": "Yeah. What were some of"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4639.83",
      "endTime": "4640.5503",
      "body": "these injuries?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4640.5503",
      "endTime": "4641.43",
      "body": "Yeah. Go ahead."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4641.43",
      "endTime": "4657.735",
      "body": "Injuries are huge. I mean, I've had this actually, last year was the first year that I I haven't got injured, like, in the regular season. I got hurt at the World Juniors this year, actually. I got hurt in the third game. I got a concussion, so I didn't get to finish the tournament."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4658.0547",
      "endTime": "4669.73",
      "body": "That sucked. Like, that was, like Yeah. That's gotta be one of the bottom ones. But, like, pretty much some of the injuries, like the knee one, like, I was mad, but, like, it helped me. Like, I look back, and I'm like, that helped me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4669.89",
      "endTime": "4687.4746",
      "body": "Right. I broke my wrist my freshman year first game, my first college game. Aye. And that was that's probably the the lowest I've been. Like, I like, I wanna make the world junior team, but I and our team lost, like, eight out of 10 games."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4687.4746",
      "endTime": "4696.52",
      "body": "The two wins were against, like, Stonehill. So I'm just sitting in the stands. Like, a lot of people near you know me. And Right. I'm walking down to the locker room."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4696.52",
      "endTime": "4711.1445",
      "body": "People are like, what's going on? Like, when are you guys gonna win? Like, when are you back? And so and then I'm skating by myself, with a power coach, and then the guys would be working out while I was on the ice. And I get back to the locker room, and all the guys are going onto the ice."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4711.7847",
      "endTime": "4724.8496",
      "body": "And then I'm in the gym by myself. So Right. That's probably the toughest times I've had. Just like when you're not with your team, when you're not with your group, you're just pretty much just like like, why am I even doing this? Like, why am I take time I skate up?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4726.21",
      "endTime": "4741.905",
      "body": "But I think that's kinda, like, what makes you appreciate it more, like, when you are having those good times. You're like, I don't I really don't wanna be there. You're like, you push yourself to be back. And I came back, and I actually wore a I wore a cast for my first four games back before Christmas."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4741.985",
      "endTime": "4742.3853",
      "body": "Oh, wow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4743.5303",
      "endTime": "4770.75",
      "body": "I played my first two, and I was that's the most, like, excited I've been or, like, pissed off I've been going into, like, a weekend, and I was, like, just flying. I was just like, I wanna kill somebody out here. And then to make it even worse, the world junior trial list came out, like, that day after my first weekend was back, and I was like, I'm not on here. Like, I'm coming in that I thought I was gonna be, like, on this team. I had a great summer camp."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4772.0303",
      "endTime": "4784.935",
      "body": "So now I'm on the phone with my dad. I'm like, how can this happen? Like, I was so mad. And then we went to ASU the next went to ASU the next weekend, and I was, like, really good, like, again. I was playing so mad."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4784.935",
      "endTime": "4799.64",
      "body": "I saw the brace on. Like, I couldn't stick handle very well, but I was just, like, I was just, alright. I was gonna skate around and move my feet and see what happens. I had another really good weekend. Go back home, and I got a phone call from John Van Biesburg."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4799.64",
      "endTime": "4804.44",
      "body": "He's like, we're gonna make it one one extra player at camp. And then I'm like, so this is all worth it. Like,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4804.44",
      "endTime": "4805.48",
      "body": "this is sick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4805.48",
      "endTime": "4815.595",
      "body": "And then I Nice. Like, a day before we go to the camp, I get that call, go there. Like, they booked this flight. I missed my missed the flight. It got canceled, so I had to drive to the city."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4816.075",
      "endTime": "4833.05",
      "body": "Relax from there. Like, I missed, like, the first day of meetings and everything. Shit. Two week two weeks later, we won the gold medal. So that was like, you go from, like, your deepest lows, and then, like, all of sudden, God rewards you a little bit with like, you win an you win a gold medal with USA."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4833.05",
      "endTime": "4836.09",
      "body": "So it's crazy how stuff happens so fast."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4836.17",
      "endTime": "4846.105",
      "body": "That's unbelievable. Let me Yeah. Let me ask you this one. Like, obviously, winning Hobey Baker, massive achievement. I mean, like, you you've no shortage of success."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4846.105",
      "endTime": "4872.3647",
      "body": "Like, as you continue to, like, you know, advance in your career, what's it like, I guess, becoming, like, you know, more of a household name, like, winning these kind of accolades? Like, is there anything in particular that you've had to do to kind of, like I don't know if block out that stuff is the right thing, but, like, is is there is it is there is it been difficult, like, with the additional attention that's come along with all this stuff in terms of your hockey training and staying focused on, like, you know, the endgame?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4872.605",
      "endTime": "4894.915",
      "body": "I think that's kind of the biggest thing with the group of guys I'm around at all the time. Like, obviously, I get a lot of talk and stuff more and more lately. Like, I'm going around going around town. Like, I was kinda a lot of people in my area knew me already, but, like, it's pretty cool to, like, do it with guys around me. Like, it makes it so much easier."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4894.915",
      "endTime": "4910.54",
      "body": "Like, I'll go to the rink, and I'll get chirped about something or, like I get it just makes it kinda easier. Like, you know, your skin, you're, like, more focused on, like, that day of, like, I don't wanna lose in this three on three scrimmage. Or, like, in the gym, like, I'm not gonna let that guy, like, lift more weight. Like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4910.8604",
      "endTime": "4911.18",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4911.18",
      "endTime": "4921.42",
      "body": "So for that for in that way, it makes it a lot easier being around guys that are really driven as well. Sure. So it doesn't really let you slack off or, like, just take a day off and stuff like that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4921.895",
      "endTime": "4923.255",
      "body": "Yeah. That makes sense."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4923.335",
      "endTime": "4928.375",
      "body": "Yeah. Wow. They they say you are a combination of the five people you are around the most. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4928.455",
      "endTime": "4928.695",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4928.695",
      "endTime": "4938.05",
      "body": "I mean, so if your five people are your two brothers and your mom and dad, and then insert fifth person here, I mean, that's not a bad five, Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4938.8496",
      "endTime": "4941.73",
      "body": "It's pretty it's been pretty special. So yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4941.73",
      "endTime": "4953.185",
      "body": "It's sick, dude. It's insane. So you're obviously drafted by the Red Wings. So, I mean, you I know you've been to camp with the Red Wings. What was that experience like?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4953.265",
      "endTime": "4953.665",
      "body": "Yeah. I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4953.665",
      "endTime": "4956.625",
      "body": "mean, what are your thoughts moving forward? I'm just curious to hear."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4956.9453",
      "endTime": "4961.5054",
      "body": "Yeah. I don't know if you guys saw, but my little brother just got drafted too to Detroit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4962.03",
      "endTime": "4964.1094",
      "body": "Oh, I didn't know that. No shit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4964.19",
      "endTime": "4967.2295",
      "body": "Exact same exact pick. No way."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4967.3896",
      "endTime": "4968.67",
      "body": "47 or something like that? Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4968.67",
      "endTime": "4970.4297",
      "body": "Forty seventh? Overall. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "4970.59",
      "endTime": "4972.03",
      "body": "Right. That's insane."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4972.9097",
      "endTime": "4976.51",
      "body": "So I get a text, like, right before it. Like, they text me, like, you're gonna like this one."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4976.975",
      "endTime": "4978.655",
      "body": "Oh, that's a slushy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4978.655",
      "endTime": "4982.175",
      "body": "All of a sudden, he gets picked, so that was that was pretty dang"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4982.175",
      "endTime": "4985.455",
      "body": "cool. You and Victor are the same on the KHL team."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4985.455",
      "endTime": "4990.815",
      "body": "Yeah. Just went to camp with my brother. Like, we were roommates. Like, it just had an NHL camp. Like, no big deal."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4990.815",
      "endTime": "4994.12",
      "body": "But but I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4994.12",
      "endTime": "4996.1997",
      "body": "was that's pretty cool. So that's"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4996.1997",
      "endTime": "4997.8",
      "body": "that's kinda what's going on right now."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "4997.8",
      "endTime": "4999.56",
      "body": "I get to play get to play with"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "4999.56",
      "endTime": "5010.005",
      "body": "them next year, then hopefully, make couple years down the road, like, we're roommates playing in the national. It would be the dream. I mean, it just sounds absurd, but it could probably possibly happen."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5010.8047",
      "endTime": "5018.7246",
      "body": "Is it? It's wild. So, like, having like, so having your brothers wait. Let me back up and just ask this for have you the three of you played on the same team before?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5018.94",
      "endTime": "5019.7397",
      "body": "Never."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5019.82",
      "endTime": "5021.58",
      "body": "Never. So this is gonna be a first."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5021.58",
      "endTime": "5026.06",
      "body": "I've never even played with my younger brother. I played with my older brother Right. Every other year on the way up."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5026.06",
      "endTime": "5027.02",
      "body": "But Yep. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5027.02",
      "endTime": "5044.4346",
      "body": "He's kinda just by the short end of the stick just watching us. And, like, people around here don't even really know him. Like, because he he my dad got a assistant coaching job in Chicago right when he was getting into high school. So and that's kinda when he took his game to, like, another level. He's always been good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5044.835",
      "endTime": "5062.595",
      "body": "Yeah. But he kinda like like you said about the other interests, like, he really liked to, like, mountain bike when we were younger. Like, he was sick at mountain biking and stuff like that. But he's always good at hockey as well. And then he went to Chicago, and he was around, like, Patrick Kane, and that's always been his favorite player all the way up too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5062.595",
      "endTime": "5070.7554",
      "body": "Yeah. And he was, like, super good doing like, he was watching the Blackhawk games with Patrick Kane senior, like, Patrick Kane's dad."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5070.7554",
      "endTime": "5071.395",
      "body": "No way."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5071.395",
      "endTime": "5079.24",
      "body": "So he's just sitting there, like, my mom would be at the game, and he'd be like, alright. See you. And he just, like, go sit with mister Cain. And it's like my mom's"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5079.24",
      "endTime": "5080.7603",
      "body": "like, oh, yeah. Alright. Sounds good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5080.7603",
      "endTime": "5082.2",
      "body": "I get it. I would too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5082.44",
      "endTime": "5097.6147",
      "body": "So that's kinda when he took his game to another level. Like, their team won with the Chicago Mission. They won the national championship. So that was pretty cool for him. And then he made NTDP, which was once he kinda saw how I was doing there and having a lot of fun."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5097.775",
      "endTime": "5107.2397",
      "body": "Yeah. He kinda just was like, alright. I'm gonna do that. And he was just super driven, and he went there and had a really good year. He was he was, like, one of their top forwards taken this year."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5107.2397",
      "endTime": "5109.4",
      "body": "So, yeah, it's pretty cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5109.88",
      "endTime": "5113.64",
      "body": "Unbelievable. So what's that dynamic gonna be like? I mean, like, on on one end"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5113.88",
      "endTime": "5115.4",
      "body": "A lot of final offs."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5115.4",
      "endTime": "5125.195",
      "body": "Yeah. But, I mean, like, on one hand, I could imagine situations where it's like, you know, you're you know, people can be hardest on the ones they love the most. Right? And so it's like easy to, like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5125.275",
      "endTime": "5125.675",
      "body": "Oh, yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5125.675",
      "endTime": "5139.96",
      "body": "You know, chirp or, like, get get hard you know, be hard on, like, your brothers. But at the same time, like, who else would you would you want in your corner when things aren't going your way to pick you up? Like, you know, like, what what are you what are you thinking about? What it's gonna be like? Do you think it's gonna be"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5140.04",
      "endTime": "5159.025",
      "body": "Yeah. I I kinda know kinda know just based off of, like even today, we all skated together, and it was just a chirp fest. But I don't know what. Like, being my first two years at Duluth, like, my older brother, he's kinda, like, doesn't really have a filter. So, like, I just get ripped."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5159.025",
      "endTime": "5179.445",
      "body": "Like, he just rips me. Like, my and then I'll I'll, like, yell at him back, like, shut up or something like that. Like like, why are you talking when you're the one doing all this? And our coaches just kinda laugh because, like, if it was someone else, they'd probably be like, guys, like, knock it off. But guys kinda just sit there and stare."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5179.445",
      "endTime": "5179.925",
      "body": "Like, this is"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5179.925",
      "endTime": "5181.925",
      "body": "unbelievable what they're saying."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5181.925",
      "endTime": "5184.7246",
      "body": "It's like a like a sitcom. It's like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5184.8047",
      "endTime": "5192.085",
      "body": "I think with Victor there, hopefully, it'll be like I I don't think I'm as harsh as my older brother is. I hope not. I guess we'll see."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5192.085",
      "endTime": "5195.3296",
      "body": "But but, yeah, I mean,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5195.4097",
      "endTime": "5202.61",
      "body": "it's kinda it's kinda easier to just put it one way out to the other when it's your brother, but, also, you know that they want the best for you, and you know that"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5202.77",
      "endTime": "5203.09",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5203.09",
      "endTime": "5211.0947",
      "body": "Like, when you're playing online with someone, it's not like they're yelling at you because you suck. They're yelling at you because they wanna go or they wanna make a play or something. So"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5211.5747",
      "endTime": "5214.0547",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Let me ask this. Sorry, James. I just said No."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5214.0547",
      "endTime": "5214.295",
      "body": "Go go"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5214.295",
      "endTime": "5229.4497",
      "body": "go before I forget, though. But, like, what and I can speak from a parent's perspective, but, like, you know, it's easy to tell my kids to do stuff because I've walked those shoes before and I know better. And, you know, but my kids, you know, do they listen to me? Nah. As much as any other kid listens."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5229.53",
      "endTime": "5245.895",
      "body": "But, like, when it comes from, like, siblings, right, like, your older brother to you, you two, your younger brother, Like, do you do you take what they like, if your brother gives you some advice on how to kinda navigate the first little bit of college hockey or whatever it is. You know? Like Yeah. Are you asking him those questions? Are you trusting what he has to say?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5245.895",
      "endTime": "5248.935",
      "body": "Same thing for your younger brother. Like, what are those conversations like?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5250.23",
      "endTime": "5261.19",
      "body": "I think for our younger brother because me and my older brother, we came both as freshmen together. He's he's, like, a year and a half older, but he played an extra year of juniors. Oh, right now. Together. So we kinda been through it together."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5261.19",
      "endTime": "5281.22",
      "body": "But for Victor, he's kinda been asking all kinds of questions. Like, what's it like? Not not just hockey, but, like, school and, like, all that stuff. And I'm not the smartest guy ever, and I've asked like, through my first two years here, like, we have a great culture at UMB. Like, I've been able to ask, like, the upperclassmen anything, and they're not gonna be like, oh, you're an idiot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5281.22",
      "endTime": "5286.98",
      "body": "They're like, give me the answer to it. Help me. And then they'll be like, alright. You're an idiot, like, after it all happens."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5286.98",
      "endTime": "5288.42",
      "body": "So it's kinda it's"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5288.42",
      "endTime": "5309.12",
      "body": "kinda that's kinda the right way to do it. But that's just one thing even we have here. Like, that I feel like that's kinda cool because we've learned from other guys and other kinda help freshmen. But Victor can figure it out on himself. I mean, he he he's good enough at hockey to to take chirps and stuff that he can have, but Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5309.2",
      "endTime": "5311.68",
      "body": "He'll learn. He'll he'll learn a lot this year."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5311.68",
      "endTime": "5324.415",
      "body": "So It's Yeah. For sure. It's it's pretty funny. We've we've we've talked to brothers before. We had on Kellen and Connor Jones, who both played d one at Quinnipiac, and and then they both got drafted."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5324.415",
      "endTime": "5344.48",
      "body": "And and now Kellen is an assistant coach at Holy Cross, and his brother Connor, his twin brother, is a assistant coach at Princeton. And when we had them on together, I forgot which one of them would say it, but I think it was Connor was talking about saying that, you know, they were on the same line together, and Kellen would like motherfuck him up and down the ice. Like, you would get so mad at him. Yeah. You know, like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5344.8",
      "endTime": "5349.4253",
      "body": "It's it's the same thing. Like, I'm the mid shift, and I'm just getting I'm just getting mother effed. I'm like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5349.665",
      "endTime": "5352.305",
      "body": "Right. Times. Times."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5352.305",
      "endTime": "5354.305",
      "body": "I'm to make a I'm trying to make a play, and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5354.305",
      "endTime": "5359.345",
      "body": "he's yelling at me. Like, what do want me to pass you the puck? Like, you're 10 feet off size. No."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5360.56",
      "endTime": "5367.28",
      "body": "Right. It must be fun though, Max. I mean, you you guys must be smiling ear to ear. I mean, you have to. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5367.28",
      "endTime": "5369.84",
      "body": "No. No? I gotcha. Not all the time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5370.0",
      "endTime": "5384.9346",
      "body": "Sometimes it's just like, what is wrong with this guy? So then I'll be like smiling a little bit and joking around. But sometimes I'll be, like, mad at myself already, and then he'll say, like, the obvious thing, and I'm just like, alright, you're dead. Like, you're dead. Alright."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5387.4946",
      "endTime": "5393.92",
      "body": "So I I have a question for you. You just said, like, even you get mad at yourself. Alright? So my son just turned 14. Okay?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5393.92",
      "endTime": "5405.2",
      "body": "He's at twenty twelve. And he has a I don't wanna say a problem. He's he's he's 14. Just turned 14. But when he gets angry at himself, like, he hit it could tank his entire game."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5405.705",
      "endTime": "5423.4697",
      "body": "So what would you say to the parents that listen, and maybe even some of the younger kids that listen, what what would you say is the best way to block out if you make a mistake? Don't get angry. You can use your anger Yeah. Maybe if you it in a positive way. But how would how would you deal with getting angry if you made a mistake on the ice and you're like, shit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5423.4697",
      "endTime": "5426.51",
      "body": "That was a problem. That was a mistake. How do you handle it?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5426.51",
      "endTime": "5442.045",
      "body": "Yeah. For me, how I handle it, like, I've I've learned that, like, when I'm pissed off or angry at something, like, I'm, like, better. Like, I'm, like, two times better. Right. Like, I was talking about, like, when I didn't make that team, and I was like and I was like, that's probably the best I've played."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5442.045",
      "endTime": "5466.435",
      "body": "I I didn't I had a broken hand, and I was still, like I felt like I wasn't even getting tired out there because I'm just, like, so mad at but it's probably not a good way to play every game because you don't really wanna be ticked off. Like, maybe maybe you need, like, a girl problem or something and just, like, just to do when you're leave the rink, you're just angry and ready to just go dominate on the ice. But I don't think that's a healthy life thing to have. But"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5466.675",
      "endTime": "5467.475",
      "body": "Right. Agreed."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5467.475",
      "endTime": "5492.115",
      "body": "For me, I think I've always been motivated to, like like, if someone else is doing better now that you're comparing, but, like, you kinda see, like, you can do that. And, like, like, you get angry, and you're like, alright. I'm doing that. That's kind of the way I've always looked at it, but I know I probably got that from my dad. My older brother's the same way and my little brother, but and, actually, yesterday, I was playing croquet with my mom, and she was losing it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5492.115",
      "endTime": "5508.09",
      "body": "So I guess, well, everyone's kinda got it in their family. She's competitive. Yeah. My dad said when he played, he had to bring a bag onto the bench, like, he was in Banhams and high school and stuff, because he would hyperventilate. Like, he would Oh, he would blow into the bag."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5508.09",
      "endTime": "5519.855",
      "body": "Because he would get so mad at himself. Like, he would just, like he wouldn't breathe, and he had to, like, get a bag and, like, that's guess that's kinda where I get that from. But Right. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5520.0947",
      "endTime": "5522.495",
      "body": "But you channel it in the right direction. I to channel"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5522.495",
      "endTime": "5545.4546",
      "body": "it be a good one. Try to be when I do get mad, I try not to let it, like, get shown to, like, other guys on my team, so I try to get, like, super quietly. I don't Mhmm. There's a couple times that I've, like, lost it and yelled across the bench or something, but I feel like I just try and just take it in and just, like, sit there on the bench like this and just so I don't do anything that affects someone else. But yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5545.935",
      "endTime": "5564.42",
      "body": "But is that is that type of, like, just kinda, like, letting, like, letting loose, if you will, like, on the bench? Like, let let let's you know, at at college. Like, is that something that, like, the coaching staff and others are gonna kinda look at whoever's doing that being like, bro, what the f are you doing right now? Like, it together, buddy?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5564.7397",
      "endTime": "5577.7153",
      "body": "Yeah. So that's kinda why I try not to do it because, like, that's I feel like that's selfish as individual. Like, you see it happen, like, a guy will break a stick over the boards or something. Like like, you do it. Like, you're mad."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5577.7153",
      "endTime": "5589.1",
      "body": "You're like, I gotta do this. But then, like, after it happens, it's like, bro, like, like, that did not that you didn't have to do that. You just could maybe channel in some other way. But right. I mean Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5589.1",
      "endTime": "5589.4204",
      "body": "The the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5589.4204",
      "endTime": "5597.18",
      "body": "control piece. My my older brother, he's different. Like, he actually loses his mind, and you can tell. Like, he doesn't get quiet. He gets loud."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5597.18",
      "endTime": "5597.3403",
      "body": "He goes"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5597.3403",
      "endTime": "5598.22",
      "body": "cross eyed."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5598.3804",
      "endTime": "5611.145",
      "body": "So I think that's that's probably the biggest reason because I've been able to see it from an outside perspective what it looks like. Yeah. So that's probably the biggest reason why, like, when I get mad, I'm super kinda trying to just be like, alright. Alright. Alright."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5611.145",
      "endTime": "5611.8647",
      "body": "You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5611.8647",
      "endTime": "5636.145",
      "body": "Yeah. Well, like like, on that's on that's on that part of things, because we've had a bunch of, like, mental performance coaches on here, and that's something that I feel like is becoming more and more commonplace even at the younger and younger ages. What was your experience with, like, let's call it mental performance? Like, and when did that get introduced to you? Is it something that, like, you're engaged to now?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5636.305",
      "endTime": "5639.6646",
      "body": "Like, what what's your journey been through through that topic?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5640.145",
      "endTime": "5662.705",
      "body": "So we had at the program, we had someone that was kinda like a mental performance coach that was, like, free to go talk to and stuff. But for me, I've kinda, like you see these people around me for like, if I need help with like, if I'm in my head during games and stuff like that. And, also, like, I'm a believer in Jesus. Like, I go to church and stuff. So, like, we have bi group bible studies in for me, like Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5662.705",
      "endTime": "5673.745",
      "body": "To listen to, like, other athletes talk about how they, like, are just like, alright. At the end of the day, like, this isn't, like, what I'm playing for. Like, I'm not this isn't the end. I'll be off. I don't score a goal."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5673.745",
      "endTime": "5684.38",
      "body": "So me, that's bigger. That's I feel like from yeah. I feel like for me, that's a big thing for my mental state. It's like Mhmm. The of at the end of the game, like, I'll lose, and I'll be so mad."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5684.86",
      "endTime": "5691.485",
      "body": "And I'll try it. Like, I'm still not good at all at, like, just, like, putting it away, but I feel like that's definitely helped me for sure."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5692.125",
      "endTime": "5703.52",
      "body": "Well, if you haven't, you should check out the chicklets interview post after the Hurricanes won the cup with Slavin. Slavin, did you listen to it?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5703.52",
      "endTime": "5704.96",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. It's a good one."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5705.04",
      "endTime": "5705.68",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5705.68",
      "endTime": "5721.1553",
      "body": "Because just when you're talking about, like, I think just briefly touching on the fact, you know, like, the idea of it not being your identity Yeah. And that there's more to it than that. Yeah. Like, just totally brought me to that episode in particular. Think it's Duchene, also from Dallas, said some similar things."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5722.355",
      "endTime": "5725.2354",
      "body": "But that's that's amazing. I think it's definitely helps"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5725.2354",
      "endTime": "5743.565",
      "body": "for sure. Yeah. Because it's just like you you understand, like, it's not like like, hockey is probably, like, the biggest thing in my life other than, like obviously, there's more to life than that, but, like, every day, I'm thinking about hockey. Yeah. And if you get so overwhelmed in it, then it just becomes like, alright."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5743.565",
      "endTime": "5750.365",
      "body": "This isn't even fun anymore. So I try to make it fun like that. And, yeah, just use that as not my identity."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5751.2397",
      "endTime": "5762.76",
      "body": "Smart. We say all the time, like and we we put out stuff all the time on, like, Instagram and and Facebook, you know, how, you know, the kids, need to have fun. Right? It can't become a job, especially at the young age. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5763.0",
      "endTime": "5769.515",
      "body": "Right? The parents can't make it feel like a job. If the kid doesn't like going to the rink, they're not gonna wanna do it when it gets hard. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5769.7554",
      "endTime": "5779.515",
      "body": "Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And if you embrace the hard and make it fun, then it's just like a bonus, because then you do it more and more and more when it's hard, and then it just becomes easy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5780.15",
      "endTime": "5781.83",
      "body": "Right. Exactly right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5781.83",
      "endTime": "5799.905",
      "body": "And what embracing the hard part and, like, getting comfortable with that, is that something that for you personally came pretty easily, or was that like a learned thing that you kinda really needed to get a bunch of reps in and get, you know, really do some hard stuff before it was like, yeah. I I I can get behind this. I like this. I'm gonna get after it type of thing."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5800.225",
      "endTime": "5811.73",
      "body": "I think I think kinda I'm going back to what I've been with before. Like, I've been in with such good group of people. Like, it's kinda like you are what you eat. Like, you are who you hang around. You said, like, the five guys you're with."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5812.05",
      "endTime": "5819.97",
      "body": "Right. So I think, like, it depends on who you're around. Like, if I was hanging out with some hoodlums, I bet you I'd be a hoodlum. Right. I mean, if I was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5820.13",
      "endTime": "5820.37",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5820.815",
      "endTime": "5829.295",
      "body": "If I was around three guys that work harder than me, I'm gonna end up probably working maybe not as hard as them, but I'm gonna work a lot harder than I was working before."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5829.455",
      "endTime": "5832.415",
      "body": "Yeah. So It it raises your game. Yep. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5832.91",
      "endTime": "5852.215",
      "body": "So I think it's just kinda who you're around. Like, even on a hockey team, like, there's guys that don't work as hard. There's guys that are better at one thing than the other. Like, say you're good at one thing, and you know that, and then you see a bunch of guys over here doing, like, better at one thing, and you just go hang out with them. And then you'll you'll find a way to be better at that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5852.215",
      "endTime": "5853.8945",
      "body": "So yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5854.135",
      "endTime": "5864.8696",
      "body": "Right. Well, I'm curious. Speaking of that kind of topic, what's the one trait you would say that let's say, hey. You're far away from it. Let's say when you have kids."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5864.95",
      "endTime": "5874.79",
      "body": "What's the one trait you want? Let's just say you want your son to play hockey or daughter to play hockey. What's the one trait you would want your child to have that maybe is not something that can be taught?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5875.4854",
      "endTime": "5908.615",
      "body": "Yeah. I'd say for me, like, if I want him to play or be like myself and something I could relate with, one thing my dad's always said is, like, watching mites and stuff. Guys are, like, wanting to score and, like, be the guy that scores. Like, I've always kinda he said, like, even from, like, my ones, like, when I'm first starting, he said I've always been, like, trying to pass it. Like, even, like, just trying to make that one extra pass, which coaches sometimes give me a hard time, like, just being like, this year, I scored, like, more goals than I ever have."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5908.615",
      "endTime": "5926.0396",
      "body": "Like, I was fine in the back of the net, but I think the biggest reason for that was, like, the line that I was on. Like, all three of us are pass first guys. Right. So, like, if you're playing with a bunch of guys that are pass and they're not really worried about that person being the goal scorer. Like, it just makes life so much easier, and it's more fun."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5926.36",
      "endTime": "5929.0",
      "body": "Like, when I say I make a backdoor pass of someone"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "5929.32",
      "endTime": "5930.36",
      "body": "It looks awesome."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5930.44",
      "endTime": "5948.9053",
      "body": "And I see the smile on their face when they score, like, I feel like that's, like, what it's all about. Like, then you can take some pride in yourself, but you get to share it with someone too. So Right. I feel like it's for me, it's just been easy that way, but I don't know if people experience it at a young age and don't, like, have that same. But I think for me, it probably happened early."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5949.3203",
      "endTime": "5953.56",
      "body": "And then I was like, well, that was fun. So I tried to do it more and more and more. So yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5953.56",
      "endTime": "5968.2046",
      "body": "And and you probably don't have to, like, be so I don't know if any guys are, really. Maybe some are, but, like, if you looked off one of your linemates, like, you you if you're all past first kind of players, you're you're not you're not, like, looking off the guy that's gonna come down on you being like, bro, what the f?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5968.2046",
      "endTime": "5980.3496",
      "body": "Yeah. It's not like I gotta go down and I shoot it. It's like I was open. You know? It's feel like it's fair that way because you know that you're trying like, our coach, my freshman year was like, why don't you ever shoot it?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "5980.4297",
      "endTime": "5995.365",
      "body": "And even though that that like, that's why that's why probably I didn't get drafted as high as I could've because I felt like I was really good and could've won the first round, but I only scored, like, 15 goals. But I was also play was playing with Cole Eiserman, who's, like, a notorious goal scorer"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "5995.525",
      "endTime": "6001.205",
      "body": "Yeah. Sure. On my line. So, like, it's fun playing with him. Like, he because he puts the puck in"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6001.205",
      "endTime": "6010.7603",
      "body": "the bag. He's a passer. It's pretty fun. But I got to kinda experience the other side of it too where you're playing with two other guys that are looking to pass to you. So yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6010.9204",
      "endTime": "6013.0",
      "body": "I think yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6013.0",
      "endTime": "6025.695",
      "body": "Yeah. At the younger age, a lot of kids just wanna score, Max. Like Yeah. Know, it's you're a 100% right, and they don't the team concept at at the younger age is just really hard for them to get their head around. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6025.695",
      "endTime": "6026.335",
      "body": "And I'm not And"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6026.335",
      "endTime": "6028.655",
      "body": "it could be parents too pushing and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6029.135",
      "endTime": "6029.9346",
      "body": "100%."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6030.0947",
      "endTime": "6043.11",
      "body": "Want you to score. For me, my dad was never like that. He never cared about our points or like, he's always like he'd be, like, proud of us if we were working hard and stuff like that. So that's kind of the way it's supposed to be."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6043.27",
      "endTime": "6060.2446",
      "body": "We say it to our kids all the time. We're like, as long as you affect the game, just go out there and do it doesn't have to be on the score sheet, right? If it is, great, but when you work hard, good things will happen to you. Points come, you know? And and again, a real hockey coach knows that you're impacting the game even if it doesn't show up on the score sheet, right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6060.2446",
      "endTime": "6068.02",
      "body": "Yeah. Especially when you get to the levels that you're at, you know, not everybody can put the puck in the back of the net. Right? I mean, the kid who is I don't get me"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6068.02",
      "endTime": "6071.94",
      "body": "wrong. It's nice. I mean, it's nice short hole. It feels good. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6071.94",
      "endTime": "6078.505",
      "body": "But Yeah. It feels real good, but, like, if you, you know, if you're doing it with other guys, it's more it's"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6078.505",
      "endTime": "6080.105",
      "body": "way more fun. It's not even close."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6080.105",
      "endTime": "6080.665",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6080.745",
      "endTime": "6087.225",
      "body": "Right. That's so well said, by the way. You you share it with somebody else. You said that was, like, five minutes ago. That was, like, so well said."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6087.83",
      "endTime": "6122.25",
      "body": "Well, one thing I I just popped into my mind as you were talking about, like, natural goal school scores and Eiserman and, you know, someone's always fun at the back of the net made me just think about just, like, the kind of reps that, you know, yourself or others have kind of put in leading up to where you are now. And one of the things that get this happens a lot over here, and just curious about what your experience was in terms of, like, having, like, private coaching, either semi private lessons, whether it be skating, stick handling, whatever it might be. Was that some is that something that's, like, prevalent amongst folks in Minnesota? And if it is, like, was that something? Did you have skating coaches and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6122.25",
      "endTime": "6140.965",
      "body": "skills coaches growing up? Yeah. Honestly, like, I was just talking about this with my buddy today in the gym. Like, we do, like, battle drills like no one's business. Like, in the summer, like, I was just so I was just in Detroit for development camp, but I also went for the week before."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6141.045",
      "endTime": "6158.47",
      "body": "And there was a lot of, like, skating work, skill work, like, around cones and stuff. And I was like, you guys do this all summer? Like, I was like, is this all they do? Like, I was watching during development camp. There was, like, a group of, like, four guys out there shooting on a shooter tutor, skating around cones."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6158.975",
      "endTime": "6178.5396",
      "body": "And I'm like, the I I I would hate hockey if this is what I was doing every day. Mhmm. So we do, like in Hermantown, it's it's always kinda been, like like, we had the outdoor rinks when we were younger. Like, we didn't have coaches out there. We were playing, like, Hongo or we call it Stanley Cup where you're just pretty much just playing one v one v one v one v one all the time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6178.5396",
      "endTime": "6192.3247",
      "body": "Right. We still do the UMD, actually. The end of practice, we'll get, like, five, six guys, and we'll just play all v o. So I think that's kinda like that's literally what I was talking about. I was like, there's so much hockey in the scrimmage."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6192.3247",
      "endTime": "6230.375",
      "body": "Like, there's so much hockey in the scrimmage. That's kinda a saying we had one of our coaches in Hermantown, like was like, you could do all this stuff all day, and then you still won't know how to, like, read a defenseman or, like like, make a fake on, like, an actual human being. Right. So I think that's for me, that's my biggest thing is, like and it builds competitiveness. Like, you're playing a game against someone and you keep it, like, a track of a series or, like, you in one day and not the next day, it kinda builds a fire and makes you do, like, an extra couple shots after practice or, like like, may then you find something that you could work on."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6231.0",
      "endTime": "6231.48",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6231.48",
      "endTime": "6243.8",
      "body": "Like, whether it's a one timer or, like, picking up a puck on a wall. Like, we do all those for, like, probably twenty, thirty minutes. Just, like, simple stuff that you know helps you, and then we'll just get into, like, a game or something. So"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6244.04",
      "endTime": "6244.52",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6244.6",
      "endTime": "6245.8",
      "body": "That's kinda how we do it here."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6246.305",
      "endTime": "6262.64",
      "body": "You know, it's so funny that you that you mentioned the, like, the battle drills and stuff like that because the guy whose jersey is hanging over your right shoulder, I mean, that guy goes with Sydney Crosby every spring summer, and the two of them just go at it like animals."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6262.8003",
      "endTime": "6263.2",
      "body": "Oh, yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6263.2",
      "endTime": "6264.7197",
      "body": "I mean, you're right? Like,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6264.72",
      "endTime": "6266.0",
      "body": "That's my favorite player."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6266.0",
      "endTime": "6274.48",
      "body": "Yeah. I figured as much. I figured as much. Now, is he your favorite player because he's also a shorter dude in the NHL?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6274.64",
      "endTime": "6280.195",
      "body": "Yeah. When I was younger, like, yeah. I mean, I was the biggest Marshan fan. Like, my nickname was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6280.355",
      "endTime": "6280.835",
      "body": "It's hard"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6280.835",
      "endTime": "6283.555",
      "body": "not to be My nickname was Brad, but by all the guys"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6283.555",
      "endTime": "6284.5146",
      "body": "in the meantime."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6286.115",
      "endTime": "6290.0347",
      "body": "Because I wear my Brad Marshan jersey outdoor on the outdoor rings all the time."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6290.115",
      "endTime": "6290.755",
      "body": "That's Nice."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6291.9004",
      "endTime": "6301.02",
      "body": "And I he was, like, younger, but he but he, like, he didn't back down to anyone. Like, he was just like Yeah. Because I was always smaller. Like, I'm taller than he is now. Like, I'm I'm not small anymore."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6301.02",
      "endTime": "6322.2495",
      "body": "Like, I'm not big by any means, but, yeah, I was I was always kinda wanting to be like him because he played so big. Like, he would just he would he would hit guys. Some of the other stuff he would do, maybe a little shady, but, like, I just like, he get he impact the game like like like no one else. They're just the little what he brought. So I that's who I wanna play like."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6322.4897",
      "endTime": "6326.0894",
      "body": "Like, I'm not not close to that level, but that's who I'd like to be like."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6326.3296",
      "endTime": "6329.6895",
      "body": "Yeah. I could see you doing everything except the licking the face part."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6329.69",
      "endTime": "6331.61",
      "body": "Yeah. That's the one."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6331.61",
      "endTime": "6331.9297",
      "body": "That's the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6331.9297",
      "endTime": "6335.3696",
      "body": "one I think in everyone's mind. 100 cannot unsee."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6335.3696",
      "endTime": "6339.905",
      "body": "No. The guy's awesome. He's it's hard not to like him. Let's tell you. You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6339.905",
      "endTime": "6340.8647",
      "body": "It really is."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6340.8647",
      "endTime": "6342.8647",
      "body": "Jeez. I'm telling Alright. So listen,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6342.8647",
      "endTime": "6357.33",
      "body": "Matthew. Also another story about that was I was at men's worlds, obviously, with, like, guys that have played with Marshy. Mhmm. I never got to meet him or anything, but they're just like I was like, yeah. What's he like?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6357.33",
      "endTime": "6367.755",
      "body": "Like, I'm just, like, just, like, trying to ask questions, and they're like, oh, he's the best. They're they're all just like, he's the best. Like, everything you'd want. Like so I'm just like, yeah. Let's go."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6367.995",
      "endTime": "6369.915",
      "body": "Yeah. Listen. You'll get to meet him shortly."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6369.915",
      "endTime": "6370.0747",
      "body": "Well"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6370.155",
      "endTime": "6373.1147",
      "body": "You know? He's not retiring anytime soon. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6373.77",
      "endTime": "6389.45",
      "body": "But there was also the story of him. He went back home to, like you know, we're obviously talking about his on ice antics, but then, like, you know, like, off the ice. He went back home to, like, coach a game. Like, he gotta leave an absence from the team, you know, which was a remarkable statement just to go there and support a tragedy that happened, like, back home. You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6390.2354",
      "endTime": "6392.315",
      "body": "Yeah. A staple. Special."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6393.515",
      "endTime": "6403.2754",
      "body": "Totally. Totally. Well, listen. We've we've kept you for like an hour fifteen, which is like more than we thought we would be talking to you for. So I just wanna first and foremost say thank you so much."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6403.2754",
      "endTime": "6434.2803",
      "body": "This has like been unreal and want to be respectful of your time. But one last question before before I go. And, Jim, I don't know if you got anything else. But, you know, for any parents that are, you know, well, plenty of parents are gonna be listening to this. But like if there was like any advice that you've gotten along the way, no matter how simple or or not, like, is there anything that you you'd wanna share with, like, the, you know, like, younger kids that are, you know, trying to make it to, like, you you know, the their first triple a team or to division III or their high school team or whatever it might be?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6434.2803",
      "endTime": "6436.36",
      "body": "Any what what advice would you give them?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6442.52",
      "endTime": "6443.64",
      "body": "Put you on the spot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6443.64",
      "endTime": "6447.855",
      "body": "Yeah. Totally put you on the spot. But I mean It doesn't have to be anything like, you know Yeah. Like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6449.4546",
      "endTime": "6464.84",
      "body": "Just, like, I don't know, have fun with it. I feel like that's a generic answer. But, like, I don't think things are built in like like like, Rome wasn't built in a day. Like like, for me, like like, have a buddy that he's playing on UMD next year. We kinda grew up playing together."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6464.84",
      "endTime": "6477.895",
      "body": "He was always, like, almost as good as us. Like, he was always really good. Yeah. But, like, he never no one ever talked about it. Like, he's playing division one hockey next year, and he was just always, like, like, a good player, but never, like, got talked about."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6477.895",
      "endTime": "6484.135",
      "body": "He went did his time. Like, he played with us, me and my older brother. He was our line mate kinda, and they"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6484.135",
      "endTime": "6485.735",
      "body": "would talk about, like, my older brother a lot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6485.735",
      "endTime": "6497.23",
      "body": "And then I got talked about, like, a little bit because I was younger, and but he would get, like, nothing. And, like, he he didn't really mind it. He was kinda quieter kid. And so then he went to juniors. He played in the Nall for a year."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6497.71",
      "endTime": "6509.905",
      "body": "He did really good there. So everyone's like, alright. Maybe make the USHL. So then next year or last year, he played in the or two years ago, he played in the USHL. He was more like a fourth, third line guy center."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6510.305",
      "endTime": "6523.08",
      "body": "And now this year, he went and was the first line center. His last year, junior. Their team was really good in Lincoln. And now that next year, he's coming in to play for UMD, and he's gonna be a big role on our team. Like, he's Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6523.08",
      "endTime": "6533.4",
      "body": "He he probably could have played college for the last two years, but they kinda told him, like, go back. Like, move up the ranks. And he played wing. Now he's a center. Like, you play both now, so that's pretty cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6533.4",
      "endTime": "6541.345",
      "body": "You can learn both ways. He's a penalty kill guy, power play guy. Wow. But his name's Kaid Kolhansky. So, I guess, it's just kinda what it's like."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6541.345",
      "endTime": "6552.05",
      "body": "You stick with it, like, you're gonna end up making it. Like, you just have fun with it. I I I know he's had fun. He kept probably gotta get away with kinda me and my older brother, which is kinda nice for him. Just get away from us a little bit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6552.05",
      "endTime": "6553.8896",
      "body": "But yeah. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6554.13",
      "endTime": "6565.385",
      "body": "And, like, he's learned so much, I bet, just, like, being outside of Duluth and the other player. It's like every anyone's story, but, like, he's stuck with it. He had fun with it, and now he's playing college hockey. So"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6565.8647",
      "endTime": "6567.545",
      "body": "Yeah. Keep grinding. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6567.545",
      "endTime": "6568.185",
      "body": "Keep going."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6568.185",
      "endTime": "6571.785",
      "body": "Yeah. If you love it, just keep grinding, and good things normally happen. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6571.785",
      "endTime": "6574.105",
      "body": "Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. 100%."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6574.185",
      "endTime": "6578.825",
      "body": "Yeah. It's awesome, Max. Dude, thank you so much for the time. We really appreciate tonight. You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6578.825",
      "endTime": "6579.545",
      "body": "Yeah. Thank you, guys."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6579.93",
      "endTime": "6580.81",
      "body": "This is good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6580.97",
      "endTime": "6582.73",
      "body": "That's awesome. My chest there."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6582.73",
      "endTime": "6583.21",
      "body": "Yeah. There"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6583.21",
      "endTime": "6583.77",
      "body": "you go."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6583.77",
      "endTime": "6591.5303",
      "body": "Hopefully, it helped. And listen, it's gonna our fans are gonna love it, so thank you again. Yeah. We'll be watching hopefully back to back Hobeys, just saying."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6592.025",
      "endTime": "6593.1445",
      "body": "I don't know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6593.625",
      "endTime": "6599.2246",
      "body": "No pressure. Just saying. We'll be watching for back to back Hobeys. No. But"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6599.8647",
      "endTime": "6603.625",
      "body": "We're we're just watching for effort, buddy. That's all we care about over here is effort. Yeah. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6605.0503",
      "endTime": "6608.41",
      "body": "The points don't matter, and the points come. But no, man. Yeah. Thank you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6608.41",
      "endTime": "6609.21",
      "body": "Thank you so much"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6609.21",
      "endTime": "6613.0503",
      "body": "for all the success, and, we'll definitely do this again. This is a blast, man."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6613.0503",
      "endTime": "6614.81",
      "body": "Awesome. Yeah. Thank you, man."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6615.37",
      "endTime": "6615.69",
      "body": "Night, buddy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6615.69",
      "endTime": "6616.17",
      "body": "Have a"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6616.17",
      "endTime": "6616.49",
      "body": "good night."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6617.895",
      "endTime": "6626.855",
      "body": "Find him. Alright, everybody. We are back from our interview with Hobey Baker award winner Max Plante. That was fun, man. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6626.855",
      "endTime": "6628.135",
      "body": "It was a lot of fun."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6628.1353",
      "endTime": "6629.175",
      "body": "You know, I thought I thought"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6629.495",
      "endTime": "6630.1353",
      "body": "I enjoyed that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6630.1353",
      "endTime": "6635.1396",
      "body": "Speaking to someone who's a younger. Like, he's he's super well spoken. He's super well spoken."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6635.1396",
      "endTime": "6635.54",
      "body": "Very well spoken."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6635.54",
      "endTime": "6637.06",
      "body": "And like, it's just also"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6637.3",
      "endTime": "6638.34",
      "body": "Carries himself very well."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6638.42",
      "endTime": "6641.94",
      "body": "Carries himself very well. You you feel like you're talking to someone like that's beyond their years."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6641.94",
      "endTime": "6644.7397",
      "body": "100%. His parents did a very good job of raising him."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6644.7397",
      "endTime": "6651.035",
      "body": "Yeah. Well, That's, you know, yeah. They did. They did. I don't know what I was gonna say."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6651.035",
      "endTime": "6651.755",
      "body": "Yeah. Me neither."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6651.755",
      "endTime": "6652.075",
      "body": "But there's"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6652.075",
      "endTime": "6656.715",
      "body": "not much to say because he's very well he's a very very, mature young man."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6656.715",
      "endTime": "6664.64",
      "body": "Yeah. And it'll be listen, I'm and after the interview, I'm I'm super excited to see him play. I'm super excited to see his brothers play. Like, I wanna keep tabs on this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6664.64",
      "endTime": "6672.0",
      "body": "A 100%. We're gonna definitely gonna follow them. You know? I was we said at the end of the interview, like, we'll have you on, like, mid season or, like, when you win the Hobey again. You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6672.0",
      "endTime": "6672.96",
      "body": "Can you imagine that?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6672.96",
      "endTime": "6674.96",
      "body": "Can you imagine, like, one of his brothers winning it or"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6674.96",
      "endTime": "6675.04",
      "body": "something"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6675.04",
      "endTime": "6676.3203",
      "body": "like Let's go catch a game."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6676.965",
      "endTime": "6678.165",
      "body": "We can? Yeah. I mean"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6678.3247",
      "endTime": "6678.965",
      "body": "We might go out"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6678.965",
      "endTime": "6680.2446",
      "body": "there. Listen."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6680.645",
      "endTime": "6681.6846",
      "body": "Go for a trip?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6681.685",
      "endTime": "6683.205",
      "body": "Listen. I would love to go out there."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6683.205",
      "endTime": "6685.2046",
      "body": "Yeah. We should we should make like a"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6685.525",
      "endTime": "6686.1646",
      "body": "Listen."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6686.2446",
      "endTime": "6688.165",
      "body": "A thing out of it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6688.165",
      "endTime": "6688.405",
      "body": "We can."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6688.405",
      "endTime": "6689.445",
      "body": "Go check out a few games."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6689.85",
      "endTime": "6693.05",
      "body": "Oh, and you wanna do like UMD, like University of Minnesota."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6693.13",
      "endTime": "6694.33",
      "body": "Yeah. We can take a look at the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6694.33",
      "endTime": "6695.21",
      "body": "campus schedule,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6695.21",
      "endTime": "6699.9297",
      "body": "see if get like a junior schedule. We can look at the Definitely. You know, all the schedules."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6700.33",
      "endTime": "6705.335",
      "body": "We definitely can. So I'm looking at their I'm looking at their. This is their"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6705.335",
      "endTime": "6707.495",
      "body": "We should do a Minnesota road trip."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6708.055",
      "endTime": "6709.6553",
      "body": "You wanna drive out there?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6709.6553",
      "endTime": "6712.7754",
      "body": "No. Not from here. Oh, You can fly and then we can drive"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6712.7754",
      "endTime": "6716.2153",
      "body": "and Yeah. And drive around. Tour. We could do that. That's a cool idea."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6716.7305",
      "endTime": "6719.21",
      "body": "I know. So I'm gonna Another"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6719.45",
      "endTime": "6720.97",
      "body": "idea by me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6720.97",
      "endTime": "6731.425",
      "body": "I'm telling you. I don't know what I would do without you. So so alright. So I'm looking at their schedule, and this stuff is so gonna conflict with our children. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6731.425",
      "endTime": "6732.945",
      "body": "On so many levels, but that's okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6732.945",
      "endTime": "6733.8247",
      "body": "But we, you know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6733.8247",
      "endTime": "6736.705",
      "body": "Yeah. Because our kids are gonna wanna go to this like in the worst way."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6736.705",
      "endTime": "6737.265",
      "body": "Well, they"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6737.3447",
      "endTime": "6738.065",
      "body": "You know they're"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6738.065",
      "endTime": "6739.905",
      "body": "going to by the way. Yeah. But, you know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6739.985",
      "endTime": "6741.905",
      "body": "I hear you. Alright. So I'm looking"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6741.905",
      "endTime": "6750.81",
      "body": "at Dude, know, remember when we were kids Uh-huh. And you had first gotten your driver's license and you we were driving around in your car, which was stick shift?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6750.81",
      "endTime": "6752.4897",
      "body": "Mhmm. I do."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6752.4897",
      "endTime": "6760.105",
      "body": "And it was snowing like bad. Like school had already been canceled for the next day. And we were driving around."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6760.185",
      "endTime": "6762.185",
      "body": "Where you're going with this. In the parking lot?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6762.185",
      "endTime": "6769.065",
      "body": "Well, parking lot and the roads, and you would just be driving and I'd pull the emergency brake. I'd pull the emergency brake,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6769.065",
      "endTime": "6769.3047",
      "body": "and you"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6769.3047",
      "endTime": "6771.385",
      "body": "weren't paying it or you weren't expecting it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6771.465",
      "endTime": "6773.225",
      "body": "Ripped the e brake while I'm driving."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6773.225",
      "endTime": "6775.73",
      "body": "What a dick. Your car would go full."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6776.45",
      "endTime": "6786.29",
      "body": "A fucking douchebag. Like, when I look back on that, you're such a jackass. I mean, like, I remember so I remember ripping e brakes in the, in the parking lot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6786.37",
      "endTime": "6787.33",
      "body": "Which parking lot?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6787.33",
      "endTime": "6789.33",
      "body": "In the Indian Trail Club parking lot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6789.955",
      "endTime": "6793.075",
      "body": "When it was snowy? Yeah. Yeah? I don't I don't"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6793.315",
      "endTime": "6800.7554",
      "body": "For those of you who don't know, the Indian Trail Club was like a like a fancy tennis club that's that was around"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6800.7554",
      "endTime": "6802.1953",
      "body": "A lot of people don't know about it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6802.1953",
      "endTime": "6802.6753",
      "body": "Well For"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6802.6753",
      "endTime": "6803.555",
      "body": "sure. Correct."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6803.555",
      "endTime": "6807.44",
      "body": "But the for those of you who do, we were ripping e breaks in the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6808.4004",
      "endTime": "6808.96",
      "body": "Parking lot."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6808.96",
      "endTime": "6810.72",
      "body": "In the parking lot of the of like a"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6810.8003",
      "endTime": "6811.4404",
      "body": "Good times."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6811.52",
      "endTime": "6823.275",
      "body": "Of a tennis club. Yeah. One to to to this day, still, I think you have to wear whites to play, if I'm not mistaken. They will not let you on the court without whites."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6823.275",
      "endTime": "6826.635",
      "body": "Oh, it's true at Wimbledon, which is on right now."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6826.795",
      "endTime": "6827.755",
      "body": "Yeah. But that place is"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6827.755",
      "endTime": "6828.0747",
      "body": "not literally"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6828.0747",
      "endTime": "6829.755",
      "body": "right now. Place is not Wimbledon, though."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6829.755",
      "endTime": "6830.875",
      "body": "No. Far from it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6830.875",
      "endTime": "6831.1147",
      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6831.1147",
      "endTime": "6832.0747",
      "body": "It's got clay courts."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6833.2",
      "endTime": "6839.52",
      "body": "It does, which is pretty cool at the time. Yeah. You know? You saw the bull mark. So every time I would beat you, you'd see where I see exactly where the ball landed."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6839.52",
      "endTime": "6840.4",
      "body": "Hardly."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "6840.96",
      "endTime": "6841.44",
      "body": "I think"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6841.44",
      "endTime": "6842.08",
      "body": "he beat me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6842.08",
      "endTime": "6844.1597",
      "body": "I think we both thought we were Andre Agassi?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6844.16",
      "endTime": "6847.065",
      "body": "I I was. You were? I mean, I tried."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6847.065",
      "endTime": "6847.625",
      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6847.625",
      "endTime": "6852.2646",
      "body": "I I had the shoes, the racket You did. Index shorts. Yeah. Yeah. Had all."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6853.145",
      "endTime": "6858.025",
      "body": "Earring. Yeah. Mullet. Don't don't don't mess with this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6858.025",
      "endTime": "6858.185",
      "body": "Did you"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6858.185",
      "endTime": "6860.025",
      "body": "have the mullet? I had definitely had a mullet."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6861.1304",
      "endTime": "6864.6504",
      "body": "Maybe you did. You had a big serve. A la Pete Sampras."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6864.6504",
      "endTime": "6868.0903",
      "body": "Dude. No. Agassi. I was quick like Agassi."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6868.0903",
      "endTime": "6876.5703",
      "body": "Didn't have a big serve. You were definitely not quick like Agassi, by the way. That is so false. It's not even funny. You were definitely not even a little bit quick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6876.805",
      "endTime": "6877.285",
      "body": "I mean"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6877.525",
      "endTime": "6881.7646",
      "body": "Big forehand to give you that. Your backhand was dog shit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6881.765",
      "endTime": "6883.8447",
      "body": "What do you mean? My two hander was nasty. No."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6884.725",
      "endTime": "6885.365",
      "body": "That wasn't."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6885.365",
      "endTime": "6888.3247",
      "body": "There wasn't a part of my game that wasn't awesome."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6888.565",
      "endTime": "6891.205",
      "body": "Your net game was not awesome."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6891.205",
      "endTime": "6891.765",
      "body": "Really? Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6892.15",
      "endTime": "6893.27",
      "body": "Your baseline game was better."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6893.27",
      "endTime": "6893.91",
      "body": "Do you think you could"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6895.35",
      "endTime": "6899.3496",
      "body": "Baseline game Fine. Was better. No. You had a decent baseline game."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6899.51",
      "endTime": "6900.31",
      "body": "Yeah. I could hit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6900.31",
      "endTime": "6902.55",
      "body": "Yeah. No. You never could. That's what I'm saying. You'd be good at pickling."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6902.55",
      "endTime": "6903.59",
      "body": "I wasn't quick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6903.91",
      "endTime": "6907.3745",
      "body": "No. That's one thing you never in any sport for that matter."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6908.495",
      "endTime": "6909.6147",
      "body": "Well, you know"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6910.0146",
      "endTime": "6917.135",
      "body": "Well, when you're, like, six four, you know And 10. At, 10 years old. I mean, it's hard to be quick. Fair. You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6917.135",
      "endTime": "6918.0146",
      "body": "That's not easy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6918.35",
      "endTime": "6920.99",
      "body": "Anyway, we digress. Yes. So what was the whole point of all this?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6920.99",
      "endTime": "6924.19",
      "body": "So what we were talking we're talking about going out to to UMD and actually watching the game."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6924.19",
      "endTime": "6928.99",
      "body": "Oh, yeah. We'll do that. So they You should. I'd like to. They open up first, versus LIU."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6928.99",
      "endTime": "6930.27",
      "body": "We should plan a road trip."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6930.35",
      "endTime": "6930.91",
      "body": "Like you're saying."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6931.065",
      "endTime": "6941.385",
      "body": "Like I was saying. Yeah. But then I just was thinking about making it even bigger. In fact, we should take off most of December and just drive around watching hockey games, the two of us."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6941.545",
      "endTime": "6957.2104",
      "body": "Dude, I I'm I'm looking at it's not it's not the worst idea. I'm looking right now, and they're playing, the University of Minnesota, the Gophers Mhmm. October 16, Friday, seventeenth, Saturday. I'm gonna guess at UMD, I'm guessing that is an insane rivalry game."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6957.45",
      "endTime": "6958.0103",
      "body": "Probably."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6958.0103",
      "endTime": "6966.1147",
      "body": "Has to be. And then the following weekend, Bemidji is coming to, Minnesota Duluth that twenty third and twenty fourth, Friday, Saturday."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6966.1147",
      "endTime": "6966.9946",
      "body": "Okay. Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6966.9946",
      "endTime": "6974.5146",
      "body": "Okay. That'd be a pretty sweet or be. Or Saint Cloud is coming. Again, these are all, like, Minnesota schools. Saint Cloud is coming."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6975.86",
      "endTime": "6993.4453",
      "body": "Well, that's at Saint Cloud, so I'd take that back. And then Arizona State comes, at the end of November. I'm gonna oh, this would be such a good game at home, but it's away. UMD at North Dakota. That's probably an insane game."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "6993.4453",
      "endTime": "6997.605",
      "body": "Well, listen. Instead of going through their schedule game by game"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "6998.165",
      "endTime": "7002.565",
      "body": "Obviously, Denver at Duluth, January twenty second, twenty third. Do. Yeah. That'd be sick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7003.2803",
      "endTime": "7005.2803",
      "body": "Yeah. Let's let's earmark that one."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7005.9204",
      "endTime": "7012.8003",
      "body": "Oh, here you go. February twenty sixth, twenty seventh, the end of the season, the last two games of the season, right before the playoffs,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7012.8003",
      "endTime": "7013.44",
      "body": "is"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7015.04",
      "endTime": "7019.6045",
      "body": "no DAC at UMD. Mhmm. That would be sick."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7019.8447",
      "endTime": "7020.965",
      "body": "Yes. It might be."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7020.965",
      "endTime": "7022.405",
      "body": "Last two home games of the season."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "7022.405",
      "endTime": "7022.565",
      "body": "Well, let's"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7022.645",
      "endTime": "7023.8447",
      "body": "Last two games of the season period."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7023.8447",
      "endTime": "7026.245",
      "body": "Let's let's look at the calendars."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7026.245",
      "endTime": "7027.765",
      "body": "Or Minnesota early on the season."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7027.765",
      "endTime": "7032.04",
      "body": "We'll figure it out. Yeah. But we should we should yeah. We'll plan a trip. We All right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7032.04",
      "endTime": "7035.08",
      "body": "So what else? What else? What else?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7035.16",
      "endTime": "7038.68",
      "body": "What else? That was a great interview, by the way. Like, I really enjoyed that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7038.68",
      "endTime": "7039.0",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7039.0",
      "endTime": "7041.08",
      "body": "Our first Hobey Baker award winner."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7041.16",
      "endTime": "7043.16",
      "body": "That that is true. That is a fact."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7043.16",
      "endTime": "7048.655",
      "body": "Super dialed in kid. Again, his parents seem like they did a really nice job with him."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7048.735",
      "endTime": "7058.175",
      "body": "Yeah. Yeah. I know. No. It's and just, you know, just hearing oh, I love the part about, you know, him just like whenever he would get, like, you know, like frustrated or upset."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7058.175",
      "endTime": "7077.515",
      "body": "Like, you know, just how, like, you know, he would just turn that into, like, you know, that let that anger fuel him out on the ice. You know, I think that's something that look. It sounds like he he had that, you know, kind of built in. I I think, you know, myself included and there's probably others out there that, you know, would hope you know, I hope Otto gets a little bit more of that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7077.515",
      "endTime": "7078.635",
      "body": "Yeah. Hope my kid does too."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7078.635",
      "endTime": "7084.395",
      "body": "You know? And I Yeah. And, you know, it's it's easy for you to see kids when they get deflated. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7084.395",
      "endTime": "7084.795",
      "body": "Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7084.795",
      "endTime": "7086.155",
      "body": "As opposed to kids that get like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7086.315",
      "endTime": "7087.755",
      "body": "That get wound up and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7087.835",
      "endTime": "7088.715",
      "body": "go and go with it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "7088.715",
      "endTime": "7088.875",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7088.875",
      "endTime": "7090.155",
      "body": "Yeah. Which is great, by the way."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7090.155",
      "endTime": "7112.945",
      "body": "Which is great. Yeah. You know, who who told me I don't know if I someone told me the an expression that they had, which was kind of I'll say it and then it'll make sense. But the expression was this, and this was like an Eastern European person or maybe he's even Russian Right. Who was telling me like, you know what they say back in, you know, my home country."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7113.265",
      "endTime": "7115.265",
      "body": "In Russia? Or Wherever."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7115.3447",
      "endTime": "7116.705",
      "body": "Like Eastern Europe somewhere."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7116.705",
      "endTime": "7116.945",
      "body": "Uh-huh."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7117.08",
      "endTime": "7124.6",
      "body": "You'd you'd rather you'd rather tame have to tame a wild horse than drag a lame donkey."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7128.12",
      "endTime": "7129.72",
      "body": "Who said that? That's a great line."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7129.72",
      "endTime": "7130.6",
      "body": "I forget."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7130.6",
      "endTime": "7131.665",
      "body": "That's a great line,"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7131.665",
      "endTime": "7135.9854",
      "body": "by You'd the rather have to tame a wild horse than drag a lame donkey."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7135.9854",
      "endTime": "7138.625",
      "body": "Dragging a lame donkey does not sound easy. No."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7138.625",
      "endTime": "7139.5054",
      "body": "Not even a little bit."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7139.5054",
      "endTime": "7141.025",
      "body": "That's probably super difficult."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7141.0254",
      "endTime": "7150.52",
      "body": "That's probably not easy. No. But the point the point is that you'd rather have to, like, pull back someone that's like a total killer than try to like Yes. Turn someone into a killer."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7150.52",
      "endTime": "7152.44",
      "body": "Listen. Very good point."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7152.44",
      "endTime": "7152.7603",
      "body": "You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7152.7603",
      "endTime": "7162.165",
      "body": "So Yeah. No. The event. He, you know, it was it was that was a good answer that he gave there, you know, about, you know it's funny he mentioned like, you know, guys that like break their stick over the over the boards. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7162.165",
      "endTime": "7164.3247",
      "body": "Over the As being super individual. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7164.3247",
      "endTime": "7171.045",
      "body": "Yeah. You know, mean, it's and I don't think that looks good for the rest of your teammates. You know what I mean? The teammates don't like that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7171.525",
      "endTime": "7172.565",
      "body": "I don't know. They're like, what's the way"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7172.565",
      "endTime": "7176.245",
      "body": "he snaps his stick? Yeah. They would love that to channel that in different directions."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7176.245",
      "endTime": "7181.36",
      "body": "I get it. But like at the same time, you know what I did when he was talking about that, I always started thinking about like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7181.52",
      "endTime": "7183.44",
      "body": "How you break sticks over crossbars?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7183.44",
      "endTime": "7184.0",
      "body": "Me?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7184.0",
      "endTime": "7184.48",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7184.7197",
      "endTime": "7187.28",
      "body": "No. I I just like BoJack's and I break them over my"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7187.52",
      "endTime": "7188.8",
      "body": "Over your knee? My knee. Gotcha."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7188.8",
      "endTime": "7189.885",
      "body": "No. I'm joking. I don't do that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7189.885",
      "endTime": "7190.685",
      "body": "Break them over your head?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7190.685",
      "endTime": "7195.2446",
      "body": "No, maybe. When I was younger, I tried and didn't work. It just left a mark."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7195.3247",
      "endTime": "7197.5645",
      "body": "I can imagine. I'm sure it gave you a headache."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7198.8447",
      "endTime": "7209.39",
      "body": "No, well, now you make me think about those stupid videos. I think we talked about on a pod where there's like, you know, like the the like the the videos with the karate person like breaking like wood."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7209.39",
      "endTime": "7209.87",
      "body": "My god."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7209.87",
      "endTime": "7211.23",
      "body": "You were like trying to do that"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7211.23",
      "endTime": "7212.35",
      "body": "as a kid. And you're"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7212.35",
      "endTime": "7231.115",
      "body": "like You would like try to like chop wood. And then you know, like it's so stupid. He's just stacked shit up and you, like, pretend like you can cut it with your hand like you have a fucking Ginsu attached to your your forearm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7231.115",
      "endTime": "7232.1553",
      "body": "It's like Oh my god."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7232.1553",
      "endTime": "7233.515",
      "body": "That's so so ridiculous."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7233.515",
      "endTime": "7234.81",
      "body": "Oh my god. Stop it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7234.81",
      "endTime": "7236.4897",
      "body": "You know what I mean?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7236.4897",
      "endTime": "7237.29",
      "body": "Yes. I do. Okay."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7237.29",
      "endTime": "7237.77",
      "body": "Oh my god."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7237.77",
      "endTime": "7243.29",
      "body": "Was thinking of something oh, yes. You made me think of something that I can't say on this podcast. Okay. You know? But oh my god."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7243.29",
      "endTime": "7245.05",
      "body": "Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7245.05",
      "endTime": "7253.4146",
      "body": "But yeah. Yeah. My kid my kid is this is a stick slammer, you know? Yep. And I'm trying to get him to not be."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7253.735",
      "endTime": "7253.9746",
      "body": "Well"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7254.215",
      "endTime": "7258.215",
      "body": "You know? I want him to channel that and use it for, like, good as opposed to, like, that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7259.7",
      "endTime": "7260.66",
      "body": "Yeah. I don't know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7260.66",
      "endTime": "7266.74",
      "body": "You know, he has he has, like, two hand to stick over his head. Don't get me wrong. He doesn't do that. Right. He he it's more of, like, when he makes a mistake, you know, the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7266.8203",
      "endTime": "7268.66",
      "body": "He's just hitting the ice. Yeah. Yeah. No. I hear you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7268.66",
      "endTime": "7272.98",
      "body": "He doesn't come up high. It's just that it's a it's a but it's something I know that he's frustrated when"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7272.98",
      "endTime": "7276.245",
      "body": "I see it. And and and some people might notice it, but not"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7276.4053",
      "endTime": "7277.685",
      "body": "fucking know he's doing it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7278.245",
      "endTime": "7278.8853",
      "body": "I mean"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7279.0454",
      "endTime": "7283.605",
      "body": "He did it, like, three times. We're at Sacred Heart in the last game, and he was like so I I said"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7283.765",
      "endTime": "7284.5654",
      "body": "Did you show the video?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7284.5654",
      "endTime": "7285.125",
      "body": "He did."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7285.125",
      "endTime": "7285.765",
      "body": "And what is He"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7285.765",
      "endTime": "7288.4854",
      "body": "had no idea. Really? I'm like, that's a problem."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7289.31",
      "endTime": "7291.71",
      "body": "Okay. But I mean yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7291.71",
      "endTime": "7292.8296",
      "body": "No. I'm not disagreeing."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7292.8296",
      "endTime": "7294.4297",
      "body": "Yeah. That's gotta go away."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7294.4297",
      "endTime": "7299.23",
      "body": "The bet the negative body language sucks. Yes. But like, if I saw someone who was like"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7299.31",
      "endTime": "7299.9497",
      "body": "use it in right way."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7299.9497",
      "endTime": "7306.595",
      "body": "If someone was like ripping piss and came to the bench and like slammed their stick. Yeah. I mean, like, I don't know. That doesn't bother me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7306.595",
      "endTime": "7316.115",
      "body": "It doesn't bother me either. As long as you use it in the right way. Like, don't, like, bomb your teammate. Well, Max said he yelled across the bench a couple times. But for the most part, it sounds like he keeps his head, which is really great."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7316.16",
      "endTime": "7316.64",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7316.64",
      "endTime": "7317.36",
      "body": "You know, that's still"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7317.68",
      "endTime": "7319.3604",
      "body": "older brother lose his mind is what he said."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7319.3604",
      "endTime": "7321.7603",
      "body": "Pretty much. Said that that was Zam losing his mind?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7321.7603",
      "endTime": "7322.4004",
      "body": "What? That was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7322.4004",
      "endTime": "7323.68",
      "body": "Zam Zam was losing his mind?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7323.68",
      "endTime": "7324.56",
      "body": "Yeah. The older one. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7324.56",
      "endTime": "7325.92",
      "body": "Jesus. I'm telling you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7325.92",
      "endTime": "7328.72",
      "body": "Yeah. So that's how he's learned to keep it a little more composed."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7328.96",
      "endTime": "7332.8745",
      "body": "What's crazy is that three brothers, three different paths."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7333.675",
      "endTime": "7336.0747",
      "body": "Pretty Well, well, the younger one is also at NTG."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7336.0747",
      "endTime": "7339.9946",
      "body": "The younger one is a very similar, but I think the younger one went to play juniors one year."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "7339.9946",
      "endTime": "7340.3945",
      "body": "Think."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7340.795",
      "endTime": "7343.5947",
      "body": "I wanna say Victor went somewhere one year"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7343.835",
      "endTime": "7344.795",
      "body": "Or his dad's coaching?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7345.4497",
      "endTime": "7352.6494",
      "body": "So his dad His coaching. So his dad was an assistant at Minnesota Duluth. Yes. And now he's an assistant coach with the Blackhawks. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7353.29",
      "endTime": "7353.53",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7353.53",
      "endTime": "7354.3296",
      "body": "Right. Right. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7354.3296",
      "endTime": "7365.835",
      "body": "So but so so I think they all three had and I meant to ask it, we don't have time. But I'm pretty sure all three similar. I think Victor and Max are similar, the middle"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7365.835",
      "endTime": "7365.995",
      "body": "and"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7365.995",
      "endTime": "7366.475",
      "body": "the younger."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7366.475",
      "endTime": "7366.955",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7367.355",
      "endTime": "7375.34",
      "body": "But I wanna say that I I I could be wrong, but I don't think Max played juniors anywhere. I think he went right right from high school to to NTDP."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7375.34",
      "endTime": "7379.0996",
      "body": "Yeah. But NTDP, like, don't they they they play junior schedule. No?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7379.1",
      "endTime": "7382.4595",
      "body": "It's the USHL. Yeah. So they both run the same league."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7382.46",
      "endTime": "7383.6597",
      "body": "Yeah. But that's not junior."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7383.98",
      "endTime": "7386.455",
      "body": "It is juniors, but it's they didn't have the same path."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7386.455",
      "endTime": "7389.6553",
      "body": "Yeah. I know. Fair enough. The NTTP is definitely, you know, a a"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7389.895",
      "endTime": "7390.615",
      "body": "It's the same league."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7390.775",
      "endTime": "7391.735",
      "body": "Different animal."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7391.735",
      "endTime": "7398.455",
      "body": "Yes. Same league. Well and right. And the NTTP is is part of is part of the USHL. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7399.335",
      "endTime": "7407.19",
      "body": "But three kid three different kids, three different paths, essentially. But you're right. Victor and and Max are similar Yeah. I think. Right?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7407.19",
      "endTime": "7416.225",
      "body": "Zam had a different path. But I thought that was pretty cool because we always say how how all paths are different. Yeah. Right now, kid has the same path for the most part. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7416.225",
      "endTime": "7424.0654",
      "body": "Obviously, I'm sure there could be some overlap. But I mean, you know, three kids from the same household with three different paths. You know, it's So I thought it was pretty cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7424.0654",
      "endTime": "7432.18",
      "body": "It made me think of a stupid and a stupid is not the right word, but a book we used to I used to read to my kids. It was like a Sesame Street book"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7432.42",
      "endTime": "7432.66",
      "body": "Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7432.66",
      "endTime": "7436.02",
      "body": "And was just talking about people are the same but they're different."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7436.02",
      "endTime": "7436.34",
      "body": "Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7436.34",
      "endTime": "7442.8047",
      "body": "You know, we all have noses, but none of our noses look the same. You know? You know what I mean? Like Yes. We all have whatever."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7442.8047",
      "endTime": "7460.77",
      "body": "So but like, you know, when talking about the like the macro versus the micro Yeah. You know, macro speaking, there's a lot of similar paths. But it like, when you start looking at like the the more nuance and the details of it and how one goes to one versus the other and this and that, like, yeah, there's there's, you know, a lot of different paths. No doubt."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7460.77",
      "endTime": "7462.1304",
      "body": "Yeah. Now and now that I'm looking"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7462.1304",
      "endTime": "7466.37",
      "body": "it up, I wanna say I think Max and I think Max and Victor had very similar paths."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7466.815",
      "endTime": "7472.7344",
      "body": "Yeah. You know? Which is rare. Let me see. I wanna see Max."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7473.9346",
      "endTime": "7479.295",
      "body": "High school. Here's high school. No. They're very similar. Wow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7479.295",
      "endTime": "7482.8604",
      "body": "Yeah. They're similar. They're they're very similar. No. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7482.8604",
      "endTime": "7486.14",
      "body": "I think they both went from high school right to NTDP."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7486.14",
      "endTime": "7488.62",
      "body": "So they didn't finish high school at Hermitown. No."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7488.8604",
      "endTime": "7493.74",
      "body": "No. It doesn't seem like that. Yeah. Which listen, which his grandfather was not happy with."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7494.225",
      "endTime": "7496.225",
      "body": "Yeah. But then learned after going to see a"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7496.225",
      "endTime": "7499.185",
      "body": "game Holy like shit. Right. These kids are legit. Yeah. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7499.185",
      "endTime": "7502.145",
      "body": "Well, he just didn't know. Right? I mean, you don't know what you don't know until you know it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "7502.145",
      "endTime": "7502.8647",
      "body": "That's right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7503.185",
      "endTime": "7505.8247",
      "body": "But, yeah, I'm sure his grandfather was pumped after that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7505.8247",
      "endTime": "7506.705",
      "body": "I'm sure. You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7506.705",
      "endTime": "7508.78",
      "body": "So, yeah, they did they did have similar paths."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7508.78",
      "endTime": "7512.54",
      "body": "Oh, and the fact that him and his brother both got drafted to the same organization with the"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7512.54",
      "endTime": "7517.9",
      "body": "same exact I didn't know that. That was cool, man. That was really cool. I did not know that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7517.9",
      "endTime": "7518.7",
      "body": "Yeah. That's crazy."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7518.7",
      "endTime": "7525.055",
      "body": "Yeah. That was neat. Alright. So so listen, You know, not every single time do people have different paths, but most of"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7525.055",
      "endTime": "7525.935",
      "body": "the time they have different paths."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7525.935",
      "endTime": "7528.655",
      "body": "But it seems like Victor and Max had a similar path."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7528.655",
      "endTime": "7528.815",
      "body": "You know"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "7528.815",
      "endTime": "7528.975",
      "body": "what I"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7528.975",
      "endTime": "7533.615",
      "body": "wanted to ask him? I wanted to ask him, like, how like because surely there's families that have done this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "7533.68",
      "endTime": "7534.24",
      "body": "Mhmm."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7534.24",
      "endTime": "7551.975",
      "body": "But like, you know, any crazy hockey families that have like you had mentioned, like moved to Minnesota for like high school hockey. And and and what what is thought of people that move in from other states just to play Minnesota high school hockey? Because that's gotta be a strategy that people have tried."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7551.975",
      "endTime": "7561.34",
      "body": "Listen. I'm sure people have done it. It's funny. I knew we knew somebody years ago who actually left Minnesota and came to Connecticut years ago."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7561.42",
      "endTime": "7561.9",
      "body": "Interesting."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7561.9",
      "endTime": "7570.46",
      "body": "And that always made me scratch my head. Like, why would you leave that environment? You know? That was an odd thing, I thought. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7570.46",
      "endTime": "7574.22",
      "body": "That was surprising. The only person I've ever heard of leaving Minnesota to come to, like, the Northeast."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7574.4053",
      "endTime": "7574.725",
      "body": "Well"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7574.8853",
      "endTime": "7575.845",
      "body": "Like, people wanted to have"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7575.845",
      "endTime": "7577.605",
      "body": "a it wasn't because of work?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7578.245",
      "endTime": "7581.605",
      "body": "They said it was because of work. But you don't"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7581.605",
      "endTime": "7586.645",
      "body": "you don't think it was because of work? Questionable. Okay. I don't know."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7586.645",
      "endTime": "7589.285",
      "body": "Listen. Whatever. You know what I mean?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7589.285",
      "endTime": "7599.63",
      "body": "Maybe the maybe one of the family members is a fugitive. I don't know. Possibly. I suppose. You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7599.63",
      "endTime": "7600.99",
      "body": "But no, man. That was a that was"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7600.99",
      "endTime": "7602.9453",
      "body": "a very that was a very cool"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7602.9453",
      "endTime": "7603.185",
      "body": "Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7603.185",
      "endTime": "7604.225",
      "body": "I thoroughly enjoyed that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "7604.225",
      "endTime": "7604.465",
      "body": "Yeah. No."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7604.465",
      "endTime": "7607.3447",
      "body": "I I hope you guys did too because that was that was cool."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7607.345",
      "endTime": "7609.105",
      "body": "Yeah, man. I hope you guys learned a ton."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7609.345",
      "endTime": "7609.905",
      "body": "You know?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7609.9053",
      "endTime": "7614.3853",
      "body": "So Yeah. Well, I don't know. Don't have much else to kinda, like, to report since Otto's out of town."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7614.3853",
      "endTime": "7621.3",
      "body": "No. I hear you. It's listen. It's it's the summer and things are slow. Oh, speaking of slow or slower, you know, people keep asking me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7621.3",
      "endTime": "7629.7",
      "body": "They're like, oh, are you are you guys recording? Are you guys doing, like, shows for the summer? Because, like, is it getting slow? I'm like, slow. I feel like we've been busier than we ever have been."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7629.7",
      "endTime": "7632.5146",
      "body": "Yeah. We definitely busy time. Not slow at all."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7632.5146",
      "endTime": "7634.435",
      "body": "No. I I don't think we've ever been busier."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7634.435",
      "endTime": "7652.1904",
      "body": "No. So in speaking of being busy, next up is, obviously, we're gonna be releasing another episode next week. But then Yes. So we've got this week, and then the following, and then right after that next episode, we're gonna have the Moe's Smile event. Yes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7652.1904",
      "endTime": "7661.5054",
      "body": "So then we'll have a lot of content to go through and we'll release a bunch of stuff after that event. Yes. You know, with with everyone. So yeah, we got some some good stuff coming up."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7661.5054",
      "endTime": "7666.065",
      "body": "Try to go live a couple times. Yeah. Right? From from the event. That should be great."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7666.065",
      "endTime": "7682.29",
      "body": "Know. Again, please go to our our our Instagram and check out the donation page that's there. It's all for Memorial Sloan Kettering. For those of who don't know, MSK is a huge big time cancer hospital in the area. Is MSK nationwide or is it just in"
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      "speaker": "Max",
      "startTime": "7682.29",
      "endTime": "7682.85",
      "body": "our area?"
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "That's a great question."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "body": "I'm not sure what"
    },
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      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7684.45",
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      "body": "Yeah. The answer"
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    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7685.33",
      "endTime": "7705.545",
      "body": "Anyway, so for those of you don't know, MSK, Memorial Sloan Kettering is a major, major cancer hospital in our area. And this one is for childhood cancer. And Moe, who the event is named after, was a player for Larry Robbins. And, obviously, a tragic thing happened to him. And his parents are gonna be at the event, and his parents support the event."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "speaker": "Scott",
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      "body": "Yeah. No, listen, we all know that the hockey community is a giving and caring community."
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      "speaker": "Max",
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7775.05",
      "endTime": "7778.785",
      "body": "Yep. That's that's another one. That's another one."
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      "speaker": "Jamie",
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    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7780.225",
      "endTime": "7784.465",
      "body": "one. 75 coming up shortly. Alright."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Jamie",
      "startTime": "7784.465",
      "endTime": "7790.465",
      "body": "Alright, everybody. Enjoy. Hope you guys had a really nice fourth of July weekend. And we will see you on the next one."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Scott",
      "startTime": "7791.38",
      "endTime": "7792.42",
      "body": "Later. See you."
    }
  ]
}