What happens when seasoned leaders and rising voices sit down as peers, not just to teach but learn from each other? In this special “living room” edition of The Missional Leader, Rob is joined by two trailblazing friends and young leaders: Charlee Tchividjian, a passionate founder radically reshaping foster care prevention, and André Ito Gonçalves, a former Netflix executive turned global church planter and marketing leader. Together with these young leaders, Rob reflects on his experience in launching the podcast and how he values continuous learning from emerging nextgen voices.
Charlee shares her journey from a difficult, faith-shaping upbringing to founding EMA.org, a flourishing nonprofit helping thousands of at-risk moms stay with their children, reflecting on how pain, risk, and Spirit-led conviction formed her leadership. Andre unpacks “polycentric leadership” with Rob, a fluid multi-vocational approach to calling, and how mentorship across ages can unlock personal purpose and Kingdom impact. Rob reflects on the “ikigai” framework, and how leaders can discern their unique calling at the intersection of passion, skill, need, and sustainability in a rapidly-changing world.
Whether you’re mentoring or being mentored, building something new or stewarding something established, this episode offers practical insight and honest encouragement for leaders who believe the future is built together - across generations.
Episode Guide: Access a resource designed to help you reflect and learn from this episode conversation!
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Ikigai Framework: What Do I Do With My Life?
Polycentric Leadership Gen Alpha Research: A Worldwide Look at the Most Connected & Curious Generation
EMA (Every Mother’s Advocate)
— Ministry founded by Charlee Tchividjian to support mothers at risk of losing custody.
Dunamis Movement / Zion Church | Dunamis Movement
— Brazilian-based movement and church led by Teo Hayashi.
The Send— Global missions movement referenced in context of Brazilian stadium events.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 7 Months, 1.2 Million Downloads: A Surprising Milestone
02:17 Charlee’s Wild-Child Story and Africa Turning Point
05:00 Every Mother’s Advocate: Preventing Foster Care Crisis
07:43 From Netflix to Ministry: André’s Polycentric Leadership Journey
12:45 Building a Global, Intergenerational Podcast Community
15:13 Behind the Mic: Audience Stories of Transformation
18:02 Deep Dives vs. Longform: The Show’s Conversation Format
20:51 Authenticity & Completion Rates: Podcast’s Unusual Success
24:49 Most Impactful Episodes: Founder Stories and Legacy
27:16 Bob’s Faith and the Power of Fresh Anointing
29:35 Risk, Innovation, and Failures: Lessons from YouVersion
33:04 Real-Time Application: Leadership Through Failure
34:42 Dunamis Movement & The Send: Mobilizing Missions at Scale
37:41 Discipleship Deep Dive: Filling the Global Leadership Vacuum
39:32 The Ikigai Model: Finding Purpose in Calling
46:49 Serving to Find Vision: Breaking the Calling Paralysis
47:54 The Real Meaning of Ministry: Beyond the Pulpit
51:42 Calling and Purpose: Not Just for the “Elite”
53:34 Avoiding Comparison: Courage for Individual Vocations
56:25 Closing: Join the Community & What’s Next for Season 2
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